[09:34] <JamesTait> Good morning, Angels! :-D
[11:18] <gatox> good morning!
[11:47] <gatox> brb...... need to restart
[11:58] <alecu> good morning, all!
[11:59] <gatox> alecu, hi
[12:01] <mandel> alecu, gatox, hello!
[12:01] <alecu> I've got my daughter Amelia with a big rash spread all around, so I'm not taking her to kinder today, and will take her to the doctor as soon as the traffic around calms down a bit.
[12:01] <gatox> mandel, o/
[12:01] <mandel> gatox, yes, I was drunk during the weekend ;) (which explains twitter)
[12:01] <alecu> (there's a subway strike to complicate matters around here)
[12:01] <gatox> alecu, ack
[12:01] <mandel> alecu, uhh cuida a amelia!
[12:01] <gatox> mandel, jejejejeje i figure it out
[12:01] <alecu> so, I'm probably taking at least the morning off... I'll let ralsina know as soon as he gets here.
[12:21] <Chipaca> alecu: ralsina is stuck in the 18th century but should be back sometime soon (he just needs to find 1.21GW in usable form)
[12:21] <Chipaca> alecu: take care of amelia; between mandel, cparrino and myself somebody will let ralsina know :)
[12:22] <alecu> Chipaca: great, thanks!
[12:23]  * Chipaca was always tickled by the ridiculous precision that number was given in, vis-a-vis the cudeness of the rest of the equipment
[12:24] <alecu> Chipaca: I'm guessing that from the 18th century he cannot pinpoint exactly the time to return, and will probably get around here with a year's offset.
[12:24] <alecu> I'm talking about ralsina, not dr. brown.
[12:24] <Chipaca> alecu: traveling forwards in time is sooper easy
[12:24] <Chipaca> alecu: all you have to do is stay still
[12:25] <Chipaca> alecu: you can even speed it up by just moving
[12:25] <Chipaca> just bounce of walls as stuff as you can
[12:25] <mandel> alecu, gatox, we might also have rendering bugs in the text entry of nux.. talking with nux experts about thins on how to solve it..
[12:25] <alecu> Chipaca: but you can only get so far
[12:25] <mandel> alecu, gatox, I'm talking about nux::TextEntry nothing related with us..
[12:25] <alecu> Chipaca: you are still limited by the lifespan of your body :-(
[12:26] <gatox> mandel, mmm...... i'm fixing libunity here for the errorpreview protocol
[12:26] <alecu> mandel: what kind of bugs?
[12:26] <Chipaca> alecu: if you bounce of things at seven-nines of c, you'd be surprised at how interesting your life span becomes
[12:26] <Chipaca> of course, seven nines is quite extreme
[12:26] <mandel> alecu, infinite loop by calling recreate canvas when added in a layout
[12:27] <mandel> alecu, similar to what the static cairo text problem we had, thankfully I read yhe book you sent
[12:27] <gatox> mandel, yac
[12:27] <gatox> yack
[12:28] <alecu> mandel: I'm thinking of searching for the lost chapters in that book.
[12:29] <alecu> mandel: "when added in a layout". At what point are we exactly adding the textentry to the layout?
[12:30] <alecu> mandel: are we doing it at "form" construction time?
[12:30] <alecu> mandel: or later?
[12:30] <alecu> mandel: (by "form", I mean, the container widget)
[12:31] <mandel> alecu, we create the layout and add it, later that layout is added to the main preview layout
[12:33] <alecu> mandel: and all of this happens in the main preview constructor? or does it happen later, for instance, in the middle of a paint cycle?
[12:33] <alecu> mandel: the later case is usually problematic for some toolkits.
[12:33] <mandel> alecu, in the paint cycle, so that the object does get created but never painted
[12:33] <alecu> mandel: if this happens in the former case, it surely looks like a bug of nux.
[12:34] <mandel> alecu, the fact that this happens https://pastebin.canonical.com/79574/ is also smelly
[12:34] <alecu> mandel: I mean, is the layout added *during* the paint cycle?
[12:34] <mandel> alecu, that is while doing nothing (of course the mouse is out of the window)
[12:34] <mandel> alecu, oh, no, is added at construction time AFAIK
[12:34] <karni> Good morning o/
[12:40] <alecu> mandel: yes, that looks like the Cairo context is being recreated on each draw cycle, due to the layout being unstable.
[12:40] <alecu> mandel: which is a serious red flag.
[12:40] <mandel> alecu, yes yes, which is something that has worried me since I saw it, remember I mentioned this in the sprint?
[12:42] <alecu> mandel: I remember you talking a lot about Tubers. Oh, and I think I remember you mentioned this, too.
[12:43] <gatox> karni, o/
[12:43] <karni> o/
[13:14] <mandel> alecu, ralsina, mvo, the nux work will make our stuff land later than expected, we have a big problem in there
[13:19] <mandel> alecu, ralsina_, looks like we have several rendering bugs, one with the canvas being deleted every two frames, another with layouts not working when they have more than one cairo text
[13:22] <mandel> and text does not use ellipses correctly.. nice...
[13:53] <mandel> alecu, ralsina_, karni, mvo => gatox has lost internet connection
[13:53] <karni> ack
[13:53] <mvo> ok
[14:22] <gatox> backk....... i'm connected using the phone...... so is not very trusty....... but during my not connection time..... i was able to fix libunity-error preview and the error preview branch! \o/
[14:39] <diogobaeder_> test
[16:31]  * gatox lunch
[16:38] <ralsina_> good morning!
[16:39] <karni> o/
[16:45] <dobey> hola ralsina_
[16:45] <ralsina_> hola dobey!
[17:14] <dobey> lunch, bbiab
[23:12] <dobey> later all