[00:29] <Blacklist> is possible look video in realplayer for linux ?
[00:33] <micahg> Blacklist: have you tried mplayer?
[00:51] <Blacklist> yes
[00:53] <Blacklist> but i want one player for my transfer music inside my samsung tab 7.0
[09:24] <Noskcaj> is bug 1085825 an actual bug?
[18:15] <searching> Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.31.2)
[18:21] <holstein> searching: is that something you'd like help with
[18:21] <holstein> ?
[18:21] <searching> yes
[18:21] <searching> Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.31.2)
[18:21] <searching> I have Lubuntu 11.10 and the lxpanel freeze
[18:22] <holstein> you have the lxpanel freeze?
[18:22] <searching> I can`t install with patch
[18:22] <searching> yes
[18:22] <holstein> cant install what?
[18:22] <searching> yes
[18:22] <holstein> searching: does sudo apt-get update return any errors?
[18:22] <searching> apt-get dist-upgrade may be
[18:22] <searching> no
[18:23] <searching> but there are 220 Mb
[18:23] <searching> login in Lubuntu
[18:23] <searching> log out
[18:23] <searching> login in
[18:23] <searching> and no freezes
[18:23] <searching> lol
[18:24] <holstein> searching: i would apply the upgrades
[18:24] <holstein> searching: do you have any ppa's added?
[18:25] <searching> if I try to install the missing file say that depends on moutall
[18:25] <searching> no
[18:25] <holstein> what missing file?.. a patch? thats not a missing file
[18:25] <holstein> searching: have you tried as another user? or blowing out the current panel config of your user?
[18:25] <searching> when it said that depends on lib...
[18:25] <holstein> searching: it?
[18:25] <holstein> searching: the patch that may or may not fix this issue?
[18:26] <searching> i try install the missing lib
[18:26] <holstein> searching: try as a differnt user
[18:26] <holstein> searching: or share the patch you are trying to install
[18:26] <searching> but it said that is depending on other
[18:26] <holstein> searching: it? being the patch?
[18:26] <searching> if I try root solve?
[18:26] <searching> to install from root ?
[18:27] <holstein> searching: i dont know what "it" or "root solve" is or means
[18:27] <searching> the terminal
[18:27] <searching> in the terminal said that
[18:27] <holstein> searching: forget the terminal
[18:27] <holstein> searching: log in as another user and test the panel
[18:28] <searching> ok
[18:28] <searching> if freeze?
[18:29] <searching> there is a patch from a bug lxpanel use cpu 100%
[18:29] <holstein> searching: then you come here and say "holstein, the panel freezes with the new user account im testing with that you suggested i test with"
[18:29] <searching> apt-get remove lxpanel
[18:29] <searching> start the lubuntu without lxpanel no freezes
[18:29] <holstein> searching: sure.. and i dont know what patch you are talking about.. so you'll need to share that patch with me for me to help
[18:29] <holstein> searching: what im trint to determine is... is it an issue with your user configuration, or the panel
[18:30] <searching> one moment
[18:30] <holstein> if you have a misconfigured .config file for the panel, it wont matter what patches we install
[18:30] <searching> http://alpha-unix.de/~iceroot/ubuntu/lxpanel/
[18:31] <searching> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxpanel/+bug/906825
[18:31] <searching> yes
[18:32] <searching> or to install freesh Lubuntu 12.10?
[18:32] <holstein> i would.. but if you'll test as a different user, and let me know that the issue is happening in both user accounts we can go from there
[18:32] <searching> Lubuntu 12.04 same frezees more powerfull
[18:32] <holstein> OR, remove the panel .config
[18:32] <holstein> searching: i have no lubuntu 12.04 freeze
[18:33] <searching> remove .config?
[18:34] <searching> I have one user
[18:34] <holstein> searching: or test as a different user.. removing your current user configuration from the equation as a troubleshooting step
[18:34] <holstein> searching: correct
[18:34] <holstein> searching: im suggesting you make another user account and test for the freeze
[18:34] <searching> ok
[18:34] <searching> to remove .config?
[18:34] <holstein> searching: if it doesnt freeze, then you are not effected by said bug and there is no need to instal the "patch"
[18:34] <holstein> searching: remove/rename or move the current panel config.. or test as new user
[18:35] <searching> ok
[18:35] <searching> no freeze when login
[18:35] <searching> logout
[18:35] <searching> login again
[18:36] <searching> ok thanks
[18:36] <searching> let`s try
[18:36] <holstein> searching: so the issue is *not* the bug you are referencing
[18:36] <holstein> searching: the issue is in the config for the panel.. mis-configuration
[18:36] <searching> ok
[18:37] <searching> if I remove .config
[18:37] <searching> after login .config will be created again?
[18:37] <holstein> searching: i thought you already had, and were saying everything was fine
[18:38] <searching> ok I ll do the test
[18:38] <holstein> searching: im suggesting that you take your current .config out of the equation for troubleshooting purposes.. here are several ways you can do this
[18:38] <holstein> 1. make a new user account and login
[18:38] <searching> ok
[18:38] <holstein> 2. rename/remove or move the config you have in place for the panel
[18:38] <searching> ok
[18:40] <searching> when login and type in lxterminal hung for 2 or 3 seconds
[18:40] <holstein> why would you type lxterminal?
[18:40] <holstein> is it "hung" or just launching the app??
[18:40] <searching> in the same period after login
[18:40] <holstein> it should take a bit to lanuch the application
[18:40] <holstein> thats not a "freeze"
[18:41] <holstein> thats just the machine launching an application
[18:41] <searching> I can type in lxterminal iptables restore
[18:41] <holstein> ?
[18:41] <holstein> iptables shouldnt have anything to do with anything here
[18:41] <holstein> why are you typing lxterminal?
[18:42] <searching> look
[18:42] <searching> sudo iptables-restore < /etc/iptables.rules
[18:42] <searching> than
[18:42] <searching> free -m
[18:42] <searching> than
[18:42] <holstein> sure, but that doesnt have anything to do with the GUI freezing.. or launching lxterminal from the terminal.. which im notsure why you are doing
[18:43] <searching> sync ; echo 3 | sudo tee /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches
[18:43] <holstein> searching: when you say than, you mean then?
[18:43] <searching> when I type sys hung
[18:43] <holstein> searching: hung? for a few seconds?
[18:43] <searching> same period in 100 logins
[18:43] <searching> yes
[18:43] <holstein> searching: that can be normal...
[18:44] <searching> I need to minimize the panel
[18:44] <holstein> searching: there should be a little button that minimizes it
[18:44] <holstein> searching: the windows. not the panel
[18:44] <searching> minimize and the hung disapear
[18:44] <holstein> the hung?
[18:44] <searching> tha windows
[18:44] <searching> yes
[18:44] <holstein> searching: im not following
[18:45] <holstein> searching: seems like what you are describing is normal
[18:45] <searching> sync ; echo 3 | sudo tee /proc/s| | hung
[18:45] <holstein> searching: im not sure what iptables has to do with starting an application from the terminal
[18:45] <searching> I can`t type nothing
[18:45] <searching> minimize the window
[18:46] <searching> and the hung goes
[18:46] <holstein> searching: when i type "man sync" that takes a few seconds
[18:46] <holstein> searching: i dont think so.. i think the GUI might seem more responsive to you in that case
[18:46] <holstein> searching: i dont think you have an issue at all. i dont think you are freezing up or hanging
[18:46] <searching> ok
[18:46] <holstein> i think the computer is launching an application
[18:47] <searching> top command
[18:47] <searching> xorg root
[18:47] <searching> lxpanel
[18:47] <searching> lxtask
[18:48] <searching> xorg 18mb 3 or 4 % cpu
[18:48] <searching> lxpanel 1,5 % cpu
[18:48] <holstein> searching: thats what its like on my machine.. xorg
[18:48] <holstein> searching: im not running lxpanel.. but tint is here..
[18:48] <searching> tint2?
[18:49] <holstein> searching: tint2 is the panel i am running
[18:49] <bioterror> holstein, svn?
[18:49] <holstein> searching: i dont think you have an issue with the panel though..
[18:49] <searching> with configurations
[18:50] <holstein> searching: i dont think you have an issue at all
[18:50] <searching> holstein give u something to see a screen
[18:51] <searching> http://postimage.org/image/nbeqhp82z/
[18:51] <searching> when scrolling in firefox
[18:51] <searching> but I try scrolling now and nothing bag happens
[18:52] <holstein> searching: i would have realistic expectations for your hardware and the driver support for the graphics card
[18:52] <searching> video card intel 64Mb
[18:52] <searching> lol
[18:53] <searching> Intel Corporation 82845G/GL
[18:53] <searching> 2400Mhz cpu 768 Mb ram
[18:54] <searching> Lubuntu 11.10 or 12.04 can run on this machine?
[18:54] <holstein> searching: i would expect glitches with that hardware. nothing serious..
[18:55] <searching> ok thanks
[18:55] <searching> I can use html5 youtube?
[18:56] <searching> runs but first time I think the html5 it is the problem
[18:56] <holstein> searching: i use the chrome browser in 32bit.. it has its own flash
[18:56] <searching> Adapter DescriptionTungsten Graphics, Inc -- Mesa DRI Intel(R) 845G x86/MMX/SSE2
[18:57] <searching> Driver Version1.3 Mesa 7.11
[18:57] <searching> 1.3 not supporting 2.1
[18:58] <searching> I have disable html5
[18:58] <searching> and flash
[18:58] <searching> I had chromium and removed
[18:58] <searching> don`t like that browser
[18:58] <holstein> searching: i said chrome.. not chromium. but i just suggest it as a troubleshooting step
[18:59] <holstein> searching: nothing about lxde, lxpanel or lubuntu as causing an issues on your system... hanging or freeezing
[19:02] <searching> only glitches
[19:02] <searching> Incorrectly written software(bug) lol
[19:03] <searching> ok thanks
[19:03] <holstein> sure.. but im suggesting its hardware support
[19:03] <holstein> searching: i do not have any of those issues you have.. nor have i heard of them.. thats why i lean towards it not being the software
[19:03] <searching> next year I ll buy a better pc
[19:03] <holstein> searching: follow those bugs though assuming you can sort out that it is a hardware support issue
[19:04] <holstein> searching: try other versions of flash.. other browsers.. other graphics drivers
[19:04] <holstein> searching: try live CD's with other kernels that provide other support
[19:04] <searching> lubuntu 11.04 runs well
[19:04] <holstein> searching: those issues you are mentioning have little to do with lxde or the panel or iptables or any of that
[19:05] <searching> I tried flashplayer 10
[19:05] <holstein> this will more likely be support.. kernel modules.. a newer or older or different kernel could support your hardware better
[19:05] <holstein> searching: try not testing with flash at all
[19:06] <searching> how can I install older graphics drivers?
[19:06] <holstein> searching: flash support has nothing to do with LXDE or lubuntu anyways.. though i do feel you can experiment and get something comfortable on your machine that will work well with flash and modern browsing
[19:06] <holstein> searching: i test with different kernels from live CD's
[19:06] <holstein> searching: i test with vesa drivers.. i test with chrome browser.. midori.. whatever
[19:06] <searching> luakit
[19:07] <holstein> i just test.. if you feel it is an lxde/lubuntu issue, just install xfce and test and see that you have similar performance issues
[19:07] <Moewe> hi
[19:07] <searching> X.Org X Server 1.10.4
[19:08] <searching> I think installing ubuntu 12.10 with openbox
[19:08] <holstein> searching: yup.. a live CD would be an easy way of testing that.. OR, just dont oot the gui at all
[19:08] <holstein> searching: i am currently running 12.04 with openbox.. xorg reports the same as your did
[19:08] <holstein> searching: that is a realistic use of the cpu for xorg
[19:09] <searching> and your pc configuration?
[19:09] <holstein> a netbook.. 2gb or ram.. a 1.5 dual core proc with the new-ish nvidia/intel dual graphics
[19:09] <searching> ubuntu 12.04.1 server have 5 years support
[19:10] <holstein> searching: the ubuntu 12.04 in general has 5 years of support.. but the lubntu is not officially an LTS
[19:10] <holstein> searching: 10.04 had 5 years of support on the server and 3 on the desktop, but 12.04 is just 5 years total AFAIK
[19:10] <searching> if I install ubuntu12.04.1 ubuntu core and than openbox
[19:11] <holstein> searching: do what you like.. that wont make your hardware any "faster" or better supperted.. i typically test live CD's til something works "best" out of the box, and go for that
[19:11] <searching> ok
[19:12] <searching> next year make this server
[19:12] <searching> I have another pc with 2800 cpu
[19:12] <searching> runs debian+xfce
[19:12] <searching> fine
[19:13] <holstein> sure.. its not that.. its likely the hardware support
[19:13] <holstein> searching: take the hard drive from the 2800 and put it in there and see how it works
[19:13] <searching> openbox with tint2 use pcu and video?
[19:14] <searching> cpu
[19:14] <searching> thanks I need to go
[19:14] <holstein> ?.. im not sure i understaing
[19:15] <holstein> you need to utilize the CPU and graphics card to run openbox and tint2, yes
[19:15] <holstein> is it "faster" than lxde?.. i didnt think so
[19:15] <searching> openbox with tint2 use more or less video+cpu than lubuntu
[19:15] <holstein> is it easier than just installing lxde? no
[19:16] <holstein> searching: i think its similar in resource usage..
[19:17] <searching> debian + openbox ?
[19:17] <searching> or ubuntu + openbox
[19:17] <holstein> i have ubuntu 12.04.. you should use what you want
[19:18] <holstein> i would say, you can spend/waste a lot of time (as i did) with a custom setup that is very similar in resource usage to lubuntu out of the box
[19:18] <searching> had u tryied debian?
[19:18] <holstein> searching: sure.. ive tried and used plenty of distros
[19:19] <searching> in /etc/xdg/lxsession/Lubuntu/autostart
[19:20] <searching> @lxpanel --profile Lubuntu
[19:20] <searching> without &
[19:20] <holstein> this is an ubuntu channel, so i dont think anyone sill say "you should use debian".. i say, you should use what works best, and there might be plenty of reason to prefer debian, but i dont think any valid reasons will be performance
[19:21] <searching> yes
[19:21] <searching> yesterday I found in /etc/lxdm/lxdm.conf
[19:22] <searching> not lubuntu theme
[19:22] <searching> not Bear2
[19:22] <holstein> you can find lots of things not lubuntu.. im just not following...
[19:23] <searching> but here
[19:23] <searching> it is profile Lubuntu or profile Lubuntu&
[19:23] <searching> default
[19:24] <searching> I will change to see what it happens
[19:24] <holstein> i would just test them... im not sure i know
[19:25] <holstein> if your question is "whats this button do?", i would just press it, unless you are root
[19:25] <searching> vi /etc/xdg/lxsession/Openbox/autostart
[19:25] <searching> in your terminal
[19:25] <holstein> searching: i dont have lubuntu on this machine to see.. but i would just test the 2 sessions
[19:26] <searching> @tint2 --profile Openbox or @tint2 --profile Openbox&
[19:26] <holstein> searching: i created my autostart
[19:26] <searching> yes
[19:26] <searching> thanks bye
[22:48] <klymero> bonsoir
[23:34] <dorohoro> #crunchbang
[23:50] <solarcloud> Hoping to put Lubuntu on my old laptop .. any install guides out there .. Anyone ?
[23:51] <Unit193> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation ?