| ptl | does any of you know how to enable HDMI sound on the UG802 with ubuntu? | 00:44 |
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| stgraber | /win 37 | 02:54 |
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| dholbach | good morning | 07:52 |
| feasty | morning dholbach | 08:19 |
| dholbach | hey feasty | 08:19 |
| feasty | Cheers for the email the other day. | 08:20 |
| dholbach | thank YOU | 08:24 |
| dholbach | I'll reply to it in a bit - just finishing up some other small bits | 08:24 |
| feasty | Hey no worries. | 08:25 |
| hrw | hello | 09:14 |
| smartboyhw | hello | 09:16 |
| feasty | hey | 09:24 |
| xnox | ogra-cb_: so i get initramfs busybox from the nexus boot/rootfs on cdimage. | 10:57 |
| xnox | ogra-cb_: and I haven't been able to boot a single one off cdimage so far (as far as i remember) | 10:58 |
| xnox | the one from hwe still works... but I do use the 16GB specific image there. | 10:58 |
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| ogra_ | xnox, how did you install ? | 11:23 |
| hrw | ogra_: does unity 3d works on opengles? | 11:24 |
| ogra_ | hrw, sure | 11:25 |
| ogra_ | else nexus7 wouldnt be possible | 11:25 |
| hrw | ogra_: someone complains for chromebook: https://bugs.launchpad.net/chromebook-arm/+bug/1085596 | 11:26 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1085596 in Cross distro support for Samsung Chromebook (ARM based) "Graphics acceleration not working in ubuntu desktop 12.10" [Undecided,New] | 11:26 |
| ogra_ | yes, seems the GLES driver doesnt offer all features, you can force it to GLES though but that will still render parts in SW | 11:26 |
| ogra_ | though its fast enough to be usable even with that | 11:27 |
| hrw | nux-tools has a tool to check it iirc? | 11:27 |
| ogra_ | yes, and that seems toi be bugy | 11:28 |
| ogra_ | *buggy | 11:28 |
| ogra_ | xnox, just installing the latest daily here, seems to work fine so far | 11:28 |
| ogra_ | zsync http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-preinstalled/current/raring-preinstalled-desktop-armhf+nexus7.img.gz.zsync | 11:29 |
| ogra_ | zcat raring-preinstalled-desktop-armhf+nexus7.img.gz >raring-preinstalled-desktop-armhf+nexus7.img | 11:29 |
| ogra_ | sudo fastboot erase boot | 11:29 |
| ogra_ | sudo fastboot erase userdata | 11:29 |
| ogra_ | sudo fastboot flash userdata raring-preinstalled-desktop-armhf+nexus7.img | 11:29 |
| ogra_ | sudo fastboot flash boot raring-preinstalled-desktop-armhf+nexus7.bootimg | 11:29 |
| ogra_ | sudo fastboot reboot | 11:29 |
| ogra_ | xnox, thats my installation preocess, there is no reason it shouldnt work for you the same way | 11:30 |
| ogra_ | *process | 11:30 |
| mjrosenb | odd, my chromebook does not seem to ant to update to 12.10 | 11:30 |
| mjrosenb | it seems to really like 12.04 | 11:30 |
| ogra_ | mjrosenb, you need to tell update-manager that you want to run non LTS releases | 11:31 |
| mjrosenb | did that already | 11:31 |
| ogra_ | (somewhere in /etc/default) | 11:31 |
| mjrosenb | oh, I think I did it through the gui. | 11:31 |
| ogra_ | well, should be the same | 11:31 |
| * mjrosenb verifies that he did this... | 11:32 | |
| hrw | mjrosenb: I wish you lack with alsa mixer then | 11:32 |
| hrw | s/lack/luck | 11:33 |
| ogra_ | it is actually in /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades | 11:33 |
| hrw | mjrosenb: when you will start playing with alsa mixer switches be aware of smoke possibilities | 11:33 |
| mjrosenb | hrw: alsamixer isn't currently working, so upgrading can't hurt. | 11:33 |
| xnox | ogra_: I'll purge my downloads and redownload just in case. | 11:34 |
| mjrosenb | hrw: "smoke possibilities"? | 11:34 |
| ogra_ | xnox, on the 16G model it should still work, it just wont use all of the available diskspace | 11:34 |
| hrw | mjrosenb: many people (including me) already fried speakers in chromebook | 11:34 |
| ogra_ | mjrosenb, you can blow up the speakers apparently | 11:34 |
| mjrosenb | neato. | 11:35 |
| hrw | mjrosenb: smoke, melted plastic etc | 11:35 |
| hrw | and lot of heat of course | 11:35 |
| mjrosenb | I usually leave my laptop's speakers muted, so unless that option is inverted... | 11:35 |
| hrw | it is a bit more complicated | 11:35 |
| * ogra_ is in oem-config | 11:38 | |
| ogra_ | gah | 11:41 |
| ogra_ | the WLAN paswword input field doesnt take any input | 11:41 |
| ogra_ | xnox, hmm, i thinnk compiz screws up onboard here | 11:43 |
| ogra_ | i can provide the wlan PW via the NW applet ... but not through the installer | 11:44 |
| xnox | ogra_: interesting. | 11:44 |
| ogra_ | and now i cant type in my name | 11:44 |
| ogra_ | fridays image worked though | 11:45 |
| ogra_ | sigh | 11:46 |
| ogra_ | not being able to create a user is kind of a blocker | 11:46 |
| * ogra_ reboots | 11:46 | |
| ogra_ | ah, better, a reboot fixed it (though probably because i didnt need to configure the wlan this time) | 11:49 |
| hrw | ogra_: which keymap does ac100 uses? | 11:56 |
| hrw | ogra_: kernel one, own xkb one, generic xkb one? | 11:56 |
| ogra_ | consoilesetup as every ub untu out there | 11:57 |
| ogra_ | *console-setup | 11:57 |
| ogra_ | nexus7 install finished ... no issues beyond the kbd input stuff above | 11:57 |
| hrw | ogra_: console-setup is just a package. | 11:59 |
| ogra_ | yes, the package conatining all kbd and console font related setup bits | 12:00 |
| ogra_ | it uses keyboard-configuration, xkb-data and kbd in the backend | 12:01 |
| hrw | ok, but did you added ac100 specific keymap or not had to? | 12:03 |
| ogra_ | why would i ` | 12:04 |
| hrw | ok | 12:04 |
| hrw | I am wondering how to handle chromebook keyboard. default keymap under chromium has set of useful mappings (pgup/down home/end) which are missing under ubuntu | 12:05 |
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| ppisati | ok, this is weird | 12:59 |
| ppisati | i've a package (oprofile) that was removed in precise | 12:59 |
| ppisati | but later was reintroduced | 12:59 |
| ppisati | but was only built for armel | 12:59 |
| ppisati | ?!?! | 12:59 |
| ppisati | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/oprofile/ | 13:00 |
| ppisati | here is the Q version | 13:00 |
| ogra-cb | likely debian/control messed up | 13:00 |
| ppisati | showing that it was only built for i386/amd64 and armel | 13:01 |
| ppisati | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/oprofile/0.9.8-0ubuntu1 | 13:01 |
| ogra-cb | check debian/control if it is "Architecture: any" | 13:01 |
| ogra-cb | (it should) | 13:01 |
| ppisati | nope | 13:02 |
| ppisati | Architecture: alpha amd64 arm armel hppa i386 ia64 mips mipsel powerpc ppc64 s390 sparc | 13:02 |
| ogra-cb | yeah. fix that then :) | 13:02 |
| ppisati | adding armhf should be enough | 13:03 |
| ogra-cb | well, it defines all available arches anyway | 13:03 |
| ogra-cb | so "Architecture: any" would be proper | 13:03 |
| ppisati | yeah, "any" is probably better | 13:03 |
| ppisati | actually it's more than this | 13:51 |
| ppisati | the importer fails | 13:51 |
| ppisati | http://package-import.ubuntu.com/status/oprofile.html | 13:51 |
| ppisati | bah | 13:52 |
| janimo | ogra-cb, do you know what could have bringed and empty /lib/modules/3.5.0-213-omap4/ on the nexus7? | 13:52 |
| janimo | I only noticed it now, no idea which package brought it | 13:52 |
| ppisati | weird | 13:52 |
| janimo | I suppose it's not via the default install. It only had a build symlink in it | 13:53 |
| ogra-cb | ppisati, well, bug 653312 shows some activity at least | 13:53 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 653312 in Ubuntu Distributed Development "Import fails with NoSuchRevision" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/653312 | 13:53 |
| ogra-cb | ppisati, make some noise there :) | 13:53 |
| ogra-cb | janimo, headers most likely | 13:53 |
| ogra-cb | 3.1.10-8-nexus7 3.5.0-215-omap4 | 13:55 |
| ogra-cb | ogra@nexus7:~$ dpkg -S /lib/modules/3.5.0-215-omap4 | 13:55 |
| ogra-cb | linux-headers-3.5.0-215-omap4: /lib/modules/3.5.0-215-omap4 | 13:55 |
| ogra-cb | yeah | 13:55 |
| ogra-cb | ogra@nexus7:~$ apt-cache show linux-headers-3.5.0-215-omap4|grep Task | 13:56 |
| ogra-cb | Task: ubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-usb, edubuntu-desktop, edubuntu-usb | 13:56 |
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| ogra-cb | ppisati, err, whats that about disabling ondemand + | 16:26 |
| ogra-cb | ? | 16:26 |
| ppisati | ondemand is broken in P | 16:27 |
| ppisati | or actually | 16:27 |
| ppisati | cpufreq was broken back then | 16:27 |
| ppisati | in fact the default scheduler is performance | 16:27 |
| ppisati | but there's one guy insisting in using ondemand | 16:27 |
| ogra-cb | cant be, i never had a simgle issue with that | 16:28 |
| ppisati | so i decided to swith it off completely | 16:28 |
| ppisati | precise? | 16:28 |
| ogra-cb | and thats an essential ubuntu default | 16:28 |
| ppisati | no, it's not | 16:28 |
| ogra-cb | natty to raring | 16:28 |
| ppisati | here is the original bug | 16:28 |
| ppisati | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-ti-omap4/+bug/971091 | 16:28 |
| ogra-cb | ppisati, yes, we forcefully set it in userspace since 2008 | 16:28 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 971091 in Linaro-Ubuntu "Pandaboard ES freezes with the default CPU scaling governor ondemand" [Medium,Fix committed] | 16:28 |
| ogra-cb | i know, i see the bug (you mention it in the merge request too) | 16:29 |
| ppisati | comment #16 says "AFAIK this should be solved in tilt-3.4, the problem was coming from frequency update code which should now be in good shape." | 16:29 |
| ogra-cb | if you disable it in kernel, did you test how the userspace bits behave if the module is nonexisting ? | 16:29 |
| ppisati | wait | 16:30 |
| ppisati | i'm not using on demand on my boards | 16:30 |
| ppisati | i mean, no one forces it | 16:30 |
| ogra-cb | afaik the only prob we ever had with ondemand vs perfocmance that was actiually traceable against cpufreq was when we switched to cpuidle for a short period in precise | 16:30 |
| ogra-cb | ppisati, see the init scripts | 16:30 |
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| ogra-cb | specifically /etc/init.d/ondemand | 16:32 |
| ppisati | ogra-cb: wait | 16:32 |
| tassadar_ | ogra-cb: will 12.10 ubuntu for nexus7 receive any updates or will you update only raring now? | 16:33 |
| ogra-cb | tassadar_, *i* wont touch quantal (but i also havent touched it since UDS) | 16:34 |
| ogra-cb | tassadar_, quantal is a very evil hacked up demo image that shoouldnt actually be used for more than demoing or looking at bugs | 16:34 |
| ogra-cb | raring recieves all the love | 16:35 |
| tassadar_ | okay, thanks, one more annoying question: I would like ubuntu to be able to use some folder in /data/media/ as root folder and to be able to use .img file from flash drive as /. Is there a chance that modification like that would get into official ubuntu packages, if it is clean&properly done? | 16:37 |
| ogra-cb | yes, i think i told you about the work in grub that linaro is doing | 16:38 |
| ogra-cb | thats exactly using such a setup | 16:38 |
| ogra-cb | using grub for a boot menu, then lupin for mounting an img | 16:38 |
| ogra-cb | atter all i would still suggest to just use the recovery partition, apply two minot changes to the userspace and be done though | 16:40 |
| ogra-cb | *minor | 16:40 |
| tassadar_ | I don't want to lose recovery :/ | 16:40 |
| ogra-cb | (ita auper trivial) | 16:40 |
| ogra-cb | *its super ... | 16:41 |
| * ogra-cb cant see his keys in the dark | 16:41 | |
| ogra-cb | you can even do dual boot with the current images with a minor modificatio | 16:42 |
| ogra-cb | n | 16:42 |
| tassadar_ | ...continue...) | 16:42 |
| ogra-cb | ? | 16:42 |
| tassadar_ | what exactly do you mean by minor modification | 16:42 |
| ogra-cb | well, flash bootimg to recovery and develop a patch for flash-kernel to respect that | 16:43 |
| ogra-cb | thats all dual boot needs | 16:43 |
| ogra-cb | ppisati, is there no way to fix it in kernel ? | 16:44 |
| tassadar_ | well, now that kexec-hardboot support is in n7 kernel, I can just use files from /boot folder in Ubuntu's root, which is awesome | 16:44 |
| ogra-cb | instead of chopping out the option | 16:44 |
| ppisati | ogra-cb: the fix is "somewhere" is tilt-3.4 | 16:44 |
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| ppisati | ogra-cb: so it could be anywhere | 16:45 |
| ogra-cb | tassadar_, that wont save you, it will berak on the fist run of update-initramfs | 16:45 |
| tassadar_ | yes, I'll have to remove the flash-kernel hook | 16:45 |
| ogra-cb | which you really want to keep in case someone uses i.e. an encrypted homedir | 16:46 |
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| ogra-cb | tassadar_, if you want to avoid flashing, tra to have a file that exports FLASH_KERNEL_SKIP on boot | 16:47 |
| ogra-cb | (set it to something indeed) | 16:47 |
| ogra-cb | that should save you | 16:47 |
| ogra-cb | thats better than removing packaged files | 16:47 |
| tassadar_ | yeah, saw that in the hooks, that will indeed be better | 16:47 |
| ogra-cb | (they have a tendency to re-appear) ;) | 16:47 |
| ppisati | ogra-cb: anyhow, if you try to use a governor that is not available, it's a noop | 16:50 |
| ogra-cb | k | 16:50 |
| ogra-cb | still, its an ubuntu default we dont offer | 16:51 |
| ogra-cb | also are we sure the thing wont overheat if it permanently runs at full speed ? | 16:51 |
| ppisati | either we do this, or we have to disable cpufreq | 16:51 |
| ogra-cb | which means full power anyway and bigger changes | 16:52 |
| ogra-cb | well, seems there is no way around unless we offer a backported kernel then :/ | 16:53 |
| ppisati | ogra-cb: btw, i was pretty sure i asked what our builders were running, and i was told it was performance | 16:54 |
| ogra-cb | ppisati, ah, could be, i think they use ubuntu-core or something similar, that might not ship these userspace bits | 16:55 |
| ppisati | ogra-cb: so if they don't melt, i'm good with performance | 16:55 |
| ogra-cb | heh, k | 16:56 |
| ogra-cb | infinity, so whats your plan wrt nexus7 and flavours | 16:56 |
| infinity | Not sure I have one. | 16:57 |
| ogra-cb | currently an ubuntu desktop build takes 130-150min | 16:57 |
| ogra-cb | if we switch doing tarball post processing on nusakan i guess we could get to 90min or so | 16:57 |
| ogra-cb | i have definitive requests from kubuntu. lubuntu and edubuntu | 16:58 |
| ogra-cb | and would like to provide something for them by A2 time | 16:59 |
| infinity | We'll have to talk about it in a bit, then. | 16:59 |
| infinity | It may require bringing up another buildd. | 16:59 |
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| ogra-cb | do you think there are chances for simply getting a second builder in place | 16:59 |
| ogra-cb | ah, snap | 16:59 |
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| whatissixbynine | sup sup | 17:13 |
| whatissixbynine | I've got a galaxy s3 i9300 (exynos 4212 quad core version, 1gb ram, no lte). Would like to get this going for it.. any advice? | 17:17 |
| whatissixbynine | 4412 i meant, sorry! | 17:19 |
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| whatissixbynine | :/ | 17:41 |
| whatissixbynine | jeez guys | 18:01 |
| whatissixbynine | how ya gonna pick up momentum if no one is ever around ;_; | 18:02 |
| * ogra-cb sees 178 people in the channel | 18:05 | |
| ogra-cb | whatissixbynine, usually people react to questions in this channel, you should probably ask yours :) | 18:06 |
| whatissixbynine | [09:18] <whatissixbynine> I've got a galaxy s3 i9300 (exynos 4212 quad core version, 1gb ram, no lte). Would like to get this going for it.. any advice? | 18:07 |
| ogra-cb | thats not a question is it ? | 18:07 |
| whatissixbynine | sure looks like it to me o.O | 18:08 |
| ogra-cb | what exactlyy do you want to know ? | 18:08 |
| whatissixbynine | its enough information to correctly ident it (was 4412 rather than 4212 cpu btw) | 18:08 |
| ogra-cb | we dont offer any images for phones | 18:08 |
| whatissixbynine | well, i don't see an ubuntu for general exynos, but i do see one for odroid-x | 18:09 |
| ogra-cb | so its up to you | 18:09 |
| ogra-cb | the userspace can surely run on that HW | 18:09 |
| whatissixbynine | there was a great project with the motorola, vids and such, calls and texts working | 18:09 |
| ogra-cb | not from here though | 18:09 |
| whatissixbynine | so your saying that no one bothered to pull the stuff in? | 18:10 |
| ogra-cb | there is a commercial project from canonical, if you mean ubuntu for android | 18:10 |
| whatissixbynine | hm | 18:10 |
| ogra-cb | of which there is nothing more available than these videos | 18:10 |
| xnox | publically that is. | 18:11 |
| ogra-cb | ubuntu-arm offrers current;y images for panda and beagleboard as well as the nexus7 tablet and the ac100 netbook | 18:11 |
| ogra-cb | if you want anything else you need to build it | 18:11 |
| ogra-cb | (oh, and i forgot highbank and armadaxp arches on server) | 18:12 |
| whatissixbynine | hm | 18:12 |
| whatissixbynine | yeah i figured i would have to build it, but i thought i could take something like the odroid and hack it towards this. anyway not sure how to start. | 18:12 |
| whatissixbynine | so | 18:12 |
| whatissixbynine | Would like to get this going for it.. any advice? where do i start? | 18:13 |
| whatissixbynine | I can get chroot working, and i don't like it. vnc sucks. | 18:13 |
| ogra-cb | well, userspace is usuallz always the same in ubuntu-arm | 18:13 |
| whatissixbynine | just its crashing is a dealbreaker | 18:13 |
| * xnox is not sure what "odroid" is that you are talking about. | 18:14 | |
| whatissixbynine | the ubuntu for android is what I am looking for | 18:14 |
| ogra-cb | so you need to know how to modify the bootloader and shoudl provide your own kernel | 18:14 |
| whatissixbynine | http://www.hardkernel.com/renewal_2011/main.php | 18:14 |
| ogra-cb | ubuntu for android only exists in videos | 18:14 |
| whatissixbynine | ok, so the repos for the packages i want arn't open source or openly available? | 18:15 |
| ogra-cb | no idea if there are repos | 18:15 |
| ogra-cb | there is surely code, but yeah, thats not public yet | 18:15 |
| whatissixbynine | i dont really care if i got to build from scratch, i'm looking for a guide or howto or something | 18:15 |
| ogra-cb | well, there is nothing yet | 18:15 |
| whatissixbynine | well, how does one go about porting arm to a new device? | 18:16 |
| whatissixbynine | one that's NOT new | 18:16 |
| whatissixbynine | 99% of what i need driver wise should be in the odroid image | 18:16 |
| ogra-cb | well, userspace is usually ported :) | 18:16 |
| whatissixbynine | ? | 18:16 |
| whatissixbynine | no comprende | 18:16 |
| ogra-cb | as long as you have an ARMv7 device all of ubuntu will just run | 18:16 |
| whatissixbynine | yes it is | 18:17 |
| ogra-cb | what you need to get your specific device going is ehough insight into the bootloader and boot process and your own kernel build | 18:17 |
| whatissixbynine | give me a sec | 18:18 |
| ogra-cb | (as i said above a few lines) | 18:18 |
| whatissixbynine | i'm having trouble with ur head | 18:18 |
| ogra-cb | all of ubuntu is built and available for ARMv7 ... if you have a working setup you can just apt-get install whatever you want ... not different to any intel PC | 18:20 |
| ogra-cb | but whats not in ubuntu is any support for your device | 18:20 |
| ogra-cb | (bootloader and kernel) | 18:20 |
| ogra-cb | everything above bootloader and kernel level is already there and usable ... | 18:21 |
| ogra-cb | so to enable your device you need to get these two bits working | 18:21 |
| whatissixbynine | ok | 18:26 |
| whatissixbynine | that makes a bit more sense | 18:26 |
| whatissixbynine | when I chroot into it, and do the vnc type install, that does not create an acceptable kernel/bootloader? | 18:27 |
| whatissixbynine | that's actually a vm? | 18:27 |
| ogra-cb | no, that uses the android kernel and bootloader | 18:27 |
| ogra-cb | its a chroot, a VM emulates a machine | 18:28 |
| whatissixbynine | right, thought so | 18:28 |
| ogra-cb | the chroot just uses the android and runs an ubuntu rootfs inside | 18:28 |
| ogra-cb | whcih also means that various bits indeed wont work | 18:28 |
| whatissixbynine | got it | 18:28 |
| whatissixbynine | hm | 18:37 |
| Ethernin | yeah it would be great if you could just install full arm ubuntu with it's own kernel on android phones... | 19:07 |
| Ethernin | like the Nexus 7 | 19:07 |
| whatissixbynine | yes | 19:08 |
| whatissixbynine | Ethernin, it really should be possible. very annoying that it's even this hard. even more annoying that there's little to no open projects for porting to new devices | 19:14 |
| RaYmAn | It's not hard at all. Getting basic linux/debian/ubuntu running on any arm device where you can flash your own kernel is trivial..Getting it running good is a whole other matter of course. | 19:16 |
| whatissixbynine | RaYmAn, ok now your talking sir! | 19:20 |
| whatissixbynine | i have ability to dual boot into secondary rom, so initially i would slam in there | 19:21 |
| whatissixbynine | running good may indeed take a lot more, but i would be happy to get a start on | 19:21 |
| whatissixbynine | currently downloading the android sammy source for my i9300 and gonna try to slam the linux image from odroid inside it | 19:21 |
| RaYmAn | usually the easiest is just a couple of steps. 1) get a standard rootfs that doesn't start anything graphical - disable plymouth.Put it on an sdcard 2) build a kernel with fbconsole enabled and point cmdline at sdcard. fbcon should give some info | 19:22 |
| whatissixbynine | not sure at all what i'm doing at this point, but i suppose i could update yall as we go | 19:23 |
| whatissixbynine | right | 19:24 |
| slangasek | hey, anyone here who could help with a gdb-multiarch issue? | 19:33 |
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| slangasek | am trying to run gdb-multiarch on x86_64 against an Ubuntu armhf corefile + executable; I swear this used to work, but I never remember quite how to do it so I'm not sure if gdb has regressed or if I'm just missing the magic option | 19:37 |
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