[08:02] <dholbach> good morning
[14:35] <neoraiychu> Good morning from Chicago, IL  USA!
[14:39] <Parthi_> hi
[14:39] <ingar195> hey
[14:40] <ash__> hi
[14:40] <precipi> hi
[14:40] <coder_> hi
[14:41] <coder_> what r u doing
[14:41] <parthi> is there only one person in this hangout?
[14:42] <imaginary86> Hello! All seems to work :-)
[14:42] <lcastro0789> Hi! online from Guatemala ;)
[14:42] <dotur> hello :)
[14:42] <bsl45> hi there from Moscow, Russia
[14:43] <imaginary86> Stellenbosch, South Africa!
[14:43] <coder_> Hi EYERYONE :-)   ;)
[14:44] <parthi> i am getting the error again and again like saying,
[14:44] <parthi> "Some error exists pLease restart" or "continue to use"..
[14:44] <parthi> Is that solved?
[14:45] <coder_> COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOlllllllllllllllllllll
[14:46] <designbybeck> QUESTION: What kind of tablet is that again?
[14:46] <designbybeck> Ah Nexis
[14:46] <parthi> hey its very gud to see ubuntu on nexus
[14:47] <parthi> can v install python/java application in that?
[14:47] <designbybeck> In the USA can you only get it on AT&T service?
[14:48] <bsl45> I wonder if Toshiba AC100 is still going to be supported, it's a legit netbook on ARMv7 but its Tegra2 video support is still not there, no hardware acceleration, no suspend.
[14:50] <cabbage> ahhhh
[14:50] <cabbage> he's using a mechanical keyboard
[14:50] <ba7a7chy> XD
[14:50] <olavk2> hello everyone
[14:50] <cabbage> hello
[14:50] <ba7a7chy> yo
[14:50] <dotur> that would be cray having ubuntu on your washing mashine
[14:52] <coder_> hey Are All of u waiting for the ghangout to start
[14:53] <ba7a7chy> it is great !
[14:53] <ba7a7chy> I love askubuntu !
[14:53] <cabbage> 13.04 will be the next LTS right?
[14:54] <Linux4life> It works
[14:54] <midhuno> hi all
[14:54] <Luckk> Hello !
[14:54] <steadramon> hi all
[14:54] <Petar_> hello
[14:54] <dholbach> PLEASE NOTE: if the title of the video on http://ubuntuonair.com/ does not say "Ubuntu Development Hangout with Rick Spencer" you might have to reload the page. I just updated the link.
[14:55] <vaslabs> hello ubuntu people
[14:55] <SSStylish> sweet...
[14:56] <cabbage> thanks for the tip
[14:56] <cabbage> somehow i was playing an old video
[14:56] <cabbage> so now i see "this live event will begin in a few moments" right?
[14:56] <Guest7680> hi
[14:56] <dholbach> and we'll start in about 5 minutes
[14:56] <grisoft> ca't wait
[14:56] <dholbach> :)
[14:56] <grisoft> can't wait
[14:57] <Guest7680> hi
[14:57] <ba7a7chy> 3 more min
[14:57] <vaslabs> I hope will see the new kernel 3.7 in 13.04 :)
[14:57] <ba7a7chy> you can have it in 12.10 with ppa:xorg-edgers
[14:57] <Rugga> Hi, does anyone know the status of hybrid graphics driver development? I know Nvidia has upped their game after steam has been released for Linux
[14:58] <vaslabs> but is it official?
[14:58] <ANUPI> its started :)
[14:58] <vaslabs> and I hope we'll see the official drivers of ATI too for the new kernel
[14:58] <ANGELO> hello :P
[14:59] <ANGELO> ;)
[14:59] <shavit> when it will start?
[14:59] <ANUPI> everybody there
[14:59] <dholbach> we'll kick off in a second
[15:00] <shavit> =)
[15:00] <Tzem> Hello
[15:00] <SSStylish_> cant w8
[15:00] <ANGELO> :D
[15:00] <jqmmes> does the video auto-start?
[15:00] <cabbage> this is my first time watching this haha
[15:01] <ANGELO> They spoke?
[15:01] <ANUPI> deepak are u indian ?
[15:01] <vaslabs> is it on?
[15:01] <Tzem> stavros?
[15:02] <ANUPI> deepak are u indian ?
[15:02] <dholbach> I'll just ask a bunch of questions in the beginning, and then we get to ask your questions
[15:02] <dholbach> can you please please prefix your questions with QUESTION:
[15:02] <dholbach> so they're easier to spot
[15:02] <ANUPI> deepak are u indian ?
[15:02] <dholbach> for example: QUESTION: Where did you get the nice t-shirt from?
[15:02] <ANUPI> deepak are u indian ?
[15:04] <jqmmes> any way to disable the login/logout msgs in the webpage irc?
[15:04] <apt-get_install> QUESTION: Will the search results from Amazon be disabled by deafult in 13.04?
[15:04] <naveen_> hi
[15:04] <avinash> when it will start
[15:04] <naveen_> how much time it will take to start
[15:04] <lars4mnt> @jqmmes The purple IRC icon in the corner, options and then around in the middle hide JOIN/Quit/parts
[15:04] <bsl45> Come on, guys! This is not really a recruiting event or is it?
[15:05] <jqmmes> thx lars4mnt :)
[15:05] <bcurtiswx> everyone who has hit play before it started needs to refresh the page, we are live :)
[15:05] <Manolo> Hi
[15:05] <lars4mnt> you're welcome jqmmes
[15:05] <xavier_> help
[15:05] <JON___> started?
[15:05] <coder_> how much time more
[15:06] <designbybeck> Good point... in Open Source their problems are your problems! nice!
[15:06] <bcurtiswx> QUESTION: Does the Valve work going on mix with the work you are doing/ your team?
[15:06] <pmik76> hello everyone.. the hangout has started
[15:06] <stavrosLinux> how can I ingore joins, quits?
[15:06] <ZarathustraDK> Little icon in top left chat-window ---> Options ---> Hide "Join/Leave" messages
[15:06] <stavrosLinux> thanks man
[15:07] <khwu_> m
[15:07] <bcurtiswx> aww rick, no TV? :)
[15:08] <Tio> you should add applications on it the same way zorin os did. so when you install ubuntu you get a full pc out of the box, every program you need installed, everything working. this is a huge step, is why i use zorin over ubuntu.
[15:08] <Joe____> When you say ubuntu on the phone, do you mean as a sort of dual boot solution, or will one be able to use the phone as a phone to make calls/take photos and so on?
[15:08] <EHankinson> Please drop Unity
[15:08] <ba7a7chy> no ! i love unity
[15:08] <im2thk> How many developers are working on Ubuntu?
[15:08] <steadramon> gah unity haters
[15:08] <Joe____> Tio, I disagree, I start with the minimal install because I'd rather not have everything everyone might need installed on my machine.
[15:08] <vaslabs> unity has become great
[15:09] <EHankinson> Gnome with compiz
[15:09] <phil____> i like unity
[15:09] <lars4mnt> Just that they dropped unity 2D sucks a bit on slower hardware
[15:09] <dholbach> please prefix questions with QUESTION:
[15:09] <Tio> at least to have the option to install ubuntu with some deafault applications
[15:10] <Tio> for developers, for normal users, etc
[15:10] <Tio> so you can hose the pack that fits your needs better
[15:10] <olavk2> hello, when will the livestream end?
[15:10] <hackwa_> QUESTION: how will 13.04 work on windows 8 systems with UEFI ?
[15:10] <EHankinson> Dual boot hackwa
[15:11] <Tio> anyway, ubuntu is great. i used windows all my life and now am starting using ubuntu, or ubuntu versions like zorin os
[15:11] <Tio> is great
[15:11] <lars4mnt> Ehankinson hackwa_ means with secure boot stuff in uefi
[15:11] <chirart> ....ubuntu everywhere... good! But... like windows maked-ing?!
[15:11] <mhall119> hackwa_: I believe we have a signed bootloader for 12.10 already that works with UEFI Secure Boot
[15:11] <Joe____> QUESTION: When you say ubuntu on the phone, do you mean as a sort of dual boot solution, or will one be able to use the phone as a phone to make calls/take photos and so on?
[15:12] <hackwa_> nice
[15:12] <ZarathustraDK> QUESTION: Will 13.04 have the new Valve-optimized Nvidia-drivers available?
[15:12] <vaslabs> QUESTION: Will ATI release an official driver for the new kernel that ubuntu 12.10 and later use?
[15:12] <mhall119> hackwa_: we'll have 2 options, a self-signed bootloader for OEMs that ship Ubuntu, and a Microsoft-signed bootloader for everyone else (this is my understanding anyway)
[15:13] <Guest73040> yes
[15:14] <Tio> a great and unique idea : sell ubuntu-usb-stick, an optimized ubuntu version for usb sticks with all it needs for a pc, major applications, etc. so people buy them , plug in any pc, and run ubuntu out of the box with everything they need. and if can be done for tablets as well.
[15:14] <lars4mnt> mhall119: Or we will have to set up a CA, like the web has right now
[15:14] <Tio> Another great idea : ubuntu cloud os. To access your desktop from a webpage.
[15:15] <mhall119> lars4mnt: the firmware doesn't check remote CAs, so trusted keys have to be in the firmware
[15:15] <hackwa_> i was planning on dumping win8 for ubuntu :)
[15:15] <Guest73040> smart phone ubuntu os is a must
[15:15] <im2thk> What happes to compiz now that the lead developer left canonical?
[15:16] <Tio> QUESTION : when will be ubuntu cloud os ? Access your desktop from a webpage.
[15:16] <lars4mnt> mhall119 Still, an unbiased signer is better than keys issued by ms. Since they don't really like linux, they may just refuse to deliver keys.
[15:16] <chirart> QUESTION: Why in the last 2 releases most of users migrated from ubuntu to xubuntu? Unity? Graphical Interface?
[15:16] <Invictus> Help us apple users switch to Ubuntu! I have a macbook pro 8,1 and things like wireless dont work out of the box which is so essential. Help us switch!
[15:17] <mhall119> lars4mnt: I would be surprised if they did
[15:17] <jqmmes> well, my ubuntu doesnt really like to have many scopes installed... dash starts to get really slow, hope you fix that for 13.04...
[15:17] <mhall119> chirart: do you have any data to support "most of users migrated"?
[15:17] <mhall119> jqmmes: it will be
[15:17] <EHankinson> Is Ubuntu heading towards an end user system or will it stay developmental?
[15:18] <Tio> QUESTION : when will be ubuntu cloud os ? Access your desktop from a webpage.
[15:18] <mhall119> jqmmes: that's one of the primary reasons for the changes he mentioned
[15:18] <lars4mnt> I'll hope that, mhall119. But with competitors, you'll never know for sure
[15:18] <jqmmes> ok, thats good to hear!
[15:18] <chirart> me, first, and all of my knowns that in the past used ubuntu, know passed to xubuntu
[15:18] <Invictus> stop amazon! We are not a product to sell we are your customers dont become like google
[15:19] <apt-get_install> Invictus:  +1
[15:19] <jqmmes> well, they said that they wont be droping amazon...
[15:19] <apt-get_install> that's sad
[15:19] <xKhnum> Wayland  compositor in 13.04?
[15:19] <lars4mnt> Just apt-get remove unity-lens-amazon. Done.
[15:19] <Invictus> i know but voicing our opinion matters
[15:20] <mhall119> the Amazon search will be there, but it will be different than it is now (all Dash searching will be)
[15:20] <apt-get_install> lars4mnt: it is not just the lens
[15:20] <hackwa_> no you can disable it there is an option in privacy settings
[15:20] <stavrosLinux> QUESTION: wayland news ?
[15:20] <notmyrealname> lens are ok, just hope we get some security
[15:20] <panzerboy> hello
[15:21] <lars4mnt> apt-get_install: Is there other amazon-related adware installed too?
[15:21] <apt-get_install> lars4mnt: yea
[15:21] <panzerboy> is he talking about Steam?
[15:21] <mhall119> unity-lens-amazon provides the Amazon product results
[15:21] <hackwa_> no adware
[15:21] <panzerboy> (just joined the hangout)
[15:21] <JON___> is there any ubuntu expert in malaysia whom I can contact with ?
[15:22] <bcurtiswx> dholbach, thanks :)
[15:22] <lars4mnt> apt-get_install: Oh, you mean in the launcher? That's just a shortcut. And that one does not invade my privacy.
[15:22] <introspection> hello everyone
[15:22] <Tashasetsuki> With valve and gaming being supported more, are viruses / spyware going to be an issue in Ubuntu like in Windows?
[15:22] <panzerboy> Tashasetsuki: doubt that
[15:22] <JON___> I hv been using ubuntu since 2008, I wish to promote to my alma mater
[15:23] <verboso> QUESTION: what are the updates on Wayland? Is that stable enough yet?
[15:23] <apt-get_install> lars4mnt: i didnt mean them
[15:23] <lars4mnt> Tashasetsuki: When they ubuntu gets enough market share, sure there will be viruses. But since ubuntu is o
[15:23] <lars4mnt> pen source, the bugs can be fixed quite fast.
[15:24] <panzerboy> Tashasetsuki: the issue is not having games or not
[15:24] <apt-get_install> QUESTION: Will the support for the LTS be longer than 5 years in the future?
[15:24] <panzerboy> Tashasetsuki: but Linux is, by design, more secure I would say
[15:24] <ba7a7chy> will there be a better support for SLI 2x and SLI 4x ? or is this an nvidia issue ?
[15:25] <jvrbanac> QUESTION: Sorry if this question has already been asked already (joined late). But, what are the 3 top goals for Unity in 13.04?
[15:25] <lars4mnt> panzerboy: Absolutely more secure, because a lot of people can look at the code and point out bugs.
[15:25] <fox__> if there's virus on ubuntu, that virus not threaten ubuntu only, but all linux distibutions
[15:25] <ba7a7chy> QUESTION: will there be a better support for SLI 2x and SLI 4x ? or is this an nvidia issue ?
[15:26] <Tashasetsuki> Yes, I know, that is why I was asking, Im just saying when an operating system becomes more popular, poeple will want to take advantage and try to get other peoples information.. because just like windows, we have adobe flash (or will have again I assume) and other programs like that which have the same vulnerabilities as windows
[15:26] <lars4mnt> fox__: If it's an exploit in unity-related code, i think it does not affect other distros :)
[15:26] <mhall119> Unity is available on other distros
[15:26] <notmyrealname> So with the all the lens being added, will there also be security for those said lens? Which the amazon lens has none.
[15:27] <EHankinson> Ubuntu on everything!
[15:27] <mhall119> notmyrealname: currently each lens/scope is responsible for it's own security
[15:28] <Erro> How will the restrictions on Ubuntu phone be? Would one need to root it?
[15:28] <fox__> QUESTION: will ubuntu (espesially ubuntu server edition) add more killer enterprise solutions? such like RHEV.
[15:28] <Tashasetsuki> That is my main concern, not that Ubuntu or linux would be less secure, but the proprietary programs we will be using will be just as poorly secured as the Windows / Mac counterparts..
[15:28] <notmyrealname> but if its going to be defalt, shouldn't ubuntu be one responible?
[15:29] <EHankinson> Will there ever be a Ubuntu media box?
[15:29] <mhall119> Tashasetsuki: strong app sandboxing is one of our primary goals for 14.04, and parts of that are already being worked on for 13.04
[15:29] <mhall119> notmyrealname: for defaults, yes
[15:30] <cabbage> yes that will be fantastic
[15:30] <notmyrealname> So why does amazon lens have none? just plan text..
[15:30] <cabbage> your desktop PC in your phone
[15:30] <mhall119> notmyrealname: the amazon lens sends data over SSL
[15:30] <Tashasetsuki> mhall119: Fair enough.
[15:31] <espnu> wait hold on, ubuntu desktop on a phone/tablet?
[15:31] <Tashasetsuki> Are there any plans to work on better upgrade of video drivers or drivers in general?
[15:31] <steadramon> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nexus7
[15:31] <espnu> how is that suppose to work? assuming the desktop isn't touch optimized.
[15:31] <lars4mnt> notmyrealname: The problem is, pictures related to your search results are sent directly from amazon servers. They may be able to reproduce your search query  with that information.
[15:31] <josh___martin> QUESTION: Do you have plans to add enterprise features for servers out of "box", for example: could ubuntu completely replace Windows server and exchange, etc.
[15:31] <espnu> (it's pretty hard closing apps on nexus 7, as of now)
[15:32] <Dejw> ubuntu needs a closer cooperation with google to win the desktop market. chrome_os and ubuntu ... alone not big chance but together is a perfekt combo to kick billy and apple in the nuts ;)
[15:32] <cabbage> espnu: yeap. the idea is you use your normal phone on to the go, and when you get to home/office you plug it into a cradle connected to a keyboard/mouse and monitor and thre's your desktop replacement
[15:32] <mhall119> espnu: drag the launcher icon to the trash to close
[15:32] <ba7a7chy> Becuase Nvidia kick ass :)
[15:32] <espnu> hm i see
[15:32] <mhall119> espnu: Ubuntu for Android assumes your phone is docked to a screen, keyboard and mouse
[15:34] <ba7a7chy> edubuntu
[15:34] <Kellimtai> Question about the mobile smartphone what will be about the warrenty if you want to install 14.4 ubuntu on a android os, will you need to root it befor or?
[15:35] <lars4mnt> ba7a7chy: Thanks. I was thinking he was saying edge-ubuntu :/
[15:35] <noneofthem> I love the fact that there are more laptops available with Ubuntu preinstalled now. ASUS is doing a great job in my opinion. What other manufacturers can we expect to release Ubuntu devices in 2013?
[15:35] <steadramon> The Nexus 7 ships with a locked bootloader. You must unlock it in order to flash different images to the device.
[15:35] <Tashasetsuki> Dell
[15:36] <noneofthem> Yeah. I saw Dells developer laptop. Who else may we be looking at next year apart from ASUS, Lenovo, Dell, System76 and Samsung?
[15:37] <EHankinson> Please make it an option.
[15:37] <noneofthem> Unity is an option already.
[15:37] <lars4mnt> The dev laptop from Dell with Ubuntu is more expensive than the same laptop with windows. I'm not really convinced.
[15:37] <jervin_also> is Unity a delicious user experience?
[15:38] <ba7a7chy> Unity = <3
[15:38] <derEremit> only thing that still anoys me is click and drag: dragging some files to launcher schould reveal that window
[15:38] <derEremit> apart from that i love it
[15:38] <harijay> Does anybody know what the status of Project Wayland is?
[15:38] <Joe____> @lars4mnt, dell redid a lot of their pricing the day they released the developer ubuntu ultrabook.  It's now about $100 less then the windows option.
[15:38] <hackwa> lars4mnt : i guess thats because thay had to custom build drivers for that particular system
[15:38] <Dejw> ubuntu needs a closer cooperation with google to win the desktop market. chrome_os and ubuntu ... alone not big chance but together is a perfekt combo to kick billy and apple in the nuts ;)
[15:38] <noneofthem> @lars4mnt: That is not true. There was an error. The Ubuntu version is actually cheaper than the Windows counterpart
[15:38] <jervin_also> I like Unity now, but the first default version wasn't user ready.
[15:38] <lars4mnt> noneofthem: Okay, wasn't updated on that yet
[15:39] <noneofthem> no worries
[15:39] <noneofthem> Things are moving fast
[15:39] <harijay> Is project Wayland coming along?
[15:39] <phill1> i like unity and dash
[15:39] <mhall119> harijay: prefix your questions with QUESTION:
[15:39] <Nitin> What's ubuntu's plan to get to tablet markets?
[15:39] <jervin_also> Anything that depends on me remembering all of the obscure software on my computer is inately flawed.
[15:40] <noneofthem> Are there plans for a Surface-like device running Ubuntu?
[15:40] <Joe____> I switched to xfce a few versions ago, and just took a look at unity recently.  It's looking pretty good now.
[15:40] <Nitin> QUESTION: What's ubuntu's plan to get to tablet markets?
[15:40] <harijay> QUESTION: How about project Wayland the X replacement . How is that coming along
[15:40] <Joe____> @noneofthem - isn't the nexus 7 along those lines?
[15:40] <xKhnum> Ubuntu need "speed"  so: what optimizations will be made in 13.04 (ram, cpu)?- Google Go language will be used more in Ubuntu and Python less? ( maybe for Ubuntu Software Center); Wayland compositor for better performance?  Will de a  "peformance mode" like it was  Unity 2d - (for good games  performance)
[15:40] <Tashasetsuki> Are there any plans to work on better upgrade of video drivers or drivers in general?
[15:40] <irv_> How long of support time will 13.04 have?
[15:40] <noneofthem> Unity is fantastic. Hate having to use Windows 7 at work.
[15:41] <Joe____> @harijay, your question is probably in the queue, they'll get there.
[15:41] <apt-get_install> the dash is slow because of all amazon crapware
[15:41] <noneofthem> @irv 18 months as it is a normal release
[15:41] <ave_> you were talking about getting into development- but as a windows developer its a little overwhelming coming into the opensource world, where things seem to be a little all over the place and not very well documented- where do I even start
[15:41] <Erro> Why wouldn't Canonical support the raspberry PI?
[15:41] <lars4mnt> apt-get_install: False. After uninstalling that stuff, it is still too slow to be useful
[15:41] <xKhnum> Unity is very good but need more speed....
[15:41] <Nitin> Tashasetsuki's question +1. Should Ubuntu users ditch anything nvidia?
[15:41] <daro> QUESTION: what about folders(not quicklist) in Unity like in iOS?, there's project call "drawers"...
[15:41] <hackwa> i liked 12.04 more than 12.10
[15:41] <espnu> unity always seems to freeze at my computer, had problems with my hard drive lately. might be caused by kernel panic, im not sure. :/
[15:41] <mesirendon> I'm not totally convinced about unity. It works great, yes, but I'm using gnome3. i found it better to work.
[15:42] <EHankinson> My fav is 10.04
[15:42] <hackwa> 10.10 was best
[15:42] <noneofthem> 12.10 is the best release so far in my opinion
[15:42] <noneofthem> started with 5.04
[15:42] <mesirendon> I liked 11.04
[15:42] <lars4mnt> espnu: A kernel panic halts your system. It does not slow it down. Bad ram can also cause problems.
[15:43] <hackwa> me with 9.04
[15:43] <ZarathustraDK> X don't have a soul?
[15:43] <ba7a7chy> lol x is ginger XD
[15:43] <espnu> alright, sounds like kernel panic then. because everthing halts/freezes.
[15:44] <noneofthem> Are there plans for a better Calendar for Ubuntu? I would love to see Google Calendar integration
[15:44] <ba7a7chy> secound that !
[15:44] <EHankinson> Libraries
[15:44] <lars4mnt> espnu: I have also experienced those freezes, but they just seemed to disappear magically...
[15:44] <popey> dholbach, probably the reason they're asking about more than 5 years is because RHEL is supported for longer :)
[15:45] <ba7a7chy> QUESTION: Will there be a "real" integration of unity web apps or will it stay a moziila shourtcut ?
[15:45] <hackwa> rhel is not free :P
[15:45] <daro> ntegrate new calendar with Nitro
[15:46] <mhall119> ba7a7chy: what isn't "real" about it now?
[15:47] <espnu> @ba7a7chy, i think chrome was about to "allow"/"create" web apps. will see if i find it :)
[15:47] <jqmmes> yeah, unity webapps is a bit useless and weak at the moment :\... at least in my opinion...
[15:47] <ba7a7chy> mhall119 right now it is more of a shourtcut for firefox not a fully integrated applicattion like a notification, indicator and such
[15:48] <irv_> Why do I have to setup PPA so I can install more lens? Are lens going to come in the base package?
[15:48] <jvrbanac> dholbach, thanks!
[15:48] <jqmmes> irv_ they said before, that the objective is to have most of the lens pre-installed by default
[15:48] <lars4mnt> irv_: Plans are to bundle community lenses and install them by default
[15:48] <lars4mnt> jqmmes: You beat me to it :/
[15:48] <jqmmes> ahah
[15:49] <apt-get_install> QUESTION: Will the better support for games and applications mean bigger malware risk? (Flash, Java in browser, etc)
[15:49] <jqmmes> isnt flash pretty much dead?
[15:49] <apt-get_install> jqmmes: u are joking?
[15:49] <mhall119> ba7a7chy: right now it integrates with the Launcher, the HUD, the Sound menu and the Messaging menu, that's more than just a shortcut
[15:49] <jqmmes> no... i wish it had died already... hate it...
[15:49] <ba7a7chy> " I dont know what the question is but the awnswer is yes" :)
[15:50] <lars4mnt> Flash should have been killed by html5, but the performance of html5 is too bad currently
[15:50] <Tashasetsuki> apt-get_install: I asked that earlier, but they didnt answer it.. I doubt we will have issues with malware... but being a proprietary program and having the same security issues as the Windows/Mac counterparts..
[15:51] <ba7a7chy> QUESTION: Are you moving tawords or away from MONO ?
[15:52] <MuzZz> when do you think, a new and updated version of ubuntu will come up? probable time
[15:52] <mhall119> MuzZz: April 2013 :)
[15:52] <MuzZz> ohh, ty :)
[15:52] <steadramon> 2013-04
[15:53] <Joe____> @MuzZz, they're still sticking to the 6 month schedule, new releases in April and October, with a new LTS every 18 months.
[15:53] <MuzZz> ohh thats cool :)
[15:54] <MuzZz> what do you guys think, which is better, gnome classic or unity? or xfce or cinnamon for ubuntu?
[15:54] <jervin_also> I'm reasonably happy with anything that lets me use my computer easily.
[15:55] <phill1> for faster computers unity
[15:55] <mhall119> +1 jervin_also
[15:55] <mesirendon> I've used all of them... but (this is my personal opinion) Gnome 3 is working very nice to me. I liked gnome 2 and I used all those compiz effects, but I moved to the new one and I like its simplicity
[15:55] <lars4mnt> MuzZz: Depends what you want. Windows-like (xfce i think) or something revolutionar (unity)
[15:55] <MuzZz> for a 2 cores cpu with 2 gigs of ram
[15:55] <jqmmes> @MuzZz that depends on each taste... I myself use unity, but for a lightweight desktop i also like lxde
[15:55] <Joe____> QUESTION: A lot of people were excited about the new Dell developer laptop.  Any new options/cooperations we can get excited about?
[15:55] <ZarathustraDK> QUESTION: Landscape would be a nice management tool for schools and libraries were it not for the steep per-machine licensing cost (105$ per machine it seems). Any plans to offer bulk subscriptions of Landscape? Make it free for private users?
[15:56] <Joe____> QUESTION: Tablets rely heavily (completely) on touch interface.  I haven't used ubuntu on a touch interface at all, but what's the progress/timeframe there?
[15:58] <noneofthem> What's the status on NAUTILUS? Will Canonical make their own fork?
[15:59] <Tashasetsuki> Are there any plans to work on better upgrade of video drivers or drivers in general?
[15:59] <Tashasetsuki> >.<
[15:59] <ba7a7chy> Thats it ?!?!?
[15:59] <EHankinson> Its been real
[15:59] <ba7a7chy> so many questions left unawnserd :(
[15:59] <Tashasetsuki> Yeah..
[16:00] <MuzZz> i love ubuntu, have been using it since 3 weeks, had to reinstall it several times, because i screwed up somethings
[16:00] <EHankinson> Will there be an Ubuntu media box?
[16:00] <mesirendon> Please, an answer to Joe's question
[16:00] <MuzZz> i QUIT MICROSOFT
[16:00] <apt-get_install> EHankinson: xbmubuntu?
[16:00] <EHankinson> Thanks
[16:00] <EHankinson> xbmubuntu? standalone box
[16:01] <mhall119> Joe____: mesirendon: Right now the focus is on reducing our system resource requirements so that it will run on tablet hardware, then we'll have a good foundation for building a touch-friendly UI
[16:01] <ZarathustraDK> Thank you for the time Rick ^^
[16:01] <jqmmes> its called xbmcbuntu, not xbmubuntu
[16:01] <ba7a7chy> thanks !!!
[16:01] <mesirendon> thx Joe
[16:01] <jvrbanac> Thanks Rick and dholbach!
[16:01] <EHankinson> Thanx guys
[16:02] <daro_> see you guys, thx
[16:02] <apt-get_install> jqmmes: okey
[16:02] <ba7a7chy> bb
[16:02] <dholbach> awesome session
[16:02] <dholbach> thanks everyone!
[16:02] <apt-get_install> bye
[16:02] <ba7a7chy> what is his nick ?
[16:02] <steadramon> thx guys
[16:04] <Phil1> thanks
[16:04] <Nitin> Thanks !
[16:18] <khs> hi
[16:43] <riddz17> Is Ubuntu making invasion in the mobile devices platform or support for some of the new Technologies like Gesture Control?
[17:18] <saurabh> hi
[17:23] <riddz17> Is Ubuntu making invasion in the mobile devices platform or support for some of the new Technologies like Gesture Control?
[17:24] <H3X> There was a bug in the wubi when installing 12.10 where you cant login and it tries to force root..  so i went with 12.04 LTS and was wondering if it would still do that if i upgrade via terminal?  Because Im afraid to upgrade due to this issue
[17:25] <H3X> note: when it forces root it is impossible to login