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escottSierraAR_Web, if you hover over the exclamation mark does it say anything00:00
escottSierraAR_Web, that could be your swap but it should say its swap00:00
SierraAR_Webescott: Nothing when I hover. But when I go to information, it says unable to detect file system00:00
d4rkh4nd8Having a issue connecting my ipod touch 4. I get these mesg (Location is already mounted)  and   Unhandled Lockdown error (-17)00:01
escottSierraAR_Web, my guess is that was meant to be swap but got broken00:01
escottSierraAR_Web, you might see if there is an entry in the main systems fstab for it, and if not mkswap it, and add it to the fstab00:02
escottSierraAR_Web, but clearly not crucial since you havent noticed00:02
SierraAR_Webescott: I have no idea what fstab would be00:02
SierraAR_WebHavent noticed any issues with anything in regards to system errors or performance00:02
blackshirt!fstab00:03
SierraAR_WebIs it normal that the partition I just created has 66MB used?00:03
ubottuThe /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions00:03
d4rkh4nd8Anyone know how to connect ipod touch to pc using ubuntu ?00:03
SierraAR_Webblackshirt: thanks00:04
thekkidd4rkh4nd8: to do what?00:04
SierraAR_WebI'm going to bounce back to using the HDD, brb00:04
Wolowitzpt br ?00:13
jrib!pt | Wolowitz00:13
ubottuWolowitz: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigado.00:13
mrpostmancan anyone help me?00:17
jrib!ask | mrpostman00:17
ubottumrpostman: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience00:17
mrpostmanI cant seem to get ubuntu to fine my parallel port00:19
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alouwa #evilzone00:23
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SierraARYay it worked00:24
d4rkh4nd8Anyone able to help me mount my ipod touch PLEASE !00:26
gogetabo00:29
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SierraARThanks escott00:30
DakeechHello, I am experiencing a bug with my audio when I play Youtube videos. It randomly mutes and unmutes by itself. Any help would be appreciated.00:45
MK``Where's the force kill program in 11.10?00:51
jribMK``: use kill, pkill, or xkill00:51
locksterDakeech: Hello, I'm not sure what could cause that, but you could try this: http://mylinuxnotebook.blogspot.com.ar/2008/11/ubuntu-810-flash-sound-problem.html00:51
isoman2kxhow do I run FSCK from a ubuntu cd?00:53
isoman2kxkeeps asking me for a password00:53
isoman2kxlol00:53
xangualockster: doubt a post from 3 years ago is helpful :P00:54
xangua4 years ago :P00:54
isoman2kxhmm?>00:55
LachezarHey all... My Ubuntu Server LTS upgrade went rather well, but I broke /etc/sudoers trying to migrate it.00:56
isoman2kxhow to run FSCK in ubuntu CD?00:56
LachezarI can not start the recovery console from GRUB: it just boots the default configuration, and does not allow me to select boot options: How do I run the recovery console, or add parameters to the kernel with this GRUB?00:57
Lachezarisoman2kx: Boot the CD, open a console and execute 'fsck /dev/whatever'00:57
localpython KeyError??? http://bpaste.net/show/sb4kloHDkzZvf6jsro15/             https://github.com/jmunsch/markov_manifestos/blob/master/markov/markovgen.py00:58
insecticidehaving trouble installing i tunes on ubuntu 10.04 using wine any Ideas ?01:00
LachezarArgh... NVM. Holding SHIFT made it pop the boot menu, but I needed a few tries (since I only have KVM).01:02
jribLachezar: that's strange that recovery mode would not run recovery mode.  Did you check what the grub line actually looks like?  ANyway, you can try ... oh ok01:02
[Saint]Does anyone have a suggestion as to what I may be able to do to debug why my machine refuses to wake from hibernate in 12.10 64 bit, but will with 12.10 32 bit?01:02
MK``jrib thank you01:02
[Saint]Running a 32 bit distro for the sake of hibernation really isn't an option.01:02
xyzone[Saint], is it a desktop?01:03
[Saint]xyzone: correct.01:03
xyzone[Saint], many are just buggy01:04
xyzonewith suspend01:04
[Saint]I managed to get suspend to play nice, but hibernation just refuses to do its thing.01:04
[Saint]previous, without some poking, suspend failed also.01:04
[Saint]*previously01:05
xyzoneI never hibernate so can't help, sorry01:05
[Saint]Fair enough, I realize it's disabled, likely for a good reason...but, it'd be nice to have.01:06
[Saint]things that don't work when they theoretically should annoy me.01:06
[Saint](and lots of others, I imagine)01:06
xyzoneI guess hibernation sucks that bad01:06
Lachezarjrib: I wasn't able to start the recovery mode, since it booted and did not allow me to choose. It's *VERY* hard to hold SHIFT over a KVM. You have to press it in a specific time after the RAID controller boots :-/01:06
jribLachezar: you can edit the grub line to include init=/bin/bash or boot a live cd.  I don't know if either of these things is possible for you.  Obviously, for the first you still need to hold shift...01:08
[Saint]The thing that bug me is that, as far as I'm aware at least, 32 bit vs 64 bit arch shouldn't make a lick of difference to hibernation.01:08
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Lachezarjrib: Hah :) Try doing that with /etc/sudoers broken :)01:08
jribLachezar: ah, I meant at the grub screen, you can edit the line there01:08
krabadorhi people, i need help to install nvidia-173 on ubuntu 12.1001:09
xyzone64 bit is different01:09
Lachezarjrib: I wasn't able to open the GRUB screen. It would just skip... But holding SHIFT at the right time did the job: I was able to run in recovery mode.01:09
jribLachezar: k, cool01:09
Lachezarjrib: Some 'smart' guy thought adding '#includedir' to /etc/sudoers would be very fine... Really! I just 'de-commented' it... Hence I broke sudo... Funny... NOT!01:10
jribLachezar: you should always use visudo :)01:11
LachezarAll is well when it ends well...01:11
Lachezarjrib: You're right... It's just that these things tend to come up *AFTER* one has broken it.01:11
ForSparePartsWhat program would you guys recommend for downloading youtube videos under Ubuntu? I tried youtube-dl, but it doesn't seem to work.01:12
jribForSpareParts: what ubuntu version?  youtube-dl works fine here on 12.1001:13
Thama01:13
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almoxarifeForSpareParts: look at 'minitube'01:18
BassoPTAnyone gay herà.01:19
BassoPTHere?01:19
ar9how can i add the mist icons to ubuntu?01:19
ar9or the whatever the fedora defualt blue icons are01:19
d4rkh4nd8need help mounting ipod please01:20
almoxarife!ipod01:20
ubottuFor information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - For the iPhone and the iPod Touch, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod01:20
BassoPTI need some booty,...male booty01:20
TheLordOfTimeBassoPT, that's not on topic here, please stop.  If you have an Ubuntu support question, feel free to ask it, otherwise please stop.01:21
BassoPTUbuntu means gay action in my language01:22
linuxieusWhat is your language?01:22
linuxieuslol01:22
BassoPTStratamaru, I'm from Gana, but I live in Spain01:23
SierraARUbuntu means Ubuntu in my language01:23
TheLordOfTime!offtopic01:23
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!01:23
ar9how can install fedora blue icon pack in ubuntu?01:23
BassoPTSo if I go to Ubuntu-off tipoff I can askmfor man on man sex?01:24
linuxieuslol... behave BassoPT ;)01:25
* [Saint] is somewhat disturbed by the sheer amount of people that seem to use IRC as a substitute for a search engine...01:25
Crshmananyone know why the bootdegraded=true kernel param would be ignored?01:26
CrshmanI have it set in my grub boot options but when I fire up the machine it catches a degraded array and drops into busy box01:26
Lachezar[Saint]: Well... Search engines are increasingly 'ad-engines', and it requires substantial dzhu-tsu to actually grt something sensible out :(01:26
Crshmaneven though I'm telling the server to continue the boot process01:26
[Saint]Lachezar: that's really no excuse, though.01:27
Lachezar[Saint]: It is in my book :-/01:29
[Saint]Is your book called "How to waste the time of others"? :P01:29
SierraARLachezar, I usually have no trouble finding useful information on google01:29
LachezarSierraAR: Tc :-/ I usually end up giving up on finding -it- on google around page 3 or 4.01:30
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Lachezar[Saint], SierraAR: don't get me wrong... I still do Google before I ask, but I end up asking someone instead in 50-50.01:31
[Saint]Lachezar: Yeah, don't get me wrong either...If you're at least attempting to find the information yourself first, then you're not the target group I was referring to.01:32
Lachezar[Saint]: Point taken.01:33
CrshmanI have the the bootdegraded=true kernel param set in my grub boot options but when I fire up the machine it catches a degraded array and drops into busy box, any ideas why?01:33
thekkidDoes anyone have a problem with chrome and fullscreen youtube sometimes?01:33
almoxarifethekkid: what problem?01:34
xyzonethekkid, all the time01:34
Lachezarthekkid: Are you using the HTML-5 version of YouTube? I've had lots of problems... Had to switch to the flash-version.01:34
thekkidLachezar: no it's flash01:34
thekkidLachezar: and it works some times and sometimes it doesn't01:34
xyzoneflash is terrible01:34
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xyzonetoo bad html5 isn't much better01:34
thekkidxyzone: agreed01:34
[Saint]If it's 64 bit, then, yeah...I have problems with stuttering fullscreen flash sometimes.01:34
thekkid[Saint]: any fix?01:35
[Saint]flash needs to hurry up and die.01:35
xyzoneflash is a movie monster, it will never die01:35
Lachezarthekkid: Well... I end up opening a console and killing the plugin-container (when using FF though).01:35
SierraARI've not come across any issues using full screen youtube on ubuntu 12.04 64bit01:35
[Saint]thekkid: switching to a 32 bit distro...so, yeah, in most cases, not really much of an option.01:35
SierraARThis is using firefox01:35
thekkidokay01:36
xyzonewhy can't html5 implement vdpau?01:36
[Saint]for <insert_reason_here> 32 bit flash is a *lot* better than 64 bit.01:36
thekkiddevelopment time01:36
[Saint]But, yeah, agreed. The sooner HTML5 takes off, the better.01:36
xyzonerecently the 64 bit version is about as good as the 32 bit, that is, not very01:36
[Saint]xyzone: it's still not /quite/ there, but, recently 64 bit flash has made some huge improvements.01:37
xyzone[Saint], too bad the development is dead, just maintenance at this point01:38
gogetawake up01:39
[Saint]It's a sad case of something that could've been *soooooo* good, but it's crushed by the monster that is flash and sites that simply won't stop using it.01:39
[Saint]I'd still like to believe that one day it will be.01:39
xyzonecrushed by adobe01:39
gogeta[Saint]: that becouse webm suck compared to h264 flash01:40
[Saint]Not so much Adobe as the developers that refuse to stop using it in their applications/sites/whatever.01:40
xyzonewell I mean flash was crushed by adobe01:40
[Saint]Ahhhh, yes, indeed.01:40
thekkid5 years it'll be gone01:42
thekkidmainly thanks to apple and google inadvertently with mobile01:42
xyzonereplaced by what01:42
gogetathekkid: they said that 5 years ago01:42
xyzonehtml5 still sucks01:42
[Saint]that said that 5 years ago...01:42
[Saint]haha, snap.01:42
thekkidI didn't say replaced01:43
thekkidI said gone01:43
gogetathe big hold back on h=html5 video is they can insert ads like flash01:43
xyzoneneeds a replacement01:43
gogetacant01:43
xyzonethey can with javascript01:44
thekkidEasily avoidable01:44
xyzonesame with flash01:44
gogetaand not inside the vid01:44
strat1227hello all01:45
xyzonebut you're right that's the reason html5 isn't still used on youtube instead of flash01:45
gogetayoutube has html 501:45
xyzonehow ironic that chromebooks can't watch youtube videos with ads01:45
xyzoneyes, but it's only optional, and ad videos don't work01:45
gogetayou need to turn it on01:45
xyzoneI tested it myself the other day at best buy01:46
strat1227Is this the proper place to ask some basic support questions for ubuntu 12.10?01:46
escottstrat1227, yes01:46
heathjsso... webgl works in firefox and google-chrome... not chromium... but the desktop doesn't have support for opengl...01:46
heathjshalp!01:46
strat1227thanks escott01:47
strat1227I just installed on an HP Pavilion dv6000, and the "Dash Home" crashes my computer for some reason01:47
klyncstrat1227: what happens when it "crashes"?01:48
gogetaxyzone: yea gogle thought webm was the second coming of god but nedding twice the cpu and twice the size killed that idea and everyone stuck with h26401:48
strat1227When I open it it's really really glitchy, and if I leave it open for more than 3 seconds or so everything locks up entirely and shuts down01:48
escottheathjs, what is the output of "glxinfo | grep -i renderer" and glxinfo | grep -i vendor01:48
strat1227"glitchy" means the display has lines all across it, font is unreadable, images don't display, etc01:48
gogetaxyzone: html 5 can do that01:48
strat1227this is right out of the box01:48
xyzonewebm was only done to press the h264 patent holders01:48
xyzonegogeta, can do what01:48
heathjsescott: OpenGL renderer string: GeForce 210/PCIe/SSE201:49
gogetaxyzone: can do h265 video01:49
gogetah26401:49
xyzonegogeta, yeah but only on chrome01:49
* Dr_willis waits for h26601:49
heathjsescott: two graphics cards01:49
escottheathjs, and the vendor01:49
heathjsnvidia01:50
heathjsboth of them01:50
strat1227as such it's quite difficult to launch anything that's not already pinned to the launcher01:50
gogetaxyzone: well not only chrome heh as long as you have something like vlc with the broswer plugins it will work on anythung01:50
heathjshttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1406288/01:50
gogetaxyzone: or god help us flash01:50
escottheathjs, the output of glxinfo | grep -i vendor said nvidia and not nouveau or mesa?01:50
xyzonegogeta, plugins? kind of defeats the purpose01:50
heathjscorrect01:50
heathjsi installed the proprietary drivers earlier01:50
escottheathjs, ok. then im not sure why it would not be working "in the desktop" in what way is it not working01:51
heathjsnot transparency...01:51
gogetaxyzone: naa its all a plugin its just weather they package it or not01:51
xyzonegogeta, html5 is not a plugin01:52
klyncstrat1227: after you login the usual way, try to get a text console by doing ctrl-alt-f1 ... login there and do `grep EE /var/log/X.org.0.log`01:52
gogetaxyzone: no but h264 is01:52
heathjssystemsettings -> desktop effects -> "Desktop effects are not available on this system due to the following technical issues: Required X extensions (XComposite and XDamage) are not available."01:52
xyzonegogeta, no it's not when it's in chrome01:52
gogetaxyzone: chromes intergrated ffmpeg codecs01:53
xyzonegogeta, which they pay royalties for01:53
escottheathjs, thats a strange error message. can you apt-get install libxdamage1 libxcomposite1 and verify those are installed01:53
escottheathjs, you can also try grep -i damage /var/log/Xorg.0.log01:54
Crshmanhow do I get the current console resolution?01:55
gogetaCrshman: xrander?01:55
Crshmanno gui01:55
strat1227_hello sorry, i tried screenshotting the issue and it crashed again01:55
Crshmangogeta: let me try it01:55
strat1227_if anyone replied please repeat it01:55
heathjsescott: [    50.446] (II) Initializing built-in extension DAMAGE01:55
Lukewhen I plug in my external USB drive, it mounts as read only. how can I fix that?01:56
gogetaCrshman: probly ot there if no gui01:56
Crshmanah yeah, that command doesn't exist and it looks like it's part of the x11 suite01:56
heathjsinstalling libxdamage and libxcomposite caused something to be installed... it said they were both at the latest versions already01:56
heathjsa new nvidia-experimental-310-310.14 dkms file was installed01:57
heathjsguess i might restart now...01:57
gogetaCrshman: lol i know how to set it but not simply view it01:57
Crshmansame01:57
Crshmani know what I need to add to my grub config but I want to know what it's currently set at haha01:58
gogetaCrshman: sudo hwinfo --framebuffer01:58
gogetaCrshman: it probly will be using the largest one avable01:58
Dr_willisLuke,  what filesystem is on the hard drive?01:59
LukeDr_willis: ext401:59
Dr_willisLuke,  then you need to use the normal chown/chmod commands to set the proper ownership and permissions02:00
Crshmangogeta: sweet thanks! that worked!02:00
LukeDr_willis: they're set fine on the drive fs. I think it's the mountpoint that's being created as root that's the problem02:01
gausieHi all. I ran "startx -- /usr/bin/Xdmx :1 +xinerama -display :0.0 -display localhost:10.0 -norender -noglxproxy" over SSH on my 12.10 machine. What I was trying to do didn't work. I restarted my computer and now it won't get past the log-in screen - it just bounces me back. What do I do?02:01
LukeDr_willis: I'm not sure how that mount point is being created or why, when I take a user action, it's created as root02:01
escottLuke, try fscking the disk. it could be failing into ro mode. also check dmesg to see if that mentions an errors with that drive02:01
Lukeescott: tried that - the disc is fine02:02
Dr_willisLuke,   you could make a fstab entry for it. and mount it by hand. or chown.chmod the mount point AFTER its mounted. that would set the permssions for the 'root' of the filesystem02:02
gausie(this is running it as per these instructions: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOzRCBGDVaE from a client that is still working - it's the server which isn't working)02:02
LukeDr_willis: right I don't want to mess with system files. I just want it to work straight away02:02
Dr_willisLuke,  as far as i know the permissions of the mountpoint BEFOR its mounted does not matter.  the permissions of the mountpoint after its mounted are defined by the 'root' of the filesystems permissions02:02
LukeDr_willis: when I plug a USB key in it works fine02:02
escottLuke, what are the permissions on the mountpoint02:03
Dr_willisLuke,  and what FS is on the key?02:03
Lukethe mointpoint is created on the fly when I plug it in02:03
LukeDr_willis: probably fat3202:03
Dr_willisLuke,  thats why then..02:03
Dr_willisfat/ntfs re handled differntly02:03
Lukeescott: permissions on the mountpoint are root 70002:03
escottLuke, that would do it. it should be root 77702:03
dopiwan-hello, I'm having trouble with video drivers.  I was running vesa ones okay and tried to install nvidia-current and now everytime X tries to load my system crashes.02:04
Lukeescott: I didn't make the mountpoint. it's created on the fly02:04
Lukeescott: that's the problem02:04
dopiwan-I've uninstalled the nvidia drivers and replaced the Driver "vesa" in my 10-monitor.conf and now when X loads it says "vesa: Ignoring device with a bound kernel driver"02:04
escottLuke, is this 12.10 or 12.0402:04
Luke12.1002:04
escottLuke, and what is the mountpoint02:05
Lukeescott: /media/username/external02:05
escottLuke, but it is the username of the logged in user02:05
Lukeyes02:06
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escottLuke, but /media/username/external is root:root 700. thats weird02:06
Lukeescott: yeah02:06
Lukeescott: and when I unmount, those dirs go away02:07
Lukethey're created dynamically02:07
Lukemedia obviously still exists though02:07
escottDr_willis, i've never been clear on this point of permissions. The root inode of external has a permission, and the inode /media/username/external will have a permission, and they get bound together in some way when mounted. is it possible that one could be wrong but the other ok?02:07
Dr_willisescott,  as far as i know.seen the permissiosn of /media/whattever   BEFOR the fs is mounted does not matter - its 'overridden' by the permissions of the fs being mounted02:08
escottDr_willis, so the root inode of the external replaces the inode of the mountpoint02:08
Dr_willisthis is just what ive 'seen' never really seen it documented02:08
Dr_willisescott,  yep. Makes sence to me.02:08
escottLuke, ^^^ that would indicate that the root inode of the external is incorrect and a sudo chown/chmod should be a permanent fix02:09
Lukeit's created dynamically02:09
Lukeit doesn't exist until it's mounted02:09
Dr_willisif i want a user to have FULL access to a exernal ext2/3/4 - i mount  it. then chown the mountpoint. :)02:09
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Dr_willisChange it AFTER its mounted the first time.. and it should stay that way Luke02:09
Dr_willisthe actual mountpoint wont matter02:09
Lukeit doesn't make sense from a usability standpoint that if I plug in a drive, I have to run commands to write to it....02:10
escottLuke, there are two inodes involved. one for the mountpoint /media/username/external the other for the root of the external (if the external was bootable the inode that would be / when it was booted)02:10
blackshirtwew02:10
LukeDr_willis: I'll try that02:10
Dr_willisLuke,  again. You do it ONCE.. and then afterwards it will rember the owner/permissions02:10
Dr_willisUntill you move it to a differnt pc. ;)02:10
Lukegot it02:10
Lukei'll try that02:10
escottLuke, for an external root:root 777 makes good sense02:10
Dr_willisit would be the same if you were mounting it via fstab, or by hand.02:11
LukeDr_willis: the problem is with the username dir, not the base mount point itself: /media/username/extenral... in this case username has incorrect permissions02:12
LukeDr_willis: and that's created by the system when I mount the drive by plugging it in02:12
LukeDr_willis: so it has nothing to do with the drive02:12
escottLuke, /media/username is root:root 700?02:12
escottLuke, that would make it impossible for you to even see /media/username/external02:13
Dr_willisas far as i know.. THe permisisons of the mountpoint do NOT matter befor the drive is mounted.02:13
LukeDr_willis: in other words, it's not the root of the drive that's incorrect, it's the parent dir to the mountpoint that's incorrect02:13
d4gg3rhey guys, I am using ps2pdf to convert a eps graph to a pdf one. But it puts it in a page with the graph at its end. can anybody help me make it produce an output with just the graph?02:13
LukeDr_willis: yeah it's the folder that is created to /contain/ the moint point that's incorrect02:13
Dr_willis would seem odd that other disks are getting mounted to /media/BILLGATES correctly02:13
Dr_willisand one is not.02:13
Dr_willissounds like a bug if the permissions of the fs are propagateing upward. ;)02:14
escottd4gg3r, "graph at its end" what did you expect?02:14
LukeDr_willis: my USB keys are not mounted there.... wierd02:14
Lukeweird*02:14
d4gg3rescott,  I expected a pdf just like the eps file from gnuplot output02:14
Dr_willis the whole /media/ vs /media/user/ is a new feature in 12.10 i think. Ive never really noticed any issues with it.. other then the confusion its caused02:14
d4gg3rescott,  just the graph with no extra margins02:14
escottd4gg3r, and how is what you are getting different from that02:15
Dr_williscould be more NTFS vs Ext  differances inhow the system works02:15
d4gg3rescott,  just running ps2pdf 1.eps02:15
escottd4gg3r, the "e" in eps means that it has a bounding box. pdf has a standard page dimension (set by your locale preference usually A4 or letter). there will be a margin02:16
LukeDr_willis: yeah it seems to be incorrectly setting up permissions on the user dir unfortunately02:16
gausiecan noone help me with my log in issue?02:16
escottgausie, what is the issue02:17
LukeDr_willis: drwxr-x---+  3 root root   -- that's the actual permissions it creates the user dir with02:17
Lukewhich seems useless02:17
Dr_willisLuke,  im not on a ubuntu box so i cant double check mine.02:17
gausieescott: thanks for responding. I've posted the question to askubuntu, so better to read the detail there http://askubuntu.com/questions/224816/tried-to-use-xdmx-and-now-i-cant-log-in02:17
gausieescott: I'm asking on here too because its quite urgent02:17
escottLuke, not sure who should own that, but it certainly shouldnt be 75502:17
Dr_willisgausie,  for starters try deleteing the .Xauthority file02:18
LukeDr_willis: actually you know what... it's working now. you were right about chowning the mointpoint02:18
LukeDr_willis: the user dir's permissions are OK i think02:18
Dr_willisLuke,  if its owned by the user.. and the permisisons get 'applied' to the parrents.. then that would make sence. ;)02:18
gausieDr_willis: I don't have one (did updatedb and a locate and found nothing)02:18
LukeDr_willis: yeah it's totally fixed now. thanks02:18
Dr_willisgausie,  look in the users home dir? try making a new user. see if affects them..  see if the guest user has issues..02:19
Dr_willisgausie,  its also possible some other files in the users home are owned by root by mistake.02:19
gausieDr_willis: I can get into the guest user! So what do I do to get me back into mine? Thanks so far!02:19
Dr_willisgausie,  test with making a new user. or with the problem user. ive just made a OLDHOME dir in their home and moved everything into it. so i had a clean 'home'  and tested if logging in worked.02:20
doctorpepperhi guys.02:20
Dr_willisif a new/clean/home worked.. that points to a user setting/file being the issue.02:20
qualiawhy does Urxvt daemon (urxvtd -q -o -f) startup with <root> AND THEN <user> two times ?02:21
escottgausie, try "find $HOME -uid 002:21
escottgausie, see if that prints anything out02:21
Dr_willisescott,  ;) i was just googling to find that command.. ;P02:21
escottDr_willis, surprisingly hard to find was expecting -owner not -uid02:21
doctorpeppercan anyone please help me ,  i am trying to run teamfortress 2  on 12.04  but i keep having  a black screen  when i start it02:22
gausieescott: hahaha .Xauthority is here it turns out02:22
SloofusPepper isn't that still beta?02:22
gausieescott: just didnt show before02:23
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escottgausie, files beginning with "." are hidden from normal listings02:23
doctorpepperSloofus: yes , but i seems that  people are playing it . but i can figure out why  it doesnt work  for me02:24
remuI'm looking for a command line utility that will organize mp3s in a specific naming convention.02:24
gausieescott Dr_willis: fixed! thanks all for the help02:24
escottDr_willis, yeah the mount does replace the inode http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r11/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.zos.r11.bpxb200/happens.htm02:24
remuSo far the solutions I've found tend to focus on wole albums rather than single songs.02:24
remuAny recomendations?02:24
Sloofusdoctorpepper: a black screen sounds like display issues but I'm not experienced enough to really know02:25
c2tarunis gTalk app also available for Ubuntu?02:25
escottremu, the problem is identifying a single song is much harder than identifying an album02:25
xanguac2tarun: you can use google talk with empathy02:25
remuI don't neccessarily need it identified. I was hoping something that would read the id3 tag, and then move it to my music library02:25
dopiwan-hello, I'm having trouble with video drivers.  I was running vesa ones okay and tried to install nvidia-current and now everytime X tries to load my system crashes.02:26
dopiwan-I've uninstalled the nvidia drivers and replaced the Driver "vesa" in my 10-monitor.conf and now when X loads it says "vesa: Ignoring device with a bound kernel driver"02:26
remuput it in the right place, and rename it accordingly02:26
gausieDr_willis: one02:26
c2tarunxangua, I am using pidgin right now. But the thing is if I want to ping any of my friends who is offline then I can't. In gTalk if we ping them, they'll get the ping on coming online.02:26
gausieDr_willis: whoops, that was a mistake. Thanks again :P02:26
doctorpepperSloofus: i have seens  something  in the valve linux forum  saying something about updating the drivers from a ppa  but when i tried  to upgrade the driver  it fails02:26
dopiwan-can anyone help me with this?02:26
escottremu, you could use any of the identifying apps without the identification. i cant think of a cli variant though02:26
Sloofusdoctorpepper: what card do you have?02:27
dinosaurvskittenwhat's a good linux sound server that has an android client? I'm trying to find something that will basically allow me to tune into my computer's speakers with my cell phone so I can use it as wireless headphones.02:27
new-volumecriscoinverted02:27
doctorpepperintel02:27
remuescott, I was hoping for a cli variant so I can run it on my server, and possibly as a cron job02:27
doctorpepperSloofus: Intel02:27
SloofusIntel integrated?02:27
doctorpepperyes02:27
SloofusGood luck...02:28
xanguadinosaurvskitten: i just turn on bluethooth in my phone and set it as audio exit :)02:28
doctorpepperSloofus:  is it a problem02:28
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Sloofusdoctorpepper: Those cards are utter shite for gaming to begin with. You need a dedicated card.02:29
SloofusAti or nvidia02:29
SloofusK folks I'm in a pickle. I'm on my phone so sorry for delayed responses. I'm away on business and can't seem to register an internet connection on my lappy. Plugged straight in and eth0 is up. Ubuntu 12.04. Thoughts?02:30
doctorpepperwell TF2 i an old game so it should be no problem to run it on a laptop with intel graphics02:30
dinosaurvskittenxangua: ah, good idea. My workstation doesn't have bluetooth support, but I suppose I could get a usb adapter02:30
moon`Hey I haven't used this computer since 2010, I just plugged it back in and got everything working, what would be the best way to go about updating it to a current version of ubuntu?02:30
designbybeckUbuntu on the new Yoga Lenovo? http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Lenovo+-+Yoga+IdeaPad+Ultrabook+13.3%22+Touch-Screen+Laptop+-+4GB+Memory+-+Silver/6634279.p?id=1218767481156&skuId=663427902:31
xangua!ot | designbybeck02:31
ubottudesignbybeck: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!02:31
jrib!upgrade | moon`02:32
ubottumoon`: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade02:32
moon`many thanks jrib02:33
SloofusAnyone care to assist me in gaining inlet access on my Acer aspire one 722? Eth0 isn't 'just working' like it normally does...02:33
SloofusInet *02:33
escottSloofus, you at a hotel?02:34
SloofusYessir02:34
SloofusOr maam02:35
escottSloofus, often those are captive networks, and you have to go through some kind of registration process02:35
escottSloofus, usually going to any website will redirect you, if not call down to the front desk and ask how to register your computer02:35
Sloofusescott: but I should at least register an IP right?02:35
mehworkwhenever i touch the right edge of my right monitor my mouse *always* gets messed up, until i refresh my screen or drag my mouse off the screen and back on. Any idea why? This only happens in unity02:35
escottSloofus, they deny outbound connections and capture and redirect all traffic to their servers until you pay02:36
escottSloofus, i would think you would have an ip but everyone does it differently so maybe they want you to do it differently02:36
Sloofusescott: free inet access. No regging on my smartphone required, lappy isn't pulling an IP at all02:37
escottSloofus, you can try and manually run dhclient02:37
KI4ROAnyone know how to make xset settings permanent?02:37
SloofusSudo dhclient eth0?02:37
escottSloofus, sure. but even with free they often still want you to plug in your room number so they can disconnect you when your stay is over (and so you dont sit in the lobby after you checkout)02:38
Sloofusescott: negative. Just verified with coworker that he did not need to register anything02:39
Sloofusescott: he's a windows user02:39
BustacapI have a non ubuntu related question. Will my clothes get somewhat clean if I put them through the washer with no detergent, I ran out and am out of clean clothes and have my first day at a new job tomorrow!02:39
Sloofusescott: sudo dhclient eth0 is hanging.... that's not comforting.02:40
xangua!ot | Bustacap iy you know is not related, you don't :)02:41
ubottuBustacap iy you know is not related, you don't :): #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!02:41
Bustacap:P02:41
SloofusTo recap if anyone has any ideas: Acer aspire one 722 w/ Ubuntu 12.04 can't register an IP address at my hotel. No pre-registration is required at my location.02:43
SloofusEth1 also doesn't seem to be able to pick up any access points02:44
Sloofus(WiFi)02:44
escottSloofus, check rfkill02:45
Sloofusescott: what args to pass?02:46
escottSloofus, rfkill list eth102:46
escottSloofus, or list all02:46
SloofusWeird...02:47
SloofusOh nvm02:47
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Sloofusescott: rfkill list all shows 2 wireless LANs neither are hard or soft blocked02:48
escottSloofus, anyways dhclient isnt going to do anything for wifi until you associate with the AP. i thought you were hard wired02:48
Justin_jtb7rmvubuntu are you here tomorrow?02:48
Sloofusescott: I'm trying both02:48
Sloofusescott: let's stick to hardwired for the time being, no?02:49
escottSloofus, usually that works better02:49
SharyariHi. Since upgrading to 12.10, my laptop doesn't recognize any usb devices (webcam, usb, phone). I can't find a trace of them anywhere when I plug them in (lsusb, dmesg). Any ideas?02:50
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escottSharyari, that would suggest your kernel is missing a driver for your usb bus02:51
Sharyariescott: I've been trying to modprobe some stuff before, don't remember what, but nothing seemed to work. What should be loaded do you think?02:52
Sharyariescott: lsmod | grep usb gives me nothing, so you're definetly right :)02:53
escottSharyari, i have no idea. other than usbhid but thats not the controller that is for hid devices. to have the kernel not contain a controller for a usb bus would be a major regression02:53
escottSloofus, so what is your "ifconfig" output right now02:54
usr13Sharyari: You might try modprobe usb_storage and see what that does.02:54
escottSharyari, does lsusb show anything?02:54
gotenkshey guys, I need to remove old kernels. I deleted them manually in nautilus but they still show up in grub. and they don't show up in synaptic, how can I solve this?02:54
Sharyarinope02:54
escottSharyari, lsusb should ALWAYS show the root hub. if it doesn't...02:55
Sloofusescott: showing eth0 and... eth0:avahi?02:55
Sloofusescott: displays usual info except ip02:55
escottgotenks, you can apt-get remove linux-kernel-versionnumber02:55
Sharyariusr13: load correctly, but doesn't detect anything02:56
escottgotenks, like sudo apt-get remove linux-image-3.5.0-17-generic02:56
gotenkseven if they are not visible on synaptic? and I removed them manually on nautilus, somehow they still show up though02:56
Sloofusescott: but eth0:avahi shows nothing under "up broadcast multicast" etc02:56
Sharyariescott: yeah, it shows the root hub. But nothing on them02:56
escottgotenks, so you can dpkg -l "*linux*" and pick what to remove and remove it02:56
SloofusPoor escott ... he's being everyone's superman02:57
Sharyari:)02:57
th3pun15h3ranyone had any luck installing ubuntu on a dell inspiron 260002:57
escottSloofus, its hard to say what is going on there02:57
gogetath3pun15h3r: as long as it has enough ram you should be ok02:57
escottSloofus, ive never seen an eth0:avahi device before02:58
Sloofusescott: yeah I'm befuddled...02:58
gotenksescott, see when I use that command, I only see 3.5 images but in grub I have a binch of 2. etc02:58
SharyariIs it worth trying to go back to an earlier kernel?02:58
escottSloofus, but that doesn't mean its bad02:58
Sloofusescott: one moment02:58
OerHeksSharyari, try " update grub" from cli02:58
escottSharyari, so the root hub is there, but hotplugging does not generate anything in dmesg02:58
Sharyariescott: correct02:58
OerHeksSharyari, err "update-grub "02:59
escottSharyari, at the grub prompt you can pick the older kernel02:59
escottSharyari, if grub is not appearing you can hit shift or esc or something02:59
zykotick9escott: hold shift for grub202:59
usr13gotenks: compare 'ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image*list' with uname -a  and do apt-get remove linux-image-x, y, and z accept for  the one you use now.03:00
SharyariOk, I'll be back soon with the results :)03:00
escottzykotick9, im not likely to remember what key it is... one of the ones on the left...03:00
cfhowlettgotenks: sudo update grub03:00
gotenkscfhowlett: /usr/sbin/grub-mkconfig: 11: /etc/default/grub: splash”: not found03:01
gotenksthat's the return on that command03:01
gotenksI'm sorry to bother you guys, but I really don't know how to do this and my boot partition is full03:01
cfhowlettgotenks: sudo update grub should fix it03:02
gotenksI just did it and it said this: /usr/sbin/grub-mkconfig: 11: /etc/default/grub: splash”: not found03:02
escottcfhowlett, update-grub isn't going to help him that much03:02
escottgotenks, it sounds like you have a typo on line 11 of /etc/default/grub03:02
gotenkslet me check03:03
escottgotenks, what is preventing you from "ls /boot; sudo apt-get remove linux-image-3.#.#-##-generic"03:03
cfhowlettescott: no?  OK.  I seemed to recall that update grub would reflect changes such as altered grub rosters.  My mistake.03:03
usr13th3pun15h3r: What kind of problem are you having?03:04
escottcfhowlett, it will but his problem is the thing was full and he needs to remove kernels03:04
escottcfhowlett, and he is removing them incorrectly03:04
gotenksescott the issues are not the 3.etc kernels, problem is all the 2.etc kernels, which are not displayed when I use the command ls03:04
escottgotenks, dpkg -l "*linux*" will list the ones that dpkg thinks are still installed from 2.# so you can then remove those03:05
escottgotenks, just rm'ing files in /boot will confuse dpkg03:05
gotenkswell, that's what somebody told me to do, it's too late now03:05
usr13gotenks: compare 'ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image*list'03:06
usr13gotenks: ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image*list03:06
escottgotenks, yes but you can unconfuse dpkg by running those commands and dpkg should also fix up your boot menu03:06
gotenksOK, guys,I'm trying to follow you, I'm not too much of an expert, let me run those commands you just told me. thanks!03:07
gotenksI'll let you know how it goes03:07
gotenksusr13: when I run 'ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image*list' this is what happens: bash: ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image*list: No such file or directory03:08
usr13gotenks: That's interesting.03:08
gotenksam I fucked? ahha03:08
Sloofusescott: may have found the issue. Will let ya know. Thanks for your help btw03:09
escottgotenks, what shows up with "ii" on the left with dpkg -l "*linux*"03:09
cfhowlett!language please03:09
escottSloofus, curious what it was03:09
xangua "I removed them manually on nautilus" and that is scary usr13 gotenks03:09
gotenksI guess that was a mistake but two different people told me to do it here03:10
gotenkscause they said those kernels weren't used anyway03:10
Sloofusescott: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-nettool/+question/199450 check the third response from the bottom. I haven't updated or even used this machine in months.03:10
escottgotenks, another thought if you are deleting things with nautilus it may go to trash, and if you have a /boot partition the trash would be in that partition03:10
usr13gotenks: Just use the list you see in grub, compare with uname -a03:10
usr13gotenks: Don't remove the current one.03:11
gotenksusr13but how can I remove them if I don't see them?03:11
SharyariOk, that did not work03:11
viking667hello. I'm trying to downmix a 5.1 or 7.1 to my stereo headphones. I've got Ubuntu 11.10 and a HDA Nvidia chipset, using a Realtek ALC120003:11
Jordan_Ugotenks: Did you fix the error from /etc/default/grub? If not, please pastebin your /etc/default/grub.03:11
Sloofusescott: its very much possible I updated, had the same problem and just said "screw it I'll fix it later"03:11
blunttuuo03:11
viking667What do I need to check first?03:11
escottSloofus, ok03:11
usr13gotenks: Do as gotenks says.  Look in trash.03:11
lcabrezahi guys, whats the equivalent of f-secure in Ubuntu ? how can i use the .ssh file ?03:12
escottlcabreza, what does f-secure do?03:12
gotenksusr13, you mean the regular trash right?03:12
escott!antivirus | lcabreza03:12
ubottulcabreza: Antivirus is something you don't need on !Linux. except where files are then passed to windows computers (perhaps using samba), See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus03:12
escottlcabreza, and i cant tell what you mean by the ".ssh" file03:13
usr13gotenks: Do as escott says.  Look in trash.  Yea, regular trash, irregular trash, what ever ;)03:13
escottgotenks, no it would be roots trash (because you had to be root to delete the kernels)03:13
gotenksit's empty  :/03:13
gotenksah ok hang on03:13
escottgotenks, in general we would strongly discourage running nautilus as root03:14
gotenksyeah I know it's not a great idea but I was kinda desperate03:14
rhin0lol hes doing that escott03:14
usr13gotenks: desperate?  Are you running out of HD space?03:14
gotenksyeah, my boot partition is full03:14
viking667wouldn't surprise m... your WHAT?03:15
gotenksusr13, alright problems keep adding up. went to nautilus as root, can't access trash03:15
viking667oh yeah. most people don't use a separate /boot03:15
rhin0you ran out of disk space?03:15
rhin0things grind to a halt03:15
viking667linux handles that better than Windows does, funnily enough.03:15
gotenksOK, here's an idea, if I reinstall Ubuntu, do I remove the boot partition?03:16
escottgotenks, then check if there is a folder /boot/.Trash or /boot/.trash with "ls -al /boot"03:16
viking667I've had an example where Linux kept on trucking with an IRC client, even after the hard drive had uhm, died.03:16
lcabrezaescott: they have this application on Windows called F-secure ssh client which they download and .ssh file and open it using that application. wondering what can i use for ..03:16
escottlcabreza, the ssh client is just "ssh"03:16
gotenksmight have found it: drwx------  4 root root     1024 Nov 27 00:02 .Trash-003:17
escottgotenks, thats it03:17
viking667yup.03:17
usr13gotenks:  lsb_release -a |pastebinit   #Show us resulting URL03:17
escottgotenks, ls -al /boot/.Trash-003:17
Jordan_Ugotenks: Why did you have a separate /boot/ partition in the first place? If you re-install Ubuntu without using a separate /boot/ partition you should be fine, though that definitely would be overkill and you should make sure that your regular backups are good before re-installing./03:17
cfhowlettgotenks: long shot, but perhaps purging your the saved downloads might help.  Sudo apt-get autoclean and sudo apt-get clean will do that03:18
* viking667 uses a separate /boot so he doesn't toast his system when his root partition goes and fills up.03:18
escottgotenks, if that shows the various linux-image files, just move them back to /boot with "sudo mv /boot/.Trash-0 /boot" and remove them properly03:18
lcabrezaescott:i guess my question would be. how can i use that .ssh file on my terminal instead of using f-secure client03:19
escottcfhowlett, his problem is /boot not the root partition03:19
Justin_jtb7rmv'i need heelp03:19
gotenksescott, ran your command, this is what I see: total 903:20
gotenksdrwx------ 4 root root 1024 Nov 27 00:02 .03:20
gotenksdrwxr-xr-x 5 root root 3072 Dec  1 16:23 ..03:20
gotenksdrwx------ 2 root root 2048 Nov 27 00:02 files03:20
gotenksdrwx------ 2 root root 3072 Nov 27 00:02 info03:20
gotenks 03:20
escottlcabreza, without knowing what is in a ".ssh" file... i cant say03:20
FloodBot1gotenks: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.03:20
Justin_jtb7rmv'i need help03:20
usr13Justin_jtb7rmv: Tell us what your problem is.03:20
escottgotenks, then its in files. "sudo ls /boot/.Trash-0/files"03:20
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escottgotenks, sudo mv /boot/.Trash-0/files/linux-* /boot03:20
gotenksescott,yes! they're there03:21
escottgotenks, another reason not to use nautilus. you didn't even accomplish what you wanted to accomplish03:21
gotenksyeah, I def learned a lesson here03:21
gotenksso wait, I see them in the list, now I just run: sudo mv /boot/.Trash-0/files/linux-* /boot ?03:22
escottgotenks, once you move them back to /boot you can "sudo rm -rf /boot/.Trash-0"03:22
escottgotenks, yes move them first then delete the trash folder03:22
usr13gotenks: nautilus has it's purposes but uninstalling kernels is not one of them.03:22
gotenksOK, let me try, thank you so much for your patience guys03:22
gotenksyou are all awesome03:22
cfhowlettJustin_jtb7rmv: state the problem03:22
viking667using apt would be what I would have done. That or synaptic (or whatever the modern equivalent is now)03:23
Ray2Safest way is to use synaptic then do sudo update-grub03:24
DWSRif I wanted to do "for each item in a folder, move it" and I specifically DIDN'T want to do a batch operation, how would I do it?03:24
escottgotenks, before trying to uninstall things lets look at that /etc/default/grub issue. what is the output of "sed -n "11p" /etc/default/grub"03:24
DWSR(i.e. I specifically wanted to call mv 'item' for each thing as opposed to doing 1 mv *)03:24
WeThePeoplehow do i softblock my wifi03:24
Justin_jtb7rmvtar zxvf filename.tar.gz is not working03:24
escottDWSR, find -exec or | xargs03:24
viking667dwsr; you mean something like: for t in place; do mv ${t} otherplace  ?03:25
DWSRviking667: Yes, thank you03:25
viking667err, place/*03:25
viking667... after all, you're needing the filenames for mv to work with03:25
DWSRyep.03:25
DWSRWill that also move folders?03:25
viking667test out what you need by using "do echo mv ${t} otherplace; done"03:25
viking667hard to say. Should do.03:26
gotenksescott, still trying to move files back. i'll BRB03:26
escottDWSR, and be careful about spaces in filenames.03:26
MarkyCHey all, I'm using the minimal install CD, and after I press enter, I get a blank screen. I think I might need to adjust the video card settings (old laptop) in order to boot. What are the shorthands again? (I think I'm looking for framebuffer settings or similar)03:26
DWSRescott: I'm assuming that bash is going to deal with spaces.03:27
DWSRAnd that I'm not going to have to worry about space in t.03:27
cfhowlett!nomodeset|MarkyC:03:27
ubottuMarkyC:: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter03:27
DWSRs/space in t/spaces in ${t}/03:27
viking667hm. No.03:27
viking667for that, you'd need mv "${t}" otherplace03:28
DWSRoh, heh03:28
escottDWSR, mv ${t} expands to mv foo bar which looks like two moves03:28
viking667thank you for pointing that out.03:28
DWSRSpoiled by PHP I guess.03:28
lcabrezaescott: assuming that its secure. what command shall i use to run the .ssh file ?03:28
viking667don't ever let knowledge from one domain override another domain.03:28
escottDWSR, you should be able to avoid that with find -exec, but you always have to be careful03:28
DWSRviking667: Indeed, however I'm a mostly Windows user.03:28
escottlcabreza, i dont know what the file is. i've never heard of an ssh file03:28
DWSRviking667: Mostly because I game heavily. However with Steam coming to Linux, hopefully that will be less the case.03:29
viking667dwsr: oh gawd. I still remember the time I had to write a batch file that had to know where it resided.03:29
SharyariSo, does anyone have any more ideas on my usb problem? Right now, no usb modules are loaded at start, so that would be an indicator..03:29
escottlcabreza, is it a key? is it instructions on how to connect to some other server? what is it03:29
escottlcabreza, what does "file whatever.ssh" say03:29
DWSRviking667: pwd is your friend.03:29
MarkyCUnless the minimal installer is supposed to show a blank screen?03:29
viking667Uhm, no.03:29
viking667pwd showed me where I was when I started the file off, NOT where the file itself resided.03:30
escott!nomodeset | MarkyC03:30
ubottuMarkyC: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter03:30
DWSRviking667: Err...?03:30
Justin_jtb7rmvtar zxvf filename.tar.gz is not working03:30
viking667yes, the two are often different.03:30
MarkyCescott: yes, I got it, setting that boot param still gives me a blank screen03:30
DWSRviking667: Ah, oh I see. I'm always careful to give it a cwd wherever it resides.03:31
DWSRMostly because I just find it avoids confusion.03:31
MarkyCIn fact, I cannot even bring up tty103:31
DWSRI also don't write batch scripts often.03:31
DWSRAnd hate it with the fury of a thousand suns.03:31
viking667DWSR: and would you have set that cwd separately for every single machine?03:31
mashed-updatahi all, question re Aircrack-ng on Ubuntu 12.10 ... is it still called Aircrack-ng or is it now as my command line suggest ... "iw"?03:32
DWSRviking667: Everything I write is for home use,.03:33
DWSRSo the environment is pretty carefully controlled03:33
viking667heh. I had to write a script that would uhm, live in the wild.03:33
gotenksescott, moved em all and deleted the folder03:33
viking667and the program I was writing it for could live almost anywhere03:33
viking667you probably didn't need to delete the folder.03:33
escottgotenks, sed -n "11p" /etc/default/grub03:33
gotenksresult of the command you told me is: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=”quiet splash”03:34
Justin_jtb7rmv'i need help with setting up unralircd servewr03:34
viking667a ... what?03:34
DWSRunrealircd server.03:34
escottgotenks, that looks fine. maybe the error was somehow related to your deleting things with nautilus03:34
lcabrezaescott:it has some connection details : like windows title, cipher ..03:34
viking667ahh, now THAT I know.03:34
DWSRviking667: ^^03:34
DWSR:)03:34
viking667but I don't know the details.03:34
gotenksescott, cool so how do I get rid of them now?03:34
viking667it's been back in uhm... 2002 since I last tried to run ircd03:34
DWSRviking667: This command is the first step in organizing a 1TB music collection.03:35
escottgotenks, for each kernel in /boot that you want to remove you should be able to sudo apt-get remove linux-image-FULL_VERSION_NUM-generic03:35
viking667Oh. Right.03:35
escottgotenks, you have to keep at least one03:35
DWSRviking667: So yeah.....MusicBrainz Picard!03:35
DWSRAll the days.03:35
MarkyCMore info: I get the "loading linux..... loading initrd....." messages, and the screen then goes black. nomodset doesn't fix this. I'm trying the expert command line install btw03:35
escottlcabreza, i dont know of any tool that can parse that, but if you can read it you can use the computer in your brain03:35
escottlcabreza, probably faster than trying to find a tool to parse that file03:36
escottMarkyC, unfortunately other than... its not working i dont know what to say03:36
Justin_jtb7rmvtar zxvf filename.tar.gz is not working03:36
escott!work | Justin_jtb7rmv03:36
ubottuJustin_jtb7rmv: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.03:36
gotenksescott, like for example: sudo apt-get remove linux-image-2.6.38-10-generic ?03:37
viking667sigh. anyhow, I've not had much luck finding information on making pulseaudio do downmixing03:37
blunttuulol03:37
viking667gotenks: yes.03:37
gotenksperfect!03:37
Jordan_Ugotenks: escott: That line appears to have smart quotes, (”) rather than regular quotes (").03:37
viking667but don't remove your latest03:37
escottJordan_U, good catch03:37
gotenksthat's true Jordan_U!03:37
blunttuuit puts the lotion on its skin or it gets the hose again03:37
Jordan_Ugotenks: Please pastebin your complete /etc/default/grub (you can do this by running "pastebinit /etc/default/grub".03:37
Jordan_U!ot | blunttuu03:37
ubottublunttuu: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!03:37
escottgotenks, never use open office to edit system files03:37
viking667oh GOD no.03:38
gotenksI didn't, something must have went wrong.03:38
viking667If you have to kill a kitten, at least use nano.03:38
gotenksholdon03:38
thebishophey ey03:38
viking667I normally use vim, but others who can't stand vim commonly use emacs, nano, or something else almost entirely textbased03:39
viking667gotenks: what command did you use? Or did you click instead?03:39
escottviking667, gedit is pretty easy to understand for most people03:39
thebishopis the nautilus file chooser busted for anyone else?  I've noticed in SoundConverter and Audacity, I select a folder for open/save and nothing is returned, the dialog just keeps my home folder, which is the default03:39
viking667escott: exactly.03:39
gotenksI used gedit to edit that file03:39
viking667personally, I use gvim/vim, with occasional forays into emacsland03:40
viking667so, you went "gedit somefile" or did you right-click on thefilename and chose "Open with gedit"?03:40
gotenkshonestly I don't remember, I might have copied and pasted it from online and that's how those quotes got there03:41
gotenksI did that last week03:41
viking667sigh.03:41
gotenksescott, OK here my grub: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1406618/03:41
Jordan_Ugotenks: escott: viking667: Many blogging platforms automatically transform quotes in posts to smart quotes, it's a common problem with blog tutorials.03:42
escottgotenks, be careful about stuff like that. fix that up with ascii quotes and then you should be ok03:42
escottgotenks, it looks like its just the one line03:42
Jordan_Ugotenks: Everything but the quotes looks good, so fix that and you should be fine (at least as far as the /etc/default/grub goes).03:43
viking667yes, quite.03:43
escottgotenks, gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub03:43
viking667ahhh yes. I knew I was trying to think of something03:43
gotenksescott, OK, edited.03:44
Justin_jtb7rmvtar: You may not specify more than one `-Acdtrux' or `--test-label' option03:44
Justin_jtb7rmvTry `tar --help' or `tar --usage' for more information.03:44
BustacapNow Playing: Still D.R.E by Dr. Dre from the album Chronic 2001 [Rap]03:44
Bustacapo.O03:44
escottgotenks, also run "file /etc/default/grub" to make sure it says ASCII TEXT03:44
SierraARJust want to note I found an odd bug in ubuntu 12.04 64-bit using cinnamon.. Copying files from my documents folder to the shared ntfs partition I just recently created. When I'm right clicking, the context menu has 'Paste' grayed out, but it still pastes the files when I click it03:44
gotenksescott, yep, ASCII text03:45
viking667Bustacap: then I guess you'd know the song Conscience, by Eminem & Dr Dre03:45
BustacapOf course :P03:45
gotenksescott, so basically now everything is fine as far as the grub in etc/default. how do I get rid of them?03:47
escottgotenks, apt-get remove linux-image-VERSION-generic03:47
gotenksescott, apt-get remove linux-kernel-versionnumber ?03:47
gotenksok thanks!03:47
escottgotenks, it may be easier to run dpkg -l "*linux*" and copy paste the package name from that03:48
escottgotenks, you may also have headers for the old kernels which could also be removed03:48
Justin_jtb7rmvtar: You may not specify more than one `-Acdtrux' or `--test-label' option03:48
escottJustin_jtb7rmv, please paste.ubuntu.com the full terminal session03:49
viking667actually, what was the single line you typed in for tar?03:49
viking667tar xvf somefilename.tar.gz    ?03:49
viking667that's what I use now.03:50
almoxarifeto get headers back do a apt-get of 'linux-headers-generic'03:50
viking667because tar is now erm, smart enough to grab gunzip for itself instead of needing a specific switch (z)03:50
gotenksescott,sorry, i'm a little stuck. I think apt-get remove doesn't work cause those versions don't show up when I type dpkg -l "*linux*03:51
gotenksI think I have to remove all the files I tried to remove on nautilus on terminal. that would work right?03:51
Justin_jtb7rmvubuntu 12.0403:52
escottgotenks, well if dpkg doesn;t think they are installed i suppose you cant make it worse by rm'ing them. sudo rm /boot/linux-image-version-generic03:52
escottgotenks, im worried about what you did to make dpkg forget they were installed03:52
Justin_jtb7rmvi am usingubuntu 12.0403:52
Justin_jtb7rmvi am using ubuntu 12.0403:53
escottgotenks, each kernel comes with a kernel, a system map, an abi a config and an initrd03:53
gotenksescott, I didn't do anything, of this I'm sure. I upgraded to 12.10, actually fresh installed03:53
viking667Justin_jtb7rmv: what language do you normally understand?03:53
gotenksso I should remove all those files for each kernel03:53
escottgotenks, what does appear with "ii" on the left with dpkg -l "*linux*"03:53
gotenkslet me check again03:53
escottgotenks, you should make every effort to remove them with apt-get. even going so far as typing the version number in03:54
almoxarife!synaptic <-- cause sometimes a gui is as sexy03:55
ubottualmoxarife: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)03:55
gotenksescott, just to make sure, here's the result of your latest command: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1406694/03:55
gotenksbut in boot I got a lot of old kernels like System.map-2.6.38-10-generic-pae etc03:55
escottit helps to maximize that terminal, but i don't see any 2.6 version kernels there03:56
escottgotenks, at least try: apt-get remove linux-image-2.6.38-10-generic-pae03:56
blackshirtdpkg -l | grep linux-image-2.603:56
gotenksescott: E: Unable to locate package linux-image-2.6.38-10-generic-pae03:56
gotenksE: Couldn't find any package by regex 'linux-image-2.6.38-10-generic-pae'03:56
blackshirtdpkg -l | grep linux-image-2.6 | grep pae03:57
blackshirtOr similar like this03:57
escottgotenks, you could even try apt-get remove "linux-image-2*" and see if that picks up anything03:57
escottgotenks, not sure why dpkg would lose track of a package like that03:58
almoxarifegotenks: do you have pastebinit installed?03:58
gotenksescott: same error for that command too03:58
blackshirti think you changes your  apt sources.list and miss for update03:59
escottgotenks, i guess just "sudo rm -i /boot/*2.6*" and it will ask you about each file04:00
gotenksescott. OK, I'll do that, I'll let you know how it goes!04:00
almoxarifegotenks: do you konw how to use 'synaptic'?04:01
viking667ummmm, 2.6?04:01
gotenksamoxarife, I do, and I have pastebin04:01
viking667that MUST have been from an earlier release.04:01
almoxarifegotenks: use synaptic, and with it, search for 'linux-image' , that should list all kernels installed or not, you are looking for the installed, should have one viable one, the one you are using, the rest can be removed04:02
gotenksescott, I said yes to all. and it looks like the space is back. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I really appreciate it. I wish I could pay you a beer or something04:03
dwarderi have a usb hdd with ubuntu installed on it, and it works on many PC and notebooks that i have (booting from usb and running OS) i was wondering if it is possible to boot from this hdd on my mac book pro?04:03
gotenksalmoxarife, we solved it, escott helped me out. the problem here was that these kernels did not show up in synaptic04:03
almoxarifegotenks: alrighty04:04
blackshirtgotenks,is it your own kernel build by your self ?04:04
almoxarifegotenks: and you didnt wipe the kernel that is in memory right now, yes?04:04
gotenksalmoxarife, nono, I wiped out a bunch of 2.6 kernels. I have 3.5 I believe now04:05
dwarderalmoxarife: awesome question =)04:05
gotenksI-m a noob, but not that much04:05
gotenksblackshirt, no, it'snot04:05
almoxarifegotenks: i would reboot, now, just to see what is what04:05
almoxarife!info update-grub04:06
ubottuPackage update-grub does not exist in quantal04:06
viking667it's a command, not a package04:07
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almoxarifei need help with rdp server on lxde, how to set up, so far no go here04:08
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almoxarifeviking667: yes, and it would also tell me what kernels are still viable04:08
almoxarifedo i need to be in the group to get access to the server?04:09
viking667uhm... I suspect I'm missing something too. I no longer have a update-grub (or update-grub2) command. I'm wondering if we've got it wrong?04:10
almoxarifeviking667: look at the file /etc/default/grub , is the update command still the same?04:10
viking667I'll have to check that.04:11
viking667Ah, silly me. I'm the wrong user.04:11
viking667it's in /usr/sbin04:12
viking667and the binary can be found in the grub2-common package04:12
gdeebleHey, curiosity. Does anyone know if the widget found on Damn Small Linux, with load, usage, etc, exists for ubuntu as a widget? Not using htop or system monitor.04:13
blunttuuhi04:13
blunttuuif anyone has any unbuntu related questions feel free to message me04:14
blunttuui mean ubuntu04:14
almoxarifeblunttuu:  i need help with rdp server on lxde, how to set up, so far no go here04:15
dwardersooo, no way to boot from ubuntu usb hdd?04:15
dwarderon mac book04:15
blunttuui would ask viking667  almoxarife04:15
blunttuuhe sounds pretty smart04:16
almoxarifedwarder: darn, works mostly on a rooted kindle :)04:16
blunttuulol04:16
viking667actually, I've never worked with a macbook.04:16
viking667sorry.04:16
viking667so I don't know how to get it to boot from a USB drive04:16
[Saint]Gee...that's a tough one. PM an individual that misspells Ubuntu, or, use the channel is it is intended.04:16
[Saint]...tough call. ;)04:16
almoxarifeblunttuu: so you cant help me?04:16
KindariHey all. Trying to get a command in the form of "sudo -u user" etc to execute that users .bashrc so the path is properly resolved. Any advice?04:17
* cfhowlett errrrrr04:17
viking667and in addition, the last time I used rdp to boot a linux, I was playing with kernel 2.0, not 3.204:17
dwarderalmoxarife: hmm, well, just hooking it up to mac book doesn't boot linux :(04:17
viking667anyhow, nobody seems inclined to answer my pulseaudio question.04:18
almoxarifeviking667: no need to boot, been booted, i need rdp for 'sound' !04:18
viking667so I need to uhm, depart.04:18
viking667"rdp"?04:18
almoxarifeyes04:18
viking667ugh. my apologies. I mistook the environment.04:18
tizzhello folks, is there a "non-help" ubuntu channel?04:19
[Saint]viking667: this is IRC, you need to be prepared to idle for multiple hours.04:19
viking667and no, I've never set up a rdp server, only whatever serves as the X remote accessing thingy.04:19
[Saint]Just because someone doesn't answer *right now* doesn't mean that people don't read logs and someone won't answer later.04:19
almoxarifeviking667: yes, got that one's04:19
viking667heh. I know that, but frankly I waited for days on another question. nobody actualy knew the answer.04:19
viking667tightvnc, or whatever the other one is... vino?04:20
viking667vinagre?04:20
almoxarifeviking667: useless for sound04:20
viking667yeah, so I'm finding. Any way to access the remote's pulseaudio server?04:20
almoxarifeviking667: its an arm- :)04:21
viking667or more properly, for the remote end to access the local pulseaudio server?04:21
viking667h...m04:21
rrajbeHi Everyone, i want to start a process as daemon, by adding script at /etc/init.d/ and to restart if its ever killed.04:21
rrajbeI had completed the adding script as below..04:21
almoxarifeviking667: lxde-arm on a rooted kindle,04:21
rrajbewhile ! daemon_process &; do04:22
rrajbeecho " restarting";done04:22
rrajbeBut its still not restarting if im killing that.04:22
rrajbeAny help please?04:22
viking667almoxarife: is it the one running the desktop you want to access? or are you using it to access a local desktop?04:22
tizzhello folks, is there a "non-help" ubuntu channel? like just a general chat?04:24
zykotick9!ot | tizz04:24
ubottutizz: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!04:24
almoxarifeviking667: it is running in background, accessed presently via ssh and vnc, i cant get sound via vnc, but i expect that, its vnc04:24
tizzty folks04:24
stareagylviking: wikipedia suggests mplayer04:26
viking667sigh. It would.04:26
stareagyl:-)04:26
viking667I'm trying to actualy get my minecraft to do full 5/7.1 surround sound, but in my headphones.04:26
viking667... after all, I don't have seven speakers, I only have two.04:27
blunttuutwo is enough04:27
viking667so either stereo would do (unfortunately) or I have to work out how to downmix.04:27
blunttuuany more than two, means you are spoiled04:27
viking667silly thing is, the game knows what dolby is.04:27
viking667awww. gee.04:27
blunttuuLol04:27
viking667call me an audiophile then. I like my sound.04:27
NastyNazanyone know how I can upload to google music via command line only? (running ubuntu server)04:27
viking667almoxarife: so. I stil don't have something straight. let me re-read.04:28
viking667so, which end is being the server? And which end is the viewer that you want sound on?04:29
DaemonicApathyNastyNaz: http://www.androidcentral.com/google-music-manager-now-available-linux04:29
DaemonicApathyYou may have to use the hud cli with that, I'm not sure.04:30
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NastyNazDaemonicApathy: i'm running headless with no GUI. I don't think that version supports CLI commands04:30
DaemonicApathyNastyNaz: Hm, fair enough. You've intrigued me into further research. ;-)04:31
klyncone of my system services (mpd) won't start correctly at boot, but leaves a process running i have to kill, after which I can restart it with `/etc/init.d/mpd`. doing `start mpd` or `service mpd start` just hangs04:36
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NastyNazDaemonicApathy: thanks!04:41
DaemonicApathynp04:41
nefarioushello04:45
tizzhi04:46
tizzor not04:46
tizzw/e04:46
stareagylNasty: http://antimatter15.com/wp/2011/05/uploading-mp3s-to-google-music-beta-from-linux-chrome-os-win-and-mac/04:49
stareagylfun story with integrated clues04:49
dfcnvthey guys, how do you get the ps/2 mouse to reset or get recoginzed? My mouse is not moving (tried to unplug/plug, restart system, nothing worked)04:53
zykotick9dfcnvt: don't unplug a ps/2 mouse from a running system...04:53
viking667for PS/2 you have to power down04:53
viking667and start up again04:53
dfcnvtTried that. didn't seems to work.04:54
viking667 tried the mouse on another ps2-able machine?04:54
[Saint]If that's the case, ...the system has problems. Be it hardware or software.04:54
dfcnvtYes, the mouse is  not a defect.04:55
[Saint]But, anyway, yeah...there's no plug-and-play for PS/204:55
[Saint]you need to reboot.04:55
viking667good, that's one step out of the way04:55
viking667no, not reboot. Power DOWN.04:55
viking667a reboot doesn't always reset the circuitry.04:55
dfcnvtWhile the system is running?04:55
viking667a powercycle will.04:55
viking667hm.-04:55
[Saint]How do you reboot a system that isn't running? :P04:56
viking667is the system in front of you? (i.e. not remote)04:56
dfcnvtYou meant to say I should 'Shutdown' the system and give it a few second reset then start the system up.04:56
dfcnvtCorrect?04:56
viking667yup04:56
dfcnvtrest*04:56
viking667commonly called powercycling.04:56
dfcnvtAlright then04:56
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dfcnvtLet it be I, follow the community's recommendation.04:57
[Saint]A reboot _should_ be sufficient, but viking667 is likely correct that a power cycle is the guaranteed method.04:57
dfcnvtOff I go. Thanks though.04:57
viking667good luck04:57
viking667I've had older machines that didn't do a full hardware reset, in order to save a few thousand cycles for the reboot.04:58
gnnrsometime reinstalling xserver-xorg-input-mouse mdetect xbase-clients04:58
verempuanarggggggh04:59
verempuanasa05:00
verempuanhi05:00
gnnrhi verempuan if you have a question you can simply ask and wait for someone to answer05:01
NastyNazDaemonicApathy: sadly those scripts dont work anymore as of the latest google updated :(05:01
verempuanhow to resize resolution monitor on ubuntu ?05:01
ses1984i'm trying to get openldap authentication to work on a client, and i think it is, but i'm not sure how to log in as an ldap client from the login screen05:02
ses1984it seems like i can su to an ldap user, but i don't see ldap users in the login screen. i'm using 12.0405:02
DaemonicApathyAh, sorry NastyNaz. I tried.05:03
zangetsuif u are using unity there should be a settings icon on the left hand bar verempuan05:03
kvothetechverempuan: xrandr unless you're in nvidia05:05
blunttuuok05:06
datruthIs there away to increase my screen brightness?05:07
viking667what type of screen is it?05:10
viking667laptop? CRT? LED/LCD?05:10
datruthviking667: laptop05:12
zangetsuusually u have function keys on ur laptop to do that datruth05:14
Jordan_Udatruth: If this function of your display is supported through normal means, an option for this should appear in the power saving settings as well (though I can't confirm at the moment as I'm at a Desktop machine).05:15
datruthJordan_U: in the power settings the display is set to max also my fn keys work in changing the display I just dont think its reaching a full 100% is there a sysctl that could assist with this?05:16
Jordan_Udatruth: Why do you suspect that it's not 100%?05:21
datruthJordan_U: because in windows my screen is much much brighter05:22
zangetsudatruth: in my laptop fn+up-arrow/down-arrow changes brightness.05:23
Jordan_Udatruth: Can you tell if the screen backlight is brighter or darker during very early boot (especially while still in the firmware screens) than when booted into Ubuntu?05:24
zykotick9datruth: it's not an asus netbook is it?05:24
zangetsudatruth: some laptops have brightness function assigned to one of the function keys F1-F1205:26
sargenntoAnybody happen to have Hulu Desktop working on 12.04?05:26
sargenntoI just get a segmentation fault error when I run it05:26
datruthzangetsu: yes I have a asus g74s05:27
datruthzangetsu: is their a specific issue with asus laptops?05:27
datruthJordan_U: when booting to ubuntu the screen is dim then when it gets to the login it brightens up05:28
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zangetsudatruth: i think fn-F5 and fn-F6 are the brightness changing keys for ur laptop05:29
Jordan_Udatruth: Is the login screen the same brightness as post-login (i.e. still less than in Windows at 100%)?05:30
datruthzangetsu: yes that is correct after making some xorg.conf /etc/default/grub changes05:31
datruthJordan_U: yes05:31
strat1227hi all05:31
strat1227i'm wondering, i updated from 10.04 to the current version, and i don't like unity at all. is there a simple way to use the old setup in 12.10?05:32
zykotick9!notunity | strat122705:32
ubottustrat1227: Ubuntu 11.10 and higher use GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic05:32
strat1227thanks all, i'll check that out05:33
strat1227all of that is easily un-doable correct?05:33
EmmEightwhat is the command to open up the network manager05:37
zykotick9EmmEight: nm-applet05:38
EmmEightwhat about in KDE05:38
sargenntoSince installing the 'xubuntu-desktop' packages my volume slider graphic in Unity is now not displaying... Anybody know what gives?05:42
ses1984i'm trying to get openldap authentication working, and it seems to be working because from the command line i can sudo su ldap_user,05:42
ses1984but i would like to be able to log in to an ldap user with the unity desktop. i'm using 12.0405:43
mnshow do I get the icons on the left hand side in Unity to be smaller ?  I dont like the fact that I've got to scroll up and down for them05:49
sdhow many type of browse can you install in ubuntu05:49
DaemonicApathymns: Settings > Appearance > Launcher Icon size (using 12.04.1)05:50
sdhow many type of browse can you install in ubuntu05:51
sdno one knows05:51
sdomg is that bad05:51
DaemonicApathyAs many as you want, as long as they exist for the system, sd.05:51
DaemonicApathyBtw, 1 minute is not long enough for "no one knows".05:51
sdand what are the available browser ?05:51
DaemonicApathyI'm sure Google knows.05:52
mnsDaemonicApathy: I dont have any such setting.  I"m on 12.04 I think.  How do I tell what version I'm on ?05:52
sdi hate googls05:52
DaemonicApathymns: You can check in the System Monitor, in the far left tab.05:53
hongtinhmns: lsb_release -a05:53
mnsaccording to that I"ve got 12.04 (precise)05:55
DaemonicApathyIf you don't have the option in the system settings, I suggest installing compizconfig-settings-manager, where you can adjust most features of Unity fairly easily. s long as you don't mess around with things you don't understand.05:57
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iIlL0oOhow to remove zeitgeist in 12.04 ?06:05
DaemonicApathyiIlL0oO: Why not just disable it?06:07
iIlL0oODaemonicApathy: how to disable it06:07
DaemonicApathySystem Settings > Privacy > switch in the lower right06:08
iIlL0oODaemonicApathy: thank you06:08
DaemonicApathyAny time.06:08
iIlL0oODaemonicApathy: there is no Privacy in gnome-control-center --overview06:11
BustacapI'm bored, there are 1300 people less in offtopic.06:12
BustacapSomeone talk to me :)06:13
DaemonicApathyiIlL0oO: For me, it's between Language Support and Ubuntu One. Are you not on 12.04.1?06:13
joey8hi bustacap06:14
iIlL0oODescription:Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS06:14
DaemonicApathyI have no idea why it would be missing for you.06:14
BustacapHI!!!!!06:15
joey8Bustacap: :)06:15
iIlL0oODaemonicApathy: ok , I'll chmod -x for it .06:15
Bustacapjoey8, what's up?!06:15
iIlL0oODaemonicApathy: thank you06:15
DaemonicApathyYw.06:15
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PhoebusFacing dependency hell on an offline (has to be offline) ubuntu precise (desktop, and the server editions, different boxes). ANY way to download packages WITH dependencies to deploy?06:19
Bustacapjoey8, left me, I need a new friend.06:19
BustacapSomeone pm me.06:19
qmrubuntu 12.04 pretty stock install.  unity keeps doing this stupid expose thing on some type of input from my touchpad. (which I am almost certain is not multi touch)  how do I disable this?  It is EXTREMELY annoying06:19
zykotick9!aptoncd | Phoebus06:19
ubottuPhoebus: APTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs with all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers - See also !offline06:19
PhoebusCheers zykotick9 :)06:20
iIlL0oOqmr: apt-get install gnome-shell , logout for select06:20
* Thrasher194 walksbackwards06:21
* Bustacap walks backwards faster06:21
qmrsgjdfsk;lgjdfsk;lgajklgj;lkj won't stop.  about to break laptop.06:21
qmriIlL0oO: I can't disable it somewhere in settings?06:21
* Bustacap likes moon walking.06:22
iIlL0oOqmr: I'v no idea . I use cairo-dock instead06:22
qmrI just did metacity --replace and it is still doing it.  wtf.06:24
qmrI logged in as "Ubuntu 2D" ..06:26
rayleighsay hi06:27
qmrgconftool-2 --toggle /apps/metacity/general/compositing_manager  .. that did it.06:27
DouglasKHow do I install the "3rd party software" (mp3, etc) after installation?  package name(s) are fine06:29
sargenntoDouglasK: You should just be able to install the 'ubuntu-restricted-extras' package06:31
DouglasKthanks, that's just what I needed.  :)06:31
sargenntoDouglasK: I assume you mean for mp3/dvd play back and such?06:31
sargenntoNP :)06:32
zykotick9!info ubuntu-restricted-extras | DouglasK fyi, does NOT have DVD support here06:34
ubottuDouglasK fyi, does NOT have DVD support here: ubuntu-restricted-extras (source: ubuntu-restricted-extras): Commonly used restricted packages for Ubuntu. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 57 (quantal), package size 2 kB, installed size 30 kB06:34
DouglasKThat's fine ... no optical drive in this machine anyway.  :)06:35
AlMalaakhello06:37
bobweaverhello AlMalaak :)06:38
AlMalaakhi06:38
AlMalaaki resized my lvm partition via this06:39
AlMalaakhttp://www.tcpdump.com/kb/os/linux/lvm-resizing-guide/shrink.html06:39
AlMalaakand it seems to work fine06:39
FloodBot1AlMalaak: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.06:39
AlMalaakgparted now says there is 114gb free on lvm partition06:39
AlMalaakim wondering how to take advantage of that 114gb free?06:43
AlMalaakso i can install windows?06:43
krishankhii06:44
krishanki want to track websites that visited by the user in my network06:45
Jordan_UAlMalaak: If you only shrunk the logical volume, and not the physical volume, then Windows will not be able to access it as Windows does not understand LVM (at least not by default).06:47
Jordan_UAlMalaak: Why did you shrink the volume?06:47
AlMalaakjordan, i shrunk both06:48
AlMalaakJordan_U, i wanted to take 50gb away and give it to windows(to install windows onto)06:49
strat1227hi all, quick question06:49
AlMalaakso i followed the instructions on that page, and it seems to have worked06:49
Jordan_UAlMalaak: Could you pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l"?06:49
AlMalaakjordan, one second, let me reboot to get network access06:49
strat1227just installed ubuntu 12.10, and the volume bar is very very skewed06:49
strat1227meaning unless the volume is at 80% or higher, it's inaudible06:50
AlMalaaki was basically trying to free up 50gb so i can install win8 onto it06:50
strat1227and the entire range of volumes is contained in that last 20%06:50
strat1227any thoughts on how this could be fixed?06:50
roodyyyhi06:53
moon`I'm trying to upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04 and I'm getting this error while attempting: Failed to fetch http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz  404  Not Found06:54
almoxarifemoon`: yeap, its not there, 404 for sure06:54
moon`ideally I'm trying to get my system current with the latest distro.  I haven't used this computer since 2010 and I've forgotten a lot of linux commands and the like but needing to get this box up and running again so I pulled it out of storage06:54
moon`any suggestions almoxarife?06:55
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AlMalaakJordan_U, http://pastebin.ca/226822106:55
almoxarifemoon`: whats the aversion to virgin install of 12.04?06:55
moon`I suppose there isn't one as long as I don't lose anything on the hd's06:56
almoxarifemoon`backup the home dir, and do a clean 12.04? its lts06:56
boo_moon : There's an option in the package manager to check for a new distro06:57
moon`lts?06:57
Jordan_UAkuma: Your physical volume, /dev/sda1, is still 500 GiB.06:57
almoxarifemoon`: long term maintenance06:57
AlMalaakJordan_U, you mean me?:)06:57
AlMalaakthis is what i did: http://www.tcpdump.com/kb/os/linux/lvm-resizing-guide/shrink.html.  I downsized home 50gb, or so i thought06:58
Jordan_UAlMalaak: Yes. Sorry for the mis-highlight Akuma.06:58
AlMalaaki told it to be 300000M06:58
AlMalaaklogically and physically06:58
AlMalaak /dev/mapper/vg_laptop-lv_home to 300000M06:58
AlMalaakit was like 350000M or something06:59
AlMalaakbasically i tried to shave 50gb off06:59
Jordan_UAlMalaak: That guide never goes over changing the size of the physical volume.06:59
AlMalaakwell, i did resize2fs and then lvresize07:00
AlMalaakso i only changed the logical volume?07:00
Jordan_UAlMalaak: /dev/mapper/vg_laptop-lv_home is the logical volume, the physical volume is /dev/sda2.07:00
AlMalaakdoh!07:00
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Jordan_UAlMalaak: Yes, the prefix "lv" stands for logical volume.07:00
AlMalaakwell, i thought i could then use gparted to change the physical volume, but that doesn't seem to work07:00
AlMalaakJordan_U, for some reason, gparted says 114GB of /dev/sda2 lvm is free07:01
AlMalaakim not sure why, since i only reduced it 50GB07:01
AlMalaakJordan_U, what do i do now?07:02
bobweaverwhat is the difference between  upgrade and dist-upgrade ?07:02
AlMalaakto resize physvol?07:02
AlMalaakpvresize?07:02
Jordan_UAlMalaak: Try "sudo pvresize --test --setphysicalvolumesize 450G /dev/sda2"07:04
AlMalaaki tried to use gparted to do the physical resizing, but it has an already allocated error07:04
almoxarifebobweaver: the later is a upgrade in distro, like up one07:04
bobweaveralmoxarife,  then what is different about do-release and dist-upgrade07:05
AlMalaak /dev/sda2: cannot resize to 14399 extents as later ones are allocated.07:05
bobweaversorry07:05
Jordan_UAlMalaak: Confirm that the new size, 450 GiB, is correct.07:05
almoxarifebobweaver: not sure about 'do-release'07:05
almoxarife!do-release07:05
almoxarife!info do-release07:06
ubottuPackage do-release does not exist in quantal07:06
Jordan_U!dist-upgrade | bobweaver07:06
ubottubobweaver: A dist-upgrade will install new dependencies for packages already installed and may remove packages if they are no longer needed. This will not bring you to a new release of Ubuntu, see !upgrade if that is your intention.07:06
AlMalaakwell, /dev/sda1 is 50gb and it's boot07:06
bobweaverI can not seem to get to the bottom of this. If I run dist-upgrade it only runs if like going  from beta to alpha ? woops other way around07:06
AlMalaaki think /dev/sda2 is 450gb but i want it 400gb07:06
Jordan_Ubobweaver: If you want to upgrade to a new release, see !upgrade.07:06
almoxarifebobweaver: more like from 12.4 > 12.1007:06
AlMalaakpvresize --test --setphysicalvolumesize 400G /dev/sda2   /dev/sda2: cannot resize to 12799 extents as later ones are allocated.07:07
NikPThe Christian O' Connel Breakfast Show!!!07:07
dasfgasdwhich ubuntu distro is best for a netbook with 1gb ram running on a single core atom processor?07:07
bobweaverJordan_U, Nope not sure how the question came about but I was stuck and forums that I read aree all for red hat and what not. So thanks  so it is like runinng     apt-get build-deps but for all packages that are installed ?07:07
Jordan_UAlMalaak: There is space allocated after 450 GiB into the pv, (which is much after 400 GiB in).07:08
Dr_willisdasfgasd,  unity works fine on my netbooks. but Lubuntu would be the lightest in resources07:08
Jordan_UAlMalaak: Please pastebin the output of "sudo pvdisplay /dev/sda2".07:08
AlMalaakhttp://pastebin.ca/226874107:08
AlMalaakit looks like the space is 9622-13287 is free07:08
dasfgasdDr_willis: gnome is too resource heavy for my netbook imho07:08
bobweaverseems like Each time that I run dist-upgrade it installs a new kernel :/07:08
dasfgasdunity runs on top of gnome, correct?07:09
Jordan_Ubobweaver: No, apt-get build-dep is for grabbing the build-dependencies of a package, it isn't related to dist-upgrade in any way.07:09
Dr_willisdasfgasd,  unity is a plugin for compiz thats using gnome3 yes.07:09
dasfgasdk07:09
AlMalaakhttp://pastebin.ca/226879207:09
AlMalaak  Physical extent 9622 to 13287:07:09
AlMalaak    FREE07:09
bobweaverJordan_U,  sorry I still dont get it I am dence sometimes can you try to explain a little more. I mean the  bot says that it grabs Deps: that are for packages that are installed or somethingto that fnature07:10
localdasfgasd: tinylinux, or puppy linux...if you are looking for something small. not sure if you are particular on ubuntu.07:11
dasfgasdnah, i want ubuntu07:11
dasfgasdwell, if gnome 3 takes advantage of the intel graphics then it should possibly run smoother than lxde or xfce07:12
bobweaverJordan_U,  I guess like why are some packages held back untill running dist-upgrade ?  is it like debian with stable expermental ect ?07:12
dasfgasdi mean07:12
dasfgasdright?07:12
lesshasteI just installed quantal and it logs me in without a password. I want to change desktop but I don't get that option. How can I do that?07:12
bobweaverlesshaste,  users and passwords07:13
lesshastebobweaver, is this in a menu?07:13
bobweaverlesshaste, are you using unity ? or what DE ?07:13
lesshasteunity I believe.. whatever the default is07:14
lesshasteI have installed lubuntu-desktop and want to switch to it07:14
bobweaverlesshaste, you can just tyoe in "user" into the search bar in Unity Dash07:14
lesshastebobweaver, ok I see users and groups, for example07:15
Dr_willislesshaste,  you can log out and it shoul go to the lightdm login screen07:15
lesshasteDr_willis, oh you mean as opposed to restarting?07:16
Dr_willisyou may want to disable the auto-login feature.  also if you plan on changeing back07:16
Dr_willislesshaste,  yes... just log out.. ;)07:16
lesshasteDr_willis, right.. how do I disable the auto-login feature?07:16
Dr_willisNo idea. I never enable the silly thing. ;P07:16
lesshaste:)07:16
bobweaverlesshaste, you need to add a password to user07:16
Dr_willisI think they should remove the option from the Installer.07:16
AlMalaakJordan_U, ?07:16
Jordan_Ubobweaver: Right now Firefox doesn't have "Playing tuxcart" as a standard feature, and so the "firefox" package doesn't depend on the tuxcart package. In the future, if the firefox developers go crazy, they might decide that the next version of Firefox should depend on tuxcart. So if this new version of Firefox that depended on tuxcart were made available in the repositories "apt-get upgrade" would refuse to upgrade you to it, as ...07:16
Jordan_U... it would require installation of a new package. Instead you would be stuck with the old pre-tuxcart version of Firefox. Ideally, package dependencies shouldn't change within a stable release, so dist-upgrade should only be needed if you're following the development of an Ubuntu alpha/beta.07:16
AlMalaakoh i see you were busy:)07:17
Dr_willisthe user still has a password even if its set to auto login i belive.07:17
RangerMauveErm. Is there a way to log in as root and edit a file from the command line if I've locked mysef from being able to login on my one account?07:17
Dr_willisRangerMauve,  recovery mode, single user mode, live cd..07:17
Phoebuszykotick9, missing a step, not mentioned in any manual. What if the offline systems don't have aptoncd to restore? Not seeing this anywhere, thanks.07:17
RangerMauveWhat can I do in recovery mode?07:17
bobweaverJordan_U,  thanks a ton that makes 100% sense Thanks a ton07:18
Jordan_Ubobweaver: You're welcome.07:18
Dr_willisRangerMauve,  or login in as a differnt user, then get a root shell,/fix things  and/or su to the user07:18
RangerMauveI tried the option that brings up a shell logged in as root, but everything os read only07:18
Dr_willisthers a menu item/option to remount /  in r/w mode i recall.07:18
RangerMauveI only have one user, and the logon screen only lets me log in as that07:18
AlMalaakJordan_U, did you see my pastebin?07:19
Dr_willisRangerMauve,  and whats the core of the probolem? how did you  lock yourself out?07:19
RangerMauveI made it so that when I log in, my PATH fucks up. TT-TT07:19
Jordan_U!language | RangerMauve07:20
Dr_willisRangerMauve,  you could login as the user at the console and fix the path befor you do things.. depending onwht you did.07:20
ubottuRangerMauve: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.07:20
RangerMauveAll because of a stupid mistake when adding an environment variable07:20
kvothetechRangerMauve: add a 1 to the kernel line on boot it'll boot you to init mode 1 which should dump you in as root07:20
vbgunzanyone have experience running games in a separate xserver? I am trying that out and Bastion opens up with a smaller resolution (it really appears shrunk) and there is no sound. Anyone know how to address this?07:20
RangerMauveSorry for thhlanguage07:20
usr13RangerMauve: What exactly did you do?07:20
kvothetechRangerMauve: and $PATH= then export $PATH if you can login at all should fix that07:20
AlMalaakJordan_U, sorry to repeat, but did you see my pastebin?07:21
RangerMauveI changed that one file, acts like .profile07:21
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almoxarifei thought buntu drops you right into a root shell as a grub option07:21
Dr_willisalmoxarife,  it has a recovery item that has some extra features. but can do a root shell also07:22
localshow_names_on_join = OFF07:22
almoxarifeDr_willis: use my nick again, something happened here, go07:22
Dr_willisalmoxarife,  what if i dont want to... ;P07:23
RangerMauveErm, can I log in from grub?07:23
Jordan_UAlMalaak: Yes. I don't work with LVM very much but it looks like your PV has 14888 Physical Extents ("Total PE              14888") and the logical volume lv_root is using Physical Extents up to extent 14887 ("Physical extent 13288 to 14887"). Since the last extents of the PV are in use, you can't reduce the size of the PV. You probably need to pvmove the logical volume extents around so that the free extents within the PV are at ...07:23
Jordan_U... the end.07:23
Dr_willisgrub is a boot loader - you give options to RangerMauve. so no,07:23
almoxarifeDr_willis: thnks, i thought sound came from speakers while i had buds in, sorry :)07:23
Jordan_UAlMalaak: And it took a while to write that comment :)07:23
AlMalaaksorry07:24
AlMalaakJordan_U, is there an easy way to pvmove?07:24
Jordan_URangerMauve: Boot into recovery mode to get to a root shell.07:24
RangerMauveIt seems that I was giben an option to open a command line at the grub menu when I force shutdown during boot07:24
Dr_willisRangerMauve,  so either tell us what happens if you try to login at the console. (assuming X is broken) and we can try to fix the issue.07:24
RangerMauveJordan_U the consile logs in as read only07:25
Dr_willisRangerMauve,   the normal console, from a normal login - may let you fix things RangerMauve07:25
Phoebus!offline07:25
ubottuIf you need to download Ubuntu packages using another machine or OS, check the desired packages in Synaptic and select File > Generate package download script. Alternatively, try http://ubottu.com/ljl/apt/ - See also !APTonCD07:25
Dr_willisthe recovery mode. has options to remount the OS in read/wriute mode07:25
RangerMauveI'm on Ubuntu 12.04 so I just go right to Unity's login screen07:25
Dr_willisRangerMauve,  so ... hit alt-ctrl-f1 and see if you can login at the consoel..07:26
Jordan_URangerMauve: mount -o remount,rw /07:26
RangerMauveThe problem is that I can't log in at all at the moment07:26
RangerMauveMk07:26
RangerMauveOh jesus. So, it seema that the password that I use for sudo, is NOT my root password, and I have no idea what it was. Sounds fun07:29
almoxarifeRangerMauve: never was07:29
Dr_willisRangerMauve,  you dont login directly as root on ubuntu normally.07:29
Dr_willistry loging in at the consoel as your user...07:30
RangerMauveYeah, but now I can't log in at all.07:30
Dr_williswhat HAPPENS if you try to login at the console?07:30
RangerMauveSeems my actual user credentials are 'incorrect' somehow07:30
almoxarifeRangerMauve: cntr-alt-f107:30
RangerMauveYeah, I have the console. Are usernames case sensitive or something?07:31
usr13RangerMauve: yes07:31
almoxarifeRangerMauve: got ask, that your machine?07:31
usr13RangerMauve: and so is password07:31
Dr_willisI always use lower case. ;)07:31
flowerpotIs there a good channel to ask a question about GNU tar?07:32
RangerMauveIt's alive!07:32
Dr_willisliNuX is NoRmAlY CaSe SeneSetiVe ;)07:32
vbgunzanyone know why running a game on another xserver causes there to be no sound?07:32
RangerMauveIt is my machine, I just never had to type my username out since I set it up07:33
Dr_willisvbgunz,  because pulse audio is running on the desktop on the first server perhaps so has a lock on it?07:33
almoxarifevbgunz: cause xserver is not a sound server07:33
usr13RangerMauve: Did you have it set to auto-login?07:33
RangerMauveI'm just the only registered user, so it just prompts for my password07:34
usr13RangerMauve: Oh ok.07:34
RangerMauveNow I'm in, but I'll have to prepend /bin to all my commands07:34
vbgunzI thought it would be simpler, I am having a bit more luck with google too07:34
Dr_willisRangerMauve,  or set/export a correct path. :)07:35
AlMalaakpvmove /dev/sda207:35
AlMalaak  No extents available for allocation07:35
localflowerpot: what is your question about tar?07:35
flowerpotI've been reading the tar manual regarding incremental dumping: http://www.gnu.org/software/tar/manual/html_section/Incremental-Dumps.html#incremental_002dop07:35
flowerpotThe manual says tar will "will delete those files in the file system that did not exist in their directories when the archive was created."  However, I've tested it out, and it doesn't seem to do that - I want to know if the manual is wrong, or if I'm just confused.07:35
RangerMauveYeah, I set it to include a directory using ~/.pam_environment07:36
usr13RangerMauve: See what it's set to now.  $PATH07:37
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RangerMauveWow... I really messed up07:37
RangerMauveMy path begins with the text "$PATH"07:37
Jordan_Uflowerpot: I can't find that sentence in either "man tar" or "info tar".07:37
flowerpotJordan_U, check the webpage I linked, here: http://www.gnu.org/software/tar/manual/html_section/Incremental-Dumps.html#incremental_002dop07:38
Jordan_Uflowerpot: Never mind, I just saw your previous comment :)07:38
RangerMauveIf I delete ~/.pam_environment, would it be safe?07:39
RangerMauveAll I have in there is the stuff I added which borked my path07:39
Jordan_Uflowerpot: Are you using an incremental archive?07:39
Dr_willisRangerMauve,  just rename the file is the safest way07:40
flowerpotJordan_U, yes.   I'lll give you an example of how I'm testing it07:40
RangerMauveDr_willis, might as well. Not like it could mess stuff up more07:40
Dr_williscant say that ive ever used .pam_enviroment :)07:41
mah454I need make backup from files ; if file edited from editors . (vim , emacs , nano , ...)07:41
localflowerpot: from what i understand it i will delete ONLY the directories that were NOT created when the backup was.07:41
mah454can do this ?07:41
Jordan_URangerMauve: Famous last words. Best practice is to just move files.07:41
RangerMauveThat's what the ubuntu site said to use to add environment variables07:41
Jordan_URangerMauve: (and then delete after you're sure you don't need it).07:41
Dr_willismah454,  clarify what you mean. Most text editors have a auto-make backup files feature.07:41
localflowerpot: anything after the creation date will be purged.07:42
RangerMauveJordan_U, to be fair, the only text in there was written by me07:42
Dr_willisRangerMauve,  cant say ive Ever seen it mentioned to put env variables in there. but im old skool. I set mine in the various .bashrc* files07:42
Dr_willistheres a line in one of the bash files to set your path if you want. ;)07:43
RangerMauveHonestly, I'm glad I didn't make it a global change07:43
AlMalaakJordan_U, my win8 DVD doesn't even work, so im going to put the lvm back the way it was07:44
AlMalaakcan you tell me something?07:44
AlMalaaklvresize -l +100%FREE should i do this first then resize2fs?07:44
Dr_willisRangerMauve,  http://askubuntu.com/questions/4667/where-to-declare-environment-variables   seems to mention issues with setting the path in .pam_enviroment07:45
RangerMauveBuh07:46
jiltdilfrI have dual boot window and ubuntu.. But i have no right to modify  or delete files of window after logging in window. is there any way to change permisons on window drive using ubuntu07:46
Dr_willisjiltdilfr,  mount the windows filesystems with the proper options. andthe users can have full access to the files07:46
Dr_willisIve used ntfs-config in the past to automate the settings. but not sure if its still a valid tool. its been sortof a flakey tweak type tool laast few releases.07:47
Jordan_UAlMalaak: AlMalaak +100% means to resize it to twice the current size of the logical volume.07:47
vbgunzif anyone is curious of getting sound while in a new xserver, add yourself to the audio group and reboot. I now have sound in my games when launched on a new xserver07:48
Dr_willismakes me wonder how you had sound on the oroginal server without being in that group.07:48
Dr_willis;)07:48
AlMalaakwell, im just trying to put it back the size it was, or take up 100% of the available space07:48
Jordan_UAlMalaak: +100%PVS is probably what you want, which means to add to the size of the logical volume 100% of the available free space.07:48
Dr_willisbbl.07:49
AlMalaakok with resize or extend?07:49
vbgunzI wasn't but I had sound. I found a post about adding yourself to the audio group and I tried it out, rebooted, etc. Yup, I have sound and it is good :)07:49
AlMalaaklvresize or lvextend?07:49
AlMalaaklvextend -l +100%PVS?07:49
jiltdilfrDr_willis : But after changing permisons i want  if i was login in windows then the windows drive have full permisson07:50
RangerMauveWoot! I'm back in. Thanks for the help, guys!07:50
Jordan_UAlMalaak: That looks good, but 1: I don't work with LVM much and 2: I'm fairly tired at the moment, so make your own judgement :)07:53
AlMalaakwell, the only thing is, i resized one part of the lvm, the home part07:53
AlMalaakand now when i do 100%07:53
AlMalaaki say07:53
AlMalaaklvextend -l 100%PVS /dev/vga_laptop/vg-home07:54
AlMalaakand it says07:54
AlMalaak55136 extends needed, only 3666 available07:54
AlMalaak5513 extends needed, only 3666 available07:54
AlMalaakit seems to be trying to increase it to the full 465gb, but that's the size of the entire /dev/sda207:54
AlMalaaknot vg-home07:54
flowerpotJordan_U, local: check this paste out07:56
flowerpothttp://pastebin.com/Rs3BNK7L07:56
RangerMauveSo, may I ask what the proper or at least, more foolproof way of adding and changing environment variables would be?07:56
flowerpotMy understanding is that the behavior shown there is not the same as what the GNU website says: http://www.gnu.org/software/tar/manual/html_section/Incremental-Dumps.html#SEC9407:57
flowerpotMy version of tar is 1.26, which is the version for which that HTML manual was written07:57
AlMalaaki have 3666 free PE07:58
localflowerpot: may i ask what you're trying to do with tar?07:58
AlMalaakhow do i add 3666 extents to an lvm?07:58
flowerpotlocal, create incremental backups of my home folder07:58
flowerpotI want to make sure I understand the incremental backup behavior correctly, so I don't accidentally do bad things07:58
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flowerpotI basically just want to know if you guys agree that the behavior in that pastebin contradicts what the manual says.07:59
AlMalaakJordan_U, i did lvextend -l +366607:59
AlMalaakso now there are no more free extents08:00
AlMalaakso now i do resize2fs, right?08:00
inhiesis anyone aware of a google talk client that will load conversation history like teh officail one does?08:03
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AlMalaakgot it, thanks08:03
inhiesall 3rd party ones seem unable to do that and I wonder if only the official google one has that capability :(08:04
usr13flowerpot: You could just make separate files and delete old ones as need be.08:04
localflowerpot: still trying to load those pages...my connection is spotty.08:04
usr13tar czf backup-`date +%Y-%m-%d`.tar.gz /path/to/directory/to/back/up08:04
usr13... will create backup-2012-03-11.tar.gz and then backup-2012-04-11.tar.gz etc...08:05
usr13No, thats wrong.08:06
usr13... will create backup-2012-11-03.tar.gz and then backup-2012-11-04.tar.gz etc...08:07
jiltdilHow to install s/w through terminal?08:17
flowerpotusr13, I could, but each file would be about 500 MB; I'd rather avoid that08:17
RONNCCdoes the usb for lubuntu persistant dirive need to be > 4gb?08:17
moon`so I did a clean install of 12.10, it detected earlier versions of gentoo and ubuntu but did a full wipe and reinstall.  When the computer boots up I get dumped into a grub rescue prompt08:18
moon`not familiar enough with linux to do anything from there08:18
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flowerpotJordan_U, local, usr13: on the plus side...I might not really need to do incremental backup.  It's cool, but probably overkill for backing up my home directory.  If I create a tar file on a regular basis of my entire home directory, and store it in Amazon S3 (deleting the previous ones as I go), then it won't really cost me any more than storing one tar archive in S3 over the entire length of time...08:22
Jordan_Umoon`: Do you have more than one hard drive?08:24
moon`I have 2 yes08:24
moon`currently using/looking at this as a solution https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair08:24
Jordan_Umoon`: Grub's boot sector was probably installed to a different drive than the one you're booting from. Try changing the boot order in your BIOS.08:25
moon`Jordan_U: Well that makes perfect sense...  Good call, I bet you're right.  Been awhile since I've plinked on the ole desktop08:25
moon`thanks08:25
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Jordan_Umoon`: You're welcome. Once you're booted into Ubuntu you can run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc" and configure the grub-pc package to always install grub's boot sector to both drives, that way BIOS boot priority doesn't matter.08:26
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daniel__How do I prevent my IP from being shown?08:27
Jordan_U!cloak | dannib_08:28
ubottudannib_: To get any kind of cloak (ubuntu member or any other kind) you first need to set up your nick as detailed in this FAQ: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup -  For Ubuntu member cloaks, ask in #ubuntu-irc and provide your launchpad page, for unaffiliated ones, ask in #freenode.08:28
Jordan_Udannib_: Sorry, mistab.08:28
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localflowerpot: have you tried deja dup? looks like a gui solution.08:32
flowerpoti have not...ill have to look at it08:33
joey8lucky backup is really great too08:34
SpaceRocketis there a tool for converting CSV to text?08:36
joey8SpaceRocket:  csv files are formatted text files08:37
joey8SpaceRocket: open your csv file with a text editor08:37
joey8SpaceRocket: mmm i may be slightly mistaken -, try exporting the csv file as a text file08:38
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cnfsigh08:38
cnfsilly kde package manager is borked08:39
shinao1Hi I'm using 12.10 but i have a problem that's been nagging since 11.04.. please whats the best way to migrate from evolution to sylpheed/claws/balsa ? Im going out of my mind here and I have a lot of email in evolution. A LOT.08:39
cnfcan't install shit anymore08:39
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joey8is that shit v1 or shit v208:39
nilsdinggood morning everyone08:40
ikoniatone down the language please.08:40
cnfjoey8: either!08:40
ikoniathere is no need for that language08:40
nilsdinga friend of mine recently got Ubuntu and he can't get his wifi drivers working08:40
* joey8 sighs08:40
nilsdingit's an intel wifi one..08:41
blazemorecnf: Have you tried opening a terminal and running "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -f install"08:41
blazemorenilsding: Can he get on the Internet another way, such as with a cable?08:41
Kriminelcan anyone direct me to a tutorial on how to set an image based GUI for grub? i'm dual booting ubuntu 12.4.3 and windows 808:41
blazemoreKriminel: Do you mean "image" as in "picture" ?08:41
cnfblazemore: sure, does nothing08:41
nilsdingblazemore: not now08:42
blazemorecnf: You may have to be more specific with your question then08:42
blazemorerather than "is borked... can't install [redacted]"08:42
Kriminelblazemore yes, i've seen some amazing grub screenshots where it displayed the ubuntu, windows 7 and even QNX logos instead of the text interface i have now08:42
cnfblazemore: it can't elevate privs08:42
blazemoreKriminel: That's called "BURG", take a look at it08:42
nilsdinghe has downloaded a iwlwifi-5000-ucode-8.83,5.1.1.tar.gz08:42
Kriminelblazemore thank you, will google it now08:42
blazemorenilsding: What wifi chipset does he have?08:42
blazemoreWhy do you think that's the right one to download?08:43
cnf"operation can not continue as proper authorization was no provided" stuff08:43
cnfnot*08:43
blazemorecnf: try #kubuntu08:43
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nilsdingI guess it's "0c:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY (rev 01)08:44
localflowerpot: what are the contents of the .snar?08:44
nilsdingat least it's what lspci says08:44
noobie432hey guys, when on a shell, what do call the word after the @ sign (example here: "ubuntu") on "john@ubuntu:" Is it the name of the computer?08:44
blazemorenilsding: Then that Intel one won't be much good. What version of Ubuntu is he running?08:45
jussinoobie432: yes, hostname08:45
noobie432jussi: thanks...08:45
nilsdingthe latest08:45
blazemorenoobie432: It would be really useful if he could plug it in via ethernet and get a connection that way08:46
blazemorenilsding: ^08:46
blazemoresorry noobie43208:46
noobie432:)08:46
blazemorenilsding: Then he could run sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-lpphy-installer08:46
flowerpotlocal, it's explained on the page I linked - it's a metadata file that allows tar to help determine which files have been changed, added or deleted since the last backup08:47
nilsdingblazemore, I will try, thanks08:47
nilsdingi'll try to give him my mobile connection08:47
nilsdingbrb08:47
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noobie432i'm trying out a turnkeylinux+tomcat and i'm using the webshell... the prompt is root@tomcat ~# . Lol, i was trying to figure out why the shell is "executing on tomcat" instead of the core... Turns out it's just the name given fo the distro...08:49
icerootnoobie432: which is offtopic here08:51
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nilsdingThank you blazemore, it worked :)08:53
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dzupi got this error in precise when trying to get a .py running ImportError: No module named pyexpat any ideas?09:05
ikoniadzup: find the module it wants, check if it's installed09:07
vbgunzdoes anyone know why I cannot adjust the resolution of some games *when* I start them in a new xserver?09:08
dzupikonia, i try but can not fount in py 2.709:09
ikoniavbgunz: how / why are you starting them in a new x server09:09
dzupfound*09:09
ikoniadzup: which module is it looking for ?09:09
greenithi, i have set up ubuntu server 12.04 and installed unity-greeter, lxde, gnome-shell and xrdp... however, i can't remotely log in via xrdp.. can you help me plz?09:09
dzuppyexpat09:09
ikoniadzup: so is that part of the default ubuntu python install ?09:09
dzupImportError: No module named pyexpat09:09
dzup ikonia  ...you have that in your precise 64bits?09:09
ikoniadzup: that's not what I asked09:10
localflowerpot: line 24 is missing -g specifyin either the .snar or /dev/null for level 009:10
ikoniadzup: I asked is that present in the default ubuntu python install09:10
ikoniahave you checked if the module is actaully there09:10
dzupikonia, idk09:10
almoxarifegreenit: same issue here,09:10
dzupikonia, what folder is that at?09:10
vbgunzikonia: I was reading an arch wiki page about performance and one of the tips was starting a game in a new xserver. I can launch many if not all games, even steam big picture, etc on a new xserver *but* Bastion does not allow me to adjust the resolution and theres just something plain wrong with it understanding full screen09:11
shinao1Hi I'm using 12.10 but i have a problem that's been nagging since 11.04.. please whats the best way to migrate from evolution to sylpheed/claws/balsa ? Im going out of my mind here and I have a lot of email in evolution. A LOT.09:11
ikoniavbgunz: ok, so there is your answer....it's that one game/application09:11
ikoniaI don't see why launcing something in a seperate x server would give any performance increase09:11
ikoniadzup: no idea, you'd need to check09:11
vbgunzno there is no answer. the game allows you to change resolution just not in a new xserver. I got to be missing something, not sure what it is09:12
ikoniavbgunz: so others work, but this one won't.....that suggests this program is the problem09:12
ikoniaor requires a specific method09:12
dzupikonia, am using easy_install , i check http://pypi.python.org/simple/ but its not there, but expat must be in every default install or may precise not including this anymore?09:13
vbgunzI need to know what it could be. I'm googling the issue but I am left with no ideas. It works perfect if I run it now in the current running xserver but using a new xserver and it acts weird when it shouldn't. I'm missing something09:13
ikoniadzup: I have no idea what "easy_install" is so can't comment09:13
ikoniavbgunz: it may not support it,09:14
dzupikonia, thank you.09:14
dzupikonia, its weird  ls /usr/lib/python2.7/lib-dynload/pyexpat.so09:21
dzup/usr/lib/python2.7/lib-dynload/pyexpat.so its there :(09:21
greeniti installed x11vnc now, but when i want to connect, it refuses.. how can i fix this?09:22
shinao1no answer? any help?09:27
ikoniashinao1: what format are you storing your mail in ?09:27
ikoniashinao1: I'm assuming it's mail you want to migrate09:27
shinao1yes its my mail09:28
dzupi solved! rm -rf uperharvest  <--that script just dont work here, soo byebye xD09:28
shinao1im not sure what format... i think its maildir09:28
ikoniashinao1: that suggests it's an imap mail server09:28
shinao1but when i tried to export as mbox it grew to about 30GB before i stopped it09:28
shinao1no evolution the email client09:28
ikoniayes, but the mail server you connect to, is that an imap server09:29
ikonia(it sounds like it is if it's maildir)09:29
skiy1337I'm having trouble getting Orca running.09:30
flowerpotlocal: thank you.  Turns out GNU was right and I was wrong.  In line 20 and 24, I forgot to add the -G flag (equivalent to --increment, also equivalent to --list-increment=/dev/null)09:30
skiy1337I did 'apt-get install orca', but it did not include a speech synthesizer.09:30
skiy1337What's the point?09:30
flowerpotOnce I did that, the test went as expected (tmpfile and tmpsubdir are deleted by tar when restoring from the tmpdir.1.tar archive)09:30
skiy1337There isn't a "Suggests:" under apt-cache show gnome-orca, either.09:32
skiy1337So I'm really in the dark here.09:32
thunder1212hi09:33
thunder1212how do i block torrents download?09:34
Ben64thunder1212: what do you mean09:35
skiy1337thunder 1212, Router's usually have firewalls.09:35
skiy1337Just leave 80,21,110 open.09:36
thunder1212Ben64, skiy1337 and if th router doesn't have a firewall then09:36
Ben64it's pretty hard to block torrents, even with a firewall09:36
skiy1337The only other way I know, is to install a server computer in front of your router.09:37
skiy1337But that's very difficult.09:37
thunder1212Ben64, skiy1337 , i have a router which is wifi enabled and it is secured with a pre shared key,09:38
Ben64who's torrenting are you trying to block?09:39
shinao1ikonia: are you suggesting i pipe it through some imap server? im confused09:39
thunder1212Ben64, skiy1337 , and 3to 4 people connect via there laptops.. now one of them is using torrents and keeps on downloading09:39
thunder1212Ben64, skiy1337 , so we end up with a very slow connection09:40
Ben64thunder1212: then tell them to stop :|09:40
navikanyone know the command of launching ubuntus printer setup utility? Currently not using ubuntu unity...09:40
skiy1337thunder1212, I think all routers have firewalls.09:40
ikoniashinao1: I'm asking you a simple question - not telling you to do anything09:41
ikoniashinao1: is the mail server your client connects to an imap server ?09:41
skiy1337thunder1212, I can guide you through it.09:41
shinao1i have no mail server.. its the collected email in the evolution that i want to move into another email client09:42
shinao1its on my laptop09:42
riply@shinao1 are you POPing that email off of a server, or using IMAP?09:42
shinao1POPing09:43
shinao1fully poped09:43
riply@shinao1, then you should be able to just copy/paste the data from evolution09:43
thunder1212Ben64, skiy1337 , som info on my router..http://screenshots.portforward.com/Flextronics/DNA-A211-I/09:43
riplycheck this thread out> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=176046909:44
shinao1uh... have you seen the format? and the number of folders?09:44
TomGreentimes2okay, i have questions here, well 1, but i dont want to be told to "upgrade" to 12.04 or 12.10, both of these suddenly had my sound stop working for absolutely no reason on 2 sound cards09:44
Ben64thunder1212: really doesn't seem like a ubuntu issue, you might want to try #networking or something09:44
riply@shinao, it doesn't matter the 'format' or # of folders.09:44
TomGreentimes2i need libc6 2.15 because avidemux 2.5.6 wants that and also 2.6, so i upgraded the kernel to 3.2 thinking it would somehow widen my library, or like maybe, make it safe to replace libc6 2.13 by 2.1509:45
TomGreentimes2so what do you guys say about that ? opinions appreciated09:45
Ben64TomGreentimes2: what version of ubuntu are you running?09:45
TomGreentimes211.1009:45
gordonjcpTomGreentimes2: you need to upgrade to 12.04 at least09:46
skiy1337thunder1212, This is the one: http://screenshots.portforward.com/Flextronics/DNA-A211-I/Outgoing_IP_Filtering.htm09:46
gordonjcp11.10 is no longer supported09:46
TomGreentimes2well, no, 12.04 does not agree with my hardware09:46
gordonjcpTomGreentimes2: rubbish09:46
TomGreentimes2i thought it was supported until august next year...at least patch-wise..09:46
Ben64gordonjcp: 11.10 is actually still good till April09:46
thunder1212Ben64, ok but still plz help : )09:46
TomGreentimes2i tried both buddy, and both gave me the very well documented09:46
TomGreentimes2SOUND OF SILENCE BUG09:46
gordonjcpBen64: okay, so a couple of months09:46
Ben64unfortunately, we can't support 11.10 with 3.2 kernel or anything like that09:47
TomGreentimes212.10 caused it even faster09:47
thunder1212skiy1337, ok wait i'll go through it09:47
Ben64thunder1212: this is for Ubuntu only09:47
gordonjcpTomGreentimes2: are you using some deeply weird hardware?09:47
TomGreentimes2im not here to discuss this09:47
TomGreentimes2i want to know if it is dangerous to upgrade my libc6 to 2.15 from 2.13, i know it is a very core important package09:47
gordonjcpwell, the solution is to upgrade from the version you're currently using, which is going to go out of support soon anyway09:47
skiy1337thunder1212, join #networking with me09:47
gordonjcp<shrug>09:48
gordonjcpTomGreentimes2: yes, extremely09:48
Ben64TomGreentimes2: it'd probably be easier to upgrade to 12.04 than to go compiling everything to a recent version09:48
TomGreentimes2but i managed to bring the kernel to 3.2 and i was told it was the path to follow if i wanted to get that libc609:48
TomGreentimes2..09:48
gordonjcpTomGreentimes2: it might work, it might not, but what's far more likely is you'll get all manner of weird behaviour09:48
TomGreentimes2i had 12.04 for 2 months, sound crapped on me, 12.10, sound crapped on me even faster09:48
TomGreentimes2google around guys09:48
TomGreentimes2many people find themselves with no sound whatosever after some time09:49
TomGreentimes2its documented09:49
Ben64then fix that issue instead of causing a ton more by trying to upgrade 11.10 with newer versions of things09:49
TomGreentimes2alsa-utils doesnt have anything weird in it either, i followed all the guides until i brought back 11.1009:49
TomGreentimes2well, actually, you know what, i used to have avidemux 2.6 on backtrack 5R2, and thats kernel 3.2 but ubuntu 10.0409:50
TomGreentimes2makes you think ;)09:50
TomGreentimes2well09:51
TomGreentimes2i only have a little second question then, i'm sure you will be able to help out easily here09:52
TomGreentimes2since im about to do something risky..is there anything close to windows's system restore09:52
TomGreentimes2for ubuntu09:52
riplyTomGreentimes2, you can ghost your HDD?09:52
rumpe1TomGreentimes2, btrfs can do snapshots09:53
TomGreentimes2btrfs eh09:53
* TomGreentimes2 searches09:53
Ben64that won't help09:53
Ben64dd if=<boot partition> of=<somewhere to store backup>09:53
Ben64from a boot cd or something09:54
TomGreentimes2i only know the name of one program doing this well, and its a windows program, it used to do ext3/4 partitions in the past but i wouldnt know anymore these days, but its their only good product ever, norton ghost that is09:54
riplyTomGreentimes2, dd is an app that copies your HDD image09:54
TomGreentimes2i know what dd is09:54
TomGreentimes2its a unix native command there since forever09:54
rumpe1TomGreentimes2, taking snapshots takes less than a seconds and you could boot into any of them after that09:54
riplyTomGreentimes2, okay cool, then you're sorted as long as you can live with bouncing the box?09:55
TomGreentimes2see, the thing im not new to linux, but i havent touche it for 5 years until i got back some interest in having a dual bootin pc again09:55
rumpe1TomGreentimes2, (or make a backup of one of the snapshots without having to boot a different OS/live media)09:55
Ben64TomGreentimes2: you really should just get 12.04 working, much less hassle09:55
TomGreentimes2i have 2 external drives of 500gb, but with just 60mb left of space09:56
TomGreentimes2Ben6409:56
riplyI agree with Ben64, soon you're going to have all sorts of issues when it's properly nonLTS09:56
TomGreentimes2i will gladly get back on 12.04 or even 12.10, when09:56
TomGreentimes2a) the sound issue is corrected09:56
TomGreentimes2b) 11.10 is no longer supported/given patches to09:56
TomGreentimes2so, right now this very non productive to talk about09:57
Ben64no, what you're doing is non productive09:57
clarezoeHi, I have two "online accounts" in my settings, is that normal? I'm in ubuntu 12.1009:57
TomGreentimes2okay so i just read that if i was to upgrade my libc6 2.13 to 2.15, it would say 2.15 causes prolbems to 2.13, and if you try to remove 2.13 first its gonna try to remove 99% of your apps09:58
TomGreentimes2so you cant do it09:58
clarezoemy google talk is not working, it sais it needs authorisation but I cannot find where to set the authorisation09:58
TomGreentimes2but i'm gonna do a backup before going to bed indeed, dont want to do something hastefuly when id idnt have enough sleep09:58
Ben64sound is much easier to fix than a mangled system09:59
media-centrehey is anyones wireless screwing up10:00
Ben64!anyone | media-centre10:00
ubottumedia-centre: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.10:00
media-centreyes or no10:01
media-centreis anybodys wireless screwing up10:01
Ben64ask a real question10:02
et_i was going to say10:02
et_i just talked to your mom10:02
cfhowlett!anyone|media-centre:10:02
ubottumedia-centre:: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.10:02
pbt!topic10:02
TomGreentimes259:27] <Ben64> sound is much easier to fix than a mangled system10:02
ubottuPlease read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic10:02
WoostaHi. I've always add a respawn line to inittab, but now it's gone does anyone have a quick way to do the same in upstart without learning everything about upstart?10:02
et_and she is having wireless probs too10:02
et_lol10:02
TomGreentimes2the sound problem on 12.04 and 12.10 affecting certain people hasnt been solved yet10:02
fhspenom3Hello! My young brother delete grub folder, and boot from nautillus with ROOT!!! privilages :( i forgot to close.. what i do now???10:02
TomGreentimes2just google it ffs10:03
media-centrewhy are you guys being smart asses10:03
media-centresimple question10:03
et_but ill come over and fix that... and maybe give you a spanking10:03
media-centresimple answer10:03
et_at the same time10:03
et_or cut your allowance10:03
media-centrehow hard can it be10:03
Ben64TomGreentimes2: theres results for "sound problem" on every single ubuntu release10:03
TomGreentimes2https://www.google.ca/search?sclient=psy-ab&hl=en&tbo=d&site=&source=hp&q=sound+stopped+working+ubuntu+12.10+12.04&btnG=Search10:03
et_umm10:03
Ben64et_: please don't10:03
cfhowlettfhspenom3: reboot from live cd and attempt grub install from there10:03
et_okay10:03
TomGreentimes2yeah10:03
et_lets srs up10:03
TomGreentimes2but right now thats a non solved issue10:03
et_to be truthful10:03
TomGreentimes2usually i always find a very obscure way to fix things :310:04
et_that was a dumb question10:04
TomGreentimes2but this time there wasnt10:04
et_and you werent specific10:04
TomGreentimes2i'll just use 11.10 until it stop getting upgrades10:04
TomGreentimes2deal.with.it10:04
fhspenom3cfhowlett, thanks, i do that10:04
Ben64TomGreentimes2: "Ditto here. Sounds was randomly cutting out, and this fixed it. – Just a guy Oct 25 at 2:53"10:04
Ben64looks like its solved, oh happy day10:04
TomGreentimes2yeah10:04
cfhowlettfhspenom3: good luck10:04
TomGreentimes2and then i did exctly what this thread says10:04
TomGreentimes2and it didnt work10:04
et_ya know10:04
media-centreso is anyone gonna answer my question10:04
TomGreentimes2and other people say it doesnt work10:04
et_reverting isnt a bad idea10:04
TomGreentimes2anyway, i cant convince you10:04
Ben64TomGreentimes2: how about you come back in here with 12.04 and we can fix it10:04
TomGreentimes2:)10:05
et_i have a question10:05
TomGreentimes2No10:05
Ben64then... bye10:05
media-centrewell10:05
et_now with 12.10 if you pick install 3rd party and also update on the installation... will that just auto install the nvidia drivers.. and i cant get dual monitors to work...10:06
media-centrenone of you arre gonna answer my question then10:06
WoostaAnyone help with my upstart question?10:06
Ben64media-centre: ask a real question10:06
TomGreentimes211.10 still supported means, you dont have to help me, but it is legitimate hat i can come here and sk around10:06
et_yes media10:06
et_i will10:06
media-centreit is10:06
et_no10:06
Ben64TomGreentimes2: your 11.10 is not supported here10:06
et_i am not having probs10:06
et_at all10:06
FloodBot1et_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.10:06
et_with wireless10:07
media-centreis your wirless sqrewing up10:07
acerimmer_media-centre: no.  next question.10:07
media-centreweather it is will determin if its my pc or somthing else10:07
acerimmer_media-centre: oooor you could actually provide some details10:07
media-centremy wireless is doing tth following10:08
Ben64media-centre: listen to arnold j rimmer over here, you should provide details on what problems you may be having, our experiences with wireless do not affect you10:08
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media-centreconnecting disconnecting10:08
media-centretakking time loading websites10:08
et_cuz if i pick software sources10:08
et_for nivida10:08
TomGreentimes2http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/amd64/libc6/download10:08
et_its lame10:08
et_i dont even get a dt hardly10:09
media-centreand not connecting at all10:09
TomGreentimes2im gonna try and install this, and if it turns out that it says it will delete 99% of my apps10:09
et_for some reason i dont even show restricted drivers10:09
et_and i miss hat10:09
TomGreentimes2well, upgrading kernel is never sueful kids10:09
et_that10:09
media-centreim only thinking its either my computers going down10:09
et_ media10:09
Ben64!enter | et_10:09
ubottuet_: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!10:09
et_you shouldnt have to mess with kernal10:10
media-centreor their doing maintinence work on the outside cables10:10
et_to fix that10:10
et_and you are on the wrong path to solution10:10
Ben64et_: so are you running nvidia's drivers or not?10:10
et_it has not much to do with that10:10
media-centreor its that 4tg crap blocking signals10:10
codfatherHi, can someone help me with a question on the latest dnsmasq config in Ubuntu 12.10.10:10
TomGreentimes2hahaha10:10
* joey8 sighs with all this DONT DO THIS and DONT DO THAT10:10
et_ben6410:10
media-centreis that enough details for you10:10
TomGreentimes2it does not even cause a single problem10:10
media-centrecan you answer my question now10:11
et_ben64 i just installed 12.10 non lts10:11
TomGreentimes2you heard that ben :p10:11
et_and to be honest10:11
TomGreentimes2libc6 2.15 is installing, no warnings of any conflicts possible, it just installs,   i win the prize10:11
et_thats something i should check10:11
et_i have a feeling its not10:11
et_but it might be10:11
et_what is cmd to check10:12
Ben64et_: come on, use more commas and less enters. try "nvidia-settings"10:12
media-centrebut none of you want to answer10:12
et_ohh when i install nvidia-settings it gives me a wonky error10:12
yellowdogI tried ubuntu 12.10 using virtualbox yesterday. I love it! It's very good!10:13
media-centrecos youd rather be a bunch of smart asses10:13
acerimmer_media-centre: maybe not the best way to get help from volunteers ...10:13
Ben64media-centre: it's a stupid question with no relevance10:13
codfatherWith 12.04 dnasmasq would writeo out what was in /etc/resolv.conf into /var/run/nm-dns-dnsmasq.conf - but this has now been moved to management with dbus, and I can't find out where.10:13
media-centrewell its one simple question10:13
codfatherJust a pointer to docs or a site that explains the current set-up would be great.10:14
joey8media-centre: good way of getting a response10:14
media-centreis anyones wirless screwing up10:14
Ben64et_: how about "dpkg --get-selections | grep -i nvidia"10:14
media-centrei told you why10:14
Ben64media-centre: stop10:14
acerimmer_media-centre: asked and answered10:14
et_it says10:14
media-centreyes or no10:15
acerimmer_media-centre: no.  next.10:15
et_you do not appear to be using nvidia x driver.. blah blah edit this x config file10:15
media-centreand if it is what are you on bt virgin talk tak10:15
media-centreright10:15
et_but i think it migt be more of an xorg issue10:15
et_than driver10:15
media-centrewhat provider are you on10:15
media-centrebt10:16
et_or os oriented10:16
Ben64et_: could you pastebin the response to the last thing i asked you to run?10:16
et_sure10:16
Ben64media-centre: you might want to call your isp. we're not here to troubleshoot your connection10:16
gordonjcpmedia-centre: your ISP won't make any difference to whether or not your wifi works10:16
et_its soo small i wont even pb it10:17
Jordan_Umedia-centre: Taking polls about poeple's internet connection, in an international IRC channel, is not going to be very affective and will generate a lot of unhelpfull clutter in this busy channel. Please stop, and please be respectfull of others in this channel.10:17
media-centrewell ive connected to my modem before and i couldnt access websites because of maintenence out side10:17
et_nvidia-current-updatesdeinstall10:17
et_nvidia-settingsinstall10:17
gordonjcpmedia-centre: so contact your ISP if you have a fault10:18
gordonjcpmedia-centre: it's got nothing to do with Ubuntu10:18
et_that was the response10:18
Ben64et_: try "sudo apt-get install nvidia-current" and then reboot. after that you should have functioning nvidia drivers10:18
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media-centrewel ubuntu uses tthe internet10:18
et_hmm10:18
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et_okay roger that10:18
media-centreand it is famous for its servers10:19
et_i think i did that before but will try again10:19
Ben64et_: if apt prints an error then rebooting is unnecessary :)10:19
acerimmer_media-centre: try the solution provided.10:19
media-centrei probably will10:19
nmljsomeone had installed windows 8 and ubuntu in machine?i have question10:19
media-centrei just figure 4g comingg ut it might of been that10:19
Jordan_U!anyone | nmlj10:19
ubottunmlj: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.10:19
et_nah it seems to be working from what i see in term...10:20
joey8HEY GUYS - what is this stuff, i have just installed linux- can someone teach me linux - quick - urgent - like respond now man - geeze10:20
et_brb gonna reboot10:20
nmljsorry about my bad english :(10:20
auronandace!manual | joey810:20
ubottujoey8: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/10:20
media-centrethanx for the advice10:20
media-centredespit it taking a while10:21
media-centredespite*10:21
media-centrecurse this keyboard10:21
nmljdoes anyone had browse windows 8 drive with ubuntu live cd?10:21
Jordan_Unmlj: What problem are you having?10:21
codfatherHello, did anyone see my question? Can anyone see my posts?10:22
cfhowlettcodfather: yes we see you.10:22
codfathercool, just wanted to check10:22
cfhowlett@patience|codfather:10:22
Jordan_Ucodfather: Yes, we can see your question. If nobody knows the answer to your question, nobody will answer. Try asking again in a few minutes.10:22
nmlji want ask, it still able to browse windows 8 drive with ubuntu live cd?10:23
Jordan_Unmlj: Yes.10:23
henkpoleyDoes Linux have something like Darwin's Fusion Drive ? Where a files are written to an SSD and unused files spill over to a slower spinning disk.10:23
cfhowlettnmlj: don't see why not10:24
nmljOk thanks Jordan_U :)10:24
Jordan_Uhenkpoley: btrfs is developing hot tracking, I believe that xfs already has some ability to do similar things in conjunction with LVM/RAID but I don't know the details.10:25
codfatherMore info - the file for the dbus config is /etc/dbus-1/system.d/dnsmasq.conf - but the contents , don't seem to offer any clue as to where what was once in /etc/resolv.conf is now stored. The reason behind the question is to do with being able to see what domain and search parameters are getting set on my Lappies.10:25
Jordan_Ucodfather: If nothing else, nm-tool should give you information about the name servers being used.10:25
henkpoleyJordan_U: ah, I'm on JFS and Ext4 at the moment.. I'll look into those.10:25
henkpoleyJordan_U: brtfs is rather experimental isn't it ?10:26
Jordan_Uhenkpoley: Yes, very much so.10:26
codfatherJordan_U - ok I will try that now10:26
henkpoleyJordan_U: I guess ZFS has it too :P But I would need to set up a (Open)Solaris NAS to use it stably..10:27
codfatherJordan_U: yes it gives simple info on the current DNS server, but it is the contents of what was in /etc/resolv.conf I'm after. It must be being stored somewhere ;-)10:28
auronandace!zfs | henkpoley10:28
ubottuhenkpoley: For information concerning ZFS and Ubuntu, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZFS10:28
auronandace!resolvconf | codfather10:29
ubottucodfather: resolvconf is a set of scripts that's used to manage /etc/resolv.conf in 12.04 and later, for more information please see: http://www.stgraber.org/2012/02/24/dns-in-ubuntu-12-04/ and https://help.ubuntu.com/12.10/serverguide/network-configuration.html#name-resolution10:29
clarezoeHi, http://paste.ubuntu.org.cn/158809 I have two "online accounts" in my settings, what's the difference? anything wrong?10:30
codfatherubottu: Thanks for the response, but I'm completely happy with resolv.conf - the problem is with 12.10, it is no longer used. DNSmasq is used, and while it used to move the contents to another file in /var/run , it is now using dbus and I can't find out where the information supplied by the DHCP server to clients is being stored. Thats the bit I need to sort out. I don't wish to revert back to using resolv.conf, just understand how the new system works, an10:32
codfatherd where the data is stored.10:32
ubottucodfather: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)10:32
et_okay now i dont have a sidebar just a plain empty desktop10:36
et_i had to use terminal to start irc10:36
et_or anything10:36
yellowdoghi et_10:37
et_grrr10:37
et_sudo apt-get install nvidia-current10:38
et_i just did that and now i dont have a working dt10:38
et_well no sidebar or menu or anything10:38
et_i mean i guess i can do everything via terminal10:39
et_but thats kinda silly10:39
z4139jqtry compiz --replace?10:40
et_well i dont think that will work10:40
et_but i will try10:40
et_i think its an x thing10:40
henkpoleywhat is 'the' command to sleep your desktop? Must be some dbus send trick.10:41
et_ctrl alt l10:41
d7machfirst time user, hello world?10:42
auronandace!manual | d7mach10:42
ubottud7mach: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/10:42
et_okay it did give an error10:42
et_Compiz (opengl) - Fatal: glXQueryExtensionsString is NULL for screen 010:42
et_but i am also 2 monitors10:42
et_it should not hinder a driver working10:43
et_at least i would think it shouldnt... but then again nix can be a bit bitchy sometimes10:44
TomGreentimes2the only driver ubuntu doesnt see which win7 does for me is my silicon-tech pseudo raid card, which i got no idea what it is for...i thought you managed raids at the bios level anyway10:44
ikoniaTomGreentimes2: that brand has poor linux support10:45
ikoniaTomGreentimes2: it's also a "fakeraid" card10:45
TomGreentimes2well, i dont use raid anyways10:45
TomGreentimes2i have zero hard drives that are the same10:45
TomGreentimes2i keep twins just for gpu10:45
ikoniawhat ?10:46
ikoniayou keep twins ?? for gpu ?10:46
dwarderi have a video stream of unknows codec how do i find out/10:46
dwarder?10:46
J1vlc10:46
dwarderit works in a browser10:46
TomGreentimes2how do i codec'd10:46
et_i found this10:46
auronandaceTomGreentimes2: harddrives have nothing to do with graphics cards10:46
et_this might be helpful for someone... http://64.50.236.52/pub/ubuntu/pool/restricted/n/nvidia-graphics-drivers-96-updates/10:46
TomGreentimes2no they dont10:46
TomGreentimes2i just said that the only pieces i have in twin pairs are gpu cards.10:47
TomGreentimes2anyways10:47
et_i dont know why they got rid of restricted drivers10:47
TomGreentimes2i got a better idea dwarder10:47
TomGreentimes2pm me10:47
et_i think the lts has em but the regular doesnt10:47
lhavelundTomGreentimes2: Keep support in the channel; It's super helpful so others can see how issues are resolved, too.10:47
auronandaceet_: they moved it to a tab in software sources, thats all10:48
TomGreentimes2wel10:48
TomGreentimes2okay10:48
TomGreentimes2thing is, i have made my own deb here for all possible awesomeness video wise by recompiling x264 into ffmpeg and a few other codecs10:49
TomGreentimes2i love checkinstall and im mad i only got to know about it so late10:49
TomGreentimes2can I have dd do a ghost of the ext4 partition it is on, but only of the space it occupies10:54
TomGreentimes2because...surely sometthing came up since then if not10:54
TomGreentimes2remastersystem looked promising until i saw the 4gb limit10:54
Jordan_UTomGreentimes2: Please be carefull about distributing .deb files made with checkinstall. While checkinstall is nice, it does *not* make .deb files which are fit for distribution. Also, it would be a little early to recommend a recompiled ffmpeg for dwarder when we hardly know anything about their problem (we don't even know what codec the video is or what player they're using).10:54
rumpe1TomGreentimes2, no, you can't. you can use partimage though.10:54
TomGreentimes2so you cant really add a lot of software you want in10:54
bazhangTomGreentimes2, is there an actual question there?10:54
TomGreentimes2<TomGreentimes2> can I have dd do a ghost of the ext4 partition it is on, but only of the space it occupies10:55
TomGreentimes2forgot the punctuation sign, i see grammar nazis are on full guard still here ;)10:55
TomGreentimes2thanks rumpel10:55
TomGreentimes2will check out what you have mentioned10:56
ShapeShifter499hi10:57
ShapeShifter499I have a netbook I want to tether with my iPhone, however this is through one of those non-offical methods that require a proxy, is it possible to have Ubuntu route ALL internet traffic through that specific proxy?10:58
gabstouhi everydbody10:58
et_auronandace i tried all those drivers that where there with the same result...10:59
et_et want ya nick?11:00
et_okay11:01
gabstouI have a problem maybe you can help me ... Im on Ubuntu  and i use notepad ++ with wine for my website . When i open the HTML file with mozilla the html code is on the screen but when i open this file with explorer on wine the webpage is good . it is a compatibilty bug ?11:03
TomGreentimes2rumpel :(11:03
TomGreentimes2Partimage does not support ext411:03
TomGreentimes2damnit11:03
TomGreentimes2i liked the fact i could save my backup on network, would have sent it all to my vps11:03
et_gabstou why use wine to check a site11:04
et_im sure its fine...11:04
rumpe1gabstou, maybe because line-breaks are different on windows and linux? ... just a guess11:04
et_i mean useing diff browsers is a reasonable idea.. but using a vm11:05
et_i wouldnt rely on that11:05
gabstoudo you think it's better to edit with vim ?11:05
et_no11:05
et_i dont11:05
et_i have recently messed with bluegriffon11:06
et_and i kinda like it11:06
gabstoui'll check bluegriffon11:06
et_besides that i would use a windows box and dreamweaver suite11:06
et_i loved that11:07
et_as outdated as it is11:07
tiger1977Hey there. i have a problem in 12.10 ubuntu. how do i change the standard language to another11:11
tiger1977it's in the office package11:11
TomGreentimes2im gonna be trying this folly of trying to install libc 2.15 on oneiric...apparently i can save my arse with locking my system in synaptic right11:12
TomGreentimes2?11:12
TomGreentimes2i wouldnt mind screwing up if i could just take the time to make your own ppa with all the software you want to have in11:13
rumpe1TomGreentimes2, or you could generate a list of all installed packages at some point and feed that to the package manager... much easier i think.11:14
TomGreentimes2hm..ya11:14
TomGreentimes2is that what scrollkeeper is ?11:14
TomGreentimes2btw, sorry, not a noob to linux generally, bu t i hadnt used in 4 years and for most of the 2000's i was on arch11:15
rumpe1TomGreentimes2, don't know any "scrollkeeper". synaptic offers that feature and dpkg too.11:15
auronandace!clone | TomGreentimes211:15
ubottuTomGreentimes2: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « aptitude  --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install » (this may cause problems with multiarch before 12.10) - See also !automate11:15
TomGreentimes2well, i just want to have something that isnt long to do, that guarantees that in the eventuality i need to reinstall, i can have all my software and all my settings as they were when i click on repair or bring back my stuff :)11:16
TomGreentimes2scrollkeepr i keep seeing in ubuntu rumpel.11:17
TomGreentimes2This dummy package is designed to facilitate upgrades for systems with scrollkeeper installed. It will bring its replacement, named rarian, instead.  You can safely remove this package.11:17
TomGreentimes2i dont have it installed right now but it seems to appear after some important updates, write things somewhere and remove itself11:17
TomGreentimes2whats the way to do exactly what you told me about in synaptic please ?11:18
TomGreentimes2because i am willing to risk installing libc 2.15 on oneiric11:18
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TomGreentimes2i got its latest possible kernel damnit, i thought itd be enough11:19
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TomGreentimes2rumpel, im not sure synaptic will be able to get everything back because some material is from PPA's only11:20
TomGreentimes2and not basic distros11:21
auronandaceTomGreentimes2: why are you using 11.10?11:21
TomGreentimes2...11:21
TomGreentimes2i dont want to explain sorry11:21
TomGreentimes2scroll up11:21
TomGreentimes2*again11:22
auronandaceTomGreentimes2: i don't suppose you broke your arch install (which is why you are trying ubuntu now)?11:23
TomGreentimes2lets say i have 2 high end sound cards and none of them will work for more than 2 weeks on the 12th editions, i can put alsa-utils master sound to the max and i will a very strong buzzing and see bars indicating sound is being played but it wasnt coming out11:23
gordonjcpTomGreentimes2: which sound card?11:24
TomGreentimes2everything works fine on 11.10, so until that well known problem is solved, not changing11:24
MonkeyDustwhy use something that doesnt work?11:24
TomGreentimes2anyway 11.10 is still getting updates, i will switch when it doesnt anymore obivously11:24
TomGreentimes2monkeydust : exactly11:24
MonkeyDustTomGreentimes2  i'm talking about the sound cards11:25
TomGreentimes2where's the option to do exactly what you spoke about rumpel11:25
TomGreentimes2the sound cards work well11:25
gordonjcpTomGreentimes2: what kind of soundcard are you using, that's giving you this problem?11:25
TomGreentimes2i'd boot back into wondows and all would be fine11:25
TomGreentimes2and debian 611:25
TomGreentimes2and ubuntu 11.1011:25
TomGreentimes2¬_¬11:25
FloodBot1TomGreentimes2: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.11:25
TomGreentimes2look if you're all gonna gang me and repeat like robots get 12.04, i'm out11:26
TomGreentimes2not, gonna, work11:26
gordonjcpTomGreentimes2: I asked you a perfectly simple question11:26
TomGreentimes2im also not interested in discussing this11:26
auronandaceTomGreentimes2: you have a problem with your sound card, people want to help you fix it11:26
TomGreentimes2why dont you browse google and look at all the people having problems with in 12.x when they didnt with 11 and 10 and 9 etc.11:27
TomGreentimes2:)11:27
TomGreentimes2with their sound11:27
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TomGreentimes212.10 was the worst offender sound just stopped working altogether11:27
gordonjcpTomGreentimes2: okay, but what kind of sound card are you using?11:27
yellowdogHi, I am new to Ubuntu 12.10, I like firefox browser very much.11:28
auronandaceTomGreentimes2: so you don't want to say what sound card you got so people can't help you fix the issue? sounds rather counter-intuitive to joining a support channel11:28
TomGreentimes2i guess im telling you guys i remove unity cos i think its an abomination and i always put back gnome classic that i'm doing ubuntu wrong :)11:28
gordonjcpTomGreentimes2: the great thing about Linux is you've got the ability to choose to do that11:28
TomGreentimes2i tried like 20 different things from browsing the internet, chatrooms are never as productive11:28
TomGreentimes2i ask simpler things11:29
MonkeyDustTomGreentimes2  i use classic too, nothing wrong with that11:29
gordonjcpTomGreentimes2: well, since you won't describe the problem, you won't get much of an answer11:29
TomGreentimes2like, how do i make this list of all my packages with synaptic so i can load it right up in case i screw things up with the thing I want to do11:29
gordonjcpTomGreentimes2: there should be a handy app for that11:29
TomGreentimes2gordonjcp, you weren't part of the discussion...you dont even know why i want to do a "risky" move11:30
yellowdoghi gordonjcp11:30
auronandace!attitude | TomGreentimes211:30
ubottuTomGreentimes2: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines11:30
MonkeyDustTomGreentimes2  this is how I do it http://paste.ubuntu.com/1407521/11:30
gordonjcpTomGreentimes2: right, but as someone deeply involved in the Linux audio subsystem I'm really interested to find out why you're having problems, and what with11:30
TomGreentimes2to me no risky moves exists when you can have a restore point, and its not just a windows thing, at work the lab is all controlled by  solaris os computers and they also have similar system restores11:30
TomGreentimes2i have one high quality and one low quality sound card, both work right now in 11.1011:31
gordonjcpokay, and what are they?11:31
TomGreentimes2in 12.04 the sound wasnt able to amplify anymore11:31
TomGreentimes2in 12.10, the sound just outright stopped11:31
gordonjcpyeah, that wasn't what I asked11:31
gordonjcpwhat are the sound cards?11:31
TomGreentimes2see, the thing is i am busy, i have something i want to do since a while now, still waiting for the last bit of info i need and then i leave irc and go back to make things work11:32
gordonjcpTomGreentimes2: okay, I give up11:32
gordonjcpTomGreentimes2: you're either trolling or whining11:32
gordonjcpTomGreentimes2: if you don't want support, go and annoy some other channel11:32
TomGreentimes2oh so isee, i dont have time to discuss sound cards, so im trolling11:32
MonkeyDustor show off with newest hardware11:32
auronandaceTomGreentimes2: why are you being so evasive? tell him what sound cards you have11:32
gordonjcpTomGreentimes2: I don't want to discuss sound cards, I want you to tell me what you have11:33
TomGreentimes2i am always in the middle of typing a sentence11:33
gordonjcpit's a very simple question11:33
Ben64the time you're wasting whining about stuff you could have typed the two models11:33
TomGreentimes2when someone else pops up with another thing i need to talk about11:33
TomGreentimes2i dont know the model names by heart11:33
TomGreentimes2let me go look at the sound settings11:33
TomGreentimes2??11:33
TomGreentimes2k11:33
TomGreentimes2?and its a waste of my time11:33
gordonjcpTomGreentimes2: pastebin the output of lspci, even11:34
TomGreentimes2still11:34
TomGreentimes2no11:34
MonkeyDustTomGreentimes2  and don't ht enter too often, it's getting a headache11:34
TomGreentimes2i wont do things cos you suggst them, whoever you are11:34
Ben64lspci | pastebinit11:34
Ben64so easy11:34
gordonjcpTomGreentimes2: "lspci | pastebinit" and then paste the URL in here11:34
gordonjcp!attitude | TomGreentimes211:34
ubottuTomGreentimes2: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines11:34
TomGreentimes2k, gangin' up on me for my specs11:34
TomGreentimes2cya11:34
gordonjcpyou know what, I don't care11:34
gordonjcpwell sod him, then11:34
gordonjcpwanker11:35
Ben64he was here earlier doing the same stuff. upgrading 11.10 to 3.2 kernel, trying to upgrade libc11:35
Ben64i tried to warn him that it'd likely break everything, but he wouldn't listen11:35
gordonjcpthat's exactly why I stopped using and contributing to Arch11:35
Ben64i tried to explain that it's easier to fix sound on 12.04 than to make a frankenbuntu system, but oh well, its not my problem11:36
yugandharHi11:38
yugandharls -l | awk '/\<(a|x).*\.conf$/ { print $8 }' is not giving any output on my system11:39
yugandharbut it is working on the other machine11:39
yugandharplease help me11:39
MonkeyDustyugandhar  better ask in #bash11:39
ActionParsnipyugandhar: +1 for asking in 3bash11:39
ActionParsnip#bash11:40
yugandharok.. thanks11:40
dwarderi have a video strean on http port from my ip webcam, i know that besides port 80 it uses something else for video streaming, how do i find out which port does it use else?11:40
gordonjcpdwarder: nmap it?11:41
SunBlackconn @samba-technical11:42
gordonjcpSunBlack: /join11:43
gordonjcpand # not @11:43
SunBlackkkkk, truth, years without irc.11:45
simplewi have 2 kernels installed, and to change bootsplash i did run "sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth" and "sudo update-initramfs -u"  but i continue with the same bootsplash, alreadu did this 2 times, ANY HINT?11:46
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ActionParsnipdwarder: you can use nmap to scan the IP11:47
ActionParsnipsimplew: did you select the new splash when you ran the first command11:47
simplewActionParsnip: yes, of course11:48
simplewActionParsnip: it went fine with the last kernel version but not with the other kernel11:49
ActionParsnipsimplew: did you run:  sudo update-grub   as well?11:49
simplewActionParsnip: what for?11:49
dwarderActionParsnip: only 80 port11:49
ActionParsnipsimplew: Ive seen plymouth tweaking guides that have it named11:49
dwarderActionParsnip: with nmap -v -A11:49
dwarderipaddress11:49
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simplewActionParsnip: is there anyway to test changes?11:50
dwarderActionParsnip: does it mean that video streamed on 80 port?11:53
dwarderActionParsnip: and if i need to nat it i only need to nat this port?11:53
ActionParsnipdwarder: if that is the only listening port, then yes11:53
dwarderActionParsnip: that is what nmap said11:54
ActionParsnipsimplew: reboot seems to be the only option. I've seen a few guides but the commands don't seem to exist11:54
apTeMkuHi11:54
Rooster|2quit11:54
ActionParsnipdwarder: you could connect to the stream using mplayer / vlc etc11:55
dwarderupon login to vpn i got stdin: is not a tty12:14
elena-IKHow do I unpack split zip archives (.zip .z01 .z02 .z03 and so on)? If I try with unzip on the command line or ark, only part of the archive gets extracted. ark shows a lot more files than it actually extracts. If I try with file-roller, I get "An error occurred while loading the archive.".12:16
jribelena-IK: unzip the first file (the .zip)12:16
elena-IKjrib: that's what I'm doing12:16
jribelena-IK: how was it created?12:17
elena-IKjrib: don't know12:17
elena-IKjrib: but I'll ask the creator :)12:18
jribelena-IK: try catting all of them in order into one NEW file and see if that works...12:18
almoxarifeelena-IK: you are not over-writing the content of the folders with dup zips?12:19
jribelena-IK: see the first note in the BUGS section of "unzip"12:20
elena-IKjrib: oh, ok. thank you.12:20
almoxarifeark is pretty straight forward12:21
jribelena-IK: I meant: see the first note in the BUGS section of "man unzip"12:21
elena-IKjrib: yes, I understood that. and I said thanks for that, because that BUGS section seems to offer the solution.12:22
jribelena-IK: cool, no problem :)12:23
ActionParsnip!info zipsplit12:25
ubottuPackage zipsplit does not exist in quantal12:25
ActionParsniphttp://www.ubuntugeek.com/gnome-split-file-splitter-for-gnome-desktop.html    supports up to Precise :)12:27
ActionParsnip!info nautilus-gnome-split12:27
ubottuPackage nautilus-gnome-split does not exist in quantal12:27
ActionParsnipthats the package to use :)12:27
InspectorCluseauubuntu how to for split files http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=85959612:30
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ztguhey12:41
SpaceRockethow to change the Unity launcher location?12:42
ztguWhere can I get help with choosing a laptop for linux?12:42
MonkeyDust!hardware > ztgu start here12:42
ubottuztgu, please see my private message12:42
ztguHey MonkeyDust, noone at ! hardware12:44
ActionParsnipSpaceRocket: the launcher has to be on the left12:45
ztguThe launcher can be at the bottom too12:45
ActionParsnipSpaceRocket: there is a PPA to move it to the bottom but it's known to break things12:45
ztguhttp://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/how-to-move-unity-launcher-to-bottom-of.html12:45
ztguhttp://ishouvik.com/move-unity-launcher-to-bottom-12-0411-1012:45
MonkeyDustztgu  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport12:45
ztgubeen there done that12:46
ActionParsnipztgu: http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/12:46
ztguWhat would you guys recommend:12:46
ztguhttp://www.msi.com/product/nb/GE60-0NC.html#/?div=Driver&os=Win8%206412:46
ztguor this one:12:46
ztguhttp://www.sony.no/product/vaio-s-serien/svs1512z9e12:46
FloodBot1ztgu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.12:46
MonkeyDustztgu  wrong channel for that sort of questions12:47
ztguWhat channel then?12:47
MonkeyDustztgu  try #ubuntu-offtopic12:47
InspectorCluseauztgu, ask in ##linux12:47
ActionParsnipztgu: make sure your CPU doesn't have an inbuilt GPU if you are having an Nvidia GPU12:48
ActionParsnipztgu: Optimus does not play well in Linux12:48
Pantsman0quit12:49
BluesKajHowdy all12:50
ActionParsniphi BluesKaj12:50
BluesKajhi ActionParsnip12:50
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TravisGood morning12:54
lieanu$112:58
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ponyThe color is abnormal when the computer with ubuntu is connected with the LED TV. How to solve it ?13:01
BluesKajpony, what kind of connection ?13:02
BluesKajand graphics card?13:02
ponyHDMI13:02
ponyRADEON13:03
susundbergalways or only with youtube videos?13:05
susundbergoh the youtube problem was with nvidia cards, nevermind ..13:06
BluesKajpony, does catalyst control have any optional colour settings ?13:06
ponyTry all the settings, No solution.13:08
BoozeWoozhelps :SS13:09
BoozeWoozi boeied... ssd harddrives, but boot time is still > 120seocnds??13:10
BluesKajpony, describe "abnormal "13:10
ponycolor seems like black white13:11
BluesKajwhat about the tv colour settings ?13:12
ponyThe TV color is  normal under windows 7.13:12
ActionParsnipBoozeWooz: have you tested your RAM?13:13
BoozeWooztested ? for what :o ?13:13
BoozeWoozhmm i dont get this kind of issues but13:13
ActionParsnipBoozeWooz: bad parts of RAM, what else?13:13
BoozeWoozhmm i have bootspeed thing image13:13
BoozeWoozi show you?13:13
ActionParsnippony: is there a TV output setting in BIOS or in the settings13:13
ActionParsnippony: in nvidia-settings if you use an nvidia GPU (maybe)13:14
BoozeWoozhttp://i.imgur.com/lbyLB.png13:15
BoozeWoozfrom here, my bootschart13:15
BluesKajit's ati radeon. ActionParsnip13:15
ActionParsnipBluesKaj: i see13:15
ponyTOSHIBA L750D-C11W,   The same computer works well under win7 and color abnormal under ubuntu.13:15
ActionParsnipBoozeWooz: i'd start with a RAM test13:15
BoozeWoozow-ke.. hmm ramtest13:16
schauer97I have a radeon to(Radeon HD 6800 Series) and it don't work very good13:16
BoozeWooz:o13:16
BoozeWoozsend from iside back AMD ;) if its no werk13:16
TravisDoes anyone here have any experience with a Dell 1450 wireless card (internal)?  I have a Dell Inspiron 1100 laptop on which Ubuntu won't find my card.13:16
ActionParsnipBoozeWooz: seems nothing happens for a while13:16
ActionParsnipTravis: what wifi chip does it use?13:17
BoozeWoozuhhh13:17
BoozeWoozyes theres a big problems with it :S13:17
BoozeWoozits a laptop T43... i made some hackeries to make it allow SATA13:17
TravisBroadcom, I think13:17
ActionParsnipTravis: run:   sudo lshw -C network      then you will know13:17
ActionParsnipTravis: saves you having to guess13:18
craigbass1976I've got a laptop in front of me.  The owner is paranoid -- while his wife was doing an update, he freaked and stopped it half way through.  I'm stuck at an initramfs prompt after a "ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/..... does not exist.  Dropping to a shell!" message.13:18
Travisyup!  Broadcom BCM430613:18
ActionParsnipcraigbass1976: I'd boot to liveCD and fsck the partition13:18
ActionParsnip!broadcom | Travis13:18
ubottuTravis: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx13:18
BoozeWoozDec  3 10:24:23 cinka kernel: [  979.088041] ata2: link is slow to respond, please be patient (ready=0)13:18
BoozeWoozDec  3 10:24:28 cinka kernel: [  984.072050] ata2: device not ready (errno=-16), forcing hardreset13:18
BoozeWoozDec  3 10:24:28 cinka kernel: [  984.072067] ata2: soft resetting link13:18
BoozeWooztheres are what i get13:19
BoozeWoozdata2: link is slow :S please wait...13:19
BoozeWoozand it keeps for that.. entire time i think??13:19
ActionParsnipBoozeWooz: have you tried a different hdd cable, or switching to a different controller13:19
BoozeWoozits putted inside laptop, only 1 wire13:19
ActionParsnipBoozeWooz: does't sound healthy then, do you have the latest bios?13:20
BoozeWoozhmmm look, there was some accident :P13:20
BoozeWoozwith water, caused some smoke when it came on the motherboard13:20
BoozeWoozand the ATA controller of the motherboard was friend because of that13:20
elena-IKjrib: that worked. thanks again.13:20
craigbass1976BoozeWooz, You can't let the smoke out of a computer...13:20
BoozeWoozno13:21
BoozeWoozbut.. the harddrive thing was toast13:21
BoozeWoozSo, i picked up this CDrom -> sata conector13:21
BoozeWoozand the harddisk is now attached to sata connector of my cdrom :o13:21
BoozeWoozi think evil spirits inside ATA controller dont want to go away and cause this staff....13:21
craigbass1976ActionParsnip, Ahh, I remember now.  Some of this I did last week when I first sat down with it.  The filesystem is clean.  I also think (but can't verify) that I finished the update somehow with either a live cd and chroot or something.13:25
drRocktopusanyone have any luck installing ubuntu server on a newer lenovo desktop machine?  keep getting a no bottable system error :(13:25
BoozeWoozvat13:26
craigbass1976drRocktopus, It's not that windows quick boot scheme causing trouble is it?13:26
drRocktopusthink so...13:26
drRocktopusjust learning about all this uefi stuff now13:26
drRocktopus**SHAKING HEAD**13:26
ActionParsnipdrRocktopus: why install server,wouldn't you want a desktop OS?13:26
craigbass1976drRocktopus, I only remember hearing people complaining about it before the rubber ever hit the road; I didn't realize it ever got implemented13:26
drRocktopuslast server I built was 10 years ago lol13:27
BoozeWoozwaabutu13:27
BoozeWoozmaks ded13:27
vitimiti(·_·)/13:27
BoozeWoozhei \o/13:27
drRocktopusmight try doing it from the liveCD desktop version next13:27
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ActionParsnipdrRocktopus: why are you installing the server OS on a laptop?13:28
drRocktopusits a desktop13:28
ActionParsnipdrRocktopus: the server CD doesn't install a desktop UI13:28
drRocktopuslenovo ideacentre K4 series13:28
drRocktopusmight be the quickboot issue...13:28
drRocktopus*might* be a lot of things at this point...13:29
drRocktopushehe13:29
drRocktopusdefeinitly going to try the desktop disk in 32bit this time13:29
ActionParsnipdrRocktopus: do you want a desktop OS?13:29
BoozeWoozgrr ><"13:29
Travisok this is screwy.13:29
drRocktopusI'm trying to put together a server...13:29
ActionParsnipdrRocktopus: that's not my question13:29
TravisOne command says it's a BCM4306.  Another says it's a 430913:29
BoozeWoozall my packages is broken :/13:29
halalbananai got a serious problem13:29
drRocktopusbut I don't thikn there are too many differences between the desktop and the server versions of ubuntu 12... no?13:30
BoozeWoozyes there is13:30
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ActionParsnipdrRocktopus: yes, the server install is pure CLI13:30
ActionParsniphalalbanana: wassup?13:30
OpenSorceSomeone correct this theory for me.... I only have a 10g /home partition (poor planning on my part I know) Steam installs my games in ~/.steam. If I repartition my Windows drive, and get back say 50g of hdd and copy the current contents of ~/.steam to it then mount the new partition as ~/.steam I should get a .steam directory with 50g of space in it, right?13:30
drRocktopusbut the desktop version still has all the services: apache, php, mail server etc correct?13:31
ActionParsnipOpenSorce: exactly13:31
halalbananai need gnome2 with quanstal13:31
halalbananawill it blend?13:31
ActionParsnipdrRocktopus: you can install those on the desktop OS, there is no restriction13:31
omid8bimoanyone? im getting too much of this err on my dmesg. does it matter? TCPv6: Possible SYN flooding on port 80. Dropping request13:31
ActionParsniphalalbanana: there are only unofficial unsupported forks13:31
PicidrRocktopus: server and desktop share the same repositories, but different default packages.13:31
drRocktopusActionParnsip: excellent.. I think I will go for desktop version then... at least get hte GUI out of it13:31
halalbananawhats a fnord?13:32
OpenSorceActionParsnip, thought so, thanks so much.13:32
drRocktopusso now I just have to solve my booting problem13:32
ActionParsniphalalbanana: never heard of a 'fnord'13:32
halalbananathe voice of silence?13:32
ActionParsnipdrRocktopus: i'd start with the ram test13:32
Picihalalbanana: Leave the nonsense at the door, if you want to chat, theres #ubuntu-offtopic13:32
halalbananaso where can i get those forks or fnords13:32
drRocktopusis that tool in the liveCD?13:32
ActionParsniphalalbanana: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=mate+ubuntu    your call13:33
ActionParsniphalalbanana: personally I recommend you install xfce4 and use that, it has the Gnome2 feel and is fully supported here13:33
ActionParsniphalalbanana: rather than some guys perpetuating a dead project13:33
halalbananai need some gnomestic features thats why i need gnome213:34
ActionParsnipdrRocktopus: hold shift at boot and select the memtest there13:34
drRocktopusActionParsnip: Thanks! :) any thoughts on 32 vs 64 bit?13:34
ActionParsniphalalbanana: then use that link, fill your boots but Gnome2 is dead13:34
ActionParsnipdrRocktopus: depends entirely on needs and the system you are using. There is no single answer13:35
halalbananamy boots? i walk barefoot13:35
drRocktopusI have heard compatibility issues with tomcat java server perhaps13:35
lessshasteI just installed dropbox from the .deb that dropbox provides ( I am using lubuntu-desktop).. how do I actually start it and get an icon showing it is working?13:36
ActionParsniphalalbanana: its a saying13:36
halalbananaah im not familiar with sayings, i m a toker13:36
ActionParsnipdrRocktopus: not sure there so cannot intelligently reply. I' imagine many servers use 64bit so you may find it's ok. There is a tomcat channel you can ask in13:37
ActionParsniphalalbanana: it's similar to "go nuts, buddy"13:37
drRocktopusActionParsnip: cool...thanks a bunch for your help13:37
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James_Carteranyone kno any good books to read to learn ALOT about computers?13:38
drRocktopushm13:39
halalbananaso i stuck with natty dread13:39
halalbananais it possible to compile wine 1.5 with natty dread? and make a deb package somehow?13:39
ActionParsniphalalbanana: i've had dreadlocks, but not heard of 'natty dread' being compiled with wine13:40
KScorphihi13:40
halalbananai forgo the release name13:40
ActionParsniphalalbanana: i don't follow13:41
halalbanananatty bread or something13:41
amigamia`dreadlocks?13:41
KScorphow can i copy a CD content by $dd command?13:41
amigamiadid you dread it?13:41
ActionParsniphalalbanana: Natty Narwal is EOL, no longer supprted13:41
gordonjcpKScorp: same as any other drive...13:41
amigamiaIs Hoary still supported?13:41
ActionParsnipamigamia: no, its dead too13:41
ActionParsnipamigamia: back in the day yes I had dreads13:42
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amigamiawow13:42
KScorpgordonjcp: i inseted cd into my cd drive, it now mounted on the /media/cdname13:42
halalbananai know its EOL, but the question was to compile something on my own and put them into a deb package instead installing it in the hardcore way13:42
KScorpthe source is a directory13:42
amigamiaI think I saw you walking around Vanity Square with flowers in your hair.13:42
gordonjcpKScorp: but you want to take an image, so see what the drive is called, probably /dev/cdrom13:42
gordonjcpKScorp: you're reading it, so it doesn't matter that it's mounted13:42
KScorpgordonjcp: oh.ok13:43
halalbananaso i meant a program that converts homebrew compiled code into a debian package13:43
ActionParsnipamigamia: https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/p206x206/4495_96621056613_2542279_n.jpg    that's about 4 years ago :)13:43
ActionParsniphalalbanana: look into checkinstall13:44
KScorpgordonjcp: it's ok. thank you very much13:44
halalbananathank you mr. ActionParsnip : you are very kosher13:44
amigamiawow you look like Robet Plant! :D13:44
gordonjcpKScorp: working?13:45
KScorpgordonjcp: yes. but there is a problem13:45
amigamiaYou ARE Robet Plant!13:46
KScorpcd has a key i think.because i get Input/Output error while copying13:46
gordonjcpKScorp: it may be damaged13:48
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KScorphttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1407771/           what's the problem?13:49
KScorpgordonjcp:  no. it works correctly when  run it's content on cd.13:50
Climbzcould someone please help me "force" mount a mac hdd that has a B-tree node size error. I'm trying to backup some data from this hdd13:51
jeromest /whois Climbz13:52
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Marvin_LeoFound this one adobe.com --> NOTE: Adobe Flash Player 11.2 will be the last version to target Linux as a supported platform. Adobe will continue to provide security backports to Flash Player 11.2 for Linux.  Is there an alternative?13:54
KScorpwhats the best alternative software for netsim? for network simulating13:57
llaskinso a fresh install of ubuntu 12.04.01 LTS 32 bit, boots to a blank screen(first boot after install).  Thoughts?13:57
clarzCan I put my own files in Ubuntu iso before building it in UCK without damage to boot?14:00
DJones!remaster | clarz This may help, but its not something I've done, so can't beyond pointing at the factoid,14:01
ubottuclarz This may help, but its not something I've done, so can't beyond pointing at the factoid,: Interested in remastering the Ubuntu !LiveCD or !Alternate installer? See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization - Or use tools such as http://uck.sourceforge.net/ or http://linux.dell.com/wiki/index.php/DRU_Disc_Remastering_Utility14:01
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llaskinso a fresh install of ubuntu 12.04.01 LTS 32 bit, boots to a blank screen(first boot after install).  Anyone have any thoughts?14:06
MonkeyDustllaskin  before or after the grub menu?14:09
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asdklasfghi! i know this is a bit OT but anyways, how can i discover the servers IP when i know its URL and the server is down?14:25
wdpasdklasfg, using dig.14:26
OpenSorceasdklasfg, ping it. The ping reply should reslove it through the DNS14:26
asdklasfgthx14:26
OpenSorceeven if the server itself doesn't respond14:26
James_Carteranyone kno any good books about computers?14:26
wdpJames_Carter, thats a wide topic, be more precise please.14:27
OpenSorceThe pink shirt book!14:27
OpenSorceSorry I'll hush now :-P14:27
James_Carterwdp , literally anything man, just throw out a favorite of yours on any topic related to computers etc..14:28
* wdp wonders if he should link to some asm book.14:28
James_Carterlol14:29
James_Carteri want to learn computers from ground up14:30
James_Carteranything and everything14:30
bazhang!ot | James_Carter14:30
ubottuJames_Carter: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!14:30
OpenSorceJames_Carter, "computers" could mean anything from the Altair to the Roku. Seriously, be a little more specific.14:30
ztguHey, I was thinking of buying a new laptop. I found a MSI GX60. http://www.msi.com/product/nb/GX60.html#/?div=Specification14:31
wdpJames_Carter, while this is ot, then look for some history related computer books and take a look at projects like the raspberry pi.14:31
bazhangztgu, ##hardware please14:31
ztgugood to run linux on it?14:31
OpenSorcebazhang, sorry for the OT :-)14:31
James_Carteright thnx..guess i gotta go somewhere else :/14:32
wdpbtw. anyone playing games in wine (ubuntu) using a SLI setup and experiencing that graphics are pretty slow until you disable sli?14:32
OpenSorcewdp, playing games in wine is slow anyway, have you tried steam?14:33
wdpOpenSorce, not the games i play. and no, most of my games run pretty fast in wine (not using ubuntu, though)14:33
wdpthought there might be a sli-related-bug or something.14:34
OpenSorcewdp, but yes my SLI setup doesn't work right under wine when running games either. Works great under steam though14:35
MonkeyDustwhat's SLI ?14:39
InstantKrimsonMonkeyDust: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scalable_Link_Interface14:40
MonkeyDustah nvidia14:41
kefiranyone got hints on how to connect Ubuntu to AD so any AD user can log on?14:41
MonkeyDustkefir  if AD means Active Directory    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ActiveDirectoryWinbindHowto14:43
bloouupWhere can I find alternative greeters for lightdm?14:43
Darkstar1Hello ppl just a QQ why is /lib/modules so big?14:43
Darkstar1I have a 207GB partition for / with /home on another and /lib/modules takes up 145GB14:44
kefirMonkeyDust: thanks, I'll have a go at that!14:44
Darkstar1I'm on 12.0414:44
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Darkstar1Need to know if I can purge to make space14:44
MonkeyDustDarkstar1  looks like it contains kernels... type ls -lh /lib/modules/14:46
Darkstar1MonkeyDust: ok14:47
voldyclient:)14:47
bhaveshThere is no more " Hide system title bar and use compact borders" in new Google Chrome version? I want to disable multiple title bars for chrome14:47
phunyguy_workChromium*14:48
Darkstar1MonkeyDust: 3.0.0-20-generic files14:48
bhaveshchromium?14:48
MonkeyDustbhavesh  chromium is safer than chrome, it's what chrome is based on14:48
Darkstar1Chromium is what chrome is based on14:49
phunyguy_workin Ubuntu, it is Chromium.14:49
Darkstar1Nope. Chromium is a different browser14:49
Darkstar1You can also get chrome for Ubuntu14:49
bhaveshYea, I know what chromium is, Google Chrome even showed a warning "Installing might SERIOUSLY damage your system" I just ignored it14:49
phunyguy_workis it in the repos?14:49
bhaveshthe point is14:49
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phunyguy_workI believe we are crossing that "unsupported" line.  Am I wrong?14:50
bhaveshIs there some option in chromium or google chrome to use single title bar instead of two when you select "Use system title bar"14:50
saviohey14:50
Darkstar1MonkeyDust: 144G/lib/modules/3.2.0-34-generic downloaded today. I have no idea what downloaded this14:51
saviobhavesh, i don't think so14:51
Darkstar1MonkeyDust: but I did fire off an update earlier14:51
WaltherAre the nvidia 310 drivers hitting nvidia-current any time soon?14:52
Waltherafaik they already released a stable version of 31014:52
Darkstar1Any one?14:53
areelswhat happened to anyone Darkstar1  ?14:53
Darkstar1areels: Well...14:54
j33hello!14:54
savio!anyone | Darkstar114:54
ubottuDarkstar1: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.14:54
Darkstar1savio: I already asked!!14:55
Darkstar1scroll up14:55
j33strange behaviour requires help... after an upgrade libnux3.0 wants to remove Unity!14:55
j33Why ?14:55
savioDarkstar1, repeat your question14:55
MonkeyDustDarkstar1  not a clue, sorry14:55
areelsI see that i just joined to #ubuntu when scroll, then you're saying anyo one?14:55
atxqlooking for a screen recrder that can record specific application window only. any suggestions?14:55
MonkeyDustatxq  try kazam14:55
SolarisBoyatxq: gtk-recordmydesktop14:56
j33@atxq => look recordmydesktop, it rocks!14:56
bhavesh!sh14:56
ubottuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome), K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE), or Menu -> Accessories -> LXTerminal (LXDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal14:56
Darkstar1I have a 207GB partition for / with /home on another and /lib/modules takes up 145GB anyone have any idea as to what could install something in that folder from the update package14:56
Darkstar1I did fire off an update earlier14:56
Darkstar1The system's a 12.04 that I use for light dev work14:56
MonkeyDustDarkstar1  207GB for / ???   it should be in the order of 10-15GB14:56
bhaveshDoes OpenJDK works with Netbeans?14:57
bhaveshor do I have to get Sun Java JDK?14:57
savioDarkstar1, try disk usages analysis14:57
Darkstar1MonkeyDust: It's a desktop/light dev machine with lots of site running in a sub-directory14:57
Darkstar1savio: you mean running du -sh? and all that Jazz?14:58
savioDarkstar1, you can get an overall idea what might me wrong14:59
Darkstar1savio:  Already did that, that's how I know that /lib/modules is eating up all the space15:00
saviobhavesh, there are some issues i suggest you to give it try15:00
Darkstar1or found out rather15:00
Darkstar1bhavesh: openJDK works with netbeans but you can laso install the sunjdk15:00
Darkstar1And switch between both15:01
bhaveshok15:01
saviobhavesh, http://trigonakis.com/blog/2011/04/29/netbeans-7-0-on-ubuntu-installation-%E2%80%93-openjdk-problem/15:01
hasselmmsomeone knows why ubuntu and debian use /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu while the less common distributions seem to have agreed on /usr/lib64 ?15:02
bhaveshWell I installed OpenJDK and the installer says "No compatible JDK was found"15:02
enokd#15:03
Darkstar1bhavesh: what netbeans version15:05
Darkstar1?15:05
saviohasselmm, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultiarchSpec refer this15:05
hasselmmsavio, 1000 thanks for the link!15:07
ztguHey, I need a good laptop for linux and gaming when using windows, any recommendations? I have been searching for a laptop without Nvidia and Intel GPU's in the same system.15:09
jazzkutyahi, what packages should i install on 12.04 to run 32bit apps?15:14
ztguwhat apps?15:15
WaltherAny news on when the nvidia 310 driver becomes nvidia-current?15:16
WaltherAFAIK there is already a stable version available15:16
vic_hi!15:17
vic_hola15:17
ztguhola15:18
vic_Consulta, tengo una mac g4 power pc, donde puedo conseguir una distrubucion de linux actualizada para esa maquina15:18
Pici!es | vic_15:19
ubottuvic_: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.15:19
vic_i have a mac g4 power pc, i want to instal linux in these machine, where i can download a linux ditributio for my mac15:20
MonkeyDust!mac15:20
ubottuFor help on installing and using Ubuntu on a mac, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages15:20
vic_gracias ubottu por la info :)15:21
vic_thanks!15:21
testvogelHi. Does anyone of you know how I can change glibc lookup directory? chroot doesnt work anymore after an update to 12.10. It always exits with "/bin/bash: /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.11' not found (required by /bin/bash)15:21
ybitescott: yeah, so i borked my machine after apt-get install libxdamage1 libxcomposite115:21
testvogelbecause /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6: is the wrong dir15:21
ybitborked isn't the correct terminology i suppose15:22
escottybit, that shouldnt have broken anything. those are standard packages15:22
ybitit just won't boot into anything but recovery mode which i'm using presently15:22
ybityeah15:22
Anon-Homerhi all15:22
ybittrying to boot in regularly fails though, there's no indication of anything going on15:23
ybiti chrooted and installed some nouveau drivers but that didn't seem to fix anything15:23
ybitsame issue where when booting, the screen is just black and it never changes15:23
ybitworking through that15:24
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* ybit tinkers15:27
ybitescott: i do appreciate you taking the time to throw some ideas my way15:27
testvogelany ideas on my issue?15:28
escottybit, im afraid im not sure what it would be though.15:28
DANYALM Getting Error15:28
DANYALI've narrowed it down to pango not installing correctly. But because my hardy is EOL, the repositories are dead. I need a way to fix pango from the CLI without having to deal with all the little boxes that have replaced the text characters15:28
DANYALthe error is everywhere in the gui there are little boxes instead of text15:29
escotttestvogel, dont understand the question. why would you need to change glibc lookup for a chroot15:29
jribDANYAL: "pango not installing correctly" Why do you say that?  How did you install it?15:29
testvogelbecause I always get the error /bin/bash: /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.11' not found (required by /bin/bash)15:29
testvogelbut the folder /lib/tls/i686/cmov/ doesnt exists anymore15:29
heathjsescott: yeah, i'm afraid i'm not sure what it is, just going to get it to a state with no opengl on the desktop and be satisfied that i do at least have webgl15:30
escotttestvogel, and do you have that file in your chroot15:30
testvogelescott, the libc.so.6 file? or which file?15:31
escotttestvogel, /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.615:31
testvogelescott, no this file doesn't exist anymore after my ubuntu update. I guess the new directory has to be /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.615:32
testvogelbut I dont know how to change this15:32
DANYALjrib: well, I started with dapper. Was the only distro i tried that would get the wifi working out of the box. That took a nice little eight hours. Then I went to upgrade to hardy via CD.. because repositories are dead or annoying.15:33
escotttestvogel, clearly the chroot you are proposing to use is broken. not sure if you understand chroot or not15:33
DANYALand nothing unofficial15:33
escotttestvogel, the /bin/bash inside your chroot needs that file inside the chroot. its not there. the chroot is broken15:33
jribDANYAL: right, but those distributions aren't supported; is there a reason you don't just do a fresh install of 12.04 (if you want LTS) or 12.10? Backup and fresh install will be quicker than upgrading15:33
DANYALjrib: i did try other distros.. liked dPup, but wouldn't get the pcmcia prism wifi working -at-all-15:34
DANYALjrib: it locks up.15:34
jribDANYAL: what does?15:34
DANYALJrib: This is a pentium 2, 4 gig hd, 80 meg ram crappylappy15:35
DANYALthe install. Every time15:35
jribDANYAL: heh, what environment do you run on that?  Try installing from the minimal iso15:35
DANYALjrib:  alternative, text install, minimal.. hangs up every time15:37
jribDANYAL: weird. You tried both 12.04 and 12.10?15:37
escottDANYAL, there is something like old-releases.ubuntu.com you can also see if you have the pango deb in /var/cache/dpkg15:37
DANYALjrib: even i tried lubuntu, no joy15:38
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pratzHello guys15:39
pratzI am using 12.0415:39
pratzplease check this http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/using-bash-history-more-efficiently-histcontrol15:39
jribpratz: what's your question?15:39
pratzit says that when you use up arrow we can see the history15:40
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jribDANYAL: so the minimal on both 12.04 and 12.10 both hung?  Where do they hang?15:40
pratzjrib: how can i override the key binding with something else ?15:40
DANYALjrib: i tried the old-releases, old-versions, archives, none of those work.. Got nothing but errors, even though I can browse no problems.15:40
jribpratz: try #bash15:40
pratzjrib: hmmm15:40
DeLorean731I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 and firefox and I'm trying to run a java game that seems to be failing to load the plugin. I have installed openjdk-7-jre and icedtea-7-plugin. Any suggestions/15:42
hanshanspoo15:43
DANYALjrib: can't find the cd... but most times it's on setting up services. instead of defering, which worked for dpup like magic, it just sits there and turned the laptop into a brick.15:43
DANYALeven presice puppy retro 5.4.1 hung up on me15:44
sensahhi15:44
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auronandaceDANYAL: we don't support puppy here15:46
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DANYALauronandace Hmm Ok15:46
DANYALi have to say that during the install of hardy, I got a load of locale errors.15:47
DANYALit never prompted me, so I didn't pay much mind. ;(15:47
DANYALuntil the boxes.15:47
Pummpy1Is anymody here?15:49
Pummpy1I need a bit of help :S15:49
rolling4018574677735546 0414 951 Alan Lewis 13 Walnut St Norwich NY UNITED STATES 13815-191915:50
usr13Yes, there are many.  State your issue.15:50
rolling4018574677735546 0414 951 Alan Lewis 13 Walnut St Norwich NY UNITED STATES 13815-191915:50
rolling4018574677735546 0414 951 Alan Lewis 13 Walnut St Norwich NY UNITED STATES 13815-191915:50
Pummpy1Does anyone know how to install files on this15:50
rollingyes15:50
rollinglol15:50
Pummpy1Because I can't15:51
usr13Pummpy1: What files are you missing?  (And how did they come to be missing?)15:51
Pummpy1usr13 How do you actually install files15:52
Pummpy1what program do you open it with for it to install?15:52
escott!apt | Pummpy115:52
ubottuPummpy1: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome), !Muon (KDE) or !Apper (KDE)15:52
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usr13Pummpy1: Well, several ways.  One would be a text editor.15:52
usr13Pummpy1: Oh, are you talking about installing Applications?15:53
Pummpy1yes :)15:53
Pummpy1Should have made that more clear :S15:53
usr13Pummpy1: apt (See abouve..)15:53
Pummpy1:)15:53
usr13Pummpy1: What exactly are you wanting to install?15:53
dsenatorjrib, are yu there15:53
jribdsenator: yes15:53
Pummpy1usr13 cinelerra15:54
dsenatorwoah15:54
dsenatorimpossible15:54
usr13Pummpy1: It's in the repositories.  No problem15:54
amigamiawhat a name monkeydust :D15:54
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dsenatorjrib, may I have the silverlight sites you gave me once again15:54
Pummpy1usr13 what's that?15:54
rolling4018574677735546 0414 951 Alan Lewis 13 Walnut St Norwich NY UNITED STATES 13815-191915:54
jribdsenator: the ones to test?15:54
dsenatoryes15:55
dsenatoryou gave me 2, one was for some painting thingy15:55
usr13Pummpy1: I'm wrong, you'll have to use a ppa.15:56
usr13!ppa | Pummpy115:56
ubottuPummpy1: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge15:56
chris92hey there - updated to 12.10 on my desktop pc with a dual screen setup - since then my mouse cursor is stuck on one of those two screens (it cant go to the other screen at all) - I'm using separate x sessions for the screens15:56
chris92any ideas how to fix this?15:57
usr13Pummpy1: https://launchpad.net/~cinelerra-ppa/+archive/ppa15:57
dsenatorjrib, the 2 test ones you gave or any other, as long as it done with silverlight... wanna test again15:58
jribdsenator: I got them from here: http://www.go-mono.com/moonlight/community.aspx (samples section)15:58
Pummpy1usr13 How does it work :S15:59
dsenatorthanks jrib, it does appear that moonlight development is stalled tho16:00
usr13Pummpy1: When you add a ppa to the package manager, the app(s) in that ppa become accessable to install through the use of the package manager, apt.16:00
jribdsenator: yes, I think so16:00
pingpongpinghow many browsers are available for ubuntu16:00
jribpingpongping: a lot...16:00
Pummpy1usr13 im a ubuntu noob. I don't have a clue :S16:01
pingpongpinga lot means ?16:01
oliver__Hi! i just installed ubuntu 12.10 on my dell xps 14z and I always has a very high load avarerage, when idle for example: 0.76 0.83 0.44. what can it be? it slows down my computer a lot, no high cpu usage or anything else what i can find16:01
MonkeyDustpingpongping  in the order of 20 or so16:02
nonkn4meroliver__: is it installed on a legacy machine?16:02
pingpongping20 ? r u crazy16:02
usr13Pummpy1: http://askubuntu.com/questions/4983/what-are-ppas-and-how-do-i-use-them16:02
oliver__nonkn4mer: no, i5 with 4 core, intel hd 400016:03
Habermashey guys, could anyone recommend a nice network file sharing app for ubuntu?16:03
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punditwhere to configure whether gdm is started at boot-up?16:03
usr13Habermas: nfs16:04
usr13Habermas: or  samba16:04
jribpundit: do you mean you want to select which dm is used or whether a dm is started at all?16:04
MonkeyDustpingpongping  firefox, chromium, midori, abrowser, epiphany, lynx, elinks are the most common, but there are more16:04
pundithave gone through the xinit files, xsession etc. but not found it16:04
nonkn4meroliver__: load average is comprised of several factors, a slow hard drive or read errors  could jack your results, too.16:04
icerootpundit: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm16:04
usr13!nfs | Habermas16:04
ubottuHabermas: nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.16:04
usr13!samba | Habermas16:05
ubottuHabermas: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.16:05
chris92any idea for my dual monitor setup fix where the mouse is stuck on one screen? :)16:05
pingpongpingwhree is ie ?16:05
Habermaswell Samba and NFS seem pretty complicated, I was wondering whether there is a simple application that I could install on all my machines which would do the job for me :P16:05
punditjrib: both. actually i want to turn off gdm. but i also want to be able to choose another one. is there no config file, no other way than dpkg-reconfigure?16:05
oliver__nonkn4mer: I know, I have checked my drive with iotop, nothing weird there, this drives me crazy16:05
MonkeyDustpingpongping  ie is for windows, but i gues there's also ie4linux or so16:05
chris92there is no Internet Explorer for Ubuntu, pundit16:05
chris92woops, wrong nick16:05
usr13Habermas: You can use scp  (after installing openssh-server)16:06
punditiceroot: is there no config file, no other way than dpkg-reconfigure?16:06
usr13Habermas: nfs is not as complicated as you think.16:06
icerootpundit: sure there is but i dont know where16:06
escottchris92, please paste the output of "xrandr"16:06
icerootpundit: dpkg is just reconfiguring conffiles16:06
usr13Habermas: Samba is not all that tough either.16:06
phunyguy_workSo, I am trying to use evolution on 12.10 with the exchange plugin installed, so I can access my mail account at work.   I enter all the account details, authenticate perfectly, then accept the settings and close, - the account doesnt get added to evolution, and upon restarting the app, it does the new acccount wizard again.  What could be wrong?16:06
jribpundit: that dpkg-reconfigure, will edit /etc/X11/default-display-manager .  See ubottu about booting with no X:16:07
nonkn4meroliver__: have you ran netstat to see if you have something hammering a nic?16:07
jrib!text | pundit16:07
ubottupundit: To start your system in text-only mode append 'text' (without the quotes) to the kernel line in the grub menu. You can access the grub menu by pressing Esc (Grub legacy) or Shift (Grub2) during boot. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode16:07
MonkeyDustpingpongping  there are plenty sites, here's one http://linux.dltube.net/download197.html16:07
pingpongpinghow to scan wireless network in ubuntu16:07
oliver__nonkn4mer: no, how do I do that and what should I look for?16:08
chris92escott -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1408082/16:08
usr13pingpongping: iwlist wlan0 scan16:08
usr13 .... sudo   ^^^^16:08
escottchris92, dual monitor would require two monitors16:08
chris92im using two monitors... I'm even sitting in front of both <.<16:08
escottchris92, then you are running two servers or something, because you arent using xinerama. it only shows one display. maybe this is some nvidia junk16:09
punditjrib: thanks!16:09
punditiceroot: thanks also to you!16:09
chris92escott, two x sessions, yes. xinerama makes it look weird because both monitors use different resolutions16:10
pingpongpingwhy there isn't any gui app for scanning ?16:10
dr_willis!info xsane16:10
ubottuxsane (source: xsane): featureful graphical frontend for SANE (Scanner Access Now Easy). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.998-3ubuntu3 (quantal), package size 265 kB, installed size 808 kB16:10
pingpongpinguser13 , it doesn't work16:10
chris92pingpongping, network-manager usually does that16:10
escottchris92, if you have two x servers you need two keyboards and two monitors16:10
escottchris92, rather two mice16:10
usr13escott: Yes, he stated earlier that he is running 2 Xsessions.16:10
chris92escott, bullshit. it worked on 12.04 just as well16:10
Bomboi'm using Ubuntu 12.10, and i want to disable the network manager. so i edited /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf set [ifupdown] managed=true, saved it, edited /etc/network/interfaces added eth0, rebooted, but /etc/network/interfaces doesnt contain my changes anymore, network manager did it again16:11
usr13Bombo: uninstall it.16:11
Bombowhat else do i need to do to disable it?=16:11
Bombousr13: hm16:11
pingpongpingchris where is this network manager ?16:12
usr13Bombo: sudo apt-get remove network-manager16:12
tsniveda#gedit16:12
Bombousr13: no way to just disable it?16:12
punditjrib: yes, the file is there. thanks again! :)16:12
chris92normally in your taskbar, there should be an icon with two arrows, one facing up, one facing down16:12
usr13Bombo: Well, why would you not uninstall it if you are not going to use it?16:12
houdsudo apt-add-repository ppa:gwendal-lebihan-dev/cinnamon-nightly16:13
houdsudo apt-get update16:13
chris92pingpongping, there you should be able to see all available wireless networks16:13
houdsudo apt-get install cinnamon16:13
Bombousr13: maybe i'm going to use it later ;)16:13
nonkn4meroliver__: you can run netstat -i and it'll tell you the load on your nics.  looking into it further, that might not be the best option.  looking for better solution16:13
usr13Bombo: Install it later.16:13
Bombousr13: right16:13
Bombousr13: was that a 'there is no way to just disable it (for a while)'?16:14
dr_willisBombo:  shouldent it be managed=false  since its not managed by the network manager?16:14
chris92escott, the thing is, if I'm using twinview, games tend to use the full combined resolution, instead of only the primary screen16:14
houdcan i have a cinnamon desktop on xubunut16:15
houd"xubuntu16:15
usr13Bombo: I'm just giving you the easiest and simpliest way. (It'16:15
usr13s what I'd do)16:15
chris92escott, two x sessions worked fine before 12.10 - so there must have been a change in either xorg or nvidia drivers16:15
dr_willishttp://askubuntu.com/questions/2901/unmanaged-network-icon-network-manangement-disabled16:15
Bombodr_willis: not sure, it was false before16:15
dr_willisseems to mention some other config files16:15
houdcan i have a cinnamon desktop on xubuntu/ubuntu/lubuntu16:16
escottchris92, i dont understand how you can ever expect two sessions to work like that. you want to move the mouse off screen1 and only screen2... well where is screen2 in relation to screen1, above below, left right... none of the above because it is completely independent16:16
houdplease16:17
dr_willishoud:  most likely yes. but its not supported here. and if it break things you are on your own.16:17
houdhow can i have cinnamon on xubuntu16:17
houdok thanks16:17
usr13houd: Install it.16:17
chris92escott, I expect it to work because it just did... I want to move it off screen 1 so it gets to screen2, which is left of screen 116:17
houdok what must i do after16:17
usr13chris92: It may be that you don't remember correctly the way you did it before.16:18
houdinstalling cinnamon16:18
chris92usr13, I didnt change anything in the nvidia-settings16:18
houdsudo apt-get update?16:18
chris92usr13, I just did a dist-upgrade16:18
usr13houd: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade16:18
dr_willishoud:  cinnamon is not part of the default ubuntu repos. so you will need to reserach it to find out how to install it.16:18
MonkeyDusthoud  http://news.softpedia.com/news/Introducing-Ubuntu-Cinnamon-Remix-311264.shtml <-- 12.04 LTS16:18
Pummpy1usr13 are you still here?16:19
usr13Pummpy1: Yes16:19
usr13but not for long....16:19
escottchris92, nvidia has their own crummy broken implementation of multi-monitor support so its entirely possible that xrandr doesn't report anything sensible for their multi-head config. i neither know nor care what nvidia does16:19
escottchris92, based on your xrandr output i would say you cannot possible make things work.16:20
Pummpy1usr13 I will only be quick. How do I get to this here? (http://askubuntu.com/questions/4983/what-are-ppas-and-how-do-i-use-them/40351#40351) it says now install from the software center16:20
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dr_willisPummpy1:  after you enable a 'ppa' it shows packages in the software center and other package manager tools same as the default repositories do.16:20
houdits not the cinnamon desktop i want but i found a other cinnamon desktop (sudo apt-add-repository ppa:gwendal-lebihan-dev/cinnamon-nightly)16:21
Bombook removed it, edited interfaces manually, reboot, waiting for dhcp now16:21
usr13Pummpy1: Are you using unity?16:21
chris92is there a quick way to restart the xserver? i remember there was a hotkey for that some years ago16:21
Pummpy1Probably not ..16:21
* Bombo watches the log16:21
* Pummpy1 test16:21
dr_willis You normally add/enable the PPA. do a 'update' of the package listing, then you can install what you want from the ppa.16:21
bkfitzLooking at a new wireless router that will support cloud storage for backup and remote access to my files... anyone have any experience with regards to Ubuntu integration16:21
escottchris92, nozap is disabled.16:22
Pummpy1Is there a video tutorial anywhere?16:22
escottchris92, rather nozap is set so zap is disabled16:22
dr_willisbkfitz:  some of the new Cisco routers are supposed to have a cloud feature. but im not sure it works very well.16:22
chris92escott, brb16:22
dr_willisbkfitz:  you may want to look into running that 'owncloud' service.  I just use ssh for now to get into my pcs from my phone.16:23
houdwhats the different of sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade16:23
bkfitzdr_willis: yeah... seems like cisco has something called "connect cloud" and dlink has something called "mydlink"16:23
dr_willishoud:  you UPDATE the list. then Upgrade the system16:23
bkfitzdr_willis: but I want android access etc16:23
houdoh thanks16:23
dr_willisbkfitz:  I can plug a USB hd into my router and its on the lan. but its flakey.16:23
dr_willisbkfitz:  as far as i know that COnnect Cloud is not active yet. I havent looked into it in a while16:24
bkfitzdr_willis: yeah... thats what i'm looking for... and always want to check on linux support before i go buying...16:24
dr_willisbkfitz:  im not sure how much i trust it either. ;)16:24
alexGlahello. I have derby db on my Ubuntu machine. And i m following tutorial from http://db.apache.org/derby/papers/DerbyTut/ I m looking for .ksh to start the server but then unzipped archive have not found any.16:24
bkfitzdr_willis: yeah... but what do you trust?  #sslstrip ;)16:25
houdwich programm is the best? windows8/ununtu/xubuntu/lubuntu/kubuntu?16:25
dr_willisbkfitz:  id trust a linux box on the lan. Not a usb on the router :) Plus it would be faster.16:25
chris92escott, okay, changed to twinview now - does this one look better? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1408128/16:25
dr_willisbkfitz: I just ssh/sft into my linux box these days if i need. Or use UbuntuOne16:26
usr13Pummpy1: Try Method 2: Using the command line?  At:  http://www.sitepoint.com/ubuntu-12-04-lts-precise-pangolin-discovering-a-world-of-ppas/16:26
bkfitzdr_willis: but not accessible on the road, from android etc...16:26
dr_willisbkfitz:  so my stuff is accessable on the road.. without needing a cloud router.16:26
houdhow do i root my android phone16:26
dr_willishoud:  ask in #android16:26
chris92houd - refer to xda-developers for that one16:26
usr13!android | houd16:26
usr13... thought sure there would be an !android factoid by now...16:27
escottchris92, that actually shows two monitors16:27
chris92escott - yea because it only uses one x session now16:27
houdok and wich programm shall i take ?ubuntu/xubuntu/kubuntu/lubuntu16:27
chris92escott, but now I have the problem that games would use up the combined resolution, not the one of the main screen16:27
chris92houd - basically its the same, it only depends on which desktop environment you prefer. ubuntu uses Unity, kubuntu uses KDE, xubuntu uses XFCE16:28
usr13houd: http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android  #Cool video  :)16:28
dr_willishoud:  what are you trying to do exactly? Your questions are jumping around all over the place.16:29
houdi just want ti find the perfect programm16:29
houd"to16:29
usr13houd: I recommend xubuntu, (but that's just because it's what I like/use, but I think it's pretty nice.  I like a Desktop Environment that is simple, easy to use, etc...)16:29
dr_willishoud:  for what?16:30
houdto learn more about linux16:30
usr13houd: Use it.16:30
dr_willishoud:  id start with the Ubuntu Manual. and use Ubuntus default interface16:30
nonkn4merthen just install the default build.16:30
dr_willis!manual | houd16:30
ubottuhoud: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/16:30
nonkn4mer^^ houd16:30
kvothetechhoud: use minimal and build up what you want from there.16:30
dr_williskvothetech:  he diddent know what the differance was btween apt-get update and upgrade.. I think 'minimal' is beyone his comprension. ;)16:31
kvothetechdr_willis: just got here read 'want to learn, and trying to pick which install to use16:32
usr13houd: https://help.ubuntu.com/16:32
escottchris92, if you have two completely different x sessions, then alice could be on monitor 1 and bob on monitor 2. it would be completely screwed up if alice could move her cursor onto bobs display. so you have to have something like xinerama or twinview16:32
kvothetechdr_willis: i'll shutup now though.16:32
RickZillaRunning 12.10, when I go to gmail, it asks me if I want to load the app...is this a recommended action? I'm assuming it just houses the gmail infrastructure on my local machine, instead of going out to get it each time?16:32
dr_willisescott:  trying to do a MultiSeat X session?16:32
zykotick9escott: dr_willis multiseat is non-trivial16:32
dr_willisRickZilla:  thats the webapps feature - that puts a gmail icon in the panel.16:33
houdwhats the terminal in reality(a booting machin?)16:33
nonkn4merdr_willis: at least he picked ubuntu and not some obscure build :P16:33
usr13RickZilla: Really?  firefox gmail.google.com   ?16:33
houdRickZilla:yes16:33
escottdr_jesus, thats what chris92 was claiming he was doing16:33
chris92dr_willis, I have a dual monitor setup and my nvidia-settings let me setup separate x sessions for each monitor and I could still use my mouse on both screens when moving them from one to another16:33
dr_williszykotick9:  actually id heard it was  being worked on  to make it easier. Ive never tried it.16:33
RickZillausr13 Really16:33
chris92dr_willis, that was until I updated to 12.1016:33
RickZillahoud: k, I'm assuming that's the only change it makes?16:34
zykotick9dr_willis: i haven't tried in years, so perhaps it's changed - but at the time, i never got it working ;)16:34
dr_willischris92:  sounds like you were not using Seperate X sessions then. But had Xinerma/twinview enabled.. Been usign 2 monitors for ages..16:34
chris92chris92, definitely was two separate x sessions. hmm16:34
chris92dr_willis ^^16:34
usr13RickZilla: To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add16:34
dr_williszykotick9:  thers some company making a little  $50 MultiSeat gizmo that is supposed to make it rather plug and play. :) not even needing   a fancy video card.16:35
houdwhat is better 12.04 or 12.1016:35
RickZillausr13: Not on an ubuntu machine right now16:35
zykotick9houb what is better yellor or orange?16:35
usr13houd: 12.04 is LTS16:35
dr_willischris92:  I would think its misconfigured and  its Not using 2 X sessions then. Ive NEVER seen 2 x sessions work that way. but i tend to just use  one wide desktop16:35
chris92dr_willis, any idea how to let games only use one screen's resolution then?16:36
houdi know but wich one is better K/X/L/UBUNTU 12.04 OR 12.1016:36
snoopi install de 12.10 on in virtualbox and the unity its slow as hell..16:36
chris92houd, like I said before, its personal preference16:36
dr_willischris92:  nope. I dont mess with games much. Ive always been able to window them, drag them to the 2nd monitor. fullscreen them and they use the 2nd monitor's res.16:36
snoophad to instal xfce and run and run as xubuntu16:37
usr13houd: YOu are asking a question that requires an opinion.  Ok, my opinion is xubuntu (but if you ask 4 people, you will likely get 4 answers)16:37
dr_willishoud:  most of the docs are going to be written for UBUNTU and Unity.... if you know nothing about Ubuntu. then stick to the defaults.16:37
nonkn4merhoud: what you might want to do is to set up a few virtual machines.  I have ubuntu, RHEL, Suse, and CentOS all on different virtual machines so I can bounce back and forth, seeing what works in which environment16:37
nonkn4merhell, even mac os x uses a lot of similar CLI commands16:37
dr_willishoud:  its rather trivial to isntall all those desktops on the same machine and try them out.16:38
chris92dr_willis, hmm maybe I'm just used to Windows' behavior too much then. there it just picks the primary monitor16:38
phunyguy_workI am trying to get evolution to talk to MS Exchange, is there an activesync plugin for it that anyone is aware of?16:38
nonkn4merdr_willis: trivial, yes.  But worked for me16:38
phunyguy_work(it has to work outside the network)16:38
dr_willischris92:  ive seen badly written apps that use the wrong monitor. or worse yet.. use both monitors.16:38
usr13houd: I would suggest you just install one.  YOu can install more than one desktop environment if you want, all of them if you want, you can change desktop environemnt each time you log into the system.16:39
chris92dr_willis, yea, me too... looks funny on my end then because one screen uses 1680x1050 and the second 1920x1080 :D16:39
houdyes but cinnamon or gnome?16:39
mako_reactorinstall gentoo16:39
houdgnome clasic?16:39
zykotick9dr_willis: best solution i've seen for multimonitor and gaming is to use a NULL string in xorg.conf, so when a specific resolutionis called - it autodisabled the "other" monitor.16:39
chris92houd, just use Unity, which comes with Ubuntu16:39
dr_willishoud:  cinnamon is NOT supported by this channel.  and Unity runs on top of gnome.16:39
RickZillaI'm using 12:10 with cinnamon, in case anybody is keeping score16:39
mako_reactorlol@Unity16:40
RickZillaI liked Unity for about 5 minutes16:40
usr13houd: Let's say you install Ubuntu.  "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"  will install the xfce4 Desktop Environment. etc..16:40
houdok now im using cinnamon. its realy good but how can i delet xfce?(does it funktion16:41
nonkn4merhoud: that's really the beauty of linux.  there's no "best" option.  It's infinately customizable16:41
snoopif the box in wich u install ubuntu 12.10 does not suppurt 3d its gonna be very slow16:41
mako_reactorsudo apt-get purge uninty-shit16:41
nonkn4merlol @ mako_reactor16:41
usr13houd: sudo apt-get remove xubuntu-desktop  (But you dont really have to un-install it.)16:41
snooplike usr13 says xubuntu desktop its much beter16:41
snoopbetter16:41
phunyguy_work!ot16:41
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!16:41
jribmako_reactor: let's try to stay on-topic please16:41
usr13snoop: ... that's just MY opinion ...  ;)16:42
phunyguy_work!language16:42
ubottuPlease watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.16:42
snoopwell mine too =D16:42
mako_reactorinstall gentoo16:42
dr_willis!info gentoo16:42
ubottugentoo (source: gentoo): fully GUI-configurable, two-pane X file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.19.13-2 (quantal), package size 755 kB, installed size 1906 kB16:42
usr13phunyguy_work: What is your native language?16:42
phunyguy_workEnglish?16:43
houdi tried (ultimate/stella/hybride/mint/debian/lubuntu/xubuntu/kubuntu/) wich will be the best linux program????????16:43
usr13phunyguy_work: Ok.  You are in the right place.16:43
snoopi had to install xfce desktop because it running on a airbook16:43
jribmako_reactor: this channel is for ubuntu support.  You can talk about other things (like gentoo) in #ubuntu-offtopic.  I'll have to kick you if you continue here16:43
phunyguy_workIt was directed at mako_reactor just forgot to include him16:43
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chris92houd, they are all good on their own. It depends on what you like most...16:43
dr_willishoud:  sounds like you need to spend more time actually using linux, and less time playing with all the differnt disrtos..16:43
mako_reactorSorry I'm japan16:43
mako_reactor私のペニスとたわごとを吸うするようにしてください。リナックス16:43
phunyguy_workor a troll.16:44
dr_willishoud:  its been said several times now - for a total 'beginner' its most likely best to stick with the normal default UBUNTU16:44
mako_reactorI'm JAPAN16:44
Bombousr13: ok eth0 works now, without nm ;) and the suspend/sleep mode does too, network-manager did always disable the network device when i hit the sleep key, so wake on lan didn't work16:44
phunyguy_workdoes evolution have a plugin for the unity envelope notification applet?16:45
urgodfatheris anyone familiar with ubuntu on the poulsbo chip?16:45
usr13Bombo: good.16:45
apm1does ubuntu server come with the same kernel configuration as ubuntu desktop version16:45
urgodfatherif so, i have a clean install for a customer that i need help fixing the sluggish behavior16:45
llaskinto add to my path variables, all I need to do is edit my .bashrc correct?16:45
dr_willisllaskin:  thats one way to do it yes.16:46
zykotick9llaskin: run "source .bashrc" after making changes to apply them16:46
usr13Bombo: If you just use a wired connection, you probably don't have much use for network-manager16:46
houddr_willis why do you use and like xubuntu?16:46
dr_willisllaskin:  i think .profile has some PATH info in it these days16:46
dr_willishoud:  I dont use xubuntu.16:47
houdwich one?16:47
usr13houd: Just try it.16:47
apm1and if i add packages to a live install on a usb flash drive will the packages added by me also install on my hd if i decide to install it ?16:47
dr_willishoud:  I use the normal Unity Desktop.16:47
jribllaskin: yes, you should follow the examples in the default ~/.profile16:47
zykotick9apm1: no16:47
dr_willisin  .profile:    PATH="$HOME/bin:$PATH"16:47
bhagwathi  friends .I want help for below problem.I had installed kannel gateway but when i am giving http request "http://localhost:13013/cgi-bin/sendsms?username=kannelUser&password=123&from=+551143214321&to=+551112341234&text=testing" it gives proble in terminal that is "2012-12-03 11:31:45 [8334] [12] ERROR: Error while gw_gethostbyname occurs.2012-12-03 11:31:45 [8334] [12] ERROR: System error 1: Operation not permitted2012-12-03 11:31:45 [8334] [12] ERROR:16:48
bhagwat gethostbyname failed 2012-12-03 11:31:45 [8334] [12] ERROR: System error 110: Connection timed out 2012-12-03 11:31:45 [8334] [12] ERROR: error connecting to server `localhost:20022' at port `20022'  2012-12-03 11:31:45 [8334] [12] ERROR: Couldn't send request to <http://localhost:20022?username=nork&password=z0rK&to=918149221884&text=test&from=+918149221884&coding=0&charset=UTF-8&smsc=MYMODEM&dlr-url=> 2012-12-03 11:31:45 [8334] [7] ERROR: HTTP[(null)]:16:48
bhagwat Couldn't connect to SMS center (retrying in 10 seconds).16:48
FloodBot1bhagwat: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.16:48
apm1zykotick9,  no for which question ?16:48
apm1i asked 216:48
jribif there ever was a time to use a pastebin...16:48
phunyguy_workoooh, nice.  a username and password.16:48
zykotick9apm1: no to adding packages to liveusb will install when you use "install" option16:48
dr_willishe just pasteed his username and password also? ;)16:48
jribheh16:49
apm1zykotick9, ok thnks for the answer :)16:49
zykotick9apm1: historically the desktop and server kernels where different - not sure about current16:49
apm1ok16:49
jribzykotick9: currently, there is no separate kernel for server16:50
zykotick9apm1: see jrib above ;)16:50
zykotick9jrib: thanks.16:50
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FloodBot1!netsplit16:50
apm1jrib, that means all the non free modules in desktop kernel are also in server kernel ?16:50
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit16:50
apm1enjoy the show no kidding , lol :p16:51
zykotick9apm1: if you are looking for a libre-server, see debian16:51
DeLorean731I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 and firefox and I'm trying to run a java game that seems to be failing to load the plugin (it just sits at a blank screen where the game would normally load). I have installed openjdk-7-jre and icedtea-7-plugin. Any suggestions?16:52
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houdif i knew how to create a linux programm i wont use all this programms (kubuntu ubuntu ...16:52
apm1zykotick9,  -, i am on debian :p  i am looking for a binary blob containing kernel shipped as default distro ubuntu server looks the best16:52
houdapml:is debian good16:53
zykotick9apm1: mixing distro packages = not brilliant16:53
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tommyangeloHello. Anyone know where the .h file for minizip is hiding? installing zlib1g-dev didn't help. I just get  'fatal error: minizip/unzip.h: No such file or directory'16:54
bhagwathow to send sms free of cost on ubuntu?16:54
tommyangelowhen compiling16:54
apm1zykotick9, mixing , no i am looking to do a transition , a clean install ?16:54
Riddelltommyangelo: packages.ubuntu.com is your friend16:54
mako_reactor笑Ubuntuはあなたのたわごとは、あなたの顔の内側に入れて持っているようなものです。16:54
zykotick9apm1: ahhh, ok, sorry.16:54
houdwhats python16:54
jrib!jp | mako_reactor16:54
ubottumako_reactor: 日本語の場合は /join #ubuntu-jp または /join #kubuntu-jp を入力して下さい。16:54
MonkeyDustmako_reactor  those are all prophanities, stop that please16:55
houdwhere can i get fluendo dvd player?16:55
houdixsoft?16:55
trismtommyangelo: only minizip/unzip.h I see is in libvxl1-dev but that is probably not what you want, looks like it was just thrown in there because some part of the app needs it16:56
tommyangeloRiddell: thanks, but no good. The only package to mention minizip is already installed16:57
tommyangelotrism: I'll try anyway16:57
houdwhere can i get gtstreamer16:58
houdhow can i add sound on xubuntu16:58
MonkeyDust!info gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3| houd16:58
ubottu'houd' is not a valid distribution: extras, hardy, hardy-backports, hardy-proposed, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, lucid, lucid-backports, lucid-proposed, medibuntu, oneiric, oneiric-backports, oneiric-proposed, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, quantal, quantal-backports, quantal-proposed, raring, raring-backports, raring-proposed, stable, testing, unstable16:58
MonkeyDust!info gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3 | houd16:59
ubottuhoud: gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3 (source: gst-fluendo-mp3): Fluendo mp3 decoder GStreamer plugin. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10.15.debian-1ubuntu1 (quantal), package size 88 kB, installed size 246 kB16:59
houdhow can i whatch blurays?gtstreamer0.10??????????????????????????????ßß16:59
MonkeyDusthoud  by not typing ????17:00
houdlxbdplayer does ont work what shall i doß17:00
houd"do17:00
MonkeyDusthoud  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/BluRayAndHDDVD17:00
bhagwathi friends .. anyone know about kannel installation and procedure to use it?17:01
houdük17:01
houd"ok17:01
FjdsurewjdfshdkjCan anyone see my msg?17:02
PriceyFjdsurewjdfshdkj: nope17:02
ikoniaFjdsurewjdfshdkj: many people can17:02
houdyes we can17:02
FjdsurewjdfshdkjOk thanks!17:02
FjdsurewjdfshdkjI thought my irc was screwed again17:02
houdno we cant:P17:02
jazzkutyano he can't (he left) :)17:03
TalnI'm on ubutu 12.04. When I started up my computer I noticed i couldn't see the top and side bars however i have Terminal access. Can someone tell me how to fix this? It is also kinda slow17:03
TalnI can still click on things in the bar, but again everything is slow and I can't see the top and side bar icons17:03
TalnAnyone have ideas on how to fix?17:04
tommyangelotrism: didn't work. Google has got nothing either. Weird. Ah well I'll install from source17:04
houdTaln: i think you must reboot your computer and if its not fixed you must ask someone other17:05
houdTaln:as MonkeyDust17:05
Talnhoud: i'v rebooted twice. I  went into the guest account and it was fine17:05
TalnMonkeyDust: halp17:06
houdTaln:good :d17:06
houd":D17:06
trismtommyangelo: I notice it is still in the zlib source in the contrib/ directory, maybe it was installed with the package previously?17:06
houdTaln the guest acount is only for guest.it will delet what you will save on the geust account!!!!!!17:07
SpaceRocketon Ubuntu 12.10 the USB 3G modem is not able to connect at all,  getting this in syslog "device state change: failed -> disconnected (reason 'none')"17:08
tommyangelotrism: what do you mean installed with the package17:08
tommyangelo?17:09
houdTaln:the guest account is only for guests.all the things you will save on the guest account will be deleted!!17:09
Talnhoud: right. Do you know how to fix this? What is the process that handles the top and side bar?17:09
sagexhey17:09
trismtommyangelo: oh I am just trying to figure out if the package ever shipped minizip headers/libs, but I don't see anything in the changelog about it, so I'm guessing it only ever included the minizip binaries in zlib-bin17:10
trismtommyangelo: difficult to tell though17:11
tommyangelotrism: ok I see what you mean now17:11
YatharthROCKCan you change the system language/locale w/o restarting or relogging? Maybe be restarting lightdm or something? Or restarting init.d (w/e that is)?17:11
sagexI have a radeon 4200 mobility I installed the amd catalyst drivers and now the window manager is messed up and the windows have to be resized and moved via the right click alternative options also my native resolution is lower than it actually was before I installed the cata* drivers17:12
TalnYatharthROCK: hat?17:12
HaffeCould someone help me with this problem? I install Ubuntu to a laptop, chose to use the entire disk. Everytime I reboot I get "grub error: out of disk".17:12
Talnwhat17:12
TalnYatharthROCK: how2?17:12
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YatharthROCKTaln, I didn't understand. hat?17:13
YatharthROCKTaln, Yes, I want a how-to17:14
sagexI have class in a couple minutes I'll handle this later on17:15
YatharthROCKCan you change the system language/locale w/o restarting or relogging? Maybe be restarting lightdm or something? Or restarting init.d (w/e that is)?17:15
sagex!amd drivers17:15
sagex!catalyst17:16
mega1in server12.04 how do i list all services running17:16
OzeraRight well that didn't fix it17:16
jribmega1: services --status-all17:16
OzeraI am Taln. Does anyone know how to get the top side bars back?17:17
OzeraI cant see the top and side bars on ubuntu 12.04. However i can click on the icons, but i just cant see them. Also everything is going slow and I still have terminal accesss17:17
OzeraIs unity what i need to restart?17:17
BioSoreHeya! Does anyone know if it its possible to send SSH commands via a mounted SSHFS from windows?17:21
jribBioSore: is there a reason you do not just use putty on windows to send commands?17:21
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BioSoreI just wanted an easy to way to automate repeated applications17:22
jribBioSore: like what?17:22
RickZillaHaffe: Bad sectors? might have to do a disk check before installing again17:23
BioSorei would like to run a transcode script that will transcode and upload the autoput to a server. I have this script (in Python), but would like to run it through SSHFS17:23
houdTaln:im sorry bu ti can say one think(have you make the updates and have you install the additional hard drives?17:23
jribBioSore: run it when?  When you copy a file?17:23
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Ozerahoud: what??17:24
houdyou must make updates and install the additional grapic hard drives17:24
KatbuntuHello17:24
Ozerahoud: wtf are graphic hard drives17:25
TaintI keep getting errors about configurations with my monitor17:25
houddo you use linux on laptop or on pc17:25
Taintright now the screen looks distorted17:25
Ozeralaptop17:25
BioSorejrib: I would like to run it by having some form of macro setup so that I can right-click on a file/folder on SSHFS and it sends the command to the server with information concerning the folder I selected17:25
houdah you dont need to know it its only fowr pc(if you want to have sound you must install the additional graphic hardrives!17:26
jarcoHello people, I am looking for sound software to try and make the sound of a space marine vox transmitter/reciever. Is there any linux/ubuntu software that is recommended for this?17:26
Ozerais unity what is running the stuff houd ?17:27
houdjarco:go to ubuuntu software center or look for one on the web17:27
Picijarco: There are a number of fancy and powerful packages that come with the ubuntustudio-audio metapackage17:27
yhushatheres no settings for swappyness in the conf file17:27
jribBioSore: well for something like that, I imagine it's really a question for ##windows.  You want to add something to a directories right click menu that sends an ssh command over.  I don't see how you would do it otherwise.  I was thinking of a different situation: you could for example use inotify to monitor a directory and automatically perform actions on files added to it17:27
houdOzera:sorry i cant  undertand i have cinnamon!17:27
jribs/directories/directory's17:28
Ozerahoud: what17:28
Taintwtf did I do to make the screen so small and have all these monitor errors?17:28
BioSorejrib: I might be able to use that instead.17:28
houdOzera:do you use xubuntu or ubuntu?17:28
jribBioSore: in that case look into inotify and incron17:28
Taintubuntu17:29
jarcopici, houd : I was looking for one that is known to be very good. Like gimp is for pixel based image editing17:29
BioSorethanks, jrib17:29
stefanohello17:29
houdah i understand!17:29
RickZillajarco: might try t plugin for audacity17:29
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Ozerahoud: Ubuntu 12.0417:30
Picijarco: You could ask in #ubuntustudio for specifics.17:30
pratzhow can i bind a key in .bashrc ?17:30
RickZillaUnity looks like it needs to be on a tablet or something...which wouldn't be a bad deal at all, I just didn't like it on my desktop/laptop17:31
houdOzera:you can open a windows programm wich you used with paint if  you used windows17:31
jarcowill do Pici . And i will take a look at audacity plugins RickZilla . Thanks for the suggestions17:31
Ozerahoud: http://pastebin.com/SSS87jpt17:31
Taintthis is the error(s) I get and ubuntu itself is too small.17:31
Tainthttp://pastebin.com/89xGWcy917:31
houdyou17:31
Ozerahoud: why are you telling me about paint17:31
jribpratz: what was the answer a few hours ago?17:31
OzeraCan someone help me fix this please?17:32
houdOzera you can insrtall gimp on terminal sudo apt-geet install gimp or blender17:32
Ozerahoud: stop trolling17:32
houdyou can  open windows programms with wine or crossove17:33
pratzjrib: fair enough, but did not get a good reply from there17:33
Ozerathat is true houd. That is not the issue though17:33
jribpratz: you left without asking your question :/17:33
OzeraMy issue is that the top and side bars are missing17:33
houdpaint is a good windows programm but you can use blender or gimp17:33
jribpratz: you can use ~/.inputrc .  There are some example in "man bash"17:34
Ozerajrib: are you able to help me? Here is the erros I am getting when I do: compiz --restart http://pastebin.com/SSS87jpt17:34
RickZillaOzera: And this was from a fresh install?17:34
OzeraRickZilla: no17:34
pratzjrib: ok, will check them17:34
houdOzera:try blender(sudo apt-get install blender17:34
TaintI don't get this... idk what to do. no resolution is working correctly17:34
RickZillaOzera, I don't know if the install disk has the ability to fix errors...I would also look into your disk health, especially if you have things like that missing17:35
OzeraRickZilla: the guest account works fine17:35
jribpratz: you can also use bind like someone else said in #bash17:35
RickZillaOzera: it could still be trying to access sectors elsewhere on your other account17:35
pratzyes, they said to use bind17:35
jarcoRickZilla, Thanks for your suggestion, I am already near the sound with audacity.17:35
OzeraRickZilla: so how do I fix this?17:36
pratzbut I have not edited .bashrc before and I am not sure how to do it17:36
Picipratz: bash's manpage describes how to use bind...17:36
RickZillaOzera, you might have to log into your guest account, but find the disk settings, and click on the "SMART" data icon to see what it says17:36
pratzPici: jrib i use this - bind '"HISTCONTROL":"\C-h"'  but not working for me17:36
RickZillaI don't know of the exact path, but it's in there somewhere17:36
pratzin the sense I have done some mistake, as I have not done this before17:37
jribpratz: I don't know... just modifying ~/.inputrc is likely easier.  But I don't use bash, so I can't tell you for sure17:37
OzeraRickZilla: can i do anything here? Like restart something17:37
usr13Ozera: are you 12.04 ?17:37
pratzjrib: ok17:37
Ozerausr13: yes17:38
usr13Ozera: fully updated?17:38
RickZillaOzera: You have to access your disk properties, I don't know if you can get to them from your broekn Unity or not17:38
Ozerausr13: not fully updated17:38
usr13Ozera: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade17:38
Picipratz: then you should mention what you've tried in #bash, I don't use bash as my login shell, so I can't really help with specifics.17:39
usr13Ozera: from tty6  (Ctrl-Alt-F6)17:39
pratzwhat you guys use then , is it zsh ?17:39
Picipratz: usually17:39
TaintI'm sure this problem will be easy for you guys to solve, I just want to be able to use ubuntu17:39
* jrib nods17:39
usr13Taint: What is it?17:40
usr13.... we like easy ...17:40
Taintkeep getting a small screen with a list of errors about my monitor config17:40
Tainthttp://pastebin.com/89xGWcy917:40
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Taintwish I knew how to screenshot it to show how wrong it looks..17:41
RickZillaTaint: Hit the Print Screen button, then paste that into an image editor17:42
drecuteTaint: Application -> screenshot17:42
usr13Taint: lspci | pastebinit17:43
usr13... and send resulting URL17:43
usr13Taint: Where did you get http://pastebin.com/89xGWcy9 from?17:44
RickZillaYou guys do it the easy way...I do it the hard way :-)17:44
usr13Taint: pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log17:46
Tainthttp://www.freeimagehosting.net/c2asz17:46
PymousHello !17:46
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PymousI just installed a fresh Ubuntu Server, but the root access is declined for password reason17:46
PymousWhat is the default password for root plz ? :)17:47
Ozera_usr13: I couldn't type so i had to go to the guest account17:47
Ozera_usr13: So is Unity what is broken?17:47
jazzkutyaPymous: there is no root password, root account is disabled17:47
usr13Ozera_: Couldn't type what in?17:48
netmk!root | Pymous17:48
ubottuPymous: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo17:48
Ozera_usr13: the chat box. Everything was very slow17:48
usr13Ozera_: Couldn't do Ctrl-Alt-F6 ?17:48
Tainteven when I "fix" the resoultion when I restart it goes back to that list of errors17:48
Ozera_O i didn't see you say that. I pressed: CTRL+ALT+T for the terminal and ran the update17:49
Ozera_idk if it finished or now17:49
usr13Ozera_: Oh.  Ok.17:49
usr13Ozera_: good.17:49
KatbuntuHuh17:49
Ozera_usr13: so what is broken? Unity?17:49
usr13Ozera_: Is it working ok now?17:49
KatbuntuWhich *buntu do yo think it's better for and oldie nvidia 9300M GS card?17:50
Ozera_usr13: i dont think so. I am on the guest account17:50
KatbuntuGraphic effects on Kubuntu work well with Nouveau, a bit worse with Nvidia driver17:50
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Katbuntuand Unity on 12.04 is, well, good and I like it. But when I tried 12.10 it was very buggy.17:50
PymousOh right !17:50
|Frodo|hello! i am running kubuntu 11.4 and try to get a "beep" from my terminal (konsole). but pc-speaker and "normal" loudspeaker don't give any sound if I try "echo $'\a'"! what is wrong here?17:50
PymousDebian have one17:50
Pymousdon't him me !17:50
usr13Ozera_: Should be same on either.  So the update process is done now, right?17:50
shantornhi, i have a training video for my wife thats on dvd, what would be a simple way to compress it to fit on a cd size media?17:50
Pymoushit17:50
FloodBot1Pymous: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.17:50
Ozera_usr13: i dont think so. I think I restarted before it finished17:51
Taintwhy does it say unknown for my monitor?17:51
Ozera_what was the command usr13 ?17:51
usr13Ozera_: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade17:51
Ozera_usr13: okay i'm goin back to the broken account17:52
hilohello I just ran "chmod 777 * -R" thinking it would make everything in and below chmod 777 when it actually chmod'd my entire filesystem. How can I fix this so my system is not insecure as hell17:53
llutzhilo: fresh install17:53
hilollutz, really the only fix?17:53
llutzhilo: not the only but the fastest17:53
rumpe1hilo, reinstall17:54
nonkn4merhilo: unless you have a snapshot from before the change17:54
FrostbyteLittle help here please? "testsaslauthd -u *something* -p *something* -s *something*" returns "connect() : No such file or directory 0:" and I can't get it to work.. I may also add that I've set up dovecot/postfix to use mysql as well (if that influences it any), my mailserver works however.. I'm just trying to link the email database with the openvpn.. Any clue?17:54
hiloso what is the use of the chmod -R option?17:54
nonkn4merwithout the * it would have changed the permissions of whatever was in that folder17:55
nonkn4mer-R is recursive switch17:55
nonkn4mer^^ hilo17:55
rumpe1hilo, to change file permissions recursively17:55
hiloDoesn't that usually recurse through directories BELOW the current?17:56
llutzhilo: it does17:56
jribhilo: what directory did you do it in?17:56
hiloWhy did it recurse UPWARDS and chmod my entire filesystem when I was in a folder below the root17:56
Frostbyteheya llutz, got some time to help me sort something? :p17:56
nonkn4merhilo: * is a wildcard in bash basically meaning "anything"  so your syntax said chmod 777 anything on the filesystem, as well as whatever was inside any folders17:56
llutzFrostbyte: sry no, have to leave soon. you got your dovecot running=17:56
llutz?17:56
hiloYeah but when I ran the command I was in "/array" not "/"17:57
Frostbytellutz : yeap, now I'm trying to link it with my openvpn17:57
nonkn4merthe * wildcard in your syntax negated the working directory17:57
jazzkutyanonkn4mer: i don't think that's true17:57
hiloThen what is the syntax for chmod everything in and below the current directory17:57
Pymouschmod -R17:58
jazzkutyahilo: safer is chmod -R .17:58
LuizAngiolettiHello17:58
LuizAngiolettiWhere can I get the original sources.list for quantal17:58
LuizAngioletti?17:58
jazzkutyahilo: have you had a symlink maybe somewhere deep in /array to the root dir?17:58
nonkn4merjazzkutya: checking the man page to verify my fact... you may be correct17:58
nonkn4merjazzkutya: er... verify my statement17:58
Frostbytellutz : trying to make the openvpn pull user/pass from the mail db through pam_mysql now17:58
HaffeRickZilla: The disc is brand new.17:58
HaffeBought it yesterday.17:58
hilojazzkutya, not sure. trying to fix something for someone and broke it entirely :(17:59
Ozerausr13: okay i'm on the broken account17:59
Ozerai'm running the update17:59
Frostbytellutz : but for some reason, I cannot test the authentication.. that's why I need help :p17:59
bobweaverhilo,  what permissions are you changing ? all files or re there some folder in there too ?17:59
jardineworksany chance someone can help me figure out why ubuntu hates me? :) I can only seem to get sound out of my laptop speakers -- even when my headphones are jacked. I have  found a lot of posts online about this but so far can't seem to resolve.17:59
jazzkutyaas * does not expand . and .. dirs I also don't know how could that command get to the root if the working directory was really /array17:59
jardineworksany audiophiles in here that can help?18:00
llutzFrostbyte: ya i read it but i don't have any idea where to look18:00
hilobobweaver, every file in every folder in the directory /array (Which is a mountpoint for a raid array)18:00
nonkn4merjazzkutya: looks like you were right.  * only applies to current directory.  You are probably right with the symlink.  sorry for distributing incorrect info18:00
Frostbytellutz : I've looked around.. the part I'm stuck is that testsaslauthd doesn't work as the articles tell18:00
Ozerausr13: last night i installed EVE with winetricks. Do you think that is what broke Unity?18:00
mnshow do I get Update Manager to make use of a proxy rathern then a direct connection ?18:00
rumpe1mns, tsocks18:01
Frostbytellutz : http://now-code.com/archives/662 check 5.318:01
llutzhilo: i just tested that, chmod behaves as expected here. do you have any symlink to / below /array?18:01
jazzkutyajardineworks: what would be the problem? (not really audiophile but a bit into hi-fi)18:02
Frostbytellutz : instead of OK "Success" I get connect() : No such file or directory 0:18:02
jazzkutyajardineworks: i see now18:02
jardineworksjazzkutya, I have an alienware m17x. Sounds works out of the main speakers no issue. I plug in the headphones, no sound.18:02
evangelosavgerinhello all18:02
hilollutz, I don't think so. how can I test?18:02
bobweaverhilo,  cool you know that you can use things like "find"  to set the "type" and also then use exec to change permissions     example:   find /path/to/foo -type f -exec chmod 644 -exec {} \;18:03
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evangelosavgerinthanks for your time :)18:03
BigC85mns I think if you set up a proxy on your defualt internet connection I dont think you  can do it for updates its self18:03
hiloI figured out why18:03
llutzFrostbyte: does the warning on http://gogs.info/books/debian-mail/chunked/postfix.sasl.html  help?18:03
jazzkutyajardineworks: try looking for something like "pulseaudio profiles" in system settings18:04
llutzhilo: layer-8 problem, typo (/*) ?18:04
Frostbytellutz : I've also read that article, however I'm kinda afraid to touch it.. because it might mess my working email.. shall I attempt it?18:04
hiloIt seems I put a typo (my "." key presses when you brush your hand over it) and the command that actually got entered was "chmod 777 .* -R"18:04
nonkn4merllutz: first time i've ever heard layer 8.  Going to start using that now :)18:04
hiloThat .* would cause this correct?18:04
gordonjcpjardineworks: when you plug the headphones in, does it change the volume?  I've had that before...18:05
jardineworksjazzkutya, I don't see anything like that under system settings18:05
jardineworksdoesn't appear to18:05
jardineworksI used alsamixer to make sure the volume was up18:05
llutzhilo: yes, when run with sudo , .* expands to ".." too and there you are18:05
gordonjcpjardineworks: and in the normal pulseaudio mixer?18:05
bobweaverhilo,  why 777 ? that can be dangerous ?18:05
jazzkutyajardineworks: sorry can't help more as i'm not at home where my kubuntu is and this new pulseaudio stuff is new for me too18:06
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Ozerausr13: What do I do after the update finishes?18:06
hilobobweaver, trying to share the array with samba (well really I'm open to options) but can't get anything to work18:06
gordonjcpjardineworks: sometimes you need to edit a config file to tell the sound module what sort of card it is18:06
jardineworksgordonjcp, how do I bring the pulse audio mixer up?18:06
nonkn4merOzera: shutdown -r now18:06
gordonjcpjardineworks: the wee speaker symbol in the top right18:06
llutzFrostbyte: make sure to have an actual backup. but i don't know if that really applies to your situation.18:06
jardineworkshahaha18:06
bobweaver!samba | hilo  you have rad this ?18:07
jardineworksduh18:07
Ozeranonkn4mer: it isn't finished just yet but okay18:07
ubottuhilo  you have rad this ?: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.18:07
jardineworks:)18:07
hilobobweaver, files saved from other machines via samba save as the user "501" and group "dialout"18:07
llutznonkn4mer: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Layer_818:07
gordonjcpjardineworks: your audio chip is most likely intel, but the Intel HDA chips are wired up all kinds of different ways on different boards18:07
Ozeranonkn4mer: is Unity what is broken?18:07
Frostbytellutz : basicly, I had no saslauthd in /var/run, so I made the symlink and it worked.. I'll take it from here, thanks for suggesting that I should do it :p18:07
hilobobweaver, I feel like I've read every tutorial there is on samba and can't get it to work in any mode other than guest access to everything18:07
jardineworksgordonjcp, when I open that I can see the headphones as an option (selected) and the speakers.18:07
gordonjcpjardineworks: in Windows you get a specific sound driver that works on your motherboard and no other, that tells the sound driver how to look at the Intel HDA ports, but in Linux you don't have that18:07
jardineworksno difference in here no matter what I choose18:08
gordonjcpso you have to tell the driver yourself ;-)18:08
bobweaverhilo,  I am not v.good with samba TBH others are though ;)18:08
jardineworksgordonjcp, fair enough -- how or where do I do that?18:08
hilobobweaver, I also tried NFS initially but file transfers would drop everytime making it unusable18:08
gordonjcpjardineworks: well, I'm having a wee look around on Google, but you could also try googling something like "ubuntu alienware m17x no sound"18:09
gordonjcpjardineworks: which I'm sure you've done already ;-)18:09
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jardineworksgordonjcp, been doing that for weeks haha18:09
jardineworksgordonjcp, I have even seen a bunch of SOLVED! .. but none of them are working for me18:09
nonkn4merOzera: not sure.  haven't been following your issue.  just answered the "what to do after update" question.  sorry18:09
bobweaverjardineworks,  what is output of   "aplay -l "  ?18:09
gordonjcpjardineworks: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+question/20989218:10
gordonjcpjardineworks: does that describe your problem?18:10
gordonjcpjardineworks: or is that you? :-)18:10
ztguHello, anyone here who can help me with finding a linux compatible laptop?18:10
jardineworksgordonjcp, not me, but same machine18:11
bobweaverztgu,  there are oem's that ship Ubuntu Now like Dell18:11
jardineworksgordonjcp, I just found a post that said upgrade to ubuntu 12.11 to fix it. I didn't even know that 12.11 was out18:11
gordonjcp12.10 is18:11
gordonjcp12.11 won't be ;-)18:11
bobweaverztgu,  google project sputnick18:11
jardineworkslol18:12
jardineworkssorry... I think the person meant 12.1018:12
bobweaverztgu,  http://content.dell.com/us/en/gen/d/campaigns/xps-linux-laptop18:12
Ozeranonkn4mer: I can't see the top or side bars and everything is laggy. I'm on Ubuntu 12.0418:12
jardineworksthey said they upgraded from 12.04 (whcih is what I am using)18:12
gordonjcpjardineworks: anyway it may be that the 3.2 kernel hasn't got the right magic yes18:12
gordonjcp*yet18:12
BigC85ztgu system 7618:12
hilollutz, bobweaver is there a long way that I could use to manually fix this filesystem in place? The server is not physically available to me which really makes a reformat a difficult solution...18:12
Ozeranonkn4mer: I can still click where the icons would be but i cant see them.18:12
gordonjcpjardineworks: that's what it comes down to though, the Intel HDA chips are just wired up so many different ways18:12
bobweaverztgu,  there is also things like system 76 and also pugett sound computers18:13
gordonjcpjardineworks: you end up with really weirdass problems where two *identical* machines don't behave the same, because they have different board steppins18:13
ztguI want to install linux on a windows laptop18:13
gordonjcp*steppings18:13
nonkn4meran easy way to tell would be to log out, and change your desktop manager18:13
nonkn4mer^^ Ozera18:13
gordonjcpjardineworks: literally, two brand new machines out the crate, and one has totally different sound hardware to the other18:13
jardineworksgordonjcp, awesome. (insert sarcastic emoticon here)18:14
gordonjcpjardineworks: PCs are horrible18:14
bobweaverztgu,  http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/18:14
KI4ROztgu:http://tuxmobil.org/laptop_manufacturer.html18:14
nonkn4merOzera: are you married to Unity or can you switch it to something else?18:14
jribhilo: if you have a reference for the known good permissions, you can use getfacl and setfacl to rectify the permissions18:15
jardineworksgordonjcp, I dunno... apart from this one issue, I have had no problems with this laptop and it is incredibly fast and sturdy (for what I am doing)18:15
jardineworksgordonjcp, just wish I could listen to something other than silence haha18:16
cambazzhello, i am trying to a dist upgrade and i can not.. it keeps asking for inserting ubuntu 12.04 LTS precise pangolin cd, and i downloaded it and put it but it stalls18:16
compdoccambazz, is the PC connected to the web?18:16
bobweavercambazz,  from 11.10 to 12.04 ?18:17
SpaceRocketunable to connect Huwaei K3770 however it's readable by the network manager but fails to establish network connection18:17
cambazzyes18:17
ztguwhat about fedora certified laptops?18:17
cambazzbobweaver: yes18:17
cambazzpardon18:17
bobweaverztgu,  ask in ##fedora18:17
cambazz10.04LTS18:17
jribhilo: also, if you messed up the permissions on /etc/sudoers you won't be able to sudo so make sure you fix that before closing any open sudo sessions you have...18:17
cambazzwhen I run update manager it says: Not all updates can be installed18:17
bobweaver!info do-release-upgrade | cambazz  this is what you are using ?18:17
ubottucambazz this is what you are using ?: Package do-release-upgrade does not exist in quantal18:17
bobweaverspelling18:18
diverdudeIs there a tool similar to gparted which also handles raid setup and can format/delete etc. large HDDs (4TB) quickly?18:18
bobweaver!info   do-release-upgrade18:18
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cambazzubottu: no. or i dont know18:18
ubottucambazz: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)18:18
bobweaverhuh dumb bot  cambazz  are you using  do-release-upgrade  to upgrade  ?18:18
hilojrib, please elaborate? the permissions for everything in the fs got changed to 77718:19
cambazzbobweaver: now I am :) :)18:19
gordonjcpjardineworks: you don't fancy upgrading to 12.10?18:19
jribhilo: what are your permissions on /etc/sudoers?18:19
cambazzWARNING: Failed to read mirror file18:20
cambazzWARNING: Failed to read mirror file18:20
cambazzow18:20
cambazzpardon18:20
jardineworksgordonjcp, sorry? I think you missed a work in there18:20
hilojrib, 77718:20
hilojrib, literally everything is 777... it's retarded...18:21
bobweavercambazz,  ok cd /etc/apt/     then    gksudo  gedit sources.list          is the one for the cd commented out ?18:21
bobweaver!pastebin | cambazz  you can pastebin that file for use to see ?  thank's18:21
ubottucambazz  you can pastebin that file for use to see ?  thank's: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.18:21
jribhilo: you probably can't use sudo then.  Do you have an open session where you are root?  Or a root password set?18:21
hilonope I cant sudo18:22
hilocrap18:22
hiloso that system is totally fubar??18:22
diverdudeIs there a tool similar to gparted which also handles raid setup and can format/delete etc. large HDDs (4TB) quickly?18:22
cambazzhere: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1408438/18:22
bobweaverthanks cambazz  looking now18:22
hilo"must be setuid to sudo"18:23
cambazzbtw, it is doing do-release-upgrade18:23
cambazzwith mising packages18:23
hilofack18:23
jribhilo: well unless you have a root password or some session open where you did "sudo -i" for example, then you need some sort of physical access (or similar) to rectify the situation18:23
bobweaverok cambazz  look at lines  6 --918:23
jribhilo: and even then, a fresh install is going to be easier anyway18:23
jardineworksgordonjcp, curious... the update manager doesn't notify me that there is an upgrade available.18:24
cambazzok what aobut them18:24
hilojrib, yeah fresh install is the only option18:24
bobweavercambazz,  put a # in the start of line 618:24
hilojrib, Plans reorganized around physical travel... reformat and reinstall at 5pm18:24
hilojrib, since I can't sudo, how can I mount a usb device or similar to backup data from the system18:24
cambazzbobweaver: ok and then?18:25
bobweavercambazz,  should look like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/1408446/18:25
bobweavercambazz,  then save the file and run in terminal     sudo do-release-upgrade18:25
jribhilo: it should get mounted automatically, no?  Or try using udisks?  If that fails, just boot a live cd18:25
jardineworksgordonjcp, ah -- there it is. Had the "LTS notification" options checked.18:25
SpaceRocket3G USB modem not working after upgrade to 12.1018:26
hilothanks all18:26
Frostbytellutz : still doesn't wanna work.. it ignores the sql setting and it keeps looking on shadow file : /18:26
cambazzbobweaver: thank you trying again18:27
bobweavercambazz,  what do you mean try again ?18:27
Catbuntuohai18:28
vengamachoholaaa18:34
vengamachoargún españó?18:34
EntropyWorkswhats the deal with 12.10 and the new naming of NIC's.18:34
EntropyWorksI sometimes get em3 and then reboot and get rename4 other times...18:35
bobweaver!Spanish | vengamacho18:35
ubottuvengamacho: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.18:35
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daveinlvDoes an "apt-get --purge remove mysql-server remove the /var/lib/mysql databases?18:40
jribdaveinlv: probably not.  Check which package provides that directory using dpkg -S18:41
daveinlvok ty!!18:41
jribdaveinlv: is there a reason you ask though?18:42
daveinlvjrib: I seem to have bollixed up my mysql install, such that even when entering the known correct admin pswd for mysql, I get told it is wrong.. I think I know what caused it, I had been using webmin to admin mysql... all the sudden webmin was prompting for the mysql root password, which I had NOT changed..18:45
jribdaveinlv: you can just reset that18:45
zykotick9!webmin | daveinlv are you aware of this?18:46
ubottudaveinlv are you aware of this?: webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system.18:46
jribdaveinlv: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MysqlPasswordReset18:46
jriband yes, webmin isn't recommended18:46
daveinlvjrib: yeah... already did the "dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.5" and mysql still sez its wrong18:46
jribdaveinlv: follow the steps in that link18:46
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daveinlvjrib: thank you...18:47
moon`is there a command you need to run after installing cinnamon or should it just show up?18:51
* zykotick9 thinks cinnamon needs a factoid...18:52
PerkolHello. I can't connect Vidalia to Tor. When i start it just show me that tor is not running. Meanwhile, Tor daemon is running. Any ideas?18:52
* jrib nominates zykotick9 to write one :)18:52
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bobweaverPerkol,  is Tor connecting on start up ?18:53
RickZillamoon': You have to log out, then log back in again with the 'cinnamon' setting18:54
moon`okay, brb18:54
moon`thanks rickzilla18:54
xanguaPerkol: are you using the bundled it's provided at the tor web¿18:55
PerkolNo, i installed Vidalia and Tor separately. I'm not using browser bundle.18:55
xanguaPerkol: well you should, is what they recomend and it's easier anyways ;)18:57
ontimeGuys... I have an old tower that I need to run ubuntu on and set up bonding because of the sporadic connectivity of my two ISP's.   Is it possible (I imagine it is) to run ubuntu live and set up bonding?  Thanks.18:57
bekksontime: Bonding will not do what you want at that point.18:57
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bekksSince having different gateways, you cant setup bonding on both adapters.18:58
ontimeoh, I see bekks.18:58
nonkn4merontime: sounds like you want a router with loadbalance/failover, not nic bonding18:58
ontimeso OpenWRT is probably my only bet.18:58
bekksOr IPCop, or something like that.18:59
EntropyWorksshouldn't /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules have something in it on 12.10? I just did a fresh install and its empty.18:59
ontimeyes nonkn4mer, that's what I need.18:59
nonkn4merontime: depending on the size of your network, I set up a SonicWall NSA220 for my office (supporting ~60 users) and it's been working well.  I have garbage Cox coax coming in and garbage Century Link DSL for failover19:00
ontimenonkn4mer: that unit is out of my price range :p19:01
compdocEntropyWorks, havent tried 12.10. Is networking working? maybe network manager is controlling19:02
nonkn4merontime: that is just what I use.  I would assume most decent routers will give you a LB/FO option...19:02
ontimenonkn4mer: most Dual WAN routers, you mean?19:02
EntropyWorksthis is on a server install btw.19:02
mwicDoes anyone know where the Time Tracker application stores its data?19:02
mwicI need to recover mine19:02
daveinlvjrib: Went thru that mysql password reset procedure, and no joy... if I run "mysql -u root" I'm not prompted for a password, and once I'm in via "mysql -u root" if I try to use any of the dbs on the server, I'm told I don't have rights for it...  sigh19:03
zykotick9ontime: fyi, pFsense (a bsd firewall distro) does support 2 WANs/ISPs19:03
jribdaveinlv: mysql -u root -p19:04
ontimezykotick9: thanks, I've noted it.19:04
compdocEntropyWorks, there are commands to force19:04
bkfitzAnyone here used Cisco Cloud Connect or DLink MyDLink to access router attached usb drive NAS storage from the outside19:04
EntropyWorkscompdoc: in 12.10 server at least, you won't have eth0 ,1,2 for built in network cards. instead you will get em1,2,3 but I'm having em3 sometime come up as rename4 instead.19:05
daveinlvjrib: that DOES prompt for a password, but when I enter the password I just put in with the procedure you gave, I get "access denied for user 'root'@'localhost" using password = yes19:05
jribdaveinlv: what did you do exactly?19:06
jribdaveinlv: when you reset the password19:06
daveinlvjrib: I'm not sure.. again, it was via webmin, which up until NOW, had always worked fine for me...19:06
jribdaveinlv: I mean just now, what did you do to reset the password?19:07
jribdaveinlv: by the way, do you have untrusted users connecting to mysql?19:07
daveinlvThe link you gave me https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MysqlPasswordReset19:07
jribdaveinlv: there are several methods on that page19:07
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daveinlvjrib: did the alternate method, and the root acct that can access from anywhere.. the server is an ubuntu/xen vps.19:09
jribdaveinlv: do step 319:09
krabadori installed nvidia 173 driver from the site, because nvidia-173 on synaptic isn't updated tu support ABI 13 (xorg-server 1.13), i've problems with unity and gnome shell, blank screen and pointer.what can i do?19:10
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daveinlvThe firewall blocks mysql/3306 access, I have an OpenVPN connection I use to admin the server...19:10
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moon`is compiz stable on a 64bit 12.10 build?19:11
MohawkCan someone help me?19:11
moon`Mohawk: you're better off asking your question and waiting for a response rather that asking if someone can help you.  Ask and if they can they will19:12
Ozeranonkn4mer: are you still here?19:12
zykotick9Mohawk: ask you question and see.  give details, all on one line.19:12
MohawkMy login screen is weird. It is different than my settings. It replicates the two screens instead of exnteding them like i want it to19:12
OzeraI'm on ubuntu 12.04. I can't see the top or side bars and everything is very laggy. I can access terminal and still click on side bar icons but i cant see them19:13
OzeraCan someone tell me how to fix this?19:13
Mohawkthe settings, i set to extend the displays, does not work for the login screen19:13
bobweaverOzera,  you have tried reseting the icons from command line ?19:13
Ozerabobweaver: how do I do that?19:14
daveinlvjrib: I'm not sure what you mean by "step 3"... there is one line numbered "3", but its just "SET PASSWORD FOR root@'localhost' = PASSWORD('password');19:14
bobweaverOzera,  unity --reset-icons19:14
EntropyWorkscompdoc: do you know the command to force the creation of the 70-presistent-net.rules doing INTERFACE=em3 /lib/udev/write_net_rules doesn't do the trick, just errors with missing valid match19:14
Ozerai shall try that now19:14
jribdaveinlv: yes, I mean follow the procedure on that page and include the step you just quoted19:14
daveinlvok will do19:14
MohawkAnd I have another issue, My computer, with the dual screens, when I try to enlarge the display on my secondary (laptop) screen, it enlarges it and puts it on my main display19:15
CruX|hello google talk is not working in chrome under 64 bit ubuntu19:15
CruX|why ?19:15
MohawkSo no one can help me?19:16
daveinlvjrib: on step 2 "FLUSH PRIVILEGES" I get access denied, you need at least one of the RELOAD privileges for this operation19:16
jribdaveinlv: did you stop mysql and start it with --skip-grant-tables --skip-networking like the first steps 1 and 2 say?19:17
daveinlvjrib: no not this time I didn't... I read those steps as part of the previous steps 1 and 2 - guess I just misunderstood that part19:19
krabadori installed nvidia 173 driver from the site, because nvidia-173 on synaptic isn't updated tu support ABI 13 (xorg-server 1.13), i've problems with unity and gnome shell, blank screen and pointer.what can i do?19:23
daveinlvjrib: after running mysqld with --skip-grant-tables and --skip-networking, I get "cant find any matching row in the user table" when I do "set password for root@'localhost' = password('password');19:23
Megidohi19:24
Megidowho install steam ?19:24
moon`what's the difference between libre office and open office?19:24
krabadorMegido, i but i'm not a tester19:24
Megidosteam work?19:24
krabadormoon`, the license19:24
krabadorMegido, yes19:24
Megidohmm19:24
jribdaveinlv: ok, maybe #mysql can help you better then19:24
Megidohow u install?19:24
Megidou have link?19:25
NoskcajNoskcaj, is disappointed in moon19:25
krabadorMegido, yes wait a moment19:25
Megidook19:25
OzeraI'm on the guest account now. I couldn't type anything in the broken acount19:25
gimpy54I'm having a problem with wifi on 12.04 with an Intel 6250.  It connects but keeps disconnecting over and over again.  This works fine on Fedora, what could be the problem?  i already disbaled wireless N for the iwlwifi module.19:25
Ozeracan someone try and help me? I tried updating but then it ended with a: dpkg interrupted. or something like that19:26
krabadorMegido, http://steamforlinux.com/?q=en/node/13019:26
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upsetI ran mypaint from the terminal on my resistive tablet computer and it said: Device "eGalax Inc. USB TouchController" has a pressure axis Skipping "eGalax Inc. USB TouchController" (not in the list of known tablets)19:26
florinhei19:26
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upsetDoes anyone know what this list it's referring to is?19:26
daveinlvjrib: I see at the bottom of the page you gave me that there is "another way, purge"... it says you lose your data, but how about if I have saved the /var/lib/mysql directory elsewhere??19:26
Guest36921k19:26
OzeraI'm on ubuntu 12.04 and i can't see the top or side bars. Everything is very laggy, but i can still access terminal and click on icons and everything. Does anyone know what is wrong and how to fix it?19:27
upsetOzera: Woah. What happened?19:28
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Megidokrabador: hmm19:28
upsetOzera: What was going on right before?19:28
Ozeraupset: I booted up my laptop and it was just like it. Before I was working on installing eve and I was fiddling with Winetricks a lot19:29
Megidokrabador: i try install steam from this deb on gentoo but after update steam cant find steamui.so19:29
jribdaveinlv: if you've backed up your data properly and have ensured you can restore your data, then I guess you can do that if you wish19:29
Ozeraupset: the guest account worksjust fine19:29
Megidoor libsteam.so19:29
krabadorMegido, i've no problem with this19:29
upsetOzera: Oh gosh. That doesn't quite make sense.19:29
daveinlvjrib: ok tyvm for the help!19:29
Ozeraupset: Yeah I have no idea what went wrong. Is unity what has broken on my machine? Compiz?19:30
upsetOzera: Do you have anything interesting installed that affects your desktop?19:30
Ozeraupset: this is a laptop. And no i dont.19:30
upsetOzera: Did it require you to mess with Compiz?19:30
Ozeraupset: mmm...honestly i just fucked with Winetricks to make EVE install19:30
upsetOzera: Do you have any other DEs installed?19:30
OzeraDES?19:30
upsetOzera: Desktop environments19:31
krabadorMegido, and i can enter with  steam://open/games without problems19:31
upsetOzera: Gnome, Pantheon, KDE, whatever19:31
Ozeraupset: I dont think so. I never changed anything from the isntall19:31
krabadorMegido, it's an ubuntu package, you know isn't sure that works everywhere, like debian debs on ubuntu19:32
upsetOzera: So you're saying you had a vanilla install, nothing like a wallpaper changer or anything, and then you messed with Wine, and then this?19:32
upsetOzera: No new startup applications?19:32
LuizAngiolettihello19:33
Ozeraupset: o no. This install has been on ehre for a long long time. I'm just saying i never messed with Desktop Environments19:33
LuizAngiolettiI was wondering how does Ubuntu manage wi-fi connections underneath Network-manager.19:33
upsetOzera: Get synaptic and use it to check for broken packages. Do you need help doing that?19:33
cambazzhello, after do-dist-upgrade , (it exited with status -1) my ubuntu will not reboot19:33
cambazzit will say the disk drive for / not ready yet or present19:33
Ozeraupset: Yeah i am going to need help doing that.19:34
cambazzcontunie to wait , S to skip, m for manual recovery19:34
upsetOzera: Sudo apt-get install synaptic19:34
upset*sudo19:34
Ozeraupset: wait do't I already ahve that?19:35
ProfessorBaconIN MY MOUTH?19:35
upsetOzera: You may.19:35
upsetOzera: Enter the command anyway, it will tell you if you have it.19:35
Ozeraupset: it will be hard to tell once i go to the broken account to try and fix19:35
upsetOzera: You don't need to enter the broken account19:35
Ozeraupset: i dont?19:36
upsetOzera: No. You can use root permissions anywhere, I'm pretty sure.19:36
Megidokrabador: this libs have in steam directory19:36
Ozeraupset: that...sounds like a very serious security flaw.19:36
Ozerabt it works in my favor19:36
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krabadorMegido, probably the user can't run it19:37
upsetOzera: It's not. Anyone who is root and has root password can use it. Don't hand that out and it can only be convenient (for situations like this)19:37
krabadorMegido, permission stuff...19:37
Megidoi try run as root19:37
Ozeraupset: er no i cant: http://pastebin.com/a2aBjUT419:37
upsetOzera: Yuck. Okay, strange. Hold on a sec19:39
PymousSmall question ! How can I copy/paste on a Ubuntu Server on a Virtual Machine ? :)19:39
Ozeraupset: okay. I think i may have to go to the broken account because i cant even log in as root19:39
upsetOzera: No, hold on.19:39
upsetOzera: Do you know what root is?19:39
Ozeraupset: it is super user. su19:40
upsetOzera: Cool. So just for clarity's sake, could you post the exact command?19:40
Ozeramhm19:40
Ozerahttp://pastebin.com/Chm4TaRW @ upset19:41
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upsetOzera: This is a toughie. Can you run frontend apps in your broken user account?19:43
rar_rarI've got nagios running in KVM/qemu and trying to get audio alerts through. But getting  apparmor="DENIED" operation="exec" parent=16584 profile="libvirt-xxx" name="/usr/bin/pulseaudio" warnings and no sound.  Any advice on apparmor and getting kvm to pass sound?19:43
dmcoxfreewhats up with the windows installer mid d/l giving error files not found therefore no iso? kubuntu wants me to donate but why?19:43
Ozeraupset: What do you mean? I can start everything up, but again it is very very laggy. I can click on the icons that would be on the side bar, but i can not see them.19:44
CharlesWaldmanhi.  i'm running Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS, just did an 'apt-get update; apt-get upgrade' and now there's a problem with .png files .... eog can't display them, apps which use png icons (e.g. pidgin) display broken icons.  but firefox can load a png19:44
dmcoxfreeive installed ubuntu with no problems but kunbutu is a bitch getting .19:44
gimpy54I'm having a problem with wifi on 12.04 with an Intel 6250.  It connects but keeps disconnecting over and over again.  This works fine on Fedora, what could be the problem?  i already disbaled wireless N for the iwlwifi module.19:45
upsetOzera: Oh, that's not as bad as I thought. Well, first thing I recommend is installing synaptic from the broken account and going to edit-->fix broken packages19:45
Ozeraokay19:46
Ozerais that it? I have to leave in ~ 4min for class19:46
zykotick9upset: fyi "sudo apt-get -f install" does the same thing...19:46
dmcoxfreecant justify donating to a kubuntu if the d/l fails.19:46
upsetzykotick9: Yeah, but GUI frontends are less scary.19:46
savioupset,  apt-get check also fix broken package no?19:47
upsetzykotick9: Also he could then learn about other things he could do19:47
Ozeraupset: eh?19:47
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upsetOzera: You should come back later if it doesn't work, I am also in class19:47
alinmearhi all! i have questions regarding nfs4: is it as secure as samba (nfs4 without kerberos authent.); is the transfer encrypted?19:48
Ozerao okay. Welp: sudo apt-get isntall synaptic19:48
Ozerathen edit --> fix broken packages19:48
Ozeragotcha19:48
zykotick9alinmear: nfs is not encrypted.  i don't think samba is either...19:48
bekksalinmear: Samba transfer isnt encrypted at all.19:49
alinmearzykotick9: i want to use it for my linux enviroment at home? can i use it without kerberos and ssh for save use on wlan or not?19:50
alinmearbekks: thank you19:50
bekksalinmear: No. Use sshfs if you have to rely on an insecure wlan.19:51
alinmearbekks: when is use sshfs is there a way for limitating the access to the nfs4 share; i think right now when my wlan gets compromised everybody is able to mount my share, isnt it?19:53
bekksNo, it isnt. You have to define the access to your shares.19:54
alinmearbekks: ah ok, thx for reply!19:55
searchingIn /etc/lxdm/lxdm.conf the theme of greeter theme=Industrial19:56
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ForSparePartsI just installed 12.10 and Chrome isn't appearing in the list of running programs in the alt-tab window switcher. Any clue why?19:56
cory__hello i need some help with my ubuntu 12.10 it is not finding the wifi everything else in house does19:56
searchingI have Lubuntu Default19:57
cory__hello i need some help with my ubuntu 12.10 it is not finding the wifi everything else in house does19:57
arronhuntcory__ can it just not find your network or is it any wifi network?19:58
TheLordOfTime!repeat | cory__19:59
ubottucory__: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/19:59
SpaceRocketafter I installed kubuntu-desktop on Ubuntu  and while I'm on Unity, many apps like xchat are using the KDE look & feel, how do I restore the GTK look to all apps?19:59
cory__i ahve d-link and it is not finding it and it can work ethernet cord but there is no wifi connecation20:00
cory__i cant find it, i am very new to software20:00
riseandshinecory i had the same problem did you try just enter the ssid and the password?20:01
guilhermekfeI wanna install Ubuntu 12.10 on my laptop, there is currently 11GB free for it, is it ok to create a developing environment? My RAM's size is 6GB, should I add swap?20:01
cory__where do i find the ssid20:01
riseandshinethe ssid is the network name you gave your network20:01
cory__riseandshine where do i find the ssid20:01
mariosgood evening20:02
cory__so would it be a number or a name because the name is d-link20:02
riseandshinedepends on what you choose in your access point20:03
SpaceRocketafter I installed kubuntu-desktop on Ubuntu  and while I'm on Unity, many apps like xchat are using the KDE look & feel, how do I restore the GTK look to all apps?20:03
riseandshineits the name that shows up when you are searching for networks20:03
mariosI'm having issues getting my wireless to work, is this the correct place to ask for help ?20:04
cory__okay can you break it down for me and tell me how to do it in a easy type fashion i have no idea what to do.. please20:04
mariosi have received a dell laptop, with ubuntu preinstalled20:05
mariosi upgraded it to 12.04LTS20:05
marioswifi card is detected as eth1, using the wl driver20:05
mariosok so far20:06
blackholeguys help me im using ubuntu 12.04 but i can't send message using my facebook20:06
marioswhen i try to connect to my wireless network at home .. well i can't20:06
mariosnetwork manager doesn't show my SSID20:06
marios(router works fine, the laptop i'm currently using is connected to it)20:07
blackholeeven like or post a message in facebook please help me...20:07
mariosi have tried disabling the wl broadcam-sta driver20:07
gordonjcpblackhole: are you actually on facebook?20:07
mariosand i loaded the open source driver20:07
blackholeyap20:07
marioscard gets wlan0 name20:07
mariossees /more/ essids, but still not mine :(20:08
blackholegordonjcp, YES20:08
marios(either in network-manager or plain through iwlist wlan0 scanning)20:08
gordonjcpblackhole: perhaps you have some sort of network problem, or maybe facebook is down where you are, or maybe it's blocked by whoever runs your network20:08
gordonjcpblackhole: it's not an Ubuntu problem, though20:08
marioscard is bcm431320:09
blackholegordonjcp, give me step to avoid that20:09
mariosand i'm running out of ideas :p20:09
TheLordOfTimeblackhole, facebook's up from here, so whatever the issue is, its not an Ubuntu issue...20:09
SpaceRockethow to make GTK dialogs effective again after installing KDE on Ubuntu?20:09
MisterMommarios, mayby your router is configured to not brodcast ssid20:09
zykotick9marios: have you seen the !broadcom factoid link?  "/msg ubottu broadcom", it's specific to your chip20:09
blackholegordonjcp, in chat im using the xchat20:10
gordonjcpblackhole: okay...?20:10
mariosrouter is broadcasting ssid20:10
TheLordOfTimeblackhole, if its a networking problem not in your network, it should self-resolve eventually (hopefully) .  if its facebook down in your region, wait.  if its being blocked on your network, talk to the administrator.  Its not a true ubuntu issue though, so there's not too much we can help you with on this.20:10
marioslooking at the factoid now20:11
blackholegordonjcp, do you think i been compromise?20:11
gordonjcpblackhole: I don't see any relevance20:11
blackholegordonjcp, it's been 2 weeks for now...20:12
marioshm20:13
lime__XKB keeps throwing errors20:13
blackholegordonjcp, my ubuntu is ok but when i log-in on my facebook  everything is a mess..20:13
mariosb43 doesn't support my chip20:13
lime__Is there a way I can reset the keyboard edits back to the default?20:14
mariosand i've already tried the sta/brcmsmac drivers20:14
mariosthey both half-work20:14
mariosI guess i'll try to get a more recent kernel20:14
blackholegordonjcp, when i press like in facebook its back to 'like"20:14
mariosperhaps there have been fixes/improvements since 3.2.020:15
mariosthanks for the tip zykotick920:15
blackholegordonjcp, do you think i have to update my java in ubuntu 12.0420:15
blackholethis is head ache for me...20:16
gordonjcpblackhole: no idea, but facebook doesn't use java20:16
gordonjcpblackhole: if your web browser is working, facebook will work20:16
blackholegordonjcp, thanks nayway20:16
gordonjcpblackhole: assuming you haven't got some weird local network issue20:16
blackholegordonjcp, i don't know, what wierd? you mean i.p or somthing like that?20:17
* NightmareNightMo 20:18
ubuntu-userrubuntu 12.4 is freezing so often now when i am surfing on firefox can anybody tell me why, i had this problem never before20:19
blackholegordonjcp, by the way thanks for help20:21
g0bl1nhi, using Gnome, need a hint to take a screenshot for a section of the screen only. Like Cmd+Shift+4 on OSX. If not possible, will use the fab Shutter20:22
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alinmearhow does the uid and guid check work in nfs4?20:23
alinmearis it save for authentication"20:23
LuizAngiolettiHow does ubuntu manage wi-fi connections, underneath the Network-Manager:20:23
LuizAngioletti?20:23
ubuntu-userrubuntu 12.4 is freezing so often now when i am surfing on firefox can anybody tell me why, i had this problem never before20:30
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keithzgTrying to send a message to all logged in terminal sessions of a specific group, but apparently -g isn't a valid option for the Linux version of "wall" (I swear it is on at least some form of BSD)20:32
keithzgIs there any alternative?20:32
jribkeithzg: I guess I would just use write and loop over the users in the group.  I don't know if there is some "built-in" way20:35
action09hi all i use python and virtualenv installed from python-virtualenv  python-pip, when i see virtualenv help it say that  "--no-site-packages" Don't give access to the global site-packages dir to the virtual environment (default; deprecated)20:36
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action09but when i create an env with this option site-packages dir is present..20:36
nonkn4merontime: Yes, I am back now20:37
OpenSorceHey guys, I just used gparted to create a new 60gb partition from free space, it will only let me create it as a Primary partition and then when it's done if I df the drive it says it's only 1.5gb and it won't let me mount it. What am I doing wrong?20:39
ikoniaOpenSorce: have you rebooted after partioning ?20:41
ikoniaor re-run partprobe20:41
OpenSorceikonia, yes20:42
ikoniapastebin the output of fdisk -l20:42
OpenSorceikonia, I'll try partprobe20:42
ikoniawhy ?20:43
ikoniayou've rebooted20:43
ikoniano point20:43
OpenSorceikonia, odd... partprobe gives no output. Anyway, should it be a primary partition?20:44
ikoniaprimary/logical doesn't matter20:44
ikoniaplease pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l please.20:44
OpenSorceikonia, rgr that one sec20:45
voxcroixhi20:45
skulltipanyone using default ubuntu w/unity, I dare you to hit F1 for any help screen20:45
ProfessorBaconchallenge: accepted20:46
ProfessorBaconexcept i'm not at home20:46
ikoniaskulltip: how about just explain your problem/ask for help rather than these sort of silly games20:46
voxcroixi using 64bit 12.1020:46
andrebhi all20:46
BlueEagle!enter | voxcroix20:46
ubottuvoxcroix: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!20:46
andrebhow can i recover a deleted tar.gz file ?20:46
ikoniaandreb: you don't20:47
ikoniaandreb: you need to re-download it20:47
andrebits a backup file i made20:47
OpenSorceikonia, http://pastebin.com/YPpbFXin20:47
ikoniaandreb: how did you delete it ?20:47
andrebrm -rf20:47
ikoniaandreb: then it's gone20:47
skulltipwhen i hit F1 the help screen to any application keeps popping up and stealing focus20:47
BlueEagleandreb: which file does the partition have on which the file was removed from?20:47
ikoniaOpenSorce: which partition is the problem ?20:47
ikoniaOpenSorce: partition 1 ?20:47
BlueEaglefilesystem*20:48
OpenSorceikonia, /dev/sda3/20:48
ikoniaOpenSorce: that's not a pimary20:48
mebuntuHi. What is the equivalent of Kubuntu that uses Gnome instead of KDE? I couldn't find any such thing as Gubuntu and Gobuntu means something else.20:48
ikoniaOpenSorce: that's a logical within the logical partition /dev/sda220:48
ikoniaOpenSorce: actually, it's not, I see the problem20:48
OpenSorceikonia, Gparted said it was... anyway, I can't mount it.20:49
Stuz719mebuntu Ubuntu GNOME remix?20:49
ikoniaOpenSorce: between /dev/sda1's end and the start of the logical partition /dev/sda1 is only a small amount of space20:49
ikoniaOpenSorce: that's a bad/sloppy partition table20:49
Stuz719mebuntu But why would you want GNOME when you can have Unity? ;-)20:50
guntbert_ikonia: if I remember correctly logical partition start with #520:50
OpenSorceikonia, so redo it and give it more space at the beginning?20:50
ikoniaguntbert_: correct20:50
ikoniaguntbert_: but if you look at his partition table, it's all out of sync20:51
mebuntuStuz719: What is the package name? I can't find any remix-desktop or gnome-desktop. I can only find xubuntu-desktop along with (k)ubuntu-desktop and lubuntu-desktop. It's very strange that based on Gnome.20:51
guntbert_ikonia: true :)20:51
ikoniaOpenSorce: just take a moment to actually read the paste you've given to me, look at the "start" and "end" numbers for each partition, and it should be obvious (hopefully) where you've lost the space20:51
EntropyWorkshow is /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules created actually? It does not seem to be working for 12.10 server20:51
Stuz719mebuntu - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/ReleaseNotes/12.1020:51
OpenSorceikonia, this was 60 gigs of my windows drive /dev/sda1 that I wanted to use in Linux20:51
ikoniaOpenSorce: remember, you can 't move partition 2 or anything that's within partitions 2's start/end count20:52
ikoniaOpenSorce: have you put a file system on it ?20:52
OpenSorceikonia, yes I put ext3 on it like my other linux partitions20:52
ikoniaext3 ?20:52
ikonianot ext4 ?20:52
mebuntuStuz719:  Oh, but I can't reinstall the whole thing again. I just need the package name and I want to simply apt-get it.20:53
xangua!info ubuntu-gnome-desktop | mebuntu Stuz71920:53
OpenSorceikonia, many upgrades since my first Ubuntu install :-P20:53
ubottumebuntu Stuz719: ubuntu-gnome-desktop (source: ubuntu-gnome-meta): The Ubuntu GNOME Remix desktop system. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2 (quantal), package size 3 kB, installed size 26 kB20:53
skulltipok it's when i have a terminal program opened and hit F1, forces me to log out and back in20:53
ikoniaOpenSorce: from that side comment, I would suggest a clean isntall to a.) sort out your file system version b.) sort out your partition table, but from your current problem, what's the error when you try to mount it20:53
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mebuntuStuz719: Thanks a lot.20:53
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Stuz719mebuntu np thanx to ubottu and xangua20:54
Stuz719skulltip F1 in terminal brings up terminal help for me - do you mean with a program or within the terminal?20:55
mebuntuStuz719: Oh, it seems it's not available in my Precise :((20:55
OpenSorceikonia, well when I manually mounted it it gave me no trouble... it's the auto-mount that wouldn't work and that error was just "failed to mount..."20:56
ikoniaOpenSorce: look at things like the volume label, make sure there is nothing silly in there that could cause the automounter problem20:56
ikoniaOpenSorce: but I'd still strongly advise you to sort points a.) and b.) out20:56
Stuz719mebuntu try synaptic?20:57
xangua!nounity | mebuntu20:57
ubottumebuntu: Ubuntu 11.10 and higher use GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic20:57
mebuntuStuz719: Yes, I searched all of Synaptic20:57
Stuz719ubottu great reply20:57
skulltipStuz719 -  it brings up a help screen repeatedly and steals focus.20:58
gimpy54I'm having a problem with wifi on 12.04 with an Intel 6250.  It connects but keeps disconnecting over and over again.  This works fine on Fedora, what could be the problem?  i already disbaled wireless N for the iwlwifi module.20:59
Stuz719skulltip what are you searching for help on?20:59
skulltipi hit it accidentally sometimes20:59
OpenSorceikonia, yeah it looks like it's time for a fresh install soon. Just hate to do that I've done so much customization to this :-P20:59
OpenSorceikonia, thanks a lot for your help20:59
Stuz719skulltip are you pressing ESC or 1 a lot?20:59
Laputahi, anyone here ever tried to connect to a remote sybase server using php ?21:00
skulltipthis is gnome terminal btw, not hitting those keys alot. i was running another application and hit f1 for help not realizing i had my terminal in focus. it launched help repeatedly21:00
skulltipthis time i selected Help/contents  (hotkey F1) and it did the same thing21:02
Stuz719skulltip try changing keyboard shortcuts in System Settings?421:03
jardineworksgordonjcp, Finished upgrading to Ubuntu 12.10... headphones still aren't working for me :(21:04
skulltipwhat shortcut do i change21:04
Stuz719skulltip Look through them all (System settings/keyboard) and see which looks likely?21:05
Stuz719skulltip you can always change them back if you keep notes...21:05
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urgodfatherhas anyone tested kernel 3.7?21:06
emxwhich ipod-capable player do you prefere?21:07
xanguai preffer no ipod :)21:07
emxxangua, not prefering ipod is not an option :P21:07
Stuz719xangua good call!21:08
emxheh. shut up and answer my question :P21:08
xangua!polls | emx21:08
ubottuemx: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.21:08
cheekeeI have 12.04 32 bit but want to upgrade to 12.10 64 bit. Is there an approved way to do this?21:08
zykotick9cheekee: yes, reinstall.21:08
xanguacheekee: backup your important data, reinstall21:08
edveanyones knows how to mount a folder into another one ?21:09
Stuz719emx problem is with apple constantly moving the goalposts. I used to like Banshee but then it stopped working with my nano21:09
jardineworksanyone care to take another stab at helping me get my headphones to work with 12.10 x64?21:09
emxfor the record: thanks Stuz71921:09
jardineworkson an Alienware m17x r421:09
jardineworkssupposed to work OOTB ... but still not working for me :(21:10
emxxangua, how do i ask bestbot?21:10
TandyUKedve: mount --bind /src/path/ /target/mount/point/21:10
emxnever mind. /topic says it21:11
SierraARIs there a way to get internet explorer running on ubuntu through wine?21:12
SierraARI havent been able to find any working instructions21:12
urgodfatherzykotick9: are there any known issues to kernel 3.7 on 12.10?21:13
zykotick9urgodfather: i'd have NO idea...21:14
cheekeethanks  zylotic9 and xangua. My last question is I have forgotten the easy to spell names like zykotick9 without spelling each letter21:14
emxxangua, don't redirect ppl to bestbot. it's far from usable.21:14
Jordan_USierraAR: Why do you want to run IE?21:14
urgodfatherzykotick9: how would i check? is there a dev room?21:14
zykotick9!tab | cheekee21:14
ubottucheekee: You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.21:14
MonkeyDusturgodfather  the latest used in 12.10 is 3.5, guess what you're using is not (yet) suported21:14
cheekeeubottu: thanks21:14
ubottuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)21:14
urgodfatherMonkeyDust: yeah, im running on a Poulsbo chip which sucks, but from what i have read, 3.7 has more bug fixes for the gma50021:15
zykotick9urgodfather: i'm gonna guess you'll find minimal support for 3rd party kernels.  best of luck.21:15
lurkerFor a few weeks now I have a problem with my ubuntu (mythbuntu, actually) box after it worked for two years: Every other time it tries to boot, it hangs displaying an error message "hd0,1 out of disk" or "failed to boot both default and fallback entries". Then, I usually switch it off and back on and it works as expected. How can I get it to boot reliably again?21:16
urgodfatherzykotick9: im aware of that, but i did see that 3.7 is avail on kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/21:17
MonkeyDusturgodfather  you're on your own, i guess21:18
ontimedid you want me for something nonkn4mer?21:18
Jordan_Ulurker: That error usually means that you have a buggy BIOS which can't properly handle large disks.21:19
Jordan_Ulurker: The usual work around for that is to make a small /boot/ partition near the beginning of the disk.21:19
nonkn4merontime: yeah, I looked through the sonicwall site, and appears all of their devices (TZ series for cost efficiency) support failover.  I'm sure other brands do, too.  just speaking to what I have experience with.  Wanted to wrap up that train of throught.21:19
pingpongpingis there a way to check fan speed ?21:20
pingpongpingon ubuntu21:20
ontimenonkn4mer: thank you. it is much appreciated.21:21
zykotick9!lm-sensors | pingpongping21:21
ubottupingpongping: To access CPU temperature sensors and detect fan speeds, install the lm-sensors package. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto for installation and usage instructions.21:21
lurkerJordan_U: I think we can exclude that from the list of possible reasons, since that same harddisk worked for over a year. The boot errors started some weeks ago.21:26
MrMagooHey, Can someone help me change back my grub timeout value to 1 (i am only able to boot to the livecd)21:27
lurkerThe box was disconnected from AC power before that started.21:27
MrMagooi know how to do it if the kernel is loaded but not from the live cd21:27
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Jordan_Ulurker: This type of bug tends to crop up late, your BIOS *can* read earlier parts of the disk, but not later ones (ones beyond its limit). That means that as long as all of the files that need to be read through the BIOS happen to be stored early in the disk, you won't notice any problems.21:29
BarkingFishsorry, just a little x-channel posting: Does anyone know if pulseaudio has been recently updated?  Mine has stopped capturing properly now, I have a constant "hum" in the background which is drowning out recording.21:29
Jordan_Ulurker: You can confirm that this is the problem by looking at the size that your BIOS reports the disk as, either in BIOS menus or by running "ls -l" from the grub shell and comparing it to the actual size.21:30
lurkerJordan_U: Thank you very much, I'll try that when I get to the box again.21:31
Jordan_Ulurker: You're welcome.21:31
moon`How stable are the compiz-extras update on ubuntu 12.10 running cinnamon?  I'd like to get the wobbly windows feature back cause it's pretty cool but not at the expense of having to deal with trying to fix a crash21:31
ikoniamoon`: well considering cinnamon isn't packaged by ubuntu, I'd say your at a good risk21:32
ikoniaas in a high risk21:32
emxdoes anyone have experience with rhythmbox and ipod? what happens if i have audiofiles only on my ipod? will they be deleted because there are no local ones (in rhythmbox)?21:32
ed_Hello everybody. Does anyone know how to switch from VESA drivers to Nouveau on an optimus based machine?21:33
LitieI am bot21:33
ikoniaed_: you change it in the xorg.conf21:33
LitieI art from source of Greedi humanoid21:33
ikoniaLitie: then please /part the channel, as speaking bots are not allowed21:33
moon`so if I wasn't using cinnamon it would be more stable?  Cause last time I hadn't started using cinnamon yet and installing the compiz-extras created one heck of a problem21:33
_MarcusI cant use the ls command, the permissions are strange. It wont let me chown it, and when I run "dir -l | grep "ls"" it shows this: -rwxr-xr-x 1  122 admin   39696 2011-02-23 09:24 ls21:33
Litiesyntax invalid speak21:33
_MarcusHow can I fix this?21:34
LitieI can not speak21:34
LitieI am a bot21:34
LitieI have no vocal cords21:34
deadmund_Marcus: The 122 is the ID of the owner of the file.  On your system there is no owner with ID 122.  TO chown or chmod the file use sudo.  You should change the owner to somebody that is actually on the system.  (you can change the owner using the username, not the number)21:35
_Marcusdeadmund: I did this as root.21:35
DeLorean731I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 and firefox and I'm trying to run a java game that seems to be failing to load the plugin (it just sits at a blank screen where the game would normally load). I have installed openjdk-7-jre and icedtea-7-plugin. Any suggestions?21:35
lurkerJordan_U: Oh, one thing. Why does a reboot work?21:36
deadmund_Marcus: also, you have a file named "ls" are you talking about the ls binary?21:36
_Marcusdeadmund: The binary21:36
Jordan_Ulurker: I'm honestly not sure about that one. It'd be interesting to compare the values from "ls -l" from multiple boots, seeing if it ever changes.21:36
zykotick9DeLorean731: perhaps the game doesn't work with openjava?21:36
deadmund_Marcus: I see, you can't use it...  Which is _very_ strange because it's 755 (anyone can execute it).  Is this on a live CD or some strange situation?21:37
_Marcusdeadmund: It's on my Ubuntu server installation21:37
mr-richHello, has anyone here migrated from Evolution 3.2.x to Thunderbird?21:37
deadmund_Marcus: sudo chmod 777 /bin/ls  does what?21:38
_Marcusdeadmund: Isn't that unsafe?21:38
deadmund_Marcus: yeah, we'll change it back. Is this server in use right now?21:38
_MarcusYes21:38
_MarcusIf I change it back fast it'll be fine21:39
deadmund_Marcus: forget it, the point is, if you chmod it or chown it as root, do you get an error?  Do the permissions (from dir -l) change?21:39
bkfitzAnyone here use JottaCloud21:39
bkfitzor have it integrated with Ubuntu21:39
SierraARJordan_U: Sorry for the delay. I'm doing some web dev and want to make sure the HTML/CSS setup works properly in IE21:40
guntbert_!anyone | bkfitz21:40
ubottubkfitz: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.21:40
_Marcusdeadmund: It gets this error: chown: changing ownership of `ls': Operation not permitted21:40
pingpongpingI Installed gnome sensor applet21:40
jozefinasiema czaku21:40
pingpongpingbut can't find it21:40
tmksiema21:40
deadmund_Marcus: even as root?21:40
_Marcusdeadmund: Yes21:40
tmkdziała dzódi21:40
zykotick9pingpongping: if you install lm-sensors, typing "sensors" in a terminal should show you the fan speed (if your hardware is supported)21:41
elena-IKI searched for banshee in software center, it shows up 3 times ( http://s8.postimage.org/bulutzu43/banshee.png ). bug?21:41
Jordan_USierraAR: http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page , reading that page you'll basically see that a VM running Windows is your only good option.21:41
jozefinasasasasa21:41
bkfitzQuestion: Does anyone here use JottaCloud, if so, do you have it integrated with Ubuntu21:41
lurkerJordan_U: I'll have to get my other keyboard, since my radio keyboard doesn't seem to work in grub rescue console.21:41
guntbert_!pl | jozefina21:41
ubottujozefina: Na tym kanale używamy tylko języka angielskiego. Możesz uzyskać pomoc w języku polskim na #ubuntu-pl.21:41
deadmund_Marcus: can you sudo chmod it 755 and then sudo chown it, then chmod it back to 755 ?21:41
xauth_Marcus: "Operation not permitted" is not "Permission denied"21:41
lurkerbye21:41
deadmundxauth: Your point being?21:42
deadmund_Marcus: I think that chattr is required here.21:42
xauthIt's not a permission issue.21:42
ed_Damn spammer, sigh21:42
ed_*spammers21:42
deadmund_Marcus: where is your ls binary?  Is it in the path variable?21:42
_Marcusdeadmund: Yes. I cant do /bin/ls either21:43
_Marcusdeadmund: I tried chmod: chmod: changing permissions of `ls': Operation not permitted21:43
emxis there a harrdisk / cpu / whatnot monitory in the default install?21:43
deadmund_Marcus: Is the filesystem mounted read-only? (look with mount)21:43
xauthPerhaps it on a strange kind of filesystem, or it has an immutable attribute or something.21:43
nonkn4meremx: there are a few different bins for each of those21:43
_Marcusdeadmund: How do I check?21:44
nonkn4mertop netop  and df -kh to name a few21:44
nonkn4mernettop*21:44
xauth_Marcus: cat /proc/mounts21:44
Jordan_U_Marcus: This is a very odd situation? Do you have any idea how it came about? If not, I'm tempted to say that you should re-install because who knows what else might be wrong that you just don't know about yet.21:44
Jordan_Us/situation?/situation./21:45
deadmund_Marcus: lsattr /bin/ls   ?21:45
elena-IKwhat determines where in the menu an application shows up? why is filelight (a disk usage viewer) in accessories and baobab (another disk usage viewer) in system?21:45
_MarcusJordan_U: I have no idea. I checked the server today and it just wouldn't let me do ls21:45
deadmund_Marcus: check if it's mounted read only be looking at the output of "mount"21:45
emxnonkn4mer, i had a look at a few but none of the seems to track harddisk traffic. are there any (except gkrellm)21:45
deadmund_Marcus: Jordan_U It is bizarre to say the least.21:46
nonkn4meremx: I believe iop does that.  let me check21:46
feeshonWhat is the best way to install Propietary Nvidia drivers in Ubutnu 1221:46
feeshon?21:46
zykotick9emx: that's iotop btw21:46
_Marcusdeadmund: I don't see anything about /bin in "mount"21:46
xpozedcan someone tell me where to install matlab2009b to be able to use the matlab package from the software center or it doesn't matter ? i am trying in /usr/share/matlab21:46
Don_why does LTSP on Edubuntu not work on full load21:47
nonkn4meremx: iostat will show you disk traffic21:47
xauth_Marcus: in that case, look for /21:47
deadmund_Marcus: /bin is probably part of your / partition, mount shows how partitions are mounted.  Can you pastebin the output of mount for me to look?  ( paste.ubuntu.com )21:47
_Marcusxauth: rootfs / rootfs rw 0 021:47
dkamCan someone tell me how I'd reinstall the kernel and grub?  I accidentally toasted my partition table and /boot.  I've fixed partition table but /boot didn't make it and is now empty.21:47
xauth_Marcus: Ah. Nothing special there.21:47
deadmund_Marcus: that's it, not mounted ro (readonly) it's mounted rw (read-write) which is normal.  Can you do lsattr /bin/ls   ?21:47
xauthhmm...21:47
urgodfatherzykotick9: so, i attempted a kernel upgrade but after reboot, i had "unmet packages" so i apt-get install -f and it forced me to revert back to 3.5. any clue as to what i might have done wrong. i fetched the 3 i386 .deb files, and installed linux-*.deb21:48
xpozedCan someone that is using matlab 2009b pm me pls21:48
xauth_Marcus: yes, try lsattr /bin/ls21:48
zykotick9urgodfather: sorry, no idea.  good luck.21:48
_Marcusdeadmund: xauth: s---ia-----------e- /bin/ls21:48
deadmundthat's a problem21:48
_MarcusWhy?21:48
deadmundmine is all blank, looking up what those letters mean now21:48
pingpongpingfunny how ubuntu work21:48
deadmundejnovak@th136-2:~> lsattr /bin/ls --------------- /bin/ls21:49
xauth_Marcus: guessing here: i = immutable.21:49
pingpongpingapp installed but never show where it is21:49
_Marcusdeadmund: Other files only have e21:49
urgodfatherzykotick9: do you know anyone you could recommend me to talk to?21:49
zykotick9urgodfather: i don't...21:49
nonkn4meremx: iostat has a tps column (transactions per second) that ~ equates to ipos.21:49
nonkn4meremx: iops*21:49
_MarcusHow do I fix this?21:49
deadmund_Marcus: using chattr   exactly how, I'm not sure.21:49
urgodfatherzykotick9: isnt there a dev room where i might be able to get some help?21:49
_Marcusps and netstat have this too, and I can't use them21:50
xanguaurgodfather: like you were told before you should be using the kernel provided by the ubuntu official repository21:50
zykotick9urgodfather: i believe so.  try alis "/msg ubottu alis" for details21:50
MontyMooseanyone got 2 secs to talk me through enabling MP3 support in FFMPEG, i've read a number of tutorials, but they keep telling me to install packages which no longer exist and I'm stuck - any one free? thanks.21:50
deadmund_Marcus: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chattr   using +i or -i   (description section)21:50
urgodfatherxangua: the kernel was from the ubuntu mainline repo21:50
MontyMooseUbuntu 12.4 LTS by the way (thanks)21:51
nonkn4meremx: ps -aux is another CLI utility to view activity21:51
emxnonkn4mer, zykotick9, thanks. what do i need to install to get those two??21:51
_Marcusdeadmund: Will this work? I don't want to break my system21:51
zykotick9nonkn4mer: it's "ps aux" with a - you get a warning/error at teh top21:51
nonkn4merzykotick9: hmm.  never erros for me, but works without the -, too21:51
deadmund_Marcus: never done it before.  But I feel very safe running sudo chattr -i /bin/ls   (it will make your ls and my ls more similar according to lsattr)21:51
_Marcusk21:52
nonkn4meremx: ps aux and top are built in21:52
zykotick9nonkn4mer: with the - check the top of the output...21:52
deadmund_Marcus: I'm trying to figure out what the e flag is21:52
urgodfatherzykotick9: for future reference, the dev room is #ubuntu-devel21:52
fdmDoes anyone know how can I  chage theme via console in Lubuntu? I need it to setup theme with uck21:52
nonkn4merzykotick9: heh.  well what do you know?  :)21:52
_Marcusdeadmund: Says this: s----a-----------e- /bin/ls21:52
emxwowowow. just looking at vmstat. on my old system i got around 1000 interrupts. what did i do wrong? :P21:52
_Marcusdeadmund: But still can't use it21:52
xauthdeadmund: e=extents. It's only low level storage information on the file.21:52
emxnonkn4mer, i meant iotop and iostat21:52
_Marcusxauth: What is the s?21:53
zykotick9emx: for iotop "sudo apt-get install iotop" fyi it needs sudo to run.  i don't know about iostat21:53
_Marcusxauth: And the a21:53
nonkn4meremx: apt-get install sysstat21:53
deadmunde = extents, he just said that21:53
deadmunda = append only21:54
emxerr... how do i open a second terminal? =)21:54
nonkn4merare you in CLI or GUI?21:54
nonkn4meremx: ^^21:54
Jordan_U_Marcus: Are you the only person that administers this server?21:54
guntbert_emx: middle click on the symbol in the launcher21:54
_MarcusJordan_U: No. My father actually does too.21:55
nonkn4merzykotick9: good call on vmstat.  I never use it but it's got good info in it, too21:55
zykotick9nonkn4mer: ;)  that wasn't me.  i'm unfamiliar with vmstat21:55
Jordan_U_Marcus: Have you asked him if he's messed with the permissions and attributes of ls or other files?21:55
_MarcusJordan_U: He doesn't know how21:56
emxnonkn4mer, gui. guntbert_, thanks21:56
fishcookeris there any official package inssider for ubuntu 10.0421:56
fishcooker?21:56
fishcookeri can't search from repo21:56
deadmundfinding a complete listing of the lsattr attributes is far too difficult21:56
_Marcusdeadmund: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lsattr s is for secure deletion21:56
guntbert_deadmund: man chattr :-)21:57
deadmund_Marcus: well, now that you turned immutable off, you should be able to chmod and chown again.  But you should still be able to execute (I see no evidence as to why you cannot)21:57
deadmundguntbert_: thanks21:57
RickZillaHow often is ubuntu LTS released?21:57
budmangso I have 10GB ram in my work station. I left it for 2 weeks running doing nothing while im gone.. all 10GB is in use and swap is completely full too... any way to avoid or refresh this with out rebooting? 12.10?21:57
fishcookerc21:57
Don_how do i get started21:57
ElixirVitaeHi!21:57
_Marcusdeadmund: I still can't.21:57
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xanguaRickZilla: every 4 releases/2 years21:58
deadmund_Marcus: not even /bin/ls   ?21:58
_Marcusdeadmund: no21:58
deadmundwhat errors do you get?21:58
ElixirVitaeIf I wanted to mount external HDD when ubuntu boots, should I add them through fstab?21:58
deadmundElixirVitae: yes21:58
RickZillaxangua: Thanks, what are the trade offs between a 2 year and a 6 month cycle upgrades?21:58
ElixirVitaeI want my torrent client to not download files again, it did so in two instances21:58
Jordan_U_Marcus: Then you really need to think about how you could have gottent to this state. Adding the immutable attribute to /bin/ls is bizzarre and does not happen accidentily. I guess it could have been an intruder, though breaking ls in this way is certainly not a great way to hide the fact that they've compromised your server. Possibly they tried to add a modified ls that hid their activities and failed miserably.21:58
_Marcusdeadmund: chmod: changing permissions of `ls': Operation not permitted21:58
zykotick9ElixirVitae: is it always connected?  you might run into issues if it isn't...21:59
ElixirVitaeIt is, mostly.21:59
deadmund_Marcus: I have no idea.21:59
ElixirVitaeBut bear in mind this is laptop and I leave HDD at home sometimes21:59
_MarcusJordan_U: I'll figure it out once it's fixed. Would reinstalling coreutils work?21:59
zykotick9ElixirVitae: "mostly" ;)  it's not a big deal, but whenever it isn't - boot is gonna fail, and you'll need to ^d (i think) to continue booting.21:59
Jordan_U_Marcus: If you can't figure out exactly how you got into this state, you really should re-install this server, and check your backups carefully to be sure they don't contain anything nefarious.22:00
ElixirVitaeIs there a way to tell torrent client that if HDD is not connected, don't try to download?22:01
ElixirVitaeI use qbittorrent btw.22:01
RickZillaElixirVitae: I would think that's specific to the torrent app, and not to ubuntu generally, though I could be wrong22:01
Jordan_U_Marcus: If it is an intrusion, you don't "fix" and intrusion bit by bit, you re-install. You can't know what they've changed or what back doors they've added. If it's not an intrusion then you've had a bizzarre and catastrophic failure of some kind and you still can't be sure what other than coreutils might be broken that you just don't know about yet. Unless you figure out exactly how this state came about, completely re-install ...22:02
Jordan_U... Ubuntu.22:02
ElixirVitaeThe thing is, if it does not find the previously established location, it assumes that file is not there22:02
Monotokohey all... does anyone know how I can assign a hotkey to the sidebar? I use synergy (keyboard+mouse sharing), and when I have the sidebar on autohide I can't reactive it because the mouse just goes to my other PC22:02
_MarcusJordan_U: Okay22:02
Ed_____Hello everybody, can anyone help me with a problem with some nouveau drivers?22:03
ElixirVitaeand it creates a folder under /media22:03
Ed_____Does anybody know how to replace load nouveau drivers instead of the Vesa ones?22:03
Ed_____I'm using Ubuntu 10.0422:03
* zykotick9 wonders if nouveau was in 10.04...22:04
Ed_____yeah, they were...22:04
Ed_____I've got a GT520M22:04
ElixirVitaeWould defining HDD partitions in fstab with UUID help at all?22:04
Ed_____and Bumblebee works fine22:04
deadmundElixirVitae: It is the preferred method.22:05
ElixirVitaeBut, whatever I do, if HDD were not connected during boot, torrent client will try to download.22:06
deadmundElixirVitae: Indeed it will22:06
ElixirVitaeSo, no solution at that part.22:06
ElixirVitae;_;22:06
deadmundElixirVitae: You could write a script that, on login, checks to see if that partition is mounted and, if it is, start the torrent client.22:06
ElixirVitaeCan I prevent the client to access /media though?22:06
deadmundElixirVitae: The client itself is much less programmable.  I think not.22:07
deadmundElixirVitae: You'd have to manually change the preference in the gui.22:07
ElixirVitaeThat sounds reasonable and well over limit of my powers~22:07
deadmundElixirVitae: I guess you could use rtorrent which is CLI based and has a config file.  You could, using the script, modify the config file before starting rtorrent22:07
deadmundElixirVitae: Depends how much time you wanna spend automating this process22:08
ElixirVitaeOr, better yet, I should get around to turning that old desktop into homeserver and connect HDD to it while I am at it.22:08
deadmundElixirVitae: That would probably be much easier.22:09
FrostbyteWhen I try to do a query to mysql from an .sh script, I get permission denied? What am I missing? (Already have a fucntional user with full permissions on the database, so wtf?)22:09
ElixirVitaeWoe is me as I have an overhaul of things that needs immediate attention...22:09
deadmundhaha22:09
ElixirVitaeAnywho, there doesn't seem an easily applicable solution, so it needs to be postponed.22:10
webfoxHello folks!22:10
ElixirVitaeMany thanks.22:10
ElixirVitaeHi, webfox!22:10
webfoxWhat is the channel name for Ubuntu Server support please ?22:10
_MarcusFrostbyte: Do you have permissions to run the sh file?22:10
ElixirVitae#ubuntu-server22:10
Frostbyte_Marcus : I'm currently testing it as root22:10
_Marcuswebfox: generally you can ask here, but it is #ubuntu-server22:11
webfoxoh, thank you ElixirVitae ! ;)22:11
Frostbyte_Marcus : it's sql that replies with permission denied I think22:11
Nate_RevUnetbootin won't work, any help?22:11
Frostbyte_Marcus : mysql.sh: 27: mysql.sh: : Permission denied22:11
ElixirVitaeDeadmund, are you at rizon as well?22:12
_MarcusFrostbyte: Try "chmod a+x mysql.sh" first22:12
deadmundElixirVitae: No :(  I don't know what rizon is.22:12
webfox_Marcus, well, to be honest it is a Ubuntu Server/Mac OS X/Oracle VM VirtualBox issue I am having which I've already being at all those channels and I still looking for an answer.22:12
Frostbyte_Marcus : still getting permission denied22:12
deadmund_Marcus: Frostbyte mysql has it's own set of users and permissions on the databases.  That is likely the issue, not the actual permissions on the file that holds the script.22:12
Frostbytetrue22:12
Nate_RevNobody has any USB booting advice..?22:13
bekkswebfox: And which is host and which is guest?22:13
Catbuntuhi22:13
ElixirVitaeNate_Rev, there is multisystem22:13
webfoxbekks, Mac OS X is the host and Ubuntu Server the client.22:13
Frostbytedeadmund : bullseye, if I execute the commands by myself, I have access to sql, but from the .sh I get permission denied22:13
Nate_Revmultisystem>22:14
_MarcusFrostbyte: Did you ask #mysql yet?22:14
Nate_Rev>22:14
Nate_Rev?22:14
bekksFrostbyte: then show us the .sh please, in a pastebin22:14
deadmundFrostbyte: ask in #mysql ?22:14
ElixirVitaeNate_Rev, http://liveusb.info/22:14
Frostbytewill do so, sec22:14
_MarcusFrostbyte: Don't post the mysql password though22:14
Frostbyte_Marcus I know :p22:15
Frostbytebekks , _Marcus : http://pastebin.com/NACvjK3V22:15
Nate_RevI can't read French. :/22:15
ElixirVitaeIt is english as well, Nate_Rev22:16
Frostbytebekks , _Marcus : it's line 14 that hits22:16
ElixirVitaeThough unetbootin is better if you want to have only one liveCD within.22:16
bekksFrostbyte: I can see a syntax error in line 1422:16
Nate_RevI have Unetbootin.22:17
_MarcusFrostbyte: There's no space after -p22:17
Nate_RevI made one, but it freezes when I try to use it.22:17
Frostbytebekks , _Marcus : that's cut from putty, nevermind it22:17
zul_hi all, could anyone help me in devise and twitter? I'm trying to authenticate in a rails test with a twitter account every time I get Twitter OAuth 401 Unauthorized, I follwed this railcasts: http://railscasts.com/episodes/235-omniauth-part-1?language=it&view=asciicast22:17
Frostbytesec22:18
_MarcusFrostbyte: I forget how the ` thing works, do you have to put another `, or a '?22:19
FrostbyteI think I figured something22:19
ElixirVitaeThere is lilo, Nate_Rev: http://www.linuxliveusb.com/22:19
Frostbyte_Marcus : put another `22:19
_MarcusFrostbyte: Then the string never ends22:19
ElixirVitaeBut unetbootin should be enough, might want to try again...22:19
Frostbyte_Marchs : that's actually cut from the terminal22:20
Frostbyte_Marcus * : that's actually cut from the terminal22:20
_MarcusFrostbyte: We need to see the rest22:20
Nate_RevI tried three times so far. Unetbootin seems to be a bust for me.22:21
zykotick9Nate_Rev: have to just tried to dd/cat the ubuntu iso to your USB?22:22
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Frostbyte_Marcus : http://pastebin.com/VhNPFX9k22:23
mr-richAny help migrating from Evolution 3.2.3 to Thunderbird?22:23
paco1hello masters!22:24
Nate_RevHow would I do that?22:24
paco1i would like to know if there is one way to download package (apt-get or aptitude), with dependencies, without install them....thanks!22:25
Frostbyte_Marcus : funny thing is that even if I ommit the -p , and insert the password manually, I still get permission denied22:26
Frostbytegonna ask in #mysql22:26
zykotick9paco1: see "man apt-get" looks like there is a --download-only option...22:26
emxsteam on ubuntu? the world of gaming is changing =) (sorry for the late cheer)22:26
_MarcusFrostbyte: Check database permissions. The user may not be able to access it.22:27
Frostbyte_Marcus : user has full permissions, I even tried with root user22:27
dr_willisemx:  now if only it had more games on it that were linux native ports... but its a start22:27
zul_who knows about ruby on rails? I have a question about devise and twtter authentication22:27
_MarcusFrostbyte: Well I have no idea22:27
emxdr_willis, sure, there is a long way to go. but if they manage to make it stable until halflife 3 is released then i'm happy =]22:29
dr_willisNate_Rev:  the pendrivelinux site has alternative tools and guides for installing to usb also22:29
Nate_Revok, it says it doesnt have pae22:31
elstudto migrate from evolution to thunderbird go to maketecheasier22:32
Nate_Revand thats why it wont install... I Have no idea what "pae" is22:32
dr_willisNate_Rev:  must be  older hardware.22:32
dr_willis!pae22:32
ubottuTo use more than ~3.2GB RAM on a 32bit system you can install the PAE-enabled kernel. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnablingPAE for more info22:32
nonkn4meremx: halflife 3... you need to switch to #vaporware :P22:32
dr_willisNate_Rev:  i think the lubuntu iso uses a nonpae kernel by default22:32
paco1zykotick9: ok, thanks! I read too fast the documentation22:32
Nate_RevI only have a 1gb22:32
dr_willishttp://www.webupd8.org/2012/11/how-to-install-ubuntu-1210-on-non-pae.html22:33
dr_willispae is a feature of the CPU22:33
dr_willis12.10 ubuntu defaults to a pae kernel22:33
emxnonkn4mer, nono. halflife 3 was never announced (unlike duke nukem). valve knows what it's doing.22:34
fission6can someone help me in a PM that has solid security insight, i think one of my linode boxes has been hacked22:34
Nate_Revso... am i just not able to install linux on this netbook?22:34
Nate_RevI tried Wubi at one point before and that wouldnt work either.22:34
hiloHi I chmod 777 .* my filesystem by accident and everything is 777 including my etc/sudoers file. I can't do anything at all that requires elevation. Is there a way to shutdown?22:35
dr_willisNate_Rev:   you Can install it.. if you have a non-pae kernel..22:35
dr_willisNate_Rev:  Lubuntu should install just fine22:35
trismwell, there is no non-pae kernel in the repo 12.10+ so you're going to be building alot of kernels22:36
goddardhow can I download a specific font for ubuntu that is on windows/22:36
Nate_RevI am using Lubuntu right now, on a Netbook I just bought, so its not old hardware. and it wont install off a USB, and it wont install through wubi22:36
dr_willisdoh   Further more, with 12.10, Xubuntu and Lubuntu no longer come with a non-PAE Linux Kernel, so by default, you can't install any Ubuntu 12.10 flavour on computers using CPUs that lack PAE support (such as Intel Pentium M).22:37
nonkn4merNate_Rev: external CD Rom time, it sounds like22:37
Nate_RevSo.. should I use an older disc image?22:38
dr_willishmm.  I  put 12.10 on my netbook. :)22:38
dr_willismust depend on the exact cpu i guess in the netbook22:38
dr_willisNate_Rev:  12.04 Lubuntu should work22:38
hiloIs there a way to safely power off an ubuntu install which the whole filesystem has been chmod 777 including the /etc/sudoers file?22:38
darkbyteYeah, it does. If it does not support physical address extension, it isn't happening.22:39
dr_willishilo:  go to console. press power button - i think kicks it into shutdown ..22:39
dr_willisbut if everything has been chmoded in weird ways..   its hard to tell wht may or may not work22:40
hilodr_willis, yeah I hit the "." before the * accidentally and it recursed my whole filesystem22:41
hilodr_willis, powerbutton doesn't seem to do anything at all.22:41
hds-hi there. i have an ubuntu 8.04 and wonder if i could just update to 12.10 with a dist-upgrade or what i should maybe be aware of22:41
dr_willishilo:  well if you press and HOLD the power button.. that will force the pc to power off. ;(22:41
jribhilo: try ctrl-alt-del in a tty maybe?  If not, you may have raise elephants...22:41
dr_willishds-:  that big of a upgrade may be problematic. I would be sure to have backups made.. and be prepared for a clean install.22:42
Kaleo688hi guys, please, i'm whit a problem: W: Erro GPG: http://ppa.launchpad.net precise Release: As assinaturas a seguir não puderam ser verificadas devido à chave pública não estar disponível: NO_PUBKEY 7E492AAE24DF7CC4.22:42
dr_willishds-:  not to mention it may take some time for it to upgrade. May be faster to clean install22:42
Kaleo688anybody can help me?22:42
paco1one other question: if i'm on 10.04 and i would like to download packages with dependendies for 12.04, is it possible?22:42
hds-dr_willis: if i updated gradually?22:42
jribhilo: also do you have a dm like lightdm or gdm running by chance?22:42
Monotokohow long is 10.04 supported?22:42
jribpaco1: you should upgrade to 12.04 if you want to use 12.04 software, that's my advice22:42
hds-dr_willis: clean install is a little tricky as i have no monitor for this device22:42
hiloctrl alt del at the logon screen worked22:43
hilothanks all22:43
dr_willishds-:  you go from one relase to the next. then once you hit a LTS release you an go LTS to LTS.22:43
dr_willishds-:  4 years of upgrades may be trickier.22:43
Monotokoanyone?22:43
dr_willis!10.0422:44
ubottuUbuntu 10.04 LTS (Lucid Lynx) was the twelfth release of Ubuntu. Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1004 - Supported until April 2013 (Desktop), April 2015 (Server)22:44
Monotokookay... my laptop has "issues" with 12.0422:44
Kaleo688anyone know how i get a public key to install packages?22:44
Monotokoas in the mouse freezes every 30 seconds and it locks up to 100% CPU usage22:44
jribKaleo688: packages from *where*?22:44
hds-dr_willis: so i upgrade from hardy to jaunty to lucid to maverick with gradual dist-upgrades and then jump to quantal?22:45
jribhds-: skip jaunty skip maverick...22:45
fission6can someone wiht a soul please help me something is messed up obn my linux server, i need someone keen on security to help me or guide me22:45
darkbyteMonotoko, I had that problem, was the cord on my mouse...intermitent short.22:45
dr_willishds-:  thats the core of it  upgrade to you get to a LTS release. then jump LTS to LTS.22:45
dr_willisGood luck. ;)22:45
dr_willisfission6:  better to just state the problem and what you did.22:46
jribhds-: hardy (LTS) -> lucid (LTS) -> quantal (LTS)22:46
Monotokodarkbyte, it isn't the cord... it does it with the mousepad... external mice... everything, my keyboard also seizes22:46
hds-dr_willis: thx22:46
Monotokoit just rockets to 100%22:46
hilojrib, I don't think so. It's a fairly basic server install22:46
jribhilo: k.  Looks like you've managed to reboot anyway22:46
Kaleo688A support driver video to amd - ati.22:47
hiloOn to live usb to back up configs and then reformat22:47
hiloIs there a way to pull a driver to make the reinstall easier?22:47
jribhilo: make sure you fix the permissions on the files backup of course22:47
hiloThe server has an LSI 9750-8i HDD RAID controller and I can't remember all the details of the driver other than compiling it was a pain22:48
fission6dr_willis: getting linode alerts that my box has been compromised and all the ticket says after that is HoneyPotTransport22:48
fission6i am looking for guidance of any sort dr_willis22:48
goddardcan some one tell me how to install a font?22:48
goddardttf file22:48
jrib!font | goddard22:49
ubottugoddard: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". For the official ubuntu font, see: http://font.ubuntu.com/22:49
dr_willisgoddard:  i copy mine to my users .fonts directory ;)22:49
qwdI have a lot of noise (sound) when watching videos on VLC but not on Totem. I tried deleting the vlc folder in ~/.config but that didn't solve it. Any ideas?22:49
zhiattagscan anyone here teach me how to run .exe files on my ubuntu 12.04?22:49
Kaleo688error in the launchpad key - NO_PUBKEY 7E492AAE24DF7CC4 - ??22:49
emxis it possible to encrypt the home folder?22:49
jrib!wine | zhiattags22:49
gordonjcpzhiattags: .exe files are for DOS, not Linux22:49
ubottuzhiattags: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu22:49
MontyMooseAnyone free to help me with avconv? Whatever format I try and convert to, I just get "Default encoder for format %FORMAT% is probably disabled. Please choose an encoder manually."22:49
goddarddr_willis: ok thanks22:49
dr_williszhiattags:  wine /path/to/whatever.exe  is  the old skool way22:49
hilojrib, could you provide a little guidance? I have no idea where to even start when it comes to pulling drivers from one system and putting them on another22:50
zhiattagsjrib: can we convert that to linux executable?22:50
jribzhiattags: but yes you should try to use native apps whenever possible.  Your life will be much happier22:50
MontyMooseeven though tif I do -codecs I get MP3 in the list22:50
jribzhiattags: I do not understand what your last question is asking.22:50
jribhilo: you shouldn't have to worry about any drivers22:50
fission6anyone have a recommendation for a more security focused channel22:50
dr_willisyou dont jus5t 'convert' executables from one OS to another. ;)22:50
jribhilo: what drivers are you thinking about?22:50
dr_willisfission6:  #ubuntu-server perhaps22:50
jribfission6: why don't you ask linode support for some guidance?  They even have a channel (on oftc I think)22:50
alien2050zhiattags: you cannot, you have to recompile from the source code and adjust for linux code22:51
zhiattagsdr_willis: i will try that, thanks22:51
hilojrib, LSI 9750-8i22:51
dr_willisim not even suer what 'linode' is. ;)22:51
jribdr_willis: vps provider22:51
zhiattagsjrib: will try dr_willis suggestion22:51
jribhilo: I'm not familiar with that22:51
Kaleo688jrib, can you help me? is that key: NO_PUBKEY 7E492AAE24DF7CC4 - launchpad22:52
studentaaaaa22:52
jribKaleo688: you have to answer my question for me to help you: where are you installing this software from?  A ppa perhaps?22:52
hilo jrib it's a hard drive controller22:52
jribhilo: I understand, but I don't know what you need to do.  Did you have to do something special before, at install time?22:52
studentdo u know how to22:53
studentboot wondows xp22:53
student?22:53
Kaleo688yes - from the atualzation system of ubuntu - in the reload happened this!22:53
jribKaleo688: what ppa?22:53
studentthis ubuntu22:53
studentis shit22:54
k1lstudent: where is this a ubuntu support issue?22:54
k1l!language | student22:54
ubottustudent: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.22:54
studentok22:54
studentpeople do u want to help me22:54
student?22:54
k1l!ask | student22:55
ubottustudent: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience22:55
jribstudent: ask your detailed question ON ONE LINE, only then can we help you22:55
studenthow to boot windows xp on ubunu22:55
student?22:55
studentubuntu22:55
hilojrib, no but after installing, it couldn't mount anything at first. I had to compile and install the driver22:55
alien2050student: virtualbox22:55
hilojrib, it took days on the phone with LSI support22:55
k1lstudent: describe what you mean. its not getting clear what you want22:56
studenti dont speak well english because i am from serbia22:56
darkbytestudent, check it out. Download virtualbox from ubuntu repos.22:57
Kaleo688LP-PPA-oibaf-graphics-drivers (noveau display - X.OrgX server)22:57
darkbyteThen make a new virtual image for you win box.22:57
darkbyteThen boot it up and enjoy.22:57
Kaleo688i cant install it.22:57
studentok thx22:57
jribhilo: sorry, I don't know enough to help you22:57
darkbyteIf you have any questions please pm me.22:57
darkbyteOr ask in the room.22:57
hilojrib, thanks for the effort22:58
studentand how to enter a bios on ubuntu22:58
darkbyteElaborate on "enter a bios"22:58
jribKaleo688: https://launchpad.net/~oibaf/+archive/graphics-drivers has instructions on adding the key for the ppa.22:58
hiloDoes anyone have any experience installing the drivers for a 3ware/LSI RAID controller?22:58
k1lstudent: that is no ubuntu support issue. that is you hardware issue22:58
alien2050student: bios doesn't have anything to do with operating system, it is started before the OS comes into play22:58
elstudstudent go to spatry s cuo=p of linux explains thoroughly22:58
k1lstudent: look into the manual22:58
darkbyteYour bios is in your machine, not ubuntu. You access it from hitting a button at first boot.22:58
Kaleo688there i will can?22:58
studenti know22:59
studentbut i press del22:59
jribKaleo688: yes, read the "adding this ppa to your system" section on the ppa's site22:59
k1lstudent: ##hardware22:59
Kaleo688thank you jrib!22:59
darkbytePm me student22:59
darkbyteIm not a dick.22:59
k1lstudent: that is no ubuntu issue if you want to access bios or install windows22:59
studentwhat is pm23:00
alien2050student: virtualbox sorta has a "bios" in the sense that it starts a really quick menu with options23:00
angelpossumdick23:00
darkbytePrivate message.23:00
studentok23:00
k1lalien2050: he doestn want to install vb23:00
k1ldoenst serbia got a loco team with own channel?23:00
studenti dont know23:00
alien2050k1l: are u sure about that?23:00
studentkil23:00
studentyes23:01
k1lalien2050: read what he said earlier23:01
alien2050student: what precisely are u trying to achieve?23:01
hds-how do i dist-upgrade from shell? change all sources from one version to the next in the sources.list and then apt-get update/upgrade?23:01
Kaleo688i have an AMD A8 VISIO - this is the only driver to optimize my process?23:01
k1lhds-: no23:01
studentmy new windows ubuntu23:01
jrib!upgrade | hds-23:01
ubottuhds-: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade23:01
k1lhds-: use do-release-upgrade23:01
darkbyteOh he wants ubuntu gone.23:01
optimusprimemtest23:01
k1lstudent: join channel ##hardware for your problem23:02
hds-k1l:that link only tells me how to do it with a gui app. but do-relase-upgrade sounds good23:02
hiloHow do I mound an LVM partition in a Live environment to recover data23:02
darkbyteThey will never answer his questions in #hardware lol23:02
studentwhere is that23:02
alien2050i see23:02
wNhilo: mount /dev/volgroup/logvol /mountpoint23:02
Kaleo688jrib?23:02
peugii am thinking about getting a SSD, did anyone noticed getting their desktop faster with one?23:02
nonkn4merhds-: apt-get dist-upgrade23:02
wNhilo: you may need to run pvscan, vgscan, lvscan, vgchange -ay23:03
jribKaleo688: yes?23:03
hds-nonkn4mer: k1l just told me not to do that23:03
alien2050peugi: it boots really fast, other than that... depends on which one you get23:03
zykotick9peugi: lol - best upgrade i've ever seen ;)23:03
k1lhds-: why?23:03
jribhds-, nonkn4mer: apt-get dist-upgrade is incorrect23:03
hilowN, I don't understand LVM at all or what it is. Can you elaborate?23:03
peugiI am thinking getting the OCZ one for $13023:03
Kaleo688i have an AMD A8 VISION 64BIT, is that the only driver to optimize?23:03
k1lnonkn4mer: no. he wants a release upgrade23:03
wNhilo: you want me to teach you about lvm, or about those commands?23:03
MontyMooseis mp3 lame not allowed anymore or something… it used to be easier than this to encode mp3s I'm sure!23:03
nonkn4merjrib: please elaborate23:03
studentdoes anuone speak serbian23:04
zykotick9!dist-upgrade | nonkn4mer23:04
ubottunonkn4mer: A dist-upgrade will install new dependencies for packages already installed and may remove packages if they are no longer needed. This will not bring you to a new release of Ubuntu, see !upgrade if that is your intention.23:04
k1lhds-: if you want a release-upgrade like from 12.04 to 12.10 its do-release-upgrade23:04
Frostbyte_Marcus : I think I found a workaround23:04
hilowN, Just the barebones to get a specific partition mounted23:04
studentspeak serbian ??23:04
hilowN, once I backup some stuff I will be reformatting and not using LVM23:04
nonkn4merzykotick9: ahh.  makes sense23:04
zykotick9nonkn4mer: if you manually changed sources.list, dist-upgrade would work (but that's not the Ubuntu way of doing things)23:04
MontyMooseso irritating… my new server is perfect apart from the ability to encode mp3s (needed for the web server HTML5 audio). Now I'm messing around with endless codecs filling the machine up with all sorts of rubbish I don't need. Very annoying.23:05
roby87Hello everyone23:05
k1lnonkn4mer: dist-upgrade is not a upgrade to the new release version23:05
hds-k1l: i actuallly have 8.04 but yeah. seemed to me that do-release-upgrade was a gui tool23:05
wNhilo: you need to scan the lvm stack. run # pvscan; vgscan; lvscan; vgchange -ay23:05
wNhilo: that will activate the stack23:05
wNhilo: then you can mount with # mount /dev/volgroupname/logvolname /mountpoint23:05
alien2050MontyMoose: Did you try lame? works like a charm23:05
studentdarbyte23:05
MontyMooseI'm trying to use lame through avconv,  but I can't get it to work at all23:05
student?23:05
studentdarkbyte23:06
student?23:06
Kaleo688jrib, i have an AMD A8 VISION 64 BIT, is that the one drive to supported?23:06
hilowN, installing lvm2 package23:06
jribKaleo688: I don't know23:06
MontyMooseI wanted to use ffmpeg, but now it tells me they've given up on it - so I installed avconv like it said23:06
alien2050not sure about avconv...23:06
Kaleo688anyone know?23:06
k1lstudent: last call: its not a ubuntu support issue if you want to install windows on a machine. so please join the channel ##hardware23:06
wNhilo: i gotta bounce. jump into #lvm ify ou need mroe lvm help23:06
nonkn4merzykotick9: so would you dist-upgrade to make sure you have the latest dependancies, etc, before doing a do-release?  or waste of time?23:06
Kaleo688common guys!!!23:06
MontyMoosewell I have no wish to use avconv - ffmpeg was working fine on my old server, but now 12.4 LTS refuses to play ball23:07
hilowN, thanks23:07
k1lhds-: update-manager is the gui tool for that23:07
zykotick9nonkn4mer: doubt it would make much difference, but sure ;)23:07
MontyMooseI worry I've broken it all now :-s23:07
guilhermekfemy grub screen is all black, does anybody knows that?23:07
studenti was join23:07
alien2050guilhermekfe: Could be many reasons...23:07
k1lnonkn4mer: dist-upgrade comes in when there is a new kernel, for example23:07
guilhermekfealien2050: I've just installed Ubuntu 12.10 on my box23:07
studentheyy23:07
studentand23:08
alien2050guilhermekfe: Try to boot from live cd and redo a clean grub-install, should work23:08
nonkn4merzykotick9: i'm pretty anal about autoremove/autoclean so there's no unnecessary packages floating around...  will probably add that to my OCD update procedures23:08
k1lstudent: ask in that channel23:08
MontyMooseAnyone want to suggest what I may have missed in installing lame? Ubuntu 12.04.1 LT23:08
roby87WHOIS r0by8723:08
emxwhat is the easiest way to synchronise two directories on different physical drives?23:08
guilhermekfealien2050: I ran boot-repair23:08
deadmundroby87: You forgot the slash23:08
deadmundemx: rsync23:08
alien2050MontyMoose: what is your input file type, and what is the output needed23:08
zykotick9emx: rsync is one option, unison is another23:08
roby87thanks, sorry, i'm newbie!! :D23:09
mr-richelstud: I tried going out to that site. It doesn't cover evolution 3.2.x which stores e-mail in maildir format ...23:09
k1lemx: unison23:09
MontyMooseI need to be able to make audio files for HTML5 audio, so say convert WMA into MP3 and OGG23:09
k1lemx: which is 2 way rsync actually23:09
alien2050guilhermekfe: you should try grub-install23:09
* angelpossum says to roby87 23:09
angelpossumhow new23:09
nonkn4merk1l: thanks for the info, btw23:09
emxdeadmund, zykotick9, k1l: do they include all files (hidden files, special files..)?23:09
deadmundemx: rysnc has flags to include them23:10
MontyMoosein the good old days i used to run ffmpeg -i OLDFILE -f mp3 NEWFILE23:10
MontyMooseand it worked perfectly23:10
guilhermekfealien2050: Oh ok, thank you, gonna try it =)23:10
MontyMoosenot so on the new server23:10
alien2050guilhermekfe: np, just boot a live cd, mount your linus partition to let's say /1 then do a grub-install --root-directory=/1 /dev/sdX23:11
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MontyMoosewhen I do -codecs on ffmpeg I get: D.A.L. mp3                  MP3 (MPEG audio layer 3) (decoders: mp3 mp3float )23:12
alien2050MontyMoose: and what changed, I remember using ffmpeg also some time ago...23:12
alien2050MontyMoose: Should be pretty solid23:12
MontyMooseI upgraded to a new web server from 8 to 12 I think23:12
Jaredcheedacan I get some super easy quick assistance :D23:12
MontyMooseso I got the mp3 codec and installed ffmpeg and it didn't work23:12
MontyMoosesaid the codec didn't exist.23:12
alien2050MontyMoose: which app is saying "codec doesn't exist"?23:13
k1lJaredcheeda: ask away23:13
MontyMoosewell sorry - not that it doesn't exist - it does exist, but it says it will only decode not encode23:13
webfoxCould someone help me correct config a keyboard please ?23:13
Jaredcheedajust need help installing 2 things on a VM of ubuntu23:13
MontyMooseI do avvonv -codecs to see the installed codecs23:13
alien2050I dunno with avconv, standard ffmpeg or lame doesn't work ?23:14
k1lJaredcheeda: i still dont know how i could help you. just ask your question23:14
MontyMoosedoesn't seem so23:14
zykotick9k1l: is your crystal-ball not working for Jaredcheeda ;)23:14
Jaredcheedathey're not the easy double-click to install types. they're the "lets load up terminal" types23:14
alien2050lame --cbr -b 320 -V2 file.wma   doesn't work ?23:14
midolaruMaybe u need som propriety codecs23:14
k1lzykotick9: no, i broke it yesterday :(23:15
somsipMontyMoose: try libmp3lame not mp323:15
MontyMoosewith what ffmpeg or avconv?23:15
somsipMontyMoose: ffmpeg23:15
Jaredcheedaanyone willing to remote in to show me how it's done23:15
MontyMoosewhich isn't currently installed. Should I reinstall it with apt-get, or should I compile it?23:15
alien2050no just plain lame, you want to output to mp3 ?23:15
hiloWhat is the command to create a complete tar backup file of my root filesystem while booted to a live Ubuntu session? I have mounted my root to "/mnt/root"23:16
k1l!ask | Jaredcheeda23:16
ubottuJaredcheeda: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience23:16
somsipMontyMoose: ffmpeg -formats migth help you too23:16
MontyMooseok23:16
MontyMooseshall I reinstall ffmpeg again then…23:16
MontyMooseand if so is it better to use apt-get or compile it myself?23:16
studentwhere is my computer on windows ubuntu23:16
student?23:16
gordonjcpstudent: wherever you left it...23:16
somsipMontyMoose: I use to for video conversion, and it works okay for me. apt-get is the recommended approach23:17
MontyMooseok23:17
studentok23:17
alien2050sudo apt-get autoremove --purge ffmpeg && sudo apt-get install --reinstall ffmpeg23:17
studentwhere is start on windows ubuntu23:17
k1lstudent: stop that please23:17
MontyMoosedone23:17
alien2050MontyMoose:  its what I would do.... check the dependencies, maybe something's screwed up....23:17
studentplease tell me i dont know23:17
gordonjcpstudent: start what?23:17
studenthow to explaine23:18
MontyMooseright oh - I'm now looking through the formats..23:18
MontyMooseI assume lame should be there?23:18
alien2050apt-cache search lame | grep enc23:18
gordonjcpstudent: you mean for starting programs?  Hit the "flag" key between CTRL and ALT and start typing the name of what you want23:19
alien2050in 11.10 it is just "lame"23:19
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alien2050in 12.04 unless they removed it, should be the same23:19
alien2050student: There is no such thing as Windows Ubuntu, it's Windows or Ubuntu, not both...23:20
MontyMooseok well there's no mention of lame on the formats list - but there is "mp3             MPEG audio layer 3"23:20
MontyMooselet me try and convert a wav and see what happens...23:20
zykotick9alien2050: well, there is wubi ;)23:20
drRocktopusanyone available for a few quick questions: ubuntu on a lenovo ideaCentre?23:21
alien2050:)23:21
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gordonjcp!ask | drRocktopus23:21
ubottudrRocktopus: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience23:21
alien2050MontyMoose: Try "sudo apt-get install lame" what happens?23:21
drRocktopusok thanks :)23:22
drRocktopusI am getting a 1962 error code : no bootable system23:22
MontyMooseok done that - shall I check the formats list again?23:22
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MontyMooseI'll try the following: ffmpeg -i test.wav -f mp3 test.mp323:22
Guest77636ciao23:22
Guest77636list23:22
DarkPTwww.linuxportugal.comunidades.net23:22
alien2050MontyMoose:  maybe? not sure I understand what you mean, you'll be bypassing avconv from now on.... ;)23:23
drRocktopuslooking to figure out where I am going wrong in my installation23:23
webfoxCould someone help me to set a keyboard and internet please ?23:23
MontyMooseyeah - never wanted to use it anyway… all my PHP scripts use FFMPEG and I don't want to change them. I only went down the avconv route, cos I couldn't get ffmpeg to work and it told me to!23:23
bekkswebfox: How about asking in #ubuntu ?23:23
alien2050webfox: details would be nice23:23
nonkn4merdrRocktopus: what version of ubuntu are you trying to install?  are you installing from CD or USB stick?23:23
bekkswebfox: ;)23:23
zykotick9MontyMoose: just an fyi, but ogg will give higher audio quality with smaller size then MP3...23:24
bekkswebfox needs to have a DNS server configured on his 12.04 server, and his keyboard does not produce the / key23:24
MontyMooseI need both to be honest - it needs to be HTML5 audio you see, and i.e. won't support ogg23:24
drRocktopusI am getting a 1962 error code : no bootable system --  looking to figure out where I am going wrong in my installation  -- using desktop version 12 -- installing from a CD -- I have tried the efi fixes listed on the ubuntu support site but can't get it to see the OD23:24
drRocktopusOS23:24
webfoxalien2050, I am facing a mistaken keyboard on a Ubuntu Server Vm I brought from Ubuntu to Mac.23:24
MontyMooseI would love to tell all my customers that IE is not supported, but I don't think I can sadly!23:25
maria_hla23:25
alien2050MontyMoose: Should be straightforward with ffmpeg.... why doesn't it work from php ?23:25
nonkn4merdrRocktopus: so it boots off the CD, and initiates the installation setup?23:25
maria_alguien de españa23:25
MontyMooseit does now -23:25
midolaruU sure u can't play ogg through html5???23:25
MontyMooseyes you can - but IE doesn't support it23:25
a5m0i have one computer that's on 3.7.0-4 and one that's on 3.5.0-19 and they both claim they're up to date, any  ideas what's up?23:25
MontyMooseif you only include ogg, IE won't play23:25
webfoxmidolaru, depend on the browser23:26
MontyMoosewith video it's even worse, you need three copies of every file for it to be truly cross-browser23:26
alien2050ha!23:26
MontyMooseand that's assuming the IE people are at least on version 923:26
drRocktopusyes... it boots fine from the CD23:26
MontyMoosewhich most of them aren't!23:26
webfoxalien2050, did you get it?23:26
midolaru....standards lol23:26
nonkn4merdrRocktopus: then start with the basics.  no USB devices or expansion cards installed?23:27
alien2050webfox: not really, I still don't understand what you're asking......23:27
MontyMoosethe web was much better when it was just text… *mumble mumble* why does everyone want video.23:27
drRocktopusnope... just the HD and the DVD drive23:27
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SonikkuAmericaMontyMoose: who knows?23:27
alien2050MontyMoose: Not only video, interactivity!!! :)23:27
nonkn4merdrRocktopus: have you successfully installed any linux build on that machine?23:27
alien2050VR and augmented are right around the corner23:27
drRocktopusno... i'm pretty sure its a problem in the bootloader23:27
MontyMooseI know … the buggers. That's why my web server has have 6 CPUs and 8GB of memory!23:27
webfoxalien2050, I have moved a virtual machine from a Ubuntu host to a Mac host and the keyboard layout is not working.23:28
drRocktopusthe installer works fine23:28
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alien2050webfox: VM -> what OS23:28
alien2050?23:28
webfoxalien2050, VM -> Mac OS, but I am interested in to switch the keyboard from the Client with is Ubuntu Server.23:29
drRocktopusis there a grub fixing tool?23:29
nonkn4merdrRocktopus: yes, but you're saying it's not booting at all?23:29
drRocktopustrue... I can only boot off the CD and not of the HDD23:30
webfoxalien2050, did you get it now?23:30
alien2050webfox: so let me get this straight, you moved a MacOS guest vm to a Mac OS host which was previously on a ubuntu host... ?23:30
HondUSAGreetings, Whats up everybody?23:30
webfoxalien2050, no23:30
alien2050keyboard is working but not the layout right23:31
alien2050?23:31
webfoxalien2050, I moved a Ubuntu Server client from a Ubuntu Client host to a Mac OS X host.23:31
ShawnRiskMy internet doesn't seem to be connecting on Ubuntu but is connecting on my mac, any ways I can fix this?23:31
alien2050try "setxkbmap us" just for kicks on the VM23:31
alien2050is the layout back to normal?23:31
webfoxalien2050, yes, the keyboard is with wrong layout. I guess. I can't access certain keys.23:32
nonkn4merdrRocktopus: I wouldd recommend trying to install a different build.  maybe 32 bit23:32
guilhermekfealien2050: Hey mate, I used grub-install to get the black screen fixed, but didn't work =/23:32
drRocktopusthat was my next plan... the machine is 64bit for sure... but I will be trying the 32 next23:32
alien2050guilhermekfe:  what command did you type23:32
drRocktopuswhy would the 64 not work? just not supported maybe?23:32
guilhermekfealien2050:  sudo grub-install /dev/sda23:32
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arossDOTmeI am helping a friend. I have given him a flash drive, full install style with adjustments so it does not wear out the flash so quickly. He has mucked up networking. I am a networking newbie. How do I completely reset everything network related? I am looking the the doc on the wiki23:32
nonkn4merdrRocktopus: that's 1 of a dozen different possibilities23:33
alien2050guilhermekfe: you didn't get my last message before disconnect, did you ?23:33
webfoxalien2050, what?23:33
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drRocktopusshould the installer be able to partition the drive for my machine?23:33
drRocktopusI mean... properly23:33
guilhermekfealien2050: I think I didn't23:33
nonkn4meryes.  when it asks what volume you want to install on23:33
webfoxalien2050, are you druged?23:33
nonkn4merdrRocktopus: you can reformat a drive/partition from the install CD23:33
alien2050webfox: rotfl, why would I be23:33
webfoxCould someone help me to fix a keyboard layout here pleeese?23:34
drRocktopusI have done that several times... but I was reading some info on issues with uefi on newer machines23:34
webfoxalien2050, because you are nothing saying nothing with makes sense man...23:34
HondUSAQuestion: Is it possible to create an account for this room?23:34
webfoxthis auto-complete keyboard fuck is irritating me!23:34
Jordan_U!language | webfox23:34
ubottuwebfox: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.23:34
IdleOne!language | webfox23:34
alien2050webfox: dude seriously....23:34
webfoxJesus, how difficult is to het some help here!23:35
arossDOTmewebfox: whats the prompem. and carm down23:35
arossDOTmewebfox: be pathent23:35
alien2050webfox: did you try the command I sent?23:35
nonkn4mer!patience | webfox23:35
ubottuwebfox: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/23:35
Jordan_Uguilhermekfe: Were you running grub-install from a LiveCD/USB? Did it give any error message?23:35
webfoxalien2050, what command?23:35
webfoxalien2050, what is that for?23:35
guilhermekfeJordan_U: No, No.23:35
webfoxalien2050, give some kicks on the vm? What is it supposed to mean?23:36
alien2050guilhermekfe: last command I said to do was, mount your linux partition to let's say /1, then do a grub-install --root-directory=/1 /dev/sdX23:36
alien2050guilhermekfe: where X is your drive id (if you've got only one hard disk, most likely /dev/sda)23:36
gordonjcp!ask | webfox23:36
ubottuwebfox: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience23:36
webfoxarossDOTme, I need to set a new layout to my keyboard.23:36
guilhermekfealien2050: from the live cd?23:37
arossDOTmewebfox: I was deciding to help you or to do dishwasher. we are not you slaves.23:37
drRocktopusthank you for your help nonkn4mer!  I will test out the 32 and let it build the drive how it wants :)23:37
alien2050webfox: sigh.... ok type , at the terminal prompt the following: setxkbmap us23:37
nonkn4merdrRocktopus: sounds good23:37
webfoxarossDOTme, then decide fast because I cannot wait for your fuckinf dish washing !23:37
nonkn4mercan we get a boot now?23:38
alien2050it will reset your keyboard to US default, is it still mixed up (the keys on the keyboard) ?23:38
nonkn4merer, kick rather23:38
webfoxalien2050, how do check which keyboard is it running?23:38
eastrmy keyboard preference keeps changing once in a while why might that be?23:38
arossDOTmewebfox: i was just typing an anwser but I give up stuff you. dam numtly23:39
alien2050webfox: doesn't matter, it'll reset it if you're able to run the cmd23:39
webfoxalien2050, perhaps I don't need to reset it.23:39
webfoxalien2050, I would like to give it a solid step not some kicks on the air.23:40
gordonjcp!attitude | webfox23:40
ubottuwebfox: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines23:40
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gordonjcpwebfox: I was going to suggest some stuff but frankly you're being a bit of a dick23:40
webfoxHow do I check the keyboard my machine is currently using ?23:41
IdleOnegordonjcp: please keep it family friendly23:41
gordonjcpwebfox: do you mean the keyboard layout?23:41
alien2050webfox: you should make an effort here23:41
webfoxgordonjcp, yes23:41
gordonjcpIdleOne: oh come on, pack it in with the "family friendly" nonsense - and tell me just *what* you objected to there23:41
gordonjcpwebfox: right23:41
alien2050webfox: your problem need to be explained in more details.......23:42
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arossDOTme...now How to reset networking? ie start from fresh.23:42
webfoxgordonjcp, I have a machine with I installed Ubuntu server at this host Mac OS just to have the default keyboard.23:42
EntropyWorksis apt-mirror the best way to create a local repository still?23:43
alien2050arossDOTme: depends if you're using dhcp or static23:43
arossDOTmedhcp23:43
alien2050EntropyWorks: yep, I think so23:43
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EntropyWorksalien2050: thx23:44
zykotick9EntropyWorks: i've never used apt-mirror, but if you don't want to add additional packages - i find apt-cacher or apt-cacher-ng easy to implement/use.23:44
ShawnRiskMy wireless internet doesn't seem to be connecting on Ubuntu but is connecting on my mac, any ways I can fix this?23:45
nonkn4merShawnRisk: is ubuntu a vm on the mac?  or its own system?23:45
alien2050arossDOTme:  sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart23:45
webfoxHow do I check with keyboard layout my system is currently using please ?23:45
webfox*which23:45
arossDOTmealien2050: I think it needs way more than that23:45
alien2050arossDOTme: depends what you're trying to do23:46
arossDOTmealien2050: a friend mucked it up. eg installed wicd23:46
alien2050ah! the infamous wicd23:46
arossDOTmealien2050: clean it up and start fresh23:46
EntropyWorkszykotick9: i have a requirement to only have machines using our own repositories.   so can't really use apt-cacher-ng23:46
arossDOTmeDon't know completly what he did23:46
arossDOTmealien2050:23:46
ShawnRisknonkn4mer: the ubuntu system is its own laptop.23:47
webfoxHow do I check which keyboard layout my system is currently using please ?23:47
zykotick9EntropyWorks: i see.  there is a offline mode in one, or both, of tehm?23:47
nonkn4merShawnRisk: this is going to sound dumb, but when I first installed on a dell latitude (coming from a mac background) I forgot that there is a switch on the side to turn on the wifi card.  have you checked for such a switch on your machine?23:47
drRocktopusnonk4mer: Boots in 32bit :)23:47
alien2050sudo apt-get autoremove --purge PROG && sudo apt-get install --reinstall PROG would be a good place to start (PROG = network-manager) then only the first part, remove wicd23:47
drRocktopusmamazing!23:47
alien2050afk23:47
nonkn4merdrRocktopus: good to hear :)23:47
popitoHi all23:48
drRocktopusnow to set everything up.... gonna be a long night heh23:48
drRocktopusthanks again23:48
arossDOTmealien2050: and I deleted some conf files.23:48
EntropyWorkszykotick9: ok I'll checking that out. if I can get away with the offline mode23:48
nonkn4merdrRocktopus: no problem, sir23:48
arossDOTmealien2050: ok reinstall net man23:48
nonkn4meryou might want to check for a bios update on that machine.  if it really is 64 bit capable... might also just need another disto.  maybe something like centOS23:49
juan_:)23:49
popito:)23:50
ShawnRisknonkn4mer: where is that key, I don't see one, but I know wireless is on because it shows the connections and shows my connection and the wireless is searching.23:50
eidelmaimhi people23:51
emxunwrapping the passphrase gives me an error (-5). why?23:52
nonkn4merShawnRisk: depending on the hardware, it may only be able to see 802.11b/g networks.  If you're broadcasting 802.11n it won't see it23:52
popitoHi eidelmain23:52
ShawnRisknonkn4mer: I understand but this was working before, and I might need to restart to get this working which is odd.23:52
webfoxThe thong here is the keyboard is not working to try anything which involves slashes for example.23:52
zykotick9nonkn4mer: i certainly don't know, but i'd guess centos does not support uefi.  cent/rhel uses older, well tested, packages.23:52
webfox*thing23:52
guikfealien2050: me again23:52
guikfealien2050: Now I`m getting some errors23:53
guikfealien2050: with grub-install23:53
Phosphate  /join #amahi23:53
guikfealien2050: http://pastebin.com/fHHnucAY23:54
nonkn4merzykotick9: good point.  Not know what distro he's trying to install, or the validity of the media it's burned on, etc, just suggested a different distro.  For uefi there's always fedora which i think supports it23:54
eidelmaimok so i have a question.... i am leaving microfail and moving to ubuntu and i cant seem to get the installer to function correctly... im trying to install off a usb drive... now most likley this is my error for not setting up the usb drive correctly but i just wanna ask.... i have the iso saved on the usb drive... i would have to make the drive bootable first though correct ?23:54
nonkn4merzykotick9: just sucks to be forced into using 32 bit if the processor supports 64, ya know?23:54
zykotick9nonkn4mer: agreed.  uefi = fail ;)23:55
webfoxCould someone help me please ?23:55
RickZillawebfox: Just ask a question23:55
webfoxRickZilla, how do I verify which keyboard it it currently being used at my machine?23:56
RickZillaStart typing and see if something shows up on the screen? I'm not real sure what you're asking.23:57
aetcorehey how do i use a PPA as a backport? for example im on 12.10 and i want to use this guys repo https://launchpad.net/~s-lagui/+archive/ppa but he doesnt support my release (im not sure what the correct terminology is for this)23:57
aetcorecan i tell apt that it has to use older release material?23:58
zykotick9aetcore: backports are the other direction - new packages on old releases.  i doubt you can do what you want...23:58
webfoxCould someone help me please ?23:58
ztguhey23:58
eidelmaimwhat is the better freeware to create a ubuntu USB bootable drive ?23:59
popitohey23:59
aetcorezykotick9: ok thanks, i will compile from source23:59
ztgucan someone help me choosing a new laptop for linux23:59
popitoyou speak french ?23:59
ztguI was thinking about a laptop with Nvidia card so my brother can game23:59
ztguhttp://www.howtogeek.com/124685/how-to-make-nvidias-optimus-work-on-linux/23:59
zykotick9aetcore: are you familiar with checkinstall?  if not, see "/msg ubottu checkinstall" for details23:59
ztguBut I have heard of someone with problems with this thing23:59

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