[00:44] does any of you know how to enable HDMI sound on the UG802 with ubuntu? === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk [02:54] /win 37 === zz_chihchun is now known as chihchun === Sv2 is now known as sv [07:52] good morning [08:19] morning dholbach [08:19] hey feasty [08:20] Cheers for the email the other day. [08:24] thank YOU [08:24] I'll reply to it in a bit - just finishing up some other small bits [08:25] Hey no worries. [09:14] hello [09:16] hello [09:24] hey [10:57] ogra-cb_: so i get initramfs busybox from the nexus boot/rootfs on cdimage. [10:58] ogra-cb_: and I haven't been able to boot a single one off cdimage so far (as far as i remember) [10:58] the one from hwe still works... but I do use the 16GB specific image there. === chihchun is now known as zz_chihchun === dmart_ is now known as dmart [11:23] xnox, how did you install ? [11:24] ogra_: does unity 3d works on opengles? [11:25] hrw, sure [11:25] else nexus7 wouldnt be possible [11:26] ogra_: someone complains for chromebook: https://bugs.launchpad.net/chromebook-arm/+bug/1085596 [11:26] Launchpad bug 1085596 in Cross distro support for Samsung Chromebook (ARM based) "Graphics acceleration not working in ubuntu desktop 12.10" [Undecided,New] [11:26] yes, seems the GLES driver doesnt offer all features, you can force it to GLES though but that will still render parts in SW [11:27] though its fast enough to be usable even with that [11:27] nux-tools has a tool to check it iirc? [11:28] yes, and that seems toi be bugy [11:28] *buggy [11:28] xnox, just installing the latest daily here, seems to work fine so far [11:29] zsync http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-preinstalled/current/raring-preinstalled-desktop-armhf+nexus7.img.gz.zsync [11:29] zcat raring-preinstalled-desktop-armhf+nexus7.img.gz >raring-preinstalled-desktop-armhf+nexus7.img [11:29] sudo fastboot erase boot [11:29] sudo fastboot erase userdata [11:29] sudo fastboot flash userdata raring-preinstalled-desktop-armhf+nexus7.img [11:29] sudo fastboot flash boot raring-preinstalled-desktop-armhf+nexus7.bootimg [11:29] sudo fastboot reboot [11:30] xnox, thats my installation preocess, there is no reason it shouldnt work for you the same way [11:30] *process [11:30] odd, my chromebook does not seem to ant to update to 12.10 [11:30] it seems to really like 12.04 [11:31] mjrosenb, you need to tell update-manager that you want to run non LTS releases [11:31] did that already [11:31] (somewhere in /etc/default) [11:31] oh, I think I did it through the gui. [11:31] well, should be the same [11:32] * mjrosenb verifies that he did this... [11:32] mjrosenb: I wish you lack with alsa mixer then [11:33] s/lack/luck [11:33] it is actually in /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades [11:33] mjrosenb: when you will start playing with alsa mixer switches be aware of smoke possibilities [11:33] hrw: alsamixer isn't currently working, so upgrading can't hurt. [11:34] ogra_: I'll purge my downloads and redownload just in case. [11:34] hrw: "smoke possibilities"? [11:34] xnox, on the 16G model it should still work, it just wont use all of the available diskspace [11:34] mjrosenb: many people (including me) already fried speakers in chromebook [11:34] mjrosenb, you can blow up the speakers apparently [11:35] neato. [11:35] mjrosenb: smoke, melted plastic etc [11:35] and lot of heat of course [11:35] I usually leave my laptop's speakers muted, so unless that option is inverted... [11:35] it is a bit more complicated [11:38] * ogra_ is in oem-config [11:41] gah [11:41] the WLAN paswword input field doesnt take any input [11:43] xnox, hmm, i thinnk compiz screws up onboard here [11:44] i can provide the wlan PW via the NW applet ... but not through the installer [11:44] ogra_: interesting. [11:44] and now i cant type in my name [11:45] fridays image worked though [11:46] sigh [11:46] not being able to create a user is kind of a blocker [11:46] * ogra_ reboots [11:49] ah, better, a reboot fixed it (though probably because i didnt need to configure the wlan this time) [11:56] ogra_: which keymap does ac100 uses? [11:56] ogra_: kernel one, own xkb one, generic xkb one? [11:57] consoilesetup as every ub untu out there [11:57] *console-setup [11:57] nexus7 install finished ... no issues beyond the kbd input stuff above [11:59] ogra_: console-setup is just a package. [12:00] yes, the package conatining all kbd and console font related setup bits [12:01] it uses keyboard-configuration, xkb-data and kbd in the backend [12:03] ok, but did you added ac100 specific keymap or not had to? [12:04] why would i ` [12:04] ok [12:05] I am wondering how to handle chromebook keyboard. default keymap under chromium has set of useful mappings (pgup/down home/end) which are missing under ubuntu === doko__ is now known as doko === yofel_ is now known as yofel [12:59] ok, this is weird [12:59] i've a package (oprofile) that was removed in precise [12:59] but later was reintroduced [12:59] but was only built for armel [12:59] ?!?! [13:00] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/oprofile/ [13:00] here is the Q version [13:00] likely debian/control messed up [13:01] showing that it was only built for i386/amd64 and armel [13:01] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/oprofile/0.9.8-0ubuntu1 [13:01] check debian/control if it is "Architecture: any" [13:01] (it should) [13:02] nope [13:02] Architecture: alpha amd64 arm armel hppa i386 ia64 mips mipsel powerpc ppc64 s390 sparc [13:02] yeah. fix that then :) [13:03] adding armhf should be enough [13:03] well, it defines all available arches anyway [13:03] so "Architecture: any" would be proper [13:03] yeah, "any" is probably better [13:51] actually it's more than this [13:51] the importer fails [13:51] http://package-import.ubuntu.com/status/oprofile.html [13:52] bah [13:52] ogra-cb, do you know what could have bringed and empty /lib/modules/3.5.0-213-omap4/ on the nexus7? [13:52] I only noticed it now, no idea which package brought it [13:52] weird [13:53] I suppose it's not via the default install. It only had a build symlink in it [13:53] ppisati, well, bug 653312 shows some activity at least [13:53] Launchpad bug 653312 in Ubuntu Distributed Development "Import fails with NoSuchRevision" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/653312 [13:53] ppisati, make some noise there :) [13:53] janimo, headers most likely [13:55] 3.1.10-8-nexus7 3.5.0-215-omap4 [13:55] ogra@nexus7:~$ dpkg -S /lib/modules/3.5.0-215-omap4 [13:55] linux-headers-3.5.0-215-omap4: /lib/modules/3.5.0-215-omap4 [13:55] yeah [13:56] ogra@nexus7:~$ apt-cache show linux-headers-3.5.0-215-omap4|grep Task [13:56] Task: ubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-usb, edubuntu-desktop, edubuntu-usb === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [16:26] ppisati, err, whats that about disabling ondemand + [16:26] ? [16:27] ondemand is broken in P [16:27] or actually [16:27] cpufreq was broken back then [16:27] in fact the default scheduler is performance [16:27] but there's one guy insisting in using ondemand [16:28] cant be, i never had a simgle issue with that [16:28] so i decided to swith it off completely [16:28] precise? [16:28] and thats an essential ubuntu default [16:28] no, it's not [16:28] natty to raring [16:28] here is the original bug [16:28] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-ti-omap4/+bug/971091 [16:28] ppisati, yes, we forcefully set it in userspace since 2008 [16:28] Launchpad bug 971091 in Linaro-Ubuntu "Pandaboard ES freezes with the default CPU scaling governor ondemand" [Medium,Fix committed] [16:29] i know, i see the bug (you mention it in the merge request too) [16:29] comment #16 says "AFAIK this should be solved in tilt-3.4, the problem was coming from frequency update code which should now be in good shape." [16:29] if you disable it in kernel, did you test how the userspace bits behave if the module is nonexisting ? [16:30] wait [16:30] i'm not using on demand on my boards [16:30] i mean, no one forces it [16:30] afaik the only prob we ever had with ondemand vs perfocmance that was actiually traceable against cpufreq was when we switched to cpuidle for a short period in precise [16:30] ppisati, see the init scripts === gatox is now known as gatox_lunch [16:32] specifically /etc/init.d/ondemand [16:32] ogra-cb: wait [16:33] ogra-cb: will 12.10 ubuntu for nexus7 receive any updates or will you update only raring now? [16:34] tassadar_, *i* wont touch quantal (but i also havent touched it since UDS) [16:34] tassadar_, quantal is a very evil hacked up demo image that shoouldnt actually be used for more than demoing or looking at bugs [16:35] raring recieves all the love [16:37] okay, thanks, one more annoying question: I would like ubuntu to be able to use some folder in /data/media/ as root folder and to be able to use .img file from flash drive as /. Is there a chance that modification like that would get into official ubuntu packages, if it is clean&properly done? [16:38] yes, i think i told you about the work in grub that linaro is doing [16:38] thats exactly using such a setup [16:38] using grub for a boot menu, then lupin for mounting an img [16:40] atter all i would still suggest to just use the recovery partition, apply two minot changes to the userspace and be done though [16:40] *minor [16:40] I don't want to lose recovery :/ [16:40] (ita auper trivial) [16:41] *its super ... [16:41] * ogra-cb cant see his keys in the dark [16:42] you can even do dual boot with the current images with a minor modificatio [16:42] n [16:42] ...continue...) [16:42] ? [16:42] what exactly do you mean by minor modification [16:43] well, flash bootimg to recovery and develop a patch for flash-kernel to respect that [16:43] thats all dual boot needs [16:44] ppisati, is there no way to fix it in kernel ? [16:44] well, now that kexec-hardboot support is in n7 kernel, I can just use files from /boot folder in Ubuntu's root, which is awesome [16:44] instead of chopping out the option [16:44] ogra-cb: the fix is "somewhere" is tilt-3.4 === yofel_ is now known as yofel [16:45] ogra-cb: so it could be anywhere [16:45] tassadar_, that wont save you, it will berak on the fist run of update-initramfs [16:45] yes, I'll have to remove the flash-kernel hook [16:46] which you really want to keep in case someone uses i.e. an encrypted homedir === Sv2 is now known as sv [16:47] tassadar_, if you want to avoid flashing, tra to have a file that exports FLASH_KERNEL_SKIP on boot [16:47] (set it to something indeed) [16:47] that should save you [16:47] thats better than removing packaged files [16:47] yeah, saw that in the hooks, that will indeed be better [16:47] (they have a tendency to re-appear) ;) [16:50] ogra-cb: anyhow, if you try to use a governor that is not available, it's a noop [16:50] k [16:51] still, its an ubuntu default we dont offer [16:51] also are we sure the thing wont overheat if it permanently runs at full speed ? [16:51] either we do this, or we have to disable cpufreq [16:52] which means full power anyway and bigger changes [16:53] well, seems there is no way around unless we offer a backported kernel then :/ [16:54] ogra-cb: btw, i was pretty sure i asked what our builders were running, and i was told it was performance [16:55] ppisati, ah, could be, i think they use ubuntu-core or something similar, that might not ship these userspace bits [16:55] ogra-cb: so if they don't melt, i'm good with performance [16:56] heh, k [16:56] infinity, so whats your plan wrt nexus7 and flavours [16:57] Not sure I have one. [16:57] currently an ubuntu desktop build takes 130-150min [16:57] if we switch doing tarball post processing on nusakan i guess we could get to 90min or so [16:58] i have definitive requests from kubuntu. lubuntu and edubuntu [16:59] and would like to provide something for them by A2 time [16:59] We'll have to talk about it in a bit, then. [16:59] It may require bringing up another buildd. === ndec2 is now known as ndec2|away [16:59] do you think there are chances for simply getting a second builder in place [16:59] ah, snap === ndec2|away is now known as ndec2 === ndec2 is now known as ndec2|away === ndec2|away is now known as ndec2 === owner is now known as whatissixbynine [17:13] sup sup [17:17] I've got a galaxy s3 i9300 (exynos 4212 quad core version, 1gb ram, no lte). Would like to get this going for it.. any advice? [17:19] 4412 i meant, sorry! === gatox_lunch is now known as gatox [17:41] :/ [18:01] jeez guys [18:02] how ya gonna pick up momentum if no one is ever around ;_; [18:05] * ogra-cb sees 178 people in the channel [18:06] whatissixbynine, usually people react to questions in this channel, you should probably ask yours :) [18:07] [09:18] I've got a galaxy s3 i9300 (exynos 4212 quad core version, 1gb ram, no lte). Would like to get this going for it.. any advice? [18:07] thats not a question is it ? [18:08] sure looks like it to me o.O [18:08] what exactlyy do you want to know ? [18:08] its enough information to correctly ident it (was 4412 rather than 4212 cpu btw) [18:08] we dont offer any images for phones [18:09] well, i don't see an ubuntu for general exynos, but i do see one for odroid-x [18:09] so its up to you [18:09] the userspace can surely run on that HW [18:09] there was a great project with the motorola, vids and such, calls and texts working [18:09] not from here though [18:10] so your saying that no one bothered to pull the stuff in? [18:10] there is a commercial project from canonical, if you mean ubuntu for android [18:10] hm [18:10] of which there is nothing more available than these videos [18:11] publically that is. [18:11] ubuntu-arm offrers current;y images for panda and beagleboard as well as the nexus7 tablet and the ac100 netbook [18:11] if you want anything else you need to build it [18:12] (oh, and i forgot highbank and armadaxp arches on server) [18:12] hm [18:12] yeah i figured i would have to build it, but i thought i could take something like the odroid and hack it towards this. anyway not sure how to start. [18:12] so [18:13] Would like to get this going for it.. any advice? where do i start? [18:13] I can get chroot working, and i don't like it. vnc sucks. [18:13] well, userspace is usuallz always the same in ubuntu-arm [18:13] just its crashing is a dealbreaker [18:14] * xnox is not sure what "odroid" is that you are talking about. [18:14] the ubuntu for android is what I am looking for [18:14] so you need to know how to modify the bootloader and shoudl provide your own kernel [18:14] http://www.hardkernel.com/renewal_2011/main.php [18:14] ubuntu for android only exists in videos [18:15] ok, so the repos for the packages i want arn't open source or openly available? [18:15] no idea if there are repos [18:15] there is surely code, but yeah, thats not public yet [18:15] i dont really care if i got to build from scratch, i'm looking for a guide or howto or something [18:15] well, there is nothing yet [18:16] well, how does one go about porting arm to a new device? [18:16] one that's NOT new [18:16] 99% of what i need driver wise should be in the odroid image [18:16] well, userspace is usually ported :) [18:16] ? [18:16] no comprende [18:16] as long as you have an ARMv7 device all of ubuntu will just run [18:17] yes it is [18:17] what you need to get your specific device going is ehough insight into the bootloader and boot process and your own kernel build [18:18] give me a sec [18:18] (as i said above a few lines) [18:18] i'm having trouble with ur head [18:20] all of ubuntu is built and available for ARMv7 ... if you have a working setup you can just apt-get install whatever you want ... not different to any intel PC [18:20] but whats not in ubuntu is any support for your device [18:20] (bootloader and kernel) [18:21] everything above bootloader and kernel level is already there and usable ... [18:21] so to enable your device you need to get these two bits working [18:26] ok [18:26] that makes a bit more sense [18:27] when I chroot into it, and do the vnc type install, that does not create an acceptable kernel/bootloader? [18:27] that's actually a vm? [18:27] no, that uses the android kernel and bootloader [18:28] its a chroot, a VM emulates a machine [18:28] right, thought so [18:28] the chroot just uses the android and runs an ubuntu rootfs inside [18:28] whcih also means that various bits indeed wont work [18:28] got it [18:37] hm [19:07] yeah it would be great if you could just install full arm ubuntu with it's own kernel on android phones... [19:07] like the Nexus 7 [19:08] yes [19:14] Ethernin, it really should be possible. very annoying that it's even this hard. even more annoying that there's little to no open projects for porting to new devices [19:16] It's not hard at all. Getting basic linux/debian/ubuntu running on any arm device where you can flash your own kernel is trivial..Getting it running good is a whole other matter of course. [19:20] RaYmAn, ok now your talking sir! [19:21] i have ability to dual boot into secondary rom, so initially i would slam in there [19:21] running good may indeed take a lot more, but i would be happy to get a start on [19:21] currently downloading the android sammy source for my i9300 and gonna try to slam the linux image from odroid inside it [19:22] usually the easiest is just a couple of steps. 1) get a standard rootfs that doesn't start anything graphical - disable plymouth.Put it on an sdcard 2) build a kernel with fbconsole enabled and point cmdline at sdcard. fbcon should give some info [19:23] not sure at all what i'm doing at this point, but i suppose i could update yall as we go [19:24] right [19:33] hey, anyone here who could help with a gdb-multiarch issue? === nemik_ is now known as nemik [19:37] am trying to run gdb-multiarch on x86_64 against an Ubuntu armhf corefile + executable; I swear this used to work, but I never remember quite how to do it so I'm not sure if gdb has regressed or if I'm just missing the magic option === Sv2 is now known as sv