[02:22] <xubuntu660> hello
[02:48] <c2tarun> Can anyone please suggest me a good Chat client for Xubuntu? Pidgin store passwords in plane text format, its kind of creepy
[02:49] <Sadin> c2tarun: xchat
[02:49] <c2tarun> Sadin, GTalk
[02:49] <c2tarun> for gTalk
[02:50] <Sadin> c2tarun: ah sorry didnt specify :P
[02:50] <c2tarun> Sadin, my fault :)
[02:51] <Sadin> c2tarun: wish i knew any only really use IRC here maybe search the package manager?
[02:57] <john____> c2tarun, emesene
[03:12] <c2tarun> john____, I m trying to open its preferences but its crashing
[03:13] <john____> c2tarun, are you running xubuntu 12.10?
[03:14] <c2tarun> john____, nope Xubuntu 12.04
[03:17] <john____> c2tarun, don't know, try the latest version
[03:17] <john____> http://blog.emesene.org/p/downloads.html
[03:28] <c2tarun> john____, thanks :) tying to install the latest stable now
[03:34] <john____> c2tarun, i hope it works :)
[03:38] <c2tarun> john____, it worked :) thanks a lot
[03:41] <john____> c2tarun, nice! :)
[09:58] <mchammer> hi there
[09:59] <mchammer> got a small problem: after an xconf-issue my theme/style is set to the default xface-style
[09:59] <mchammer> and i can't change it back to greyboard
[09:59] <mchammer> *greybird
[09:59] <mchammer> i can't change the style at all
[09:59] <mchammer> can anybody help me with taht?
[10:00] <mchammer> same for icons etc
[10:00] <mchammer> everything appearance-related
[10:04] <TheSheep> "an xconf-issue"?
[10:06] <mchammer> had a dual-monitor xconf
[10:07] <mchammer> started xubuntu with one monitor only
[10:07] <mchammer> couldnt find any monitors
[10:07] <mchammer> had to create a new xconf and so on
[10:07] <mchammer> thing is: i'm a linux noob
[10:07] <mchammer> and i don't know where to start looking
[10:07] <mchammer> google didnt help
[10:08] <blackgatonegro> well ubuntu does have forum and guides
[10:08] <blackgatonegro> first thing you should do after install of xubuntu is install xubuntu restricted drivers
[10:08] <blackgatonegro> next intall the privative video card driver
[10:09] <mchammer> ye
[10:09] <blackgatonegro> then just install the programs you want, like I dunno, pidgin, libreoffice?
[10:09] <mchammer> i got that all running
[10:09] <mchammer> with my nvidia
[10:09] <mchammer> everything was fine
[10:09] <mchammer> then i tried to use my laptop without my external
[10:09] <mchammer> and shit hit the fan :F
[10:10] <blackgatonegro> http://linux.about.com/od/xubuntu_doc/a/xubudg31t01.htm
[10:10] <blackgatonegro> is xubuntu installed in the external?
[10:10] <blackgatonegro> cause that would like, explain it
[10:10] <mchammer> yes
[10:10] <mchammer> i got both monitors working again
[10:11] <mchammer> my problem now is: i can't get my styles/icons back to work
[10:11] <mchammer> its all default-xfce
[10:11] <mchammer> and not greybird
[10:16] <blackgatonegro> well, you can install the theme again
[10:17] <blackgatonegro> unfortunately, xfce has that bug, one bad log off and it reverts to default
[10:23] <TheSheep> blackgatonegro: really? tell me more about that
[10:23] <mchammer> okay and how do i install it back again?
[10:23] <mchammer> i still got the list with all themes
[10:23] <mchammer> bit when i click on a style, nothing happens
[10:24] <TheSheep> mchammer: do you have a .gtkrc or .gtkrc-2.0 file in your home directory?
[10:24] <TheSheep> mchammer: you need to enable showing hidden files in thunar to see them
[10:24] <Bartzy> hello :)
[10:24] <Bartzy> Can I create a keyboard shortcut to move tabs around in xfce4-terminal ?
[10:25] <mchammer> mom
[10:25] <TheSheep> Bartzy: not really
[10:25] <Bartzy> TheSheep, Bummber , It's possible with gnome terminal :)
[10:26] <TheSheep> Bartzy: you can use the gnome terminal with xubuntu just fine
[10:26] <Bartzy> bummer*
[10:26] <Bartzy> I won't need to install half of gnome ?
[10:26] <TheSheep> Bartzy: you probably will
[10:26] <Bartzy> I don't like that :)
[10:26] <mchammer> no, i only got .gtk-bookmarks
[10:27] <TheSheep> mchammer: so what did you exactly change, only /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[10:29] <mchammer> as i said i had problems starting xfce, so i went into the console and wrote a new xonf-file via some nvidia tool
[10:30] <mchammer> cant remember its name
[10:30] <TheSheep> I have no idea what "xonf-file" is
[10:30] <mchammer> xconf
[10:30] <mchammer> sorry
[10:30] <TheSheep> nope, doesn't help
[10:33] <mchammer> hmm
[10:33] <mchammer> thx anyway
[10:34] <mchammer> no time for this right now
[10:38] <blackgatonegro> TheSheep, well, there is something called settings manager"
[10:50] <blackgatonegro> mchammer, well, there is something called settings manager, you can change the theme and lots of settings using it
[10:53] <TheSheep> blackgatonegro: that's what he was using
[10:55] <blackgatonegro> TheSheep, maybe you could do a xubuntu partition in the computer you are using, using a external HD is usually not the best idea for xubuntu
[10:55] <blackgatonegro> wait, that was mchammer?
[10:55] <blackgatonegro> ???
[10:56] <blackgatonegro> mchammer, maybe you could do a xubuntu partition in the computer you are using, using a external HD is usually not the best idea for xubuntu, unless you never plug it off, and that kinda defeats the purpose of having a external HD.
[10:58] <blackgatonegro> mchammer , if you want some kind of portable linux, there are other linux distros that do that.
[10:58] <TheSheep> blackgatonegro: please stop giving horrible advice
[10:58] <blackgatonegro> ok
[11:02] <mchammer> sorry
[11:02] <mchammer> was afk
[11:02] <mchammer> no external drive
[11:03] <mchammer> and yes, i used the settings manager
[11:03] <mchammer> and i can click on all the themes/styles
[11:03] <mchammer> but nothing happens
[11:04] <TheSheep> mchammer: can you check if it actually changes the settings in the file?
[11:05] <TheSheep> mchammer: you can check it with gconf-editor
[11:06] <mchammer> where is it located?
[11:06] <TheSheep> sorry
[11:06] <TheSheep> that's xfce4-settings-editor
[11:07] <TheSheep> just open a terminal and type 'xfce4-settings-editor'
[11:08] <mchammer> okay im in it
[11:08] <mchammer> and now?
[11:08] <TheSheep> the gtk and icon themes are under xsettings, the xfwm theme is under xfwm4
[11:08] <mchammer> thx ill look
[11:08] <TheSheep> try changing it in the settings manager and see if it changes in that settings editor
[11:09] <mchammer> okay
[11:11] <mchammer> it changes the name
[11:11] <mchammer> in the settings editor
[11:13] <TheSheep> ok, so the settings work, just are ignored for some reason
[11:15] <mchammer> yea
[11:51] <xubuntu893> всем привет! есть русские в конфе?
[13:17] <mks_> Привет!!!!!
[13:17] <mks_> земляк :)
[13:18] <knome> !ru | mks_
[15:05] <knome> is the action buttons applet using xfce4-session-logout?
[15:08] <knome> if yes, what's the parameter to give to xfce4-session-logout to do a single action, but ask for confirmation?
[16:10] <c2tarun> is there anyway by which I take the screenshot and upload it directly to imagebin or someother place?
[16:11] <GridCube> press prnt-screen and upload to the option it says there
[16:11] <c2tarun> GridCube, its saying host on ZimageZ
[16:12] <c2tarun> GridCube, ohh.. that will work :) thanks
[16:12] <c2tarun> GridCube, but is there anyway to change this site?
[16:12] <GridCube> no, but you can make your own scripts using scrot and wget
[16:21] <baizon> im using synapse :)
[16:21] <baizon> it got a build in plugin to upload :)
[16:21] <baizon> but i think this isnt what you are searching for
[17:07] <aperson> hi!  I recently installed xubuntu-desktop and removed most of the remnants of kde off my system.  I now find that lightdm does not work.  I've tried fresh lightdm configs to no avail.  I am using gdm right now, but I'd like to go back to lightdm.  Can anyone help or point me in the right direction on where to start?
[17:13] <baizon> aperson: you need the xubuntu lightdm package
[17:14] <aperson> I see there is the gtk one and the qt one, but nothing specifically mentions xubuntu, baizon
[17:14] <aperson> I'm assuming you mean lightdm-gtk-greeter ?
[17:16] <GridCube> aperson, yes
[17:16] <GridCube> aperson, whats the problem exactly?
[17:16] <aperson> lightdm just fails to start
[17:17] <GridCube> mmmmhmm so you dont get to the greeter, but you do get to the gdm greeter?
[17:17] <baizon> hmm
[17:17] <aperson> after I installed gdm and set that as the new default, gdm works fine
[17:18] <GridCube> ok
[17:18] <aperson> I remember trying to start lightdm from a tty, but it spat out some error that I failed to capture
[17:18] <GridCube> have you done a sudo apt-get purge lightdm && sudo apt-get autoclean && sudo apt-get autoremove
[17:18] <aperson> the gtk greeter package was already installed, btw
[17:19] <aperson> GridCube, I had apt write new configs for lightdm
[17:20] <aperson> so everything in /etc/lightdm/ is brand new
[18:28] <Catbuntu> ohai
[18:28] <baizon> !hi | Catbuntu
[18:28] <Catbuntu> !patiente | baizon
[18:28] <Catbuntu> lol
[18:28] <Catbuntu> !patience | baizon
[18:28] <baizon> :)
[18:29] <Catbuntu> Nah, hello
[18:29] <Catbuntu> Wherever I go, I always go back to home: XUBUNTU
[18:29] <baizon> of course because its the best distribution ;)
[18:29] <Catbuntu> I had to fight a bit to install granola because they've not a Quantal repo yet, so I had to install the debs.
[18:29] <Catbuntu> Butttt I have a question
[18:29] <Catbuntu> I added the Granola repo installing a package
[18:30] <Catbuntu> How can I remove it from the software sources? Editing sources.list as always
[18:30] <Catbuntu> ?
[18:30] <holstein> i do that, or i install synaptic and do it in that GUI.. i like synaptic and usually just install it
[18:30] <baizon> or removing sources.d/<file>
[18:30] <Catbuntu> I'll see if it's on sources.d
[18:30] <Catbuntu> holstein, wait, Synaptic has a sources.list GUI manager?
[18:31] <holstein> settings - repositories
[18:32] <Catbuntu> Thanks, didn't know that
[18:32] <Catbuntu> I really never used Synaptic, I preffer command line
[18:32] <Catbuntu> But that's cool :D
[18:33] <holstein> Catbuntu: either way... you should get the same results.. also there is ppa-purge from the commandline
[18:33] <holstein> !ppa-purge
[18:34] <Catbuntu> But that's not a PPA
[18:34] <Catbuntu> I know
[18:34] <Catbuntu> Well, it's on sources.list.d
[19:58] <Catbuntu> À bientôt, Auf Wiedersehen, Bye Bye, Paká
[20:43] <JND314> folks, good afternoon.
[20:44] <JND314> I've spent some time now trying to get xubuntu to boot after I've installed it on my new lenovo c30 workstation.
[20:44] <JND314> it would appear that I have now seen a similar pb with ubuntu, ubuntu-gnome, and xubuntu.
[20:44] <JND314> I think its a grub problem.
[20:46] <JND314> I have a thinkstation c30, bios rev A1KT40AUS, secure boot is not enabled, UEFI boot mode is on auto. Its a spanking new computer, complete wipe of the drive for *ubuntu install.
[20:46] <JND314> I prefer xubuntu.
[20:47] <JND314> I've burned dvds on my mac of iso files whose md5sum I've double checked.
[20:47] <JND314> oddly, while ubuntu-gnome and xubuntu don't come up after install, ubuntu did, once, and now it doesnt.
[20:47] <JND314> I have not bricked my box (whew), I'm in the bios config now.
[20:48] <JND314> If there's anyone who knows grub or some why I can even get to my drive then I will have a lot of info to work with.
[20:49] <knome> JND314, i have to say i don't know if this has to do with UEFI, but on my new laptop, i had to create a small (few hundred megs) partition at the beginning of the drive to get xubuntu working
[20:49] <JND314> let me say that I when I do an install, I use 12.10 iso binaries (let's say xubuntu) on a dvd. I install with a clean install (wipe) of the os, enable LVM,
[20:50] <knome> JND314, this is what the laptop had when it had windows preinstalled
[20:50] <JND314> and the process is completely smooth. On reboot grub seems to fall thru all the way to my network loader, which is null.
[20:50] <JND314> knome, oh?
[20:51] <knome> JND314, yup. a samsung series 5, if that helps you debug this at all
[20:52] <JND314> I've been reading about the samsung laptop issue.
[20:52] <knome> JND314, is your a samsung too?
[20:52] <JND314> I don't think that I have the same pb.
[20:52] <knome> what's your model?
[20:52] <JND314> I have a thinkstation c30
[20:53] <knome> oh right, you said that already. silly me...
[20:53] <JND314> if you scroll up a bit I've given some details on this.
[20:53] <JND314> no worries.
[20:53] <knome> yeah, i don't think i can help much
[20:53] <knome> have you asked about this in #ubuntu?
[20:53] <JND314> I'm inclined, if I can figure it out or get help, to edit my grub config
[20:53] <knome> since this isn't a xubuntu-specific issue, they might be able to help too, even if you're installing xubuntu
[20:54] <JND314> well, I'm headed down that road, too.
[20:54] <JND314> its *really* odd that ubuntu booted fine yday after its install
[20:54] <knome> ok, just so you know: generally it's not encouraged to crosspost
[20:54] <JND314> but today, after another fresh install, it does not.
[20:54] <JND314> I'm aware.
[20:54] <JND314> but when there's no help its fair to move on.
[20:55] <knome> yeah. nothing personal, just pointing out :)
[20:55] <JND314> the good folks at ubuntu-gnome didn't really know, and now I see that it wasn't specific to them I've come here.
[20:55] <JND314> yep. no pb.
[20:55] <knome> yeah. sounds wonky though.
[20:56] <JND314> yeah, in fact only after I jumped on this chat did ubuntu not come up, although I expected it to.
[20:56] <JND314> its oddly consistent. and my box isn't bricked.
[20:56] <JND314> I think its grub.
[20:56] <JND314> I think.
[21:07] <Riley88> hey guys is anyone here good with uefi i tried to duel boot ubuntu 12.10 but couldnt get grub to show up
[21:07] <Riley88> i already turned of secure boot in the bios
[21:08] <Riley88> i heard 12.04 is supposed to have better uefi support
[21:09] <Riley88> is anyone here
[21:10] <baizon> Riley88: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting
[21:10] <baizon> you watched there?
[21:10] <Riley88> i read that already still couldnt get grub to show up
[21:17] <Riley88> i just wanted a 50gig partition for games so i was just going to choose install along side of windows7 when i did it sunday on ubuntu 12.10 grub wouldnt show up and i ended up nuking my win7 install because the partition got messed up
[21:20] <JND314> my cxn is up and down as I'm switching between networks
[21:44] <JND314_> I'm going to make a guess that grub is not being installed on my hd.
[21:44] <JND314_> if it is installed then its not pointing to the right file.
[21:45] <JND314_> in grub I clearly see prefix=(cd0)/boot/grub, and I can cat (hd0)/boot/grub/grub.cfg
[21:46] <JND314_> fyi the grub_platform=efi
[22:06] <JND314_> now I'm thinking that the Intel Boot Agent (GE V1.3.72) is preempting grub
[22:15] <JND314_> link describing about what I see: http://askubuntu.com/questions/141879/error-1962-no-opertating-system-found-after-installing-12-04-lenevo-thinkcentre
[22:56] <subman> Does Xubuntu not support screen captures?  I tried with Alt+PrintScr and nothing happens
[23:24] <a5m0> i have one computer that's on 3.7.0-4 and one that's on 3.5.0-19 and they both claim they're up to date, any  ideas what's up?
[23:43] <picarda> hello everyone
[23:44] <picarda> anyone can tell me how I can install more compiz effect on xubuntu v12.10?