[00:29] is possible look video in realplayer for linux ? [00:33] Blacklist: have you tried mplayer? [00:51] yes [00:53] but i want one player for my transfer music inside my samsung tab 7.0 [09:24] is bug 1085825 an actual bug? [09:24] Launchpad bug 1085825 in lubuntu-artwork (Ubuntu) "lubuntu installer "hard drive, power, internet" check page has colourless ticks" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1085825 === LordOfTime is now known as TheLordOfTime === blacklist is now known as Blacklist === angela-android is now known as nothingspecial [18:15] Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.31.2) [18:21] searching: is that something you'd like help with [18:21] ? [18:21] yes [18:21] Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.31.2) [18:21] I have Lubuntu 11.10 and the lxpanel freeze [18:22] you have the lxpanel freeze? [18:22] I can`t install with patch [18:22] yes [18:22] cant install what? [18:22] yes [18:22] searching: does sudo apt-get update return any errors? [18:22] apt-get dist-upgrade may be [18:22] no [18:23] but there are 220 Mb [18:23] login in Lubuntu [18:23] log out [18:23] login in [18:23] and no freezes [18:23] lol [18:24] searching: i would apply the upgrades [18:24] searching: do you have any ppa's added? [18:25] if I try to install the missing file say that depends on moutall [18:25] no [18:25] what missing file?.. a patch? thats not a missing file [18:25] searching: have you tried as another user? or blowing out the current panel config of your user? [18:25] when it said that depends on lib... [18:25] searching: it? [18:25] searching: the patch that may or may not fix this issue? [18:26] i try install the missing lib [18:26] searching: try as a differnt user [18:26] searching: or share the patch you are trying to install [18:26] but it said that is depending on other [18:26] searching: it? being the patch? [18:26] if I try root solve? [18:26] to install from root ? [18:27] searching: i dont know what "it" or "root solve" is or means [18:27] the terminal [18:27] in the terminal said that [18:27] searching: forget the terminal [18:27] searching: log in as another user and test the panel [18:28] ok [18:28] if freeze? [18:29] there is a patch from a bug lxpanel use cpu 100% [18:29] searching: then you come here and say "holstein, the panel freezes with the new user account im testing with that you suggested i test with" [18:29] apt-get remove lxpanel [18:29] start the lubuntu without lxpanel no freezes [18:29] searching: sure.. and i dont know what patch you are talking about.. so you'll need to share that patch with me for me to help [18:29] searching: what im trint to determine is... is it an issue with your user configuration, or the panel [18:30] one moment [18:30] if you have a misconfigured .config file for the panel, it wont matter what patches we install [18:30] http://alpha-unix.de/~iceroot/ubuntu/lxpanel/ [18:31] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxpanel/+bug/906825 [18:31] Launchpad bug 906825 in lxpanel (Ubuntu) "[11.10 - 12.04] lxpanel crashing randomly. High CPU-Load nothing is clickable correctly. Redraw fails" [Undecided,Confirmed] [18:31] yes [18:32] or to install freesh Lubuntu 12.10? [18:32] i would.. but if you'll test as a different user, and let me know that the issue is happening in both user accounts we can go from there [18:32] Lubuntu 12.04 same frezees more powerfull [18:32] OR, remove the panel .config [18:32] searching: i have no lubuntu 12.04 freeze [18:33] remove .config? [18:34] I have one user [18:34] searching: or test as a different user.. removing your current user configuration from the equation as a troubleshooting step [18:34] searching: correct [18:34] searching: im suggesting you make another user account and test for the freeze [18:34] ok [18:34] to remove .config? [18:34] searching: if it doesnt freeze, then you are not effected by said bug and there is no need to instal the "patch" [18:34] searching: remove/rename or move the current panel config.. or test as new user [18:35] ok [18:35] no freeze when login [18:35] logout [18:35] login again [18:36] ok thanks [18:36] let`s try [18:36] searching: so the issue is *not* the bug you are referencing [18:36] searching: the issue is in the config for the panel.. mis-configuration [18:36] ok [18:37] if I remove .config [18:37] after login .config will be created again? [18:37] searching: i thought you already had, and were saying everything was fine [18:38] ok I ll do the test [18:38] searching: im suggesting that you take your current .config out of the equation for troubleshooting purposes.. here are several ways you can do this [18:38] 1. make a new user account and login [18:38] ok [18:38] 2. rename/remove or move the config you have in place for the panel [18:38] ok [18:40] when login and type in lxterminal hung for 2 or 3 seconds [18:40] why would you type lxterminal? [18:40] is it "hung" or just launching the app?? [18:40] in the same period after login [18:40] it should take a bit to lanuch the application [18:40] thats not a "freeze" [18:41] thats just the machine launching an application [18:41] I can type in lxterminal iptables restore [18:41] ? [18:41] iptables shouldnt have anything to do with anything here [18:41] why are you typing lxterminal? [18:42] look [18:42] sudo iptables-restore < /etc/iptables.rules [18:42] than [18:42] free -m [18:42] than [18:42] sure, but that doesnt have anything to do with the GUI freezing.. or launching lxterminal from the terminal.. which im notsure why you are doing [18:43] sync ; echo 3 | sudo tee /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches [18:43] searching: when you say than, you mean then? [18:43] when I type sys hung [18:43] searching: hung? for a few seconds? [18:43] same period in 100 logins [18:43] yes [18:43] searching: that can be normal... [18:44] I need to minimize the panel [18:44] searching: there should be a little button that minimizes it [18:44] searching: the windows. not the panel [18:44] minimize and the hung disapear [18:44] the hung? [18:44] tha windows [18:44] yes [18:44] searching: im not following [18:45] searching: seems like what you are describing is normal [18:45] sync ; echo 3 | sudo tee /proc/s| | hung [18:45] searching: im not sure what iptables has to do with starting an application from the terminal [18:45] I can`t type nothing [18:45] minimize the window [18:46] and the hung goes [18:46] searching: when i type "man sync" that takes a few seconds [18:46] searching: i dont think so.. i think the GUI might seem more responsive to you in that case [18:46] searching: i dont think you have an issue at all. i dont think you are freezing up or hanging [18:46] ok [18:46] i think the computer is launching an application [18:47] top command [18:47] xorg root [18:47] lxpanel [18:47] lxtask [18:48] xorg 18mb 3 or 4 % cpu [18:48] lxpanel 1,5 % cpu [18:48] searching: thats what its like on my machine.. xorg [18:48] searching: im not running lxpanel.. but tint is here.. [18:48] tint2? [18:49] searching: tint2 is the panel i am running [18:49] holstein, svn? [18:49] searching: i dont think you have an issue with the panel though.. [18:49] with configurations [18:50] searching: i dont think you have an issue at all [18:50] holstein give u something to see a screen [18:51] http://postimage.org/image/nbeqhp82z/ [18:51] when scrolling in firefox [18:51] but I try scrolling now and nothing bag happens [18:52] searching: i would have realistic expectations for your hardware and the driver support for the graphics card [18:52] video card intel 64Mb [18:52] lol [18:53] Intel Corporation 82845G/GL [18:53] 2400Mhz cpu 768 Mb ram [18:54] Lubuntu 11.10 or 12.04 can run on this machine? [18:54] searching: i would expect glitches with that hardware. nothing serious.. [18:55] ok thanks [18:55] I can use html5 youtube? [18:56] runs but first time I think the html5 it is the problem [18:56] searching: i use the chrome browser in 32bit.. it has its own flash [18:56] Adapter DescriptionTungsten Graphics, Inc -- Mesa DRI Intel(R) 845G x86/MMX/SSE2 [18:57] Driver Version1.3 Mesa 7.11 [18:57] 1.3 not supporting 2.1 [18:58] I have disable html5 [18:58] and flash [18:58] I had chromium and removed [18:58] don`t like that browser [18:58] searching: i said chrome.. not chromium. but i just suggest it as a troubleshooting step [18:59] searching: nothing about lxde, lxpanel or lubuntu as causing an issues on your system... hanging or freeezing [19:02] only glitches [19:02] Incorrectly written software(bug) lol [19:03] ok thanks [19:03] sure.. but im suggesting its hardware support [19:03] searching: i do not have any of those issues you have.. nor have i heard of them.. thats why i lean towards it not being the software [19:03] next year I ll buy a better pc [19:03] searching: follow those bugs though assuming you can sort out that it is a hardware support issue [19:04] searching: try other versions of flash.. other browsers.. other graphics drivers [19:04] searching: try live CD's with other kernels that provide other support [19:04] lubuntu 11.04 runs well [19:04] searching: those issues you are mentioning have little to do with lxde or the panel or iptables or any of that [19:05] I tried flashplayer 10 [19:05] this will more likely be support.. kernel modules.. a newer or older or different kernel could support your hardware better [19:05] searching: try not testing with flash at all [19:06] how can I install older graphics drivers? [19:06] searching: flash support has nothing to do with LXDE or lubuntu anyways.. though i do feel you can experiment and get something comfortable on your machine that will work well with flash and modern browsing [19:06] searching: i test with different kernels from live CD's [19:06] searching: i test with vesa drivers.. i test with chrome browser.. midori.. whatever [19:06] luakit [19:07] i just test.. if you feel it is an lxde/lubuntu issue, just install xfce and test and see that you have similar performance issues [19:07] hi [19:07] X.Org X Server 1.10.4 [19:08] I think installing ubuntu 12.10 with openbox [19:08] searching: yup.. a live CD would be an easy way of testing that.. OR, just dont oot the gui at all [19:08] searching: i am currently running 12.04 with openbox.. xorg reports the same as your did [19:08] searching: that is a realistic use of the cpu for xorg [19:09] and your pc configuration? [19:09] a netbook.. 2gb or ram.. a 1.5 dual core proc with the new-ish nvidia/intel dual graphics [19:09] ubuntu 12.04.1 server have 5 years support [19:10] searching: the ubuntu 12.04 in general has 5 years of support.. but the lubntu is not officially an LTS [19:10] searching: 10.04 had 5 years of support on the server and 3 on the desktop, but 12.04 is just 5 years total AFAIK [19:10] if I install ubuntu12.04.1 ubuntu core and than openbox [19:11] searching: do what you like.. that wont make your hardware any "faster" or better supperted.. i typically test live CD's til something works "best" out of the box, and go for that [19:11] ok [19:12] next year make this server [19:12] I have another pc with 2800 cpu [19:12] runs debian+xfce [19:12] fine [19:13] sure.. its not that.. its likely the hardware support [19:13] searching: take the hard drive from the 2800 and put it in there and see how it works [19:13] openbox with tint2 use pcu and video? [19:14] cpu [19:14] thanks I need to go [19:14] ?.. im not sure i understaing [19:15] you need to utilize the CPU and graphics card to run openbox and tint2, yes [19:15] is it "faster" than lxde?.. i didnt think so [19:15] openbox with tint2 use more or less video+cpu than lubuntu [19:15] is it easier than just installing lxde? no [19:16] searching: i think its similar in resource usage.. [19:17] debian + openbox ? [19:17] or ubuntu + openbox [19:17] i have ubuntu 12.04.. you should use what you want [19:18] i would say, you can spend/waste a lot of time (as i did) with a custom setup that is very similar in resource usage to lubuntu out of the box [19:18] had u tryied debian? [19:18] searching: sure.. ive tried and used plenty of distros [19:19] in /etc/xdg/lxsession/Lubuntu/autostart [19:20] @lxpanel --profile Lubuntu [19:20] without & [19:20] this is an ubuntu channel, so i dont think anyone sill say "you should use debian".. i say, you should use what works best, and there might be plenty of reason to prefer debian, but i dont think any valid reasons will be performance [19:21] yes [19:21] yesterday I found in /etc/lxdm/lxdm.conf [19:22] not lubuntu theme [19:22] not Bear2 [19:22] you can find lots of things not lubuntu.. im just not following... [19:23] but here [19:23] it is profile Lubuntu or profile Lubuntu& [19:23] default [19:24] I will change to see what it happens [19:24] i would just test them... im not sure i know [19:25] if your question is "whats this button do?", i would just press it, unless you are root [19:25] vi /etc/xdg/lxsession/Openbox/autostart [19:25] in your terminal [19:25] searching: i dont have lubuntu on this machine to see.. but i would just test the 2 sessions [19:26] @tint2 --profile Openbox or @tint2 --profile Openbox& [19:26] searching: i created my autostart [19:26] yes [19:26] thanks bye [22:48] bonsoir [23:34] #crunchbang [23:50] Hoping to put Lubuntu on my old laptop .. any install guides out there .. Anyone ? [23:51] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation ?