[00:00] <escott> SierraAR_Web, if you hover over the exclamation mark does it say anything
[00:00] <escott> SierraAR_Web, that could be your swap but it should say its swap
[00:00] <SierraAR_Web> escott: Nothing when I hover. But when I go to information, it says unable to detect file system
[00:01] <d4rkh4nd8> Having a issue connecting my ipod touch 4. I get these mesg (Location is already mounted)  and   Unhandled Lockdown error (-17)
[00:01] <escott> SierraAR_Web, my guess is that was meant to be swap but got broken
[00:02] <escott> SierraAR_Web, you might see if there is an entry in the main systems fstab for it, and if not mkswap it, and add it to the fstab
[00:02] <escott> SierraAR_Web, but clearly not crucial since you havent noticed
[00:02] <SierraAR_Web> escott: I have no idea what fstab would be
[00:02] <SierraAR_Web> Havent noticed any issues with anything in regards to system errors or performance
[00:03] <blackshirt> !fstab
[00:03] <SierraAR_Web> Is it normal that the partition I just created has 66MB used?
[00:03] <d4rkh4nd8> Anyone know how to connect ipod touch to pc using ubuntu ?
[00:04] <SierraAR_Web> blackshirt: thanks
[00:04] <thekkid> d4rkh4nd8: to do what?
[00:04] <SierraAR_Web> I'm going to bounce back to using the HDD, brb
[00:13] <Wolowitz> pt br ?
[00:13] <jrib> !pt | Wolowitz
[00:17] <mrpostman> can anyone help me?
[00:17] <jrib> !ask | mrpostman
[00:19] <mrpostman> I cant seem to get ubuntu to fine my parallel port
[00:23] <alouwa>  #evilzone
[00:24] <SierraAR> Yay it worked
[00:26] <d4rkh4nd8> Anyone able to help me mount my ipod touch PLEASE !
[00:29] <gogeta> bo
[00:30] <SierraAR> Thanks escott
[00:45] <Dakeech> Hello, I am experiencing a bug with my audio when I play Youtube videos. It randomly mutes and unmutes by itself. Any help would be appreciated.
[00:51] <MK``> Where's the force kill program in 11.10?
[00:51] <jrib> MK``: use kill, pkill, or xkill
[00:51] <lockster> Dakeech: Hello, I'm not sure what could cause that, but you could try this: http://mylinuxnotebook.blogspot.com.ar/2008/11/ubuntu-810-flash-sound-problem.html
[00:53] <isoman2kx> how do I run FSCK from a ubuntu cd?
[00:53] <isoman2kx> keeps asking me for a password
[00:53] <isoman2kx> lol
[00:54] <xangua> lockster: doubt a post from 3 years ago is helpful :P
[00:54] <xangua> 4 years ago :P
[00:55] <isoman2kx> hmm?>
[00:56] <Lachezar> Hey all... My Ubuntu Server LTS upgrade went rather well, but I broke /etc/sudoers trying to migrate it.
[00:56] <isoman2kx> how to run FSCK in ubuntu CD?
[00:57] <Lachezar> I can not start the recovery console from GRUB: it just boots the default configuration, and does not allow me to select boot options: How do I run the recovery console, or add parameters to the kernel with this GRUB?
[00:57] <Lachezar> isoman2kx: Boot the CD, open a console and execute 'fsck /dev/whatever'
[00:58] <local> python KeyError??? http://bpaste.net/show/sb4kloHDkzZvf6jsro15/             https://github.com/jmunsch/markov_manifestos/blob/master/markov/markovgen.py
[01:00] <insecticide> having trouble installing i tunes on ubuntu 10.04 using wine any Ideas ?
[01:02] <Lachezar> Argh... NVM. Holding SHIFT made it pop the boot menu, but I needed a few tries (since I only have KVM).
[01:02] <jrib> Lachezar: that's strange that recovery mode would not run recovery mode.  Did you check what the grub line actually looks like?  ANyway, you can try ... oh ok
[01:02] <[Saint]> Does anyone have a suggestion as to what I may be able to do to debug why my machine refuses to wake from hibernate in 12.10 64 bit, but will with 12.10 32 bit?
[01:02] <MK``> jrib thank you
[01:02] <[Saint]> Running a 32 bit distro for the sake of hibernation really isn't an option.
[01:03] <xyzone> [Saint], is it a desktop?
[01:03] <[Saint]> xyzone: correct.
[01:04] <xyzone> [Saint], many are just buggy
[01:04] <xyzone> with suspend
[01:04] <[Saint]> I managed to get suspend to play nice, but hibernation just refuses to do its thing.
[01:04] <[Saint]> previous, without some poking, suspend failed also.
[01:05] <[Saint]> *previously
[01:05] <xyzone> I never hibernate so can't help, sorry
[01:06] <[Saint]> Fair enough, I realize it's disabled, likely for a good reason...but, it'd be nice to have.
[01:06] <[Saint]> things that don't work when they theoretically should annoy me.
[01:06] <[Saint]> (and lots of others, I imagine)
[01:06] <xyzone> I guess hibernation sucks that bad
[01:06] <Lachezar> jrib: I wasn't able to start the recovery mode, since it booted and did not allow me to choose. It's *VERY* hard to hold SHIFT over a KVM. You have to press it in a specific time after the RAID controller boots :-/
[01:08] <jrib> Lachezar: you can edit the grub line to include init=/bin/bash or boot a live cd.  I don't know if either of these things is possible for you.  Obviously, for the first you still need to hold shift...
[01:08] <[Saint]> The thing that bug me is that, as far as I'm aware at least, 32 bit vs 64 bit arch shouldn't make a lick of difference to hibernation.
[01:08] <Lachezar> jrib: Hah :) Try doing that with /etc/sudoers broken :)
[01:08] <jrib> Lachezar: ah, I meant at the grub screen, you can edit the line there
[01:09] <krabador> hi people, i need help to install nvidia-173 on ubuntu 12.10
[01:09] <xyzone> 64 bit is different
[01:09] <Lachezar> jrib: I wasn't able to open the GRUB screen. It would just skip... But holding SHIFT at the right time did the job: I was able to run in recovery mode.
[01:09] <jrib> Lachezar: k, cool
[01:10] <Lachezar> jrib: Some 'smart' guy thought adding '#includedir' to /etc/sudoers would be very fine... Really! I just 'de-commented' it... Hence I broke sudo... Funny... NOT!
[01:11] <jrib> Lachezar: you should always use visudo :)
[01:11] <Lachezar> All is well when it ends well...
[01:11] <Lachezar> jrib: You're right... It's just that these things tend to come up *AFTER* one has broken it.
[01:12] <ForSpareParts> What program would you guys recommend for downloading youtube videos under Ubuntu? I tried youtube-dl, but it doesn't seem to work.
[01:13] <jrib> ForSpareParts: what ubuntu version?  youtube-dl works fine here on 12.10
[01:13] <Tham> a
[01:18] <almoxarife> ForSpareParts: look at 'minitube'
[01:19] <BassoPT> Anyone gay herà.
[01:19] <BassoPT> Here?
[01:19] <ar9> how can i add the mist icons to ubuntu?
[01:19] <ar9> or the whatever the fedora defualt blue icons are
[01:20] <d4rkh4nd8> need help mounting ipod please
[01:20] <almoxarife> !ipod
[01:20] <BassoPT> I need some booty,...male booty
[01:21] <TheLordOfTime> BassoPT, that's not on topic here, please stop.  If you have an Ubuntu support question, feel free to ask it, otherwise please stop.
[01:22] <BassoPT> Ubuntu means gay action in my language
[01:22] <linuxieus> What is your language?
[01:22] <linuxieus> lol
[01:23] <BassoPT> Stratamaru, I'm from Gana, but I live in Spain
[01:23] <SierraAR> Ubuntu means Ubuntu in my language
[01:23] <TheLordOfTime> !offtopic
[01:23] <ar9> how can install fedora blue icon pack in ubuntu?
[01:24] <BassoPT> So if I go to Ubuntu-off tipoff I can askmfor man on man sex?
[01:25] <linuxieus> lol... behave BassoPT ;)
[01:25]  * [Saint] is somewhat disturbed by the sheer amount of people that seem to use IRC as a substitute for a search engine...
[01:26] <Crshman> anyone know why the bootdegraded=true kernel param would be ignored?
[01:26] <Crshman> I have it set in my grub boot options but when I fire up the machine it catches a degraded array and drops into busy box
[01:26] <Lachezar> [Saint]: Well... Search engines are increasingly 'ad-engines', and it requires substantial dzhu-tsu to actually grt something sensible out :(
[01:26] <Crshman> even though I'm telling the server to continue the boot process
[01:27] <[Saint]> Lachezar: that's really no excuse, though.
[01:29] <Lachezar> [Saint]: It is in my book :-/
[01:29] <[Saint]> Is your book called "How to waste the time of others"? :P
[01:29] <SierraAR> Lachezar, I usually have no trouble finding useful information on google
[01:30] <Lachezar> SierraAR: Tc :-/ I usually end up giving up on finding -it- on google around page 3 or 4.
[01:31] <Lachezar> [Saint], SierraAR: don't get me wrong... I still do Google before I ask, but I end up asking someone instead in 50-50.
[01:32] <[Saint]> Lachezar: Yeah, don't get me wrong either...If you're at least attempting to find the information yourself first, then you're not the target group I was referring to.
[01:33] <Lachezar> [Saint]: Point taken.
[01:33] <Crshman> I have the the bootdegraded=true kernel param set in my grub boot options but when I fire up the machine it catches a degraded array and drops into busy box, any ideas why?
[01:33] <thekkid> Does anyone have a problem with chrome and fullscreen youtube sometimes?
[01:34] <almoxarife> thekkid: what problem?
[01:34] <xyzone> thekkid, all the time
[01:34] <Lachezar> thekkid: Are you using the HTML-5 version of YouTube? I've had lots of problems... Had to switch to the flash-version.
[01:34] <thekkid> Lachezar: no it's flash
[01:34] <thekkid> Lachezar: and it works some times and sometimes it doesn't
[01:34] <xyzone> flash is terrible
[01:34] <xyzone> too bad html5 isn't much better
[01:34] <thekkid> xyzone: agreed
[01:34] <[Saint]> If it's 64 bit, then, yeah...I have problems with stuttering fullscreen flash sometimes.
[01:35] <thekkid> [Saint]: any fix?
[01:35] <[Saint]> flash needs to hurry up and die.
[01:35] <xyzone> flash is a movie monster, it will never die
[01:35] <Lachezar> thekkid: Well... I end up opening a console and killing the plugin-container (when using FF though).
[01:35] <SierraAR> I've not come across any issues using full screen youtube on ubuntu 12.04 64bit
[01:35] <[Saint]> thekkid: switching to a 32 bit distro...so, yeah, in most cases, not really much of an option.
[01:35] <SierraAR> This is using firefox
[01:36] <thekkid> okay
[01:36] <xyzone> why can't html5 implement vdpau?
[01:36] <[Saint]> for <insert_reason_here> 32 bit flash is a *lot* better than 64 bit.
[01:36] <thekkid> development time
[01:36] <[Saint]> But, yeah, agreed. The sooner HTML5 takes off, the better.
[01:36] <xyzone> recently the 64 bit version is about as good as the 32 bit, that is, not very
[01:37] <[Saint]> xyzone: it's still not /quite/ there, but, recently 64 bit flash has made some huge improvements.
[01:38] <xyzone> [Saint], too bad the development is dead, just maintenance at this point
[01:39] <gogeta> wake up
[01:39] <[Saint]> It's a sad case of something that could've been *soooooo* good, but it's crushed by the monster that is flash and sites that simply won't stop using it.
[01:39] <[Saint]> I'd still like to believe that one day it will be.
[01:39] <xyzone> crushed by adobe
[01:40] <gogeta> [Saint]: that becouse webm suck compared to h264 flash
[01:40] <[Saint]> Not so much Adobe as the developers that refuse to stop using it in their applications/sites/whatever.
[01:40] <xyzone> well I mean flash was crushed by adobe
[01:40] <[Saint]> Ahhhh, yes, indeed.
[01:42] <thekkid> 5 years it'll be gone
[01:42] <thekkid> mainly thanks to apple and google inadvertently with mobile
[01:42] <xyzone> replaced by what
[01:42] <gogeta> thekkid: they said that 5 years ago
[01:42] <xyzone> html5 still sucks
[01:42] <[Saint]> that said that 5 years ago...
[01:42] <[Saint]> haha, snap.
[01:43] <thekkid> I didn't say replaced
[01:43] <thekkid> I said gone
[01:43] <gogeta> the big hold back on h=html5 video is they can insert ads like flash
[01:43] <xyzone> needs a replacement
[01:43] <gogeta> cant
[01:44] <xyzone> they can with javascript
[01:44] <thekkid> Easily avoidable
[01:44] <xyzone> same with flash
[01:44] <gogeta> and not inside the vid
[01:45] <strat1227> hello all
[01:45] <xyzone> but you're right that's the reason html5 isn't still used on youtube instead of flash
[01:45] <gogeta> youtube has html 5
[01:45] <xyzone> how ironic that chromebooks can't watch youtube videos with ads
[01:45] <xyzone> yes, but it's only optional, and ad videos don't work
[01:45] <gogeta> you need to turn it on
[01:46] <xyzone> I tested it myself the other day at best buy
[01:46] <strat1227> Is this the proper place to ask some basic support questions for ubuntu 12.10?
[01:46] <escott> strat1227, yes
[01:46] <heathjs> so... webgl works in firefox and google-chrome... not chromium... but the desktop doesn't have support for opengl...
[01:46] <heathjs> halp!
[01:47] <strat1227> thanks escott
[01:47] <strat1227> I just installed on an HP Pavilion dv6000, and the "Dash Home" crashes my computer for some reason
[01:48] <klync> strat1227: what happens when it "crashes"?
[01:48] <gogeta> xyzone: yea gogle thought webm was the second coming of god but nedding twice the cpu and twice the size killed that idea and everyone stuck with h264
[01:48] <strat1227> When I open it it's really really glitchy, and if I leave it open for more than 3 seconds or so everything locks up entirely and shuts down
[01:48] <escott> heathjs, what is the output of "glxinfo | grep -i renderer" and glxinfo | grep -i vendor
[01:48] <strat1227> "glitchy" means the display has lines all across it, font is unreadable, images don't display, etc
[01:48] <gogeta> xyzone: html 5 can do that
[01:48] <strat1227> this is right out of the box
[01:48] <xyzone> webm was only done to press the h264 patent holders
[01:48] <xyzone> gogeta, can do what
[01:49] <heathjs> escott: OpenGL renderer string: GeForce 210/PCIe/SSE2
[01:49] <gogeta> xyzone: can do h265 video
[01:49] <gogeta> h264
[01:49] <xyzone> gogeta, yeah but only on chrome
[01:49]  * Dr_willis waits for h266
[01:49] <heathjs> escott: two graphics cards
[01:49] <escott> heathjs, and the vendor
[01:50] <heathjs> nvidia
[01:50] <heathjs> both of them
[01:50] <strat1227> as such it's quite difficult to launch anything that's not already pinned to the launcher
[01:50] <gogeta> xyzone: well not only chrome heh as long as you have something like vlc with the broswer plugins it will work on anythung
[01:50] <heathjs> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1406288/
[01:50] <gogeta> xyzone: or god help us flash
[01:50] <escott> heathjs, the output of glxinfo | grep -i vendor said nvidia and not nouveau or mesa?
[01:50] <xyzone> gogeta, plugins? kind of defeats the purpose
[01:50] <heathjs> correct
[01:50] <heathjs> i installed the proprietary drivers earlier
[01:51] <escott> heathjs, ok. then im not sure why it would not be working "in the desktop" in what way is it not working
[01:51] <heathjs> not transparency...
[01:51] <gogeta> xyzone: naa its all a plugin its just weather they package it or not
[01:52] <xyzone> gogeta, html5 is not a plugin
[01:52] <klync> strat1227: after you login the usual way, try to get a text console by doing ctrl-alt-f1 ... login there and do `grep EE /var/log/X.org.0.log`
[01:52] <gogeta> xyzone: no but h264 is
[01:52] <heathjs> systemsettings -> desktop effects -> "Desktop effects are not available on this system due to the following technical issues: Required X extensions (XComposite and XDamage) are not available."
[01:52] <xyzone> gogeta, no it's not when it's in chrome
[01:53] <gogeta> xyzone: chromes intergrated ffmpeg codecs
[01:53] <xyzone> gogeta, which they pay royalties for
[01:53] <escott> heathjs, thats a strange error message. can you apt-get install libxdamage1 libxcomposite1 and verify those are installed
[01:54] <escott> heathjs, you can also try grep -i damage /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:55] <Crshman> how do I get the current console resolution?
[01:55] <gogeta> Crshman: xrander?
[01:55] <Crshman> no gui
[01:55] <strat1227_> hello sorry, i tried screenshotting the issue and it crashed again
[01:55] <Crshman> gogeta: let me try it
[01:55] <strat1227_> if anyone replied please repeat it
[01:55] <heathjs> escott: [    50.446] (II) Initializing built-in extension DAMAGE
[01:56] <Luke> when I plug in my external USB drive, it mounts as read only. how can I fix that?
[01:56] <gogeta> Crshman: probly ot there if no gui
[01:56] <Crshman> ah yeah, that command doesn't exist and it looks like it's part of the x11 suite
[01:56] <heathjs> installing libxdamage and libxcomposite caused something to be installed... it said they were both at the latest versions already
[01:57] <heathjs> a new nvidia-experimental-310-310.14 dkms file was installed
[01:57] <heathjs> guess i might restart now...
[01:57] <gogeta> Crshman: lol i know how to set it but not simply view it
[01:57] <Crshman> same
[01:58] <Crshman> i know what I need to add to my grub config but I want to know what it's currently set at haha
[01:58] <gogeta> Crshman: sudo hwinfo --framebuffer
[01:58] <gogeta> Crshman: it probly will be using the largest one avable
[01:59] <Dr_willis> Luke,  what filesystem is on the hard drive?
[01:59] <Luke> Dr_willis: ext4
[02:00] <Dr_willis> Luke,  then you need to use the normal chown/chmod commands to set the proper ownership and permissions
[02:00] <Crshman> gogeta: sweet thanks! that worked!
[02:01] <Luke> Dr_willis: they're set fine on the drive fs. I think it's the mountpoint that's being created as root that's the problem
[02:01] <gausie> Hi all. I ran "startx -- /usr/bin/Xdmx :1 +xinerama -display :0.0 -display localhost:10.0 -norender -noglxproxy" over SSH on my 12.10 machine. What I was trying to do didn't work. I restarted my computer and now it won't get past the log-in screen - it just bounces me back. What do I do?
[02:01] <Luke> Dr_willis: I'm not sure how that mount point is being created or why, when I take a user action, it's created as root
[02:01] <escott> Luke, try fscking the disk. it could be failing into ro mode. also check dmesg to see if that mentions an errors with that drive
[02:02] <Luke> escott: tried that - the disc is fine
[02:02] <Dr_willis> Luke,   you could make a fstab entry for it. and mount it by hand. or chown.chmod the mount point AFTER its mounted. that would set the permssions for the 'root' of the filesystem
[02:02] <gausie> (this is running it as per these instructions: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOzRCBGDVaE from a client that is still working - it's the server which isn't working)
[02:02] <Luke> Dr_willis: right I don't want to mess with system files. I just want it to work straight away
[02:02] <Dr_willis> Luke,  as far as i know the permissions of the mountpoint BEFOR its mounted does not matter.  the permissions of the mountpoint after its mounted are defined by the 'root' of the filesystems permissions
[02:02] <Luke> Dr_willis: when I plug a USB key in it works fine
[02:03] <escott> Luke, what are the permissions on the mountpoint
[02:03] <Dr_willis> Luke,  and what FS is on the key?
[02:03] <Luke> the mointpoint is created on the fly when I plug it in
[02:03] <Luke> Dr_willis: probably fat32
[02:03] <Dr_willis> Luke,  thats why then..
[02:03] <Dr_willis> fat/ntfs re handled differntly
[02:03] <Luke> escott: permissions on the mountpoint are root 700
[02:03] <escott> Luke, that would do it. it should be root 777
[02:04] <dopiwan-> hello, I'm having trouble with video drivers.  I was running vesa ones okay and tried to install nvidia-current and now everytime X tries to load my system crashes.
[02:04] <Luke> escott: I didn't make the mountpoint. it's created on the fly
[02:04] <Luke> escott: that's the problem
[02:04] <dopiwan-> I've uninstalled the nvidia drivers and replaced the Driver "vesa" in my 10-monitor.conf and now when X loads it says "vesa: Ignoring device with a bound kernel driver"
[02:04] <escott> Luke, is this 12.10 or 12.04
[02:04] <Luke> 12.10
[02:05] <escott> Luke, and what is the mountpoint
[02:05] <Luke> escott: /media/username/external
[02:05] <escott> Luke, but it is the username of the logged in user
[02:06] <Luke> yes
[02:06] <escott> Luke, but /media/username/external is root:root 700. thats weird
[02:06] <Luke> escott: yeah
[02:07] <Luke> escott: and when I unmount, those dirs go away
[02:07] <Luke> they're created dynamically
[02:07] <Luke> media obviously still exists though
[02:07] <escott> Dr_willis, i've never been clear on this point of permissions. The root inode of external has a permission, and the inode /media/username/external will have a permission, and they get bound together in some way when mounted. is it possible that one could be wrong but the other ok?
[02:08] <Dr_willis> escott,  as far as i know.seen the permissiosn of /media/whattever   BEFOR the fs is mounted does not matter - its 'overridden' by the permissions of the fs being mounted
[02:08] <escott> Dr_willis, so the root inode of the external replaces the inode of the mountpoint
[02:08] <Dr_willis> this is just what ive 'seen' never really seen it documented
[02:08] <Dr_willis> escott,  yep. Makes sence to me.
[02:09] <escott> Luke, ^^^ that would indicate that the root inode of the external is incorrect and a sudo chown/chmod should be a permanent fix
[02:09] <Luke> it's created dynamically
[02:09] <Luke> it doesn't exist until it's mounted
[02:09] <Dr_willis> if i want a user to have FULL access to a exernal ext2/3/4 - i mount  it. then chown the mountpoint. :)
[02:09] <Dr_willis> Change it AFTER its mounted the first time.. and it should stay that way Luke
[02:09] <Dr_willis> the actual mountpoint wont matter
[02:10] <Luke> it doesn't make sense from a usability standpoint that if I plug in a drive, I have to run commands to write to it....
[02:10] <escott> Luke, there are two inodes involved. one for the mountpoint /media/username/external the other for the root of the external (if the external was bootable the inode that would be / when it was booted)
[02:10] <blackshirt> wew
[02:10] <Luke> Dr_willis: I'll try that
[02:10] <Dr_willis> Luke,  again. You do it ONCE.. and then afterwards it will rember the owner/permissions
[02:10] <Dr_willis> Untill you move it to a differnt pc. ;)
[02:10] <Luke> got it
[02:10] <Luke> i'll try that
[02:10] <escott> Luke, for an external root:root 777 makes good sense
[02:11] <Dr_willis> it would be the same if you were mounting it via fstab, or by hand.
[02:12] <Luke> Dr_willis: the problem is with the username dir, not the base mount point itself: /media/username/extenral... in this case username has incorrect permissions
[02:12] <Luke> Dr_willis: and that's created by the system when I mount the drive by plugging it in
[02:12] <Luke> Dr_willis: so it has nothing to do with the drive
[02:12] <escott> Luke, /media/username is root:root 700?
[02:13] <escott> Luke, that would make it impossible for you to even see /media/username/external
[02:13] <Dr_willis> as far as i know.. THe permisisons of the mountpoint do NOT matter befor the drive is mounted.
[02:13] <Luke> Dr_willis: in other words, it's not the root of the drive that's incorrect, it's the parent dir to the mountpoint that's incorrect
[02:13] <d4gg3r> hey guys, I am using ps2pdf to convert a eps graph to a pdf one. But it puts it in a page with the graph at its end. can anybody help me make it produce an output with just the graph?
[02:13] <Luke> Dr_willis: yeah it's the folder that is created to /contain/ the moint point that's incorrect
[02:13] <Dr_willis>  would seem odd that other disks are getting mounted to /media/BILLGATES correctly
[02:13] <Dr_willis> and one is not.
[02:14] <Dr_willis> sounds like a bug if the permissions of the fs are propagateing upward. ;)
[02:14] <escott> d4gg3r, "graph at its end" what did you expect?
[02:14] <Luke> Dr_willis: my USB keys are not mounted there.... wierd
[02:14] <Luke> weird*
[02:14] <d4gg3r> escott,  I expected a pdf just like the eps file from gnuplot output
[02:14] <Dr_willis>  the whole /media/ vs /media/user/ is a new feature in 12.10 i think. Ive never really noticed any issues with it.. other then the confusion its caused
[02:14] <d4gg3r> escott,  just the graph with no extra margins
[02:15] <escott> d4gg3r, and how is what you are getting different from that
[02:15] <Dr_willis> could be more NTFS vs Ext  differances inhow the system works
[02:15] <d4gg3r> escott,  just running ps2pdf 1.eps
[02:16] <escott> d4gg3r, the "e" in eps means that it has a bounding box. pdf has a standard page dimension (set by your locale preference usually A4 or letter). there will be a margin
[02:16] <Luke> Dr_willis: yeah it seems to be incorrectly setting up permissions on the user dir unfortunately
[02:16] <gausie> can noone help me with my log in issue?
[02:17] <escott> gausie, what is the issue
[02:17] <Luke> Dr_willis: drwxr-x---+  3 root root   -- that's the actual permissions it creates the user dir with
[02:17] <Luke> which seems useless
[02:17] <Dr_willis> Luke,  im not on a ubuntu box so i cant double check mine.
[02:17] <gausie> escott: thanks for responding. I've posted the question to askubuntu, so better to read the detail there http://askubuntu.com/questions/224816/tried-to-use-xdmx-and-now-i-cant-log-in
[02:17] <gausie> escott: I'm asking on here too because its quite urgent
[02:17] <escott> Luke, not sure who should own that, but it certainly shouldnt be 755
[02:18] <Dr_willis> gausie,  for starters try deleteing the .Xauthority file
[02:18] <Luke> Dr_willis: actually you know what... it's working now. you were right about chowning the mointpoint
[02:18] <Luke> Dr_willis: the user dir's permissions are OK i think
[02:18] <Dr_willis> Luke,  if its owned by the user.. and the permisisons get 'applied' to the parrents.. then that would make sence. ;)
[02:18] <gausie> Dr_willis: I don't have one (did updatedb and a locate and found nothing)
[02:18] <Luke> Dr_willis: yeah it's totally fixed now. thanks
[02:19] <Dr_willis> gausie,  look in the users home dir? try making a new user. see if affects them..  see if the guest user has issues..
[02:19] <Dr_willis> gausie,  its also possible some other files in the users home are owned by root by mistake.
[02:19] <gausie> Dr_willis: I can get into the guest user! So what do I do to get me back into mine? Thanks so far!
[02:20] <Dr_willis> gausie,  test with making a new user. or with the problem user. ive just made a OLDHOME dir in their home and moved everything into it. so i had a clean 'home'  and tested if logging in worked.
[02:20] <doctorpepper> hi guys.
[02:20] <Dr_willis> if a new/clean/home worked.. that points to a user setting/file being the issue.
[02:21] <qualia> why does Urxvt daemon (urxvtd -q -o -f) startup with <root> AND THEN <user> two times ?
[02:21] <escott> gausie, try "find $HOME -uid 0
[02:21] <escott> gausie, see if that prints anything out
[02:21] <Dr_willis> escott,  ;) i was just googling to find that command.. ;P
[02:21] <escott> Dr_willis, surprisingly hard to find was expecting -owner not -uid
[02:22] <doctorpepper> can anyone please help me ,  i am trying to run teamfortress 2  on 12.04  but i keep having  a black screen  when i start it
[02:22] <gausie> escott: hahaha .Xauthority is here it turns out
[02:22] <Sloofus> Pepper isn't that still beta?
[02:23] <gausie> escott: just didnt show before
[02:23] <escott> gausie, files beginning with "." are hidden from normal listings
[02:24] <doctorpepper> Sloofus: yes , but i seems that  people are playing it . but i can figure out why  it doesnt work  for me
[02:24] <remu> I'm looking for a command line utility that will organize mp3s in a specific naming convention.
[02:24] <gausie> escott Dr_willis: fixed! thanks all for the help
[02:24] <escott> Dr_willis, yeah the mount does replace the inode http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r11/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.zos.r11.bpxb200/happens.htm
[02:24] <remu> So far the solutions I've found tend to focus on wole albums rather than single songs.
[02:24] <remu> Any recomendations?
[02:25] <Sloofus> doctorpepper: a black screen sounds like display issues but I'm not experienced enough to really know
[02:25] <c2tarun> is gTalk app also available for Ubuntu?
[02:25] <escott> remu, the problem is identifying a single song is much harder than identifying an album
[02:25] <xangua> c2tarun: you can use google talk with empathy
[02:25] <remu> I don't neccessarily need it identified. I was hoping something that would read the id3 tag, and then move it to my music library
[02:26] <dopiwan-> hello, I'm having trouble with video drivers.  I was running vesa ones okay and tried to install nvidia-current and now everytime X tries to load my system crashes.
[02:26] <dopiwan-> I've uninstalled the nvidia drivers and replaced the Driver "vesa" in my 10-monitor.conf and now when X loads it says "vesa: Ignoring device with a bound kernel driver"
[02:26] <remu> put it in the right place, and rename it accordingly
[02:26] <gausie> Dr_willis: one
[02:26] <c2tarun> xangua, I am using pidgin right now. But the thing is if I want to ping any of my friends who is offline then I can't. In gTalk if we ping them, they'll get the ping on coming online.
[02:26] <gausie> Dr_willis: whoops, that was a mistake. Thanks again :P
[02:26] <doctorpepper> Sloofus: i have seens  something  in the valve linux forum  saying something about updating the drivers from a ppa  but when i tried  to upgrade the driver  it fails
[02:26] <dopiwan-> can anyone help me with this?
[02:26] <escott> remu, you could use any of the identifying apps without the identification. i cant think of a cli variant though
[02:27] <Sloofus> doctorpepper: what card do you have?
[02:27] <dinosaurvskitten> what's a good linux sound server that has an android client? I'm trying to find something that will basically allow me to tune into my computer's speakers with my cell phone so I can use it as wireless headphones.
[02:27] <new-volume> criscoinverted
[02:27] <doctorpepper> intel
[02:27] <remu> escott, I was hoping for a cli variant so I can run it on my server, and possibly as a cron job
[02:27] <doctorpepper> Sloofus: Intel
[02:27] <Sloofus> Intel integrated?
[02:27] <doctorpepper> yes
[02:28] <Sloofus> Good luck...
[02:28] <xangua> dinosaurvskitten: i just turn on bluethooth in my phone and set it as audio exit :)
[02:28] <doctorpepper> Sloofus:  is it a problem
[02:29] <Sloofus> doctorpepper: Those cards are utter shite for gaming to begin with. You need a dedicated card.
[02:29] <Sloofus> Ati or nvidia
[02:30] <Sloofus> K folks I'm in a pickle. I'm on my phone so sorry for delayed responses. I'm away on business and can't seem to register an internet connection on my lappy. Plugged straight in and eth0 is up. Ubuntu 12.04. Thoughts?
[02:30] <doctorpepper> well TF2 i an old game so it should be no problem to run it on a laptop with intel graphics
[02:30] <dinosaurvskitten> xangua: ah, good idea. My workstation doesn't have bluetooth support, but I suppose I could get a usb adapter
[02:30] <moon`> Hey I haven't used this computer since 2010, I just plugged it back in and got everything working, what would be the best way to go about updating it to a current version of ubuntu?
[02:31] <designbybeck> Ubuntu on the new Yoga Lenovo? http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Lenovo+-+Yoga+IdeaPad+Ultrabook+13.3%22+Touch-Screen+Laptop+-+4GB+Memory+-+Silver/6634279.p?id=1218767481156&skuId=6634279
[02:31] <xangua> !ot | designbybeck
[02:32] <jrib> !upgrade | moon`
[02:33] <moon`> many thanks jrib
[02:33] <Sloofus> Anyone care to assist me in gaining inlet access on my Acer aspire one 722? Eth0 isn't 'just working' like it normally does...
[02:33] <Sloofus> Inet *
[02:34] <escott> Sloofus, you at a hotel?
[02:34] <Sloofus> Yessir
[02:35] <Sloofus> Or maam
[02:35] <escott> Sloofus, often those are captive networks, and you have to go through some kind of registration process
[02:35] <escott> Sloofus, usually going to any website will redirect you, if not call down to the front desk and ask how to register your computer
[02:35] <Sloofus> escott: but I should at least register an IP right?
[02:35] <mehwork> whenever i touch the right edge of my right monitor my mouse *always* gets messed up, until i refresh my screen or drag my mouse off the screen and back on. Any idea why? This only happens in unity
[02:36] <escott> Sloofus, they deny outbound connections and capture and redirect all traffic to their servers until you pay
[02:36] <escott> Sloofus, i would think you would have an ip but everyone does it differently so maybe they want you to do it differently
[02:37] <Sloofus> escott: free inet access. No regging on my smartphone required, lappy isn't pulling an IP at all
[02:37] <escott> Sloofus, you can try and manually run dhclient
[02:37] <KI4RO> Anyone know how to make xset settings permanent?
[02:37] <Sloofus> Sudo dhclient eth0?
[02:38] <escott> Sloofus, sure. but even with free they often still want you to plug in your room number so they can disconnect you when your stay is over (and so you dont sit in the lobby after you checkout)
[02:39] <Sloofus> escott: negative. Just verified with coworker that he did not need to register anything
[02:39] <Sloofus> escott: he's a windows user
[02:39] <Bustacap> I have a non ubuntu related question. Will my clothes get somewhat clean if I put them through the washer with no detergent, I ran out and am out of clean clothes and have my first day at a new job tomorrow!
[02:40] <Sloofus> escott: sudo dhclient eth0 is hanging.... that's not comforting.
[02:41] <xangua> !ot | Bustacap iy you know is not related, you don't :)
[02:41] <Bustacap> :P
[02:43] <Sloofus> To recap if anyone has any ideas: Acer aspire one 722 w/ Ubuntu 12.04 can't register an IP address at my hotel. No pre-registration is required at my location.
[02:44] <Sloofus> Eth1 also doesn't seem to be able to pick up any access points
[02:44] <Sloofus> (WiFi)
[02:45] <escott> Sloofus, check rfkill
[02:46] <Sloofus> escott: what args to pass?
[02:46] <escott> Sloofus, rfkill list eth1
[02:46] <escott> Sloofus, or list all
[02:47] <Sloofus> Weird...
[02:47] <Sloofus> Oh nvm
[02:48] <Sloofus> escott: rfkill list all shows 2 wireless LANs neither are hard or soft blocked
[02:48] <escott> Sloofus, anyways dhclient isnt going to do anything for wifi until you associate with the AP. i thought you were hard wired
[02:48] <Justin_jtb7rmv> ubuntu are you here tomorrow?
[02:48] <Sloofus> escott: I'm trying both
[02:49] <Sloofus> escott: let's stick to hardwired for the time being, no?
[02:49] <escott> Sloofus, usually that works better
[02:50] <Sharyari> Hi. Since upgrading to 12.10, my laptop doesn't recognize any usb devices (webcam, usb, phone). I can't find a trace of them anywhere when I plug them in (lsusb, dmesg). Any ideas?
[02:51] <escott> Sharyari, that would suggest your kernel is missing a driver for your usb bus
[02:52] <Sharyari> escott: I've been trying to modprobe some stuff before, don't remember what, but nothing seemed to work. What should be loaded do you think?
[02:53] <Sharyari> escott: lsmod | grep usb gives me nothing, so you're definetly right :)
[02:53] <escott> Sharyari, i have no idea. other than usbhid but thats not the controller that is for hid devices. to have the kernel not contain a controller for a usb bus would be a major regression
[02:54] <escott> Sloofus, so what is your "ifconfig" output right now
[02:54] <usr13> Sharyari: You might try modprobe usb_storage and see what that does.
[02:54] <escott> Sharyari, does lsusb show anything?
[02:54] <gotenks> hey guys, I need to remove old kernels. I deleted them manually in nautilus but they still show up in grub. and they don't show up in synaptic, how can I solve this?
[02:54] <Sharyari> nope
[02:55] <escott> Sharyari, lsusb should ALWAYS show the root hub. if it doesn't...
[02:55] <Sloofus> escott: showing eth0 and... eth0:avahi?
[02:55] <Sloofus> escott: displays usual info except ip
[02:55] <escott> gotenks, you can apt-get remove linux-kernel-versionnumber
[02:56] <Sharyari> usr13: load correctly, but doesn't detect anything
[02:56] <escott> gotenks, like sudo apt-get remove linux-image-3.5.0-17-generic
[02:56] <gotenks> even if they are not visible on synaptic? and I removed them manually on nautilus, somehow they still show up though
[02:56] <Sloofus> escott: but eth0:avahi shows nothing under "up broadcast multicast" etc
[02:56] <Sharyari> escott: yeah, it shows the root hub. But nothing on them
[02:56] <escott> gotenks, so you can dpkg -l "*linux*" and pick what to remove and remove it
[02:57] <Sloofus> Poor escott ... he's being everyone's superman
[02:57] <Sharyari> :)
[02:57] <th3pun15h3r> anyone had any luck installing ubuntu on a dell inspiron 2600
[02:57] <escott> Sloofus, its hard to say what is going on there
[02:57] <gogeta> th3pun15h3r: as long as it has enough ram you should be ok
[02:58] <escott> Sloofus, ive never seen an eth0:avahi device before
[02:58] <Sloofus> escott: yeah I'm befuddled...
[02:58] <gotenks> escott, see when I use that command, I only see 3.5 images but in grub I have a binch of 2. etc
[02:58] <Sharyari> Is it worth trying to go back to an earlier kernel?
[02:58] <escott> Sloofus, but that doesn't mean its bad
[02:58] <Sloofus> escott: one moment
[02:58] <OerHeks> Sharyari, try " update grub" from cli
[02:58] <escott> Sharyari, so the root hub is there, but hotplugging does not generate anything in dmesg
[02:58] <Sharyari> escott: correct
[02:59] <OerHeks> Sharyari, err "update-grub "
[02:59] <escott> Sharyari, at the grub prompt you can pick the older kernel
[02:59] <escott> Sharyari, if grub is not appearing you can hit shift or esc or something
[02:59] <zykotick9> escott: hold shift for grub2
[03:00] <usr13> gotenks: compare 'ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image*list' with uname -a  and do apt-get remove linux-image-x, y, and z accept for  the one you use now.
[03:00] <Sharyari> Ok, I'll be back soon with the results :)
[03:00] <escott> zykotick9, im not likely to remember what key it is... one of the ones on the left...
[03:00] <cfhowlett> gotenks: sudo update grub
[03:01] <gotenks> cfhowlett: /usr/sbin/grub-mkconfig: 11: /etc/default/grub: splash”: not found
[03:01] <gotenks> that's the return on that command
[03:01] <gotenks> I'm sorry to bother you guys, but I really don't know how to do this and my boot partition is full
[03:02] <cfhowlett> gotenks: sudo update grub should fix it
[03:02] <gotenks> I just did it and it said this: /usr/sbin/grub-mkconfig: 11: /etc/default/grub: splash”: not found
[03:02] <escott> cfhowlett, update-grub isn't going to help him that much
[03:02] <escott> gotenks, it sounds like you have a typo on line 11 of /etc/default/grub
[03:03] <gotenks> let me check
[03:03] <escott> gotenks, what is preventing you from "ls /boot; sudo apt-get remove linux-image-3.#.#-##-generic"
[03:03] <cfhowlett> escott: no?  OK.  I seemed to recall that update grub would reflect changes such as altered grub rosters.  My mistake.
[03:04] <usr13> th3pun15h3r: What kind of problem are you having?
[03:04] <escott> cfhowlett, it will but his problem is the thing was full and he needs to remove kernels
[03:04] <escott> cfhowlett, and he is removing them incorrectly
[03:04] <gotenks> escott the issues are not the 3.etc kernels, problem is all the 2.etc kernels, which are not displayed when I use the command ls
[03:05] <escott> gotenks, dpkg -l "*linux*" will list the ones that dpkg thinks are still installed from 2.# so you can then remove those
[03:05] <escott> gotenks, just rm'ing files in /boot will confuse dpkg
[03:05] <gotenks> well, that's what somebody told me to do, it's too late now
[03:06] <usr13> gotenks: compare 'ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image*list'
[03:06] <usr13> gotenks: ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image*list
[03:06] <escott> gotenks, yes but you can unconfuse dpkg by running those commands and dpkg should also fix up your boot menu
[03:07] <gotenks> OK, guys,I'm trying to follow you, I'm not too much of an expert, let me run those commands you just told me. thanks!
[03:07] <gotenks> I'll let you know how it goes
[03:08] <gotenks> usr13: when I run 'ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image*list' this is what happens: bash: ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image*list: No such file or directory
[03:08] <usr13> gotenks: That's interesting.
[03:08] <gotenks> am I fucked? ahha
[03:09] <Sloofus> escott: may have found the issue. Will let ya know. Thanks for your help btw
[03:09] <escott> gotenks, what shows up with "ii" on the left with dpkg -l "*linux*"
[03:09] <cfhowlett> !language please
[03:09] <escott> Sloofus, curious what it was
[03:09] <xangua>  "I removed them manually on nautilus" and that is scary usr13 gotenks
[03:10] <gotenks> I guess that was a mistake but two different people told me to do it here
[03:10] <gotenks> cause they said those kernels weren't used anyway
[03:10] <Sloofus> escott: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-nettool/+question/199450 check the third response from the bottom. I haven't updated or even used this machine in months.
[03:10] <escott> gotenks, another thought if you are deleting things with nautilus it may go to trash, and if you have a /boot partition the trash would be in that partition
[03:10] <usr13> gotenks: Just use the list you see in grub, compare with uname -a
[03:11] <usr13> gotenks: Don't remove the current one.
[03:11] <gotenks> usr13but how can I remove them if I don't see them?
[03:11] <Sharyari> Ok, that did not work
[03:11] <viking667> hello. I'm trying to downmix a 5.1 or 7.1 to my stereo headphones. I've got Ubuntu 11.10 and a HDA Nvidia chipset, using a Realtek ALC1200
[03:11] <Jordan_U> gotenks: Did you fix the error from /etc/default/grub? If not, please pastebin your /etc/default/grub.
[03:11] <Sloofus> escott: its very much possible I updated, had the same problem and just said "screw it I'll fix it later"
[03:11] <blunttuu> o
[03:11] <viking667> What do I need to check first?
[03:11] <escott> Sloofus, ok
[03:11] <usr13> gotenks: Do as gotenks says.  Look in trash.
[03:12] <lcabreza> hi guys, whats the equivalent of f-secure in Ubuntu ? how can i use the .ssh file ?
[03:12] <escott> lcabreza, what does f-secure do?
[03:12] <gotenks> usr13, you mean the regular trash right?
[03:12] <escott> !antivirus | lcabreza
[03:13] <escott> lcabreza, and i cant tell what you mean by the ".ssh" file
[03:13] <usr13> gotenks: Do as escott says.  Look in trash.  Yea, regular trash, irregular trash, what ever ;)
[03:13] <escott> gotenks, no it would be roots trash (because you had to be root to delete the kernels)
[03:13] <gotenks> it's empty  :/
[03:13] <gotenks> ah ok hang on
[03:14] <escott> gotenks, in general we would strongly discourage running nautilus as root
[03:14] <gotenks> yeah I know it's not a great idea but I was kinda desperate
[03:14] <rhin0> lol hes doing that escott
[03:14] <usr13> gotenks: desperate?  Are you running out of HD space?
[03:14] <gotenks> yeah, my boot partition is full
[03:15] <viking667> wouldn't surprise m... your WHAT?
[03:15] <gotenks> usr13, alright problems keep adding up. went to nautilus as root, can't access trash
[03:15] <viking667> oh yeah. most people don't use a separate /boot
[03:15] <rhin0> you ran out of disk space?
[03:15] <rhin0> things grind to a halt
[03:15] <viking667> linux handles that better than Windows does, funnily enough.
[03:16] <gotenks> OK, here's an idea, if I reinstall Ubuntu, do I remove the boot partition?
[03:16] <escott> gotenks, then check if there is a folder /boot/.Trash or /boot/.trash with "ls -al /boot"
[03:16] <viking667> I've had an example where Linux kept on trucking with an IRC client, even after the hard drive had uhm, died.
[03:16] <lcabreza> escott: they have this application on Windows called F-secure ssh client which they download and .ssh file and open it using that application. wondering what can i use for ..
[03:16] <escott> lcabreza, the ssh client is just "ssh"
[03:17] <gotenks> might have found it: drwx------  4 root root     1024 Nov 27 00:02 .Trash-0
[03:17] <escott> gotenks, thats it
[03:17] <viking667> yup.
[03:17] <usr13> gotenks:  lsb_release -a |pastebinit   #Show us resulting URL
[03:17] <escott> gotenks, ls -al /boot/.Trash-0
[03:17] <Jordan_U> gotenks: Why did you have a separate /boot/ partition in the first place? If you re-install Ubuntu without using a separate /boot/ partition you should be fine, though that definitely would be overkill and you should make sure that your regular backups are good before re-installing./
[03:18] <cfhowlett> gotenks: long shot, but perhaps purging your the saved downloads might help.  Sudo apt-get autoclean and sudo apt-get clean will do that
[03:18]  * viking667 uses a separate /boot so he doesn't toast his system when his root partition goes and fills up.
[03:18] <escott> gotenks, if that shows the various linux-image files, just move them back to /boot with "sudo mv /boot/.Trash-0 /boot" and remove them properly
[03:19] <lcabreza> escott:i guess my question would be. how can i use that .ssh file on my terminal instead of using f-secure client
[03:19] <escott> cfhowlett, his problem is /boot not the root partition
[03:19] <Justin_jtb7rmv> 'i need heelp
[03:20] <gotenks> escott, ran your command, this is what I see: total 9
[03:20] <gotenks> drwx------ 4 root root 1024 Nov 27 00:02 .
[03:20] <gotenks> drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 3072 Dec  1 16:23 ..
[03:20] <gotenks> drwx------ 2 root root 2048 Nov 27 00:02 files
[03:20] <gotenks> drwx------ 2 root root 3072 Nov 27 00:02 info
[03:20] <gotenks>  
[03:20] <escott> lcabreza, without knowing what is in a ".ssh" file... i cant say
[03:20] <FloodBot1> gotenks: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:20] <Justin_jtb7rmv> 'i need help
[03:20] <usr13> Justin_jtb7rmv: Tell us what your problem is.
[03:20] <escott> gotenks, then its in files. "sudo ls /boot/.Trash-0/files"
[03:20] <escott> gotenks, sudo mv /boot/.Trash-0/files/linux-* /boot
[03:21] <gotenks> escott,yes! they're there
[03:21] <escott> gotenks, another reason not to use nautilus. you didn't even accomplish what you wanted to accomplish
[03:21] <gotenks> yeah, I def learned a lesson here
[03:22] <gotenks> so wait, I see them in the list, now I just run: sudo mv /boot/.Trash-0/files/linux-* /boot ?
[03:22] <escott> gotenks, once you move them back to /boot you can "sudo rm -rf /boot/.Trash-0"
[03:22] <escott> gotenks, yes move them first then delete the trash folder
[03:22] <usr13> gotenks: nautilus has it's purposes but uninstalling kernels is not one of them.
[03:22] <gotenks> OK, let me try, thank you so much for your patience guys
[03:22] <gotenks> you are all awesome
[03:22] <cfhowlett> Justin_jtb7rmv: state the problem
[03:23] <viking667> using apt would be what I would have done. That or synaptic (or whatever the modern equivalent is now)
[03:24] <Ray2> Safest way is to use synaptic then do sudo update-grub
[03:24] <DWSR> if I wanted to do "for each item in a folder, move it" and I specifically DIDN'T want to do a batch operation, how would I do it?
[03:24] <escott> gotenks, before trying to uninstall things lets look at that /etc/default/grub issue. what is the output of "sed -n "11p" /etc/default/grub"
[03:24] <DWSR> (i.e. I specifically wanted to call mv 'item' for each thing as opposed to doing 1 mv *)
[03:24] <WeThePeople> how do i softblock my wifi
[03:24] <Justin_jtb7rmv> tar zxvf filename.tar.gz is not working
[03:24] <escott> DWSR, find -exec or | xargs
[03:25] <viking667> dwsr; you mean something like: for t in place; do mv ${t} otherplace  ?
[03:25] <DWSR> viking667: Yes, thank you
[03:25] <viking667> err, place/*
[03:25] <viking667> ... after all, you're needing the filenames for mv to work with
[03:25] <DWSR> yep.
[03:25] <DWSR> Will that also move folders?
[03:25] <viking667> test out what you need by using "do echo mv ${t} otherplace; done"
[03:26] <viking667> hard to say. Should do.
[03:26] <gotenks> escott, still trying to move files back. i'll BRB
[03:26] <escott> DWSR, and be careful about spaces in filenames.
[03:26] <MarkyC> Hey all, I'm using the minimal install CD, and after I press enter, I get a blank screen. I think I might need to adjust the video card settings (old laptop) in order to boot. What are the shorthands again? (I think I'm looking for framebuffer settings or similar)
[03:27] <DWSR> escott: I'm assuming that bash is going to deal with spaces.
[03:27] <DWSR> And that I'm not going to have to worry about space in t.
[03:27] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset|MarkyC:
[03:27] <DWSR> s/space in t/spaces in ${t}/
[03:27] <viking667> hm. No.
[03:28] <viking667> for that, you'd need mv "${t}" otherplace
[03:28] <DWSR> oh, heh
[03:28] <escott> DWSR, mv ${t} expands to mv foo bar which looks like two moves
[03:28] <viking667> thank you for pointing that out.
[03:28] <DWSR> Spoiled by PHP I guess.
[03:28] <lcabreza> escott: assuming that its secure. what command shall i use to run the .ssh file ?
[03:28] <viking667> don't ever let knowledge from one domain override another domain.
[03:28] <escott> DWSR, you should be able to avoid that with find -exec, but you always have to be careful
[03:28] <DWSR> viking667: Indeed, however I'm a mostly Windows user.
[03:28] <escott> lcabreza, i dont know what the file is. i've never heard of an ssh file
[03:29] <DWSR> viking667: Mostly because I game heavily. However with Steam coming to Linux, hopefully that will be less the case.
[03:29] <viking667> dwsr: oh gawd. I still remember the time I had to write a batch file that had to know where it resided.
[03:29] <Sharyari> So, does anyone have any more ideas on my usb problem? Right now, no usb modules are loaded at start, so that would be an indicator..
[03:29] <escott> lcabreza, is it a key? is it instructions on how to connect to some other server? what is it
[03:29] <escott> lcabreza, what does "file whatever.ssh" say
[03:29] <DWSR> viking667: pwd is your friend.
[03:29] <MarkyC> Unless the minimal installer is supposed to show a blank screen?
[03:29] <viking667> Uhm, no.
[03:30] <viking667> pwd showed me where I was when I started the file off, NOT where the file itself resided.
[03:30] <escott> !nomodeset | MarkyC
[03:30] <DWSR> viking667: Err...?
[03:30] <Justin_jtb7rmv> tar zxvf filename.tar.gz is not working
[03:30] <viking667> yes, the two are often different.
[03:30] <MarkyC> escott: yes, I got it, setting that boot param still gives me a blank screen
[03:31] <DWSR> viking667: Ah, oh I see. I'm always careful to give it a cwd wherever it resides.
[03:31] <DWSR> Mostly because I just find it avoids confusion.
[03:31] <MarkyC> In fact, I cannot even bring up tty1
[03:31] <DWSR> I also don't write batch scripts often.
[03:31] <DWSR> And hate it with the fury of a thousand suns.
[03:31] <viking667> DWSR: and would you have set that cwd separately for every single machine?
[03:32] <mashed-updata> hi all, question re Aircrack-ng on Ubuntu 12.10 ... is it still called Aircrack-ng or is it now as my command line suggest ... "iw"?
[03:33] <DWSR> viking667: Everything I write is for home use,.
[03:33] <DWSR> So the environment is pretty carefully controlled
[03:33] <viking667> heh. I had to write a script that would uhm, live in the wild.
[03:33] <gotenks> escott, moved em all and deleted the folder
[03:33] <viking667> and the program I was writing it for could live almost anywhere
[03:33] <viking667> you probably didn't need to delete the folder.
[03:33] <escott> gotenks, sed -n "11p" /etc/default/grub
[03:34] <gotenks> result of the command you told me is: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=”quiet splash”
[03:34] <Justin_jtb7rmv> 'i need help with setting up unralircd servewr
[03:34] <viking667> a ... what?
[03:34] <DWSR> unrealircd server.
[03:34] <escott> gotenks, that looks fine. maybe the error was somehow related to your deleting things with nautilus
[03:34] <lcabreza> escott:it has some connection details : like windows title, cipher ..
[03:34] <viking667> ahh, now THAT I know.
[03:34] <DWSR> viking667: ^^
[03:34] <DWSR> :)
[03:34] <viking667> but I don't know the details.
[03:34] <gotenks> escott, cool so how do I get rid of them now?
[03:34] <viking667> it's been back in uhm... 2002 since I last tried to run ircd
[03:35] <DWSR> viking667: This command is the first step in organizing a 1TB music collection.
[03:35] <escott> gotenks, for each kernel in /boot that you want to remove you should be able to sudo apt-get remove linux-image-FULL_VERSION_NUM-generic
[03:35] <viking667> Oh. Right.
[03:35] <escott> gotenks, you have to keep at least one
[03:35] <DWSR> viking667: So yeah.....MusicBrainz Picard!
[03:35] <DWSR> All the days.
[03:35] <MarkyC> More info: I get the "loading linux..... loading initrd....." messages, and the screen then goes black. nomodset doesn't fix this. I'm trying the expert command line install btw
[03:35] <escott> lcabreza, i dont know of any tool that can parse that, but if you can read it you can use the computer in your brain
[03:36] <escott> lcabreza, probably faster than trying to find a tool to parse that file
[03:36] <escott> MarkyC, unfortunately other than... its not working i dont know what to say
[03:36] <Justin_jtb7rmv> tar zxvf filename.tar.gz is not working
[03:36] <escott> !work | Justin_jtb7rmv
[03:37] <gotenks> escott, like for example: sudo apt-get remove linux-image-2.6.38-10-generic ?
[03:37] <viking667> sigh. anyhow, I've not had much luck finding information on making pulseaudio do downmixing
[03:37] <blunttuu> lol
[03:37] <viking667> gotenks: yes.
[03:37] <gotenks> perfect!
[03:37] <Jordan_U> gotenks: escott: That line appears to have smart quotes, (”) rather than regular quotes (").
[03:37] <viking667> but don't remove your latest
[03:37] <escott> Jordan_U, good catch
[03:37] <gotenks> that's true Jordan_U!
[03:37] <blunttuu> it puts the lotion on its skin or it gets the hose again
[03:37] <Jordan_U> gotenks: Please pastebin your complete /etc/default/grub (you can do this by running "pastebinit /etc/default/grub".
[03:37] <Jordan_U> !ot | blunttuu
[03:37] <escott> gotenks, never use open office to edit system files
[03:38] <viking667> oh GOD no.
[03:38] <gotenks> I didn't, something must have went wrong.
[03:38] <viking667> If you have to kill a kitten, at least use nano.
[03:38] <gotenks> holdon
[03:38] <thebishop> hey ey
[03:39] <viking667> I normally use vim, but others who can't stand vim commonly use emacs, nano, or something else almost entirely textbased
[03:39] <viking667> gotenks: what command did you use? Or did you click instead?
[03:39] <escott> viking667, gedit is pretty easy to understand for most people
[03:39] <thebishop> is the nautilus file chooser busted for anyone else?  I've noticed in SoundConverter and Audacity, I select a folder for open/save and nothing is returned, the dialog just keeps my home folder, which is the default
[03:39] <viking667> escott: exactly.
[03:39] <gotenks> I used gedit to edit that file
[03:40] <viking667> personally, I use gvim/vim, with occasional forays into emacsland
[03:40] <viking667> so, you went "gedit somefile" or did you right-click on thefilename and chose "Open with gedit"?
[03:41] <gotenks> honestly I don't remember, I might have copied and pasted it from online and that's how those quotes got there
[03:41] <gotenks> I did that last week
[03:41] <viking667> sigh.
[03:41] <gotenks> escott, OK here my grub: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1406618/
[03:42] <Jordan_U> gotenks: escott: viking667: Many blogging platforms automatically transform quotes in posts to smart quotes, it's a common problem with blog tutorials.
[03:42] <escott> gotenks, be careful about stuff like that. fix that up with ascii quotes and then you should be ok
[03:42] <escott> gotenks, it looks like its just the one line
[03:43] <Jordan_U> gotenks: Everything but the quotes looks good, so fix that and you should be fine (at least as far as the /etc/default/grub goes).
[03:43] <viking667> yes, quite.
[03:43] <escott> gotenks, gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub
[03:43] <viking667> ahhh yes. I knew I was trying to think of something
[03:44] <gotenks> escott, OK, edited.
[03:44] <Justin_jtb7rmv> tar: You may not specify more than one `-Acdtrux' or `--test-label' option
[03:44] <Justin_jtb7rmv> Try `tar --help' or `tar --usage' for more information.
[03:44] <Bustacap> Now Playing: Still D.R.E by Dr. Dre from the album Chronic 2001 [Rap]
[03:44] <Bustacap> o.O
[03:44] <escott> gotenks, also run "file /etc/default/grub" to make sure it says ASCII TEXT
[03:44] <SierraAR> Just want to note I found an odd bug in ubuntu 12.04 64-bit using cinnamon.. Copying files from my documents folder to the shared ntfs partition I just recently created. When I'm right clicking, the context menu has 'Paste' grayed out, but it still pastes the files when I click it
[03:45] <gotenks> escott, yep, ASCII text
[03:45] <viking667> Bustacap: then I guess you'd know the song Conscience, by Eminem & Dr Dre
[03:45] <Bustacap> Of course :P
[03:47] <gotenks> escott, so basically now everything is fine as far as the grub in etc/default. how do I get rid of them?
[03:47] <escott> gotenks, apt-get remove linux-image-VERSION-generic
[03:47] <gotenks> escott, apt-get remove linux-kernel-versionnumber ?
[03:47] <gotenks> ok thanks!
[03:48] <escott> gotenks, it may be easier to run dpkg -l "*linux*" and copy paste the package name from that
[03:48] <escott> gotenks, you may also have headers for the old kernels which could also be removed
[03:48] <Justin_jtb7rmv> tar: You may not specify more than one `-Acdtrux' or `--test-label' option
[03:49] <escott> Justin_jtb7rmv, please paste.ubuntu.com the full terminal session
[03:49] <viking667> actually, what was the single line you typed in for tar?
[03:49] <viking667> tar xvf somefilename.tar.gz    ?
[03:50] <viking667> that's what I use now.
[03:50] <almoxarife> to get headers back do a apt-get of 'linux-headers-generic'
[03:50] <viking667> because tar is now erm, smart enough to grab gunzip for itself instead of needing a specific switch (z)
[03:51] <gotenks> escott,sorry, i'm a little stuck. I think apt-get remove doesn't work cause those versions don't show up when I type dpkg -l "*linux*
[03:51] <gotenks> I think I have to remove all the files I tried to remove on nautilus on terminal. that would work right?
[03:52] <Justin_jtb7rmv> ubuntu 12.04
[03:52] <escott> gotenks, well if dpkg doesn;t think they are installed i suppose you cant make it worse by rm'ing them. sudo rm /boot/linux-image-version-generic
[03:52] <escott> gotenks, im worried about what you did to make dpkg forget they were installed
[03:52] <Justin_jtb7rmv> i am usingubuntu 12.04
[03:53] <Justin_jtb7rmv> i am using ubuntu 12.04
[03:53] <escott> gotenks, each kernel comes with a kernel, a system map, an abi a config and an initrd
[03:53] <gotenks> escott, I didn't do anything, of this I'm sure. I upgraded to 12.10, actually fresh installed
[03:53] <viking667> Justin_jtb7rmv: what language do you normally understand?
[03:53] <gotenks> so I should remove all those files for each kernel
[03:53] <escott> gotenks, what does appear with "ii" on the left with dpkg -l "*linux*"
[03:53] <gotenks> let me check again
[03:54] <escott> gotenks, you should make every effort to remove them with apt-get. even going so far as typing the version number in
[03:55] <almoxarife> !synaptic <-- cause sometimes a gui is as sexy
[03:55] <gotenks> escott, just to make sure, here's the result of your latest command: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1406694/
[03:55] <gotenks> but in boot I got a lot of old kernels like System.map-2.6.38-10-generic-pae etc
[03:56] <escott> it helps to maximize that terminal, but i don't see any 2.6 version kernels there
[03:56] <escott> gotenks, at least try: apt-get remove linux-image-2.6.38-10-generic-pae
[03:56] <blackshirt> dpkg -l | grep linux-image-2.6
[03:56] <gotenks> escott: E: Unable to locate package linux-image-2.6.38-10-generic-pae
[03:56] <gotenks> E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'linux-image-2.6.38-10-generic-pae'
[03:57] <blackshirt> dpkg -l | grep linux-image-2.6 | grep pae
[03:57] <blackshirt> Or similar like this
[03:57] <escott> gotenks, you could even try apt-get remove "linux-image-2*" and see if that picks up anything
[03:58] <escott> gotenks, not sure why dpkg would lose track of a package like that
[03:58] <almoxarife> gotenks: do you have pastebinit installed?
[03:58] <gotenks> escott: same error for that command too
[03:59] <blackshirt> i think you changes your  apt sources.list and miss for update
[04:00] <escott> gotenks, i guess just "sudo rm -i /boot/*2.6*" and it will ask you about each file
[04:00] <gotenks> escott. OK, I'll do that, I'll let you know how it goes!
[04:01] <almoxarife> gotenks: do you konw how to use 'synaptic'?
[04:01] <viking667> ummmm, 2.6?
[04:01] <gotenks> amoxarife, I do, and I have pastebin
[04:01] <viking667> that MUST have been from an earlier release.
[04:02] <almoxarife> gotenks: use synaptic, and with it, search for 'linux-image' , that should list all kernels installed or not, you are looking for the installed, should have one viable one, the one you are using, the rest can be removed
[04:03] <gotenks> escott, I said yes to all. and it looks like the space is back. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I really appreciate it. I wish I could pay you a beer or something
[04:03] <dwarder> i have a usb hdd with ubuntu installed on it, and it works on many PC and notebooks that i have (booting from usb and running OS) i was wondering if it is possible to boot from this hdd on my mac book pro?
[04:03] <gotenks> almoxarife, we solved it, escott helped me out. the problem here was that these kernels did not show up in synaptic
[04:04] <almoxarife> gotenks: alrighty
[04:04] <blackshirt> gotenks,is it your own kernel build by your self ?
[04:04] <almoxarife> gotenks: and you didnt wipe the kernel that is in memory right now, yes?
[04:05] <gotenks> almoxarife, nono, I wiped out a bunch of 2.6 kernels. I have 3.5 I believe now
[04:05] <dwarder> almoxarife: awesome question =)
[04:05] <gotenks> I-m a noob, but not that much
[04:05] <gotenks> blackshirt, no, it'snot
[04:05] <almoxarife> gotenks: i would reboot, now, just to see what is what
[04:06] <almoxarife> !info update-grub
[04:07] <viking667> it's a command, not a package
[04:08] <almoxarife> i need help with rdp server on lxde, how to set up, so far no go here
[04:08] <almoxarife> viking667: yes, and it would also tell me what kernels are still viable
[04:09] <almoxarife> do i need to be in the group to get access to the server?
[04:10] <viking667> uhm... I suspect I'm missing something too. I no longer have a update-grub (or update-grub2) command. I'm wondering if we've got it wrong?
[04:10] <almoxarife> viking667: look at the file /etc/default/grub , is the update command still the same?
[04:11] <viking667> I'll have to check that.
[04:11] <viking667> Ah, silly me. I'm the wrong user.
[04:12] <viking667> it's in /usr/sbin
[04:12] <viking667> and the binary can be found in the grub2-common package
[04:13] <gdeeble> Hey, curiosity. Does anyone know if the widget found on Damn Small Linux, with load, usage, etc, exists for ubuntu as a widget? Not using htop or system monitor.
[04:13] <blunttuu> hi
[04:14] <blunttuu> if anyone has any unbuntu related questions feel free to message me
[04:14] <blunttuu> i mean ubuntu
[04:15] <almoxarife> blunttuu:  i need help with rdp server on lxde, how to set up, so far no go here
[04:15] <dwarder> sooo, no way to boot from ubuntu usb hdd?
[04:15] <dwarder> on mac book
[04:15] <blunttuu> i would ask viking667  almoxarife
[04:16] <blunttuu> he sounds pretty smart
[04:16] <almoxarife> dwarder: darn, works mostly on a rooted kindle :)
[04:16] <blunttuu> lol
[04:16] <viking667> actually, I've never worked with a macbook.
[04:16] <viking667> sorry.
[04:16] <viking667> so I don't know how to get it to boot from a USB drive
[04:16] <[Saint]> Gee...that's a tough one. PM an individual that misspells Ubuntu, or, use the channel is it is intended.
[04:16] <[Saint]> ...tough call. ;)
[04:16] <almoxarife> blunttuu: so you cant help me?
[04:17] <Kindari> Hey all. Trying to get a command in the form of "sudo -u user" etc to execute that users .bashrc so the path is properly resolved. Any advice?
[04:17]  * cfhowlett errrrrr
[04:17] <viking667> and in addition, the last time I used rdp to boot a linux, I was playing with kernel 2.0, not 3.2
[04:17] <dwarder> almoxarife: hmm, well, just hooking it up to mac book doesn't boot linux :(
[04:18] <viking667> anyhow, nobody seems inclined to answer my pulseaudio question.
[04:18] <almoxarife> viking667: no need to boot, been booted, i need rdp for 'sound' !
[04:18] <viking667> so I need to uhm, depart.
[04:18] <viking667> "rdp"?
[04:18] <almoxarife> yes
[04:18] <viking667> ugh. my apologies. I mistook the environment.
[04:19] <tizz> hello folks, is there a "non-help" ubuntu channel?
[04:19] <[Saint]> viking667: this is IRC, you need to be prepared to idle for multiple hours.
[04:19] <viking667> and no, I've never set up a rdp server, only whatever serves as the X remote accessing thingy.
[04:19] <[Saint]> Just because someone doesn't answer *right now* doesn't mean that people don't read logs and someone won't answer later.
[04:19] <almoxarife> viking667: yes, got that one's
[04:19] <viking667> heh. I know that, but frankly I waited for days on another question. nobody actualy knew the answer.
[04:20] <viking667> tightvnc, or whatever the other one is... vino?
[04:20] <viking667> vinagre?
[04:20] <almoxarife> viking667: useless for sound
[04:20] <viking667> yeah, so I'm finding. Any way to access the remote's pulseaudio server?
[04:21] <almoxarife> viking667: its an arm- :)
[04:21] <viking667> or more properly, for the remote end to access the local pulseaudio server?
[04:21] <viking667> h...m
[04:21] <rrajbe> Hi Everyone, i want to start a process as daemon, by adding script at /etc/init.d/ and to restart if its ever killed.
[04:21] <rrajbe> I had completed the adding script as below..
[04:21] <almoxarife> viking667: lxde-arm on a rooted kindle,
[04:22] <rrajbe> while ! daemon_process &; do
[04:22] <rrajbe> echo " restarting";done
[04:22] <rrajbe> But its still not restarting if im killing that.
[04:22] <rrajbe> Any help please?
[04:22] <viking667> almoxarife: is it the one running the desktop you want to access? or are you using it to access a local desktop?
[04:24] <tizz> hello folks, is there a "non-help" ubuntu channel? like just a general chat?
[04:24] <zykotick9> !ot | tizz
[04:24] <almoxarife> viking667: it is running in background, accessed presently via ssh and vnc, i cant get sound via vnc, but i expect that, its vnc
[04:24] <tizz> ty folks
[04:26] <stareagyl> viking: wikipedia suggests mplayer
[04:26] <viking667> sigh. It would.
[04:26] <stareagyl> :-)
[04:26] <viking667> I'm trying to actualy get my minecraft to do full 5/7.1 surround sound, but in my headphones.
[04:27] <viking667> ... after all, I don't have seven speakers, I only have two.
[04:27] <blunttuu> two is enough
[04:27] <viking667> so either stereo would do (unfortunately) or I have to work out how to downmix.
[04:27] <blunttuu> any more than two, means you are spoiled
[04:27] <viking667> silly thing is, the game knows what dolby is.
[04:27] <viking667> awww. gee.
[04:27] <blunttuu> Lol
[04:27] <viking667> call me an audiophile then. I like my sound.
[04:27] <NastyNaz> anyone know how I can upload to google music via command line only? (running ubuntu server)
[04:28] <viking667> almoxarife: so. I stil don't have something straight. let me re-read.
[04:29] <viking667> so, which end is being the server? And which end is the viewer that you want sound on?
[04:29] <DaemonicApathy> NastyNaz: http://www.androidcentral.com/google-music-manager-now-available-linux
[04:30] <DaemonicApathy> You may have to use the hud cli with that, I'm not sure.
[04:30] <NastyNaz> DaemonicApathy: i'm running headless with no GUI. I don't think that version supports CLI commands
[04:31] <DaemonicApathy> NastyNaz: Hm, fair enough. You've intrigued me into further research. ;-)
[04:36] <klync> one of my system services (mpd) won't start correctly at boot, but leaves a process running i have to kill, after which I can restart it with `/etc/init.d/mpd`. doing `start mpd` or `service mpd start` just hangs
[04:41] <NastyNaz> DaemonicApathy: thanks!
[04:41] <DaemonicApathy> np
[04:45] <nefarious> hello
[04:46] <tizz> hi
[04:46] <tizz> or not
[04:46] <tizz> w/e
[04:49] <stareagyl> Nasty: http://antimatter15.com/wp/2011/05/uploading-mp3s-to-google-music-beta-from-linux-chrome-os-win-and-mac/
[04:49] <stareagyl> fun story with integrated clues
[04:53] <dfcnvt> hey guys, how do you get the ps/2 mouse to reset or get recoginzed? My mouse is not moving (tried to unplug/plug, restart system, nothing worked)
[04:53] <zykotick9> dfcnvt: don't unplug a ps/2 mouse from a running system...
[04:53] <viking667> for PS/2 you have to power down
[04:53] <viking667> and start up again
[04:54] <dfcnvt> Tried that. didn't seems to work.
[04:54] <viking667>  tried the mouse on another ps2-able machine?
[04:54] <[Saint]> If that's the case, ...the system has problems. Be it hardware or software.
[04:55] <dfcnvt> Yes, the mouse is  not a defect.
[04:55] <[Saint]> But, anyway, yeah...there's no plug-and-play for PS/2
[04:55] <[Saint]> you need to reboot.
[04:55] <viking667> good, that's one step out of the way
[04:55] <viking667> no, not reboot. Power DOWN.
[04:55] <viking667> a reboot doesn't always reset the circuitry.
[04:55] <dfcnvt> While the system is running?
[04:55] <viking667> a powercycle will.
[04:55] <viking667> hm.-
[04:56] <[Saint]> How do you reboot a system that isn't running? :P
[04:56] <viking667> is the system in front of you? (i.e. not remote)
[04:56] <dfcnvt> You meant to say I should 'Shutdown' the system and give it a few second reset then start the system up.
[04:56] <dfcnvt> Correct?
[04:56] <viking667> yup
[04:56] <dfcnvt> rest*
[04:56] <viking667> commonly called powercycling.
[04:56] <dfcnvt> Alright then
[04:57] <dfcnvt> Let it be I, follow the community's recommendation.
[04:57] <[Saint]> A reboot _should_ be sufficient, but viking667 is likely correct that a power cycle is the guaranteed method.
[04:57] <dfcnvt> Off I go. Thanks though.
[04:57] <viking667> good luck
[04:58] <viking667> I've had older machines that didn't do a full hardware reset, in order to save a few thousand cycles for the reboot.
[04:58] <gnnr> sometime reinstalling xserver-xorg-input-mouse mdetect xbase-clients
[04:59] <verempuan> arggggggh
[05:00] <verempuan> asa
[05:00] <verempuan> hi
[05:01] <gnnr> hi verempuan if you have a question you can simply ask and wait for someone to answer
[05:01] <NastyNaz> DaemonicApathy: sadly those scripts dont work anymore as of the latest google updated :(
[05:01] <verempuan> how to resize resolution monitor on ubuntu ?
[05:02] <ses1984> i'm trying to get openldap authentication to work on a client, and i think it is, but i'm not sure how to log in as an ldap client from the login screen
[05:02] <ses1984> it seems like i can su to an ldap user, but i don't see ldap users in the login screen. i'm using 12.04
[05:03] <DaemonicApathy> Ah, sorry NastyNaz. I tried.
[05:03] <zangetsu> if u are using unity there should be a settings icon on the left hand bar verempuan
[05:05] <kvothetech> verempuan: xrandr unless you're in nvidia
[05:06] <blunttuu> ok
[05:07] <datruth> Is there away to increase my screen brightness?
[05:10] <viking667> what type of screen is it?
[05:10] <viking667> laptop? CRT? LED/LCD?
[05:12] <datruth> viking667: laptop
[05:14] <zangetsu> usually u have function keys on ur laptop to do that datruth
[05:15] <Jordan_U> datruth: If this function of your display is supported through normal means, an option for this should appear in the power saving settings as well (though I can't confirm at the moment as I'm at a Desktop machine).
[05:16] <datruth> Jordan_U: in the power settings the display is set to max also my fn keys work in changing the display I just dont think its reaching a full 100% is there a sysctl that could assist with this?
[05:21] <Jordan_U> datruth: Why do you suspect that it's not 100%?
[05:22] <datruth> Jordan_U: because in windows my screen is much much brighter
[05:23] <zangetsu> datruth: in my laptop fn+up-arrow/down-arrow changes brightness.
[05:24] <Jordan_U> datruth: Can you tell if the screen backlight is brighter or darker during very early boot (especially while still in the firmware screens) than when booted into Ubuntu?
[05:24] <zykotick9> datruth: it's not an asus netbook is it?
[05:26] <zangetsu> datruth: some laptops have brightness function assigned to one of the function keys F1-F12
[05:26] <sargennto> Anybody happen to have Hulu Desktop working on 12.04?
[05:26] <sargennto> I just get a segmentation fault error when I run it
[05:27] <datruth> zangetsu: yes I have a asus g74s
[05:27] <datruth> zangetsu: is their a specific issue with asus laptops?
[05:28] <datruth> Jordan_U: when booting to ubuntu the screen is dim then when it gets to the login it brightens up
[05:29] <zangetsu> datruth: i think fn-F5 and fn-F6 are the brightness changing keys for ur laptop
[05:30] <Jordan_U> datruth: Is the login screen the same brightness as post-login (i.e. still less than in Windows at 100%)?
[05:31] <datruth> zangetsu: yes that is correct after making some xorg.conf /etc/default/grub changes
[05:31] <datruth> Jordan_U: yes
[05:31] <strat1227> hi all
[05:32] <strat1227> i'm wondering, i updated from 10.04 to the current version, and i don't like unity at all. is there a simple way to use the old setup in 12.10?
[05:32] <zykotick9> !notunity | strat1227
[05:33] <strat1227> thanks all, i'll check that out
[05:33] <strat1227> all of that is easily un-doable correct?
[05:37] <EmmEight> what is the command to open up the network manager
[05:38] <zykotick9> EmmEight: nm-applet
[05:38] <EmmEight> what about in KDE
[05:42] <sargennto> Since installing the 'xubuntu-desktop' packages my volume slider graphic in Unity is now not displaying... Anybody know what gives?
[05:42] <ses1984> i'm trying to get openldap authentication working, and it seems to be working because from the command line i can sudo su ldap_user,
[05:43] <ses1984> but i would like to be able to log in to an ldap user with the unity desktop. i'm using 12.04
[05:49] <mns> how do I get the icons on the left hand side in Unity to be smaller ?  I dont like the fact that I've got to scroll up and down for them
[05:49] <sd> how many type of browse can you install in ubuntu
[05:50] <DaemonicApathy> mns: Settings > Appearance > Launcher Icon size (using 12.04.1)
[05:51] <sd> how many type of browse can you install in ubuntu
[05:51] <sd> no one knows
[05:51] <sd> omg is that bad
[05:51] <DaemonicApathy> As many as you want, as long as they exist for the system, sd.
[05:51] <DaemonicApathy> Btw, 1 minute is not long enough for "no one knows".
[05:51] <sd> and what are the available browser ?
[05:52] <DaemonicApathy> I'm sure Google knows.
[05:52] <mns> DaemonicApathy: I dont have any such setting.  I"m on 12.04 I think.  How do I tell what version I'm on ?
[05:52] <sd> i hate googls
[05:53] <DaemonicApathy> mns: You can check in the System Monitor, in the far left tab.
[05:53] <hongtinh> mns: lsb_release -a
[05:55] <mns> according to that I"ve got 12.04 (precise)
[05:57] <DaemonicApathy> If you don't have the option in the system settings, I suggest installing compizconfig-settings-manager, where you can adjust most features of Unity fairly easily. s long as you don't mess around with things you don't understand.
[06:05] <iIlL0oO> how to remove zeitgeist in 12.04 ?
[06:07] <DaemonicApathy> iIlL0oO: Why not just disable it?
[06:07] <iIlL0oO> DaemonicApathy: how to disable it
[06:08] <DaemonicApathy> System Settings > Privacy > switch in the lower right
[06:08] <iIlL0oO> DaemonicApathy: thank you
[06:08] <DaemonicApathy> Any time.
[06:11] <iIlL0oO> DaemonicApathy: there is no Privacy in gnome-control-center --overview
[06:12] <Bustacap> I'm bored, there are 1300 people less in offtopic.
[06:13] <Bustacap> Someone talk to me :)
[06:13] <DaemonicApathy> iIlL0oO: For me, it's between Language Support and Ubuntu One. Are you not on 12.04.1?
[06:14] <joey8> hi bustacap
[06:14] <iIlL0oO> Description:	Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS
[06:14] <DaemonicApathy> I have no idea why it would be missing for you.
[06:15] <Bustacap> HI!!!!!
[06:15] <joey8> Bustacap: :)
[06:15] <iIlL0oO> DaemonicApathy: ok , I'll chmod -x for it .
[06:15] <Bustacap> joey8, what's up?!
[06:15] <iIlL0oO> DaemonicApathy: thank you
[06:15] <DaemonicApathy> Yw.
[06:19] <Phoebus> Facing dependency hell on an offline (has to be offline) ubuntu precise (desktop, and the server editions, different boxes). ANY way to download packages WITH dependencies to deploy?
[06:19] <Bustacap> joey8, left me, I need a new friend.
[06:19] <Bustacap> Someone pm me.
[06:19] <qmr> ubuntu 12.04 pretty stock install.  unity keeps doing this stupid expose thing on some type of input from my touchpad. (which I am almost certain is not multi touch)  how do I disable this?  It is EXTREMELY annoying
[06:19] <zykotick9> !aptoncd | Phoebus
[06:20] <Phoebus> Cheers zykotick9 :)
[06:20] <iIlL0oO> qmr: apt-get install gnome-shell , logout for select
[06:21]  * Thrasher194 walksbackwards
[06:21]  * Bustacap walks backwards faster
[06:21] <qmr> sgjdfsk;lgjdfsk;lgajklgj;lkj won't stop.  about to break laptop.
[06:21] <qmr> iIlL0oO: I can't disable it somewhere in settings?
[06:22]  * Bustacap likes moon walking.
[06:22] <iIlL0oO> qmr: I'v no idea . I use cairo-dock instead
[06:24] <qmr> I just did metacity --replace and it is still doing it.  wtf.
[06:26] <qmr> I logged in as "Ubuntu 2D" ..
[06:27] <rayleigh> say hi
[06:27] <qmr> gconftool-2 --toggle /apps/metacity/general/compositing_manager  .. that did it.
[06:29] <DouglasK> How do I install the "3rd party software" (mp3, etc) after installation?  package name(s) are fine
[06:31] <sargennto> DouglasK: You should just be able to install the 'ubuntu-restricted-extras' package
[06:31] <DouglasK> thanks, that's just what I needed.  :)
[06:31] <sargennto> DouglasK: I assume you mean for mp3/dvd play back and such?
[06:32] <sargennto> NP :)
[06:34] <zykotick9> !info ubuntu-restricted-extras | DouglasK fyi, does NOT have DVD support here
[06:35] <DouglasK> That's fine ... no optical drive in this machine anyway.  :)
[06:37] <AlMalaak> hello
[06:38] <bobweaver> hello AlMalaak :)
[06:38] <AlMalaak> hi
[06:39] <AlMalaak> i resized my lvm partition via this
[06:39] <AlMalaak> http://www.tcpdump.com/kb/os/linux/lvm-resizing-guide/shrink.html
[06:39] <AlMalaak> and it seems to work fine
[06:39] <FloodBot1> AlMalaak: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:39] <AlMalaak> gparted now says there is 114gb free on lvm partition
[06:43] <AlMalaak> im wondering how to take advantage of that 114gb free?
[06:43] <AlMalaak> so i can install windows?
[06:44] <krishank> hii
[06:45] <krishank> i want to track websites that visited by the user in my network
[06:47] <Jordan_U> AlMalaak: If you only shrunk the logical volume, and not the physical volume, then Windows will not be able to access it as Windows does not understand LVM (at least not by default).
[06:47] <Jordan_U> AlMalaak: Why did you shrink the volume?
[06:48] <AlMalaak> jordan, i shrunk both
[06:49] <AlMalaak> Jordan_U, i wanted to take 50gb away and give it to windows(to install windows onto)
[06:49] <strat1227> hi all, quick question
[06:49] <AlMalaak> so i followed the instructions on that page, and it seems to have worked
[06:49] <Jordan_U> AlMalaak: Could you pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l"?
[06:49] <AlMalaak> jordan, one second, let me reboot to get network access
[06:49] <strat1227> just installed ubuntu 12.10, and the volume bar is very very skewed
[06:50] <strat1227> meaning unless the volume is at 80% or higher, it's inaudible
[06:50] <AlMalaak> i was basically trying to free up 50gb so i can install win8 onto it
[06:50] <strat1227> and the entire range of volumes is contained in that last 20%
[06:50] <strat1227> any thoughts on how this could be fixed?
[06:53] <roodyyy> hi
[06:54] <moon`> I'm trying to upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04 and I'm getting this error while attempting: Failed to fetch http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz  404  Not Found
[06:54] <almoxarife> moon`: yeap, its not there, 404 for sure
[06:54] <moon`> ideally I'm trying to get my system current with the latest distro.  I haven't used this computer since 2010 and I've forgotten a lot of linux commands and the like but needing to get this box up and running again so I pulled it out of storage
[06:55] <moon`> any suggestions almoxarife?
[06:55] <AlMalaak> Jordan_U, http://pastebin.ca/2268221
[06:55] <almoxarife> moon`: whats the aversion to virgin install of 12.04?
[06:56] <moon`> I suppose there isn't one as long as I don't lose anything on the hd's
[06:56] <almoxarife> moon`backup the home dir, and do a clean 12.04? its lts
[06:57] <boo_> moon : There's an option in the package manager to check for a new distro
[06:57] <moon`> lts?
[06:57] <Jordan_U> Akuma: Your physical volume, /dev/sda1, is still 500 GiB.
[06:57] <almoxarife> moon`: long term maintenance
[06:57] <AlMalaak> Jordan_U, you mean me?:)
[06:58] <AlMalaak> this is what i did: http://www.tcpdump.com/kb/os/linux/lvm-resizing-guide/shrink.html.  I downsized home 50gb, or so i thought
[06:58] <Jordan_U> AlMalaak: Yes. Sorry for the mis-highlight Akuma.
[06:58] <AlMalaak> i told it to be 300000M
[06:58] <AlMalaak> logically and physically
[06:58] <AlMalaak>  /dev/mapper/vg_laptop-lv_home to 300000M
[06:59] <AlMalaak> it was like 350000M or something
[06:59] <AlMalaak> basically i tried to shave 50gb off
[06:59] <Jordan_U> AlMalaak: That guide never goes over changing the size of the physical volume.
[07:00] <AlMalaak> well, i did resize2fs and then lvresize
[07:00] <AlMalaak> so i only changed the logical volume?
[07:00] <Jordan_U> AlMalaak: /dev/mapper/vg_laptop-lv_home is the logical volume, the physical volume is /dev/sda2.
[07:00] <AlMalaak> doh!
[07:00] <Jordan_U> AlMalaak: Yes, the prefix "lv" stands for logical volume.
[07:00] <AlMalaak> well, i thought i could then use gparted to change the physical volume, but that doesn't seem to work
[07:01] <AlMalaak> Jordan_U, for some reason, gparted says 114GB of /dev/sda2 lvm is free
[07:01] <AlMalaak> im not sure why, since i only reduced it 50GB
[07:02] <AlMalaak> Jordan_U, what do i do now?
[07:02] <bobweaver> what is the difference between  upgrade and dist-upgrade ?
[07:02] <AlMalaak> to resize physvol?
[07:02] <AlMalaak> pvresize?
[07:04] <Jordan_U> AlMalaak: Try "sudo pvresize --test --setphysicalvolumesize 450G /dev/sda2"
[07:04] <AlMalaak> i tried to use gparted to do the physical resizing, but it has an already allocated error
[07:04] <almoxarife> bobweaver: the later is a upgrade in distro, like up one
[07:05] <bobweaver> almoxarife,  then what is different about do-release and dist-upgrade
[07:05] <AlMalaak>  /dev/sda2: cannot resize to 14399 extents as later ones are allocated.
[07:05] <bobweaver> sorry
[07:05] <Jordan_U> AlMalaak: Confirm that the new size, 450 GiB, is correct.
[07:05] <almoxarife> bobweaver: not sure about 'do-release'
[07:05] <almoxarife> !do-release
[07:06] <almoxarife> !info do-release
[07:06] <Jordan_U> !dist-upgrade | bobweaver
[07:06] <AlMalaak> well, /dev/sda1 is 50gb and it's boot
[07:06] <bobweaver> I can not seem to get to the bottom of this. If I run dist-upgrade it only runs if like going  from beta to alpha ? woops other way around
[07:06] <AlMalaak> i think /dev/sda2 is 450gb but i want it 400gb
[07:06] <Jordan_U> bobweaver: If you want to upgrade to a new release, see !upgrade.
[07:06] <almoxarife> bobweaver: more like from 12.4 > 12.10
[07:07] <AlMalaak> pvresize --test --setphysicalvolumesize 400G /dev/sda2   /dev/sda2: cannot resize to 12799 extents as later ones are allocated.
[07:07] <NikP> The Christian O' Connel Breakfast Show!!!
[07:07] <dasfgasd> which ubuntu distro is best for a netbook with 1gb ram running on a single core atom processor?
[07:07] <bobweaver> Jordan_U, Nope not sure how the question came about but I was stuck and forums that I read aree all for red hat and what not. So thanks  so it is like runinng     apt-get build-deps but for all packages that are installed ?
[07:08] <Jordan_U> AlMalaak: There is space allocated after 450 GiB into the pv, (which is much after 400 GiB in).
[07:08] <Dr_willis> dasfgasd,  unity works fine on my netbooks. but Lubuntu would be the lightest in resources
[07:08] <Jordan_U> AlMalaak: Please pastebin the output of "sudo pvdisplay /dev/sda2".
[07:08] <AlMalaak> http://pastebin.ca/2268741
[07:08] <AlMalaak> it looks like the space is 9622-13287 is free
[07:08] <dasfgasd> Dr_willis: gnome is too resource heavy for my netbook imho
[07:08] <bobweaver> seems like Each time that I run dist-upgrade it installs a new kernel :/
[07:09] <dasfgasd> unity runs on top of gnome, correct?
[07:09] <Jordan_U> bobweaver: No, apt-get build-dep is for grabbing the build-dependencies of a package, it isn't related to dist-upgrade in any way.
[07:09] <Dr_willis> dasfgasd,  unity is a plugin for compiz thats using gnome3 yes.
[07:09] <dasfgasd> k
[07:09] <AlMalaak> http://pastebin.ca/2268792
[07:09] <AlMalaak>   Physical extent 9622 to 13287:
[07:09] <AlMalaak>     FREE
[07:10] <bobweaver> Jordan_U,  sorry I still dont get it I am dence sometimes can you try to explain a little more. I mean the  bot says that it grabs Deps: that are for packages that are installed or somethingto that fnature
[07:11] <local> dasfgasd: tinylinux, or puppy linux...if you are looking for something small. not sure if you are particular on ubuntu.
[07:11] <dasfgasd> nah, i want ubuntu
[07:12] <dasfgasd> well, if gnome 3 takes advantage of the intel graphics then it should possibly run smoother than lxde or xfce
[07:12] <bobweaver> Jordan_U,  I guess like why are some packages held back untill running dist-upgrade ?  is it like debian with stable expermental ect ?
[07:12] <dasfgasd> i mean
[07:12] <dasfgasd> right?
[07:12] <lesshaste> I just installed quantal and it logs me in without a password. I want to change desktop but I don't get that option. How can I do that?
[07:13] <bobweaver> lesshaste,  users and passwords
[07:13] <lesshaste> bobweaver, is this in a menu?
[07:13] <bobweaver> lesshaste, are you using unity ? or what DE ?
[07:14] <lesshaste> unity I believe.. whatever the default is
[07:14] <lesshaste> I have installed lubuntu-desktop and want to switch to it
[07:14] <bobweaver> lesshaste, you can just tyoe in "user" into the search bar in Unity Dash
[07:15] <lesshaste> bobweaver, ok I see users and groups, for example
[07:15] <Dr_willis> lesshaste,  you can log out and it shoul go to the lightdm login screen
[07:16] <lesshaste> Dr_willis, oh you mean as opposed to restarting?
[07:16] <Dr_willis> you may want to disable the auto-login feature.  also if you plan on changeing back
[07:16] <Dr_willis> lesshaste,  yes... just log out.. ;)
[07:16] <lesshaste> Dr_willis, right.. how do I disable the auto-login feature?
[07:16] <Dr_willis> No idea. I never enable the silly thing. ;P
[07:16] <lesshaste> :)
[07:16] <bobweaver> lesshaste, you need to add a password to user
[07:16] <Dr_willis> I think they should remove the option from the Installer.
[07:16] <AlMalaak> Jordan_U, ?
[07:16] <Jordan_U> bobweaver: Right now Firefox doesn't have "Playing tuxcart" as a standard feature, and so the "firefox" package doesn't depend on the tuxcart package. In the future, if the firefox developers go crazy, they might decide that the next version of Firefox should depend on tuxcart. So if this new version of Firefox that depended on tuxcart were made available in the repositories "apt-get upgrade" would refuse to upgrade you to it, as ...
[07:16] <Jordan_U> ... it would require installation of a new package. Instead you would be stuck with the old pre-tuxcart version of Firefox. Ideally, package dependencies shouldn't change within a stable release, so dist-upgrade should only be needed if you're following the development of an Ubuntu alpha/beta.
[07:17] <AlMalaak> oh i see you were busy:)
[07:17] <Dr_willis> the user still has a password even if its set to auto login i belive.
[07:17] <RangerMauve> Erm. Is there a way to log in as root and edit a file from the command line if I've locked mysef from being able to login on my one account?
[07:17] <Dr_willis> RangerMauve,  recovery mode, single user mode, live cd..
[07:17] <Phoebus> zykotick9, missing a step, not mentioned in any manual. What if the offline systems don't have aptoncd to restore? Not seeing this anywhere, thanks.
[07:17] <RangerMauve> What can I do in recovery mode?
[07:18] <bobweaver> Jordan_U,  thanks a ton that makes 100% sense Thanks a ton
[07:18] <Jordan_U> bobweaver: You're welcome.
[07:18] <Dr_willis> RangerMauve,  or login in as a differnt user, then get a root shell,/fix things  and/or su to the user
[07:18] <RangerMauve> I tried the option that brings up a shell logged in as root, but everything os read only
[07:18] <Dr_willis> thers a menu item/option to remount /  in r/w mode i recall.
[07:18] <RangerMauve> I only have one user, and the logon screen only lets me log in as that
[07:19] <AlMalaak> Jordan_U, did you see my pastebin?
[07:19] <Dr_willis> RangerMauve,  and whats the core of the probolem? how did you  lock yourself out?
[07:19] <RangerMauve> I made it so that when I log in, my PATH fucks up. TT-TT
[07:20] <Jordan_U> !language | RangerMauve
[07:20] <Dr_willis> RangerMauve,  you could login as the user at the console and fix the path befor you do things.. depending onwht you did.
[07:20] <RangerMauve> All because of a stupid mistake when adding an environment variable
[07:20] <kvothetech> RangerMauve: add a 1 to the kernel line on boot it'll boot you to init mode 1 which should dump you in as root
[07:20] <vbgunz> anyone have experience running games in a separate xserver? I am trying that out and Bastion opens up with a smaller resolution (it really appears shrunk) and there is no sound. Anyone know how to address this?
[07:20] <RangerMauve> Sorry for thhlanguage
[07:20] <usr13> RangerMauve: What exactly did you do?
[07:20] <kvothetech> RangerMauve: and $PATH= then export $PATH if you can login at all should fix that
[07:21] <AlMalaak> Jordan_U, sorry to repeat, but did you see my pastebin?
[07:21] <RangerMauve> I changed that one file, acts like .profile
[07:21] <almoxarife> i thought buntu drops you right into a root shell as a grub option
[07:22] <Dr_willis> almoxarife,  it has a recovery item that has some extra features. but can do a root shell also
[07:22] <local> show_names_on_join = OFF
[07:22] <almoxarife> Dr_willis: use my nick again, something happened here, go
[07:23] <Dr_willis> almoxarife,  what if i dont want to... ;P
[07:23] <RangerMauve> Erm, can I log in from grub?
[07:23] <Jordan_U> AlMalaak: Yes. I don't work with LVM very much but it looks like your PV has 14888 Physical Extents ("Total PE              14888") and the logical volume lv_root is using Physical Extents up to extent 14887 ("Physical extent 13288 to 14887"). Since the last extents of the PV are in use, you can't reduce the size of the PV. You probably need to pvmove the logical volume extents around so that the free extents within the PV are at ...
[07:23] <Jordan_U> ... the end.
[07:23] <Dr_willis> grub is a boot loader - you give options to RangerMauve. so no,
[07:23] <almoxarife> Dr_willis: thnks, i thought sound came from speakers while i had buds in, sorry :)
[07:23] <Jordan_U> AlMalaak: And it took a while to write that comment :)
[07:24] <AlMalaak> sorry
[07:24] <AlMalaak> Jordan_U, is there an easy way to pvmove?
[07:24] <Jordan_U> RangerMauve: Boot into recovery mode to get to a root shell.
[07:24] <RangerMauve> It seems that I was giben an option to open a command line at the grub menu when I force shutdown during boot
[07:24] <Dr_willis> RangerMauve,  so either tell us what happens if you try to login at the console. (assuming X is broken) and we can try to fix the issue.
[07:25] <RangerMauve> Jordan_U the consile logs in as read only
[07:25] <Dr_willis> RangerMauve,   the normal console, from a normal login - may let you fix things RangerMauve
[07:25] <Phoebus> !offline
[07:25] <Dr_willis> the recovery mode. has options to remount the OS in read/wriute mode
[07:25] <RangerMauve> I'm on Ubuntu 12.04 so I just go right to Unity's login screen
[07:26] <Dr_willis> RangerMauve,  so ... hit alt-ctrl-f1 and see if you can login at the consoel..
[07:26] <Jordan_U> RangerMauve: mount -o remount,rw /
[07:26] <RangerMauve> The problem is that I can't log in at all at the moment
[07:26] <RangerMauve> Mk
[07:29] <RangerMauve> Oh jesus. So, it seema that the password that I use for sudo, is NOT my root password, and I have no idea what it was. Sounds fun
[07:29] <almoxarife> RangerMauve: never was
[07:29] <Dr_willis> RangerMauve,  you dont login directly as root on ubuntu normally.
[07:30] <Dr_willis> try loging in at the consoel as your user...
[07:30] <RangerMauve> Yeah, but now I can't log in at all.
[07:30] <Dr_willis> what HAPPENS if you try to login at the console?
[07:30] <RangerMauve> Seems my actual user credentials are 'incorrect' somehow
[07:30] <almoxarife> RangerMauve: cntr-alt-f1
[07:31] <RangerMauve> Yeah, I have the console. Are usernames case sensitive or something?
[07:31] <usr13> RangerMauve: yes
[07:31] <almoxarife> RangerMauve: got ask, that your machine?
[07:31] <usr13> RangerMauve: and so is password
[07:31] <Dr_willis> I always use lower case. ;)
[07:32] <flowerpot> Is there a good channel to ask a question about GNU tar?
[07:32] <RangerMauve> It's alive!
[07:32] <Dr_willis> liNuX is NoRmAlY CaSe SeneSetiVe ;)
[07:32] <vbgunz> anyone know why running a game on another xserver causes there to be no sound?
[07:33] <RangerMauve> It is my machine, I just never had to type my username out since I set it up
[07:33] <Dr_willis> vbgunz,  because pulse audio is running on the desktop on the first server perhaps so has a lock on it?
[07:33] <almoxarife> vbgunz: cause xserver is not a sound server
[07:33] <usr13> RangerMauve: Did you have it set to auto-login?
[07:34] <RangerMauve> I'm just the only registered user, so it just prompts for my password
[07:34] <usr13> RangerMauve: Oh ok.
[07:34] <RangerMauve> Now I'm in, but I'll have to prepend /bin to all my commands
[07:34] <vbgunz> I thought it would be simpler, I am having a bit more luck with google too
[07:35] <Dr_willis> RangerMauve,  or set/export a correct path. :)
[07:35] <AlMalaak> pvmove /dev/sda2
[07:35] <AlMalaak>   No extents available for allocation
[07:35] <local> flowerpot: what is your question about tar?
[07:35] <flowerpot> I've been reading the tar manual regarding incremental dumping: http://www.gnu.org/software/tar/manual/html_section/Incremental-Dumps.html#incremental_002dop
[07:35] <flowerpot> The manual says tar will "will delete those files in the file system that did not exist in their directories when the archive was created."  However, I've tested it out, and it doesn't seem to do that - I want to know if the manual is wrong, or if I'm just confused.
[07:36] <RangerMauve> Yeah, I set it to include a directory using ~/.pam_environment
[07:37] <usr13> RangerMauve: See what it's set to now.  $PATH
[07:37] <RangerMauve> Wow... I really messed up
[07:37] <RangerMauve> My path begins with the text "$PATH"
[07:37] <Jordan_U> flowerpot: I can't find that sentence in either "man tar" or "info tar".
[07:38] <flowerpot> Jordan_U, check the webpage I linked, here: http://www.gnu.org/software/tar/manual/html_section/Incremental-Dumps.html#incremental_002dop
[07:38] <Jordan_U> flowerpot: Never mind, I just saw your previous comment :)
[07:39] <RangerMauve> If I delete ~/.pam_environment, would it be safe?
[07:39] <RangerMauve> All I have in there is the stuff I added which borked my path
[07:39] <Jordan_U> flowerpot: Are you using an incremental archive?
[07:40] <Dr_willis> RangerMauve,  just rename the file is the safest way
[07:40] <flowerpot> Jordan_U, yes.   I'lll give you an example of how I'm testing it
[07:40] <RangerMauve> Dr_willis, might as well. Not like it could mess stuff up more
[07:41] <Dr_willis> cant say that ive ever used .pam_enviroment :)
[07:41] <mah454> I need make backup from files ; if file edited from editors . (vim , emacs , nano , ...)
[07:41] <local> flowerpot: from what i understand it i will delete ONLY the directories that were NOT created when the backup was.
[07:41] <mah454> can do this ?
[07:41] <Jordan_U> RangerMauve: Famous last words. Best practice is to just move files.
[07:41] <RangerMauve> That's what the ubuntu site said to use to add environment variables
[07:41] <Jordan_U> RangerMauve: (and then delete after you're sure you don't need it).
[07:41] <Dr_willis> mah454,  clarify what you mean. Most text editors have a auto-make backup files feature.
[07:42] <local> flowerpot: anything after the creation date will be purged.
[07:42] <RangerMauve> Jordan_U, to be fair, the only text in there was written by me
[07:42] <Dr_willis> RangerMauve,  cant say ive Ever seen it mentioned to put env variables in there. but im old skool. I set mine in the various .bashrc* files
[07:43] <Dr_willis> theres a line in one of the bash files to set your path if you want. ;)
[07:43] <RangerMauve> Honestly, I'm glad I didn't make it a global change
[07:44] <AlMalaak> Jordan_U, my win8 DVD doesn't even work, so im going to put the lvm back the way it was
[07:44] <AlMalaak> can you tell me something?
[07:44] <AlMalaak> lvresize -l +100%FREE should i do this first then resize2fs?
[07:45] <Dr_willis> RangerMauve,  http://askubuntu.com/questions/4667/where-to-declare-environment-variables   seems to mention issues with setting the path in .pam_enviroment
[07:46] <RangerMauve> Buh
[07:46] <jiltdilfr> I have dual boot window and ubuntu.. But i have no right to modify  or delete files of window after logging in window. is there any way to change permisons on window drive using ubuntu
[07:46] <Dr_willis> jiltdilfr,  mount the windows filesystems with the proper options. andthe users can have full access to the files
[07:47] <Dr_willis> Ive used ntfs-config in the past to automate the settings. but not sure if its still a valid tool. its been sortof a flakey tweak type tool laast few releases.
[07:47] <Jordan_U> AlMalaak: AlMalaak +100% means to resize it to twice the current size of the logical volume.
[07:48] <vbgunz> if anyone is curious of getting sound while in a new xserver, add yourself to the audio group and reboot. I now have sound in my games when launched on a new xserver
[07:48] <Dr_willis> makes me wonder how you had sound on the oroginal server without being in that group.
[07:48] <Dr_willis> ;)
[07:48] <AlMalaak> well, im just trying to put it back the size it was, or take up 100% of the available space
[07:48] <Jordan_U> AlMalaak: +100%PVS is probably what you want, which means to add to the size of the logical volume 100% of the available free space.
[07:49] <Dr_willis> bbl.
[07:49] <AlMalaak> ok with resize or extend?
[07:49] <vbgunz> I wasn't but I had sound. I found a post about adding yourself to the audio group and I tried it out, rebooted, etc. Yup, I have sound and it is good :)
[07:49] <AlMalaak> lvresize or lvextend?
[07:49] <AlMalaak> lvextend -l +100%PVS?
[07:50] <jiltdilfr> Dr_willis : But after changing permisons i want  if i was login in windows then the windows drive have full permisson
[07:50] <RangerMauve> Woot! I'm back in. Thanks for the help, guys!
[07:53] <Jordan_U> AlMalaak: That looks good, but 1: I don't work with LVM much and 2: I'm fairly tired at the moment, so make your own judgement :)
[07:53] <AlMalaak> well, the only thing is, i resized one part of the lvm, the home part
[07:53] <AlMalaak> and now when i do 100%
[07:53] <AlMalaak> i say
[07:54] <AlMalaak> lvextend -l 100%PVS /dev/vga_laptop/vg-home
[07:54] <AlMalaak> and it says
[07:54] <AlMalaak> 55136 extends needed, only 3666 available
[07:54] <AlMalaak> 5513 extends needed, only 3666 available
[07:54] <AlMalaak> it seems to be trying to increase it to the full 465gb, but that's the size of the entire /dev/sda2
[07:54] <AlMalaak> not vg-home
[07:56] <flowerpot> Jordan_U, local: check this paste out
[07:56] <flowerpot> http://pastebin.com/Rs3BNK7L
[07:56] <RangerMauve> So, may I ask what the proper or at least, more foolproof way of adding and changing environment variables would be?
[07:57] <flowerpot> My understanding is that the behavior shown there is not the same as what the GNU website says: http://www.gnu.org/software/tar/manual/html_section/Incremental-Dumps.html#SEC94
[07:57] <flowerpot> My version of tar is 1.26, which is the version for which that HTML manual was written
[07:58] <AlMalaak> i have 3666 free PE
[07:58] <local> flowerpot: may i ask what you're trying to do with tar?
[07:58] <AlMalaak> how do i add 3666 extents to an lvm?
[07:58] <flowerpot> local, create incremental backups of my home folder
[07:58] <flowerpot> I want to make sure I understand the incremental backup behavior correctly, so I don't accidentally do bad things
[07:59] <flowerpot> I basically just want to know if you guys agree that the behavior in that pastebin contradicts what the manual says.
[07:59] <AlMalaak> Jordan_U, i did lvextend -l +3666
[08:00] <AlMalaak> so now there are no more free extents
[08:00] <AlMalaak> so now i do resize2fs, right?
[08:03] <inhies> is anyone aware of a google talk client that will load conversation history like teh officail one does?
[08:03] <AlMalaak> got it, thanks
[08:04] <inhies> all 3rd party ones seem unable to do that and I wonder if only the official google one has that capability :(
[08:04] <usr13> flowerpot: You could just make separate files and delete old ones as need be.
[08:04] <local> flowerpot: still trying to load those pages...my connection is spotty.
[08:04] <usr13> tar czf backup-`date +%Y-%m-%d`.tar.gz /path/to/directory/to/back/up
[08:05] <usr13> ... will create backup-2012-03-11.tar.gz and then backup-2012-04-11.tar.gz etc...
[08:06] <usr13> No, thats wrong.
[08:07] <usr13> ... will create backup-2012-11-03.tar.gz and then backup-2012-11-04.tar.gz etc...
[08:17] <jiltdil> How to install s/w through terminal?
[08:17] <flowerpot> usr13, I could, but each file would be about 500 MB; I'd rather avoid that
[08:17] <RONNCC> does the usb for lubuntu persistant dirive need to be > 4gb?
[08:18] <moon`> so I did a clean install of 12.10, it detected earlier versions of gentoo and ubuntu but did a full wipe and reinstall.  When the computer boots up I get dumped into a grub rescue prompt
[08:18] <moon`> not familiar enough with linux to do anything from there
[08:22] <flowerpot> Jordan_U, local, usr13: on the plus side...I might not really need to do incremental backup.  It's cool, but probably overkill for backing up my home directory.  If I create a tar file on a regular basis of my entire home directory, and store it in Amazon S3 (deleting the previous ones as I go), then it won't really cost me any more than storing one tar archive in S3 over the entire length of time...
[08:24] <Jordan_U> moon`: Do you have more than one hard drive?
[08:24] <moon`> I have 2 yes
[08:24] <moon`> currently using/looking at this as a solution https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[08:25] <Jordan_U> moon`: Grub's boot sector was probably installed to a different drive than the one you're booting from. Try changing the boot order in your BIOS.
[08:25] <moon`> Jordan_U: Well that makes perfect sense...  Good call, I bet you're right.  Been awhile since I've plinked on the ole desktop
[08:25] <moon`> thanks
[08:26] <Jordan_U> moon`: You're welcome. Once you're booted into Ubuntu you can run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc" and configure the grub-pc package to always install grub's boot sector to both drives, that way BIOS boot priority doesn't matter.
[08:27] <daniel__> How do I prevent my IP from being shown?
[08:28] <Jordan_U> !cloak | dannib_
[08:28] <Jordan_U> dannib_: Sorry, mistab.
[08:32] <local> flowerpot: have you tried deja dup? looks like a gui solution.
[08:33] <flowerpot> i have not...ill have to look at it
[08:34] <joey8> lucky backup is really great too
[08:36] <SpaceRocket> is there a tool for converting CSV to text?
[08:37] <joey8> SpaceRocket:  csv files are formatted text files
[08:37] <joey8> SpaceRocket: open your csv file with a text editor
[08:38] <joey8> SpaceRocket: mmm i may be slightly mistaken -, try exporting the csv file as a text file
[08:38] <cnf> sigh
[08:39] <cnf> silly kde package manager is borked
[08:39] <shinao1> Hi I'm using 12.10 but i have a problem that's been nagging since 11.04.. please whats the best way to migrate from evolution to sylpheed/claws/balsa ? Im going out of my mind here and I have a lot of email in evolution. A LOT.
[08:39] <cnf> can't install shit anymore
[08:39] <joey8> is that shit v1 or shit v2
[08:40] <nilsding> good morning everyone
[08:40] <ikonia> tone down the language please.
[08:40] <cnf> joey8: either!
[08:40] <ikonia> there is no need for that language
[08:40] <nilsding> a friend of mine recently got Ubuntu and he can't get his wifi drivers working
[08:40]  * joey8 sighs
[08:41] <nilsding> it's an intel wifi one..
[08:41] <blazemore> cnf: Have you tried opening a terminal and running "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -f install"
[08:41] <blazemore> nilsding: Can he get on the Internet another way, such as with a cable?
[08:41] <Kriminel> can anyone direct me to a tutorial on how to set an image based GUI for grub? i'm dual booting ubuntu 12.4.3 and windows 8
[08:41] <blazemore> Kriminel: Do you mean "image" as in "picture" ?
[08:41] <cnf> blazemore: sure, does nothing
[08:42] <nilsding> blazemore: not now
[08:42] <blazemore> cnf: You may have to be more specific with your question then
[08:42] <blazemore> rather than "is borked... can't install [redacted]"
[08:42] <Kriminel> blazemore yes, i've seen some amazing grub screenshots where it displayed the ubuntu, windows 7 and even QNX logos instead of the text interface i have now
[08:42] <cnf> blazemore: it can't elevate privs
[08:42] <blazemore> Kriminel: That's called "BURG", take a look at it
[08:42] <nilsding> he has downloaded a iwlwifi-5000-ucode-8.83,5.1.1.tar.gz
[08:42] <Kriminel> blazemore thank you, will google it now
[08:42] <blazemore> nilsding: What wifi chipset does he have?
[08:43] <blazemore> Why do you think that's the right one to download?
[08:43] <cnf> "operation can not continue as proper authorization was no provided" stuff
[08:43] <cnf> not*
[08:43] <blazemore> cnf: try #kubuntu
[08:44]  * cnf facepalms
[08:44] <nilsding> I guess it's "0c:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY (rev 01)
[08:44] <local> flowerpot: what are the contents of the .snar?
[08:44] <nilsding> at least it's what lspci says
[08:44] <noobie432> hey guys, when on a shell, what do call the word after the @ sign (example here: "ubuntu") on "john@ubuntu:" Is it the name of the computer?
[08:45] <blazemore> nilsding: Then that Intel one won't be much good. What version of Ubuntu is he running?
[08:45] <jussi> noobie432: yes, hostname
[08:45] <noobie432> jussi: thanks...
[08:45] <nilsding> the latest
[08:46] <blazemore> noobie432: It would be really useful if he could plug it in via ethernet and get a connection that way
[08:46] <blazemore> nilsding: ^
[08:46] <blazemore> sorry noobie432
[08:46] <noobie432> :)
[08:46] <blazemore> nilsding: Then he could run sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-lpphy-installer
[08:47] <flowerpot> local, it's explained on the page I linked - it's a metadata file that allows tar to help determine which files have been changed, added or deleted since the last backup
[08:47] <nilsding> blazemore, I will try, thanks
[08:47] <nilsding> i'll try to give him my mobile connection
[08:47] <nilsding> brb
[08:49] <noobie432> i'm trying out a turnkeylinux+tomcat and i'm using the webshell... the prompt is root@tomcat ~# . Lol, i was trying to figure out why the shell is "executing on tomcat" instead of the core... Turns out it's just the name given fo the distro...
[08:51] <iceroot> noobie432: which is offtopic here
[08:53] <nilsding> Thank you blazemore, it worked :)
[09:05] <dzup> i got this error in precise when trying to get a .py running ImportError: No module named pyexpat any ideas?
[09:07] <ikonia> dzup: find the module it wants, check if it's installed
[09:08] <vbgunz> does anyone know why I cannot adjust the resolution of some games *when* I start them in a new xserver?
[09:09] <dzup> ikonia, i try but can not fount in py 2.7
[09:09] <ikonia> vbgunz: how / why are you starting them in a new x server
[09:09] <dzup> found*
[09:09] <ikonia> dzup: which module is it looking for ?
[09:09] <greenit> hi, i have set up ubuntu server 12.04 and installed unity-greeter, lxde, gnome-shell and xrdp... however, i can't remotely log in via xrdp.. can you help me plz?
[09:09] <dzup> pyexpat
[09:09] <ikonia> dzup: so is that part of the default ubuntu python install ?
[09:09] <dzup> ImportError: No module named pyexpat
[09:09] <dzup>  ikonia  ...you have that in your precise 64bits?
[09:10] <ikonia> dzup: that's not what I asked
[09:10] <local> flowerpot: line 24 is missing -g specifyin either the .snar or /dev/null for level 0
[09:10] <ikonia> dzup: I asked is that present in the default ubuntu python install
[09:10] <ikonia> have you checked if the module is actaully there
[09:10] <dzup> ikonia, idk
[09:10] <almoxarife> greenit: same issue here,
[09:10] <dzup> ikonia, what folder is that at?
[09:11] <vbgunz> ikonia: I was reading an arch wiki page about performance and one of the tips was starting a game in a new xserver. I can launch many if not all games, even steam big picture, etc on a new xserver *but* Bastion does not allow me to adjust the resolution and theres just something plain wrong with it understanding full screen
[09:11] <shinao1> Hi I'm using 12.10 but i have a problem that's been nagging since 11.04.. please whats the best way to migrate from evolution to sylpheed/claws/balsa ? Im going out of my mind here and I have a lot of email in evolution. A LOT.
[09:11] <ikonia> vbgunz: ok, so there is your answer....it's that one game/application
[09:11] <ikonia> I don't see why launcing something in a seperate x server would give any performance increase
[09:11] <ikonia> dzup: no idea, you'd need to check
[09:12] <vbgunz> no there is no answer. the game allows you to change resolution just not in a new xserver. I got to be missing something, not sure what it is
[09:12] <ikonia> vbgunz: so others work, but this one won't.....that suggests this program is the problem
[09:12] <ikonia> or requires a specific method
[09:13] <dzup> ikonia, am using easy_install , i check http://pypi.python.org/simple/ but its not there, but expat must be in every default install or may precise not including this anymore?
[09:13] <vbgunz> I need to know what it could be. I'm googling the issue but I am left with no ideas. It works perfect if I run it now in the current running xserver but using a new xserver and it acts weird when it shouldn't. I'm missing something
[09:13] <ikonia> dzup: I have no idea what "easy_install" is so can't comment
[09:14] <ikonia> vbgunz: it may not support it,
[09:14] <dzup> ikonia, thank you.
[09:21] <dzup> ikonia, its weird  ls /usr/lib/python2.7/lib-dynload/pyexpat.so
[09:21] <dzup> /usr/lib/python2.7/lib-dynload/pyexpat.so its there :(
[09:22] <greenit> i installed x11vnc now, but when i want to connect, it refuses.. how can i fix this?
[09:27] <shinao1> no answer? any help?
[09:27] <ikonia> shinao1: what format are you storing your mail in ?
[09:27] <ikonia> shinao1: I'm assuming it's mail you want to migrate
[09:28] <shinao1> yes its my mail
[09:28] <dzup> i solved! rm -rf uperharvest  <--that script just dont work here, soo byebye xD
[09:28] <shinao1> im not sure what format... i think its maildir
[09:28] <ikonia> shinao1: that suggests it's an imap mail server
[09:28] <shinao1> but when i tried to export as mbox it grew to about 30GB before i stopped it
[09:28] <shinao1> no evolution the email client
[09:29] <ikonia> yes, but the mail server you connect to, is that an imap server
[09:29] <ikonia> (it sounds like it is if it's maildir)
[09:30] <skiy1337> I'm having trouble getting Orca running.
[09:30] <flowerpot> local: thank you.  Turns out GNU was right and I was wrong.  In line 20 and 24, I forgot to add the -G flag (equivalent to --increment, also equivalent to --list-increment=/dev/null)
[09:30] <skiy1337> I did 'apt-get install orca', but it did not include a speech synthesizer.
[09:30] <skiy1337> What's the point?
[09:30] <flowerpot> Once I did that, the test went as expected (tmpfile and tmpsubdir are deleted by tar when restoring from the tmpdir.1.tar archive)
[09:32] <skiy1337> There isn't a "Suggests:" under apt-cache show gnome-orca, either.
[09:32] <skiy1337> So I'm really in the dark here.
[09:33] <thunder1212> hi
[09:34] <thunder1212> how do i block torrents download?
[09:35] <Ben64> thunder1212: what do you mean
[09:35] <skiy1337> thunder 1212, Router's usually have firewalls.
[09:36] <skiy1337> Just leave 80,21,110 open.
[09:36] <thunder1212> Ben64, skiy1337 and if th router doesn't have a firewall then
[09:36] <Ben64> it's pretty hard to block torrents, even with a firewall
[09:37] <skiy1337> The only other way I know, is to install a server computer in front of your router.
[09:37] <skiy1337> But that's very difficult.
[09:38] <thunder1212> Ben64, skiy1337 , i have a router which is wifi enabled and it is secured with a pre shared key,
[09:39] <Ben64> who's torrenting are you trying to block?
[09:39] <shinao1> ikonia: are you suggesting i pipe it through some imap server? im confused
[09:39] <thunder1212> Ben64, skiy1337 , and 3to 4 people connect via there laptops.. now one of them is using torrents and keeps on downloading
[09:40] <thunder1212> Ben64, skiy1337 , so we end up with a very slow connection
[09:40] <Ben64> thunder1212: then tell them to stop :|
[09:40] <navik> anyone know the command of launching ubuntus printer setup utility? Currently not using ubuntu unity...
[09:40] <skiy1337> thunder1212, I think all routers have firewalls.
[09:41] <ikonia> shinao1: I'm asking you a simple question - not telling you to do anything
[09:41] <ikonia> shinao1: is the mail server your client connects to an imap server ?
[09:41] <skiy1337> thunder1212, I can guide you through it.
[09:42] <shinao1> i have no mail server.. its the collected email in the evolution that i want to move into another email client
[09:42] <shinao1> its on my laptop
[09:42] <riply> @shinao1 are you POPing that email off of a server, or using IMAP?
[09:43] <shinao1> POPing
[09:43] <shinao1> fully poped
[09:43] <riply> @shinao1, then you should be able to just copy/paste the data from evolution
[09:43] <thunder1212> Ben64, skiy1337 , som info on my router..http://screenshots.portforward.com/Flextronics/DNA-A211-I/
[09:44] <riply> check this thread out> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1760469
[09:44] <shinao1> uh... have you seen the format? and the number of folders?
[09:44] <TomGreentimes2> okay, i have questions here, well 1, but i dont want to be told to "upgrade" to 12.04 or 12.10, both of these suddenly had my sound stop working for absolutely no reason on 2 sound cards
[09:44] <Ben64> thunder1212: really doesn't seem like a ubuntu issue, you might want to try #networking or something
[09:44] <riply> @shinao, it doesn't matter the 'format' or # of folders.
[09:45] <TomGreentimes2> i need libc6 2.15 because avidemux 2.5.6 wants that and also 2.6, so i upgraded the kernel to 3.2 thinking it would somehow widen my library, or like maybe, make it safe to replace libc6 2.13 by 2.15
[09:45] <TomGreentimes2> so what do you guys say about that ? opinions appreciated
[09:45] <Ben64> TomGreentimes2: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[09:45] <TomGreentimes2> 11.10
[09:46] <gordonjcp> TomGreentimes2: you need to upgrade to 12.04 at least
[09:46] <skiy1337> thunder1212, This is the one: http://screenshots.portforward.com/Flextronics/DNA-A211-I/Outgoing_IP_Filtering.htm
[09:46] <gordonjcp> 11.10 is no longer supported
[09:46] <TomGreentimes2> well, no, 12.04 does not agree with my hardware
[09:46] <gordonjcp> TomGreentimes2: rubbish
[09:46] <TomGreentimes2> i thought it was supported until august next year...at least patch-wise..
[09:46] <Ben64> gordonjcp: 11.10 is actually still good till April
[09:46] <thunder1212> Ben64, ok but still plz help : )
[09:46] <TomGreentimes2> i tried both buddy, and both gave me the very well documented
[09:46] <TomGreentimes2> SOUND OF SILENCE BUG
[09:46] <gordonjcp> Ben64: okay, so a couple of months
[09:47] <Ben64> unfortunately, we can't support 11.10 with 3.2 kernel or anything like that
[09:47] <TomGreentimes2> 12.10 caused it even faster
[09:47] <thunder1212> skiy1337, ok wait i'll go through it
[09:47] <Ben64> thunder1212: this is for Ubuntu only
[09:47] <gordonjcp> TomGreentimes2: are you using some deeply weird hardware?
[09:47] <TomGreentimes2> im not here to discuss this
[09:47] <TomGreentimes2> i want to know if it is dangerous to upgrade my libc6 to 2.15 from 2.13, i know it is a very core important package
[09:47] <gordonjcp> well, the solution is to upgrade from the version you're currently using, which is going to go out of support soon anyway
[09:47] <skiy1337> thunder1212, join #networking with me
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[09:48] <gordonjcp> TomGreentimes2: yes, extremely
[09:48] <Ben64> TomGreentimes2: it'd probably be easier to upgrade to 12.04 than to go compiling everything to a recent version
[09:48] <TomGreentimes2> but i managed to bring the kernel to 3.2 and i was told it was the path to follow if i wanted to get that libc6
[09:48] <TomGreentimes2> ..
[09:48] <gordonjcp> TomGreentimes2: it might work, it might not, but what's far more likely is you'll get all manner of weird behaviour
[09:48] <TomGreentimes2> i had 12.04 for 2 months, sound crapped on me, 12.10, sound crapped on me even faster
[09:48] <TomGreentimes2> google around guys
[09:49] <TomGreentimes2> many people find themselves with no sound whatosever after some time
[09:49] <TomGreentimes2> its documented
[09:49] <Ben64> then fix that issue instead of causing a ton more by trying to upgrade 11.10 with newer versions of things
[09:49] <TomGreentimes2> alsa-utils doesnt have anything weird in it either, i followed all the guides until i brought back 11.10
[09:50] <TomGreentimes2> well, actually, you know what, i used to have avidemux 2.6 on backtrack 5R2, and thats kernel 3.2 but ubuntu 10.04
[09:50] <TomGreentimes2> makes you think ;)
[09:51] <TomGreentimes2> well
[09:52] <TomGreentimes2> i only have a little second question then, i'm sure you will be able to help out easily here
[09:52] <TomGreentimes2> since im about to do something risky..is there anything close to windows's system restore
[09:52] <TomGreentimes2> for ubuntu
[09:52] <riply> TomGreentimes2, you can ghost your HDD?
[09:53] <rumpe1> TomGreentimes2, btrfs can do snapshots
[09:53] <TomGreentimes2> btrfs eh
[09:53]  * TomGreentimes2 searches
[09:53] <Ben64> that won't help
[09:53] <Ben64> dd if=<boot partition> of=<somewhere to store backup>
[09:54] <Ben64> from a boot cd or something
[09:54] <TomGreentimes2> i only know the name of one program doing this well, and its a windows program, it used to do ext3/4 partitions in the past but i wouldnt know anymore these days, but its their only good product ever, norton ghost that is
[09:54] <riply> TomGreentimes2, dd is an app that copies your HDD image
[09:54] <TomGreentimes2> i know what dd is
[09:54] <TomGreentimes2> its a unix native command there since forever
[09:54] <rumpe1> TomGreentimes2, taking snapshots takes less than a seconds and you could boot into any of them after that
[09:55] <riply> TomGreentimes2, okay cool, then you're sorted as long as you can live with bouncing the box?
[09:55] <TomGreentimes2> see, the thing im not new to linux, but i havent touche it for 5 years until i got back some interest in having a dual bootin pc again
[09:55] <rumpe1> TomGreentimes2, (or make a backup of one of the snapshots without having to boot a different OS/live media)
[09:55] <Ben64> TomGreentimes2: you really should just get 12.04 working, much less hassle
[09:56] <TomGreentimes2> i have 2 external drives of 500gb, but with just 60mb left of space
[09:56] <TomGreentimes2> Ben64
[09:56] <riply> I agree with Ben64, soon you're going to have all sorts of issues when it's properly nonLTS
[09:56] <TomGreentimes2> i will gladly get back on 12.04 or even 12.10, when
[09:56] <TomGreentimes2> a) the sound issue is corrected
[09:56] <TomGreentimes2> b) 11.10 is no longer supported/given patches to
[09:57] <TomGreentimes2> so, right now this very non productive to talk about
[09:57] <Ben64> no, what you're doing is non productive
[09:57] <clarezoe> Hi, I have two "online accounts" in my settings, is that normal? I'm in ubuntu 12.10
[09:58] <TomGreentimes2> okay so i just read that if i was to upgrade my libc6 2.13 to 2.15, it would say 2.15 causes prolbems to 2.13, and if you try to remove 2.13 first its gonna try to remove 99% of your apps
[09:58] <TomGreentimes2> so you cant do it
[09:58] <clarezoe> my google talk is not working, it sais it needs authorisation but I cannot find where to set the authorisation
[09:58] <TomGreentimes2> but i'm gonna do a backup before going to bed indeed, dont want to do something hastefuly when id idnt have enough sleep
[09:59] <Ben64> sound is much easier to fix than a mangled system
[10:00] <media-centre> hey is anyones wireless screwing up
[10:00] <Ben64> !anyone | media-centre
[10:01] <media-centre> yes or no
[10:01] <media-centre> is anybodys wireless screwing up
[10:02] <Ben64> ask a real question
[10:02] <et_> i was going to say
[10:02] <et_> i just talked to your mom
[10:02] <cfhowlett> !anyone|media-centre:
[10:02] <pbt> !topic
[10:02] <TomGreentimes2> 59:27] <Ben64> sound is much easier to fix than a mangled system
[10:02] <Woosta> Hi. I've always add a respawn line to inittab, but now it's gone does anyone have a quick way to do the same in upstart without learning everything about upstart?
[10:02] <et_> and she is having wireless probs too
[10:02] <et_> lol
[10:02] <TomGreentimes2> the sound problem on 12.04 and 12.10 affecting certain people hasnt been solved yet
[10:02] <fhspenom3> Hello! My young brother delete grub folder, and boot from nautillus with ROOT!!! privilages :( i forgot to close.. what i do now???
[10:03] <TomGreentimes2> just google it ffs
[10:03] <media-centre> why are you guys being smart asses
[10:03] <media-centre> simple question
[10:03] <et_> but ill come over and fix that... and maybe give you a spanking
[10:03] <media-centre> simple answer
[10:03] <et_> at the same time
[10:03] <et_> or cut your allowance
[10:03] <media-centre> how hard can it be
[10:03] <Ben64> TomGreentimes2: theres results for "sound problem" on every single ubuntu release
[10:03] <TomGreentimes2> https://www.google.ca/search?sclient=psy-ab&hl=en&tbo=d&site=&source=hp&q=sound+stopped+working+ubuntu+12.10+12.04&btnG=Search
[10:03] <et_> umm
[10:03] <Ben64> et_: please don't
[10:03] <cfhowlett> fhspenom3: reboot from live cd and attempt grub install from there
[10:03] <et_> okay
[10:03] <TomGreentimes2> yeah
[10:03] <et_> lets srs up
[10:03] <TomGreentimes2> but right now thats a non solved issue
[10:03] <et_> to be truthful
[10:04] <TomGreentimes2> usually i always find a very obscure way to fix things :3
[10:04] <et_> that was a dumb question
[10:04] <TomGreentimes2> but this time there wasnt
[10:04] <et_> and you werent specific
[10:04] <TomGreentimes2> i'll just use 11.10 until it stop getting upgrades
[10:04] <TomGreentimes2> deal.with.it
[10:04] <fhspenom3> cfhowlett, thanks, i do that
[10:04] <Ben64> TomGreentimes2: "Ditto here. Sounds was randomly cutting out, and this fixed it. – Just a guy Oct 25 at 2:53"
[10:04] <Ben64> looks like its solved, oh happy day
[10:04] <TomGreentimes2> yeah
[10:04] <cfhowlett> fhspenom3: good luck
[10:04] <TomGreentimes2> and then i did exctly what this thread says
[10:04] <TomGreentimes2> and it didnt work
[10:04] <et_> ya know
[10:04] <media-centre> so is anyone gonna answer my question
[10:04] <TomGreentimes2> and other people say it doesnt work
[10:04] <et_> reverting isnt a bad idea
[10:04] <TomGreentimes2> anyway, i cant convince you
[10:04] <Ben64> TomGreentimes2: how about you come back in here with 12.04 and we can fix it
[10:05] <TomGreentimes2> :)
[10:05] <et_> i have a question
[10:05] <TomGreentimes2> No
[10:05] <Ben64> then... bye
[10:05] <media-centre> well
[10:06] <et_> now with 12.10 if you pick install 3rd party and also update on the installation... will that just auto install the nvidia drivers.. and i cant get dual monitors to work...
[10:06] <media-centre> none of you arre gonna answer my question then
[10:06] <Woosta> Anyone help with my upstart question?
[10:06] <Ben64> media-centre: ask a real question
[10:06] <TomGreentimes2> 11.10 still supported means, you dont have to help me, but it is legitimate hat i can come here and sk around
[10:06] <et_> yes media
[10:06] <et_> i will
[10:06] <media-centre> it is
[10:06] <et_> no
[10:06] <Ben64> TomGreentimes2: your 11.10 is not supported here
[10:06] <et_> i am not having probs
[10:06] <et_> at all
[10:06] <FloodBot1> et_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:07] <et_> with wireless
[10:07] <media-centre> is your wirless sqrewing up
[10:07] <acerimmer_> media-centre: no.  next question.
[10:07] <media-centre> weather it is will determin if its my pc or somthing else
[10:07] <acerimmer_> media-centre: oooor you could actually provide some details
[10:08] <media-centre> my wireless is doing tth following
[10:08] <Ben64> media-centre: listen to arnold j rimmer over here, you should provide details on what problems you may be having, our experiences with wireless do not affect you
[10:08] <media-centre> connecting disconnecting
[10:08] <media-centre> takking time loading websites
[10:08] <et_> cuz if i pick software sources
[10:08] <et_> for nivida
[10:08] <TomGreentimes2> http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/amd64/libc6/download
[10:08] <et_> its lame
[10:09] <et_> i dont even get a dt hardly
[10:09] <media-centre> and not connecting at all
[10:09] <TomGreentimes2> im gonna try and install this, and if it turns out that it says it will delete 99% of my apps
[10:09] <et_> for some reason i dont even show restricted drivers
[10:09] <et_> and i miss hat
[10:09] <TomGreentimes2> well, upgrading kernel is never sueful kids
[10:09] <et_> that
[10:09] <media-centre> im only thinking its either my computers going down
[10:09] <et_>  media
[10:09] <Ben64> !enter | et_
[10:10] <et_> you shouldnt have to mess with kernal
[10:10] <media-centre> or their doing maintinence work on the outside cables
[10:10] <et_> to fix that
[10:10] <et_> and you are on the wrong path to solution
[10:10] <Ben64> et_: so are you running nvidia's drivers or not?
[10:10] <et_> it has not much to do with that
[10:10] <media-centre> or its that 4tg crap blocking signals
[10:10] <codfather> Hi, can someone help me with a question on the latest dnsmasq config in Ubuntu 12.10.
[10:10] <TomGreentimes2> hahaha
[10:10]  * joey8 sighs with all this DONT DO THIS and DONT DO THAT
[10:10] <et_> ben64
[10:10] <media-centre> is that enough details for you
[10:10] <TomGreentimes2> it does not even cause a single problem
[10:11] <media-centre> can you answer my question now
[10:11] <et_> ben64 i just installed 12.10 non lts
[10:11] <TomGreentimes2> you heard that ben :p
[10:11] <et_> and to be honest
[10:11] <TomGreentimes2> libc6 2.15 is installing, no warnings of any conflicts possible, it just installs,   i win the prize
[10:11] <et_> thats something i should check
[10:11] <et_> i have a feeling its not
[10:11] <et_> but it might be
[10:12] <et_> what is cmd to check
[10:12] <Ben64> et_: come on, use more commas and less enters. try "nvidia-settings"
[10:12] <media-centre> but none of you want to answer
[10:12] <et_> ohh when i install nvidia-settings it gives me a wonky error
[10:13] <yellowdog> I tried ubuntu 12.10 using virtualbox yesterday. I love it! It's very good!
[10:13] <media-centre> cos youd rather be a bunch of smart asses
[10:13] <acerimmer_> media-centre: maybe not the best way to get help from volunteers ...
[10:13] <Ben64> media-centre: it's a stupid question with no relevance
[10:13] <codfather> With 12.04 dnasmasq would writeo out what was in /etc/resolv.conf into /var/run/nm-dns-dnsmasq.conf - but this has now been moved to management with dbus, and I can't find out where.
[10:13] <media-centre> well its one simple question
[10:14] <codfather> Just a pointer to docs or a site that explains the current set-up would be great.
[10:14] <joey8> media-centre: good way of getting a response
[10:14] <media-centre> is anyones wirless screwing up
[10:14] <Ben64> et_: how about "dpkg --get-selections | grep -i nvidia"
[10:14] <media-centre> i told you why
[10:14] <Ben64> media-centre: stop
[10:14] <acerimmer_> media-centre: asked and answered
[10:14] <et_> it says
[10:15] <media-centre> yes or no
[10:15] <acerimmer_> media-centre: no.  next.
[10:15] <et_> you do not appear to be using nvidia x driver.. blah blah edit this x config file
[10:15] <media-centre> and if it is what are you on bt virgin talk tak
[10:15] <media-centre> right
[10:15] <et_> but i think it migt be more of an xorg issue
[10:15] <et_> than driver
[10:15] <media-centre> what provider are you on
[10:16] <media-centre> bt
[10:16] <et_> or os oriented
[10:16] <Ben64> et_: could you pastebin the response to the last thing i asked you to run?
[10:16] <et_> sure
[10:16] <Ben64> media-centre: you might want to call your isp. we're not here to troubleshoot your connection
[10:16] <gordonjcp> media-centre: your ISP won't make any difference to whether or not your wifi works
[10:17] <et_> its soo small i wont even pb it
[10:17] <Jordan_U> media-centre: Taking polls about poeple's internet connection, in an international IRC channel, is not going to be very affective and will generate a lot of unhelpfull clutter in this busy channel. Please stop, and please be respectfull of others in this channel.
[10:17] <media-centre> well ive connected to my modem before and i couldnt access websites because of maintenence out side
[10:17] <et_> nvidia-current-updates				deinstall
[10:17] <et_> nvidia-settings					install
[10:18] <gordonjcp> media-centre: so contact your ISP if you have a fault
[10:18] <gordonjcp> media-centre: it's got nothing to do with Ubuntu
[10:18] <et_> that was the response
[10:18] <Ben64> et_: try "sudo apt-get install nvidia-current" and then reboot. after that you should have functioning nvidia drivers
[10:18] <media-centre> wel ubuntu uses tthe internet
[10:18] <et_> hmm
[10:18] <et_> okay roger that
[10:19] <media-centre> and it is famous for its servers
[10:19] <et_> i think i did that before but will try again
[10:19] <Ben64> et_: if apt prints an error then rebooting is unnecessary :)
[10:19] <acerimmer_> media-centre: try the solution provided.
[10:19] <media-centre> i probably will
[10:19] <nmlj> someone had installed windows 8 and ubuntu in machine?i have question
[10:19] <media-centre> i just figure 4g comingg ut it might of been that
[10:19] <Jordan_U> !anyone | nmlj
[10:20] <et_> nah it seems to be working from what i see in term...
[10:20] <joey8> HEY GUYS - what is this stuff, i have just installed linux- can someone teach me linux - quick - urgent - like respond now man - geeze
[10:20] <et_> brb gonna reboot
[10:20] <nmlj> sorry about my bad english :(
[10:20] <auronandace> !manual | joey8
[10:20] <media-centre> thanx for the advice
[10:21] <media-centre> despit it taking a while
[10:21] <media-centre> despite*
[10:21] <media-centre> curse this keyboard
[10:21] <nmlj> does anyone had browse windows 8 drive with ubuntu live cd?
[10:21] <Jordan_U> nmlj: What problem are you having?
[10:22] <codfather> Hello, did anyone see my question? Can anyone see my posts?
[10:22] <cfhowlett> codfather: yes we see you.
[10:22] <codfather> cool, just wanted to check
[10:22] <cfhowlett> @patience|codfather:
[10:22] <Jordan_U> codfather: Yes, we can see your question. If nobody knows the answer to your question, nobody will answer. Try asking again in a few minutes.
[10:23] <nmlj> i want ask, it still able to browse windows 8 drive with ubuntu live cd?
[10:23] <Jordan_U> nmlj: Yes.
[10:23] <henkpoley> Does Linux have something like Darwin's Fusion Drive ? Where a files are written to an SSD and unused files spill over to a slower spinning disk.
[10:24] <cfhowlett> nmlj: don't see why not
[10:24] <nmlj> Ok thanks Jordan_U :)
[10:25] <Jordan_U> henkpoley: btrfs is developing hot tracking, I believe that xfs already has some ability to do similar things in conjunction with LVM/RAID but I don't know the details.
[10:25] <codfather> More info - the file for the dbus config is /etc/dbus-1/system.d/dnsmasq.conf - but the contents , don't seem to offer any clue as to where what was once in /etc/resolv.conf is now stored. The reason behind the question is to do with being able to see what domain and search parameters are getting set on my Lappies.
[10:25] <Jordan_U> codfather: If nothing else, nm-tool should give you information about the name servers being used.
[10:25] <henkpoley> Jordan_U: ah, I'm on JFS and Ext4 at the moment.. I'll look into those.
[10:26] <henkpoley> Jordan_U: brtfs is rather experimental isn't it ?
[10:26] <Jordan_U> henkpoley: Yes, very much so.
[10:26] <codfather> Jordan_U - ok I will try that now
[10:27] <henkpoley> Jordan_U: I guess ZFS has it too :P But I would need to set up a (Open)Solaris NAS to use it stably..
[10:28] <codfather> Jordan_U: yes it gives simple info on the current DNS server, but it is the contents of what was in /etc/resolv.conf I'm after. It must be being stored somewhere ;-)
[10:28] <auronandace> !zfs | henkpoley
[10:29] <auronandace> !resolvconf | codfather
[10:30] <clarezoe> Hi, http://paste.ubuntu.org.cn/158809 I have two "online accounts" in my settings, what's the difference? anything wrong?
[10:32] <codfather> ubottu: Thanks for the response, but I'm completely happy with resolv.conf - the problem is with 12.10, it is no longer used. DNSmasq is used, and while it used to move the contents to another file in /var/run , it is now using dbus and I can't find out where the information supplied by the DHCP server to clients is being stored. Thats the bit I need to sort out. I don't wish to revert back to using resolv.conf, just understand how the new system works, an
[10:32] <codfather> d where the data is stored.
[10:36] <et_> okay now i dont have a sidebar just a plain empty desktop
[10:36] <et_> i had to use terminal to start irc
[10:36] <et_> or anything
[10:37] <yellowdog> hi et_
[10:37] <et_> grrr
[10:38] <et_> sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[10:38] <et_> i just did that and now i dont have a working dt
[10:38] <et_> well no sidebar or menu or anything
[10:39] <et_> i mean i guess i can do everything via terminal
[10:39] <et_> but thats kinda silly
[10:40] <z4139jq> try compiz --replace?
[10:40] <et_> well i dont think that will work
[10:40] <et_> but i will try
[10:40] <et_> i think its an x thing
[10:41] <henkpoley> what is 'the' command to sleep your desktop? Must be some dbus send trick.
[10:41] <et_> ctrl alt l
[10:42] <d7mach> first time user, hello world?
[10:42] <auronandace> !manual | d7mach
[10:42] <et_> okay it did give an error
[10:42] <et_> Compiz (opengl) - Fatal: glXQueryExtensionsString is NULL for screen 0
[10:42] <et_> but i am also 2 monitors
[10:43] <et_> it should not hinder a driver working
[10:44] <et_> at least i would think it shouldnt... but then again nix can be a bit bitchy sometimes
[10:44] <TomGreentimes2> the only driver ubuntu doesnt see which win7 does for me is my silicon-tech pseudo raid card, which i got no idea what it is for...i thought you managed raids at the bios level anyway
[10:45] <ikonia> TomGreentimes2: that brand has poor linux support
[10:45] <ikonia> TomGreentimes2: it's also a "fakeraid" card
[10:45] <TomGreentimes2> well, i dont use raid anyways
[10:45] <TomGreentimes2> i have zero hard drives that are the same
[10:45] <TomGreentimes2> i keep twins just for gpu
[10:46] <ikonia> what ?
[10:46] <ikonia> you keep twins ?? for gpu ?
[10:46] <dwarder> i have a video stream of unknows codec how do i find out/
[10:46] <dwarder> ?
[10:46] <J1> vlc
[10:46] <dwarder> it works in a browser
[10:46] <TomGreentimes2> how do i codec'd
[10:46] <et_> i found this
[10:46] <auronandace> TomGreentimes2: harddrives have nothing to do with graphics cards
[10:46] <et_> this might be helpful for someone... http://64.50.236.52/pub/ubuntu/pool/restricted/n/nvidia-graphics-drivers-96-updates/
[10:46] <TomGreentimes2> no they dont
[10:47] <TomGreentimes2> i just said that the only pieces i have in twin pairs are gpu cards.
[10:47] <TomGreentimes2> anyways
[10:47] <et_> i dont know why they got rid of restricted drivers
[10:47] <TomGreentimes2> i got a better idea dwarder
[10:47] <TomGreentimes2> pm me
[10:47] <et_> i think the lts has em but the regular doesnt
[10:47] <lhavelund> TomGreentimes2: Keep support in the channel; It's super helpful so others can see how issues are resolved, too.
[10:48] <auronandace> et_: they moved it to a tab in software sources, thats all
[10:48] <TomGreentimes2> wel
[10:48] <TomGreentimes2> okay
[10:49] <TomGreentimes2> thing is, i have made my own deb here for all possible awesomeness video wise by recompiling x264 into ffmpeg and a few other codecs
[10:49] <TomGreentimes2> i love checkinstall and im mad i only got to know about it so late
[10:54] <TomGreentimes2> can I have dd do a ghost of the ext4 partition it is on, but only of the space it occupies
[10:54] <TomGreentimes2> because...surely sometthing came up since then if not
[10:54] <TomGreentimes2> remastersystem looked promising until i saw the 4gb limit
[10:54] <Jordan_U> TomGreentimes2: Please be carefull about distributing .deb files made with checkinstall. While checkinstall is nice, it does *not* make .deb files which are fit for distribution. Also, it would be a little early to recommend a recompiled ffmpeg for dwarder when we hardly know anything about their problem (we don't even know what codec the video is or what player they're using).
[10:54] <rumpe1> TomGreentimes2, no, you can't. you can use partimage though.
[10:54] <TomGreentimes2> so you cant really add a lot of software you want in
[10:54] <bazhang> TomGreentimes2, is there an actual question there?
 can I have dd do a ghost of the ext4 partition it is on, but only of the space it occupies
[10:55] <TomGreentimes2> forgot the punctuation sign, i see grammar nazis are on full guard still here ;)
[10:55] <TomGreentimes2> thanks rumpel
[10:56] <TomGreentimes2> will check out what you have mentioned
[10:57] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[10:58] <ShapeShifter499> I have a netbook I want to tether with my iPhone, however this is through one of those non-offical methods that require a proxy, is it possible to have Ubuntu route ALL internet traffic through that specific proxy?
[10:58] <gabstou> hi everydbody
[10:59] <et_> auronandace i tried all those drivers that where there with the same result...
[11:00] <et_> et want ya nick?
[11:01] <et_> okay
[11:03] <gabstou> I have a problem maybe you can help me ... Im on Ubuntu  and i use notepad ++ with wine for my website . When i open the HTML file with mozilla the html code is on the screen but when i open this file with explorer on wine the webpage is good . it is a compatibilty bug ?
[11:03] <TomGreentimes2> rumpel :(
[11:03] <TomGreentimes2> Partimage does not support ext4
[11:03] <TomGreentimes2> damnit
[11:03] <TomGreentimes2> i liked the fact i could save my backup on network, would have sent it all to my vps
[11:04] <et_> gabstou why use wine to check a site
[11:04] <et_> im sure its fine...
[11:04] <rumpe1> gabstou, maybe because line-breaks are different on windows and linux? ... just a guess
[11:05] <et_> i mean useing diff browsers is a reasonable idea.. but using a vm
[11:05] <et_> i wouldnt rely on that
[11:05] <gabstou> do you think it's better to edit with vim ?
[11:05] <et_> no
[11:05] <et_> i dont
[11:06] <et_> i have recently messed with bluegriffon
[11:06] <et_> and i kinda like it
[11:06] <gabstou> i'll check bluegriffon
[11:06] <et_> besides that i would use a windows box and dreamweaver suite
[11:07] <et_> i loved that
[11:07] <et_> as outdated as it is
[11:11] <tiger1977> Hey there. i have a problem in 12.10 ubuntu. how do i change the standard language to another
[11:11] <tiger1977> it's in the office package
[11:12] <TomGreentimes2> im gonna be trying this folly of trying to install libc 2.15 on oneiric...apparently i can save my arse with locking my system in synaptic right
[11:12] <TomGreentimes2> ?
[11:13] <TomGreentimes2> i wouldnt mind screwing up if i could just take the time to make your own ppa with all the software you want to have in
[11:14] <rumpe1> TomGreentimes2, or you could generate a list of all installed packages at some point and feed that to the package manager... much easier i think.
[11:14] <TomGreentimes2> hm..ya
[11:14] <TomGreentimes2> is that what scrollkeeper is ?
[11:15] <TomGreentimes2> btw, sorry, not a noob to linux generally, bu t i hadnt used in 4 years and for most of the 2000's i was on arch
[11:15] <rumpe1> TomGreentimes2, don't know any "scrollkeeper". synaptic offers that feature and dpkg too.
[11:15] <auronandace> !clone | TomGreentimes2
[11:16] <TomGreentimes2> well, i just want to have something that isnt long to do, that guarantees that in the eventuality i need to reinstall, i can have all my software and all my settings as they were when i click on repair or bring back my stuff :)
[11:17] <TomGreentimes2> scrollkeepr i keep seeing in ubuntu rumpel.
[11:17] <TomGreentimes2> This dummy package is designed to facilitate upgrades for systems with scrollkeeper installed. It will bring its replacement, named rarian, instead.  You can safely remove this package.
[11:17] <TomGreentimes2> i dont have it installed right now but it seems to appear after some important updates, write things somewhere and remove itself
[11:18] <TomGreentimes2> whats the way to do exactly what you told me about in synaptic please ?
[11:18] <TomGreentimes2> because i am willing to risk installing libc 2.15 on oneiric
[11:19] <TomGreentimes2> i got its latest possible kernel damnit, i thought itd be enough
[11:20] <TomGreentimes2> rumpel, im not sure synaptic will be able to get everything back because some material is from PPA's only
[11:21] <TomGreentimes2> and not basic distros
[11:21] <auronandace> TomGreentimes2: why are you using 11.10?
[11:21] <TomGreentimes2> ...
[11:21] <TomGreentimes2> i dont want to explain sorry
[11:21] <TomGreentimes2> scroll up
[11:22] <TomGreentimes2> *again
[11:23] <auronandace> TomGreentimes2: i don't suppose you broke your arch install (which is why you are trying ubuntu now)?
[11:23] <TomGreentimes2> lets say i have 2 high end sound cards and none of them will work for more than 2 weeks on the 12th editions, i can put alsa-utils master sound to the max and i will a very strong buzzing and see bars indicating sound is being played but it wasnt coming out
[11:24] <gordonjcp> TomGreentimes2: which sound card?
[11:24] <TomGreentimes2> everything works fine on 11.10, so until that well known problem is solved, not changing
[11:24] <MonkeyDust> why use something that doesnt work?
[11:24] <TomGreentimes2> anyway 11.10 is still getting updates, i will switch when it doesnt anymore obivously
[11:24] <TomGreentimes2> monkeydust : exactly
[11:25] <MonkeyDust> TomGreentimes2  i'm talking about the sound cards
[11:25] <TomGreentimes2> where's the option to do exactly what you spoke about rumpel
[11:25] <TomGreentimes2> the sound cards work well
[11:25] <gordonjcp> TomGreentimes2: what kind of soundcard are you using, that's giving you this problem?
[11:25] <TomGreentimes2> i'd boot back into wondows and all would be fine
[11:25] <TomGreentimes2> and debian 6
[11:25] <TomGreentimes2> and ubuntu 11.10
[11:25] <TomGreentimes2> ¬_¬
[11:25] <FloodBot1> TomGreentimes2: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:26] <TomGreentimes2> look if you're all gonna gang me and repeat like robots get 12.04, i'm out
[11:26] <TomGreentimes2> not, gonna, work
[11:26] <gordonjcp> TomGreentimes2: I asked you a perfectly simple question
[11:26] <TomGreentimes2> im also not interested in discussing this
[11:26] <auronandace> TomGreentimes2: you have a problem with your sound card, people want to help you fix it
[11:27] <TomGreentimes2> why dont you browse google and look at all the people having problems with in 12.x when they didnt with 11 and 10 and 9 etc.
[11:27] <TomGreentimes2> :)
[11:27] <TomGreentimes2> with their sound
[11:27] <TomGreentimes2> 12.10 was the worst offender sound just stopped working altogether
[11:27] <gordonjcp> TomGreentimes2: okay, but what kind of sound card are you using?
[11:28] <yellowdog> Hi, I am new to Ubuntu 12.10, I like firefox browser very much.
[11:28] <auronandace> TomGreentimes2: so you don't want to say what sound card you got so people can't help you fix the issue? sounds rather counter-intuitive to joining a support channel
[11:28] <TomGreentimes2> i guess im telling you guys i remove unity cos i think its an abomination and i always put back gnome classic that i'm doing ubuntu wrong :)
[11:28] <gordonjcp> TomGreentimes2: the great thing about Linux is you've got the ability to choose to do that
[11:28] <TomGreentimes2> i tried like 20 different things from browsing the internet, chatrooms are never as productive
[11:29] <TomGreentimes2> i ask simpler things
[11:29] <MonkeyDust> TomGreentimes2  i use classic too, nothing wrong with that
[11:29] <gordonjcp> TomGreentimes2: well, since you won't describe the problem, you won't get much of an answer
[11:29] <TomGreentimes2> like, how do i make this list of all my packages with synaptic so i can load it right up in case i screw things up with the thing I want to do
[11:29] <gordonjcp> TomGreentimes2: there should be a handy app for that
[11:30] <TomGreentimes2> gordonjcp, you weren't part of the discussion...you dont even know why i want to do a "risky" move
[11:30] <yellowdog> hi gordonjcp
[11:30] <auronandace> !attitude | TomGreentimes2
[11:30] <MonkeyDust> TomGreentimes2  this is how I do it http://paste.ubuntu.com/1407521/
[11:30] <gordonjcp> TomGreentimes2: right, but as someone deeply involved in the Linux audio subsystem I'm really interested to find out why you're having problems, and what with
[11:30] <TomGreentimes2> to me no risky moves exists when you can have a restore point, and its not just a windows thing, at work the lab is all controlled by  solaris os computers and they also have similar system restores
[11:31] <TomGreentimes2> i have one high quality and one low quality sound card, both work right now in 11.10
[11:31] <gordonjcp> okay, and what are they?
[11:31] <TomGreentimes2> in 12.04 the sound wasnt able to amplify anymore
[11:31] <TomGreentimes2> in 12.10, the sound just outright stopped
[11:31] <gordonjcp> yeah, that wasn't what I asked
[11:31] <gordonjcp> what are the sound cards?
[11:32] <TomGreentimes2> see, the thing is i am busy, i have something i want to do since a while now, still waiting for the last bit of info i need and then i leave irc and go back to make things work
[11:32] <gordonjcp> TomGreentimes2: okay, I give up
[11:32] <gordonjcp> TomGreentimes2: you're either trolling or whining
[11:32] <gordonjcp> TomGreentimes2: if you don't want support, go and annoy some other channel
[11:32] <TomGreentimes2> oh so isee, i dont have time to discuss sound cards, so im trolling
[11:32] <MonkeyDust> or show off with newest hardware
[11:32] <auronandace> TomGreentimes2: why are you being so evasive? tell him what sound cards you have
[11:33] <gordonjcp> TomGreentimes2: I don't want to discuss sound cards, I want you to tell me what you have
[11:33] <TomGreentimes2> i am always in the middle of typing a sentence
[11:33] <gordonjcp> it's a very simple question
[11:33] <Ben64> the time you're wasting whining about stuff you could have typed the two models
[11:33] <TomGreentimes2> when someone else pops up with another thing i need to talk about
[11:33] <TomGreentimes2> i dont know the model names by heart
[11:33] <TomGreentimes2> let me go look at the sound settings
[11:33] <TomGreentimes2> ??
[11:33] <TomGreentimes2> k
[11:33] <TomGreentimes2> ?and its a waste of my time
[11:34] <gordonjcp> TomGreentimes2: pastebin the output of lspci, even
[11:34] <TomGreentimes2> still
[11:34] <TomGreentimes2> no
[11:34] <MonkeyDust> TomGreentimes2  and don't ht enter too often, it's getting a headache
[11:34] <TomGreentimes2> i wont do things cos you suggst them, whoever you are
[11:34] <Ben64> lspci | pastebinit
[11:34] <Ben64> so easy
[11:34] <gordonjcp> TomGreentimes2: "lspci | pastebinit" and then paste the URL in here
[11:34] <gordonjcp> !attitude | TomGreentimes2
[11:34] <TomGreentimes2> k, gangin' up on me for my specs
[11:34] <TomGreentimes2> cya
[11:34] <gordonjcp> you know what, I don't care
[11:34] <gordonjcp> well sod him, then
[11:35] <gordonjcp> wanker
[11:35] <Ben64> he was here earlier doing the same stuff. upgrading 11.10 to 3.2 kernel, trying to upgrade libc
[11:35] <Ben64> i tried to warn him that it'd likely break everything, but he wouldn't listen
[11:35] <gordonjcp> that's exactly why I stopped using and contributing to Arch
[11:36] <Ben64> i tried to explain that it's easier to fix sound on 12.04 than to make a frankenbuntu system, but oh well, its not my problem
[11:38] <yugandhar> Hi
[11:39] <yugandhar> ls -l | awk '/\<(a|x).*\.conf$/ { print $8 }' is not giving any output on my system
[11:39] <yugandhar> but it is working on the other machine
[11:39] <yugandhar> please help me
[11:39] <MonkeyDust> yugandhar  better ask in #bash
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> yugandhar: +1 for asking in 3bash
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> #bash
[11:40] <yugandhar> ok.. thanks
[11:40] <dwarder> i have a video strean on http port from my ip webcam, i know that besides port 80 it uses something else for video streaming, how do i find out which port does it use else?
[11:41] <gordonjcp> dwarder: nmap it?
[11:42] <SunBlack> conn @samba-technical
[11:43] <gordonjcp> SunBlack: /join
[11:43] <gordonjcp> and # not @
[11:45] <SunBlack> kkkk, truth, years without irc.
[11:46] <simplew> i have 2 kernels installed, and to change bootsplash i did run "sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth" and "sudo update-initramfs -u"  but i continue with the same bootsplash, alreadu did this 2 times, ANY HINT?
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> dwarder: you can use nmap to scan the IP
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> simplew: did you select the new splash when you ran the first command
[11:48] <simplew> ActionParsnip: yes, of course
[11:49] <simplew> ActionParsnip: it went fine with the last kernel version but not with the other kernel
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> simplew: did you run:  sudo update-grub   as well?
[11:49] <simplew> ActionParsnip: what for?
[11:49] <dwarder> ActionParsnip: only 80 port
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> simplew: Ive seen plymouth tweaking guides that have it named
[11:49] <dwarder> ActionParsnip: with nmap -v -A
[11:49] <dwarder> ipaddress
[11:50] <simplew> ActionParsnip: is there anyway to test changes?
[11:53] <dwarder> ActionParsnip: does it mean that video streamed on 80 port?
[11:53] <dwarder> ActionParsnip: and if i need to nat it i only need to nat this port?
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> dwarder: if that is the only listening port, then yes
[11:54] <dwarder> ActionParsnip: that is what nmap said
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> simplew: reboot seems to be the only option. I've seen a few guides but the commands don't seem to exist
[11:54] <apTeMkuH> i
[11:54] <Rooster|2> quit
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> dwarder: you could connect to the stream using mplayer / vlc etc
[12:14] <dwarder> upon login to vpn i got stdin: is not a tty
[12:16] <elena-IK> How do I unpack split zip archives (.zip .z01 .z02 .z03 and so on)? If I try with unzip on the command line or ark, only part of the archive gets extracted. ark shows a lot more files than it actually extracts. If I try with file-roller, I get "An error occurred while loading the archive.".
[12:16] <jrib> elena-IK: unzip the first file (the .zip)
[12:16] <elena-IK> jrib: that's what I'm doing
[12:17] <jrib> elena-IK: how was it created?
[12:17] <elena-IK> jrib: don't know
[12:18] <elena-IK> jrib: but I'll ask the creator :)
[12:18] <jrib> elena-IK: try catting all of them in order into one NEW file and see if that works...
[12:19] <almoxarife> elena-IK: you are not over-writing the content of the folders with dup zips?
[12:20] <jrib> elena-IK: see the first note in the BUGS section of "unzip"
[12:20] <elena-IK> jrib: oh, ok. thank you.
[12:21] <almoxarife> ark is pretty straight forward
[12:21] <jrib> elena-IK: I meant: see the first note in the BUGS section of "man unzip"
[12:22] <elena-IK> jrib: yes, I understood that. and I said thanks for that, because that BUGS section seems to offer the solution.
[12:23] <jrib> elena-IK: cool, no problem :)
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> !info zipsplit
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/gnome-split-file-splitter-for-gnome-desktop.html    supports up to Precise :)
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> !info nautilus-gnome-split
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> thats the package to use :)
[12:30] <InspectorCluseau> ubuntu how to for split files http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=859596
[12:41] <ztgu> hey
[12:42] <SpaceRocket> how to change the Unity launcher location?
[12:42] <ztgu> Where can I get help with choosing a laptop for linux?
[12:42] <MonkeyDust> !hardware > ztgu start here
[12:44] <ztgu> Hey MonkeyDust, noone at ! hardware
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> SpaceRocket: the launcher has to be on the left
[12:45] <ztgu> The launcher can be at the bottom too
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> SpaceRocket: there is a PPA to move it to the bottom but it's known to break things
[12:45] <ztgu> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/how-to-move-unity-launcher-to-bottom-of.html
[12:45] <ztgu> http://ishouvik.com/move-unity-launcher-to-bottom-12-0411-10
[12:45] <MonkeyDust> ztgu  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[12:46] <ztgu> been there done that
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> ztgu: http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/
[12:46] <ztgu> What would you guys recommend:
[12:46] <ztgu> http://www.msi.com/product/nb/GE60-0NC.html#/?div=Driver&os=Win8%2064
[12:46] <ztgu> or this one:
[12:46] <ztgu> http://www.sony.no/product/vaio-s-serien/svs1512z9e
[12:46] <FloodBot1> ztgu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:47] <MonkeyDust> ztgu  wrong channel for that sort of questions
[12:47] <ztgu> What channel then?
[12:47] <MonkeyDust> ztgu  try #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:47] <InspectorCluseau> ztgu, ask in ##linux
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> ztgu: make sure your CPU doesn't have an inbuilt GPU if you are having an Nvidia GPU
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> ztgu: Optimus does not play well in Linux
[12:49] <Pantsman0> quit
[12:50] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> hi BluesKaj
[12:50] <BluesKaj> hi ActionParsnip
[12:54] <Travis> Good morning
[12:58] <lieanu> $1
[13:01] <pony> The color is abnormal when the computer with ubuntu is connected with the LED TV. How to solve it ?
[13:02] <BluesKaj> pony, what kind of connection ?
[13:02] <BluesKaj> and graphics card?
[13:02] <pony> HDMI
[13:03] <pony> RADEON
[13:05] <susundberg> always or only with youtube videos?
[13:06] <susundberg> oh the youtube problem was with nvidia cards, nevermind ..
[13:06] <BluesKaj> pony, does catalyst control have any optional colour settings ?
[13:08] <pony> Try all the settings, No solution.
[13:09] <BoozeWooz> helps :SS
[13:10] <BoozeWooz> i boeied... ssd harddrives, but boot time is still > 120seocnds??
[13:10] <BluesKaj> pony, describe "abnormal "
[13:11] <pony> color seems like black white
[13:12] <BluesKaj> what about the tv colour settings ?
[13:12] <pony> The TV color is  normal under windows 7.
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> BoozeWooz: have you tested your RAM?
[13:13] <BoozeWooz> tested ? for what :o ?
[13:13] <BoozeWooz> hmm i dont get this kind of issues but
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> BoozeWooz: bad parts of RAM, what else?
[13:13] <BoozeWooz> hmm i have bootspeed thing image
[13:13] <BoozeWooz> i show you?
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> pony: is there a TV output setting in BIOS or in the settings
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> pony: in nvidia-settings if you use an nvidia GPU (maybe)
[13:15] <BoozeWooz> http://i.imgur.com/lbyLB.png
[13:15] <BoozeWooz> from here, my bootschart
[13:15] <BluesKaj> it's ati radeon. ActionParsnip
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: i see
[13:15] <pony> TOSHIBA L750D-C11W,   The same computer works well under win7 and color abnormal under ubuntu.
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> BoozeWooz: i'd start with a RAM test
[13:16] <BoozeWooz> ow-ke.. hmm ramtest
[13:16] <schauer97> I have a radeon to(Radeon HD 6800 Series) and it don't work very good
[13:16] <BoozeWooz> :o
[13:16] <BoozeWooz> send from iside back AMD ;) if its no werk
[13:16] <Travis> Does anyone here have any experience with a Dell 1450 wireless card (internal)?  I have a Dell Inspiron 1100 laptop on which Ubuntu won't find my card.
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> BoozeWooz: seems nothing happens for a while
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> Travis: what wifi chip does it use?
[13:17] <BoozeWooz> uhhh
[13:17] <BoozeWooz> yes theres a big problems with it :S
[13:17] <BoozeWooz> its a laptop T43... i made some hackeries to make it allow SATA
[13:17] <Travis> Broadcom, I think
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> Travis: run:   sudo lshw -C network      then you will know
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> Travis: saves you having to guess
[13:18] <craigbass1976> I've got a laptop in front of me.  The owner is paranoid -- while his wife was doing an update, he freaked and stopped it half way through.  I'm stuck at an initramfs prompt after a "ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/..... does not exist.  Dropping to a shell!" message.
[13:18] <Travis> yup!  Broadcom BCM4306
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> craigbass1976: I'd boot to liveCD and fsck the partition
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | Travis
[13:18] <BoozeWooz> Dec  3 10:24:23 cinka kernel: [  979.088041] ata2: link is slow to respond, please be patient (ready=0)
[13:18] <BoozeWooz> Dec  3 10:24:28 cinka kernel: [  984.072050] ata2: device not ready (errno=-16), forcing hardreset
[13:18] <BoozeWooz> Dec  3 10:24:28 cinka kernel: [  984.072067] ata2: soft resetting link
[13:19] <BoozeWooz> theres are what i get
[13:19] <BoozeWooz> data2: link is slow :S please wait...
[13:19] <BoozeWooz> and it keeps for that.. entire time i think??
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> BoozeWooz: have you tried a different hdd cable, or switching to a different controller
[13:19] <BoozeWooz> its putted inside laptop, only 1 wire
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> BoozeWooz: does't sound healthy then, do you have the latest bios?
[13:20] <BoozeWooz> hmmm look, there was some accident :P
[13:20] <BoozeWooz> with water, caused some smoke when it came on the motherboard
[13:20] <BoozeWooz> and the ATA controller of the motherboard was friend because of that
[13:20] <elena-IK> jrib: that worked. thanks again.
[13:20] <craigbass1976> BoozeWooz, You can't let the smoke out of a computer...
[13:21] <BoozeWooz> no
[13:21] <BoozeWooz> but.. the harddrive thing was toast
[13:21] <BoozeWooz> So, i picked up this CDrom -> sata conector
[13:21] <BoozeWooz> and the harddisk is now attached to sata connector of my cdrom :o
[13:21] <BoozeWooz> i think evil spirits inside ATA controller dont want to go away and cause this staff....
[13:25] <craigbass1976> ActionParsnip, Ahh, I remember now.  Some of this I did last week when I first sat down with it.  The filesystem is clean.  I also think (but can't verify) that I finished the update somehow with either a live cd and chroot or something.
[13:25] <drRocktopus> anyone have any luck installing ubuntu server on a newer lenovo desktop machine?  keep getting a no bottable system error :(
[13:26] <BoozeWooz> vat
[13:26] <craigbass1976> drRocktopus, It's not that windows quick boot scheme causing trouble is it?
[13:26] <drRocktopus> think so...
[13:26] <drRocktopus> just learning about all this uefi stuff now
[13:26] <drRocktopus> **SHAKING HEAD**
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> drRocktopus: why install server,wouldn't you want a desktop OS?
[13:26] <craigbass1976> drRocktopus, I only remember hearing people complaining about it before the rubber ever hit the road; I didn't realize it ever got implemented
[13:27] <drRocktopus> last server I built was 10 years ago lol
[13:27] <BoozeWooz> waabutu
[13:27] <BoozeWooz> maks ded
[13:27] <vitimiti> (·_·)/
[13:27] <BoozeWooz> hei \o/
[13:27] <drRocktopus> might try doing it from the liveCD desktop version next
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> drRocktopus: why are you installing the server OS on a laptop?
[13:28] <drRocktopus> its a desktop
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> drRocktopus: the server CD doesn't install a desktop UI
[13:28] <drRocktopus> lenovo ideacentre K4 series
[13:28] <drRocktopus> might be the quickboot issue...
[13:29] <drRocktopus> *might* be a lot of things at this point...
[13:29] <drRocktopus> hehe
[13:29] <drRocktopus> defeinitly going to try the desktop disk in 32bit this time
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> drRocktopus: do you want a desktop OS?
[13:29] <BoozeWooz> grr ><"
[13:29] <Travis> ok this is screwy.
[13:29] <drRocktopus> I'm trying to put together a server...
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> drRocktopus: that's not my question
[13:29] <Travis> One command says it's a BCM4306.  Another says it's a 4309
[13:29] <BoozeWooz> all my packages is broken :/
[13:29] <halalbanana> i got a serious problem
[13:30] <drRocktopus> but I don't thikn there are too many differences between the desktop and the server versions of ubuntu 12... no?
[13:30] <BoozeWooz> yes there is
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> drRocktopus: yes, the server install is pure CLI
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> halalbanana: wassup?
[13:30] <OpenSorce> Someone correct this theory for me.... I only have a 10g /home partition (poor planning on my part I know) Steam installs my games in ~/.steam. If I repartition my Windows drive, and get back say 50g of hdd and copy the current contents of ~/.steam to it then mount the new partition as ~/.steam I should get a .steam directory with 50g of space in it, right?
[13:31] <drRocktopus> but the desktop version still has all the services: apache, php, mail server etc correct?
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> OpenSorce: exactly
[13:31] <halalbanana> i need gnome2 with quanstal
[13:31] <halalbanana> will it blend?
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> drRocktopus: you can install those on the desktop OS, there is no restriction
[13:31] <omid8bimo> anyone? im getting too much of this err on my dmesg. does it matter? TCPv6: Possible SYN flooding on port 80. Dropping request
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> halalbanana: there are only unofficial unsupported forks
[13:31] <Pici> drRocktopus: server and desktop share the same repositories, but different default packages.
[13:31] <drRocktopus> ActionParnsip: excellent.. I think I will go for desktop version then... at least get hte GUI out of it
[13:32] <halalbanana> whats a fnord?
[13:32] <OpenSorce> ActionParsnip, thought so, thanks so much.
[13:32] <drRocktopus> so now I just have to solve my booting problem
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> halalbanana: never heard of a 'fnord'
[13:32] <halalbanana> the voice of silence?
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> drRocktopus: i'd start with the ram test
[13:32] <Pici> halalbanana: Leave the nonsense at the door, if you want to chat, theres #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:32] <halalbanana> so where can i get those forks or fnords
[13:32] <drRocktopus> is that tool in the liveCD?
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> halalbanana: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=mate+ubuntu    your call
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> halalbanana: personally I recommend you install xfce4 and use that, it has the Gnome2 feel and is fully supported here
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> halalbanana: rather than some guys perpetuating a dead project
[13:34] <halalbanana> i need some gnomestic features thats why i need gnome2
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> drRocktopus: hold shift at boot and select the memtest there
[13:34] <drRocktopus> ActionParsnip: Thanks! :) any thoughts on 32 vs 64 bit?
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> halalbanana: then use that link, fill your boots but Gnome2 is dead
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> drRocktopus: depends entirely on needs and the system you are using. There is no single answer
[13:35] <halalbanana> my boots? i walk barefoot
[13:35] <drRocktopus> I have heard compatibility issues with tomcat java server perhaps
[13:36] <lessshaste> I just installed dropbox from the .deb that dropbox provides ( I am using lubuntu-desktop).. how do I actually start it and get an icon showing it is working?
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> halalbanana: its a saying
[13:36] <halalbanana> ah im not familiar with sayings, i m a toker
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> drRocktopus: not sure there so cannot intelligently reply. I' imagine many servers use 64bit so you may find it's ok. There is a tomcat channel you can ask in
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> halalbanana: it's similar to "go nuts, buddy"
[13:37] <drRocktopus> ActionParsnip: cool...thanks a bunch for your help
[13:38] <James_Carter> anyone kno any good books to read to learn ALOT about computers?
[13:39] <drRocktopus> hm
[13:39] <halalbanana> so i stuck with natty dread
[13:39] <halalbanana> is it possible to compile wine 1.5 with natty dread? and make a deb package somehow?
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> halalbanana: i've had dreadlocks, but not heard of 'natty dread' being compiled with wine
[13:40] <KScorp> hihi
[13:40] <halalbanana> i forgo the release name
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> halalbanana: i don't follow
[13:41] <halalbanana> natty bread or something
[13:41] <amigamia> `dreadlocks?
[13:41] <KScorp> how can i copy a CD content by $dd command?
[13:41] <amigamia> did you dread it?
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> halalbanana: Natty Narwal is EOL, no longer supprted
[13:41] <gordonjcp> KScorp: same as any other drive...
[13:41] <amigamia> Is Hoary still supported?
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> amigamia: no, its dead too
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> amigamia: back in the day yes I had dreads
[13:42] <amigamia> wow
[13:42] <KScorp> gordonjcp: i inseted cd into my cd drive, it now mounted on the /media/cdname
[13:42] <halalbanana> i know its EOL, but the question was to compile something on my own and put them into a deb package instead installing it in the hardcore way
[13:42] <KScorp> the source is a directory
[13:42] <amigamia> I think I saw you walking around Vanity Square with flowers in your hair.
[13:42] <gordonjcp> KScorp: but you want to take an image, so see what the drive is called, probably /dev/cdrom
[13:42] <gordonjcp> KScorp: you're reading it, so it doesn't matter that it's mounted
[13:43] <KScorp> gordonjcp: oh.ok
[13:43] <halalbanana> so i meant a program that converts homebrew compiled code into a debian package
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> amigamia: https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/p206x206/4495_96621056613_2542279_n.jpg    that's about 4 years ago :)
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> halalbanana: look into checkinstall
[13:44] <KScorp> gordonjcp: it's ok. thank you very much
[13:44] <halalbanana> thank you mr. ActionParsnip : you are very kosher
[13:44] <amigamia> wow you look like Robet Plant! :D
[13:45] <gordonjcp> KScorp: working?
[13:45] <KScorp> gordonjcp: yes. but there is a problem
[13:46] <amigamia> You ARE Robet Plant!
[13:46] <KScorp> cd has a key i think.because i get Input/Output error while copying
[13:48] <gordonjcp> KScorp: it may be damaged
[13:49] <KScorp> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1407771/           what's the problem?
[13:50] <KScorp> gordonjcp:  no. it works correctly when  run it's content on cd.
[13:51] <Climbz> could someone please help me "force" mount a mac hdd that has a B-tree node size error. I'm trying to backup some data from this hdd
[13:52] <jeromest>  /whois Climbz
[13:54] <Marvin_Leo> Found this one adobe.com --> NOTE: Adobe Flash Player 11.2 will be the last version to target Linux as a supported platform. Adobe will continue to provide security backports to Flash Player 11.2 for Linux.  Is there an alternative?
[13:57] <KScorp> whats the best alternative software for netsim? for network simulating
[13:57] <llaskin> so a fresh install of ubuntu 12.04.01 LTS 32 bit, boots to a blank screen(first boot after install).  Thoughts?
[14:00] <clarz> Can I put my own files in Ubuntu iso before building it in UCK without damage to boot?
[14:01] <DJones> !remaster | clarz This may help, but its not something I've done, so can't beyond pointing at the factoid,
[14:06] <llaskin> so a fresh install of ubuntu 12.04.01 LTS 32 bit, boots to a blank screen(first boot after install).  Anyone have any thoughts?
[14:09] <MonkeyDust> llaskin  before or after the grub menu?
[14:25] <asdklasfg> hi! i know this is a bit OT but anyways, how can i discover the servers IP when i know its URL and the server is down?
[14:26] <wdp> asdklasfg, using dig.
[14:26] <OpenSorce> asdklasfg, ping it. The ping reply should reslove it through the DNS
[14:26] <asdklasfg> thx
[14:26] <OpenSorce> even if the server itself doesn't respond
[14:26] <James_Carter> anyone kno any good books about computers?
[14:27] <wdp> James_Carter, thats a wide topic, be more precise please.
[14:27] <OpenSorce> The pink shirt book!
[14:27] <OpenSorce> Sorry I'll hush now :-P
[14:28] <James_Carter> wdp , literally anything man, just throw out a favorite of yours on any topic related to computers etc..
[14:28]  * wdp wonders if he should link to some asm book.
[14:29] <James_Carter> lol
[14:30] <James_Carter> i want to learn computers from ground up
[14:30] <James_Carter> anything and everything
[14:30] <bazhang> !ot | James_Carter
[14:30] <OpenSorce> James_Carter, "computers" could mean anything from the Altair to the Roku. Seriously, be a little more specific.
[14:31] <ztgu> Hey, I was thinking of buying a new laptop. I found a MSI GX60. http://www.msi.com/product/nb/GX60.html#/?div=Specification
[14:31] <wdp> James_Carter, while this is ot, then look for some history related computer books and take a look at projects like the raspberry pi.
[14:31] <bazhang> ztgu, ##hardware please
[14:31] <ztgu> good to run linux on it?
[14:31] <OpenSorce> bazhang, sorry for the OT :-)
[14:32] <James_Carter> ight thnx..guess i gotta go somewhere else :/
[14:32] <wdp> btw. anyone playing games in wine (ubuntu) using a SLI setup and experiencing that graphics are pretty slow until you disable sli?
[14:33] <OpenSorce> wdp, playing games in wine is slow anyway, have you tried steam?
[14:33] <wdp> OpenSorce, not the games i play. and no, most of my games run pretty fast in wine (not using ubuntu, though)
[14:34] <wdp> thought there might be a sli-related-bug or something.
[14:35] <OpenSorce> wdp, but yes my SLI setup doesn't work right under wine when running games either. Works great under steam though
[14:39] <MonkeyDust> what's SLI ?
[14:40] <InstantKrimson> MonkeyDust: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scalable_Link_Interface
[14:41] <MonkeyDust> ah nvidia
[14:41] <kefir> anyone got hints on how to connect Ubuntu to AD so any AD user can log on?
[14:43] <MonkeyDust> kefir  if AD means Active Directory    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ActiveDirectoryWinbindHowto
[14:43] <bloouup> Where can I find alternative greeters for lightdm?
[14:43] <Darkstar1> Hello ppl just a QQ why is /lib/modules so big?
[14:44] <Darkstar1> I have a 207GB partition for / with /home on another and /lib/modules takes up 145GB
[14:44] <kefir> MonkeyDust: thanks, I'll have a go at that!
[14:44] <Darkstar1> I'm on 12.04
[14:44] <Darkstar1> Need to know if I can purge to make space
[14:46] <MonkeyDust> Darkstar1  looks like it contains kernels... type ls -lh /lib/modules/
[14:47] <Darkstar1> MonkeyDust: ok
[14:47] <voldyclient> :)
[14:47] <bhavesh> There is no more " Hide system title bar and use compact borders" in new Google Chrome version? I want to disable multiple title bars for chrome
[14:48] <phunyguy_work> Chromium*
[14:48] <Darkstar1> MonkeyDust: 3.0.0-20-generic files
[14:48] <bhavesh> chromium?
[14:48] <MonkeyDust> bhavesh  chromium is safer than chrome, it's what chrome is based on
[14:49] <Darkstar1> Chromium is what chrome is based on
[14:49] <phunyguy_work> in Ubuntu, it is Chromium.
[14:49] <Darkstar1> Nope. Chromium is a different browser
[14:49] <Darkstar1> You can also get chrome for Ubuntu
[14:49] <bhavesh> Yea, I know what chromium is, Google Chrome even showed a warning "Installing might SERIOUSLY damage your system" I just ignored it
[14:49] <phunyguy_work> is it in the repos?
[14:49] <bhavesh> the point is
[14:50] <phunyguy_work> I believe we are crossing that "unsupported" line.  Am I wrong?
[14:50] <bhavesh> Is there some option in chromium or google chrome to use single title bar instead of two when you select "Use system title bar"
[14:50] <savio> hey
[14:51] <Darkstar1> MonkeyDust: 144G	/lib/modules/3.2.0-34-generic downloaded today. I have no idea what downloaded this
[14:51] <savio> bhavesh, i don't think so
[14:51] <Darkstar1> MonkeyDust: but I did fire off an update earlier
[14:52] <Walther> Are the nvidia 310 drivers hitting nvidia-current any time soon?
[14:52] <Walther> afaik they already released a stable version of 310
[14:53] <Darkstar1> Any one?
[14:53] <areels> what happened to anyone Darkstar1  ?
[14:54] <Darkstar1> areels: Well...
[14:54] <j33> hello!
[14:54] <savio> !anyone | Darkstar1
[14:55] <Darkstar1> savio: I already asked!!
[14:55] <Darkstar1> scroll up
[14:55] <j33> strange behaviour requires help... after an upgrade libnux3.0 wants to remove Unity!
[14:55] <j33> Why ?
[14:55] <savio> Darkstar1, repeat your question
[14:55] <MonkeyDust> Darkstar1  not a clue, sorry
[14:55] <areels> I see that i just joined to #ubuntu when scroll, then you're saying anyo one?
[14:55] <atxq> looking for a screen recrder that can record specific application window only. any suggestions?
[14:55] <MonkeyDust> atxq  try kazam
[14:56] <SolarisBoy> atxq: gtk-recordmydesktop
[14:56] <j33> @atxq => look recordmydesktop, it rocks!
[14:56] <bhavesh> !sh
[14:56] <Darkstar1> I have a 207GB partition for / with /home on another and /lib/modules takes up 145GB anyone have any idea as to what could install something in that folder from the update package
[14:56] <Darkstar1> I did fire off an update earlier
[14:56] <Darkstar1> The system's a 12.04 that I use for light dev work
[14:56] <MonkeyDust> Darkstar1  207GB for / ???   it should be in the order of 10-15GB
[14:57] <bhavesh> Does OpenJDK works with Netbeans?
[14:57] <bhavesh> or do I have to get Sun Java JDK?
[14:57] <savio> Darkstar1, try disk usages analysis
[14:57] <Darkstar1> MonkeyDust: It's a desktop/light dev machine with lots of site running in a sub-directory
[14:58] <Darkstar1> savio: you mean running du -sh? and all that Jazz?
[14:59] <savio> Darkstar1, you can get an overall idea what might me wrong
[15:00] <Darkstar1> savio:  Already did that, that's how I know that /lib/modules is eating up all the space
[15:00] <savio> bhavesh, there are some issues i suggest you to give it try
[15:00] <Darkstar1> or found out rather
[15:00] <Darkstar1> bhavesh: openJDK works with netbeans but you can laso install the sunjdk
[15:01] <Darkstar1> And switch between both
[15:01] <bhavesh> ok
[15:01] <savio> bhavesh, http://trigonakis.com/blog/2011/04/29/netbeans-7-0-on-ubuntu-installation-%E2%80%93-openjdk-problem/
[15:02] <hasselmm> someone knows why ubuntu and debian use /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu while the less common distributions seem to have agreed on /usr/lib64 ?
[15:02] <bhavesh> Well I installed OpenJDK and the installer says "No compatible JDK was found"
[15:03] <enokd> #
[15:05] <Darkstar1> bhavesh: what netbeans version
[15:05] <Darkstar1> ?
[15:05] <savio> hasselmm, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultiarchSpec refer this
[15:07] <hasselmm> savio, 1000 thanks for the link!
[15:09] <ztgu> Hey, I need a good laptop for linux and gaming when using windows, any recommendations? I have been searching for a laptop without Nvidia and Intel GPU's in the same system.
[15:14] <jazzkutya> hi, what packages should i install on 12.04 to run 32bit apps?
[15:15] <ztgu> what apps?
[15:16] <Walther> Any news on when the nvidia 310 driver becomes nvidia-current?
[15:16] <Walther> AFAIK there is already a stable version available
[15:17] <vic_> hi!
[15:17] <vic_> hola
[15:18] <ztgu> hola
[15:18] <vic_> Consulta, tengo una mac g4 power pc, donde puedo conseguir una distrubucion de linux actualizada para esa maquina
[15:19] <Pici> !es | vic_
[15:20] <vic_> i have a mac g4 power pc, i want to instal linux in these machine, where i can download a linux ditributio for my mac
[15:20] <MonkeyDust> !mac
[15:21] <vic_> gracias ubottu por la info :)
[15:21] <vic_> thanks!
[15:21] <testvogel> Hi. Does anyone of you know how I can change glibc lookup directory? chroot doesnt work anymore after an update to 12.10. It always exits with "/bin/bash: /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.11' not found (required by /bin/bash)
[15:21] <ybit> escott: yeah, so i borked my machine after apt-get install libxdamage1 libxcomposite1
[15:21] <testvogel> because /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6: is the wrong dir
[15:22] <ybit> borked isn't the correct terminology i suppose
[15:22] <escott> ybit, that shouldnt have broken anything. those are standard packages
[15:22] <ybit> it just won't boot into anything but recovery mode which i'm using presently
[15:22] <ybit> yeah
[15:22] <Anon-Homer> hi all
[15:23] <ybit> trying to boot in regularly fails though, there's no indication of anything going on
[15:23] <ybit> i chrooted and installed some nouveau drivers but that didn't seem to fix anything
[15:23] <ybit> same issue where when booting, the screen is just black and it never changes
[15:24] <ybit> working through that
[15:24]  * ybit exits and starts screen + irssi
[15:27]  * ybit tinkers
[15:27] <ybit> escott: i do appreciate you taking the time to throw some ideas my way
[15:28] <testvogel> any ideas on my issue?
[15:28] <escott> ybit, im afraid im not sure what it would be though.
[15:28] <DANYAL> M Getting Error
[15:28] <DANYAL> I've narrowed it down to pango not installing correctly. But because my hardy is EOL, the repositories are dead. I need a way to fix pango from the CLI without having to deal with all the little boxes that have replaced the text characters
[15:29] <DANYAL> the error is everywhere in the gui there are little boxes instead of text
[15:29] <escott> testvogel, dont understand the question. why would you need to change glibc lookup for a chroot
[15:29] <jrib> DANYAL: "pango not installing correctly" Why do you say that?  How did you install it?
[15:29] <testvogel> because I always get the error /bin/bash: /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.11' not found (required by /bin/bash)
[15:29] <testvogel> but the folder /lib/tls/i686/cmov/ doesnt exists anymore
[15:30] <heathjs> escott: yeah, i'm afraid i'm not sure what it is, just going to get it to a state with no opengl on the desktop and be satisfied that i do at least have webgl
[15:30] <escott> testvogel, and do you have that file in your chroot
[15:31] <testvogel> escott, the libc.so.6 file? or which file?
[15:31] <escott> testvogel, /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6
[15:32] <testvogel> escott, no this file doesn't exist anymore after my ubuntu update. I guess the new directory has to be /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
[15:32] <testvogel> but I dont know how to change this
[15:33] <DANYAL> jrib: well, I started with dapper. Was the only distro i tried that would get the wifi working out of the box. That took a nice little eight hours. Then I went to upgrade to hardy via CD.. because repositories are dead or annoying.
[15:33] <escott> testvogel, clearly the chroot you are proposing to use is broken. not sure if you understand chroot or not
[15:33] <DANYAL> and nothing unofficial
[15:33] <escott> testvogel, the /bin/bash inside your chroot needs that file inside the chroot. its not there. the chroot is broken
[15:33] <jrib> DANYAL: right, but those distributions aren't supported; is there a reason you don't just do a fresh install of 12.04 (if you want LTS) or 12.10? Backup and fresh install will be quicker than upgrading
[15:34] <DANYAL> jrib: i did try other distros.. liked dPup, but wouldn't get the pcmcia prism wifi working -at-all-
[15:34] <DANYAL> jrib: it locks up.
[15:34] <jrib> DANYAL: what does?
[15:35] <DANYAL> Jrib: This is a pentium 2, 4 gig hd, 80 meg ram crappylappy
[15:35] <DANYAL> the install. Every time
[15:35] <jrib> DANYAL: heh, what environment do you run on that?  Try installing from the minimal iso
[15:37] <DANYAL> jrib:  alternative, text install, minimal.. hangs up every time
[15:37] <jrib> DANYAL: weird. You tried both 12.04 and 12.10?
[15:37] <escott> DANYAL, there is something like old-releases.ubuntu.com you can also see if you have the pango deb in /var/cache/dpkg
[15:38] <DANYAL> jrib: even i tried lubuntu, no joy
[15:39] <pratz> Hello guys
[15:39] <pratz> I am using 12.04
[15:39] <pratz> please check this http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/using-bash-history-more-efficiently-histcontrol
[15:39] <jrib> pratz: what's your question?
[15:40] <pratz> it says that when you use up arrow we can see the history
[15:40] <jrib> DANYAL: so the minimal on both 12.04 and 12.10 both hung?  Where do they hang?
[15:40] <pratz> jrib: how can i override the key binding with something else ?
[15:40] <DANYAL> jrib: i tried the old-releases, old-versions, archives, none of those work.. Got nothing but errors, even though I can browse no problems.
[15:40] <jrib> pratz: try #bash
[15:40] <pratz> jrib: hmmm
[15:42] <DeLorean731> I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 and firefox and I'm trying to run a java game that seems to be failing to load the plugin. I have installed openjdk-7-jre and icedtea-7-plugin. Any suggestions/
[15:43] <hans> hanspoo
[15:43] <DANYAL> jrib: can't find the cd... but most times it's on setting up services. instead of defering, which worked for dpup like magic, it just sits there and turned the laptop into a brick.
[15:44] <DANYAL> even presice puppy retro 5.4.1 hung up on me
[15:44] <sensah> hi
[15:46] <auronandace> DANYAL: we don't support puppy here
[15:46] <DANYAL> auronandace Hmm Ok
[15:47] <DANYAL> i have to say that during the install of hardy, I got a load of locale errors.
[15:47] <DANYAL> it never prompted me, so I didn't pay much mind. ;(
[15:47] <DANYAL> until the boxes.
[15:49] <Pummpy1> Is anymody here?
[15:49] <Pummpy1> I need a bit of help :S
[15:50] <rolling> 4018574677735546 0414 951 	Alan Lewis	 13 Walnut St 	Norwich	 NY	 UNITED STATES 	13815-1919
[15:50] <usr13> Yes, there are many.  State your issue.
[15:50] <rolling> 4018574677735546 0414 951 	Alan Lewis	 13 Walnut St 	Norwich	 NY	 UNITED STATES 	13815-1919
[15:50] <rolling> 4018574677735546 0414 951 	Alan Lewis	 13 Walnut St 	Norwich	 NY	 UNITED STATES 	13815-1919
[15:50] <Pummpy1> Does anyone know how to install files on this
[15:50] <rolling> yes
[15:50] <rolling> lol
[15:51] <Pummpy1> Because I can't
[15:51] <usr13> Pummpy1: What files are you missing?  (And how did they come to be missing?)
[15:52] <Pummpy1> usr13 How do you actually install files
[15:52] <Pummpy1> what program do you open it with for it to install?
[15:52] <escott> !apt | Pummpy1
[15:52] <usr13> Pummpy1: Well, several ways.  One would be a text editor.
[15:53] <usr13> Pummpy1: Oh, are you talking about installing Applications?
[15:53] <Pummpy1> yes :)
[15:53] <Pummpy1> Should have made that more clear :S
[15:53] <usr13> Pummpy1: apt (See abouve..)
[15:53] <Pummpy1> :)
[15:53] <usr13> Pummpy1: What exactly are you wanting to install?
[15:53] <dsenator> jrib, are yu there
[15:53] <jrib> dsenator: yes
[15:54] <Pummpy1> usr13 cinelerra
[15:54] <dsenator> woah
[15:54] <dsenator> impossible
[15:54] <usr13> Pummpy1: It's in the repositories.  No problem
[15:54] <amigamia> what a name monkeydust :D
[15:54] <dsenator> jrib, may I have the silverlight sites you gave me once again
[15:54] <Pummpy1> usr13 what's that?
[15:54] <rolling> 4018574677735546 0414 951 	Alan Lewis	 13 Walnut St 	Norwich	 NY	 UNITED STATES 	13815-1919
[15:54] <jrib> dsenator: the ones to test?
[15:55] <dsenator> yes
[15:55] <dsenator> you gave me 2, one was for some painting thingy
[15:56] <usr13> Pummpy1: I'm wrong, you'll have to use a ppa.
[15:56] <usr13> !ppa | Pummpy1
[15:56] <chris92> hey there - updated to 12.10 on my desktop pc with a dual screen setup - since then my mouse cursor is stuck on one of those two screens (it cant go to the other screen at all) - I'm using separate x sessions for the screens
[15:57] <chris92> any ideas how to fix this?
[15:57] <usr13> Pummpy1: https://launchpad.net/~cinelerra-ppa/+archive/ppa
[15:58] <dsenator> jrib, the 2 test ones you gave or any other, as long as it done with silverlight... wanna test again
[15:58] <jrib> dsenator: I got them from here: http://www.go-mono.com/moonlight/community.aspx (samples section)
[15:59] <Pummpy1> usr13 How does it work :S
[16:00] <dsenator> thanks jrib, it does appear that moonlight development is stalled tho
[16:00] <usr13> Pummpy1: When you add a ppa to the package manager, the app(s) in that ppa become accessable to install through the use of the package manager, apt.
[16:00] <jrib> dsenator: yes, I think so
[16:00] <pingpongping> how many browsers are available for ubuntu
[16:00] <jrib> pingpongping: a lot...
[16:01] <Pummpy1> usr13 im a ubuntu noob. I don't have a clue :S
[16:01] <pingpongping> a lot means ?
[16:01] <oliver__> Hi! i just installed ubuntu 12.10 on my dell xps 14z and I always has a very high load avarerage, when idle for example: 0.76 0.83 0.44. what can it be? it slows down my computer a lot, no high cpu usage or anything else what i can find
[16:02] <MonkeyDust> pingpongping  in the order of 20 or so
[16:02] <nonkn4mer> oliver__: is it installed on a legacy machine?
[16:02] <pingpongping> 20 ? r u crazy
[16:02] <usr13> Pummpy1: http://askubuntu.com/questions/4983/what-are-ppas-and-how-do-i-use-them
[16:03] <oliver__> nonkn4mer: no, i5 with 4 core, intel hd 4000
[16:03] <Habermas> hey guys, could anyone recommend a nice network file sharing app for ubuntu?
[16:03] <pundit> where to configure whether gdm is started at boot-up?
[16:04] <usr13> Habermas: nfs
[16:04] <usr13> Habermas: or  samba
[16:04] <jrib> pundit: do you mean you want to select which dm is used or whether a dm is started at all?
[16:04] <MonkeyDust> pingpongping  firefox, chromium, midori, abrowser, epiphany, lynx, elinks are the most common, but there are more
[16:04] <pundit> have gone through the xinit files, xsession etc. but not found it
[16:04] <nonkn4mer> oliver__: load average is comprised of several factors, a slow hard drive or read errors  could jack your results, too.
[16:04] <iceroot> pundit: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[16:04] <usr13> !nfs | Habermas
[16:05] <usr13> !samba | Habermas
[16:05] <chris92> any idea for my dual monitor setup fix where the mouse is stuck on one screen? :)
[16:05] <pingpongping> whree is ie ?
[16:05] <Habermas> well Samba and NFS seem pretty complicated, I was wondering whether there is a simple application that I could install on all my machines which would do the job for me :P
[16:05] <pundit> jrib: both. actually i want to turn off gdm. but i also want to be able to choose another one. is there no config file, no other way than dpkg-reconfigure?
[16:05] <oliver__> nonkn4mer: I know, I have checked my drive with iotop, nothing weird there, this drives me crazy
[16:05] <MonkeyDust> pingpongping  ie is for windows, but i gues there's also ie4linux or so
[16:05] <chris92> there is no Internet Explorer for Ubuntu, pundit
[16:05] <chris92> woops, wrong nick
[16:06] <usr13> Habermas: You can use scp  (after installing openssh-server)
[16:06] <pundit> iceroot: is there no config file, no other way than dpkg-reconfigure?
[16:06] <usr13> Habermas: nfs is not as complicated as you think.
[16:06] <iceroot> pundit: sure there is but i dont know where
[16:06] <escott> chris92, please paste the output of "xrandr"
[16:06] <iceroot> pundit: dpkg is just reconfiguring conffiles
[16:06] <usr13> Habermas: Samba is not all that tough either.
[16:06] <phunyguy_work> So, I am trying to use evolution on 12.10 with the exchange plugin installed, so I can access my mail account at work.   I enter all the account details, authenticate perfectly, then accept the settings and close, - the account doesnt get added to evolution, and upon restarting the app, it does the new acccount wizard again.  What could be wrong?
[16:07] <jrib> pundit: that dpkg-reconfigure, will edit /etc/X11/default-display-manager .  See ubottu about booting with no X:
[16:07] <nonkn4mer> oliver__: have you ran netstat to see if you have something hammering a nic?
[16:07] <jrib> !text | pundit
[16:07] <MonkeyDust> pingpongping  there are plenty sites, here's one http://linux.dltube.net/download197.html
[16:07] <pingpongping> how to scan wireless network in ubuntu
[16:08] <oliver__> nonkn4mer: no, how do I do that and what should I look for?
[16:08] <chris92> escott -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1408082/
[16:08] <usr13> pingpongping: iwlist wlan0 scan
[16:08] <usr13>  .... sudo   ^^^^
[16:08] <escott> chris92, dual monitor would require two monitors
[16:08] <chris92> im using two monitors... I'm even sitting in front of both <.<
[16:09] <escott> chris92, then you are running two servers or something, because you arent using xinerama. it only shows one display. maybe this is some nvidia junk
[16:09] <pundit> jrib: thanks!
[16:09] <pundit> iceroot: thanks also to you!
[16:10] <chris92> escott, two x sessions, yes. xinerama makes it look weird because both monitors use different resolutions
[16:10] <pingpongping> why there isn't any gui app for scanning ?
[16:10] <dr_willis> !info xsane
[16:10] <pingpongping> user13 , it doesn't work
[16:10] <chris92> pingpongping, network-manager usually does that
[16:10] <escott> chris92, if you have two x servers you need two keyboards and two monitors
[16:10] <escott> chris92, rather two mice
[16:10] <usr13> escott: Yes, he stated earlier that he is running 2 Xsessions.
[16:10] <chris92> escott, bullshit. it worked on 12.04 just as well
[16:11] <Bombo> i'm using Ubuntu 12.10, and i want to disable the network manager. so i edited /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf set [ifupdown] managed=true, saved it, edited /etc/network/interfaces added eth0, rebooted, but /etc/network/interfaces doesnt contain my changes anymore, network manager did it again
[16:11] <usr13> Bombo: uninstall it.
[16:11] <Bombo> what else do i need to do to disable it?=
[16:11] <Bombo> usr13: hm
[16:12] <pingpongping> chris where is this network manager ?
[16:12] <usr13> Bombo: sudo apt-get remove network-manager
[16:12] <tsniveda> #gedit
[16:12] <Bombo> usr13: no way to just disable it?
[16:12] <pundit> jrib: yes, the file is there. thanks again! :)
[16:12] <chris92> normally in your taskbar, there should be an icon with two arrows, one facing up, one facing down
[16:12] <usr13> Bombo: Well, why would you not uninstall it if you are not going to use it?
[16:13] <houd> sudo apt-add-repository ppa:gwendal-lebihan-dev/cinnamon-nightly
[16:13] <houd> sudo apt-get update
[16:13] <chris92> pingpongping, there you should be able to see all available wireless networks
[16:13] <houd> sudo apt-get install cinnamon
[16:13] <Bombo> usr13: maybe i'm going to use it later ;)
[16:13] <nonkn4mer> oliver__: you can run netstat -i and it'll tell you the load on your nics.  looking into it further, that might not be the best option.  looking for better solution
[16:13] <usr13> Bombo: Install it later.
[16:13] <Bombo> usr13: right
[16:14] <Bombo> usr13: was that a 'there is no way to just disable it (for a while)'?
[16:14] <dr_willis> Bombo:  shouldent it be managed=false  since its not managed by the network manager?
[16:14] <chris92> escott, the thing is, if I'm using twinview, games tend to use the full combined resolution, instead of only the primary screen
[16:15] <houd> can i have a cinnamon desktop on xubunut
[16:15] <houd> "xubuntu
[16:15] <usr13> Bombo: I'm just giving you the easiest and simpliest way. (It'
[16:15] <usr13> s what I'd do)
[16:15] <chris92> escott, two x sessions worked fine before 12.10 - so there must have been a change in either xorg or nvidia drivers
[16:15] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/2901/unmanaged-network-icon-network-manangement-disabled
[16:15] <Bombo> dr_willis: not sure, it was false before
[16:15] <dr_willis> seems to mention some other config files
[16:16] <houd> can i have a cinnamon desktop on xubuntu/ubuntu/lubuntu
[16:16] <escott> chris92, i dont understand how you can ever expect two sessions to work like that. you want to move the mouse off screen1 and only screen2... well where is screen2 in relation to screen1, above below, left right... none of the above because it is completely independent
[16:17] <houd> please
[16:17] <dr_willis> houd:  most likely yes. but its not supported here. and if it break things you are on your own.
[16:17] <houd> how can i have cinnamon on xubuntu
[16:17] <houd> ok thanks
[16:17] <usr13> houd: Install it.
[16:17] <chris92> escott, I expect it to work because it just did... I want to move it off screen 1 so it gets to screen2, which is left of screen 1
[16:17] <houd> ok what must i do after
[16:18] <usr13> chris92: It may be that you don't remember correctly the way you did it before.
[16:18] <houd> installing cinnamon
[16:18] <chris92> usr13, I didnt change anything in the nvidia-settings
[16:18] <houd> sudo apt-get update?
[16:18] <chris92> usr13, I just did a dist-upgrade
[16:18] <usr13> houd: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:18] <dr_willis> houd:  cinnamon is not part of the default ubuntu repos. so you will need to reserach it to find out how to install it.
[16:18] <MonkeyDust> houd  http://news.softpedia.com/news/Introducing-Ubuntu-Cinnamon-Remix-311264.shtml <-- 12.04 LTS
[16:19] <Pummpy1> usr13 are you still here?
[16:19] <usr13> Pummpy1: Yes
[16:19] <usr13> but not for long....
[16:19] <escott> chris92, nvidia has their own crummy broken implementation of multi-monitor support so its entirely possible that xrandr doesn't report anything sensible for their multi-head config. i neither know nor care what nvidia does
[16:20] <escott> chris92, based on your xrandr output i would say you cannot possible make things work.
[16:20] <Pummpy1> usr13 I will only be quick. How do I get to this here? (http://askubuntu.com/questions/4983/what-are-ppas-and-how-do-i-use-them/40351#40351) it says now install from the software center
[16:20] <dr_willis> Pummpy1:  after you enable a 'ppa' it shows packages in the software center and other package manager tools same as the default repositories do.
[16:21] <houd> its not the cinnamon desktop i want but i found a other cinnamon desktop (sudo apt-add-repository ppa:gwendal-lebihan-dev/cinnamon-nightly)
[16:21] <Bombo> ok removed it, edited interfaces manually, reboot, waiting for dhcp now
[16:21] <usr13> Pummpy1: Are you using unity?
[16:21] <chris92> is there a quick way to restart the xserver? i remember there was a hotkey for that some years ago
[16:21] <Pummpy1> Probably not ..
[16:21]  * Bombo watches the log
[16:21]  * Pummpy1 test
[16:21] <dr_willis>  You normally add/enable the PPA. do a 'update' of the package listing, then you can install what you want from the ppa.
[16:21] <bkfitz> Looking at a new wireless router that will support cloud storage for backup and remote access to my files... anyone have any experience with regards to Ubuntu integration
[16:22] <escott> chris92, nozap is disabled.
[16:22] <Pummpy1> Is there a video tutorial anywhere?
[16:22] <escott> chris92, rather nozap is set so zap is disabled
[16:22] <dr_willis> bkfitz:  some of the new Cisco routers are supposed to have a cloud feature. but im not sure it works very well.
[16:22] <chris92> escott, brb
[16:23] <dr_willis> bkfitz:  you may want to look into running that 'owncloud' service.  I just use ssh for now to get into my pcs from my phone.
[16:23] <houd> whats the different of sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:23] <bkfitz> dr_willis: yeah... seems like cisco has something called "connect cloud" and dlink has something called "mydlink"
[16:23] <dr_willis> houd:  you UPDATE the list. then Upgrade the system
[16:23] <bkfitz> dr_willis: but I want android access etc
[16:23] <houd> oh thanks
[16:23] <dr_willis> bkfitz:  I can plug a USB hd into my router and its on the lan. but its flakey.
[16:24] <dr_willis> bkfitz:  as far as i know that COnnect Cloud is not active yet. I havent looked into it in a while
[16:24] <bkfitz> dr_willis: yeah... thats what i'm looking for... and always want to check on linux support before i go buying...
[16:24] <dr_willis> bkfitz:  im not sure how much i trust it either. ;)
[16:24] <alexGla> hello. I have derby db on my Ubuntu machine. And i m following tutorial from http://db.apache.org/derby/papers/DerbyTut/ I m looking for .ksh to start the server but then unzipped archive have not found any.
[16:25] <bkfitz> dr_willis: yeah... but what do you trust?  #sslstrip ;)
[16:25] <houd> wich programm is the best? windows8/ununtu/xubuntu/lubuntu/kubuntu?
[16:25] <dr_willis> bkfitz:  id trust a linux box on the lan. Not a usb on the router :) Plus it would be faster.
[16:25] <chris92> escott, okay, changed to twinview now - does this one look better? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1408128/
[16:26] <dr_willis> bkfitz: I just ssh/sft into my linux box these days if i need. Or use UbuntuOne
[16:26] <usr13> Pummpy1: Try Method 2: Using the command line?  At:  http://www.sitepoint.com/ubuntu-12-04-lts-precise-pangolin-discovering-a-world-of-ppas/
[16:26] <bkfitz> dr_willis: but not accessible on the road, from android etc...
[16:26] <dr_willis> bkfitz:  so my stuff is accessable on the road.. without needing a cloud router.
[16:26] <houd> how do i root my android phone
[16:26] <dr_willis> houd:  ask in #android
[16:26] <chris92> houd - refer to xda-developers for that one
[16:26] <usr13> !android | houd
[16:27] <usr13> ... thought sure there would be an !android factoid by now...
[16:27] <escott> chris92, that actually shows two monitors
[16:27] <chris92> escott - yea because it only uses one x session now
[16:27] <houd> ok and wich programm shall i take ?ubuntu/xubuntu/kubuntu/lubuntu
[16:27] <chris92> escott, but now I have the problem that games would use up the combined resolution, not the one of the main screen
[16:28] <chris92> houd - basically its the same, it only depends on which desktop environment you prefer. ubuntu uses Unity, kubuntu uses KDE, xubuntu uses XFCE
[16:28] <usr13> houd: http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android  #Cool video  :)
[16:29] <dr_willis> houd:  what are you trying to do exactly? Your questions are jumping around all over the place.
[16:29] <houd> i just want ti find the perfect programm
[16:29] <houd> "to
[16:29] <usr13> houd: I recommend xubuntu, (but that's just because it's what I like/use, but I think it's pretty nice.  I like a Desktop Environment that is simple, easy to use, etc...)
[16:30] <dr_willis> houd:  for what?
[16:30] <houd> to learn more about linux
[16:30] <usr13> houd: Use it.
[16:30] <dr_willis> houd:  id start with the Ubuntu Manual. and use Ubuntus default interface
[16:30] <nonkn4mer> then just install the default build.
[16:30] <dr_willis> !manual | houd
[16:30] <nonkn4mer> ^^ houd
[16:30] <kvothetech> houd: use minimal and build up what you want from there.
[16:31] <dr_willis> kvothetech:  he diddent know what the differance was btween apt-get update and upgrade.. I think 'minimal' is beyone his comprension. ;)
[16:32] <kvothetech> dr_willis: just got here read 'want to learn, and trying to pick which install to use
[16:32] <usr13> houd: https://help.ubuntu.com/
[16:32] <escott> chris92, if you have two completely different x sessions, then alice could be on monitor 1 and bob on monitor 2. it would be completely screwed up if alice could move her cursor onto bobs display. so you have to have something like xinerama or twinview
[16:32] <kvothetech> dr_willis: i'll shutup now though.
[16:32] <RickZilla> Running 12.10, when I go to gmail, it asks me if I want to load the app...is this a recommended action? I'm assuming it just houses the gmail infrastructure on my local machine, instead of going out to get it each time?
[16:32] <dr_willis> escott:  trying to do a MultiSeat X session?
[16:32] <zykotick9> escott: dr_willis multiseat is non-trivial
[16:33] <dr_willis> RickZilla:  thats the webapps feature - that puts a gmail icon in the panel.
[16:33] <houd> whats the terminal in reality(a booting machin?)
[16:33] <nonkn4mer> dr_willis: at least he picked ubuntu and not some obscure build :P
[16:33] <usr13> RickZilla: Really?  firefox gmail.google.com   ?
[16:33] <houd> RickZilla:yes
[16:33] <escott> dr_jesus, thats what chris92 was claiming he was doing
[16:33] <chris92> dr_willis, I have a dual monitor setup and my nvidia-settings let me setup separate x sessions for each monitor and I could still use my mouse on both screens when moving them from one to another
[16:33] <dr_willis> zykotick9:  actually id heard it was  being worked on  to make it easier. Ive never tried it.
[16:33] <RickZilla> usr13 Really
[16:33] <chris92> dr_willis, that was until I updated to 12.10
[16:34] <RickZilla> houd: k, I'm assuming that's the only change it makes?
[16:34] <zykotick9> dr_willis: i haven't tried in years, so perhaps it's changed - but at the time, i never got it working ;)
[16:34] <dr_willis> chris92:  sounds like you were not using Seperate X sessions then. But had Xinerma/twinview enabled.. Been usign 2 monitors for ages..
[16:34] <chris92> chris92, definitely was two separate x sessions. hmm
[16:34] <chris92> dr_willis ^^
[16:34] <usr13> RickZilla: To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add
[16:35] <dr_willis> zykotick9:  thers some company making a little  $50 MultiSeat gizmo that is supposed to make it rather plug and play. :) not even needing   a fancy video card.
[16:35] <houd> what is better 12.04 or 12.10
[16:35] <RickZilla> usr13: Not on an ubuntu machine right now
[16:35] <zykotick9> houb what is better yellor or orange?
[16:35] <usr13> houd: 12.04 is LTS
[16:35] <dr_willis> chris92:  I would think its misconfigured and  its Not using 2 X sessions then. Ive NEVER seen 2 x sessions work that way. but i tend to just use  one wide desktop
[16:36] <chris92> dr_willis, any idea how to let games only use one screen's resolution then?
[16:36] <houd> i know but wich one is better K/X/L/UBUNTU 12.04 OR 12.10
[16:36] <snoop> i install de 12.10 on in virtualbox and the unity its slow as hell..
[16:36] <chris92> houd, like I said before, its personal preference
[16:36] <dr_willis> chris92:  nope. I dont mess with games much. Ive always been able to window them, drag them to the 2nd monitor. fullscreen them and they use the 2nd monitor's res.
[16:37] <snoop> had to instal xfce and run and run as xubuntu
[16:37] <usr13> houd: YOu are asking a question that requires an opinion.  Ok, my opinion is xubuntu (but if you ask 4 people, you will likely get 4 answers)
[16:37] <dr_willis> houd:  most of the docs are going to be written for UBUNTU and Unity.... if you know nothing about Ubuntu. then stick to the defaults.
[16:37] <nonkn4mer> houd: what you might want to do is to set up a few virtual machines.  I have ubuntu, RHEL, Suse, and CentOS all on different virtual machines so I can bounce back and forth, seeing what works in which environment
[16:37] <nonkn4mer> hell, even mac os x uses a lot of similar CLI commands
[16:38] <dr_willis> houd:  its rather trivial to isntall all those desktops on the same machine and try them out.
[16:38] <chris92> dr_willis, hmm maybe I'm just used to Windows' behavior too much then. there it just picks the primary monitor
[16:38] <phunyguy_work> I am trying to get evolution to talk to MS Exchange, is there an activesync plugin for it that anyone is aware of?
[16:38] <nonkn4mer> dr_willis: trivial, yes.  But worked for me
[16:38] <phunyguy_work> (it has to work outside the network)
[16:38] <dr_willis> chris92:  ive seen badly written apps that use the wrong monitor. or worse yet.. use both monitors.
[16:39] <usr13> houd: I would suggest you just install one.  YOu can install more than one desktop environment if you want, all of them if you want, you can change desktop environemnt each time you log into the system.
[16:39] <chris92> dr_willis, yea, me too... looks funny on my end then because one screen uses 1680x1050 and the second 1920x1080 :D
[16:39] <houd> yes but cinnamon or gnome?
[16:39] <mako_reactor> install gentoo
[16:39] <houd> gnome clasic?
[16:39] <zykotick9> dr_willis: best solution i've seen for multimonitor and gaming is to use a NULL string in xorg.conf, so when a specific resolutionis called - it autodisabled the "other" monitor.
[16:39] <chris92> houd, just use Unity, which comes with Ubuntu
[16:39] <dr_willis> houd:  cinnamon is NOT supported by this channel.  and Unity runs on top of gnome.
[16:39] <RickZilla> I'm using 12:10 with cinnamon, in case anybody is keeping score
[16:40] <mako_reactor> lol@Unity
[16:40] <RickZilla> I liked Unity for about 5 minutes
[16:40] <usr13> houd: Let's say you install Ubuntu.  "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"  will install the xfce4 Desktop Environment. etc..
[16:41] <houd> ok now im using cinnamon. its realy good but how can i delet xfce?(does it funktion
[16:41] <nonkn4mer> houd: that's really the beauty of linux.  there's no "best" option.  It's infinately customizable
[16:41] <snoop> if the box in wich u install ubuntu 12.10 does not suppurt 3d its gonna be very slow
[16:41] <mako_reactor> sudo apt-get purge uninty-shit
[16:41] <nonkn4mer> lol @ mako_reactor
[16:41] <usr13> houd: sudo apt-get remove xubuntu-desktop  (But you dont really have to un-install it.)
[16:41] <snoop> like usr13 says xubuntu desktop its much beter
[16:41] <snoop> better
[16:41] <phunyguy_work> !ot
[16:41] <jrib> mako_reactor: let's try to stay on-topic please
[16:42] <usr13> snoop: ... that's just MY opinion ...  ;)
[16:42] <phunyguy_work> !language
[16:42] <snoop> well mine too =D
[16:42] <mako_reactor> install gentoo
[16:42] <dr_willis> !info gentoo
[16:42] <usr13> phunyguy_work: What is your native language?
[16:43] <phunyguy_work> English?
[16:43] <houd> i tried (ultimate/stella/hybride/mint/debian/lubuntu/xubuntu/kubuntu/) wich will be the best linux program????????
[16:43] <usr13> phunyguy_work: Ok.  You are in the right place.
[16:43] <snoop> i had to install xfce desktop because it running on a airbook
[16:43] <jrib> mako_reactor: this channel is for ubuntu support.  You can talk about other things (like gentoo) in #ubuntu-offtopic.  I'll have to kick you if you continue here
[16:43] <phunyguy_work> It was directed at mako_reactor just forgot to include him
[16:43] <chris92> houd, they are all good on their own. It depends on what you like most...
[16:43] <dr_willis> houd:  sounds like you need to spend more time actually using linux, and less time playing with all the differnt disrtos..
[16:43] <mako_reactor> Sorry I'm japan
[16:43] <mako_reactor> 私のペニスとたわごとを吸うするようにしてください。リナックス
[16:44] <phunyguy_work> or a troll.
[16:44] <dr_willis> houd:  its been said several times now - for a total 'beginner' its most likely best to stick with the normal default UBUNTU
[16:44] <mako_reactor> I'm JAPAN
[16:44] <Bombo> usr13: ok eth0 works now, without nm ;) and the suspend/sleep mode does too, network-manager did always disable the network device when i hit the sleep key, so wake on lan didn't work
[16:45] <phunyguy_work> does evolution have a plugin for the unity envelope notification applet?
[16:45] <urgodfather> is anyone familiar with ubuntu on the poulsbo chip?
[16:45] <usr13> Bombo: good.
[16:45] <apm1> does ubuntu server come with the same kernel configuration as ubuntu desktop version
[16:45] <urgodfather> if so, i have a clean install for a customer that i need help fixing the sluggish behavior
[16:45] <llaskin> to add to my path variables, all I need to do is edit my .bashrc correct?
[16:46] <dr_willis> llaskin:  thats one way to do it yes.
[16:46] <zykotick9> llaskin: run "source .bashrc" after making changes to apply them
[16:46] <usr13> Bombo: If you just use a wired connection, you probably don't have much use for network-manager
[16:46] <houd> dr_willis why do you use and like xubuntu?
[16:46] <dr_willis> llaskin:  i think .profile has some PATH info in it these days
[16:47] <dr_willis> houd:  I dont use xubuntu.
[16:47] <houd> wich one?
[16:47] <usr13> houd: Just try it.
[16:47] <apm1> and if i add packages to a live install on a usb flash drive will the packages added by me also install on my hd if i decide to install it ?
[16:47] <dr_willis> houd:  I use the normal Unity Desktop.
[16:47] <jrib> llaskin: yes, you should follow the examples in the default ~/.profile
[16:47] <zykotick9> apm1: no
[16:47] <dr_willis> in  .profile:    PATH="$HOME/bin:$PATH"
[16:48] <bhagwat> hi  friends .I want help for below problem.I had installed kannel gateway but when i am giving http request "http://localhost:13013/cgi-bin/sendsms?username=kannelUser&password=123&from=+551143214321&to=+551112341234&text=testing" it gives proble in terminal that is "2012-12-03 11:31:45 [8334] [12] ERROR: Error while gw_gethostbyname occurs.2012-12-03 11:31:45 [8334] [12] ERROR: System error 1: Operation not permitted2012-12-03 11:31:45 [8334] [12] ERROR:
[16:48] <bhagwat>  gethostbyname failed 2012-12-03 11:31:45 [8334] [12] ERROR: System error 110: Connection timed out 2012-12-03 11:31:45 [8334] [12] ERROR: error connecting to server `localhost:20022' at port `20022'  2012-12-03 11:31:45 [8334] [12] ERROR: Couldn't send request to <http://localhost:20022?username=nork&password=z0rK&to=918149221884&text=test&from=+918149221884&coding=0&charset=UTF-8&smsc=MYMODEM&dlr-url=> 2012-12-03 11:31:45 [8334] [7] ERROR: HTTP[(null)]:
[16:48] <bhagwat>  Couldn't connect to SMS center (retrying in 10 seconds).
[16:48] <FloodBot1> bhagwat: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:48] <apm1> zykotick9,  no for which question ?
[16:48] <apm1> i asked 2
[16:48] <jrib> if there ever was a time to use a pastebin...
[16:48] <phunyguy_work> oooh, nice.  a username and password.
[16:48] <zykotick9> apm1: no to adding packages to liveusb will install when you use "install" option
[16:48] <dr_willis> he just pasteed his username and password also? ;)
[16:49] <jrib> heh
[16:49] <apm1> zykotick9, ok thnks for the answer :)
[16:49] <zykotick9> apm1: historically the desktop and server kernels where different - not sure about current
[16:49] <apm1> ok
[16:50] <jrib> zykotick9: currently, there is no separate kernel for server
[16:50] <zykotick9> apm1: see jrib above ;)
[16:50] <zykotick9> jrib: thanks.
[16:50] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[16:50] <apm1> jrib, that means all the non free modules in desktop kernel are also in server kernel ?
[16:51] <apm1> enjoy the show no kidding , lol :p
[16:51] <zykotick9> apm1: if you are looking for a libre-server, see debian
[16:52] <DeLorean731> I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 and firefox and I'm trying to run a java game that seems to be failing to load the plugin (it just sits at a blank screen where the game would normally load). I have installed openjdk-7-jre and icedtea-7-plugin. Any suggestions?
[16:52] <houd> if i knew how to create a linux programm i wont use all this programms (kubuntu ubuntu ...
[16:52] <apm1> zykotick9,  -, i am on debian :p  i am looking for a binary blob containing kernel shipped as default distro ubuntu server looks the best
[16:53] <houd> apml:is debian good
[16:53] <zykotick9> apm1: mixing distro packages = not brilliant
[16:54] <tommyangelo> Hello. Anyone know where the .h file for minizip is hiding? installing zlib1g-dev didn't help. I just get  'fatal error: minizip/unzip.h: No such file or directory'
[16:54] <bhagwat> how to send sms free of cost on ubuntu?
[16:54] <tommyangelo> when compiling
[16:54] <apm1> zykotick9, mixing , no i am looking to do a transition , a clean install ?
[16:54] <Riddell> tommyangelo: packages.ubuntu.com is your friend
[16:54] <mako_reactor> 笑Ubuntuはあなたのたわごとは、あなたの顔の内側に入れて持っているようなものです。
[16:54] <zykotick9> apm1: ahhh, ok, sorry.
[16:54] <houd> whats python
[16:54] <jrib> !jp | mako_reactor
[16:55] <MonkeyDust> mako_reactor  those are all prophanities, stop that please
[16:55] <houd> where can i get fluendo dvd player?
[16:55] <houd> ixsoft?
[16:56] <trism> tommyangelo: only minizip/unzip.h I see is in libvxl1-dev but that is probably not what you want, looks like it was just thrown in there because some part of the app needs it
[16:57] <tommyangelo> Riddell: thanks, but no good. The only package to mention minizip is already installed
[16:57] <tommyangelo> trism: I'll try anyway
[16:58] <houd> where can i get gtstreamer
[16:58] <houd> how can i add sound on xubuntu
[16:58] <MonkeyDust> !info gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3| houd
[16:59] <MonkeyDust> !info gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3 | houd
[16:59] <houd> how can i whatch blurays?gtstreamer0.10??????????????????????????????ßß
[17:00] <MonkeyDust> houd  by not typing ????
[17:00] <houd> lxbdplayer does ont work what shall i doß
[17:00] <houd> "do
[17:00] <MonkeyDust> houd  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/BluRayAndHDDVD
[17:01] <bhagwat> hi friends .. anyone know about kannel installation and procedure to use it?
[17:01] <houd> ük
[17:01] <houd> "ok
[17:02] <Fjdsurewjdfshdkj> Can anyone see my msg?
[17:02] <Pricey> Fjdsurewjdfshdkj: nope
[17:02] <ikonia> Fjdsurewjdfshdkj: many people can
[17:02] <houd> yes we can
[17:02] <Fjdsurewjdfshdkj> Ok thanks!
[17:02] <Fjdsurewjdfshdkj> I thought my irc was screwed again
[17:02] <houd> no we cant:P
[17:03] <jazzkutya> no he can't (he left) :)
[17:03] <Taln> I'm on ubutu 12.04. When I started up my computer I noticed i couldn't see the top and side bars however i have Terminal access. Can someone tell me how to fix this? It is also kinda slow
[17:03] <Taln> I can still click on things in the bar, but again everything is slow and I can't see the top and side bar icons
[17:04] <Taln> Anyone have ideas on how to fix?
[17:04] <tommyangelo> trism: didn't work. Google has got nothing either. Weird. Ah well I'll install from source
[17:05] <houd> Taln: i think you must reboot your computer and if its not fixed you must ask someone other
[17:05] <houd> Taln:as MonkeyDust
[17:05] <Taln> houd: i'v rebooted twice. I  went into the guest account and it was fine
[17:06] <Taln> MonkeyDust: halp
[17:06] <houd> Taln:good :d
[17:06] <houd> ":D
[17:06] <trism> tommyangelo: I notice it is still in the zlib source in the contrib/ directory, maybe it was installed with the package previously?
[17:07] <houd> Taln the guest acount is only for guest.it will delet what you will save on the geust account!!!!!!
[17:08] <SpaceRocket> on Ubuntu 12.10 the USB 3G modem is not able to connect at all,  getting this in syslog "device state change: failed -> disconnected (reason 'none')"
[17:08] <tommyangelo> trism: what do you mean installed with the package
[17:09] <tommyangelo> ?
[17:09] <houd> Taln:the guest account is only for guests.all the things you will save on the guest account will be deleted!!
[17:09] <Taln> houd: right. Do you know how to fix this? What is the process that handles the top and side bar?
[17:09] <sagex> hey
[17:10] <trism> tommyangelo: oh I am just trying to figure out if the package ever shipped minizip headers/libs, but I don't see anything in the changelog about it, so I'm guessing it only ever included the minizip binaries in zlib-bin
[17:11] <trism> tommyangelo: difficult to tell though
[17:11] <tommyangelo> trism: ok I see what you mean now
[17:11] <YatharthROCK> Can you change the system language/locale w/o restarting or relogging? Maybe be restarting lightdm or something? Or restarting init.d (w/e that is)?
[17:12] <sagex> I have a radeon 4200 mobility I installed the amd catalyst drivers and now the window manager is messed up and the windows have to be resized and moved via the right click alternative options also my native resolution is lower than it actually was before I installed the cata* drivers
[17:12] <Taln> YatharthROCK: hat?
[17:12] <Haffe> Could someone help me with this problem? I install Ubuntu to a laptop, chose to use the entire disk. Everytime I reboot I get "grub error: out of disk".
[17:12] <Taln> what
[17:12] <Taln> YatharthROCK: how2?
[17:13] <YatharthROCK> Taln, I didn't understand. hat?
[17:14] <YatharthROCK> Taln, Yes, I want a how-to
[17:15] <sagex> I have class in a couple minutes I'll handle this later on
[17:15] <YatharthROCK> Can you change the system language/locale w/o restarting or relogging? Maybe be restarting lightdm or something? Or restarting init.d (w/e that is)?
[17:15] <sagex> !amd drivers
[17:16] <sagex> !catalyst
[17:16] <mega1> in server12.04 how do i list all services running
[17:16] <Ozera> Right well that didn't fix it
[17:16] <jrib> mega1: services --status-all
[17:17] <Ozera> I am Taln. Does anyone know how to get the top side bars back?
[17:17] <Ozera> I cant see the top and side bars on ubuntu 12.04. However i can click on the icons, but i just cant see them. Also everything is going slow and I still have terminal accesss
[17:17] <Ozera> Is unity what i need to restart?
[17:21] <BioSore> Heya! Does anyone know if it its possible to send SSH commands via a mounted SSHFS from windows?
[17:21] <jrib> BioSore: is there a reason you do not just use putty on windows to send commands?
[17:22] <BioSore> I just wanted an easy to way to automate repeated applications
[17:22] <jrib> BioSore: like what?
[17:23] <RickZilla> Haffe: Bad sectors? might have to do a disk check before installing again
[17:23] <BioSore> i would like to run a transcode script that will transcode and upload the autoput to a server. I have this script (in Python), but would like to run it through SSHFS
[17:23] <houd> Taln:im sorry bu ti can say one think(have you make the updates and have you install the additional hard drives?
[17:23] <jrib> BioSore: run it when?  When you copy a file?
[17:24] <Ozera> houd: what??
[17:24] <houd> you must make updates and install the additional grapic hard drives
[17:24] <Katbuntu> Hello
[17:25] <Ozera> houd: wtf are graphic hard drives
[17:25] <Taint> I keep getting errors about configurations with my monitor
[17:25] <houd> do you use linux on laptop or on pc
[17:25] <Taint> right now the screen looks distorted
[17:25] <Ozera> laptop
[17:25] <BioSore> jrib: I would like to run it by having some form of macro setup so that I can right-click on a file/folder on SSHFS and it sends the command to the server with information concerning the folder I selected
[17:26] <houd> ah you dont need to know it its only fowr pc(if you want to have sound you must install the additional graphic hardrives!
[17:26] <jarco> Hello people, I am looking for sound software to try and make the sound of a space marine vox transmitter/reciever. Is there any linux/ubuntu software that is recommended for this?
[17:27] <Ozera> is unity what is running the stuff houd ?
[17:27] <houd> jarco:go to ubuuntu software center or look for one on the web
[17:27] <Pici> jarco: There are a number of fancy and powerful packages that come with the ubuntustudio-audio metapackage
[17:27] <yhusha> theres no settings for swappyness in the conf file
[17:27] <jrib> BioSore: well for something like that, I imagine it's really a question for ##windows.  You want to add something to a directories right click menu that sends an ssh command over.  I don't see how you would do it otherwise.  I was thinking of a different situation: you could for example use inotify to monitor a directory and automatically perform actions on files added to it
[17:27] <houd> Ozera:sorry i cant  undertand i have cinnamon!
[17:28] <jrib> s/directories/directory's
[17:28] <Ozera> houd: what
[17:28] <Taint> wtf did I do to make the screen so small and have all these monitor errors?
[17:28] <BioSore> jrib: I might be able to use that instead.
[17:28] <houd> Ozera:do you use xubuntu or ubuntu?
[17:28] <jrib> BioSore: in that case look into inotify and incron
[17:29] <Taint> ubuntu
[17:29] <jarco> pici, houd : I was looking for one that is known to be very good. Like gimp is for pixel based image editing
[17:29] <BioSore> thanks, jrib
[17:29] <stefano> hello
[17:29] <houd> ah i understand!
[17:29] <RickZilla> jarco: might try t plugin for audacity
[17:30] <Ozera> houd: Ubuntu 12.04
[17:30] <Pici> jarco: You could ask in #ubuntustudio for specifics.
[17:30] <pratz> how can i bind a key in .bashrc ?
[17:31] <RickZilla> Unity looks like it needs to be on a tablet or something...which wouldn't be a bad deal at all, I just didn't like it on my desktop/laptop
[17:31] <houd> Ozera:you can open a windows programm wich you used with paint if  you used windows
[17:31] <jarco> will do Pici . And i will take a look at audacity plugins RickZilla . Thanks for the suggestions
[17:31] <Ozera> houd: http://pastebin.com/SSS87jpt
[17:31] <Taint> this is the error(s) I get and ubuntu itself is too small.
[17:31] <Taint> http://pastebin.com/89xGWcy9
[17:31] <houd> you
[17:31] <Ozera> houd: why are you telling me about paint
[17:31] <jrib> pratz: what was the answer a few hours ago?
[17:32] <Ozera> Can someone help me fix this please?
[17:32] <houd> Ozera you can insrtall gimp on terminal sudo apt-geet install gimp or blender
[17:32] <Ozera> houd: stop trolling
[17:33] <houd> you can  open windows programms with wine or crossove
[17:33] <pratz> jrib: fair enough, but did not get a good reply from there
[17:33] <Ozera> that is true houd. That is not the issue though
[17:33] <jrib> pratz: you left without asking your question :/
[17:33] <Ozera> My issue is that the top and side bars are missing
[17:33] <houd> paint is a good windows programm but you can use blender or gimp
[17:34] <jrib> pratz: you can use ~/.inputrc .  There are some example in "man bash"
[17:34] <Ozera> jrib: are you able to help me? Here is the erros I am getting when I do: compiz --restart http://pastebin.com/SSS87jpt
[17:34] <RickZilla> Ozera: And this was from a fresh install?
[17:34] <Ozera> RickZilla: no
[17:34] <pratz> jrib: ok, will check them
[17:34] <houd> Ozera:try blender(sudo apt-get install blender
[17:34] <Taint> I don't get this... idk what to do. no resolution is working correctly
[17:35] <RickZilla> Ozera, I don't know if the install disk has the ability to fix errors...I would also look into your disk health, especially if you have things like that missing
[17:35] <Ozera> RickZilla: the guest account works fine
[17:35] <jrib> pratz: you can also use bind like someone else said in #bash
[17:35] <RickZilla> Ozera: it could still be trying to access sectors elsewhere on your other account
[17:35] <pratz> yes, they said to use bind
[17:35] <jarco> RickZilla, Thanks for your suggestion, I am already near the sound with audacity.
[17:36] <Ozera> RickZilla: so how do I fix this?
[17:36] <pratz> but I have not edited .bashrc before and I am not sure how to do it
[17:36] <Pici> pratz: bash's manpage describes how to use bind...
[17:36] <RickZilla> Ozera, you might have to log into your guest account, but find the disk settings, and click on the "SMART" data icon to see what it says
[17:36] <pratz> Pici: jrib i use this - bind '"HISTCONTROL":"\C-h"'  but not working for me
[17:36] <RickZilla> I don't know of the exact path, but it's in there somewhere
[17:37] <pratz> in the sense I have done some mistake, as I have not done this before
[17:37] <jrib> pratz: I don't know... just modifying ~/.inputrc is likely easier.  But I don't use bash, so I can't tell you for sure
[17:37] <Ozera> RickZilla: can i do anything here? Like restart something
[17:37] <usr13> Ozera: are you 12.04 ?
[17:37] <pratz> jrib: ok
[17:38] <Ozera> usr13: yes
[17:38] <usr13> Ozera: fully updated?
[17:38] <RickZilla> Ozera: You have to access your disk properties, I don't know if you can get to them from your broekn Unity or not
[17:38] <Ozera> usr13: not fully updated
[17:38] <usr13> Ozera: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:39] <Pici> pratz: then you should mention what you've tried in #bash, I don't use bash as my login shell, so I can't really help with specifics.
[17:39] <usr13> Ozera: from tty6  (Ctrl-Alt-F6)
[17:39] <pratz> what you guys use then , is it zsh ?
[17:39] <Pici> pratz: usually
[17:39] <Taint> I'm sure this problem will be easy for you guys to solve, I just want to be able to use ubuntu
[17:39]  * jrib nods
[17:40] <usr13> Taint: What is it?
[17:40] <usr13> .... we like easy ...
[17:40] <Taint> keep getting a small screen with a list of errors about my monitor config
[17:40] <Taint> http://pastebin.com/89xGWcy9
[17:41] <Taint> wish I knew how to screenshot it to show how wrong it looks..
[17:42] <RickZilla> Taint: Hit the Print Screen button, then paste that into an image editor
[17:42] <drecute> Taint: Application -> screenshot
[17:43] <usr13> Taint: lspci | pastebinit
[17:43] <usr13> ... and send resulting URL
[17:44] <usr13> Taint: Where did you get http://pastebin.com/89xGWcy9 from?
[17:44] <RickZilla> You guys do it the easy way...I do it the hard way :-)
[17:46] <usr13> Taint: pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[17:46] <Taint> http://www.freeimagehosting.net/c2asz
[17:46] <Pymous> Hello !
[17:46] <Pymous> I just installed a fresh Ubuntu Server, but the root access is declined for password reason
[17:47] <Pymous> What is the default password for root plz ? :)
[17:47] <Ozera_> usr13: I couldn't type so i had to go to the guest account
[17:47] <Ozera_> usr13: So is Unity what is broken?
[17:47] <jazzkutya> Pymous: there is no root password, root account is disabled
[17:48] <usr13> Ozera_: Couldn't type what in?
[17:48] <netmk> !root | Pymous
[17:48] <Ozera_> usr13: the chat box. Everything was very slow
[17:48] <usr13> Ozera_: Couldn't do Ctrl-Alt-F6 ?
[17:48] <Taint> even when I "fix" the resoultion when I restart it goes back to that list of errors
[17:49] <Ozera_> O i didn't see you say that. I pressed: CTRL+ALT+T for the terminal and ran the update
[17:49] <Ozera_> idk if it finished or now
[17:49] <usr13> Ozera_: Oh.  Ok.
[17:49] <usr13> Ozera_: good.
[17:49] <Katbuntu> Huh
[17:49] <Ozera_> usr13: so what is broken? Unity?
[17:49] <usr13> Ozera_: Is it working ok now?
[17:50] <Katbuntu> Which *buntu do yo think it's better for and oldie nvidia 9300M GS card?
[17:50] <Ozera_> usr13: i dont think so. I am on the guest account
[17:50] <Katbuntu> Graphic effects on Kubuntu work well with Nouveau, a bit worse with Nvidia driver
[17:50] <Katbuntu> and Unity on 12.04 is, well, good and I like it. But when I tried 12.10 it was very buggy.
[17:50] <Pymous> Oh right !
[17:50] <|Frodo|> hello! i am running kubuntu 11.4 and try to get a "beep" from my terminal (konsole). but pc-speaker and "normal" loudspeaker don't give any sound if I try "echo $'\a'"! what is wrong here?
[17:50] <Pymous> Debian have one
[17:50] <Pymous> don't him me !
[17:50] <usr13> Ozera_: Should be same on either.  So the update process is done now, right?
[17:50] <shantorn> hi, i have a training video for my wife thats on dvd, what would be a simple way to compress it to fit on a cd size media?
[17:50] <Pymous> hit
[17:50] <FloodBot1> Pymous: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:51] <Ozera_> usr13: i dont think so. I think I restarted before it finished
[17:51] <Taint> why does it say unknown for my monitor?
[17:51] <Ozera_> what was the command usr13 ?
[17:51] <usr13> Ozera_: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:52] <Ozera_> usr13: okay i'm goin back to the broken account
[17:53] <hilo> hello I just ran "chmod 777 * -R" thinking it would make everything in and below chmod 777 when it actually chmod'd my entire filesystem. How can I fix this so my system is not insecure as hell
[17:53] <llutz> hilo: fresh install
[17:53] <hilo> llutz, really the only fix?
[17:53] <llutz> hilo: not the only but the fastest
[17:54] <rumpe1> hilo, reinstall
[17:54] <nonkn4mer> hilo: unless you have a snapshot from before the change
[17:54] <Frostbyte> Little help here please? "testsaslauthd -u *something* -p *something* -s *something*" returns "connect() : No such file or directory 0:" and I can't get it to work.. I may also add that I've set up dovecot/postfix to use mysql as well (if that influences it any), my mailserver works however.. I'm just trying to link the email database with the openvpn.. Any clue?
[17:54] <hilo> so what is the use of the chmod -R option?
[17:55] <nonkn4mer> without the * it would have changed the permissions of whatever was in that folder
[17:55] <nonkn4mer> -R is recursive switch
[17:55] <nonkn4mer> ^^ hilo
[17:55] <rumpe1> hilo, to change file permissions recursively
[17:56] <hilo> Doesn't that usually recurse through directories BELOW the current?
[17:56] <llutz> hilo: it does
[17:56] <jrib> hilo: what directory did you do it in?
[17:56] <hilo> Why did it recurse UPWARDS and chmod my entire filesystem when I was in a folder below the root
[17:56] <Frostbyte> heya llutz, got some time to help me sort something? :p
[17:56] <nonkn4mer> hilo: * is a wildcard in bash basically meaning "anything"  so your syntax said chmod 777 anything on the filesystem, as well as whatever was inside any folders
[17:56] <llutz> Frostbyte: sry no, have to leave soon. you got your dovecot running=
[17:56] <llutz> ?
[17:57] <hilo> Yeah but when I ran the command I was in "/array" not "/"
[17:57] <Frostbyte> llutz : yeap, now I'm trying to link it with my openvpn
[17:57] <nonkn4mer> the * wildcard in your syntax negated the working directory
[17:57] <jazzkutya> nonkn4mer: i don't think that's true
[17:57] <hilo> Then what is the syntax for chmod everything in and below the current directory
[17:58] <Pymous> chmod -R
[17:58] <jazzkutya> hilo: safer is chmod -R .
[17:58] <LuizAngioletti> Hello
[17:58] <LuizAngioletti> Where can I get the original sources.list for quantal
[17:58] <LuizAngioletti> ?
[17:58] <jazzkutya> hilo: have you had a symlink maybe somewhere deep in /array to the root dir?
[17:58] <nonkn4mer> jazzkutya: checking the man page to verify my fact... you may be correct
[17:58] <nonkn4mer> jazzkutya: er... verify my statement
[17:58] <Frostbyte> llutz : trying to make the openvpn pull user/pass from the mail db through pam_mysql now
[17:58] <Haffe> RickZilla: The disc is brand new.
[17:58] <Haffe> Bought it yesterday.
[17:59] <hilo> jazzkutya, not sure. trying to fix something for someone and broke it entirely :(
[17:59] <Ozera> usr13: okay i'm on the broken account
[17:59] <Ozera> i'm running the update
[17:59] <Frostbyte> llutz : but for some reason, I cannot test the authentication.. that's why I need help :p
[17:59] <bobweaver> hilo,  what permissions are you changing ? all files or re there some folder in there too ?
[17:59] <jardineworks> any chance someone can help me figure out why ubuntu hates me? :) I can only seem to get sound out of my laptop speakers -- even when my headphones are jacked. I have  found a lot of posts online about this but so far can't seem to resolve.
[17:59] <jazzkutya> as * does not expand . and .. dirs I also don't know how could that command get to the root if the working directory was really /array
[18:00] <jardineworks> any audiophiles in here that can help?
[18:00] <llutz> Frostbyte: ya i read it but i don't have any idea where to look
[18:00] <hilo> bobweaver, every file in every folder in the directory /array (Which is a mountpoint for a raid array)
[18:00] <nonkn4mer> jazzkutya: looks like you were right.  * only applies to current directory.  You are probably right with the symlink.  sorry for distributing incorrect info
[18:00] <Frostbyte> llutz : I've looked around.. the part I'm stuck is that testsaslauthd doesn't work as the articles tell
[18:00] <Ozera> usr13: last night i installed EVE with winetricks. Do you think that is what broke Unity?
[18:00] <mns> how do I get Update Manager to make use of a proxy rathern then a direct connection ?
[18:01] <rumpe1> mns, tsocks
[18:01] <Frostbyte> llutz : http://now-code.com/archives/662 check 5.3
[18:01] <llutz> hilo: i just tested that, chmod behaves as expected here. do you have any symlink to / below /array?
[18:02] <jazzkutya> jardineworks: what would be the problem? (not really audiophile but a bit into hi-fi)
[18:02] <Frostbyte> llutz : instead of OK "Success" I get connect() : No such file or directory 0:
[18:02] <jazzkutya> jardineworks: i see now
[18:02] <jardineworks> jazzkutya, I have an alienware m17x. Sounds works out of the main speakers no issue. I plug in the headphones, no sound.
[18:02] <evangelosavgerin> hello all
[18:02] <hilo> llutz, I don't think so. how can I test?
[18:03] <bobweaver> hilo,  cool you know that you can use things like "find"  to set the "type" and also then use exec to change permissions     example:   find /path/to/foo -type f -exec chmod 644 -exec {} \;
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[18:03] <BigC85> mns I think if you set up a proxy on your defualt internet connection I dont think you  can do it for updates its self
[18:03] <hilo> I figured out why
[18:03] <llutz> Frostbyte: does the warning on http://gogs.info/books/debian-mail/chunked/postfix.sasl.html  help?
[18:04] <jazzkutya> jardineworks: try looking for something like "pulseaudio profiles" in system settings
[18:04] <llutz> hilo: layer-8 problem, typo (/*) ?
[18:04] <Frostbyte> llutz : I've also read that article, however I'm kinda afraid to touch it.. because it might mess my working email.. shall I attempt it?
[18:04] <hilo> It seems I put a typo (my "." key presses when you brush your hand over it) and the command that actually got entered was "chmod 777 .* -R"
[18:04] <nonkn4mer> llutz: first time i've ever heard layer 8.  Going to start using that now :)
[18:04] <hilo> That .* would cause this correct?
[18:05] <gordonjcp> jardineworks: when you plug the headphones in, does it change the volume?  I've had that before...
[18:05] <jardineworks> jazzkutya, I don't see anything like that under system settings
[18:05] <jardineworks> doesn't appear to
[18:05] <jardineworks> I used alsamixer to make sure the volume was up
[18:05] <llutz> hilo: yes, when run with sudo , .* expands to ".." too and there you are
[18:05] <gordonjcp> jardineworks: and in the normal pulseaudio mixer?
[18:05] <bobweaver> hilo,  why 777 ? that can be dangerous ?
[18:06] <jazzkutya> jardineworks: sorry can't help more as i'm not at home where my kubuntu is and this new pulseaudio stuff is new for me too
[18:06] <Ozera> usr13: What do I do after the update finishes?
[18:06] <hilo> bobweaver, trying to share the array with samba (well really I'm open to options) but can't get anything to work
[18:06] <gordonjcp> jardineworks: sometimes you need to edit a config file to tell the sound module what sort of card it is
[18:06] <jardineworks> gordonjcp, how do I bring the pulse audio mixer up?
[18:06] <nonkn4mer> Ozera: shutdown -r now
[18:06] <gordonjcp> jardineworks: the wee speaker symbol in the top right
[18:06] <llutz> Frostbyte: make sure to have an actual backup. but i don't know if that really applies to your situation.
[18:06] <jardineworks> hahaha
[18:07] <bobweaver> !samba | hilo  you have rad this ?
[18:07] <jardineworks> duh
[18:07] <Ozera> nonkn4mer: it isn't finished just yet but okay
[18:07] <jardineworks> :)
[18:07] <hilo> bobweaver, files saved from other machines via samba save as the user "501" and group "dialout"
[18:07] <llutz> nonkn4mer: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Layer_8
[18:07] <gordonjcp> jardineworks: your audio chip is most likely intel, but the Intel HDA chips are wired up all kinds of different ways on different boards
[18:07] <Ozera> nonkn4mer: is Unity what is broken?
[18:07] <Frostbyte> llutz : basicly, I had no saslauthd in /var/run, so I made the symlink and it worked.. I'll take it from here, thanks for suggesting that I should do it :p
[18:07] <hilo> bobweaver, I feel like I've read every tutorial there is on samba and can't get it to work in any mode other than guest access to everything
[18:07] <jardineworks> gordonjcp, when I open that I can see the headphones as an option (selected) and the speakers.
[18:07] <gordonjcp> jardineworks: in Windows you get a specific sound driver that works on your motherboard and no other, that tells the sound driver how to look at the Intel HDA ports, but in Linux you don't have that
[18:08] <jardineworks> no difference in here no matter what I choose
[18:08] <gordonjcp> so you have to tell the driver yourself ;-)
[18:08] <bobweaver> hilo,  I am not v.good with samba TBH others are though ;)
[18:08] <jardineworks> gordonjcp, fair enough -- how or where do I do that?
[18:08] <hilo> bobweaver, I also tried NFS initially but file transfers would drop everytime making it unusable
[18:09] <gordonjcp> jardineworks: well, I'm having a wee look around on Google, but you could also try googling something like "ubuntu alienware m17x no sound"
[18:09] <gordonjcp> jardineworks: which I'm sure you've done already ;-)
[18:09] <jardineworks> gordonjcp, been doing that for weeks haha
[18:09] <jardineworks> gordonjcp, I have even seen a bunch of SOLVED! .. but none of them are working for me
[18:09] <nonkn4mer> Ozera: not sure.  haven't been following your issue.  just answered the "what to do after update" question.  sorry
[18:09] <bobweaver> jardineworks,  what is output of   "aplay -l "  ?
[18:10] <gordonjcp> jardineworks: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+question/209892
[18:10] <gordonjcp> jardineworks: does that describe your problem?
[18:10] <gordonjcp> jardineworks: or is that you? :-)
[18:10] <ztgu> Hello, anyone here who can help me with finding a linux compatible laptop?
[18:11] <jardineworks> gordonjcp, not me, but same machine
[18:11] <bobweaver> ztgu,  there are oem's that ship Ubuntu Now like Dell
[18:11] <jardineworks> gordonjcp, I just found a post that said upgrade to ubuntu 12.11 to fix it. I didn't even know that 12.11 was out
[18:11] <gordonjcp> 12.10 is
[18:11] <gordonjcp> 12.11 won't be ;-)
[18:11] <bobweaver> ztgu,  google project sputnick
[18:12] <jardineworks> lol
[18:12] <jardineworks> sorry... I think the person meant 12.10
[18:12] <bobweaver> ztgu,  http://content.dell.com/us/en/gen/d/campaigns/xps-linux-laptop
[18:12] <Ozera> nonkn4mer: I can't see the top or side bars and everything is laggy. I'm on Ubuntu 12.04
[18:12] <jardineworks> they said they upgraded from 12.04 (whcih is what I am using)
[18:12] <gordonjcp> jardineworks: anyway it may be that the 3.2 kernel hasn't got the right magic yes
[18:12] <gordonjcp> *yet
[18:12] <BigC85> ztgu system 76
[18:12] <hilo> llutz, bobweaver is there a long way that I could use to manually fix this filesystem in place? The server is not physically available to me which really makes a reformat a difficult solution...
[18:12] <Ozera> nonkn4mer: I can still click where the icons would be but i cant see them.
[18:12] <gordonjcp> jardineworks: that's what it comes down to though, the Intel HDA chips are just wired up so many different ways
[18:13] <bobweaver> ztgu,  there is also things like system 76 and also pugett sound computers
[18:13] <gordonjcp> jardineworks: you end up with really weirdass problems where two *identical* machines don't behave the same, because they have different board steppins
[18:13] <ztgu> I want to install linux on a windows laptop
[18:13] <gordonjcp> *steppings
[18:13] <nonkn4mer> an easy way to tell would be to log out, and change your desktop manager
[18:13] <nonkn4mer> ^^ Ozera
[18:13] <gordonjcp> jardineworks: literally, two brand new machines out the crate, and one has totally different sound hardware to the other
[18:14] <jardineworks> gordonjcp, awesome. (insert sarcastic emoticon here)
[18:14] <gordonjcp> jardineworks: PCs are horrible
[18:14] <bobweaver> ztgu,  http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/
[18:14] <KI4RO> ztgu:http://tuxmobil.org/laptop_manufacturer.html
[18:14] <nonkn4mer> Ozera: are you married to Unity or can you switch it to something else?
[18:15] <jrib> hilo: if you have a reference for the known good permissions, you can use getfacl and setfacl to rectify the permissions
[18:15] <jardineworks> gordonjcp, I dunno... apart from this one issue, I have had no problems with this laptop and it is incredibly fast and sturdy (for what I am doing)
[18:16] <jardineworks> gordonjcp, just wish I could listen to something other than silence haha
[18:16] <cambazz> hello, i am trying to a dist upgrade and i can not.. it keeps asking for inserting ubuntu 12.04 LTS precise pangolin cd, and i downloaded it and put it but it stalls
[18:16] <compdoc> cambazz, is the PC connected to the web?
[18:17] <bobweaver> cambazz,  from 11.10 to 12.04 ?
[18:17] <SpaceRocket> unable to connect Huwaei K3770 however it's readable by the network manager but fails to establish network connection
[18:17] <cambazz> yes
[18:17] <ztgu> what about fedora certified laptops?
[18:17] <cambazz> bobweaver: yes
[18:17] <cambazz> pardon
[18:17] <bobweaver> ztgu,  ask in ##fedora
[18:17] <cambazz> 10.04LTS
[18:17] <jrib> hilo: also, if you messed up the permissions on /etc/sudoers you won't be able to sudo so make sure you fix that before closing any open sudo sessions you have...
[18:17] <cambazz> when I run update manager it says: Not all updates can be installed
[18:17] <bobweaver> !info do-release-upgrade | cambazz  this is what you are using ?
[18:18] <bobweaver> spelling
[18:18] <diverdude> Is there a tool similar to gparted which also handles raid setup and can format/delete etc. large HDDs (4TB) quickly?
[18:18] <bobweaver> !info   do-release-upgrade
[18:18] <cambazz> ubottu: no. or i dont know
[18:18] <bobweaver> huh dumb bot  cambazz  are you using  do-release-upgrade  to upgrade  ?
[18:19] <hilo> jrib, please elaborate? the permissions for everything in the fs got changed to 777
[18:19] <cambazz> bobweaver: now I am :) :)
[18:19] <gordonjcp> jardineworks: you don't fancy upgrading to 12.10?
[18:19] <jrib> hilo: what are your permissions on /etc/sudoers?
[18:20] <cambazz> WARNING: Failed to read mirror file
[18:20] <cambazz> WARNING: Failed to read mirror file
[18:20] <cambazz> ow
[18:20] <cambazz> pardon
[18:20] <jardineworks> gordonjcp, sorry? I think you missed a work in there
[18:20] <hilo> jrib, 777
[18:21] <hilo> jrib, literally everything is 777... it's retarded...
[18:21] <bobweaver> cambazz,  ok cd /etc/apt/     then    gksudo  gedit sources.list          is the one for the cd commented out ?
[18:21] <bobweaver> !pastebin | cambazz  you can pastebin that file for use to see ?  thank's
[18:21] <jrib> hilo: you probably can't use sudo then.  Do you have an open session where you are root?  Or a root password set?
[18:22] <hilo> nope I cant sudo
[18:22] <hilo> crap
[18:22] <hilo> so that system is totally fubar??
[18:22] <diverdude> Is there a tool similar to gparted which also handles raid setup and can format/delete etc. large HDDs (4TB) quickly?
[18:22] <cambazz> here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1408438/
[18:22] <bobweaver> thanks cambazz  looking now
[18:23] <hilo> "must be setuid to sudo"
[18:23] <cambazz> btw, it is doing do-release-upgrade
[18:23] <cambazz> with mising packages
[18:23] <hilo> fack
[18:23] <jrib> hilo: well unless you have a root password or some session open where you did "sudo -i" for example, then you need some sort of physical access (or similar) to rectify the situation
[18:23] <bobweaver> ok cambazz  look at lines  6 --9
[18:23] <jrib> hilo: and even then, a fresh install is going to be easier anyway
[18:24] <jardineworks> gordonjcp, curious... the update manager doesn't notify me that there is an upgrade available.
[18:24] <cambazz> ok what aobut them
[18:24] <hilo> jrib, yeah fresh install is the only option
[18:24] <bobweaver> cambazz,  put a # in the start of line 6
[18:24] <hilo> jrib, Plans reorganized around physical travel... reformat and reinstall at 5pm
[18:24] <hilo> jrib, since I can't sudo, how can I mount a usb device or similar to backup data from the system
[18:25] <cambazz> bobweaver: ok and then?
[18:25] <bobweaver> cambazz,  should look like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/1408446/
[18:25] <bobweaver> cambazz,  then save the file and run in terminal     sudo do-release-upgrade
[18:25] <jrib> hilo: it should get mounted automatically, no?  Or try using udisks?  If that fails, just boot a live cd
[18:25] <jardineworks> gordonjcp, ah -- there it is. Had the "LTS notification" options checked.
[18:26] <SpaceRocket> 3G USB modem not working after upgrade to 12.10
[18:26] <hilo> thanks all
[18:26] <Frostbyte> llutz : still doesn't wanna work.. it ignores the sql setting and it keeps looking on shadow file : /
[18:27] <cambazz> bobweaver: thank you trying again
[18:27] <bobweaver> cambazz,  what do you mean try again ?
[18:28] <Catbuntu> ohai
[18:34] <vengamacho> holaaa
[18:34] <vengamacho> argún españó?
[18:34] <EntropyWorks> whats the deal with 12.10 and the new naming of NIC's.
[18:35] <EntropyWorks> I sometimes get em3 and then reboot and get rename4 other times...
[18:35] <bobweaver> !Spanish | vengamacho
[18:40] <daveinlv> Does an "apt-get --purge remove mysql-server remove the /var/lib/mysql databases?
[18:41] <jrib> daveinlv: probably not.  Check which package provides that directory using dpkg -S
[18:41] <daveinlv> ok ty!!
[18:42] <jrib> daveinlv: is there a reason you ask though?
[18:45] <daveinlv> jrib: I seem to have bollixed up my mysql install, such that even when entering the known correct admin pswd for mysql, I get told it is wrong.. I think I know what caused it, I had been using webmin to admin mysql... all the sudden webmin was prompting for the mysql root password, which I had NOT changed..
[18:45] <jrib> daveinlv: you can just reset that
[18:46] <zykotick9> !webmin | daveinlv are you aware of this?
[18:46] <jrib> daveinlv: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MysqlPasswordReset
[18:46] <jrib> and yes, webmin isn't recommended
[18:46] <daveinlv> jrib: yeah... already did the "dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.5" and mysql still sez its wrong
[18:46] <jrib> daveinlv: follow the steps in that link
[18:47] <daveinlv> jrib: thank you...
[18:51] <moon`> is there a command you need to run after installing cinnamon or should it just show up?
[18:52]  * zykotick9 thinks cinnamon needs a factoid...
[18:52] <Perkol> Hello. I can't connect Vidalia to Tor. When i start it just show me that tor is not running. Meanwhile, Tor daemon is running. Any ideas?
[18:52]  * jrib nominates zykotick9 to write one :)
[18:53] <bobweaver> Perkol,  is Tor connecting on start up ?
[18:54] <RickZilla> moon': You have to log out, then log back in again with the 'cinnamon' setting
[18:54] <moon`> okay, brb
[18:54] <moon`> thanks rickzilla
[18:55] <xangua> Perkol: are you using the bundled it's provided at the tor web¿
[18:55] <Perkol> No, i installed Vidalia and Tor separately. I'm not using browser bundle.
[18:57] <xangua> Perkol: well you should, is what they recomend and it's easier anyways ;)
[18:57] <ontime> Guys... I have an old tower that I need to run ubuntu on and set up bonding because of the sporadic connectivity of my two ISP's.   Is it possible (I imagine it is) to run ubuntu live and set up bonding?  Thanks.
[18:57] <bekks> ontime: Bonding will not do what you want at that point.
[18:58] <bekks> Since having different gateways, you cant setup bonding on both adapters.
[18:58] <ontime> oh, I see bekks.
[18:58] <nonkn4mer> ontime: sounds like you want a router with loadbalance/failover, not nic bonding
[18:58] <ontime> so OpenWRT is probably my only bet.
[18:59] <bekks> Or IPCop, or something like that.
[18:59] <EntropyWorks> shouldn't /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules have something in it on 12.10? I just did a fresh install and its empty.
[18:59] <ontime> yes nonkn4mer, that's what I need.
[19:00] <nonkn4mer> ontime: depending on the size of your network, I set up a SonicWall NSA220 for my office (supporting ~60 users) and it's been working well.  I have garbage Cox coax coming in and garbage Century Link DSL for failover
[19:01] <ontime> nonkn4mer: that unit is out of my price range :p
[19:02] <compdoc> EntropyWorks, havent tried 12.10. Is networking working? maybe network manager is controlling
[19:02] <nonkn4mer> ontime: that is just what I use.  I would assume most decent routers will give you a LB/FO option...
[19:02] <ontime> nonkn4mer: most Dual WAN routers, you mean?
[19:02] <EntropyWorks> this is on a server install btw.
[19:02] <mwic> Does anyone know where the Time Tracker application stores its data?
[19:02] <mwic> I need to recover mine
[19:03] <daveinlv> jrib: Went thru that mysql password reset procedure, and no joy... if I run "mysql -u root" I'm not prompted for a password, and once I'm in via "mysql -u root" if I try to use any of the dbs on the server, I'm told I don't have rights for it...  sigh
[19:03] <zykotick9> ontime: fyi, pFsense (a bsd firewall distro) does support 2 WANs/ISPs
[19:04] <jrib> daveinlv: mysql -u root -p
[19:04] <ontime> zykotick9: thanks, I've noted it.
[19:04] <compdoc> EntropyWorks, there are commands to force
[19:04] <bkfitz> Anyone here used Cisco Cloud Connect or DLink MyDLink to access router attached usb drive NAS storage from the outside
[19:05] <EntropyWorks> compdoc: in 12.10 server at least, you won't have eth0 ,1,2 for built in network cards. instead you will get em1,2,3 but I'm having em3 sometime come up as rename4 instead.
[19:05] <daveinlv> jrib: that DOES prompt for a password, but when I enter the password I just put in with the procedure you gave, I get "access denied for user 'root'@'localhost" using password = yes
[19:06] <jrib> daveinlv: what did you do exactly?
[19:06] <jrib> daveinlv: when you reset the password
[19:06] <daveinlv> jrib: I'm not sure.. again, it was via webmin, which up until NOW, had always worked fine for me...
[19:07] <jrib> daveinlv: I mean just now, what did you do to reset the password?
[19:07] <jrib> daveinlv: by the way, do you have untrusted users connecting to mysql?
[19:07] <daveinlv> The link you gave me https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MysqlPasswordReset
[19:07] <jrib> daveinlv: there are several methods on that page
[19:09] <daveinlv> jrib: did the alternate method, and the root acct that can access from anywhere.. the server is an ubuntu/xen vps.
[19:09] <jrib> daveinlv: do step 3
[19:10] <krabador> i installed nvidia 173 driver from the site, because nvidia-173 on synaptic isn't updated tu support ABI 13 (xorg-server 1.13), i've problems with unity and gnome shell, blank screen and pointer.what can i do?
[19:10] <daveinlv> The firewall blocks mysql/3306 access, I have an OpenVPN connection I use to admin the server...
[19:11] <moon`> is compiz stable on a 64bit 12.10 build?
[19:11] <Mohawk> Can someone help me?
[19:12] <moon`> Mohawk: you're better off asking your question and waiting for a response rather that asking if someone can help you.  Ask and if they can they will
[19:12] <Ozera> nonkn4mer: are you still here?
[19:12] <zykotick9> Mohawk: ask you question and see.  give details, all on one line.
[19:12] <Mohawk> My login screen is weird. It is different than my settings. It replicates the two screens instead of exnteding them like i want it to
[19:13] <Ozera> I'm on ubuntu 12.04. I can't see the top or side bars and everything is very laggy. I can access terminal and still click on side bar icons but i cant see them
[19:13] <Ozera> Can someone tell me how to fix this?
[19:13] <Mohawk> the settings, i set to extend the displays, does not work for the login screen
[19:13] <bobweaver> Ozera,  you have tried reseting the icons from command line ?
[19:14] <Ozera> bobweaver: how do I do that?
[19:14] <daveinlv> jrib: I'm not sure what you mean by "step 3"... there is one line numbered "3", but its just "SET PASSWORD FOR root@'localhost' = PASSWORD('password');
[19:14] <bobweaver> Ozera,  unity --reset-icons
[19:14] <EntropyWorks> compdoc: do you know the command to force the creation of the 70-presistent-net.rules doing INTERFACE=em3 /lib/udev/write_net_rules doesn't do the trick, just errors with missing valid match
[19:14] <Ozera> i shall try that now
[19:14] <jrib> daveinlv: yes, I mean follow the procedure on that page and include the step you just quoted
[19:14] <daveinlv> ok will do
[19:15] <Mohawk> And I have another issue, My computer, with the dual screens, when I try to enlarge the display on my secondary (laptop) screen, it enlarges it and puts it on my main display
[19:15] <CruX|> hello google talk is not working in chrome under 64 bit ubuntu
[19:15] <CruX|> why ?
[19:16] <Mohawk> So no one can help me?
[19:16] <daveinlv> jrib: on step 2 "FLUSH PRIVILEGES" I get access denied, you need at least one of the RELOAD privileges for this operation
[19:17] <jrib> daveinlv: did you stop mysql and start it with --skip-grant-tables --skip-networking like the first steps 1 and 2 say?
[19:19] <daveinlv> jrib: no not this time I didn't... I read those steps as part of the previous steps 1 and 2 - guess I just misunderstood that part
[19:23] <krabador> i installed nvidia 173 driver from the site, because nvidia-173 on synaptic isn't updated tu support ABI 13 (xorg-server 1.13), i've problems with unity and gnome shell, blank screen and pointer.what can i do?
[19:23] <daveinlv> jrib: after running mysqld with --skip-grant-tables and --skip-networking, I get "cant find any matching row in the user table" when I do "set password for root@'localhost' = password('password');
[19:24] <Megido> hi
[19:24] <Megido> who install steam ?
[19:24] <moon`> what's the difference between libre office and open office?
[19:24] <krabador> Megido, i but i'm not a tester
[19:24] <Megido> steam work?
[19:24] <krabador> moon`, the license
[19:24] <krabador> Megido, yes
[19:24] <Megido> hmm
[19:24] <jrib> daveinlv: ok, maybe #mysql can help you better then
[19:24] <Megido> how u install?
[19:25] <Megido> u have link?
[19:25] <Noskcaj> Noskcaj, is disappointed in moon
[19:25] <krabador> Megido, yes wait a moment
[19:25] <Megido> ok
[19:25] <Ozera> I'm on the guest account now. I couldn't type anything in the broken acount
[19:25] <gimpy54> I'm having a problem with wifi on 12.04 with an Intel 6250.  It connects but keeps disconnecting over and over again.  This works fine on Fedora, what could be the problem?  i already disbaled wireless N for the iwlwifi module.
[19:26] <Ozera> can someone try and help me? I tried updating but then it ended with a: dpkg interrupted. or something like that
[19:26] <krabador> Megido, http://steamforlinux.com/?q=en/node/130
[19:26] <upset> I ran mypaint from the terminal on my resistive tablet computer and it said: Device "eGalax Inc. USB TouchController" has a pressure axis Skipping "eGalax Inc. USB TouchController" (not in the list of known tablets)
[19:26] <florin> hei
[19:26] <upset> Does anyone know what this list it's referring to is?
[19:26] <daveinlv> jrib: I see at the bottom of the page you gave me that there is "another way, purge"... it says you lose your data, but how about if I have saved the /var/lib/mysql directory elsewhere??
[19:26] <Guest36921> k
[19:27] <Ozera> I'm on ubuntu 12.04 and i can't see the top or side bars. Everything is very laggy, but i can still access terminal and click on icons and everything. Does anyone know what is wrong and how to fix it?
[19:28] <upset> Ozera: Woah. What happened?
[19:28] <Megido> krabador: hmm
[19:28] <upset> Ozera: What was going on right before?
[19:29] <Ozera> upset: I booted up my laptop and it was just like it. Before I was working on installing eve and I was fiddling with Winetricks a lot
[19:29] <Megido> krabador: i try install steam from this deb on gentoo but after update steam cant find steamui.so
[19:29] <jrib> daveinlv: if you've backed up your data properly and have ensured you can restore your data, then I guess you can do that if you wish
[19:29] <Ozera> upset: the guest account worksjust fine
[19:29] <Megido> or libsteam.so
[19:29] <krabador> Megido, i've no problem with this
[19:29] <upset> Ozera: Oh gosh. That doesn't quite make sense.
[19:29] <daveinlv> jrib: ok tyvm for the help!
[19:30] <Ozera> upset: Yeah I have no idea what went wrong. Is unity what has broken on my machine? Compiz?
[19:30] <upset> Ozera: Do you have anything interesting installed that affects your desktop?
[19:30] <Ozera> upset: this is a laptop. And no i dont.
[19:30] <upset> Ozera: Did it require you to mess with Compiz?
[19:30] <Ozera> upset: mmm...honestly i just fucked with Winetricks to make EVE install
[19:30] <upset> Ozera: Do you have any other DEs installed?
[19:30] <Ozera> DES?
[19:31] <upset> Ozera: Desktop environments
[19:31] <krabador> Megido, and i can enter with  steam://open/games without problems
[19:31] <upset> Ozera: Gnome, Pantheon, KDE, whatever
[19:31] <Ozera> upset: I dont think so. I never changed anything from the isntall
[19:32] <krabador> Megido, it's an ubuntu package, you know isn't sure that works everywhere, like debian debs on ubuntu
[19:32] <upset> Ozera: So you're saying you had a vanilla install, nothing like a wallpaper changer or anything, and then you messed with Wine, and then this?
[19:32] <upset> Ozera: No new startup applications?
[19:33] <LuizAngioletti> hello
[19:33] <Ozera> upset: o no. This install has been on ehre for a long long time. I'm just saying i never messed with Desktop Environments
[19:33] <LuizAngioletti> I was wondering how does Ubuntu manage wi-fi connections underneath Network-manager.
[19:33] <upset> Ozera: Get synaptic and use it to check for broken packages. Do you need help doing that?
[19:33] <cambazz> hello, after do-dist-upgrade , (it exited with status -1) my ubuntu will not reboot
[19:33] <cambazz> it will say the disk drive for / not ready yet or present
[19:34] <Ozera> upset: Yeah i am going to need help doing that.
[19:34] <cambazz> contunie to wait , S to skip, m for manual recovery
[19:34] <upset> Ozera: Sudo apt-get install synaptic
[19:34] <upset> *sudo
[19:35] <Ozera> upset: wait do't I already ahve that?
[19:35] <ProfessorBacon> IN MY MOUTH?
[19:35] <upset> Ozera: You may.
[19:35] <upset> Ozera: Enter the command anyway, it will tell you if you have it.
[19:35] <Ozera> upset: it will be hard to tell once i go to the broken account to try and fix
[19:35] <upset> Ozera: You don't need to enter the broken account
[19:36] <Ozera> upset: i dont?
[19:36] <upset> Ozera: No. You can use root permissions anywhere, I'm pretty sure.
[19:36] <Megido> krabador: this libs have in steam directory
[19:36] <Ozera> upset: that...sounds like a very serious security flaw.
[19:36] <Ozera> bt it works in my favor
[19:37] <krabador> Megido, probably the user can't run it
[19:37] <upset> Ozera: It's not. Anyone who is root and has root password can use it. Don't hand that out and it can only be convenient (for situations like this)
[19:37] <krabador> Megido, permission stuff...
[19:37] <Megido> i try run as root
[19:37] <Ozera> upset: er no i cant: http://pastebin.com/a2aBjUT4
[19:39] <upset> Ozera: Yuck. Okay, strange. Hold on a sec
[19:39] <Pymous> Small question ! How can I copy/paste on a Ubuntu Server on a Virtual Machine ? :)
[19:39] <Ozera> upset: okay. I think i may have to go to the broken account because i cant even log in as root
[19:39] <upset> Ozera: No, hold on.
[19:39] <upset> Ozera: Do you know what root is?
[19:40] <Ozera> upset: it is super user. su
[19:40] <upset> Ozera: Cool. So just for clarity's sake, could you post the exact command?
[19:40] <Ozera> mhm
[19:41] <Ozera> http://pastebin.com/Chm4TaRW @ upset
[19:43] <upset> Ozera: This is a toughie. Can you run frontend apps in your broken user account?
[19:43] <rar_rar> I've got nagios running in KVM/qemu and trying to get audio alerts through. But getting  apparmor="DENIED" operation="exec" parent=16584 profile="libvirt-xxx" name="/usr/bin/pulseaudio" warnings and no sound.  Any advice on apparmor and getting kvm to pass sound?
[19:43] <dmcoxfree> whats up with the windows installer mid d/l giving error files not found therefore no iso? kubuntu wants me to donate but why?
[19:44] <Ozera> upset: What do you mean? I can start everything up, but again it is very very laggy. I can click on the icons that would be on the side bar, but i can not see them.
[19:44] <CharlesWaldman> hi.  i'm running Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS, just did an 'apt-get update; apt-get upgrade' and now there's a problem with .png files .... eog can't display them, apps which use png icons (e.g. pidgin) display broken icons.  but firefox can load a png
[19:44] <dmcoxfree> ive installed ubuntu with no problems but kunbutu is a bitch getting .
[19:45] <gimpy54> I'm having a problem with wifi on 12.04 with an Intel 6250.  It connects but keeps disconnecting over and over again.  This works fine on Fedora, what could be the problem?  i already disbaled wireless N for the iwlwifi module.
[19:45] <upset> Ozera: Oh, that's not as bad as I thought. Well, first thing I recommend is installing synaptic from the broken account and going to edit-->fix broken packages
[19:46] <Ozera> okay
[19:46] <Ozera> is that it? I have to leave in ~ 4min for class
[19:46] <zykotick9> upset: fyi "sudo apt-get -f install" does the same thing...
[19:46] <dmcoxfree> cant justify donating to a kubuntu if the d/l fails.
[19:46] <upset> zykotick9: Yeah, but GUI frontends are less scary.
[19:47] <savio> upset,  apt-get check also fix broken package no?
[19:47] <upset> zykotick9: Also he could then learn about other things he could do
[19:47] <Ozera> upset: eh?
[19:47] <upset> Ozera: You should come back later if it doesn't work, I am also in class
[19:48] <alinmear> hi all! i have questions regarding nfs4: is it as secure as samba (nfs4 without kerberos authent.); is the transfer encrypted?
[19:48] <Ozera> o okay. Welp: sudo apt-get isntall synaptic
[19:48] <Ozera> then edit --> fix broken packages
[19:48] <Ozera> gotcha
[19:48] <zykotick9> alinmear: nfs is not encrypted.  i don't think samba is either...
[19:49] <bekks> alinmear: Samba transfer isnt encrypted at all.
[19:50] <alinmear> zykotick9: i want to use it for my linux enviroment at home? can i use it without kerberos and ssh for save use on wlan or not?
[19:50] <alinmear> bekks: thank you
[19:51] <bekks> alinmear: No. Use sshfs if you have to rely on an insecure wlan.
[19:53] <alinmear> bekks: when is use sshfs is there a way for limitating the access to the nfs4 share; i think right now when my wlan gets compromised everybody is able to mount my share, isnt it?
[19:54] <bekks> No, it isnt. You have to define the access to your shares.
[19:55] <alinmear> bekks: ah ok, thx for reply!
[19:56] <searching> In /etc/lxdm/lxdm.conf the theme of greeter theme=Industrial
[19:56] <ForSpareParts> I just installed 12.10 and Chrome isn't appearing in the list of running programs in the alt-tab window switcher. Any clue why?
[19:56] <cory__> hello i need some help with my ubuntu 12.10 it is not finding the wifi everything else in house does
[19:57] <searching> I have Lubuntu Default
[19:57] <cory__> hello i need some help with my ubuntu 12.10 it is not finding the wifi everything else in house does
[19:58] <arronhunt> cory__ can it just not find your network or is it any wifi network?
[19:59] <TheLordOfTime> !repeat | cory__
[19:59] <SpaceRocket> after I installed kubuntu-desktop on Ubuntu  and while I'm on Unity, many apps like xchat are using the KDE look & feel, how do I restore the GTK look to all apps?
[20:00] <cory__> i ahve d-link and it is not finding it and it can work ethernet cord but there is no wifi connecation
[20:00] <cory__> i cant find it, i am very new to software
[20:01] <riseandshine> cory i had the same problem did you try just enter the ssid and the password?
[20:01] <guilhermekfe> I wanna install Ubuntu 12.10 on my laptop, there is currently 11GB free for it, is it ok to create a developing environment? My RAM's size is 6GB, should I add swap?
[20:01] <cory__> where do i find the ssid
[20:01] <riseandshine> the ssid is the network name you gave your network
[20:01] <cory__> riseandshine where do i find the ssid
[20:02] <marios> good evening
[20:02] <cory__> so would it be a number or a name because the name is d-link
[20:03] <riseandshine> depends on what you choose in your access point
[20:03] <SpaceRocket> after I installed kubuntu-desktop on Ubuntu  and while I'm on Unity, many apps like xchat are using the KDE look & feel, how do I restore the GTK look to all apps?
[20:03] <riseandshine> its the name that shows up when you are searching for networks
[20:04] <marios> I'm having issues getting my wireless to work, is this the correct place to ask for help ?
[20:04] <cory__> okay can you break it down for me and tell me how to do it in a easy type fashion i have no idea what to do.. please
[20:05] <marios> i have received a dell laptop, with ubuntu preinstalled
[20:05] <marios> i upgraded it to 12.04LTS
[20:05] <marios> wifi card is detected as eth1, using the wl driver
[20:06] <marios> ok so far
[20:06] <blackhole> guys help me im using ubuntu 12.04 but i can't send message using my facebook
[20:06] <marios> when i try to connect to my wireless network at home .. well i can't
[20:06] <marios> network manager doesn't show my SSID
[20:07] <marios> (router works fine, the laptop i'm currently using is connected to it)
[20:07] <blackhole> even like or post a message in facebook please help me...
[20:07] <marios> i have tried disabling the wl broadcam-sta driver
[20:07] <gordonjcp> blackhole: are you actually on facebook?
[20:07] <marios> and i loaded the open source driver
[20:07] <blackhole> yap
[20:07] <marios> card gets wlan0 name
[20:08] <marios> sees /more/ essids, but still not mine :(
[20:08] <blackhole> gordonjcp, YES
[20:08] <marios> (either in network-manager or plain through iwlist wlan0 scanning)
[20:08] <gordonjcp> blackhole: perhaps you have some sort of network problem, or maybe facebook is down where you are, or maybe it's blocked by whoever runs your network
[20:08] <gordonjcp> blackhole: it's not an Ubuntu problem, though
[20:09] <marios> card is bcm4313
[20:09] <blackhole> gordonjcp, give me step to avoid that
[20:09] <marios> and i'm running out of ideas :p
[20:09] <TheLordOfTime> blackhole, facebook's up from here, so whatever the issue is, its not an Ubuntu issue...
[20:09] <SpaceRocket> how to make GTK dialogs effective again after installing KDE on Ubuntu?
[20:09] <MisterMom> marios, mayby your router is configured to not brodcast ssid
[20:09] <zykotick9> marios: have you seen the !broadcom factoid link?  "/msg ubottu broadcom", it's specific to your chip
[20:10] <blackhole> gordonjcp, in chat im using the xchat
[20:10] <gordonjcp> blackhole: okay...?
[20:10] <marios> router is broadcasting ssid
[20:10] <TheLordOfTime> blackhole, if its a networking problem not in your network, it should self-resolve eventually (hopefully) .  if its facebook down in your region, wait.  if its being blocked on your network, talk to the administrator.  Its not a true ubuntu issue though, so there's not too much we can help you with on this.
[20:11] <marios> looking at the factoid now
[20:11] <blackhole> gordonjcp, do you think i been compromise?
[20:11] <gordonjcp> blackhole: I don't see any relevance
[20:12] <blackhole> gordonjcp, it's been 2 weeks for now...
[20:13] <marios> hm
[20:13] <lime__> XKB keeps throwing errors
[20:13] <blackhole> gordonjcp, my ubuntu is ok but when i log-in on my facebook  everything is a mess..
[20:13] <marios> b43 doesn't support my chip
[20:14] <lime__> Is there a way I can reset the keyboard edits back to the default?
[20:14] <marios> and i've already tried the sta/brcmsmac drivers
[20:14] <marios> they both half-work
[20:14] <marios> I guess i'll try to get a more recent kernel
[20:14] <blackhole> gordonjcp, when i press like in facebook its back to 'like"
[20:15] <marios> perhaps there have been fixes/improvements since 3.2.0
[20:15] <marios> thanks for the tip zykotick9
[20:15] <blackhole> gordonjcp, do you think i have to update my java in ubuntu 12.04
[20:16] <blackhole> this is head ache for me...
[20:16] <gordonjcp> blackhole: no idea, but facebook doesn't use java
[20:16] <gordonjcp> blackhole: if your web browser is working, facebook will work
[20:16] <blackhole> gordonjcp, thanks nayway
[20:16] <gordonjcp> blackhole: assuming you haven't got some weird local network issue
[20:17] <blackhole> gordonjcp, i don't know, what wierd? you mean i.p or somthing like that?
[20:18]  * NightmareNightMo 
[20:19] <ubuntu-userr> ubuntu 12.4 is freezing so often now when i am surfing on firefox can anybody tell me why, i had this problem never before
[20:21] <blackhole> gordonjcp, by the way thanks for help
[20:22] <g0bl1n> hi, using Gnome, need a hint to take a screenshot for a section of the screen only. Like Cmd+Shift+4 on OSX. If not possible, will use the fab Shutter
[20:23] <alinmear> how does the uid and guid check work in nfs4?
[20:23] <alinmear> is it save for authentication"
[20:23] <LuizAngioletti> How does ubuntu manage wi-fi connections, underneath the Network-Manager:
[20:23] <LuizAngioletti> ?
[20:30] <ubuntu-userr> ubuntu 12.4 is freezing so often now when i am surfing on firefox can anybody tell me why, i had this problem never before
[20:32] <keithzg> Trying to send a message to all logged in terminal sessions of a specific group, but apparently -g isn't a valid option for the Linux version of "wall" (I swear it is on at least some form of BSD)
[20:32] <keithzg> Is there any alternative?
[20:35] <jrib> keithzg: I guess I would just use write and loop over the users in the group.  I don't know if there is some "built-in" way
[20:36] <action09> hi all i use python and virtualenv installed from python-virtualenv  python-pip, when i see virtualenv help it say that  "--no-site-packages" Don't give access to the global site-packages dir to the virtual environment (default; deprecated)
[20:36] <action09> but when i create an env with this option site-packages dir is present..
[20:37] <nonkn4mer> ontime: Yes, I am back now
[20:39] <OpenSorce> Hey guys, I just used gparted to create a new 60gb partition from free space, it will only let me create it as a Primary partition and then when it's done if I df the drive it says it's only 1.5gb and it won't let me mount it. What am I doing wrong?
[20:41] <ikonia> OpenSorce: have you rebooted after partioning ?
[20:41] <ikonia> or re-run partprobe
[20:42] <OpenSorce> ikonia, yes
[20:42] <ikonia> pastebin the output of fdisk -l
[20:42] <OpenSorce> ikonia, I'll try partprobe
[20:43] <ikonia> why ?
[20:43] <ikonia> you've rebooted
[20:43] <ikonia> no point
[20:44] <OpenSorce> ikonia, odd... partprobe gives no output. Anyway, should it be a primary partition?
[20:44] <ikonia> primary/logical doesn't matter
[20:44] <ikonia> please pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l please.
[20:45] <OpenSorce> ikonia, rgr that one sec
[20:45] <voxcroix> hi
[20:45] <skulltip> anyone using default ubuntu w/unity, I dare you to hit F1 for any help screen
[20:46] <ProfessorBacon> challenge: accepted
[20:46] <ProfessorBacon> except i'm not at home
[20:46] <ikonia> skulltip: how about just explain your problem/ask for help rather than these sort of silly games
[20:46] <voxcroix> i using 64bit 12.10
[20:46] <andreb> hi all
[20:46] <BlueEagle> !enter | voxcroix
[20:46] <andreb> how can i recover a deleted tar.gz file ?
[20:47] <ikonia> andreb: you don't
[20:47] <ikonia> andreb: you need to re-download it
[20:47] <andreb> its a backup file i made
[20:47] <OpenSorce> ikonia, http://pastebin.com/YPpbFXin
[20:47] <ikonia> andreb: how did you delete it ?
[20:47] <andreb> rm -rf
[20:47] <ikonia> andreb: then it's gone
[20:47] <skulltip> when i hit F1 the help screen to any application keeps popping up and stealing focus
[20:47] <BlueEagle> andreb: which file does the partition have on which the file was removed from?
[20:47] <ikonia> OpenSorce: which partition is the problem ?
[20:47] <ikonia> OpenSorce: partition 1 ?
[20:48] <BlueEagle> filesystem*
[20:48] <OpenSorce> ikonia, /dev/sda3/
[20:48] <ikonia> OpenSorce: that's not a pimary
[20:48] <mebuntu> Hi. What is the equivalent of Kubuntu that uses Gnome instead of KDE? I couldn't find any such thing as Gubuntu and Gobuntu means something else.
[20:48] <ikonia> OpenSorce: that's a logical within the logical partition /dev/sda2
[20:48] <ikonia> OpenSorce: actually, it's not, I see the problem
[20:49] <OpenSorce> ikonia, Gparted said it was... anyway, I can't mount it.
[20:49] <Stuz719> mebuntu Ubuntu GNOME remix?
[20:49] <ikonia> OpenSorce: between /dev/sda1's end and the start of the logical partition /dev/sda1 is only a small amount of space
[20:49] <ikonia> OpenSorce: that's a bad/sloppy partition table
[20:50] <Stuz719> mebuntu But why would you want GNOME when you can have Unity? ;-)
[20:50] <guntbert_> ikonia: if I remember correctly logical partition start with #5
[20:50] <OpenSorce> ikonia, so redo it and give it more space at the beginning?
[20:50] <ikonia> guntbert_: correct
[20:51] <ikonia> guntbert_: but if you look at his partition table, it's all out of sync
[20:51] <mebuntu> Stuz719: What is the package name? I can't find any remix-desktop or gnome-desktop. I can only find xubuntu-desktop along with (k)ubuntu-desktop and lubuntu-desktop. It's very strange that based on Gnome.
[20:51] <guntbert_> ikonia: true :)
[20:51] <ikonia> OpenSorce: just take a moment to actually read the paste you've given to me, look at the "start" and "end" numbers for each partition, and it should be obvious (hopefully) where you've lost the space
[20:51] <EntropyWorks> how is /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules created actually? It does not seem to be working for 12.10 server
[20:51] <Stuz719> mebuntu - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/ReleaseNotes/12.10
[20:51] <OpenSorce> ikonia, this was 60 gigs of my windows drive /dev/sda1 that I wanted to use in Linux
[20:52] <ikonia> OpenSorce: remember, you can 't move partition 2 or anything that's within partitions 2's start/end count
[20:52] <ikonia> OpenSorce: have you put a file system on it ?
[20:52] <OpenSorce> ikonia, yes I put ext3 on it like my other linux partitions
[20:52] <ikonia> ext3 ?
[20:52] <ikonia> not ext4 ?
[20:53] <mebuntu> Stuz719:  Oh, but I can't reinstall the whole thing again. I just need the package name and I want to simply apt-get it.
[20:53] <xangua> !info ubuntu-gnome-desktop | mebuntu Stuz719
[20:53] <OpenSorce> ikonia, many upgrades since my first Ubuntu install :-P
[20:53] <skulltip> ok it's when i have a terminal program opened and hit F1, forces me to log out and back in
[20:53] <ikonia> OpenSorce: from that side comment, I would suggest a clean isntall to a.) sort out your file system version b.) sort out your partition table, but from your current problem, what's the error when you try to mount it
[20:53] <mebuntu> Stuz719: Thanks a lot.
[20:54] <Stuz719> mebuntu np thanx to ubottu and xangua
[20:55] <Stuz719> skulltip F1 in terminal brings up terminal help for me - do you mean with a program or within the terminal?
[20:55] <mebuntu> Stuz719: Oh, it seems it's not available in my Precise :((
[20:56] <OpenSorce> ikonia, well when I manually mounted it it gave me no trouble... it's the auto-mount that wouldn't work and that error was just "failed to mount..."
[20:56] <ikonia> OpenSorce: look at things like the volume label, make sure there is nothing silly in there that could cause the automounter problem
[20:56] <ikonia> OpenSorce: but I'd still strongly advise you to sort points a.) and b.) out
[20:57] <Stuz719> mebuntu try synaptic?
[20:57] <xangua> !nounity | mebuntu
[20:57] <mebuntu> Stuz719: Yes, I searched all of Synaptic
[20:57] <Stuz719> ubottu great reply
[20:58] <skulltip> Stuz719 -  it brings up a help screen repeatedly and steals focus.
[20:59] <gimpy54> I'm having a problem with wifi on 12.04 with an Intel 6250.  It connects but keeps disconnecting over and over again.  This works fine on Fedora, what could be the problem?  i already disbaled wireless N for the iwlwifi module.
[20:59] <Stuz719> skulltip what are you searching for help on?
[20:59] <skulltip> i hit it accidentally sometimes
[20:59] <OpenSorce> ikonia, yeah it looks like it's time for a fresh install soon. Just hate to do that I've done so much customization to this :-P
[20:59] <OpenSorce> ikonia, thanks a lot for your help
[20:59] <Stuz719> skulltip are you pressing ESC or 1 a lot?
[21:00] <Laputa> hi, anyone here ever tried to connect to a remote sybase server using php ?
[21:00] <skulltip> this is gnome terminal btw, not hitting those keys alot. i was running another application and hit f1 for help not realizing i had my terminal in focus. it launched help repeatedly
[21:02] <skulltip> this time i selected Help/contents  (hotkey F1) and it did the same thing
[21:03] <Stuz719> skulltip try changing keyboard shortcuts in System Settings?4
[21:04] <jardineworks> gordonjcp, Finished upgrading to Ubuntu 12.10... headphones still aren't working for me :(
[21:04] <skulltip> what shortcut do i change
[21:05] <Stuz719> skulltip Look through them all (System settings/keyboard) and see which looks likely?
[21:05] <Stuz719> skulltip you can always change them back if you keep notes...
[21:06] <urgodfather> has anyone tested kernel 3.7?
[21:07] <emx> which ipod-capable player do you prefere?
[21:07] <xangua> i preffer no ipod :)
[21:07] <emx> xangua, not prefering ipod is not an option :P
[21:08] <Stuz719> xangua good call!
[21:08] <emx> heh. shut up and answer my question :P
[21:08] <xangua> !polls | emx
[21:08] <cheekee> I have 12.04 32 bit but want to upgrade to 12.10 64 bit. Is there an approved way to do this?
[21:08] <zykotick9> cheekee: yes, reinstall.
[21:08] <xangua> cheekee: backup your important data, reinstall
[21:09] <edve> anyones knows how to mount a folder into another one ?
[21:09] <Stuz719> emx problem is with apple constantly moving the goalposts. I used to like Banshee but then it stopped working with my nano
[21:09] <jardineworks> anyone care to take another stab at helping me get my headphones to work with 12.10 x64?
[21:09] <emx> for the record: thanks Stuz719
[21:09] <jardineworks> on an Alienware m17x r4
[21:10] <jardineworks> supposed to work OOTB ... but still not working for me :(
[21:10] <emx> xangua, how do i ask bestbot?
[21:10] <TandyUK> edve: mount --bind /src/path/ /target/mount/point/
[21:11] <emx> never mind. /topic says it
[21:12] <SierraAR> Is there a way to get internet explorer running on ubuntu through wine?
[21:12] <SierraAR> I havent been able to find any working instructions
[21:13] <urgodfather> zykotick9: are there any known issues to kernel 3.7 on 12.10?
[21:14] <zykotick9> urgodfather: i'd have NO idea...
[21:14] <cheekee> thanks  zylotic9 and xangua. My last question is I have forgotten the easy to spell names like zykotick9 without spelling each letter
[21:14] <emx> xangua, don't redirect ppl to bestbot. it's far from usable.
[21:14] <Jordan_U> SierraAR: Why do you want to run IE?
[21:14] <urgodfather> zykotick9: how would i check? is there a dev room?
[21:14] <zykotick9> !tab | cheekee
[21:14] <MonkeyDust> urgodfather  the latest used in 12.10 is 3.5, guess what you're using is not (yet) suported
[21:14] <cheekee> ubottu: thanks
[21:15] <urgodfather> MonkeyDust: yeah, im running on a Poulsbo chip which sucks, but from what i have read, 3.7 has more bug fixes for the gma500
[21:15] <zykotick9> urgodfather: i'm gonna guess you'll find minimal support for 3rd party kernels.  best of luck.
[21:16] <lurker> For a few weeks now I have a problem with my ubuntu (mythbuntu, actually) box after it worked for two years: Every other time it tries to boot, it hangs displaying an error message "hd0,1 out of disk" or "failed to boot both default and fallback entries". Then, I usually switch it off and back on and it works as expected. How can I get it to boot reliably again?
[21:17] <urgodfather> zykotick9: im aware of that, but i did see that 3.7 is avail on kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/
[21:18] <MonkeyDust> urgodfather  you're on your own, i guess
[21:18] <ontime> did you want me for something nonkn4mer?
[21:19] <Jordan_U> lurker: That error usually means that you have a buggy BIOS which can't properly handle large disks.
[21:19] <Jordan_U> lurker: The usual work around for that is to make a small /boot/ partition near the beginning of the disk.
[21:19] <nonkn4mer> ontime: yeah, I looked through the sonicwall site, and appears all of their devices (TZ series for cost efficiency) support failover.  I'm sure other brands do, too.  just speaking to what I have experience with.  Wanted to wrap up that train of throught.
[21:20] <pingpongping> is there a way to check fan speed ?
[21:20] <pingpongping> on ubuntu
[21:21] <ontime> nonkn4mer: thank you. it is much appreciated.
[21:21] <zykotick9> !lm-sensors | pingpongping
[21:26] <lurker> Jordan_U: I think we can exclude that from the list of possible reasons, since that same harddisk worked for over a year. The boot errors started some weeks ago.
[21:27] <MrMagoo> Hey, Can someone help me change back my grub timeout value to 1 (i am only able to boot to the livecd)
[21:27] <lurker> The box was disconnected from AC power before that started.
[21:27] <MrMagoo> i know how to do it if the kernel is loaded but not from the live cd
[21:29] <Jordan_U> lurker: This type of bug tends to crop up late, your BIOS *can* read earlier parts of the disk, but not later ones (ones beyond its limit). That means that as long as all of the files that need to be read through the BIOS happen to be stored early in the disk, you won't notice any problems.
[21:29] <BarkingFish> sorry, just a little x-channel posting: Does anyone know if pulseaudio has been recently updated?  Mine has stopped capturing properly now, I have a constant "hum" in the background which is drowning out recording.
[21:30] <Jordan_U> lurker: You can confirm that this is the problem by looking at the size that your BIOS reports the disk as, either in BIOS menus or by running "ls -l" from the grub shell and comparing it to the actual size.
[21:31] <lurker> Jordan_U: Thank you very much, I'll try that when I get to the box again.
[21:31] <Jordan_U> lurker: You're welcome.
[21:31] <moon`> How stable are the compiz-extras update on ubuntu 12.10 running cinnamon?  I'd like to get the wobbly windows feature back cause it's pretty cool but not at the expense of having to deal with trying to fix a crash
[21:32] <ikonia> moon`: well considering cinnamon isn't packaged by ubuntu, I'd say your at a good risk
[21:32] <ikonia> as in a high risk
[21:32] <emx> does anyone have experience with rhythmbox and ipod? what happens if i have audiofiles only on my ipod? will they be deleted because there are no local ones (in rhythmbox)?
[21:33] <ed_> Hello everybody. Does anyone know how to switch from VESA drivers to Nouveau on an optimus based machine?
[21:33] <Litie> I am bot
[21:33] <ikonia> ed_: you change it in the xorg.conf
[21:33] <Litie> I art from source of Greedi humanoid
[21:33] <ikonia> Litie: then please /part the channel, as speaking bots are not allowed
[21:33] <moon`> so if I wasn't using cinnamon it would be more stable?  Cause last time I hadn't started using cinnamon yet and installing the compiz-extras created one heck of a problem
[21:33] <_Marcus> I cant use the ls command, the permissions are strange. It wont let me chown it, and when I run "dir -l | grep "ls"" it shows this: -rwxr-xr-x 1  122 admin   39696 2011-02-23 09:24 ls
[21:33] <Litie> syntax invalid speak
[21:34] <_Marcus> How can I fix this?
[21:34] <Litie> I can not speak
[21:34] <Litie> I am a bot
[21:34] <Litie> I have no vocal cords
[21:35] <deadmund> _Marcus: The 122 is the ID of the owner of the file.  On your system there is no owner with ID 122.  TO chown or chmod the file use sudo.  You should change the owner to somebody that is actually on the system.  (you can change the owner using the username, not the number)
[21:35] <_Marcus> deadmund: I did this as root.
[21:35] <DeLorean731> I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 and firefox and I'm trying to run a java game that seems to be failing to load the plugin (it just sits at a blank screen where the game would normally load). I have installed openjdk-7-jre and icedtea-7-plugin. Any suggestions?
[21:36] <lurker> Jordan_U: Oh, one thing. Why does a reboot work?
[21:36] <deadmund> _Marcus: also, you have a file named "ls" are you talking about the ls binary?
[21:36] <_Marcus> deadmund: The binary
[21:36] <Jordan_U> lurker: I'm honestly not sure about that one. It'd be interesting to compare the values from "ls -l" from multiple boots, seeing if it ever changes.
[21:36] <zykotick9> DeLorean731: perhaps the game doesn't work with openjava?
[21:37] <deadmund> _Marcus: I see, you can't use it...  Which is _very_ strange because it's 755 (anyone can execute it).  Is this on a live CD or some strange situation?
[21:37] <_Marcus> deadmund: It's on my Ubuntu server installation
[21:37] <mr-rich> Hello, has anyone here migrated from Evolution 3.2.x to Thunderbird?
[21:38] <deadmund> _Marcus: sudo chmod 777 /bin/ls  does what?
[21:38] <_Marcus> deadmund: Isn't that unsafe?
[21:38] <deadmund> _Marcus: yeah, we'll change it back. Is this server in use right now?
[21:38] <_Marcus> Yes
[21:39] <_Marcus> If I change it back fast it'll be fine
[21:39] <deadmund> _Marcus: forget it, the point is, if you chmod it or chown it as root, do you get an error?  Do the permissions (from dir -l) change?
[21:39] <bkfitz> Anyone here use JottaCloud
[21:39] <bkfitz> or have it integrated with Ubuntu
[21:40] <SierraAR> Jordan_U: Sorry for the delay. I'm doing some web dev and want to make sure the HTML/CSS setup works properly in IE
[21:40] <guntbert_> !anyone | bkfitz
[21:40] <_Marcus> deadmund: It gets this error: chown: changing ownership of `ls': Operation not permitted
[21:40] <pingpongping> I Installed gnome sensor applet
[21:40] <jozefina> siema czaku
[21:40] <pingpongping> but can't find it
[21:40] <tmk> siema
[21:40] <deadmund> _Marcus: even as root?
[21:40] <_Marcus> deadmund: Yes
[21:40] <tmk> działa dzódi
[21:41] <zykotick9> pingpongping: if you install lm-sensors, typing "sensors" in a terminal should show you the fan speed (if your hardware is supported)
[21:41] <elena-IK> I searched for banshee in software center, it shows up 3 times ( http://s8.postimage.org/bulutzu43/banshee.png ). bug?
[21:41] <Jordan_U> SierraAR: http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page , reading that page you'll basically see that a VM running Windows is your only good option.
[21:41] <jozefina> sasasasa
[21:41] <bkfitz> Question: Does anyone here use JottaCloud, if so, do you have it integrated with Ubuntu
[21:41] <lurker> Jordan_U: I'll have to get my other keyboard, since my radio keyboard doesn't seem to work in grub rescue console.
[21:41] <guntbert_> !pl | jozefina
[21:41] <deadmund> _Marcus: can you sudo chmod it 755 and then sudo chown it, then chmod it back to 755 ?
[21:41] <xauth> _Marcus: "Operation not permitted" is not "Permission denied"
[21:41] <lurker> bye
[21:42] <deadmund> xauth: Your point being?
[21:42] <deadmund> _Marcus: I think that chattr is required here.
[21:42] <xauth> It's not a permission issue.
[21:42] <ed_> Damn spammer, sigh
[21:42] <ed_> *spammers
[21:42] <deadmund> _Marcus: where is your ls binary?  Is it in the path variable?
[21:43] <_Marcus> deadmund: Yes. I cant do /bin/ls either
[21:43] <_Marcus> deadmund: I tried chmod: chmod: changing permissions of `ls': Operation not permitted
[21:43] <emx> is there a harrdisk / cpu / whatnot monitory in the default install?
[21:43] <deadmund> _Marcus: Is the filesystem mounted read-only? (look with mount)
[21:43] <xauth> Perhaps it on a strange kind of filesystem, or it has an immutable attribute or something.
[21:43] <nonkn4mer> emx: there are a few different bins for each of those
[21:44] <_Marcus> deadmund: How do I check?
[21:44] <nonkn4mer> top netop  and df -kh to name a few
[21:44] <nonkn4mer> nettop*
[21:44] <xauth> _Marcus: cat /proc/mounts
[21:44] <Jordan_U> _Marcus: This is a very odd situation? Do you have any idea how it came about? If not, I'm tempted to say that you should re-install because who knows what else might be wrong that you just don't know about yet.
[21:45] <Jordan_U> s/situation?/situation./
[21:45] <deadmund> _Marcus: lsattr /bin/ls   ?
[21:45] <elena-IK> what determines where in the menu an application shows up? why is filelight (a disk usage viewer) in accessories and baobab (another disk usage viewer) in system?
[21:45] <_Marcus> Jordan_U: I have no idea. I checked the server today and it just wouldn't let me do ls
[21:45] <deadmund> _Marcus: check if it's mounted read only be looking at the output of "mount"
[21:45] <emx> nonkn4mer, i had a look at a few but none of the seems to track harddisk traffic. are there any (except gkrellm)
[21:46] <deadmund> _Marcus: Jordan_U It is bizarre to say the least.
[21:46] <nonkn4mer> emx: I believe iop does that.  let me check
[21:46] <feeshon> What is the best way to install Propietary Nvidia drivers in Ubutnu 12
[21:46] <feeshon> ?
[21:46] <zykotick9> emx: that's iotop btw
[21:46] <_Marcus> deadmund: I don't see anything about /bin in "mount"
[21:46] <xpozed> can someone tell me where to install matlab2009b to be able to use the matlab package from the software center or it doesn't matter ? i am trying in /usr/share/matlab
[21:47] <Don_> why does LTSP on Edubuntu not work on full load
[21:47] <nonkn4mer> emx: iostat will show you disk traffic
[21:47] <xauth> _Marcus: in that case, look for /
[21:47] <deadmund> _Marcus: /bin is probably part of your / partition, mount shows how partitions are mounted.  Can you pastebin the output of mount for me to look?  ( paste.ubuntu.com )
[21:47] <_Marcus> xauth: rootfs / rootfs rw 0 0
[21:47] <dkam> Can someone tell me how I'd reinstall the kernel and grub?  I accidentally toasted my partition table and /boot.  I've fixed partition table but /boot didn't make it and is now empty.
[21:47] <xauth> _Marcus: Ah. Nothing special there.
[21:47] <deadmund> _Marcus: that's it, not mounted ro (readonly) it's mounted rw (read-write) which is normal.  Can you do lsattr /bin/ls   ?
[21:47] <xauth> hmm...
[21:48] <urgodfather> zykotick9: so, i attempted a kernel upgrade but after reboot, i had "unmet packages" so i apt-get install -f and it forced me to revert back to 3.5. any clue as to what i might have done wrong. i fetched the 3 i386 .deb files, and installed linux-*.deb
[21:48] <xpozed> Can someone that is using matlab 2009b pm me pls
[21:48] <xauth> _Marcus: yes, try lsattr /bin/ls
[21:48] <zykotick9> urgodfather: sorry, no idea.  good luck.
[21:48] <_Marcus> deadmund: xauth: s---ia-----------e- /bin/ls
[21:48] <deadmund> that's a problem
[21:48] <_Marcus> Why?
[21:48] <deadmund> mine is all blank, looking up what those letters mean now
[21:48] <pingpongping> funny how ubuntu work
[21:49] <deadmund> ejnovak@th136-2:~> lsattr /bin/ls --------------- /bin/ls
[21:49] <xauth> _Marcus: guessing here: i = immutable.
[21:49] <pingpongping> app installed but never show where it is
[21:49] <_Marcus> deadmund: Other files only have e
[21:49] <urgodfather> zykotick9: do you know anyone you could recommend me to talk to?
[21:49] <zykotick9> urgodfather: i don't...
[21:49] <nonkn4mer> emx: iostat has a tps column (transactions per second) that ~ equates to ipos.
[21:49] <nonkn4mer> emx: iops*
[21:49] <_Marcus> How do I fix this?
[21:49] <deadmund> _Marcus: using chattr   exactly how, I'm not sure.
[21:49] <urgodfather> zykotick9: isnt there a dev room where i might be able to get some help?
[21:50] <_Marcus> ps and netstat have this too, and I can't use them
[21:50] <xangua> urgodfather: like you were told before you should be using the kernel provided by the ubuntu official repository
[21:50] <zykotick9> urgodfather: i believe so.  try alis "/msg ubottu alis" for details
[21:50] <MontyMoose> anyone got 2 secs to talk me through enabling MP3 support in FFMPEG, i've read a number of tutorials, but they keep telling me to install packages which no longer exist and I'm stuck - any one free? thanks.
[21:50] <deadmund> _Marcus: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chattr   using +i or -i   (description section)
[21:50] <urgodfather> xangua: the kernel was from the ubuntu mainline repo
[21:51] <MontyMoose> Ubuntu 12.4 LTS by the way (thanks)
[21:51] <nonkn4mer> emx: ps -aux is another CLI utility to view activity
[21:51] <emx> nonkn4mer, zykotick9, thanks. what do i need to install to get those two??
[21:51] <_Marcus> deadmund: Will this work? I don't want to break my system
[21:51] <zykotick9> nonkn4mer: it's "ps aux" with a - you get a warning/error at teh top
[21:51] <nonkn4mer> zykotick9: hmm.  never erros for me, but works without the -, too
[21:51] <deadmund> _Marcus: never done it before.  But I feel very safe running sudo chattr -i /bin/ls   (it will make your ls and my ls more similar according to lsattr)
[21:52] <_Marcus> k
[21:52] <nonkn4mer> emx: ps aux and top are built in
[21:52] <zykotick9> nonkn4mer: with the - check the top of the output...
[21:52] <deadmund> _Marcus: I'm trying to figure out what the e flag is
[21:52] <urgodfather> zykotick9: for future reference, the dev room is #ubuntu-devel
[21:52] <fdm> Does anyone know how can I  chage theme via console in Lubuntu? I need it to setup theme with uck
[21:52] <nonkn4mer> zykotick9: heh.  well what do you know?  :)
[21:52] <_Marcus> deadmund: Says this: s----a-----------e- /bin/ls
[21:52] <emx> wowowow. just looking at vmstat. on my old system i got around 1000 interrupts. what did i do wrong? :P
[21:52] <_Marcus> deadmund: But still can't use it
[21:52] <xauth> deadmund: e=extents. It's only low level storage information on the file.
[21:52] <emx> nonkn4mer, i meant iotop and iostat
[21:53] <_Marcus> xauth: What is the s?
[21:53] <zykotick9> emx: for iotop "sudo apt-get install iotop" fyi it needs sudo to run.  i don't know about iostat
[21:53] <_Marcus> xauth: And the a
[21:53] <nonkn4mer> emx: apt-get install sysstat
[21:53] <deadmund> e = extents, he just said that
[21:54] <deadmund> a = append only
[21:54] <emx> err... how do i open a second terminal? =)
[21:54] <nonkn4mer> are you in CLI or GUI?
[21:54] <nonkn4mer> emx: ^^
[21:54] <Jordan_U> _Marcus: Are you the only person that administers this server?
[21:54] <guntbert_> emx: middle click on the symbol in the launcher
[21:55] <_Marcus> Jordan_U: No. My father actually does too.
[21:55] <nonkn4mer> zykotick9: good call on vmstat.  I never use it but it's got good info in it, too
[21:55] <zykotick9> nonkn4mer: ;)  that wasn't me.  i'm unfamiliar with vmstat
[21:55] <Jordan_U> _Marcus: Have you asked him if he's messed with the permissions and attributes of ls or other files?
[21:56] <_Marcus> Jordan_U: He doesn't know how
[21:56] <emx> nonkn4mer, gui. guntbert_, thanks
[21:56] <fishcooker> is there any official package inssider for ubuntu 10.04
[21:56] <fishcooker> ?
[21:56] <fishcooker> i can't search from repo
[21:56] <deadmund> finding a complete listing of the lsattr attributes is far too difficult
[21:56] <_Marcus> deadmund: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lsattr s is for secure deletion
[21:57] <guntbert_> deadmund: man chattr :-)
[21:57] <deadmund> _Marcus: well, now that you turned immutable off, you should be able to chmod and chown again.  But you should still be able to execute (I see no evidence as to why you cannot)
[21:57] <deadmund> guntbert_: thanks
[21:57] <RickZilla> How often is ubuntu LTS released?
[21:57] <budmang> so I have 10GB ram in my work station. I left it for 2 weeks running doing nothing while im gone.. all 10GB is in use and swap is completely full too... any way to avoid or refresh this with out rebooting? 12.10?
[21:57] <fishcooker> c
[21:57] <Don_> how do i get started
[21:57] <ElixirVitae> Hi!
[21:57] <_Marcus> deadmund: I still can't.
[21:58] <xangua> RickZilla: every 4 releases/2 years
[21:58] <deadmund> _Marcus: not even /bin/ls   ?
[21:58] <_Marcus> deadmund: no
[21:58] <deadmund> what errors do you get?
[21:58] <ElixirVitae> If I wanted to mount external HDD when ubuntu boots, should I add them through fstab?
[21:58] <deadmund> ElixirVitae: yes
[21:58] <RickZilla> xangua: Thanks, what are the trade offs between a 2 year and a 6 month cycle upgrades?
[21:58] <ElixirVitae> I want my torrent client to not download files again, it did so in two instances
[21:58] <Jordan_U> _Marcus: Then you really need to think about how you could have gottent to this state. Adding the immutable attribute to /bin/ls is bizzarre and does not happen accidentily. I guess it could have been an intruder, though breaking ls in this way is certainly not a great way to hide the fact that they've compromised your server. Possibly they tried to add a modified ls that hid their activities and failed miserably.
[21:58] <_Marcus> deadmund: chmod: changing permissions of `ls': Operation not permitted
[21:59] <zykotick9> ElixirVitae: is it always connected?  you might run into issues if it isn't...
[21:59] <ElixirVitae> It is, mostly.
[21:59] <deadmund> _Marcus: I have no idea.
[21:59] <ElixirVitae> But bear in mind this is laptop and I leave HDD at home sometimes
[21:59] <_Marcus> Jordan_U: I'll figure it out once it's fixed. Would reinstalling coreutils work?
[21:59] <zykotick9> ElixirVitae: "mostly" ;)  it's not a big deal, but whenever it isn't - boot is gonna fail, and you'll need to ^d (i think) to continue booting.
[22:00] <Jordan_U> _Marcus: If you can't figure out exactly how you got into this state, you really should re-install this server, and check your backups carefully to be sure they don't contain anything nefarious.
[22:01] <ElixirVitae> Is there a way to tell torrent client that if HDD is not connected, don't try to download?
[22:01] <ElixirVitae> I use qbittorrent btw.
[22:01] <RickZilla> ElixirVitae: I would think that's specific to the torrent app, and not to ubuntu generally, though I could be wrong
[22:02] <Jordan_U> _Marcus: If it is an intrusion, you don't "fix" and intrusion bit by bit, you re-install. You can't know what they've changed or what back doors they've added. If it's not an intrusion then you've had a bizzarre and catastrophic failure of some kind and you still can't be sure what other than coreutils might be broken that you just don't know about yet. Unless you figure out exactly how this state came about, completely re-install ...
[22:02] <Jordan_U> ... Ubuntu.
[22:02] <ElixirVitae> The thing is, if it does not find the previously established location, it assumes that file is not there
[22:02] <Monotoko> hey all... does anyone know how I can assign a hotkey to the sidebar? I use synergy (keyboard+mouse sharing), and when I have the sidebar on autohide I can't reactive it because the mouse just goes to my other PC
[22:02] <_Marcus> Jordan_U: Okay
[22:03] <Ed_____> Hello everybody, can anyone help me with a problem with some nouveau drivers?
[22:03] <ElixirVitae> and it creates a folder under /media
[22:03] <Ed_____> Does anybody know how to replace load nouveau drivers instead of the Vesa ones?
[22:03] <Ed_____> I'm using Ubuntu 10.04
[22:04]  * zykotick9 wonders if nouveau was in 10.04...
[22:04] <Ed_____> yeah, they were...
[22:04] <Ed_____> I've got a GT520M
[22:04] <ElixirVitae> Would defining HDD partitions in fstab with UUID help at all?
[22:04] <Ed_____> and Bumblebee works fine
[22:05] <deadmund> ElixirVitae: It is the preferred method.
[22:06] <ElixirVitae> But, whatever I do, if HDD were not connected during boot, torrent client will try to download.
[22:06] <deadmund> ElixirVitae: Indeed it will
[22:06] <ElixirVitae> So, no solution at that part.
[22:06] <ElixirVitae> ;_;
[22:06] <deadmund> ElixirVitae: You could write a script that, on login, checks to see if that partition is mounted and, if it is, start the torrent client.
[22:06] <ElixirVitae> Can I prevent the client to access /media though?
[22:07] <deadmund> ElixirVitae: The client itself is much less programmable.  I think not.
[22:07] <deadmund> ElixirVitae: You'd have to manually change the preference in the gui.
[22:07] <ElixirVitae> That sounds reasonable and well over limit of my powers~
[22:07] <deadmund> ElixirVitae: I guess you could use rtorrent which is CLI based and has a config file.  You could, using the script, modify the config file before starting rtorrent
[22:08] <deadmund> ElixirVitae: Depends how much time you wanna spend automating this process
[22:08] <ElixirVitae> Or, better yet, I should get around to turning that old desktop into homeserver and connect HDD to it while I am at it.
[22:09] <deadmund> ElixirVitae: That would probably be much easier.
[22:09] <Frostbyte> When I try to do a query to mysql from an .sh script, I get permission denied? What am I missing? (Already have a fucntional user with full permissions on the database, so wtf?)
[22:09] <ElixirVitae> Woe is me as I have an overhaul of things that needs immediate attention...
[22:09] <deadmund> haha
[22:10] <ElixirVitae> Anywho, there doesn't seem an easily applicable solution, so it needs to be postponed.
[22:10] <webfox> Hello folks!
[22:10] <ElixirVitae> Many thanks.
[22:10] <ElixirVitae> Hi, webfox!
[22:10] <webfox> What is the channel name for Ubuntu Server support please ?
[22:10] <_Marcus> Frostbyte: Do you have permissions to run the sh file?
[22:10] <ElixirVitae> #ubuntu-server
[22:10] <Frostbyte> _Marcus : I'm currently testing it as root
[22:11] <_Marcus> webfox: generally you can ask here, but it is #ubuntu-server
[22:11] <webfox> oh, thank you ElixirVitae ! ;)
[22:11] <Frostbyte> _Marcus : it's sql that replies with permission denied I think
[22:11] <Nate_Rev> Unetbootin won't work, any help?
[22:11] <Frostbyte> _Marcus : mysql.sh: 27: mysql.sh: : Permission denied
[22:12] <ElixirVitae> Deadmund, are you at rizon as well?
[22:12] <_Marcus> Frostbyte: Try "chmod a+x mysql.sh" first
[22:12] <deadmund> ElixirVitae: No :(  I don't know what rizon is.
[22:12] <webfox> _Marcus, well, to be honest it is a Ubuntu Server/Mac OS X/Oracle VM VirtualBox issue I am having which I've already being at all those channels and I still looking for an answer.
[22:12] <Frostbyte> _Marcus : still getting permission denied
[22:12] <deadmund> _Marcus: Frostbyte mysql has it's own set of users and permissions on the databases.  That is likely the issue, not the actual permissions on the file that holds the script.
[22:12] <Frostbyte> true
[22:13] <Nate_Rev> Nobody has any USB booting advice..?
[22:13] <bekks> webfox: And which is host and which is guest?
[22:13] <Catbuntu> hi
[22:13] <ElixirVitae> Nate_Rev, there is multisystem
[22:13] <webfox> bekks, Mac OS X is the host and Ubuntu Server the client.
[22:13] <Frostbyte> deadmund : bullseye, if I execute the commands by myself, I have access to sql, but from the .sh I get permission denied
[22:14] <Nate_Rev> multisystem>
[22:14] <_Marcus> Frostbyte: Did you ask #mysql yet?
[22:14] <Nate_Rev> >
[22:14] <Nate_Rev> ?
[22:14] <bekks> Frostbyte: then show us the .sh please, in a pastebin
[22:14] <deadmund> Frostbyte: ask in #mysql ?
[22:14] <ElixirVitae> Nate_Rev, http://liveusb.info/
[22:14] <Frostbyte> will do so, sec
[22:14] <_Marcus> Frostbyte: Don't post the mysql password though
[22:15] <Frostbyte> _Marcus I know :p
[22:15] <Frostbyte> bekks , _Marcus : http://pastebin.com/NACvjK3V
[22:15] <Nate_Rev> I can't read French. :/
[22:16] <ElixirVitae> It is english as well, Nate_Rev
[22:16] <Frostbyte> bekks , _Marcus : it's line 14 that hits
[22:16] <ElixirVitae> Though unetbootin is better if you want to have only one liveCD within.
[22:16] <bekks> Frostbyte: I can see a syntax error in line 14
[22:17] <Nate_Rev> I have Unetbootin.
[22:17] <_Marcus> Frostbyte: There's no space after -p
[22:17] <Nate_Rev> I made one, but it freezes when I try to use it.
[22:17] <Frostbyte> bekks , _Marcus : that's cut from putty, nevermind it
[22:17] <zul_> hi all, could anyone help me in devise and twitter? I'm trying to authenticate in a rails test with a twitter account every time I get Twitter OAuth 401 Unauthorized, I follwed this railcasts: http://railscasts.com/episodes/235-omniauth-part-1?language=it&view=asciicast
[22:18] <Frostbyte> sec
[22:19] <_Marcus> Frostbyte: I forget how the ` thing works, do you have to put another `, or a '?
[22:19] <Frostbyte> I think I figured something
[22:19] <ElixirVitae> There is lilo, Nate_Rev: http://www.linuxliveusb.com/
[22:19] <Frostbyte> _Marcus : put another `
[22:19] <_Marcus> Frostbyte: Then the string never ends
[22:19] <ElixirVitae> But unetbootin should be enough, might want to try again...
[22:20] <Frostbyte> _Marchs : that's actually cut from the terminal
[22:20] <Frostbyte> _Marcus * : that's actually cut from the terminal
[22:20] <_Marcus> Frostbyte: We need to see the rest
[22:21] <Nate_Rev> I tried three times so far. Unetbootin seems to be a bust for me.
[22:22] <zykotick9> Nate_Rev: have to just tried to dd/cat the ubuntu iso to your USB?
[22:23] <Frostbyte> _Marcus : http://pastebin.com/VhNPFX9k
[22:23] <mr-rich> Any help migrating from Evolution 3.2.3 to Thunderbird?
[22:24] <paco1> hello masters!
[22:24] <Nate_Rev> How would I do that?
[22:25] <paco1> i would like to know if there is one way to download package (apt-get or aptitude), with dependencies, without install them....thanks!
[22:26] <Frostbyte> _Marcus : funny thing is that even if I ommit the -p , and insert the password manually, I still get permission denied
[22:26] <Frostbyte> gonna ask in #mysql
[22:26] <zykotick9> paco1: see "man apt-get" looks like there is a --download-only option...
[22:26] <emx> steam on ubuntu? the world of gaming is changing =) (sorry for the late cheer)
[22:27] <_Marcus> Frostbyte: Check database permissions. The user may not be able to access it.
[22:27] <Frostbyte> _Marcus : user has full permissions, I even tried with root user
[22:27] <dr_willis> emx:  now if only it had more games on it that were linux native ports... but its a start
[22:27] <zul_> who knows about ruby on rails? I have a question about devise and twtter authentication
[22:27] <_Marcus> Frostbyte: Well I have no idea
[22:29] <emx> dr_willis, sure, there is a long way to go. but if they manage to make it stable until halflife 3 is released then i'm happy =]
[22:29] <dr_willis> Nate_Rev:  the pendrivelinux site has alternative tools and guides for installing to usb also
[22:31] <Nate_Rev> ok, it says it doesnt have pae
[22:32] <elstud> to migrate from evolution to thunderbird go to maketecheasier
[22:32] <Nate_Rev> and thats why it wont install... I Have no idea what "pae" is
[22:32] <dr_willis> Nate_Rev:  must be  older hardware.
[22:32] <dr_willis> !pae
[22:32] <nonkn4mer> emx: halflife 3... you need to switch to #vaporware :P
[22:32] <dr_willis> Nate_Rev:  i think the lubuntu iso uses a nonpae kernel by default
[22:32] <paco1> zykotick9: ok, thanks! I read too fast the documentation
[22:32] <Nate_Rev> I only have a 1gb
[22:33] <dr_willis> http://www.webupd8.org/2012/11/how-to-install-ubuntu-1210-on-non-pae.html
[22:33] <dr_willis> pae is a feature of the CPU
[22:33] <dr_willis> 12.10 ubuntu defaults to a pae kernel
[22:34] <emx> nonkn4mer, nono. halflife 3 was never announced (unlike duke nukem). valve knows what it's doing.
[22:34] <fission6> can someone help me in a PM that has solid security insight, i think one of my linode boxes has been hacked
[22:34] <Nate_Rev> so... am i just not able to install linux on this netbook?
[22:34] <Nate_Rev> I tried Wubi at one point before and that wouldnt work either.
[22:35] <hilo> Hi I chmod 777 .* my filesystem by accident and everything is 777 including my etc/sudoers file. I can't do anything at all that requires elevation. Is there a way to shutdown?
[22:35] <dr_willis> Nate_Rev:   you Can install it.. if you have a non-pae kernel..
[22:35] <dr_willis> Nate_Rev:  Lubuntu should install just fine
[22:36] <trism> well, there is no non-pae kernel in the repo 12.10+ so you're going to be building alot of kernels
[22:36] <goddard> how can I download a specific font for ubuntu that is on windows/
[22:36] <Nate_Rev> I am using Lubuntu right now, on a Netbook I just bought, so its not old hardware. and it wont install off a USB, and it wont install through wubi
[22:37] <dr_willis> doh   Further more, with 12.10, Xubuntu and Lubuntu no longer come with a non-PAE Linux Kernel, so by default, you can't install any Ubuntu 12.10 flavour on computers using CPUs that lack PAE support (such as Intel Pentium M).
[22:37] <nonkn4mer> Nate_Rev: external CD Rom time, it sounds like
[22:38] <Nate_Rev> So.. should I use an older disc image?
[22:38] <dr_willis> hmm.  I  put 12.10 on my netbook. :)
[22:38] <dr_willis> must depend on the exact cpu i guess in the netbook
[22:38] <dr_willis> Nate_Rev:  12.04 Lubuntu should work
[22:38] <hilo> Is there a way to safely power off an ubuntu install which the whole filesystem has been chmod 777 including the /etc/sudoers file?
[22:39] <darkbyte> Yeah, it does. If it does not support physical address extension, it isn't happening.
[22:39] <dr_willis> hilo:  go to console. press power button - i think kicks it into shutdown ..
[22:40] <dr_willis> but if everything has been chmoded in weird ways..   its hard to tell wht may or may not work
[22:41] <hilo> dr_willis, yeah I hit the "." before the * accidentally and it recursed my whole filesystem
[22:41] <hilo> dr_willis, powerbutton doesn't seem to do anything at all.
[22:41] <hds-> hi there. i have an ubuntu 8.04 and wonder if i could just update to 12.10 with a dist-upgrade or what i should maybe be aware of
[22:41] <dr_willis> hilo:  well if you press and HOLD the power button.. that will force the pc to power off. ;(
[22:41] <jrib> hilo: try ctrl-alt-del in a tty maybe?  If not, you may have raise elephants...
[22:42] <dr_willis> hds-:  that big of a upgrade may be problematic. I would be sure to have backups made.. and be prepared for a clean install.
[22:42] <Kaleo688> hi guys, please, i'm whit a problem: W: Erro GPG: http://ppa.launchpad.net precise Release: As assinaturas a seguir não puderam ser verificadas devido à chave pública não estar disponível: NO_PUBKEY 7E492AAE24DF7CC4.
[22:42] <dr_willis> hds-:  not to mention it may take some time for it to upgrade. May be faster to clean install
[22:42] <Kaleo688> anybody can help me?
[22:42] <paco1> one other question: if i'm on 10.04 and i would like to download packages with dependendies for 12.04, is it possible?
[22:42] <hds-> dr_willis: if i updated gradually?
[22:42] <jrib> hilo: also do you have a dm like lightdm or gdm running by chance?
[22:42] <Monotoko> how long is 10.04 supported?
[22:42] <jrib> paco1: you should upgrade to 12.04 if you want to use 12.04 software, that's my advice
[22:42] <hds-> dr_willis: clean install is a little tricky as i have no monitor for this device
[22:43] <hilo> ctrl alt del at the logon screen worked
[22:43] <hilo> thanks all
[22:43] <dr_willis> hds-:  you go from one relase to the next. then once you hit a LTS release you an go LTS to LTS.
[22:43] <dr_willis> hds-:  4 years of upgrades may be trickier.
[22:43] <Monotoko> anyone?
[22:44] <dr_willis> !10.04
[22:44] <Monotoko> okay... my laptop has "issues" with 12.04
[22:44] <Kaleo688> anyone know how i get a public key to install packages?
[22:44] <Monotoko> as in the mouse freezes every 30 seconds and it locks up to 100% CPU usage
[22:44] <jrib> Kaleo688: packages from *where*?
[22:45] <hds-> dr_willis: so i upgrade from hardy to jaunty to lucid to maverick with gradual dist-upgrades and then jump to quantal?
[22:45] <jrib> hds-: skip jaunty skip maverick...
[22:45] <fission6> can someone wiht a soul please help me something is messed up obn my linux server, i need someone keen on security to help me or guide me
[22:45] <darkbyte> Monotoko, I had that problem, was the cord on my mouse...intermitent short.
[22:45] <dr_willis> hds-:  thats the core of it  upgrade to you get to a LTS release. then jump LTS to LTS.
[22:45] <dr_willis> Good luck. ;)
[22:46] <dr_willis> fission6:  better to just state the problem and what you did.
[22:46] <jrib> hds-: hardy (LTS) -> lucid (LTS) -> quantal (LTS)
[22:46] <Monotoko> darkbyte, it isn't the cord... it does it with the mousepad... external mice... everything, my keyboard also seizes
[22:46] <hds-> dr_willis: thx
[22:46] <Monotoko> it just rockets to 100%
[22:46] <hilo> jrib, I don't think so. It's a fairly basic server install
[22:46] <jrib> hilo: k.  Looks like you've managed to reboot anyway
[22:47] <Kaleo688> A support driver video to amd - ati.
[22:47] <hilo> On to live usb to back up configs and then reformat
[22:47] <hilo> Is there a way to pull a driver to make the reinstall easier?
[22:47] <jrib> hilo: make sure you fix the permissions on the files backup of course
[22:48] <hilo> The server has an LSI 9750-8i HDD RAID controller and I can't remember all the details of the driver other than compiling it was a pain
[22:48] <fission6> dr_willis: getting linode alerts that my box has been compromised and all the ticket says after that is HoneyPotTransport
[22:48] <fission6> i am looking for guidance of any sort dr_willis
[22:48] <goddard> can some one tell me how to install a font?
[22:48] <goddard> ttf file
[22:49] <jrib> !font | goddard
[22:49] <dr_willis> goddard:  i copy mine to my users .fonts directory ;)
[22:49] <qwd> I have a lot of noise (sound) when watching videos on VLC but not on Totem. I tried deleting the vlc folder in ~/.config but that didn't solve it. Any ideas?
[22:49] <zhiattags> can anyone here teach me how to run .exe files on my ubuntu 12.04?
[22:49] <Kaleo688> error in the launchpad key - NO_PUBKEY 7E492AAE24DF7CC4 - ??
[22:49] <emx> is it possible to encrypt the home folder?
[22:49] <jrib> !wine | zhiattags
[22:49] <gordonjcp> zhiattags: .exe files are for DOS, not Linux
[22:49] <MontyMoose> Anyone free to help me with avconv? Whatever format I try and convert to, I just get "Default encoder for format %FORMAT% is probably disabled. Please choose an encoder manually."
[22:49] <goddard> dr_willis: ok thanks
[22:49] <dr_willis> zhiattags:  wine /path/to/whatever.exe  is  the old skool way
[22:50] <hilo> jrib, could you provide a little guidance? I have no idea where to even start when it comes to pulling drivers from one system and putting them on another
[22:50] <zhiattags> jrib: can we convert that to linux executable?
[22:50] <jrib> zhiattags: but yes you should try to use native apps whenever possible.  Your life will be much happier
[22:50] <MontyMoose> even though tif I do -codecs I get MP3 in the list
[22:50] <jrib> zhiattags: I do not understand what your last question is asking.
[22:50] <jrib> hilo: you shouldn't have to worry about any drivers
[22:50] <fission6> anyone have a recommendation for a more security focused channel
[22:50] <dr_willis> you dont jus5t 'convert' executables from one OS to another. ;)
[22:50] <jrib> hilo: what drivers are you thinking about?
[22:50] <dr_willis> fission6:  #ubuntu-server perhaps
[22:50] <jrib> fission6: why don't you ask linode support for some guidance?  They even have a channel (on oftc I think)
[22:51] <alien2050> zhiattags: you cannot, you have to recompile from the source code and adjust for linux code
[22:51] <zhiattags> dr_willis: i will try that, thanks
[22:51] <hilo> jrib, LSI 9750-8i
[22:51] <dr_willis> im not even suer what 'linode' is. ;)
[22:51] <jrib> dr_willis: vps provider
[22:51] <zhiattags> jrib: will try dr_willis suggestion
[22:51] <jrib> hilo: I'm not familiar with that
[22:52] <Kaleo688> jrib, can you help me? is that key: NO_PUBKEY 7E492AAE24DF7CC4 - launchpad
[22:52] <student> aaaaa
[22:52] <jrib> Kaleo688: you have to answer my question for me to help you: where are you installing this software from?  A ppa perhaps?
[22:52] <hilo>  jrib it's a hard drive controller
[22:52] <jrib> hilo: I understand, but I don't know what you need to do.  Did you have to do something special before, at install time?
[22:53] <student> do u know how to
[22:53] <student> boot wondows xp
[22:53] <student> ?
[22:53] <Kaleo688> yes - from the atualzation system of ubuntu - in the reload happened this!
[22:53] <jrib> Kaleo688: what ppa?
[22:53] <student> this ubuntu
[22:54] <student> is shit
[22:54] <k1l> student: where is this a ubuntu support issue?
[22:54] <k1l> !language | student
[22:54] <student> ok
[22:54] <student> people do u want to help me
[22:54] <student> ?
[22:55] <k1l> !ask | student
[22:55] <jrib> student: ask your detailed question ON ONE LINE, only then can we help you
[22:55] <student> how to boot windows xp on ubunu
[22:55] <student> ?
[22:55] <student> ubuntu
[22:55] <hilo> jrib, no but after installing, it couldn't mount anything at first. I had to compile and install the driver
[22:55] <alien2050> student: virtualbox
[22:55] <hilo> jrib, it took days on the phone with LSI support
[22:56] <k1l> student: describe what you mean. its not getting clear what you want
[22:56] <student> i dont speak well english because i am from serbia
[22:57] <darkbyte> student, check it out. Download virtualbox from ubuntu repos.
[22:57] <Kaleo688> LP-PPA-oibaf-graphics-drivers (noveau display - X.OrgX server)
[22:57] <darkbyte> Then make a new virtual image for you win box.
[22:57] <darkbyte> Then boot it up and enjoy.
[22:57] <Kaleo688> i cant install it.
[22:57] <student> ok thx
[22:57] <jrib> hilo: sorry, I don't know enough to help you
[22:57] <darkbyte> If you have any questions please pm me.
[22:57] <darkbyte> Or ask in the room.
[22:58] <hilo> jrib, thanks for the effort
[22:58] <student> and how to enter a bios on ubuntu
[22:58] <darkbyte> Elaborate on "enter a bios"
[22:58] <jrib> Kaleo688: https://launchpad.net/~oibaf/+archive/graphics-drivers has instructions on adding the key for the ppa.
[22:58] <hilo> Does anyone have any experience installing the drivers for a 3ware/LSI RAID controller?
[22:58] <k1l> student: that is no ubuntu support issue. that is you hardware issue
[22:58] <alien2050> student: bios doesn't have anything to do with operating system, it is started before the OS comes into play
[22:58] <elstud> student go to spatry s cuo=p of linux explains thoroughly
[22:58] <k1l> student: look into the manual
[22:58] <darkbyte> Your bios is in your machine, not ubuntu. You access it from hitting a button at first boot.
[22:58] <Kaleo688> there i will can?
[22:59] <student> i know
[22:59] <student> but i press del
[22:59] <jrib> Kaleo688: yes, read the "adding this ppa to your system" section on the ppa's site
[22:59] <k1l> student: ##hardware
[22:59] <Kaleo688> thank you jrib!
[22:59] <darkbyte> Pm me student
[22:59] <darkbyte> Im not a dick.
[22:59] <k1l> student: that is no ubuntu issue if you want to access bios or install windows
[23:00] <student> what is pm
[23:00] <alien2050> student: virtualbox sorta has a "bios" in the sense that it starts a really quick menu with options
[23:00] <angelpossum> dick
[23:00] <darkbyte> Private message.
[23:00] <student> ok
[23:00] <k1l> alien2050: he doestn want to install vb
[23:00] <k1l> doenst serbia got a loco team with own channel?
[23:00] <student> i dont know
[23:00] <alien2050> k1l: are u sure about that?
[23:00] <student> kil
[23:01] <student> yes
[23:01] <k1l> alien2050: read what he said earlier
[23:01] <alien2050> student: what precisely are u trying to achieve?
[23:01] <hds-> how do i dist-upgrade from shell? change all sources from one version to the next in the sources.list and then apt-get update/upgrade?
[23:01] <Kaleo688> i have an AMD A8 VISIO - this is the only driver to optimize my process?
[23:01] <k1l> hds-: no
[23:01] <student> my new windows ubuntu
[23:01] <jrib> !upgrade | hds-
[23:01] <k1l> hds-: use do-release-upgrade
[23:01] <darkbyte> Oh he wants ubuntu gone.
[23:01] <optimusprimem> test
[23:02] <k1l> student: join channel ##hardware for your problem
[23:02] <hds-> k1l:that link only tells me how to do it with a gui app. but do-relase-upgrade sounds good
[23:02] <hilo> How do I mound an LVM partition in a Live environment to recover data
[23:02] <darkbyte> They will never answer his questions in #hardware lol
[23:02] <student> where is that
[23:02] <alien2050> i see
[23:02] <wN> hilo: mount /dev/volgroup/logvol /mountpoint
[23:02] <Kaleo688> jrib?
[23:02] <peugi> i am thinking about getting a SSD, did anyone noticed getting their desktop faster with one?
[23:02] <nonkn4mer> hds-: apt-get dist-upgrade
[23:03] <wN> hilo: you may need to run pvscan, vgscan, lvscan, vgchange -ay
[23:03] <jrib> Kaleo688: yes?
[23:03] <hds-> nonkn4mer: k1l just told me not to do that
[23:03] <alien2050> peugi: it boots really fast, other than that... depends on which one you get
[23:03] <zykotick9> peugi: lol - best upgrade i've ever seen ;)
[23:03] <k1l> hds-: why?
[23:03] <jrib> hds-, nonkn4mer: apt-get dist-upgrade is incorrect
[23:03] <hilo> wN, I don't understand LVM at all or what it is. Can you elaborate?
[23:03] <peugi> I am thinking getting the OCZ one for $130
[23:03] <Kaleo688> i have an AMD A8 VISION 64BIT, is that the only driver to optimize?
[23:03] <k1l> nonkn4mer: no. he wants a release upgrade
[23:03] <wN> hilo: you want me to teach you about lvm, or about those commands?
[23:03] <MontyMoose> is mp3 lame not allowed anymore or something… it used to be easier than this to encode mp3s I'm sure!
[23:03] <nonkn4mer> jrib: please elaborate
[23:04] <student> does anuone speak serbian
[23:04] <zykotick9> !dist-upgrade | nonkn4mer
[23:04] <k1l> hds-: if you want a release-upgrade like from 12.04 to 12.10 its do-release-upgrade
[23:04] <Frostbyte> _Marcus : I think I found a workaround
[23:04] <hilo> wN, Just the barebones to get a specific partition mounted
[23:04] <student> speak serbian ??
[23:04] <hilo> wN, once I backup some stuff I will be reformatting and not using LVM
[23:04] <nonkn4mer> zykotick9: ahh.  makes sense
[23:04] <zykotick9> nonkn4mer: if you manually changed sources.list, dist-upgrade would work (but that's not the Ubuntu way of doing things)
[23:05] <MontyMoose> so irritating… my new server is perfect apart from the ability to encode mp3s (needed for the web server HTML5 audio). Now I'm messing around with endless codecs filling the machine up with all sorts of rubbish I don't need. Very annoying.
[23:05] <roby87> Hello everyone
[23:05] <k1l> nonkn4mer: dist-upgrade is not a upgrade to the new release version
[23:05] <hds-> k1l: i actuallly have 8.04 but yeah. seemed to me that do-release-upgrade was a gui tool
[23:05] <wN> hilo: you need to scan the lvm stack. run # pvscan; vgscan; lvscan; vgchange -ay
[23:05] <wN> hilo: that will activate the stack
[23:05] <wN> hilo: then you can mount with # mount /dev/volgroupname/logvolname /mountpoint
[23:05] <alien2050> MontyMoose: Did you try lame? works like a charm
[23:05] <student> darbyte
[23:05] <MontyMoose> I'm trying to use lame through avconv,  but I can't get it to work at all
[23:05] <student> ?
[23:06] <student> darkbyte
[23:06] <student> ?
[23:06] <Kaleo688> jrib, i have an AMD A8 VISION 64 BIT, is that the one drive to supported?
[23:06] <hilo> wN, installing lvm2 package
[23:06] <jrib> Kaleo688: I don't know
[23:06] <MontyMoose> I wanted to use ffmpeg, but now it tells me they've given up on it - so I installed avconv like it said
[23:06] <alien2050> not sure about avconv...
[23:06] <Kaleo688> anyone know?
[23:06] <k1l> student: last call: its not a ubuntu support issue if you want to install windows on a machine. so please join the channel ##hardware
[23:06] <wN> hilo: i gotta bounce. jump into #lvm ify ou need mroe lvm help
[23:06] <nonkn4mer> zykotick9: so would you dist-upgrade to make sure you have the latest dependancies, etc, before doing a do-release?  or waste of time?
[23:06] <Kaleo688> common guys!!!
[23:07] <MontyMoose> well I have no wish to use avconv - ffmpeg was working fine on my old server, but now 12.4 LTS refuses to play ball
[23:07] <hilo> wN, thanks
[23:07] <k1l> hds-: update-manager is the gui tool for that
[23:07] <zykotick9> nonkn4mer: doubt it would make much difference, but sure ;)
[23:07] <MontyMoose> I worry I've broken it all now :-s
[23:07] <guilhermekfe> my grub screen is all black, does anybody knows that?
[23:07] <student> i was join
[23:07] <alien2050> guilhermekfe: Could be many reasons...
[23:07] <k1l> nonkn4mer: dist-upgrade comes in when there is a new kernel, for example
[23:07] <guilhermekfe> alien2050: I've just installed Ubuntu 12.10 on my box
[23:07] <student> heyy
[23:08] <student> and
[23:08] <alien2050> guilhermekfe: Try to boot from live cd and redo a clean grub-install, should work
[23:08] <nonkn4mer> zykotick9: i'm pretty anal about autoremove/autoclean so there's no unnecessary packages floating around...  will probably add that to my OCD update procedures
[23:08] <k1l> student: ask in that channel
[23:08] <MontyMoose> Anyone want to suggest what I may have missed in installing lame? Ubuntu 12.04.1 LT
[23:08] <roby87> WHOIS r0by87
[23:08] <emx> what is the easiest way to synchronise two directories on different physical drives?
[23:08] <guilhermekfe> alien2050: I ran boot-repair
[23:08] <deadmund> roby87: You forgot the slash
[23:08] <deadmund> emx: rsync
[23:08] <alien2050> MontyMoose: what is your input file type, and what is the output needed
[23:08] <zykotick9> emx: rsync is one option, unison is another
[23:09] <roby87> thanks, sorry, i'm newbie!! :D
[23:09] <mr-rich> elstud: I tried going out to that site. It doesn't cover evolution 3.2.x which stores e-mail in maildir format ...
[23:09] <k1l> emx: unison
[23:09] <MontyMoose> I need to be able to make audio files for HTML5 audio, so say convert WMA into MP3 and OGG
[23:09] <k1l> emx: which is 2 way rsync actually
[23:09] <alien2050> guilhermekfe: you should try grub-install
[23:09]  * angelpossum says to roby87 
[23:09] <angelpossum> how new
[23:09] <nonkn4mer> k1l: thanks for the info, btw
[23:09] <emx> deadmund, zykotick9, k1l: do they include all files (hidden files, special files..)?
[23:10] <deadmund> emx: rysnc has flags to include them
[23:10] <MontyMoose> in the good old days i used to run ffmpeg -i OLDFILE -f mp3 NEWFILE
[23:10] <MontyMoose> and it worked perfectly
[23:10] <guilhermekfe> alien2050: Oh ok, thank you, gonna try it =)
[23:10] <MontyMoose> not so on the new server
[23:11] <alien2050> guilhermekfe: np, just boot a live cd, mount your linus partition to let's say /1 then do a grub-install --root-directory=/1 /dev/sdX
[23:12] <MontyMoose> when I do -codecs on ffmpeg I get: D.A.L. mp3                  MP3 (MPEG audio layer 3) (decoders: mp3 mp3float )
[23:12] <alien2050> MontyMoose: and what changed, I remember using ffmpeg also some time ago...
[23:12] <alien2050> MontyMoose: Should be pretty solid
[23:12] <MontyMoose> I upgraded to a new web server from 8 to 12 I think
[23:12] <Jaredcheeda> can I get some super easy quick assistance :D
[23:12] <MontyMoose> so I got the mp3 codec and installed ffmpeg and it didn't work
[23:12] <MontyMoose> said the codec didn't exist.
[23:13] <alien2050> MontyMoose: which app is saying "codec doesn't exist"?
[23:13] <k1l> Jaredcheeda: ask away
[23:13] <MontyMoose> well sorry - not that it doesn't exist - it does exist, but it says it will only decode not encode
[23:13] <webfox> Could someone help me correct config a keyboard please ?
[23:13] <Jaredcheeda> just need help installing 2 things on a VM of ubuntu
[23:13] <MontyMoose> I do avvonv -codecs to see the installed codecs
[23:14] <alien2050> I dunno with avconv, standard ffmpeg or lame doesn't work ?
[23:14] <k1l> Jaredcheeda: i still dont know how i could help you. just ask your question
[23:14] <MontyMoose> doesn't seem so
[23:14] <zykotick9> k1l: is your crystal-ball not working for Jaredcheeda ;)
[23:14] <Jaredcheeda> they're not the easy double-click to install types. they're the "lets load up terminal" types
[23:14] <alien2050> lame --cbr -b 320 -V2 file.wma   doesn't work ?
[23:14] <midolaru> Maybe u need som propriety codecs
[23:15] <k1l> zykotick9: no, i broke it yesterday :(
[23:15] <somsip> MontyMoose: try libmp3lame not mp3
[23:15] <MontyMoose> with what ffmpeg or avconv?
[23:15] <somsip> MontyMoose: ffmpeg
[23:15] <Jaredcheeda> anyone willing to remote in to show me how it's done
[23:15] <MontyMoose> which isn't currently installed. Should I reinstall it with apt-get, or should I compile it?
[23:15] <alien2050> no just plain lame, you want to output to mp3 ?
[23:16] <hilo> What is the command to create a complete tar backup file of my root filesystem while booted to a live Ubuntu session? I have mounted my root to "/mnt/root"
[23:16] <k1l> !ask | Jaredcheeda
[23:16] <somsip> MontyMoose: ffmpeg -formats migth help you too
[23:16] <MontyMoose> ok
[23:16] <MontyMoose> shall I reinstall ffmpeg again then…
[23:16] <MontyMoose> and if so is it better to use apt-get or compile it myself?
[23:16] <student> where is my computer on windows ubuntu
[23:16] <student> ?
[23:16] <gordonjcp> student: wherever you left it...
[23:17] <somsip> MontyMoose: I use to for video conversion, and it works okay for me. apt-get is the recommended approach
[23:17] <MontyMoose> ok
[23:17] <student> ok
[23:17] <alien2050> sudo apt-get autoremove --purge ffmpeg && sudo apt-get install --reinstall ffmpeg
[23:17] <student> where is start on windows ubuntu
[23:17] <k1l> student: stop that please
[23:17] <MontyMoose> done
[23:17] <alien2050> MontyMoose:  its what I would do.... check the dependencies, maybe something's screwed up....
[23:17] <student> please tell me i dont know
[23:17] <gordonjcp> student: start what?
[23:18] <student> how to explaine
[23:18] <MontyMoose> right oh - I'm now looking through the formats..
[23:18] <MontyMoose> I assume lame should be there?
[23:18] <alien2050> apt-cache search lame | grep enc
[23:19] <gordonjcp> student: you mean for starting programs?  Hit the "flag" key between CTRL and ALT and start typing the name of what you want
[23:19] <alien2050> in 11.10 it is just "lame"
[23:19] <alien2050> in 12.04 unless they removed it, should be the same
[23:20] <alien2050> student: There is no such thing as Windows Ubuntu, it's Windows or Ubuntu, not both...
[23:20] <MontyMoose> ok well there's no mention of lame on the formats list - but there is "mp3             MPEG audio layer 3"
[23:20] <MontyMoose> let me try and convert a wav and see what happens...
[23:20] <zykotick9> alien2050: well, there is wubi ;)
[23:21] <drRocktopus> anyone available for a few quick questions: ubuntu on a lenovo ideaCentre?
[23:21] <alien2050> :)
[23:21] <gordonjcp> !ask | drRocktopus
[23:21] <alien2050> MontyMoose: Try "sudo apt-get install lame" what happens?
[23:22] <drRocktopus> ok thanks :)
[23:22] <drRocktopus> I am getting a 1962 error code : no bootable system
[23:22] <MontyMoose> ok done that - shall I check the formats list again?
[23:22] <MontyMoose> I'll try the following: ffmpeg -i test.wav -f mp3 test.mp3
[23:22] <Guest77636> ciao
[23:22] <Guest77636> list
[23:22] <DarkPT> www.linuxportugal.comunidades.net
[23:23] <alien2050> MontyMoose:  maybe? not sure I understand what you mean, you'll be bypassing avconv from now on.... ;)
[23:23] <drRocktopus> looking to figure out where I am going wrong in my installation
[23:23] <webfox> Could someone help me to set a keyboard and internet please ?
[23:23] <MontyMoose> yeah - never wanted to use it anyway… all my PHP scripts use FFMPEG and I don't want to change them. I only went down the avconv route, cos I couldn't get ffmpeg to work and it told me to!
[23:23] <bekks> webfox: How about asking in #ubuntu ?
[23:23] <alien2050> webfox: details would be nice
[23:23] <nonkn4mer> drRocktopus: what version of ubuntu are you trying to install?  are you installing from CD or USB stick?
[23:23] <bekks> webfox: ;)
[23:24] <zykotick9> MontyMoose: just an fyi, but ogg will give higher audio quality with smaller size then MP3...
[23:24] <bekks> webfox needs to have a DNS server configured on his 12.04 server, and his keyboard does not produce the / key
[23:24] <MontyMoose> I need both to be honest - it needs to be HTML5 audio you see, and i.e. won't support ogg
[23:24] <drRocktopus> I am getting a 1962 error code : no bootable system --  looking to figure out where I am going wrong in my installation  -- using desktop version 12 -- installing from a CD -- I have tried the efi fixes listed on the ubuntu support site but can't get it to see the OD
[23:24] <drRocktopus> OS
[23:24] <webfox> alien2050, I am facing a mistaken keyboard on a Ubuntu Server Vm I brought from Ubuntu to Mac.
[23:25] <MontyMoose> I would love to tell all my customers that IE is not supported, but I don't think I can sadly!
[23:25] <maria_> hla
[23:25] <alien2050> MontyMoose: Should be straightforward with ffmpeg.... why doesn't it work from php ?
[23:25] <nonkn4mer> drRocktopus: so it boots off the CD, and initiates the installation setup?
[23:25] <maria_> alguien de españa
[23:25] <MontyMoose> it does now -
[23:25] <midolaru> U sure u can't play ogg through html5???
[23:25] <MontyMoose> yes you can - but IE doesn't support it
[23:25] <a5m0> i have one computer that's on 3.7.0-4 and one that's on 3.5.0-19 and they both claim they're up to date, any  ideas what's up?
[23:25] <MontyMoose> if you only include ogg, IE won't play
[23:26] <webfox> midolaru, depend on the browser
[23:26] <MontyMoose> with video it's even worse, you need three copies of every file for it to be truly cross-browser
[23:26] <alien2050> ha!
[23:26] <MontyMoose> and that's assuming the IE people are at least on version 9
[23:26] <drRocktopus> yes... it boots fine from the CD
[23:26] <MontyMoose> which most of them aren't!
[23:26] <webfox> alien2050, did you get it?
[23:26] <midolaru> ....standards lol
[23:27] <nonkn4mer> drRocktopus: then start with the basics.  no USB devices or expansion cards installed?
[23:27] <alien2050> webfox: not really, I still don't understand what you're asking......
[23:27] <MontyMoose> the web was much better when it was just text… *mumble mumble* why does everyone want video.
[23:27] <drRocktopus> nope... just the HD and the DVD drive
[23:27] <SonikkuAmerica> MontyMoose: who knows?
[23:27] <alien2050> MontyMoose: Not only video, interactivity!!! :)
[23:27] <nonkn4mer> drRocktopus: have you successfully installed any linux build on that machine?
[23:27] <alien2050> VR and augmented are right around the corner
[23:27] <drRocktopus> no... i'm pretty sure its a problem in the bootloader
[23:27] <MontyMoose> I know … the buggers. That's why my web server has have 6 CPUs and 8GB of memory!
[23:28] <webfox> alien2050, I have moved a virtual machine from a Ubuntu host to a Mac host and the keyboard layout is not working.
[23:28] <drRocktopus> the installer works fine
[23:28] <alien2050> webfox: VM -> what OS
[23:28] <alien2050> ?
[23:29] <webfox> alien2050, VM -> Mac OS, but I am interested in to switch the keyboard from the Client with is Ubuntu Server.
[23:29] <drRocktopus> is there a grub fixing tool?
[23:29] <nonkn4mer> drRocktopus: yes, but you're saying it's not booting at all?
[23:30] <drRocktopus> true... I can only boot off the CD and not of the HDD
[23:30] <webfox> alien2050, did you get it now?
[23:30] <alien2050> webfox: so let me get this straight, you moved a MacOS guest vm to a Mac OS host which was previously on a ubuntu host... ?
[23:30] <HondUSA> Greetings, Whats up everybody?
[23:30] <webfox> alien2050, no
[23:31] <alien2050> keyboard is working but not the layout right
[23:31] <alien2050> ?
[23:31] <webfox> alien2050, I moved a Ubuntu Server client from a Ubuntu Client host to a Mac OS X host.
[23:31] <ShawnRisk> My internet doesn't seem to be connecting on Ubuntu but is connecting on my mac, any ways I can fix this?
[23:31] <alien2050> try "setxkbmap us" just for kicks on the VM
[23:31] <alien2050> is the layout back to normal?
[23:32] <webfox> alien2050, yes, the keyboard is with wrong layout. I guess. I can't access certain keys.
[23:32] <nonkn4mer> drRocktopus: I wouldd recommend trying to install a different build.  maybe 32 bit
[23:32] <guilhermekfe> alien2050: Hey mate, I used grub-install to get the black screen fixed, but didn't work =/
[23:32] <drRocktopus> that was my next plan... the machine is 64bit for sure... but I will be trying the 32 next
[23:32] <alien2050> guilhermekfe:  what command did you type
[23:32] <drRocktopus> why would the 64 not work? just not supported maybe?
[23:32] <guilhermekfe> alien2050:  sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[23:32] <arossDOTme> I am helping a friend. I have given him a flash drive, full install style with adjustments so it does not wear out the flash so quickly. He has mucked up networking. I am a networking newbie. How do I completely reset everything network related? I am looking the the doc on the wiki
[23:33] <nonkn4mer> drRocktopus: that's 1 of a dozen different possibilities
[23:33] <alien2050> guilhermekfe: you didn't get my last message before disconnect, did you ?
[23:33] <webfox> alien2050, what?
[23:33] <drRocktopus> should the installer be able to partition the drive for my machine?
[23:33] <drRocktopus> I mean... properly
[23:33] <guilhermekfe> alien2050: I think I didn't
[23:33] <nonkn4mer> yes.  when it asks what volume you want to install on
[23:33] <webfox> alien2050, are you druged?
[23:33] <nonkn4mer> drRocktopus: you can reformat a drive/partition from the install CD
[23:33] <alien2050> webfox: rotfl, why would I be
[23:34] <webfox> Could someone help me to fix a keyboard layout here pleeese?
[23:34] <drRocktopus> I have done that several times... but I was reading some info on issues with uefi on newer machines
[23:34] <webfox> alien2050, because you are nothing saying nothing with makes sense man...
[23:34] <HondUSA> Question: Is it possible to create an account for this room?
[23:34] <webfox> this auto-complete keyboard fuck is irritating me!
[23:34] <Jordan_U> !language | webfox
[23:34] <IdleOne> !language | webfox
[23:34] <alien2050> webfox: dude seriously....
[23:35] <webfox> Jesus, how difficult is to het some help here!
[23:35] <arossDOTme> webfox: whats the prompem. and carm down
[23:35] <arossDOTme> webfox: be pathent
[23:35] <alien2050> webfox: did you try the command I sent?
[23:35] <nonkn4mer> !patience | webfox
[23:35] <Jordan_U> guilhermekfe: Were you running grub-install from a LiveCD/USB? Did it give any error message?
[23:35] <webfox> alien2050, what command?
[23:35] <webfox> alien2050, what is that for?
[23:35] <guilhermekfe> Jordan_U: No, No.
[23:36] <webfox> alien2050, give some kicks on the vm? What is it supposed to mean?
[23:36] <alien2050> guilhermekfe: last command I said to do was, mount your linux partition to let's say /1, then do a grub-install --root-directory=/1 /dev/sdX
[23:36] <alien2050> guilhermekfe: where X is your drive id (if you've got only one hard disk, most likely /dev/sda)
[23:36] <gordonjcp> !ask | webfox
[23:36] <webfox> arossDOTme, I need to set a new layout to my keyboard.
[23:37] <guilhermekfe> alien2050: from the live cd?
[23:37] <arossDOTme> webfox: I was deciding to help you or to do dishwasher. we are not you slaves.
[23:37] <drRocktopus> thank you for your help nonkn4mer!  I will test out the 32 and let it build the drive how it wants :)
[23:37] <alien2050> webfox: sigh.... ok type , at the terminal prompt the following: setxkbmap us
[23:37] <nonkn4mer> drRocktopus: sounds good
[23:37] <webfox> arossDOTme, then decide fast because I cannot wait for your fuckinf dish washing !
[23:38] <nonkn4mer> can we get a boot now?
[23:38] <alien2050> it will reset your keyboard to US default, is it still mixed up (the keys on the keyboard) ?
[23:38] <nonkn4mer> er, kick rather
[23:38] <webfox> alien2050, how do check which keyboard is it running?
[23:38] <eastr> my keyboard preference keeps changing once in a while why might that be?
[23:39] <arossDOTme> webfox: i was just typing an anwser but I give up stuff you. dam numtly
[23:39] <alien2050> webfox: doesn't matter, it'll reset it if you're able to run the cmd
[23:39] <webfox> alien2050, perhaps I don't need to reset it.
[23:40] <webfox> alien2050, I would like to give it a solid step not some kicks on the air.
[23:40] <gordonjcp> !attitude | webfox
[23:40] <gordonjcp> webfox: I was going to suggest some stuff but frankly you're being a bit of a dick
[23:41] <webfox> How do I check the keyboard my machine is currently using ?
[23:41] <IdleOne> gordonjcp: please keep it family friendly
[23:41] <gordonjcp> webfox: do you mean the keyboard layout?
[23:41] <alien2050> webfox: you should make an effort here
[23:41] <webfox> gordonjcp, yes
[23:41] <gordonjcp> IdleOne: oh come on, pack it in with the "family friendly" nonsense - and tell me just *what* you objected to there
[23:41] <gordonjcp> webfox: right
[23:42] <alien2050> webfox: your problem need to be explained in more details.......
[23:42] <arossDOTme> ...now How to reset networking? ie start from fresh.
[23:42] <webfox> gordonjcp, I have a machine with I installed Ubuntu server at this host Mac OS just to have the default keyboard.
[23:43] <EntropyWorks> is apt-mirror the best way to create a local repository still?
[23:43] <alien2050> arossDOTme: depends if you're using dhcp or static
[23:43] <arossDOTme> dhcp
[23:43] <alien2050> EntropyWorks: yep, I think so
[23:44] <EntropyWorks> alien2050: thx
[23:44] <zykotick9> EntropyWorks: i've never used apt-mirror, but if you don't want to add additional packages - i find apt-cacher or apt-cacher-ng easy to implement/use.
[23:45] <ShawnRisk> My wireless internet doesn't seem to be connecting on Ubuntu but is connecting on my mac, any ways I can fix this?
[23:45] <nonkn4mer> ShawnRisk: is ubuntu a vm on the mac?  or its own system?
[23:45] <alien2050> arossDOTme:  sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[23:45] <webfox> How do I check with keyboard layout my system is currently using please ?
[23:45] <webfox> *which
[23:45] <arossDOTme> alien2050: I think it needs way more than that
[23:46] <alien2050> arossDOTme: depends what you're trying to do
[23:46] <arossDOTme> alien2050: a friend mucked it up. eg installed wicd
[23:46] <alien2050> ah! the infamous wicd
[23:46] <arossDOTme> alien2050: clean it up and start fresh
[23:46] <EntropyWorks> zykotick9: i have a requirement to only have machines using our own repositories.   so can't really use apt-cacher-ng
[23:46] <arossDOTme> Don't know completly what he did
[23:46] <arossDOTme> alien2050:
[23:47] <ShawnRisk> nonkn4mer: the ubuntu system is its own laptop.
[23:47] <webfox> How do I check which keyboard layout my system is currently using please ?
[23:47] <zykotick9> EntropyWorks: i see.  there is a offline mode in one, or both, of tehm?
[23:47] <nonkn4mer> ShawnRisk: this is going to sound dumb, but when I first installed on a dell latitude (coming from a mac background) I forgot that there is a switch on the side to turn on the wifi card.  have you checked for such a switch on your machine?
[23:47] <drRocktopus> nonk4mer: Boots in 32bit :)
[23:47] <alien2050> sudo apt-get autoremove --purge PROG && sudo apt-get install --reinstall PROG would be a good place to start (PROG = network-manager) then only the first part, remove wicd
[23:47] <drRocktopus> mamazing!
[23:47] <alien2050> afk
[23:47] <nonkn4mer> drRocktopus: good to hear :)
[23:48] <popito> Hi all
[23:48] <drRocktopus> now to set everything up.... gonna be a long night heh
[23:48] <drRocktopus> thanks again
[23:48] <arossDOTme> alien2050: and I deleted some conf files.
[23:48] <EntropyWorks> zykotick9: ok I'll checking that out. if I can get away with the offline mode
[23:48] <nonkn4mer> drRocktopus: no problem, sir
[23:48] <arossDOTme> alien2050: ok reinstall net man
[23:49] <nonkn4mer> you might want to check for a bios update on that machine.  if it really is 64 bit capable... might also just need another disto.  maybe something like centOS
[23:49] <juan_> :)
[23:50] <popito> :)
[23:50] <ShawnRisk> nonkn4mer: where is that key, I don't see one, but I know wireless is on because it shows the connections and shows my connection and the wireless is searching.
[23:51] <eidelmaim> hi people
[23:52] <emx> unwrapping the passphrase gives me an error (-5). why?
[23:52] <nonkn4mer> ShawnRisk: depending on the hardware, it may only be able to see 802.11b/g networks.  If you're broadcasting 802.11n it won't see it
[23:52] <popito> Hi eidelmain
[23:52] <ShawnRisk> nonkn4mer: I understand but this was working before, and I might need to restart to get this working which is odd.
[23:52] <webfox> The thong here is the keyboard is not working to try anything which involves slashes for example.
[23:52] <zykotick9> nonkn4mer: i certainly don't know, but i'd guess centos does not support uefi.  cent/rhel uses older, well tested, packages.
[23:52] <webfox> *thing
[23:52] <guikfe> alien2050: me again
[23:53] <guikfe> alien2050: Now I`m getting some errors
[23:53] <guikfe> alien2050: with grub-install
[23:53] <Phosphate>   /join #amahi
[23:54] <guikfe> alien2050: http://pastebin.com/fHHnucAY
[23:54] <nonkn4mer> zykotick9: good point.  Not know what distro he's trying to install, or the validity of the media it's burned on, etc, just suggested a different distro.  For uefi there's always fedora which i think supports it
[23:54] <eidelmaim> ok so i have a question.... i am leaving microfail and moving to ubuntu and i cant seem to get the installer to function correctly... im trying to install off a usb drive... now most likley this is my error for not setting up the usb drive correctly but i just wanna ask.... i have the iso saved on the usb drive... i would have to make the drive bootable first though correct ?
[23:54] <nonkn4mer> zykotick9: just sucks to be forced into using 32 bit if the processor supports 64, ya know?
[23:55] <zykotick9> nonkn4mer: agreed.  uefi = fail ;)
[23:55] <webfox> Could someone help me please ?
[23:55] <RickZilla> webfox: Just ask a question
[23:56] <webfox> RickZilla, how do I verify which keyboard it it currently being used at my machine?
[23:57] <RickZilla> Start typing and see if something shows up on the screen? I'm not real sure what you're asking.
[23:57] <aetcore> hey how do i use a PPA as a backport? for example im on 12.10 and i want to use this guys repo https://launchpad.net/~s-lagui/+archive/ppa but he doesnt support my release (im not sure what the correct terminology is for this)
[23:58] <aetcore> can i tell apt that it has to use older release material?
[23:58] <zykotick9> aetcore: backports are the other direction - new packages on old releases.  i doubt you can do what you want...
[23:58] <webfox> Could someone help me please ?
[23:58] <ztgu> hey
[23:59] <eidelmaim> what is the better freeware to create a ubuntu USB bootable drive ?
[23:59] <popito> hey
[23:59] <aetcore> zykotick9: ok thanks, i will compile from source
[23:59] <ztgu> can someone help me choosing a new laptop for linux
[23:59] <popito> you speak french ?
[23:59] <ztgu> I was thinking about a laptop with Nvidia card so my brother can game
[23:59] <ztgu> http://www.howtogeek.com/124685/how-to-make-nvidias-optimus-work-on-linux/
[23:59] <zykotick9> aetcore: are you familiar with checkinstall?  if not, see "/msg ubottu checkinstall" for details
[23:59] <ztgu> But I have heard of someone with problems with this thing