[02:26] <grantbow> meeting tonight in about a half hour :-)
[02:36] <jercos> shiny.
[02:40] <philballew> If anyone wants to add something to the meeting agenda before the meeting, now is the best time.
[02:58] <philballew> meeting in two minutes
[03:00] <grantbow> \o/
[03:00] <philballew> [03:00] <philballew> Well then, it is meeting time
[03:00] <grantbow> #startmeeting
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[03:01] <grantbow> #endmeeting
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[03:01] <philballew> ah, yeah. Lets use the bot.
[03:01] <philballew> #startmeeting
[03:01] <darthrobot> Meeting started Mon Dec  3 03:01:31 2012 UTC.  The chair is philballew. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[03:01] <grantbow> go for it, chair :-)
[03:01] <toddc> long meeting/
[03:02] <philballew> let me paste the agenda
[03:02] <philballew> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/12December02
[03:02] <darthrobot> Title: [CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/12December02 - Ubuntu Wiki]
[03:02] <philballew> Currently nothing there
[03:03] <philballew> Does anyone have anything they would like to bring up or add?
[03:03] <grantbow> I do not have anything urgent for this meeting
[03:04] <philballew> Me as well.
[03:04] <philballew> Alright then, how about we call this a night.
[03:04] <grantbow> I announced the t-shirt art contest, please submit when you can.
[03:04] <philballew> ah yes.
[03:05] <philballew> I think having the booth workers wearing them for scale might be cool.
[03:05]  * philballew is a booth worker
[03:05] <grantbow> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-us-ca/2012-November/002097.html
[03:05] <darthrobot> Title: [[Ubuntu-US-CA] Shirt Design Contest]
[03:06] <grantbow> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/Shirts-2012
[03:06] <darthrobot> Title: [CaliforniaTeam/Projects/Shirts-2012 - Ubuntu Wiki]
[03:06] <grantbow> QT Developer days is Dec 5-7, Wed -Fri.
[03:06]  * philballew looks back into his closet to see both older tshirts
[03:07] <philballew> unity uses qt for those who did not know
[03:07] <grantbow> Anyone who is interested in speaking please reply to the email list. We have other speaking opportunities besides www.svlug.org
[03:08] <grantbow> Ubuntu Hours are happening all over. San Jose today.
[03:08] <philballew> Ubuntu San Diego in a week and a half, and pleia2 should be in the area and might pop in.
[03:08] <grantbow> Ubuntu Hour Berkeley did well yesterday with six people. Another one is already scheduled for the first Sat next month.
[03:08] <grantbow> +1 SD
[03:09] <philballew> alright then. Anything else anyone has?
[03:09] <grantbow> schedule event calendar is at http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-california/
[03:09] <darthrobot> Title: [Ubuntu California | Ubuntu LoCo Team Portal]
[03:09] <grantbow> that's it for me
[03:11] <philballew> #endmeeting
[03:11] <darthrobot> Meeting ended Mon Dec  3 03:11:30 2012 UTC.
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[03:11] <grantbow> Thanks for chairing philballew
[03:12] <philballew> not a problem grantbow
[03:12] <grantbow> anyone else around that hasn't spoken yet?
[03:12] <grantbow> I announced the meeting through dvlug.org berkeleylug.com and sf-lug.com but I don't see anyone from the announcement.
[03:13] <grantbow> I mean nobody new seems to have shown up from the emails.
[03:17] <grantbow> I'll be around later this evening but I have dinner guests now. cya later :-)
[03:20] <philballew> peace
[03:22] <akk> I'm around but didn't really have anything to add.
[03:22] <akk> Except I didn't know unity used qt, that's interesting, but unrelated to the meeting.
[03:33] <pleia2> thanks philballew!
[03:34] <pleia2> philballew: it was actually Unity 2d that used a lot of Qt, that's no longer maintained :(
[04:00] <philballew> pleia2, unity 2d stopped last cycle?
[04:00] <philballew> thought it was stopping this cycle?
[04:00] <philballew> my bad
[04:00] <pleia2> philballew: yeah, 12.04 was the last one with Unity 2d
[04:00] <philballew> ah, having only one version of unity is better probably.
[04:01] <pleia2> with 12.10 they use the emulation library to use the same code even when your card isn't 3d accellerated (which is why Unity is so painfully slow on older machines and everyone says 12.10 sucks)
[04:01]  * philballew uses lxde on most machines
[04:01] <pleia2> yeah, xfce here
[04:02] <akk> Having only one version isn't so good if that one version lacks support for older machines. :(
[04:03] <pleia2> it doesn't lack support, it's just slow
[04:03] <akk> So slow as to be pretty much unusable -- ever tried to use unity inside virtualbox?
[04:03] <philballew> they are not as concerned about that group I think.
[04:03] <akk> I wanted to have a vanilla ubuntu around in virtualbox for testing things, but I've sorta given up on it.
[04:03] <pleia2> I have 3d accelleration turned on in virtualbox, but I get your point :)
[04:04] <akk> I tried to turn it on, but it was greyed out IIRC.
[04:05] <akk> Hmm, now it's not greyed out, maybe it's a kernel difference.
[04:05] <pleia2> support has improved a lot over the past couple cycles
[04:05] <philballew> my two laptops are unity and they use about 700 mb's or ram just sitting there
[04:05] <pleia2> I think I was first able to do 3d in virtualbox in 12.04
[04:06] <akk> There are some things from python-snippets that I want to test under unity if I ever manage to catch jono online to find out how to resolve bugs in that package.
[04:07] <pleia2> he tends to be online weekdays 9-5 in #ubuntu-community-team
[04:07] <pleia2> but he just beame a father, so YMMV :)
[04:07] <akk> ah, that might be the problem.
[04:07] <philballew> Good luck to him and what not.
[04:07] <akk> I've pinged him a couple times without an answer, but I haven't been around very consistently either.
[04:08]  * pleia2 nods
[04:09] <philballew> pleia2, so I got your email for sd and everything is gonna work out great
[04:10] <pleia2> philballew: yay!
[04:10] <pleia2> where will it be?
[04:11] <philballew> I see a few options currently, a starbucks 2 miles away, or downtown thats also two miles away. Both the bus goes right to them. I can take the bus with you there to both probably
[04:12] <pleia2> that would be helpful, I don't love the idea of taking a bus alone at night in a city I'm not familiar with
[04:12] <philballew> if you bring some roller skates, I might be able to pull you on my bike?
[04:12]  * philballew runs and hides
[04:12] <pleia2> lol
[04:13] <akk> Most Starbucks tend to be crowded and noisy -- I've had a lot of attempted meetings in Starbucks that didn't work out.
[04:13] <philballew> Its easy for people because they like the coffee though to.
[04:14] <pleia2> philballew: wednesday or thursday night?
[04:14] <pleia2> I still don't have plans for either, ariley said he might come along too if he's available though
[04:14] <philballew> pleia2, I think Thursday is the plan, but will know for sure in about two days.
[04:14] <pleia2> ok :)
[04:15] <pleia2> MJ is flying down friday night, so saturday and sunday we're doing the zoo and animal park!
[04:15] <philballew> The zoo is awesome!!!!
[04:15] <pleia2> yeah, I've wanted to go my whole life
[04:15] <akk> It's a really good zoo. I've never been to the animal park, but I bet it's great too.
[04:15]  * philballew flys out Friday night.
[04:16] <philballew> pleia2, you can spend a lot of time in the zoo.
[04:16] <philballew> At least that is what people tell me
[04:16] <pleia2> :)
[04:17] <pleia2> MJ should have his DSLR by then, that'll be fun
[04:17] <pleia2> camera
[04:17] <philballew> Have fun!
[06:59] <pleia2> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/28/megabus_n_2206234.html
[06:59] <darthrobot> Title: [Megabus California: Low-Cost Bus Service Expands Into Golden State With $1 San Francisco To Los Angeles Service]
[06:59] <pleia2> I know megabus from the east coast, didn't realize they had plans for the bay area
[07:00] <pleia2> $1 is temporary, but still less than $10 a ride for their real prices (that article says $5-9)
[07:00] <pleia2> might be useful for scale :)
[08:00] <pleia2> doh, looks like I'll be traveling during both of the other December meetings
[08:03] <philipballew> pleia2, Ill be off school both of those. Assuming I am not out running around doing reckless teenage things I can do them.
[08:04] <pleia2> hehe
[08:04] <pleia2> ok, I'll touch base with grantbow too and see if he'll be around
[08:05] <pleia2> we might cancel one of them too, Dec 30th is a tricky date given proximity to holidays
[08:05] <philipballew> yeah, good point. seems fine to do that
[08:05] <philipballew> pleia2, I am correct to assume you will not be at ScaLE this year correct?
[08:10] <pleia2> philipballew: that's the plan, job situation is too uncertain right now
[08:11] <pleia2> it's ashame, would have liked to speak at it again, just can't make plans until I know what work looks like
[08:12] <philipballew> pleia2, alright.
[08:12] <philipballew> Hope to see you there anyway
[08:12] <philipballew> I  was considering getting some t shirts made from a ubuntu friendly group around here for the booth workers.
[08:13] <pleia2> cool :)
[08:14] <philipballew> pleia2, Darkwing would usually handle the conference packs and stuff right?  and the table cloth and all that jazz?
[08:14] <pleia2> no, that was me
[08:14] <pleia2> I can ship down whatever you need
[08:14] <pleia2> I have the banner and tablecloth right now, and some other booth stuff that can go down
[08:16] <philipballew> ah, seems easy enough then.
[08:16] <philipballew> I'm gonna have a lot of copies of the book Ubuntu made easy"  to give to people visiting
[08:17] <philipballew> and trying to get ll booth workers to help a copy of this and the art of community
[08:17] <philipballew> *all
[08:17] <pleia2> great!
[08:18] <philipballew> for sure.
[08:19] <philipballew> pleia2 might get some of this in her "Welcome to San Diego Ubuntu Hour Swag pack"
[08:19] <pleia2> I have both books
[08:19] <pleia2> publisher sent "made easy" and jono gave me the community book at oscon
[08:20] <pleia2> still need to review "made easy" but life went crazy busy :\
[08:21] <philipballew> pleia2, I have to review that to. college got in the way. Ironically I gave my copy to my mom...
[08:21] <pleia2> heh :P
[08:22] <philipballew> They'll sell more with the title they have.
[08:22] <philipballew> not the old one.
[08:22] <pleia2> for sure
[22:52] <bkerensa> pleia2: have you tried the netflix ppa on xubuntu?
[22:53] <pleia2> bkerensa: no, I haven't tried it at all