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| jodh | Hi - I'd like to request a non-virt PPA builder for lp:upstart. The environment of the existing PPA causes test failures that are not recreateable on any other system so we believe the issue may relate to Hardy and/or Xen somehow. See https://code.launchpad.net/~jamesodhunt/+recipe/upstart-daily. | 08:48 |
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| jodh | Ideally, the PPA would be usable by all Canonical Foundation Team members. | 08:49 |
| xnox | czajkowski: ^^^^ | 09:46 |
| xnox | is there a policy about non-virt ppa's? and what is the procedure for us to follow? Create ppa -> file question -> wait? | 09:46 |
| soren | jodh: Is Hardy/Xen not a supported environment? | 12:02 |
| jodh | soren: something is 'different' in this environment and that something is causing the upstart tests to fail reliably. | 12:03 |
| soren | jodh: Understood. | 12:03 |
| soren | jodh: My question remains the same, though :) | 12:04 |
| jodh | soren: Upstart is very sensitive to kernel versions, etc and 3 people so far have attempted to identify the cause of the problem. So, it would be preferable if we could have a non-vm env unless anyone else can work out what is going on :=) | 12:04 |
| jodh | soren: if by supported you are referring to upstart, I would say no as it doesn't work :) Certainly, not the new versions of upstart we are attempting to build currently. | 12:05 |
| soren | jodh: Ok. | 12:14 |
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| jodh | can anybody comment on this request please? | 14:32 |
| czajkowski | jodh: am offline sick todaym can you file a lp question please and maybe sinzui might be able to help | 14:34 |
| jodh | czajkowski: sorry to hear that! will do, ta. | 14:34 |
| sinzui | what does upstart have to do with launchpad? | 14:36 |
| jodh | sinzui: nothing directly, but see above - we are unable to run the upstart tests successfully in a hardy+xen environment. | 14:37 |
| jodh | czajkowski: impressed that I can select Cornish and Manx as languages when raising a question! :) | 14:38 |
| sinzui | jodh, you should contact the upstart maintainer team or ask a question to the project: https://answers.launchpad.net/upstart | 14:39 |
| jodh | sinzui: I am the Upstart maintainer. | 14:39 |
| sinzui | Then you want to talk to Scott who has more experience with it | 14:40 |
| jodh | sinzui: the problem we have is with the environment that the PPA builders provide - "something" appears to be different to every other environment Upstart successfully builds and runs in. We just don't know what :) | 14:40 |
| jodh | sinzui: no - Scott is not involved with this. | 14:40 |
| sinzui | hmm | 14:41 |
| jodh | sinzui: so would you like me to continue raising this launchpad 'question'? We just need a non-virt PPA for upstart builds. | 14:41 |
| TheLordOfTime | tsimpson, what's the likelihood the username'll change if i have active PPAs? | 14:42 |
| TheLordOfTime | (in regards to what I asked yesterday) | 14:42 |
| sinzui | The people who could help are wgrant, bigjools and cjwatson. I think bigjools is here this week, but in Australia. | 14:42 |
| tsimpson | TheLordOfTime: I would say it's fairly likely, but it needs manual intervention from what I understand | 14:43 |
| sinzui | jodh, I would have to defer that to bigjools. We only allow teams with all Canonical staff to use non-virtual builders. | 14:44 |
| TheLordOfTime | tsimpson, and i would get their intervention by filing a question against Launchpad? | 14:44 |
| sinzui | I will assign the question to him. | 14:44 |
| tsimpson | TheLordOfTime: yes | 14:44 |
| jodh | sinzui: ok. I'm requesting this for the Canonical Foundations Team, of which I am a member. My manager is aware of this issue and is happy to sponsor the request. | 14:45 |
| sinzui | fab | 14:45 |
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| TheLordOfTime | tsimpson, does my @ubuntu.com email address change/update automatically? | 14:52 |
| TheLordOfTime | if a username change happens. :P | 14:52 |
| tsimpson | TheLordOfTime: eventually, but you may want to ask that along with your question | 14:53 |
| TheLordOfTime | heh, i found an auto-generated user with my name... :P | 15:04 |
| TheLordOfTime | because I accidentally mis-signed a maverick changelog xD | 15:04 |
| tsimpson | you can merge the accounts | 15:14 |
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| TheLordOfTime | yep | 15:42 |
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| Adri2000 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-archive/+subscribedbugs times out here | 16:49 |
| tsimpson | indeed OOPS-b3bda0265ac1164d949d9f9cf3c7199e | 16:50 |
| ubot5 | https://oops.canonical.com/?oopsid=OOPS-b3bda0265ac1164d949d9f9cf3c7199e | 16:50 |
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| nxvl | hey, is there any page with information on how long it usually takes for a package to build in a ppa (as in waiting in queue before build starts)? | 20:28 |
| wgrant | nxvl: You can see a current estimate of the queue depth on the RHS of https://launchpad.net/builders | 20:31 |
| nxvl | wgrant: awesome, thanks! | 20:36 |
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