| === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha | ||
| === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk | ||
| mjrosenb | so I'm trying to update my chromebook to 12.10 | 01:54 |
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| mjrosenb | and it is failing due to a checksum mismatch | 01:55 |
| mjrosenb | W:Failed to fetch | 01:55 |
| mjrosenb | gzip:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/ports.ubuntu.com_ubuntu-ports_dists_quantal_main_binary-armhf_Packages | 01:55 |
| persia | Try again now (it's been 5 minutes). That usually means a mirror goes wonky, which is usually solved shortly for the mirrors identified by "ports.ubuntu.com" | 02:02 |
| mjrosenb | I tried at like noon, and was getting it then | 02:11 |
| * mjrosenb tries again | 02:11 | |
| mjrosenb | nopepe, still there | 02:12 |
| mjrosenb | s/pe// | 02:13 |
| mjrosenb | any other suggestions? | 02:41 |
| persia | Maybe delete everything under /var/lib/apt/lists/ and run `apt-get update` again? This should redownload everything, but it won't fix it if it's an issue with the checksums on the server. | 03:07 |
| infinity | It won't be a mirror issue, that file has been static for months. | 03:16 |
| infinity | Unless it's actually corrupt on the mirror he's hitting. | 03:16 |
| infinity | Which is pretty unlikely for ports. | 03:17 |
| infinity | Nope, looks fine from here. | 03:18 |
| infinity | mjrosenb: Try persia's "delete the world and try harder" approach. | 03:18 |
| * mjrosenb is running apt-get update as i type | 03:21 | |
| === heathkid|2 is now known as heathkid | ||
| mjrosenb | well, that is strange | 03:29 |
| mjrosenb | it says there is no new release | 03:29 |
| mjrosenb | but dist-upgrade wants to upgrade 1,223 packages | 03:30 |
| mjrosenb | and /etc/issue now says that I am running 12.10 | 03:30 |
| TheMuso | Are the nexus7 raring images working yet? | 03:30 |
| persia | apt believes you to be running 12.10 with outdated packages (based on the content of /etc/apt/sources.list) | 03:31 |
| mjrosenb | persia: sounds right. | 03:31 |
| * mjrosenb wonders if this is going to attempt to install a new kernel | 03:31 | |
| mjrosenb | and how that is going to go if it does | 03:31 |
| persia | It will only do so if you have a kernel package installed for which there is a newer package available in your currently configured archives. | 03:32 |
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| mjrosenb | I never installed a kernel package | 03:37 |
| mjrosenb | although I should still get perf on here at some point or other. | 03:38 |
| mjrosenb | and iirc, the kernel that this is running was just copied from chromium so we'd get nice driver support out of the box | 03:40 |
| mjrosenb | great, now plymouth is throwing an assertion | 04:45 |
| mjrosenb | hrmm | 04:45 |
| mjrosenb | actually, I have absolutely no clue how to recover this system | 04:45 |
| [mbm] | mjrosenb: nexus7? | 04:52 |
| [mbm] | there was an open bug about that one; the console=none in the kernel commandline was causing issues, and plymouth had been disabled until it could be fixed | 04:53 |
| mjrosenb | [mbm]: no, chromebook. | 05:01 |
| mjrosenb | although I would not be surpred if this is the same assertion that the nexus 7 is throwing | 05:38 |
| mjrosenb | so, I'd like to do something fancy like init=/bin/bash | 06:16 |
| mjrosenb | but I don't actually know how to touch the kernel arguments on here. | 06:16 |
| dholbach | good morning | 08:01 |
| mjrosenb | morning. | 08:05 |
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| ppisati | http://lwn.net/Articles/526920/ | 09:31 |
| ppisati | Support for Tegra 2D hardware | 09:31 |
| ogra_ | ppisati, heh, you just missed the person intrested in it most :) | 09:32 |
| ogra_ | (though igues marvin24 has seen it already) | 09:33 |
| ogra_ | marvin24, <ppisati> http://lwn.net/Articles/526920/ | 09:33 |
| ogra_ | ppisati, sadly tegradrm doesnt work with the binary driver yet | 09:34 |
| ogra_ | (afaik) | 09:34 |
| marvin24 | ogra_, ppisati: yeah, this will take a *long* time | 09:35 |
| ogra_ | right, and thanks to our new desktop policy we are bound to the GLES drivers | 09:35 |
| ogra_ | so even if it would land tomorrow, we couldnt use it | 09:35 |
| lilstevie | cause of unity | 09:36 |
| ogra_ | well, compiz, but yeah | 09:36 |
| marvin24 | what abount software gles? | 09:36 |
| marvin24 | *about* | 09:36 |
| ogra_ | i didnt get it working on the nexus yet | 09:36 |
| ogra_ | i have it working on the chromebook and dont know why :) | 09:36 |
| mjrosenb | does anyone know how to change the parameters that the kernel gets on a chromebook? | 09:37 |
| marvin24 | ogra_: strange ... | 09:37 |
| ogra_ | mjrosenb, probably hrw | 09:37 |
| hrw | mjrosenb: you have to sign kernel and at that stage you can change cmdline | 09:37 |
| hrw | easy | 09:37 |
| hrw | mjrosenb: > | 09:38 |
| hrw | > | 09:38 |
| hrw | > | 09:38 |
| hrw | ops | 09:38 |
| hrw | mjrosenb: https://plus.google.com/u/0/109993695638569781190/posts/34PYU79eUqP | 09:38 |
| ogra_ | so just get a pen then :P | 09:38 |
| hrw | ogra_: any progres on teaching plymouth to check proper console=? | 09:39 |
| ogra_ | hrw, it isnt the console parameter at all :) | 09:39 |
| hrw | or whatever | 09:40 |
| ogra_ | hrw, it is a missing piece of console-setup | 09:40 |
| hrw | ogra_: tell me more | 09:40 |
| ogra_ | if you build your initrd with FRAMEBUFFER=1 set in the initramfs.conf, plymouth works fine | 09:40 |
| hrw | I do not have initrd | 09:41 |
| ogra_ | i'm working on tracking it down to a specific function in console-setup, once i have that well just add it to the plymouth upstart job and it should work | 09:41 |
| ogra_ | we'll | 09:41 |
| mjrosenb | hrw: the issue is I cannot currently boot into ubuntu | 09:41 |
| ogra_ | hrw, right, initrd doesnt matter its just that you can fix it by having an initrd that runs console-setup | 09:42 |
| hrw | mjrosenb: tell me more? | 09:42 |
| ogra_ | which means running that console-setup bit from an upstart job before plymouth starts should work as well | 09:42 |
| mjrosenb | hrw: I attempted to upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10 with the standard do-dist-upgrade, and now it plymouth just thros an assertion, and I cannot continue booting. | 09:43 |
| hrw | mjrosenb: boot chromium, mount ubuntu, cd ubuntu/etc/init/;rm plymouth*;reboot | 09:43 |
| hrw | works just fine | 09:43 |
| ogra_ | no, the biuts will re-appear on next update | 09:44 |
| hrw | or s/rm plymouth*/for f in plymouth*;do echo manual > ${f}.override/ | 09:44 |
| hrw | or s/rm plymouth*/for f in plymouth*;do echo manual > ${f}.override;done/ | 09:44 |
| ogra_ | drop the rm's | 09:44 |
| mjrosenb | iirc, I can boot into chromium by just turning on the validation again? | 09:44 |
| ogra_ | yeah | 09:44 |
| ogra_ | the above looks fine | 09:45 |
| hrw | mjrosenb: better is keep chromium kernel in KERN-A and boot ubuntu with KERN-B or KERN-C | 09:45 |
| mjrosenb | *nod* | 09:45 |
| hrw | so all you need is change of partition priorities | 09:45 |
| hrw | works just fine | 09:46 |
| mjrosenb | hrw: so I didn't touch the kernels, I just ran do-dist-upgrade; apt-get dist-upgrade | 09:46 |
| mjrosenb | err, maybe it wasn't do-dist-upgrade | 09:46 |
| mjrosenb | do-release-upgrade? | 09:46 |
| hrw | mjrosenb: do update to 13.04 | 09:46 |
| mjrosenb | I tab-completed it | 09:46 |
| ogra_ | do-release-upgrade is the right tool | 09:46 |
| mjrosenb | hrw: is support better in 13.04? | 09:46 |
| ogra_ | yes | 09:47 |
| hrw | mjrosenb: s/better// | 09:47 |
| ogra_ | hrw, up0loads packages and fixes all the time :) | 09:47 |
| hrw | 12.10 does not know anything about chromebook | 09:47 |
| mjrosenb | hrw: does 12.04? | 09:47 |
| hrw | you are joking or not? | 09:47 |
| ogra_ | the 12.04 that you can install with that weird script that downloads 50 tarballs will work | 09:48 |
| ogra_ | (since it is hacked up) | 09:48 |
| mjrosenb | yeah, that is how I installed it to begin with. | 09:49 |
| hrw | I used python to calculate offsets and did setup with linaro image | 09:50 |
| hrw | that's why my chromebook may lack some packages | 09:50 |
| hrw | I am waiting for 32GB microsd card to arrive so will have pristine ubuntu install on it | 09:53 |
| hrw | unless courier would bring me another chromebook... | 09:53 |
| hrw | but this will rather not happen | 09:54 |
| mjrosenb | is there a microsd card reader other than the full-sized sdcard on the side? | 09:55 |
| hrw | there are small usb readers | 09:57 |
| hrw | which sticks out for 3mm from socket | 09:57 |
| mjrosenb | ahh. I've seen those | 09:58 |
| mjrosenb | this one that holds the microsd card so it will eject *into* the computer if you could theoretically eject it when it was inside the computer? | 09:58 |
| hrw | no idea - order not arrived yet | 10:00 |
| mjrosenb | this mount command is taking quite a while to complete... | 10:02 |
| mjrosenb | aaand, ^C does not do anything on this terminal :/ | 10:04 |
| mjrosenb | ok, problem solved | 10:13 |
| mjrosenb | i assume I need to re-run |sudo cgpt add -i 6 -P 5 -S 1 /dev/mmcblk0| in order to get this machine to want to boot into ubuntu again? | 10:13 |
| hrw | -T5 | 10:20 |
| hrw | or -T1 at least | 10:21 |
| mjrosenb | ok, this time, it finished the kernel initializations, then "mountall: Disconnected from Plymouth" and is now hung there | 10:21 |
| mjrosenb | what does that do? | 10:21 |
| hrw | sets 'tries' field | 10:22 |
| mjrosenb | oh, so it'll boot into ubuntu N times, then go back to cros? | 10:22 |
| hrw | no, thats matter of priority field | 10:23 |
| hrw | you have 3 fields: tries, priority, successful | 10:24 |
| hrw | priority == which kernel boot first and which if first one fail | 10:24 |
| hrw | successful = this kernel boots at all | 10:24 |
| ogra-cb | i think i'll go with something like the second one here http://tbreak.com/tech/2012/06/quick-look-apacer-32gb-usb-3-0-memory-sticks/ | 10:53 |
| ogra-cb | the values arent stellar but still far beyond USB 2.0 | 10:54 |
| ogra-cb | (for the chromebook rootfs) | 10:54 |
| hrw | ogra-cb: nice :) | 10:56 |
| ogra-cb | i havent found a place to buy it yet though | 10:57 |
| hrw | http://www.shopmania.co.uk/external-memory/p-apacer-ah152-super-mini-usb-drives-16gb-48812413 but 16GB only | 10:57 |
| ogra-cb | it is small enough to not turn into a lever that opens the netbook case if you press it :) | 10:57 |
| hrw | I have to connect my usb3.0 harddrive and check speed | 10:58 |
| ogra-cb | you should see between 80 and 120M/s | 10:59 |
| ogra-cb | i personally think even 60 are awesome alreadfy though :) | 10:59 |
| RaYmAn | ogra-cb: it's just a pity you can't use usb 3.0 to boot kernel from :( | 11:00 |
| ogra-cb | i dont care | 11:00 |
| ogra-cb | as long as my rootfs runs off a fast device | 11:01 |
| ogra-cb | and as long as i *can* boot a kernel somehow :) | 11:01 |
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| hrw | RaYmAn: you put kernel in KERN-C on internal and boot rootfs on usb3 - fine | 11:31 |
| RaYmAn | sure | 11:36 |
| hrw | internal emmc has 59 MB/s average read in gnome-disks bench | 11:39 |
| hrw | ech. gnome-disks fails to bench my usb3 drive | 11:44 |
| hrw | on chromebook | 11:44 |
| ogra-cb | file a bug :) | 11:45 |
| hrw | hdparm has 92MB/s | 11:45 |
| hrw | Bug #1081019 already exists | 11:50 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1081019 in gnome-disk-utility (Ubuntu) "Benchmark for Harddisk fail" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1081019 | 11:50 |
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| hrw | same hdd connected to desktop has 147 MB/s average | 11:51 |
| hrw | I miss "maximize to whole available desktop space" action in WM | 11:56 |
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| ogra_ | which WM ? | 12:04 |
| hrw | kwin | 12:08 |
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| fmoreau | hi. Does anybody know why ext4 fs is prefered over a "flash" fs such as ubifs ? | 14:46 |
| suihkulokki | fmoreau: for a flash file system, such as ubifs, you need a raw interface to the flash. most device these days instead have a MMC interface where you can only put block filesystems, such as ext4 | 14:49 |
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| sfeole | o/ | 16:18 |
| ogra_ | yippie ! | 16:39 |
| ogra_ | slideshow is back | 16:39 |
| ogra_ | xnox, hmm, so that onboard behavior is really bad in oem-config since the switch to compiz | 16:41 |
| ogra_ | i actually have to reboot to make typing work | 16:41 |
| ogra_ | plars, janimo, so i dont get why you need adbd instead of just using ssh over usbnet | 16:43 |
| janimo | ogra_, no idea if usbnet works I never used it | 16:44 |
| ogra_ | it does | 16:44 |
| ogra_ | pretty agressively even :) | 16:44 |
| janimo | ogra_, if the current kernel needs some patch or config options enabled feel free to ping the kernel team :) | 16:44 |
| janimo | if not then a wiki entry would be nice | 16:45 |
| * ogra_ accidentially built it in into one of his test kernels ... made my desktop NM go crazy :) | 16:45 | |
| janimo | I never used this feature | 16:45 |
| janimo | it should not interfere with normal work though and not be buggy :) | 16:45 |
| plars | ogra_: same, never tried usbnet. If you have some pointers I'd like to hear more about it though. adb is nice from the perspective of being a similar tool for what a lot of people would have normally used there, and has some neat features, but I'm not really stuck on it | 16:45 |
| ogra_ | it doesnt | 16:45 |
| ogra_ | but NM shows you it tries to auto establish the network (it only shows you a wired connection) | 16:46 |
| plars | ogra_: will usbnet have issues since the n7 might be on a server, potentially with several other n7's attached doing the same thing? | 16:46 |
| ogra_ | it just took me quite aq while to find out that this behavior comes from the attched nexus (which didnt have the NIC up ) | 16:46 |
| ogra_ | plars, usbnet just behaves like any other network | 16:47 |
| plars | ogra_: So I'd need to be able to bring up those connections and distinguish between them | 16:47 |
| ogra_ | just that your device is called usb0 and that the wire is actually a usb connection to the next machine | 16:47 |
| plars | ogra_, janimo: so it sounds like we just need a kernel with it turned on, and give it a try | 16:48 |
| ogra_ | right | 16:48 |
| janimo | ogra_, and it shows up depending on whether you connect the nexus to a laptop or not? | 16:48 |
| ogra_ | i simply assume you want to issue more than just a reboot via ssh | 16:48 |
| ogra_ | janimo, plugging in the USB connection with usbnet *buioltin* will always try to bring up usb0 (and the desktop/laptop side for it) | 16:49 |
| ogra_ | indeed you shouldnt build it in :) | 16:49 |
| ogra_ | but load it on demand as module | 16:49 |
| plars | ogra_: I don't actually have NM running on the ubuntu-server they are attached to currently | 16:49 |
| ogra_ | well, you want to attach more of them | 16:50 |
| ogra_ | i would actually runs something like dnsmasq | 16:50 |
| ogra_ | so you can hand out IPs to them via dhcp | 16:50 |
| ogra_ | and preseed usb0 properly for that | 16:50 |
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| xnox | ogra_: why does a reboot help after flashing in oem-config? a reboot is still treated as first boot if oem-config is not completed? | 17:26 |
| xnox | ogra_: is it a problem with fastboot reboot then? | 17:26 |
| ogra-cb | xnox, nope. rather with some ubiquity-dm race or onboard | 17:42 |
| ogra-cb | and yes, oem-config-remove is run last, it removed ubiquity-dm ... as long as that didnt run you will always end up in oem-config on next boot | 17:43 |
| ogra-cb | *removes | 17:43 |
| xnox | ogra-cb: right so if I reboot a few times sometimes onboard is fine and sometimes it isn't? but doesn't ubiquity launch onboard anyway ... | 17:44 |
| * xnox will have to play with it. | 17:45 | |
| ogra-cb | err no | 17:45 |
| ogra-cb | if you reboot onboard will always work fine | 17:45 |
| ogra-cb | it just doesnt if it boots through from the tarball installer | 17:45 |
| ogra-cb | i could add another reboot to the process but imho we already have to many (especially with the one we will need for the hostname later) | 17:46 |
| plars | janimo: so from what I'm reading, it looks like it's could just be CONFIG_USB_ETH that we need to turn on? | 17:56 |
| janimo | plars, ogra-cb should know as he had a kernel with that enabled. I am not certain what other (if any) options are required | 17:57 |
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| mjrosenb | hrw: ping | 21:03 |
| mjrosenb | unrelatedy, if I don't want oneconf or update-manager running, what is the right way to turn them off? | 21:12 |
| mjrosenb | ok, so I'm going to assume that the best way forward at this point is to just go through the chrubuntu setup again, since all of the data I care about is on an external sdcard | 21:59 |
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| hrw | mjrosenb: pong | 22:35 |
| mjrosenb | hrw: should I try to get 12.10 working, or should I just give up, re-install from the crazy tarball-downloading script, then try to update directly to 13.04? | 22:36 |
| hrw | mjrosenb: I suggest skipping 12.10 | 22:41 |
| mjrosenb | well, the plann was to get 12.10 booting, then immediately upgrade to 13.04 | 22:41 |
| hrw | mjrosenb: make a backup, upgrade to 13.04 directly. if fail - restore backup | 22:48 |
| mjrosenb | hrw: that shouldn't be too hard, the partitions are small enough that I can dd them both onto an external sd card. | 22:55 |
| philhug | is anyone familiar with the rockchip rk3066 devices? e.g. those chinese hdmi sticks like MK808? | 23:21 |
| philhug | and does anyone have a complete kernel source? the chinese manufacturers don't seem to care much about the GPL. | 23:23 |
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