[10:03] Hello there... HOw do I get the arrows top and bottom of scrollbars in Lubuntu? I do not liek the way they are now. thank you. [10:04] Do I hve to disable overlay scrollbars? [10:06] Is this what I should be doing - http://askubuntu.com/questions/34214/how-do-i-disable-overlay-scrollbars [10:11] Okay, that never worked. any other ideas? [10:11] X-chat has the correct scrollbars, but Document Viewer, etc do not. [10:13] Abiword does not have the correct scrollbars, but Gnumetric does. [10:14] Gnumetric does not. === stark is now known as clyphox [12:40] Good morning. [13:03] Yo. Quick and easy: Are Linux drivers processor architecture specific? IE. will a x86 driver cease to work on ARM architecture? === clyphox_ is now known as clyphox [13:35] I just installed dropbox from the .deb that dropbox provides.. how do I actually start it and get an icon showing it is working? [13:39] just run it, it'll start automatically on login in future [13:40] there will be a notifcation icon in the normal notifcation area [16:48] ? [16:48] i need some help here with the themes [16:49] can anyone help?? [18:10] Hi [18:11] I'm interested to implement Lubuntu on corporate environment. So, it is possible to do that? Will there be any other problems with file manager or any thing else? [18:12] fahim: try it live... its stable, though learning the environment, or locking it down could prove challenging [18:15] Thanks holstein for your reply. I've used lubuntu and I love it, but the fact is that I've used that for personal use. Now I need experts advice that is it ready for corporate environment? [18:15] fahim: it'll be the same as it is for you [18:15] define "ready for corporate environment" [18:16] actually depending on the needs of the organization, you may need either a different derivative or something else [18:16] just saying :P\ [18:16] fahim: there is no "corporate" version.. but it'll be the same version you are using.. [18:16] although i've put 4 organizations to Ubuntu LInux so... :P [18:16] s/Ubuntu/?buntu/ [18:16] would i use it? sure.. i would lock it down and make it work.. [18:17] If you guys tell me that it's enough for corporate environment, then I'll be relieved. I know there is no corporate edition. I want to implement lubuntu on a bank with almost 8000 PC and I want to give them same DE. So that it'll be easier for them to learn. [18:18] fahim: "enough" is a matter of opinion, and depends on the case, as TheLordOfTime is suggesting [18:18] holstein, you havent stated what you're moving from, what your needs are, etc. [18:18] so how can we give you any type of advice? [18:19] besides, we're all biased towards Ubuntu or Ubuntu-variant of choice [18:19] fahim: you can implement it where ever, and the software is what it is.. its all open which could prove more helpful [18:19] Yes. TheLordofTime thanks for your reply. I'm migrating from windows XP. [18:19] fahim: do i think i could implement *buntu for that task? sure... would i? certainly, if i felt it met the needs of the users [18:20] i think you need to evaluate what the users' needs are software-wise [18:20] before making the leap to LInux [18:21] yup.. if they need/want microsoft word for example.. or if they currently use it. that alone could be a frustration [18:21] if you came to a bank that was just opening and setup a system for them, they would just use it, and it would all work... no migration needed [18:22] its the migration and the re-learning that you need to consider [18:22] *buntu is quite capable of most any task you need.. its the users that must be considered [18:22] So, TheLordofTime I'm you have great experience on Linux migration. They are interested for a good Linux dist. with a fast DE. [18:23] "good" is a matter of opinion [18:23] Yes. holstein that's correct. [18:23] you should go back and ask them to define "good".. what exactly do they need? what software... [18:24] LXDE is a nice choice since is kind of windows like in layout [18:24] im about to do an install at a school with LXDE [18:24] fahim, go ask them what the specific needs are. [18:24] fahim, software requirements, etc. [18:24] can't give you valid info without that [18:25] but note: i only deploy Linux in organizations when they say to, most of the time I end up deploying Windows there [18:25] TheLordofTime: why Windows? [18:25] yeah... its a great way to fail if you force it on them.. even though its usually the easiest as far as maintenance to go linux, they might want/prefer windows [18:26] fahim, because the organization's needs demanded it [18:27] fahim, i work as a third-party technician for those organizations, for largescale deployments on systems, i get called in to support [18:27] most organizations do the research and say they need Windows, but these're specialized organizations who don't have software to do their needs that is FOSS or built for Linux, so... [18:27] the point is: each organization has different needs. [18:27] Linux may or may not fit those needs accordingly [18:28] I see!!! They want to save money. that's why they want Linux. [18:28] or, they are just "married" to it and might not want to transistion or migrate.. or trust the FOSS alternatives [18:28] mhm [18:28] sometimes its saving money, sometimes its software needs, but it depends on each organization [18:28] migration windows -> linux is hard for organizations [18:28] even though they save by using linux, retraining users is hard [18:28] retraining admins is even harder. [18:28] fahim: but, if they have to pay someone to re-train them to use linux.. or if they dont like it, and need to get new systems.. could be the total cost is less just staying with XP.. not that i wouldnt try migrating [18:31] in Bangladesh we are going to face copyright restrictions in near future, that's why we are thinking about switching to Linux. previously we didn't pay for windows!!! [18:32] you had microsoft give you a bunch of licenses? [18:34] um... [18:34] i think he means piracy [18:34] Yes. That bank have give a huge amount of money for 8000 PC within 2-3 months [18:35] i mean, if they arent going to pay for anything, then id say a "free" choice is the only way to go then... [18:35] Yes, as an LDC country we weren't forced to buy a licensed software by TRIPS agreement with WTO. [18:35] But that's going to end in near future. [18:36] im not following.. you mean, you pirated it? and found a loophole where you cannot be prosecuted? [18:37] i think this discussion is going offtopic... [18:38] I understand this info may be horrible to you. Please visit this link for better understanding.http://www.twnside.org.sg/title2/twninfo317.htm [18:38] sorry for the offtopic [18:40] i meant about the discussion of whether you found a loophole or not. [18:40] in any case... [18:41] the original statement still stands: if the needs do not fit LInux, you may need to find some alternative that is legal. [18:41] yeah.. i thought better of it when i asked.. i dont need to know that.. we can help with an specific question about the install [18:41] or adapt to change your needs to work with linux. [18:41] otherwise... [18:41] * TheLordOfTime returns to stabbing php5's code [18:42] Thanks guys for your help. [18:51] hi [18:51] I am running lubuntu desktop but whenever I run anything I get warnings.. For example emacs gives me [18:51] ** (emacs:25391): WARNING **: Invalid borders specified for theme pixmap: [18:51] /usr/share/themes/Lubuntu-default/gtk-2.0/images/null.png, [18:51] borders don't fit within the image [18:51] is there a lubuntu version of emacs I should be using? [18:56] I'm having a problem with oracle virtualbox. when I try to start a irtual machine I get error about kernel driver for virtualbox missing and it prompts me to run /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup as root but that file doesn't exist [18:59] nortti: rather a #vbox question, but I take it (as far as channel is calm) .. headers installed ? [18:59] !headers [18:59] To install the Linux (kernel) headers, open a terminal and: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) To install headers for libraries, you need the accompanying -dev packages [19:00] nortti: then become root in terminal (sudo -s) and just enter /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup [19:01] using dkms can save you a lot of hassle (if for any reason not by default) , ongoing ksplice is worth a look, but let's first fix hat issue [19:01] ok [19:02] are the modules being build now ? [19:02] no [19:02] headers were already installed [19:02] dkms is also installed [19:02] what is the reply to /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup ? [19:03] /bin/mksh: /etc/init.d/vboxdrv: not found [19:05] /bin/mksh ?? that's bsd, isn't it ?? [19:05] nortti: ^ [19:05] no [19:06] nortti: which terminal then ? lx-terminal ? [19:06] xterm [19:06] I installed mksh myself and set it as my default shell [19:07] nortti: ose or the oracle version ? [19:07] the one in package virtualbox which I think is oracle [19:08] nortti: per default there is only the ose in repos, unless you either get it directly from oracle or set up an additional repo [19:09] ok. should ose one call itself oracle virtualbox? [19:09] virtualbox-ose [19:09] sudo dpkg-reconfigure virtualbox-ose [19:10] ``This is a dummy transitional package for virtualbox and can be [19:10] safely removed after the installation is complete.'' [19:10] nortti: per default there is only the ose-version in repos, unless you either get it directly from oracle or set up an additional repo (which then is called just virtualbox) [19:11] sudo dpkg-reconfigure virtualbox [19:11] still doesn't work [19:12] nortti: be more specific about outputs [19:15] DasEi: http://paste.dy.fi/sx1/plain [19:15] lesshaste: did you install from the repos? [19:16] holstein, yes [19:16] holstein, although it's worth saying that I installed ubuntu and then lubuntu-desktop [19:17] nortti: before wondering about shell (as root) : apt-get -f install && apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get install virtualbox* [19:17] lesshaste: whast the issue? is it not starting? is that not in the terminal? [19:18] holstein, is starts but I get lots of warnings in the terminal [19:18] nortti: i installed virtualbox-dkms the other day after i broke virtualbox [19:18] holstein: /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup << cmd not found is the issue [19:18] nortti: i restarted to get the module to load [19:18] DasEi: yup.. i didnt find that either [19:18] DasEi: i just installed virtualbox-dkms and rebooted [19:19] * DasEi using repo 4.... here all fine [19:19] i tried to install the newer one from the oracle site.. i went back to the repo one [19:19] so the dkms then, well last above cmd, nortti [19:19] ok [19:19] nortti: sudo apt-get install virtualbox* [19:21] lesshaste: unless it looks bad or the warnings seem dangerous, i wouldnt worry about it.. you can pastebin the whole thing if you are concerned [19:21] virtualbox-dkms installed ? sudo modprobe -a [19:21] holstein, it's just very ugly :) [19:21] http://askubuntu.com/questions/225093/emacs-gives-warnings-in-lubuntu [19:25] nortti: solved ? [19:27] no [19:27] lesshaste: i just launched it here in openbox on 12.04.. no errors [19:27] lesshaste: i think its probably just as "ugly" as you were mentioning... [19:28] nortti: more precise ? the vbox-dkms-package installed ? [19:28] nortti: i would purge it all and start over... it was tricky for me the other day.. i was in the card and didnt have internet fast enough to get much help [19:30] DasEi: yes [19:32] nortti: before wondering about shell (as root) : apt-get -f install && apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get install virtualbox-dkms and as init/upstart might not be up to date (new kernel ??), try rebooting, else I'd also tend to purge (and use repo, as it has better features) [19:41] nortti: please report after reboot [19:42] now it works [19:42] !yay [19:42] Glad you made it! :-) [19:42] * DasEi later, homework [19:44] I must say that I kinda feel lost every time I have to do something like this with lubuntu [19:55] I need help [19:57] In /etc/lxdm/lxdm.conf the theme of greeter theme=Industrial [19:57] I have Lubuntu default [20:34] how do i work out what version of ubuntu i am running [20:34] lsb_version isn't working but I am not sure exactly what to type [20:37] i got it now [21:55] anybode alive here?:) [21:56] how can I change theme (black cursor + Bear2 + panel settings) via terminal? [22:06] Can I get some help booting Lubuntu from a usb? [22:07] I created a Unetbootin and my laptop will recognize it, but choosing any option or allowing it auto start freezes it.. [22:08] any ideas?