=== slank is now known as slank_away === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === Logan_ is now known as Brooke === Brooke is now known as k === Mission-Critical is now known as MissionCritical === k is now known as Logan_ [08:48] Hi - I'd like to request a non-virt PPA builder for lp:upstart. The environment of the existing PPA causes test failures that are not recreateable on any other system so we believe the issue may relate to Hardy and/or Xen somehow. See https://code.launchpad.net/~jamesodhunt/+recipe/upstart-daily. [08:49] Ideally, the PPA would be usable by all Canonical Foundation Team members. [09:46] czajkowski: ^^^^ [09:46] is there a policy about non-virt ppa's? and what is the procedure for us to follow? Create ppa -> file question -> wait? [12:02] jodh: Is Hardy/Xen not a supported environment? [12:03] soren: something is 'different' in this environment and that something is causing the upstart tests to fail reliably. [12:03] jodh: Understood. [12:04] jodh: My question remains the same, though :) [12:04] soren: Upstart is very sensitive to kernel versions, etc and 3 people so far have attempted to identify the cause of the problem. So, it would be preferable if we could have a non-vm env unless anyone else can work out what is going on :=) [12:05] soren: if by supported you are referring to upstart, I would say no as it doesn't work :) Certainly, not the new versions of upstart we are attempting to build currently. [12:14] jodh: Ok. === Guest2393 is now known as jrgifford === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === yofel_ is now known as yofel === LordOfTime is now known as TheLordOfTime [14:32] can anybody comment on this request please? [14:34] jodh: am offline sick todaym can you file a lp question please and maybe sinzui might be able to help [14:34] czajkowski: sorry to hear that! will do, ta. [14:36] what does upstart have to do with launchpad? [14:37] sinzui: nothing directly, but see above - we are unable to run the upstart tests successfully in a hardy+xen environment. [14:38] czajkowski: impressed that I can select Cornish and Manx as languages when raising a question! :) [14:39] jodh, you should contact the upstart maintainer team or ask a question to the project: https://answers.launchpad.net/upstart [14:39] sinzui: I am the Upstart maintainer. [14:40] Then you want to talk to Scott who has more experience with it [14:40] sinzui: the problem we have is with the environment that the PPA builders provide - "something" appears to be different to every other environment Upstart successfully builds and runs in. We just don't know what :) [14:40] sinzui: no - Scott is not involved with this. [14:41] hmm [14:41] sinzui: so would you like me to continue raising this launchpad 'question'? We just need a non-virt PPA for upstart builds. [14:42] tsimpson, what's the likelihood the username'll change if i have active PPAs? [14:42] (in regards to what I asked yesterday) [14:42] The people who could help are wgrant, bigjools and cjwatson. I think bigjools is here this week, but in Australia. [14:43] TheLordOfTime: I would say it's fairly likely, but it needs manual intervention from what I understand [14:44] jodh, I would have to defer that to bigjools. We only allow teams with all Canonical staff to use non-virtual builders. [14:44] tsimpson, and i would get their intervention by filing a question against Launchpad? [14:44] I will assign the question to him. [14:44] TheLordOfTime: yes [14:45] sinzui: ok. I'm requesting this for the Canonical Foundations Team, of which I am a member. My manager is aware of this issue and is happy to sponsor the request. [14:45] fab === slank_away is now known as slank [14:52] tsimpson, does my @ubuntu.com email address change/update automatically? [14:52] if a username change happens. :P [14:53] TheLordOfTime: eventually, but you may want to ask that along with your question [15:04] heh, i found an auto-generated user with my name... :P [15:04] because I accidentally mis-signed a maverick changelog xD [15:14] you can merge the accounts === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [15:42] yep === matsubara is now known as matsubara-lunch [16:49] https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-archive/+subscribedbugs times out here [16:50] indeed OOPS-b3bda0265ac1164d949d9f9cf3c7199e [16:50] https://oops.canonical.com/?oopsid=OOPS-b3bda0265ac1164d949d9f9cf3c7199e === matsubara-lunch is now known as matsubara === deryck is now known as deryck[lunch] === deryck[lunch] is now known as deryck === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === glebihan_ is now known as glebihan [20:28] hey, is there any page with information on how long it usually takes for a package to build in a ppa (as in waiting in queue before build starts)? [20:31] nxvl: You can see a current estimate of the queue depth on the RHS of https://launchpad.net/builders [20:36] wgrant: awesome, thanks!