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Noskcajthe xubuntu daily freezes on the hit enter to restart propmpt08:58
elfyNoskcaj: found something else with that update window ... if it's in the downloading state, you can't resize - unless you go for more detail, once it has the terminal output you can resize it09:00
Noskcajelfy: strange can you report the bug?09:05
Noskcajand try and confirm the daily thing, i found it in AMD64 Vbox09:05
elfyI'll try and find out what to report it against and do it09:06
elfydaily thing?09:06
Noskcaj the xubuntu daily freezes on the hit enter to restart propmpt09:06
elfyhave a look a bit later at that09:06
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psivaajamespage: raring server ceph tests have some post install test failures,13:09
psivaatestCephRadosGateway:   Ceph Rados Gateway Daemon not running or to many daemons running13:09
psivaatestCephRadosGatewayApache: Failed to connect to the localhost13:09
psivaatestRestBench: ERROR: XmlParseFailure13:09
psivaajamespage: the tests are run with 40G disk space as instructed though13:10
jamespagepsivaa, oooo13:11
* jamespage looks13:11
psivaajamespage: thanks13:11
jamespagepsivaa, looks like the storage bits are working OK but the http rest gateway is broken13:13
jamespageI'll debug this in a bit13:13
jamespage(working on some ceph updates right now as it happens)13:14
psivaajamespage: thanks13:14
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jamespagepsivaa, you don't happen to know how much ram a test instance gets off the top of your head do you?14:11
psivaajamespage: probably 512M, that's the number i am seeing in the conf files. let me confirm it with max14:15
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psivaajamespage: yes just got it confirmed that it is 51214:18
jamespagepsivaa, hmm14:26
jamespagepsivaa, how trivial would it be to increase that to 4G?14:27
jamespageI'm thinking that the radosgw might be failing to start due to lack of memory14:27
jamespagethe system is already running three quite resource intensive daemons by that point in time.14:27
psivaajamespage: afaik, the RAM is set in the conf file that is common to all jobs in the server, although by providing the vm.xml file we should be able to alter that for a singly job14:29
psivaajamespage: i'll have to try that though14:30
jamespagepsivaa, please; I can't seem to reproduce the issue using a 4G 2CPU node14:30
psivaajamespage: ok, ill try that. thanks14:31
jamespagepsivaa, thanks14:31
phillwballoons: ping :)15:01
balloonsright on schedule mate15:02
phillwcan we start with the classroom sessions?15:02
phillwhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Activities/Classroom15:03
balloonsk15:04
phillwone thing that will be needed is for people attending to have an iso already downloaded... care to choose one?15:05
balloonsyes15:11
balloonsnoskcaj and I were talking about that15:11
balloonsI was going to ask the classroom folks there thoughts15:11
balloonswe could simply ask people to download it beforehand, but the best way to do so?15:11
phillwI think put it in the notes announcing the sessions?15:12
* TheLordOfTime glances in.15:13
TheLordOfTimeyou may want to poke the classroom people on that, i'm probably one of the people that would refuse do download $huge_file_or_iso just for a classroom session.15:13
TheLordOfTimes/do/to/15:13
phillwit's not going to be very easy to explain testing an iso without one?15:14
TheLordOfTimetrue, but if you're a user who wants to help with testing but has extremely limited DL speeds or has bandwidth caps, you'd be in the same situation15:14
TheLordOfTimeit's not a concern for me, but for others it may be.15:14
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phillwwhich brings in the importance of teaching people about using zsync... I know, it takes me about 3 - 4 hours to down load a CD sized iso!15:16
balloonsphillw, my other thought was to grab a mini iso15:17
phillwi was thinking the same :)15:17
balloonsthe trouble there is you wouldn't get a full iso to play with15:17
phillwbut you do get a fully working system which can boot, albeit in terminal mode only.15:18
balloonsphillw, yes you would15:21
balloonsthe other option is to have people use an iso they may have15:21
phillwbut, you can't zsync a mini.iso15:21
balloonsif they installed ubuntu at some point, they should have an iso :-)15:21
phillwindeed. So asking them to either dig out their iso before the sessions, or download one if they don't still have it?15:22
balloonsI think having them download an iso is still the best15:23
balloonsbut for those that can't, re-use one15:23
balloonsand of course if you can't dl or re-use, well then, you probably can't test then anyway?15:24
balloonsso you could follow along for knowledge sack15:24
phillwsounds reasonable. :)15:24
phillwif people have, e.g., got their install CD, that can be easily converted into an iso. But to run through the test cases would be better done with a raring one?15:27
balloonsyes of course15:29
balloonsand again, I assume they want to learn to do it15:29
balloonsso they need to be able to grab a raring iso15:29
phillwwhich is best done before we start the classroom sessions.15:30
balloonsyep15:34
balloonsindeed15:34
phillwI'll have a chat with the classroom people about how best to advertise that to get the best from the sessions they should get a raring iso downloaded.15:34
balloonsdoesn't even matter what day, etc15:34
balloonsyou can zsync it15:34
phillwyup :)15:34
balloonsyes I would ask classroom folks about making sure they come prepared15:34
phillware you okay with the sessions i've volunteered you for?15:35
balloonsyes15:35
balloonsnot sure I need 60 mins for intro though :-)15:35
phillwfeel free to adjust the time you want :)15:36
zygahey everyone15:37
roadmrzyga: welcome!15:37
zygacr3: hey man, how are you15:37
zygaroadmr: one more thing on the review, is the IP good to publish now?15:37
zygaroadmr: is the instance (without data, properly-whitelisted)15:37
zygaplars_: hey!15:38
cr3zyga: hey dude, it's been a rough few weeks but surviving. how's cert been?15:38
zygaplars_: we're breaking the ice that kept the cert team on the canonical IRC ;-)15:38
zygacr3: cert's rather good I think, how is your new job? video transcoding is probably a bit more challenging than testing15:39
roadmrzyga: the ip *will* change at some point15:39
zygaroadmr: I know, I just mean now, is safe to just have it there in the open?15:39
roadmrzyga: let's ask schwuk15:39
zygaok15:39
cr3zyga: it's certainly different :)15:39
zygacr3: we're rewriting checkbox :-) I just pushed 0.2 of the new code to the ppa15:40
zygacr3: magic hardware accelerators or just plain xeons? :)15:40
roadmrcr3: so did they force you to get a smartphone to test the video streaming? :P15:40
cr3zyga: no hardware accelerators :)15:41
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cr3roadmr: fortunately not, I still have my old dumb phone :)15:42
balloonslol15:42
roadmrcr3: hehe nice!15:42
cr3zyga: congrats on the new version of checkbox!15:42
zygaroadmr: I'm starting auto-package-testing stuff15:42
zygaroadmr: this may actually be useful :)15:42
zygacr3: the code is on github ;)15:42
zygacr3: http://github.com/zyga/plainbox15:42
cr3zyga: what a surprise!15:42
zygacr3: but it got merged back to lp yesterday :)15:43
zygabrendand: hey15:48
zygabrendand: so you've used autopkgtest?15:48
brendandzyga, i what?15:48
zygabrendand: do you know how to use autopkgtest?15:48
brendandzyga, not really. i looked at it a bit at uds15:48
zygabrendand: ok15:49
zygahttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/TestCaseCompetition <- those instructions don't really work15:51
zygasigh15:51
zygapitti: ping15:52
balloonszyga, there's a better page fo rit15:55
balloonszyga, http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/auto-pkg-test.html15:55
zygaI also saw http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/auto-pkg-test.html15:55
zygaheh15:55
balloons:-pp15:55
balloonsso, what15:56
psivaajamespage: making the RAM to 4G in the vm xml makes the ceph tests to pass. Now the recommended way to include these job specific requirements is by the structure that nuclearbob talks about in bug 108451515:56
ubot5Launchpad bug 1084515 in UTAH "setup_jobs: Jenkins raring server raid1 jobs need two disks for successful installation" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/108451515:56
balloonszyga, so can you summarize plainbox in 2 sentences -- what's new/diff than checkbox now?15:56
zygaballoons: the architecture is much easier to understand and use, the code is almost fully tested and documented, plainbox does not have any actual jobs/scripts and instead is designed to process data from checkbox (package or source repo)15:57
zygaballoons: it will have senbile API stability and can be used to easily build third party testing tools for custom tasks15:57
zygaballoons: and it also solves some annoyances with checkbox / does a better job at doing the same15:58
jamespagepsivaa, \o.15:58
jamespagepsivaa, great news15:58
zygaballoons: down the road we also want to replace the UI, work on that is ongoing (design and prototypes)16:00
balloonszyga, ok so for now, mostly under the hood stuff16:07
zygaballoons: yes but the code already allows one to run most of checkbox tests, it is useful for debugging16:08
zygaballoons: pretty soon we'll support all tests as in checkbox, then we can start working on the UI layer16:08
roadmrand then... the world16:12
balloonsmwahahahha16:13
zygaroadmr: shortly after the UI ;)16:14
zygadoes anyone know how to increase the timeout for a test run16:17
zygafor me it's too short16:18
pittizyga: pong17:50
zygare18:17
zygapitti, hi, I wanted to use auto-pkg-test with checkbox, initially I want to learn about the tool, I was following examples on the wiki but it seems that the operation times out before the whole test run finishes (due to network speed), do you know how to increase the timeout?18:18
pittizyga: you mean if you run it locally with run-adt-test?18:19
zygayes18:20
zygathe vm log from the prep that get started with prepare-testbed18:20
pittizyga: so it doesn't seem we have a timeout option right now; but feel free to hack it locally, and we can add one18:21
zygaI want to change it, just a hack, to explore more18:21
zygaI tried to find it (before pulling my PCI-E card by accident two hours ago) but I didn't have enough luck18:21
zygapitti: do you know where I can change it18:32
pittizyga: according to man adt-run, something like adding --timeout-factor=5 ?18:33
pittizyga: (but no, I don't know by heart, I never ran into a timeou)18:34
pittizyga: sorry, need to leave; good night everyone!18:36
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Noskcaj bug 1065789 is back :(19:25
ubot5Launchpad bug 1065789 in ubuntu-website-content "the 12.10 release notes link in installer points to www.ubuntu.com" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/106578919:25
Noskcajthe release notes link got unhidden19:25
Noskcajballoons: is there any more info on the classroom sessions, i have to go after your one and maybe phillw's and need to know the times to check with my parents/younger brothers so i don't get interrupted19:49
Noskcajballoons, the package tracker needs week one to stop being tested i beleive19:51
balloonshey Noskcaj19:52
balloonswe were speaking about classroom sessions this morning19:52
balloonsso, basically we're going to ask the classroom folks about getting people to pre-download the iso19:53
balloonsI'll cc you on the email19:53
Noskcajok, just i would rather they have a day old one19:54
Noskcajfor syncing purposes19:55
balloonsif it's going to happen before jan, it has to happen next week19:55
balloonsbut given the holidays, I'm not sure how many would show up19:55
balloonsdid you have want to do it before Janurary?19:55
Noskcaji can do either, but remember school goes till the 19th and i live in australia19:57
Noskcajschool is from 9am to 3:30pm plus i have other stuff19:58
balloonswhat days off do you have in austrailia?19:58
balloonsin janurary I mean19:58
Noskcajall of them, summer holidays :)19:58
Noskcajactually till the 28th19:59
balloonsNoskcaj, nice!19:59
balloonswell then, I think that settles it19:59
balloonslet's do January19:59
balloonsI20:00
Noskcajok20:00
balloonsI'll pick an early Jan date, and we can tentatively schedule everything then20:00
Noskcajsounds good20:00
Noskcajwhat time utc is  your ideal?20:01
balloonsphillw, Jan ok with you?20:01
balloonsumm.. now is fine for me.. it's like 7ish for you?20:01
Noskcajin the morning20:02
balloonsso I think something like 2100 or 2200 UTC might grab the most people, but I could be wrong20:02
Noskcajany time from about now to 8pm AEDST is ok20:03
balloonsI can do 1400 UTC till 2300 UTC20:03
balloonsok, I think you should be fine...20:03
Noskcajjust did the converting, we only have 2000UTC to 2300UTC if we are both to be online20:06
balloonsyes this is our time to be online together20:09
NoskcajStupid timezones, messing with me20:09
balloonsmany people around the world are awake (except for smartboy, but he should be up soon :-p )20:09
Noskcajbug 1085171 is going to make things difficult, especially for me20:13
ubot5Launchpad bug 1085171 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "installer doesn't appear Ubuntu AMD 64 in Vbox" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/108517120:13
balloonsNoskcaj, u can work around it for now by loading 'try ubuntu'20:19
balloonsthen hitting 'install now'20:19
Noskcajthrough the cli menu?20:20
balloonsyes20:27
balloonson boot20:27
Noskcajok20:27
Noskcajnow we just need to find what causes it20:28
balloonsxnox would know more about it20:31
balloonsI'm guessing it was dropping metacity from ubiquity20:32
Noskcajand lubuntu has a similar bug20:33
Noskcajbug 108557720:33
ubot5Launchpad bug 1085577 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Lubuntu daily's CLI links dont work" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/108557720:33
ScottKballoons: Edubuntu is doing Alpha 1 now as well, so they should be added to /topic.22:35
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