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Blacklistis possible look video in realplayer for linux ?00:29
micahgBlacklist: have you tried mplayer?00:33
Blacklistyes00:51
Blacklistbut i want one player for my transfer music inside my samsung tab 7.000:53
Noskcajis bug 1085825 an actual bug?09:24
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1085825 in lubuntu-artwork (Ubuntu) "lubuntu installer "hard drive, power, internet" check page has colourless ticks" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/108582509:24
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searchingError: Dependency is not satisfiable: libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.31.2)18:15
holsteinsearching: is that something you'd like help with18:21
holstein?18:21
searchingyes18:21
searchingError: Dependency is not satisfiable: libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.31.2)18:21
searchingI have Lubuntu 11.10 and the lxpanel freeze18:21
holsteinyou have the lxpanel freeze?18:22
searchingI can`t install with patch18:22
searchingyes18:22
holsteincant install what?18:22
searchingyes18:22
holsteinsearching: does sudo apt-get update return any errors?18:22
searchingapt-get dist-upgrade may be18:22
searchingno18:22
searchingbut there are 220 Mb18:23
searchinglogin in Lubuntu18:23
searchinglog out18:23
searchinglogin in18:23
searchingand no freezes18:23
searchinglol18:23
holsteinsearching: i would apply the upgrades18:24
holsteinsearching: do you have any ppa's added?18:24
searchingif I try to install the missing file say that depends on moutall18:25
searchingno18:25
holsteinwhat missing file?.. a patch? thats not a missing file18:25
holsteinsearching: have you tried as another user? or blowing out the current panel config of your user?18:25
searchingwhen it said that depends on lib...18:25
holsteinsearching: it?18:25
holsteinsearching: the patch that may or may not fix this issue?18:25
searchingi try install the missing lib18:26
holsteinsearching: try as a differnt user18:26
holsteinsearching: or share the patch you are trying to install18:26
searchingbut it said that is depending on other18:26
holsteinsearching: it? being the patch?18:26
searchingif I try root solve?18:26
searchingto install from root ?18:26
holsteinsearching: i dont know what "it" or "root solve" is or means18:27
searchingthe terminal18:27
searchingin the terminal said that18:27
holsteinsearching: forget the terminal18:27
holsteinsearching: log in as another user and test the panel18:27
searchingok18:28
searchingif freeze?18:28
searchingthere is a patch from a bug lxpanel use cpu 100%18:29
holsteinsearching: then you come here and say "holstein, the panel freezes with the new user account im testing with that you suggested i test with"18:29
searchingapt-get remove lxpanel18:29
searchingstart the lubuntu without lxpanel no freezes18:29
holsteinsearching: sure.. and i dont know what patch you are talking about.. so you'll need to share that patch with me for me to help18:29
holsteinsearching: what im trint to determine is... is it an issue with your user configuration, or the panel18:29
searchingone moment18:30
holsteinif you have a misconfigured .config file for the panel, it wont matter what patches we install18:30
searchinghttp://alpha-unix.de/~iceroot/ubuntu/lxpanel/18:30
searchinghttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxpanel/+bug/90682518:31
ubottuLaunchpad bug 906825 in lxpanel (Ubuntu) "[11.10 - 12.04] lxpanel crashing randomly. High CPU-Load nothing is clickable correctly. Redraw fails" [Undecided,Confirmed]18:31
searchingyes18:31
searchingor to install freesh Lubuntu 12.10?18:32
holsteini would.. but if you'll test as a different user, and let me know that the issue is happening in both user accounts we can go from there18:32
searchingLubuntu 12.04 same frezees more powerfull18:32
holsteinOR, remove the panel .config18:32
holsteinsearching: i have no lubuntu 12.04 freeze18:32
searchingremove .config?18:33
searchingI have one user18:34
holsteinsearching: or test as a different user.. removing your current user configuration from the equation as a troubleshooting step18:34
holsteinsearching: correct18:34
holsteinsearching: im suggesting you make another user account and test for the freeze18:34
searchingok18:34
searchingto remove .config?18:34
holsteinsearching: if it doesnt freeze, then you are not effected by said bug and there is no need to instal the "patch"18:34
holsteinsearching: remove/rename or move the current panel config.. or test as new user18:34
searchingok18:35
searchingno freeze when login18:35
searchinglogout18:35
searchinglogin again18:35
searchingok thanks18:36
searchinglet`s try18:36
holsteinsearching: so the issue is *not* the bug you are referencing18:36
holsteinsearching: the issue is in the config for the panel.. mis-configuration18:36
searchingok18:36
searchingif I remove .config18:37
searchingafter login .config will be created again?18:37
holsteinsearching: i thought you already had, and were saying everything was fine18:37
searchingok I ll do the test18:38
holsteinsearching: im suggesting that you take your current .config out of the equation for troubleshooting purposes.. here are several ways you can do this18:38
holstein1. make a new user account and login18:38
searchingok18:38
holstein2. rename/remove or move the config you have in place for the panel18:38
searchingok18:38
searchingwhen login and type in lxterminal hung for 2 or 3 seconds18:40
holsteinwhy would you type lxterminal?18:40
holsteinis it "hung" or just launching the app??18:40
searchingin the same period after login18:40
holsteinit should take a bit to lanuch the application18:40
holsteinthats not a "freeze"18:40
holsteinthats just the machine launching an application18:41
searchingI can type in lxterminal iptables restore18:41
holstein?18:41
holsteiniptables shouldnt have anything to do with anything here18:41
holsteinwhy are you typing lxterminal?18:41
searchinglook18:42
searchingsudo iptables-restore < /etc/iptables.rules18:42
searchingthan18:42
searchingfree -m18:42
searchingthan18:42
holsteinsure, but that doesnt have anything to do with the GUI freezing.. or launching lxterminal from the terminal.. which im notsure why you are doing18:42
searchingsync ; echo 3 | sudo tee /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches18:43
holsteinsearching: when you say than, you mean then?18:43
searchingwhen I type sys hung18:43
holsteinsearching: hung? for a few seconds?18:43
searchingsame period in 100 logins18:43
searchingyes18:43
holsteinsearching: that can be normal...18:43
searchingI need to minimize the panel18:44
holsteinsearching: there should be a little button that minimizes it18:44
holsteinsearching: the windows. not the panel18:44
searchingminimize and the hung disapear18:44
holsteinthe hung?18:44
searchingtha windows18:44
searchingyes18:44
holsteinsearching: im not following18:44
holsteinsearching: seems like what you are describing is normal18:45
searchingsync ; echo 3 | sudo tee /proc/s| | hung18:45
holsteinsearching: im not sure what iptables has to do with starting an application from the terminal18:45
searchingI can`t type nothing18:45
searchingminimize the window18:45
searchingand the hung goes18:46
holsteinsearching: when i type "man sync" that takes a few seconds18:46
holsteinsearching: i dont think so.. i think the GUI might seem more responsive to you in that case18:46
holsteinsearching: i dont think you have an issue at all. i dont think you are freezing up or hanging18:46
searchingok18:46
holsteini think the computer is launching an application18:46
searchingtop command18:47
searchingxorg root18:47
searchinglxpanel18:47
searchinglxtask18:47
searchingxorg 18mb 3 or 4 % cpu18:48
searchinglxpanel 1,5 % cpu18:48
holsteinsearching: thats what its like on my machine.. xorg18:48
holsteinsearching: im not running lxpanel.. but tint is here..18:48
searchingtint2?18:48
holsteinsearching: tint2 is the panel i am running18:49
bioterrorholstein, svn?18:49
holsteinsearching: i dont think you have an issue with the panel though..18:49
searchingwith configurations18:49
holsteinsearching: i dont think you have an issue at all18:50
searchingholstein give u something to see a screen18:50
searchinghttp://postimage.org/image/nbeqhp82z/18:51
searchingwhen scrolling in firefox18:51
searchingbut I try scrolling now and nothing bag happens18:51
holsteinsearching: i would have realistic expectations for your hardware and the driver support for the graphics card18:52
searchingvideo card intel 64Mb18:52
searchinglol18:52
searchingIntel Corporation 82845G/GL18:53
searching2400Mhz cpu 768 Mb ram18:53
searchingLubuntu 11.10 or 12.04 can run on this machine?18:54
holsteinsearching: i would expect glitches with that hardware. nothing serious..18:54
searchingok thanks18:55
searchingI can use html5 youtube?18:55
searchingruns but first time I think the html5 it is the problem18:56
holsteinsearching: i use the chrome browser in 32bit.. it has its own flash18:56
searchingAdapter DescriptionTungsten Graphics, Inc -- Mesa DRI Intel(R) 845G x86/MMX/SSE218:56
searchingDriver Version1.3 Mesa 7.1118:57
searching1.3 not supporting 2.118:57
searchingI have disable html518:58
searchingand flash18:58
searchingI had chromium and removed18:58
searchingdon`t like that browser18:58
holsteinsearching: i said chrome.. not chromium. but i just suggest it as a troubleshooting step18:58
holsteinsearching: nothing about lxde, lxpanel or lubuntu as causing an issues on your system... hanging or freeezing18:59
searchingonly glitches19:02
searchingIncorrectly written software(bug) lol19:02
searchingok thanks19:03
holsteinsure.. but im suggesting its hardware support19:03
holsteinsearching: i do not have any of those issues you have.. nor have i heard of them.. thats why i lean towards it not being the software19:03
searchingnext year I ll buy a better pc19:03
holsteinsearching: follow those bugs though assuming you can sort out that it is a hardware support issue19:03
holsteinsearching: try other versions of flash.. other browsers.. other graphics drivers19:04
holsteinsearching: try live CD's with other kernels that provide other support19:04
searchinglubuntu 11.04 runs well19:04
holsteinsearching: those issues you are mentioning have little to do with lxde or the panel or iptables or any of that19:04
searchingI tried flashplayer 1019:05
holsteinthis will more likely be support.. kernel modules.. a newer or older or different kernel could support your hardware better19:05
holsteinsearching: try not testing with flash at all19:05
searchinghow can I install older graphics drivers?19:06
holsteinsearching: flash support has nothing to do with LXDE or lubuntu anyways.. though i do feel you can experiment and get something comfortable on your machine that will work well with flash and modern browsing19:06
holsteinsearching: i test with different kernels from live CD's19:06
holsteinsearching: i test with vesa drivers.. i test with chrome browser.. midori.. whatever19:06
searchingluakit19:06
holsteini just test.. if you feel it is an lxde/lubuntu issue, just install xfce and test and see that you have similar performance issues19:07
Moewehi19:07
searchingX.Org X Server 1.10.419:07
searchingI think installing ubuntu 12.10 with openbox19:08
holsteinsearching: yup.. a live CD would be an easy way of testing that.. OR, just dont oot the gui at all19:08
holsteinsearching: i am currently running 12.04 with openbox.. xorg reports the same as your did19:08
holsteinsearching: that is a realistic use of the cpu for xorg19:08
searchingand your pc configuration?19:09
holsteina netbook.. 2gb or ram.. a 1.5 dual core proc with the new-ish nvidia/intel dual graphics19:09
searchingubuntu 12.04.1 server have 5 years support19:09
holsteinsearching: the ubuntu 12.04 in general has 5 years of support.. but the lubntu is not officially an LTS19:10
holsteinsearching: 10.04 had 5 years of support on the server and 3 on the desktop, but 12.04 is just 5 years total AFAIK19:10
searchingif I install ubuntu12.04.1 ubuntu core and than openbox19:10
holsteinsearching: do what you like.. that wont make your hardware any "faster" or better supperted.. i typically test live CD's til something works "best" out of the box, and go for that19:11
searchingok19:11
searchingnext year make this server19:12
searchingI have another pc with 2800 cpu19:12
searchingruns debian+xfce19:12
searchingfine19:12
holsteinsure.. its not that.. its likely the hardware support19:13
holsteinsearching: take the hard drive from the 2800 and put it in there and see how it works19:13
searchingopenbox with tint2 use pcu and video?19:13
searchingcpu19:14
searchingthanks I need to go19:14
holstein?.. im not sure i understaing19:14
holsteinyou need to utilize the CPU and graphics card to run openbox and tint2, yes19:15
holsteinis it "faster" than lxde?.. i didnt think so19:15
searchingopenbox with tint2 use more or less video+cpu than lubuntu19:15
holsteinis it easier than just installing lxde? no19:15
holsteinsearching: i think its similar in resource usage..19:16
searchingdebian + openbox ?19:17
searchingor ubuntu + openbox19:17
holsteini have ubuntu 12.04.. you should use what you want19:17
holsteini would say, you can spend/waste a lot of time (as i did) with a custom setup that is very similar in resource usage to lubuntu out of the box19:18
searchinghad u tryied debian?19:18
holsteinsearching: sure.. ive tried and used plenty of distros19:18
searchingin /etc/xdg/lxsession/Lubuntu/autostart19:19
searching@lxpanel --profile Lubuntu19:20
searchingwithout &19:20
holsteinthis is an ubuntu channel, so i dont think anyone sill say "you should use debian".. i say, you should use what works best, and there might be plenty of reason to prefer debian, but i dont think any valid reasons will be performance19:20
searchingyes19:21
searchingyesterday I found in /etc/lxdm/lxdm.conf19:21
searchingnot lubuntu theme19:22
searchingnot Bear219:22
holsteinyou can find lots of things not lubuntu.. im just not following...19:22
searchingbut here19:23
searchingit is profile Lubuntu or profile Lubuntu&19:23
searchingdefault19:23
searchingI will change to see what it happens19:24
holsteini would just test them... im not sure i know19:24
holsteinif your question is "whats this button do?", i would just press it, unless you are root19:25
searchingvi /etc/xdg/lxsession/Openbox/autostart19:25
searchingin your terminal19:25
holsteinsearching: i dont have lubuntu on this machine to see.. but i would just test the 2 sessions19:25
searching@tint2 --profile Openbox or @tint2 --profile Openbox&19:26
holsteinsearching: i created my autostart19:26
searchingyes19:26
searchingthanks bye19:26
klymerobonsoir22:48
dorohoro#crunchbang23:34
solarcloudHoping to put Lubuntu on my old laptop .. any install guides out there .. Anyone ?23:50
Unit193https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation ?23:51

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