[10:27] <mr_pouit> mmh, this is "alpha week", isn't it?
[10:27] <mr_pouit> so I'll upload exo 0.10.0 and thunar 1.6.0 next week, not to disturb testing...
[10:36] <elfy> didn't think there were any alpha's - just specific testing as and when 
[10:39] <mr_pouit> knome will know
[10:43] <smartboyhw> mr_pouit, no alpha except Kubuntu I think
[10:43] <smartboyhw> I saw on the -release mailing list
[10:47] <mr_pouit> no alpha except Xubuntu
[10:48] <mr_pouit> oh no, you're right
[10:48] <mr_pouit> so I don't need to wait ;>
[10:49] <elfy> mr_pouit: not as far as I know 
[10:53] <knome> mr_pouit, no, just go ahead
[10:54] <smartboyhw> mr_pouit, exact mail: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-November/002088.html
[10:56] <mr_pouit> yeah, I'm subscribed, so I found it ;-)
[14:32] <zequence> knome: Hi. We changed the look on the Ubuntu Studio front page a bit. Put the news page there. Let us know what you think
[14:32] <knome> zequence, i know you did. i helped scott do it :)
[14:32] <knome> zequence, also, see the RT ticket i sent (you should've gotten an autoreply from RT)
[14:33] <knome> zequence, as long as you/US are happy, i'm fine with whatever you do with the site :)
[14:33] <zequence> knome: What is the code changing? Something about the news?
[14:34] <knome> zequence, go to the front page, and scroll to bottom
[14:34] <knome> wait, what...
[14:34] <knome> zequence, well, there used to be an unnecessary link at the footer.
[14:35] <knome> zequence, it's simply removing that (a very trivial change) and some php comments
[14:36] <knome> anyway, 99.99% of people wouldn't even notice that
[14:36] <knome> :)
[14:36] <knome> hey bluesabre 
[14:36] <zequence> Yea, probably
[14:36] <bluesabre> hey knome
[14:36] <zequence> We'll be doing a bit more news postings now, so hopefully that page will come alive more
[14:36] <knome> zequence, if there's something else you need from me regarding the administration or code, feel free to ping me
[14:37] <knome> zequence, but generally, please go away and change things as you see fit, no need to ask my permission :)
[14:43] <zequence> knome: I think we aren't sure yet what we want, but one thing that comes to mind is it might be nice having a header on the front page, above the news, saying something like "Latest News"
[14:44] <knome> zequence, right. do you think you'll make progress on knowing what you want soonish, or should i push that change in now?
[14:45] <zequence> knome: Let me discuss it first. As it is a change in the code, would be ok if we could upload ourselves, but with all the hazzle of going through rt. seems like we better be totally sure
[14:45] <zequence> I'm assuming you need to do a change to the theme..
[14:46] <knome> yup. you can't pass IS though.
[14:46] <knome> as long as the site is served by canonical, IS will need to go through the changes
[14:46] <knome> that's why i asked if you're progressing; it's easier to get more changes in at the same time than dropping small things here and there
[14:48] <zequence> Would probably be best to use a staging site in our own control. I could set one up.
[14:49] <zequence> knome: I'll get back to you :)
[14:49] <knome> probably, if you're unsure of the changes you want to do
[14:49] <knome> zequence, great! :)
[15:09] <knome> hey micahg, you around and have a moment?
[15:11] <micahg> knome: a short moment :)
[15:11] <knome> micahg, do you know if the action buttons applet uses xfce4-session-logout?
[15:11] <micahg> knome: offhand, no idea
[15:11] <knome> micahg, if yes, what's the parameter to give to it to get the confirmation dialog?
[15:11] <knome> micahg, if not, what's the command to get that?
[15:11] <knome> meh
[15:11] <knome> i was hoping you knew ;]
[15:12]  * micahg hasn't really dug into the xfce codebase, mr_pouit would be the one to ask
[15:12] <knome> yeah, i know, but he's idle
[15:12] <knome> i'll just try to find out myself
[15:12] <micahg> I can look later in the week if he doesn't get back to you
[15:12] <knome> nah
[15:12] <knome> i'll just dig it up somewhere
[15:12] <micahg> knome: figure out which binary hosts it, pull-lp-source foo; then grep
[15:12] <knome> or ask him if i haven't found the answer before lionel gets back
[15:13] <knome> i looked at the source already, i don't think it's that
[15:13] <micahg> (that's what I'd have to do anyways)
[15:13] <knome> but... :)
[15:13] <knome> i'll find out.
[15:15] <knome> thanks anyway :)
[15:15] <knome> and have a nice day/evening
[15:25] <GridCube> knome, http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-panel/actions
[15:25] <GridCube> its says; The plugin uses xfce4-session to handle the power actions, so it won't function properly if you use another or no session manager. 
[15:32] <knome> GridCube, that seems outdated, and it's not really the question :)
[15:32] <knome> GridCube, uses xfce4-session for sure, but what's the dialog/how does it call it to get the confirmation screen
[15:32] <knome> GridCube, i don't mean the screen you get where you can choose what you want to do
[15:32] <knome> GridCube, but the dialog which asks you if you *really* want to shut down/whatever
[15:33] <GridCube> oh, ok, im trying to figure out how that progam is called actually, theres no reference to "action buttons" on the xfce git or synaptic
[15:33] <knome> xfce4-session-logout is the one that's launched
[15:34] <knome> but that + --help doesn't tell me how to get the confirmation dialog if i choose a specified action
[15:34] <GridCube> thats the logout, not action buttons
[15:34] <mr_pouit> the small dialog with the timer is created by the panel pkugin
[15:34] <mr_pouit> *plugin
[15:35] <GridCube> how is that plugin called?
[15:35] <knome> micahg, that tells a lot.. :)
[15:35] <knome> err, mr_pouit 
[15:35] <mr_pouit> http://git.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-panel/tree/plugins/actions/actions.c#n725
[15:36] <knome> mr_pouit, so there's no way to get that without the applet?
[15:38] <mr_pouit> I don't think so
[15:38] <knome> exit
[15:38] <knome> oops, wrong window
[15:38] <knome> so, yeah
[15:38] <knome> that answers my question
[15:38] <knome> i'll just do something else then
[16:22] <mr_pouit> hop, this thunar 1.6.0 upload closes 23 bugs
[16:22] <knome> cool
[17:49] <pleia2> there is now a https://www.facebook.com/xubuntuhungary
[17:49] <pleia2> two admins who are known in the hungarian community, and me
[17:52] <GridCube> there should be a xubuntu.deviantart.com, to ask for wallpapers and such
[17:53] <pleia2> I think we'd need to make the decision to include more artwork first
[17:53] <pleia2> which means dropping more default apps or going beyond CD size
[17:54] <GridCube> pleia2, not so sure, i mean, having a place where we can encourage our users to go and find a theming community for their desktops aint that bad, regardless of wallpaper space
[17:55] <micahg> we can have stuff in the archive that's not in the default install
[17:55] <pleia2> micahg: ah, right!
[17:55] <pleia2> GridCube: I just don't want to tell people to do work that has no possibility of being included
[17:55] <pleia2> waste of effort and all that
[17:56] <micahg> we can even do like Ubuntu Studio and have an installer in the menu that says get more wallpaper here or something
[17:58] <pleia2> yeah, I like how they do that for some things
[17:58] <pleia2> I want one for gimp and gnumeric :)
[17:58]  * drc has used the same wallpaper for...or...three or four years :)
[17:58] <pleia2> drc: yeah, me too
[17:59] <elfy> I've probably still got the wallpaper I used 3 years ago ... 
[17:59] <pleia2> *normal* people really like default selections of backgrounds
[17:59] <elfy> oh right ... 
[17:59] <elfy> :)
[17:59] <drc> there's a difference between never throwing anything away and using the same thing for a long time:)
[18:00] <elfy> ha ha 
[18:00] <drc> I <might> use differing wallpapers if you could assign a different one to each virtual desktop
[18:00] <pleia2> that would be neat
[18:01] <elfy> then I'd feel honour bound to have different ones on each screen and would go nuts choosing 
[18:02] <pleia2> hehe
[18:02] <drc> Seeing as how I only have 2 VD's, it's not much of a problem for me.
[18:02] <pleia2> 16 \o/
[18:03] <drc> I'd have to take my shoes off to count that high.
[18:03] <pleia2> true
[18:03] <elfy> me too drc 
[18:05]  * drc thinks pleia2's machine must resemble a maze of twisty passages full of grues.
[18:07]  * pleia2 always carries a flashlight
[18:07]  * drc wonders how many turns it takes her to turn it on?
[18:10] <drc> But back to GridCube's original idea...There are many places one can get/put wallpapers...not sure there needs to be a "xubnuntu" wallpaper site/place/whatever.
[18:11] <drc> Maybe a greater appeal to the artistic community for new wallpapers for new issues?
[18:47] <knome> the problem with wallpapers are the size.
[18:48] <knome> s/are/is/
[19:17] <GridCube> knome, that can be arranged on the submit to gallery preferences of the deviantart groups
[19:20] <knome> there are other ways to sort it out if they are not on the ISO.
[19:20] <GridCube> mmhm yes