| Ascavasaion | Hello there... HOw do I get the arrows top and bottom of scrollbars in Lubuntu? I do not liek the way they are now. thank you. | 10:03 |
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| Ascavasaion | Do I hve to disable overlay scrollbars? | 10:04 |
| Ascavasaion | Is this what I should be doing - http://askubuntu.com/questions/34214/how-do-i-disable-overlay-scrollbars | 10:06 |
| Ascavasaion | Okay, that never worked. any other ideas? | 10:11 |
| Ascavasaion | X-chat has the correct scrollbars, but Document Viewer, etc do not. | 10:11 |
| Ascavasaion | Abiword does not have the correct scrollbars, but Gnumetric does. | 10:13 |
| Ascavasaion | Gnumetric does not. | 10:14 |
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| Travis | Good morning. | 12:40 |
| Aspi | Yo. Quick and easy: Are Linux drivers processor architecture specific? IE. will a x86 driver cease to work on ARM architecture? | 13:03 |
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| lessshaste | I just installed dropbox from the .deb that dropbox provides.. how do I actually start it and get an icon showing it is working? | 13:35 |
| clyphox | just run it, it'll start automatically on login in future | 13:39 |
| clyphox | there will be a notifcation icon in the normal notifcation area | 13:40 |
| synned | ? | 16:48 |
| synned | i need some help here with the themes | 16:48 |
| synned | can anyone help?? | 16:49 |
| fahim | Hi | 18:10 |
| fahim | I'm interested to implement Lubuntu on corporate environment. So, it is possible to do that? Will there be any other problems with file manager or any thing else? | 18:11 |
| holstein | fahim: try it live... its stable, though learning the environment, or locking it down could prove challenging | 18:12 |
| fahim | Thanks holstein for your reply. I've used lubuntu and I love it, but the fact is that I've used that for personal use. Now I need experts advice that is it ready for corporate environment? | 18:15 |
| holstein | fahim: it'll be the same as it is for you | 18:15 |
| TheLordOfTime | define "ready for corporate environment" | 18:15 |
| TheLordOfTime | actually depending on the needs of the organization, you may need either a different derivative or something else | 18:16 |
| TheLordOfTime | just saying :P\ | 18:16 |
| holstein | fahim: there is no "corporate" version.. but it'll be the same version you are using.. | 18:16 |
| TheLordOfTime | although i've put 4 organizations to Ubuntu LInux so... :P | 18:16 |
| TheLordOfTime | s/Ubuntu/?buntu/ | 18:16 |
| holstein | would i use it? sure.. i would lock it down and make it work.. | 18:16 |
| fahim | If you guys tell me that it's enough for corporate environment, then I'll be relieved. I know there is no corporate edition. I want to implement lubuntu on a bank with almost 8000 PC and I want to give them same DE. So that it'll be easier for them to learn. | 18:17 |
| holstein | fahim: "enough" is a matter of opinion, and depends on the case, as TheLordOfTime is suggesting | 18:18 |
| TheLordOfTime | holstein, you havent stated what you're moving from, what your needs are, etc. | 18:18 |
| TheLordOfTime | so how can we give you any type of advice? | 18:18 |
| TheLordOfTime | besides, we're all biased towards Ubuntu or Ubuntu-variant of choice | 18:19 |
| holstein | fahim: you can implement it where ever, and the software is what it is.. its all open which could prove more helpful | 18:19 |
| fahim | Yes. TheLordofTime thanks for your reply. I'm migrating from windows XP. | 18:19 |
| holstein | fahim: do i think i could implement *buntu for that task? sure... would i? certainly, if i felt it met the needs of the users | 18:19 |
| TheLordOfTime | i think you need to evaluate what the users' needs are software-wise | 18:20 |
| TheLordOfTime | before making the leap to LInux | 18:20 |
| holstein | yup.. if they need/want microsoft word for example.. or if they currently use it. that alone could be a frustration | 18:21 |
| holstein | if you came to a bank that was just opening and setup a system for them, they would just use it, and it would all work... no migration needed | 18:21 |
| holstein | its the migration and the re-learning that you need to consider | 18:22 |
| holstein | *buntu is quite capable of most any task you need.. its the users that must be considered | 18:22 |
| fahim | So, TheLordofTime I'm you have great experience on Linux migration. They are interested for a good Linux dist. with a fast DE. | 18:22 |
| holstein | "good" is a matter of opinion | 18:23 |
| fahim | Yes. holstein that's correct. | 18:23 |
| holstein | you should go back and ask them to define "good".. what exactly do they need? what software... | 18:23 |
| holstein | LXDE is a nice choice since is kind of windows like in layout | 18:24 |
| holstein | im about to do an install at a school with LXDE | 18:24 |
| TheLordOfTime | fahim, go ask them what the specific needs are. | 18:24 |
| TheLordOfTime | fahim, software requirements, etc. | 18:24 |
| TheLordOfTime | can't give you valid info without that | 18:24 |
| TheLordOfTime | but note: i only deploy Linux in organizations when they say to, most of the time I end up deploying Windows there | 18:25 |
| fahim | TheLordofTime: why Windows? | 18:25 |
| holstein | yeah... its a great way to fail if you force it on them.. even though its usually the easiest as far as maintenance to go linux, they might want/prefer windows | 18:25 |
| TheLordOfTime | fahim, because the organization's needs demanded it | 18:26 |
| TheLordOfTime | fahim, i work as a third-party technician for those organizations, for largescale deployments on systems, i get called in to support | 18:27 |
| TheLordOfTime | most organizations do the research and say they need Windows, but these're specialized organizations who don't have software to do their needs that is FOSS or built for Linux, so... | 18:27 |
| TheLordOfTime | the point is: each organization has different needs. | 18:27 |
| TheLordOfTime | Linux may or may not fit those needs accordingly | 18:27 |
| fahim | I see!!! They want to save money. that's why they want Linux. | 18:28 |
| holstein | or, they are just "married" to it and might not want to transistion or migrate.. or trust the FOSS alternatives | 18:28 |
| TheLordOfTime | mhm | 18:28 |
| TheLordOfTime | sometimes its saving money, sometimes its software needs, but it depends on each organization | 18:28 |
| TheLordOfTime | migration windows -> linux is hard for organizations | 18:28 |
| TheLordOfTime | even though they save by using linux, retraining users is hard | 18:28 |
| TheLordOfTime | retraining admins is even harder. | 18:28 |
| holstein | fahim: but, if they have to pay someone to re-train them to use linux.. or if they dont like it, and need to get new systems.. could be the total cost is less just staying with XP.. not that i wouldnt try migrating | 18:28 |
| fahim | in Bangladesh we are going to face copyright restrictions in near future, that's why we are thinking about switching to Linux. previously we didn't pay for windows!!! | 18:31 |
| holstein | you had microsoft give you a bunch of licenses? | 18:32 |
| TheLordOfTime | um... | 18:34 |
| TheLordOfTime | i think he means piracy | 18:34 |
| fahim | Yes. That bank have give a huge amount of money for 8000 PC within 2-3 months | 18:34 |
| holstein | i mean, if they arent going to pay for anything, then id say a "free" choice is the only way to go then... | 18:35 |
| fahim | Yes, as an LDC country we weren't forced to buy a licensed software by TRIPS agreement with WTO. | 18:35 |
| fahim | But that's going to end in near future. | 18:35 |
| holstein | im not following.. you mean, you pirated it? and found a loophole where you cannot be prosecuted? | 18:36 |
| TheLordOfTime | i think this discussion is going offtopic... | 18:37 |
| fahim | I understand this info may be horrible to you. Please visit this link for better understanding.http://www.twnside.org.sg/title2/twninfo317.htm | 18:38 |
| fahim | sorry for the offtopic | 18:38 |
| TheLordOfTime | i meant about the discussion of whether you found a loophole or not. | 18:40 |
| TheLordOfTime | in any case... | 18:40 |
| TheLordOfTime | the original statement still stands: if the needs do not fit LInux, you may need to find some alternative that is legal. | 18:41 |
| holstein | yeah.. i thought better of it when i asked.. i dont need to know that.. we can help with an specific question about the install | 18:41 |
| TheLordOfTime | or adapt to change your needs to work with linux. | 18:41 |
| TheLordOfTime | otherwise... | 18:41 |
| * TheLordOfTime returns to stabbing php5's code | 18:41 | |
| fahim | Thanks guys for your help. | 18:42 |
| lesshaste | hi | 18:51 |
| lesshaste | I am running lubuntu desktop but whenever I run anything I get warnings.. For example emacs gives me | 18:51 |
| lesshaste | ** (emacs:25391): WARNING **: Invalid borders specified for theme pixmap: | 18:51 |
| lesshaste | /usr/share/themes/Lubuntu-default/gtk-2.0/images/null.png, | 18:51 |
| lesshaste | borders don't fit within the image | 18:51 |
| lesshaste | is there a lubuntu version of emacs I should be using? | 18:51 |
| nortti | I'm having a problem with oracle virtualbox. when I try to start a irtual machine I get error about kernel driver for virtualbox missing and it prompts me to run /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup as root but that file doesn't exist | 18:56 |
| DasEi | nortti: rather a #vbox question, but I take it (as far as channel is calm) .. headers installed ? | 18:59 |
| DasEi | !headers | 18:59 |
| ubottu | To install the Linux (kernel) headers, open a terminal and: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) To install headers for libraries, you need the accompanying -dev packages | 18:59 |
| DasEi | nortti: then become root in terminal (sudo -s) and just enter /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup | 19:00 |
| DasEi | using dkms can save you a lot of hassle (if for any reason not by default) , ongoing ksplice is worth a look, but let's first fix hat issue | 19:01 |
| nortti | ok | 19:01 |
| DasEi | are the modules being build now ? | 19:02 |
| nortti | no | 19:02 |
| nortti | headers were already installed | 19:02 |
| nortti | dkms is also installed | 19:02 |
| DasEi | what is the reply to /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup ? | 19:02 |
| nortti | /bin/mksh: /etc/init.d/vboxdrv: not found | 19:03 |
| DasEi | /bin/mksh ?? that's bsd, isn't it ?? | 19:05 |
| DasEi | nortti: ^ | 19:05 |
| nortti | no | 19:05 |
| DasEi | nortti: which terminal then ? lx-terminal ? | 19:06 |
| nortti | xterm | 19:06 |
| nortti | I installed mksh myself and set it as my default shell | 19:06 |
| DasEi | nortti: ose or the oracle version ? | 19:07 |
| nortti | the one in package virtualbox which I think is oracle | 19:07 |
| DasEi | nortti: per default there is only the ose in repos, unless you either get it directly from oracle or set up an additional repo | 19:08 |
| nortti | ok. should ose one call itself oracle virtualbox? | 19:09 |
| DasEi | virtualbox-ose | 19:09 |
| DasEi | sudo dpkg-reconfigure virtualbox-ose | 19:09 |
| nortti | ``This is a dummy transitional package for virtualbox and can be | 19:10 |
| nortti | safely removed after the installation is complete.'' | 19:10 |
| DasEi | nortti: per default there is only the ose-version in repos, unless you either get it directly from oracle or set up an additional repo (which then is called just virtualbox) | 19:10 |
| DasEi | sudo dpkg-reconfigure virtualbox | 19:11 |
| nortti | still doesn't work | 19:11 |
| DasEi | nortti: be more specific about outputs | 19:12 |
| nortti | DasEi: http://paste.dy.fi/sx1/plain | 19:15 |
| holstein | lesshaste: did you install from the repos? | 19:15 |
| lesshaste | holstein, yes | 19:16 |
| lesshaste | holstein, although it's worth saying that I installed ubuntu and then lubuntu-desktop | 19:16 |
| DasEi | nortti: before wondering about shell (as root) : apt-get -f install && apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get install virtualbox* | 19:17 |
| holstein | lesshaste: whast the issue? is it not starting? is that not in the terminal? | 19:17 |
| lesshaste | holstein, is starts but I get lots of warnings in the terminal | 19:18 |
| holstein | nortti: i installed virtualbox-dkms the other day after i broke virtualbox | 19:18 |
| DasEi | holstein: /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup << cmd not found is the issue | 19:18 |
| holstein | nortti: i restarted to get the module to load | 19:18 |
| holstein | DasEi: yup.. i didnt find that either | 19:18 |
| holstein | DasEi: i just installed virtualbox-dkms and rebooted | 19:18 |
| * DasEi using repo 4.... here all fine | 19:19 | |
| holstein | i tried to install the newer one from the oracle site.. i went back to the repo one | 19:19 |
| DasEi | so the dkms then, well last above cmd, nortti | 19:19 |
| nortti | ok | 19:19 |
| DasEi | nortti: sudo apt-get install virtualbox* | 19:19 |
| holstein | lesshaste: unless it looks bad or the warnings seem dangerous, i wouldnt worry about it.. you can pastebin the whole thing if you are concerned | 19:21 |
| DasEi | virtualbox-dkms installed ? sudo modprobe -a | 19:21 |
| lesshaste | holstein, it's just very ugly :) | 19:21 |
| lesshaste | http://askubuntu.com/questions/225093/emacs-gives-warnings-in-lubuntu | 19:21 |
| DasEi | nortti: solved ? | 19:25 |
| nortti | no | 19:27 |
| holstein | lesshaste: i just launched it here in openbox on 12.04.. no errors | 19:27 |
| holstein | lesshaste: i think its probably just as "ugly" as you were mentioning... | 19:27 |
| DasEi | nortti: more precise ? the vbox-dkms-package installed ? | 19:28 |
| holstein | nortti: i would purge it all and start over... it was tricky for me the other day.. i was in the card and didnt have internet fast enough to get much help | 19:28 |
| nortti | DasEi: yes | 19:30 |
| DasEi | nortti: before wondering about shell (as root) : apt-get -f install && apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get install virtualbox-dkms and as init/upstart might not be up to date (new kernel ??), try rebooting, else I'd also tend to purge (and use repo, as it has better features) | 19:32 |
| DasEi | nortti: please report after reboot | 19:41 |
| nortti | now it works | 19:42 |
| DasEi | !yay | 19:42 |
| ubottu | Glad you made it! :-) | 19:42 |
| * DasEi later, homework | 19:42 | |
| nortti | I must say that I kinda feel lost every time I have to do something like this with lubuntu | 19:44 |
| searching | I need help | 19:55 |
| searching | In /etc/lxdm/lxdm.conf the theme of greeter theme=Industrial | 19:57 |
| searching | I have Lubuntu default | 19:57 |
| zleap | how do i work out what version of ubuntu i am running | 20:34 |
| zleap | lsb_version isn't working but I am not sure exactly what to type | 20:34 |
| zleap | i got it now | 20:37 |
| fdm | anybode alive here?:) | 21:55 |
| fdm | how can I change theme (black cursor + Bear2 + panel settings) via terminal? | 21:56 |
| Nate_Rev | Can I get some help booting Lubuntu from a usb? | 22:06 |
| Nate_Rev | I created a Unetbootin and my laptop will recognize it, but choosing any option or allowing it auto start freezes it.. | 22:07 |
| Nate_Rev | any ideas? | 22:08 |
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