[00:08] <xixor> Howdy ya'll..  Trying to update my system with muon, it is failing saying that the proper authentication was not provided, but it never pops up the dialog asking for the admin/root password.  Anyone know whats up?
[00:27] <xixor> Trying to teach my gf how to use Kubuntu.  KDE is pretty easy.  Getting into her session is difficult.  Oh, I'm logged in, go to Kmenu->create session… click on the "Unused" thingy, ok, now login.  Oh, you're already logged in, hit cntrl+shift+F8
[00:58] <xixor> Is there a way to get the picture in the user account profiles to show up on the lightdm login screen?
[01:02] <tsimpson> xixor: cp ~/.face.icon ~/.face
[01:03] <heathjs> so... webgl works in firefox and google-chrome... not chromium...
[01:03] <heathjs> but kde doesn't detect opengl...
[01:03] <heathjs> thus no desktop effects...
[01:03] <heathjs> so confuuused
[02:19] <doctorpepper> hi guys!!
[04:58] <personal> how difficult is it to install printer drivers in kubuntu
[05:09] <datruth> is there away to screen my screen brightness I don't think its getting as bright as it could
[05:23] <personal> anybody say anything in here?
[05:25] <personal> welcome to boredom headquarters
[05:28] <personal> welcome to boredom headquarters anyone talking?
[05:40] <EmmEight> what is the command to open up the network manager
[09:34] <shadeslayer> ohai people
[09:34] <shadeslayer> who wants to QA some firefox packages which have KDE integration?
[10:58] <spike_sfh> hi all
[11:04] <timeship> how can i use it?
[11:05] <timeship> OK, I see
[12:04] <heliocastro> Morning
[12:04] <heliocastro> Anyone knows if ksshaskpass is working ?
[12:04] <Tm_T> morning
[12:04] <simplew> kubuntu was patched to change the default text editor to kate (instead kwrite)?
[12:04] <heliocastro> It seens doesn't matter if you put in env, it never execs it with ssh-add
[12:05] <Tm_T> simplew: hm?
[12:05] <simplew> Tm_T: im trying to check if this was changed upstream of if was a kubuntu change
[12:06] <Tm_T> simplew: I don't remember such change being made on either
[12:07] <Tm_T> but then, I'm unsure what's default these days anyway /:
[12:07] <simplew> Tm_T: now its kate thats the default editor instead kwrite
[12:07] <Tm_T> simplew: how you check what is default?
[12:07] <simplew> Tm_T: create a new user
[12:08] <Tm_T> simplew: considering those things tend to change heavily based on the order of packages being installed
[12:08] <simplew> Tm_T: hu???
[12:09] <Tm_T> simplew: if you install wine, you might end up having "notepad" as your text editor
[12:09] <Tm_T> no I'm not kidding /:
[12:09] <simplew> yofel_: could you please help clarifying if the default text editor change to kate is a kubuntu change or if is an upstream change?
[12:10] <simplew> Tm_T: not really
[12:10] <Tm_T> simplew: this has happened me way too many times its not even funny anymore (ok, it is in its own way)
[12:11] <simplew> Tm_T: that never happened to me
[12:11] <yofel_> we traditionally used kate by default and IIRC didn't even ship kwrite. The reason it wasn't the default lately was due to a patch that went missing. It's back now so kate should be the default again
[12:11] <simplew> yofel: which patch is that?
[12:13] <yofel> kate-4.9.4/debian/patches/kubuntu_kate_initial_preference.patch
[12:13] <Tm_T> heliocastro: is kdsshaskpass your sshaskpass provider per dpkg-alternatives?
[12:15] <simplew> yofel: i was expcting for a kdelibs patch... :/
[12:15] <heliocastro> humm, no, but i set the script direct on autostart
[12:15] <heliocastro> Ohh, new kde
[12:15] <yofel> simplew: it was in kdesdk before. The patch got lost when kdesdk was split and kate got its own package
[12:17] <simplew> yofel: could you provide the url for that patch, cant find it
[12:17] <heliocastro> Tm_T: Yes, it is
[12:19] <yofel> simplew: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kate/view/head:/debian/patches/kubuntu_kate_initial_preference.patch
[12:20] <simplew> yofel: oh its the initalpreferences set, thanks :)
[12:21] <simplew> yofel: but if kde uses kwrite as default text editor why kubuntu changes it to kate?
[12:22] <Tm_T> ...because we don't ship both in default install?
[12:22]  * Tm_T goes check manifest file
[12:23] <simplew> by the way in kate.desktop apepars the same entry twice, InitialPreference=9   and in last last: InitialPreference=8
[12:23] <Tm_T> yup, kwrite isn't on default install
[12:28] <simplew> yofel: when i do 'bzr co ubuntu:kate'  the source files appear already patched?
[12:28] <Tm_T> heliocastro: hmm, I just installed ksshaskpass, didn't do any changes and things are already asking it, so looks like it is working here
[12:28] <heliocastro> Tm_T: I forgot to mention, i don'e use a standard single id_dsa
[12:29] <Tm_T> ah
[12:29] <heliocastro> I use three different named dsas
[12:29] <yofel> simplew: hum, that warrants investigation then
[12:29] <heliocastro> before fedora kde was handling well
[12:29] <heliocastro> Tm_T: I saw that kubuntu kde is handling only id_dsa
[12:29] <Tm_T> heliocastro: interesting, I wonder what makes the difference
[12:29] <heliocastro> That's the reason my config imported is not working
[12:30]  * yofel use id_rsa
[12:30] <yofel> oh, ksshaskpass
[12:30] <yofel> nvm me
[12:31] <heliocastro> yofel: If you have one single is fine
[12:31] <heliocastro> but i have the necessity of have three
[12:33] <yofel> ah, I have an id_rsa and id_dsa and usually authentiy to the ssh-agent in konsole and later forget about it
[12:33] <simplew> yofel: seams the fetched source fiels are really patched...
[12:34] <heliocastro> Tm_T: ssh-add is even not working exportin SSH_ASKPASS
[12:34] <heliocastro> only command line
[12:34] <yofel> simplew: yeah, that's the default for dpkg-source at least. I'm not sure how the UDD branches work here
[12:35] <heliocastro> Tm_T: Interestewing behavior comparison, a single ssh-add command, without any input, ask all keys
[12:35] <heliocastro> maybe fedora has a patch on it
[12:36] <simplew> yofel: but i dont get why was that patch created since kate.deskto already have InitialPreference=9
[12:36] <yofel> simplew: we're talking about that in -devel right now. I don't get it either
[12:37] <simplew> i have just joined
[12:39] <simplew> yofel: if you do a change in ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list you need to logout to changes take effect?
[12:39] <yofel> no idea
[12:40] <simplew> brb
[12:50] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[12:55] <susundberg> Hi BluesKaj
[12:58] <BluesKaj> hi susundberg
[15:31] <_dns__> Libreoffice is extremely ugly in KDE
[15:31] <_dns__> does anyone know how to tweak this ?
[15:39] <phoenix_firebrd> hello everyone
[15:39] <phoenix_firebrd> _dns__: can you post a snapshot of libreoffice?
[16:42] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: are you there?
[16:45] <yofel> phoenix_firebrd: more or less, what's up?
[16:45] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=kdeplasma-addons.git&a=commit&h=7e6922616963b3b0d571699f64c79ac53c08da8d
[16:46] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=kdeplasma-addons.git&a=commit&h=b4d257bcf717d1b9f8b343ff4211e8b1d083a719
[16:46] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: the patch cannot make it to 4.9.4, so can you backport?
[16:46] <yofel> phoenix_firebrd: will do
[16:47] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: thank you
[16:50] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[16:51] <yofel> phoenix_firebrd: added, will be in our 4.9.4 updates
[16:51] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: cool
[16:51] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: thank you
[17:24] <Katbuntu> hi
[17:39] <phoenix_firebrd> Katbuntu: hi
[17:39] <Katbuntu> Hi phoenix_firebrd
[19:20] <KehateSensei> Hey all... has anyone ever gotten a short read error while partitioning and formating ext filesystems in gParted? I can do Fat, NTFS but not linux supported filesystems
[19:34] <Guest2695> como puedo cambiar el nick??
[19:36] <nuevo_nick> entra "/nick nuevo_nick"
[19:49] <Guest2695>  /nick nuevo_deyna
[19:50] <Guest2695>  "/nick nuevo_deyna"
[19:50] <Guest2695>  "/deyna_nick"
[19:50] <Guest2695> ....
[21:25] <BarkingFish> Evening all.  Anyone know in the recent batch of KDE updates about 48h back, whether pulseaudio was updated?  It's not capturing correctly on my system now, and I have to figure out why.
[22:12] <Catbuntu> Hi
[22:12] <Catbuntu> Hi
[22:12] <rork> hello
[22:45] <Doyle> yo.
[22:45] <Doyle> instead of exiting a script, is there a way to keep it running?
[22:45] <Doyle> maybe an &
[22:46] <Doyle> while calling it with service
[22:46] <yofel> &, nohup or start-stop-daemon can be used to keep something running in the background
[22:47] <yofel> service? you mean an init script? If it's supposed to keep running there has to be something that does keep running by itself
[22:47] <Doyle> ya. I made a test service to configure nagios against
[22:47] <yofel> you could then make a service config in /etc/init/ to manage it
[22:48] <Doyle> It writes teh start/stop logs fine, but the processes doesn't stay alive
[22:49] <Doyle> ahh.. so I just need seomthing like "nohup touch dog.txt"
[22:49] <Doyle> in the script
[22:51] <Doyle> or, would a "nohup echo 'poo' >> /dev/null" be better?
[22:53] <yofel> nah, I misunderstood the question. They'll help to prevent it being killed if the shell vanishes. But not prevent the application from terminating itself
[22:53] <yofel> does it keep running if you run it in the foreground?
[22:54] <Doyle> nope
[22:55] <yofel> then you'll have to work that out first
[22:57] <Doyle> http://pastebin.com/aD1mfZYR
[22:57] <Doyle> it's saved as /etc/init.d/fearservice
[22:57] <Doyle> it all works... but it doesn't stay alive. I know the answers going to be simple