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Squirmmorning05:10
mazalMorning Squirm 05:11
magespawnmorning all05:41
mazalMorning magespawn 05:41
magespawnhey mazal05:42
mazalHow you 05:42
magespawngood and yourself?05:42
mazalGood thanx05:42
magespawnin-laws are coming down next week, and the fish go back with them, so i will have a bit of a break for december05:44
mazalFish ?05:46
magespawnfish=kids05:46
mazalAh ok05:46
mazalYou gonna wonder what to do with all your time :)05:47
magespawnnot for the first couple of days, maybe a week05:48
superflymagespawn: oh yeah... I know EXACTLY what to do with time without the kids.... SLEEP!!!05:53
magespawnindeed and watch movies without interuption05:54
magespawnand talk to my wife05:54
Kiloshi superfly magespawn 05:54
Kilosand all others05:54
magespawnthat is not inuendo for something else05:54
magespawnhey Kilos05:54
superflymagespawn: bwahahaha, I agree!05:55
superflypeace and quiet... oh golly, what I wouldn't do for a little bit of that05:55
magespawnwe get it once a year since my wifes parents live in the NW05:56
superflyWe don't get it since my parents don't babysit and my wife's parents live halfway across the world05:57
magespawnthat is hectic, everyone needs a bit of a break05:58
superflywell, #2 is only 4 months old, so when he's older we'll have one of our friends whom we trust take them both for an evening while we enjoy a short break... go to the movies or something :-)05:59
magespawnwow 4 months already seems like it was yesterday06:00
superflymaybe for you... for us he's not so little any more. that boy has some serious fat on him. my word is he heavy!06:01
magespawni can tell you one thing, from about 3 - 4 years old it does start to become easier06:01
magespawnhah babies are cool06:02
superflywhen they're not teething06:06
barrydkGoeie more almal06:09
superflymorning barrydk06:09
Kiloshi barrydk 06:09
Kiloseek06:20
KilosFor those of you who are going to use newish SAMSUNG HD204UI (2TB F4 EcoGreen 5400rpm) drives in a system, please be aware that you will probably need to patch the firmware on them.06:20
Kilosstupid thing makes bad blocks when other software tries to get in06:20
magespawnhow did you find that out Kilos?06:23
Kilosby searching for samsung HD204UI repair tools06:25
Kiloshttp://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/smartmontools/wiki/SamsungF4EGBadBlocks06:26
magespawnthat is good to know06:27
Kiloshehe but finding the patch and doing it is another story06:28
Kiloshi zeref the hmmmer06:32
Kilosand the patch is in german06:46
Kiloshi jrgns 06:46
jrgnsmorning Kilos06:47
Kilosand wont boot past initdisk06:56
Kilosgrrr06:56
magespawnonly in German Kilos? maybe time to learn a new language?06:57
Kiloslol06:58
Kilosif it could boot all the way in then goosie could help06:58
Kilosif i get the 2TB fixed im gonna try claim it for meeee07:00
magespawncan you use .rpm packages in ubuntu?07:00
magespawnlol07:00
magespawn nice Kilos07:00
Kiloshehe07:00
magespawnuse it for other data recovery?07:00
Kilosother packages i convert with alien magespawn 07:01
Kilosit was to try get the drive working07:01
Kilosso they have already replaced it07:01
magespawnwhat is alien Kilos?07:01
Kilosin repos. it converts rpm and nother one to .deb07:02
Kilosthen no hassles installing07:02
Kiloswhy you ask about .rpm magespawn ?07:03
magespawnFixParts is in .rpm on sourceforge07:08
Kilosoh no i have the right one07:08
magespawnwhere did you get it?07:09
Kilosill send it to you07:09
superflyI would recommend NOT messing with RPMs, because the system they were built on might differ to Ubuntu07:09
Kilostiny thing07:09
superflys/to/from/07:09
magespawnokay 07:09
magespawni thought .rpm was for suse or redhat07:09
Kilosya07:12
Kilosi think this one was converted by them too with alien07:12
Kilosits in your mail07:12
magespawncoo ty Kilos07:15
Kilosyw07:15
* magespawn is now a pigeon07:16
magespawncool ty Kilos07:16
Kiloshehe07:16
Kilospigeons pronk doves cooo07:17
Kilosmorning maiatoday 07:30
* Squirm kicks epoptes07:31
Squirmit's annoying me :/07:32
charl_good morning08:40
charl_Maaz: coffee on08:40
* Maaz puts the kettle on08:40
SquirmMaaz: coffee please08:41
MaazSquirm: Yessir08:41
* Squirm goes and makes real coffee08:41
charl_lol08:42
charl_Squirm: Maaz's coffee no good? :P08:42
MaazCoffee's ready for charl_ and Squirm!08:44
charl_Maaz: thanks hey08:46
Maazafternoon08:46
charl_no man it's morning! what is your clock set at, japanese time?! :)08:46
Squirmcharl_: it lacks...08:48
Squirma certain something08:49
Squirmcan't quite place my tongue on08:49
Squirmmust be caffeine08:49
Kiloshehe hi charl_ 09:10
Kilosand Squirm 09:11
Squirmhello Kilos 09:11
Kilosforget if i greeted the worm09:11
Kilosit is a worm that squirms hey?09:11
magespawnother things too Kilos09:30
Kilosaw hope i didnt upset squirmy09:30
Kiloshi psydroid 09:35
psydroidhi Kilos09:36
SquirmKilos: no, but you've lost me09:52
Kilos?09:52
Squirm.:Kilos:. forget if i greeted the worm09:52
Squirm.:Kilos:. it is a worm that squirms hey?09:52
Squirm.:magespawn:. other things too Kilos09:52
Squirm.:Kilos:. aw hope i didnt upset squirmy09:52
Kilosimmeant how did i lose you09:53
Kilosas in you didnt understand?09:54
SquirmI didn't understand any of what you said10:17
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Kiloshi Trixar_za 10:24
Trixar_zaHey Kilos10:24
Trixar_zahttps://github.com/neutronscott/bash-irc/ <--- that is interesting10:26
Kilosi go see10:56
Kilosna man same as irssi10:56
Kilosxchat is my cuppa tea10:57
Kilosless thinking needed10:57
Trixar_zaYeah, but it's awesome because it was written completely in bash :P10:59
Kilosok11:02
Kilosonly bashing around here is my head11:02
Trixar_zaIt's the most popular cli shell and scripting language for Linux11:03
charl_hi Kilos 11:03
Trixar_zaYou're probably using it right now11:03
charl_sorry just came out of a meeting11:03
Trixar_zahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bash_%28Unix_shell%2911:04
Kiloshi charl_ 11:04
charl_it's a cute side project, not something that most people would ever use11:08
charl_but nice as a proof-of-concept11:08
charl_here's an interesting question for you geeks11:08
charl_what is your favourite (graphical - excluding emacs and vim in other words) code editor on *nix?11:09
charl_currently i am using kdevelop (when i'm not just using vim that is)11:09
Trixar_zaI tend to use geany myself11:12
Trixar_zaand nano if I'm using a shell11:13
Trixar_za:P11:13
Trixar_zahttp://www.geany.org/11:14
Trixar_zaBest lightweight IDE there is that isn't bolted to any one Desktop Environment11:18
Trixar_zaAlthough I hear people on KDE recommends using KATE11:18
magespawngedit and nano for me12:04
magespawnNotepad++ on the other os12:04
Trixar_zaSame12:05
Trixar_zaNotepad++ rocks12:05
Trixar_za:P12:05
magespawnbut not too fixated on any one really12:05
Trixar_zaOnly reason I switched away from gedit is because it's bolted into GNOME12:06
Kiloshi Henk_ 12:19
Henk_hi Kilos 12:19
Kiloshi TheM4ch1n3 12:22
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superflykate is really awesome... and I just want that Python plugin for KDevelop to finally make it into KDevelop, or at least into the repos12:36
mazalBye for now all12:45
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Symmetriaugh13:13
Symmetriaremind me to do a local mirror of the ubuntu archives at home, network installing servers over dsl really sucks13:13
Kiloswhen Symmetria ? when you want the reminder thats is13:32
Symmetriahaha that was rhetorical13:33
Symmetria:p13:33
Kiloshehe13:34
henkjKilos I thought you were a bot that greets people13:36
henkjlol13:36
Vince-0Haai13:38
Kiloshi Vince-0 13:40
Kiloshenkj, i am13:40
Vince-0Hey, Kilos - can I ask for any of my LUG peeps to join here during our online meet on Thursday?13:40
Kilosyes13:41
Vince-0I plan a Google hangout simultaneously13:41
Vince-0Sweet! Thurs eve at 8, if anyone pitches13:41
Vince-0I want to do it regularly13:42
Kilosok as long as they follow our code of conduct13:43
Kilosno bad language etc13:43
Kiloswe have ladies present13:43
Kiloshenkj, also the reminder bot and discipline bot13:44
henkjKilos aren't you too slow to be a bot?13:45
Kilosim an old bot13:46
Vince-0Ha13:46
Vince-0Ok, ill put notes for code of conduct13:47
Vince-0Thanks13:47
Kilosty Vince-0  and if you like just tell each one that joins here to introduce them selves and give a brief summary of what os they use and what they do 13:48
Vince-0I dont expect much participation but it might grow if I do it regularly13:48
Kilosonce 1 or 2 come others will hear about the best irc channel13:48
Vince-0Yes, will do intros13:50
magespawnKilos I found this too http://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/download.html#obs13:56
Kilosty magespawn  will go see13:58
Kiloshi N8Wulf 13:58
N8WulfHi All13:58
N8Wulfhi Kilos13:58
Kilosfirst time here N8Wulf ?13:58
Vince-0Ok see y'all laters13:59
N8Wulffinally December, can you believe it's the 1st chance I get this whole year to logon onto IRQ13:59
Kilosthats bad13:59
N8WulfI've been on here quite a bit last year, helped a bit and learned a lot14:00
Kilossame nick?14:00
Kilosi forgot14:00
N8Wulfsame Nick yes, been mine for about 12 years now14:00
N8Wulfbut time... eish14:01
Kilosmaybe i was sleepin14:01
N8Wulfnah... was able to help only here and there, did quite a bit before unity etc. old G2 and Compiz issues I assisted ppl with.. had similar troubles14:02
Kilosah thats good. i just forget. i love G2 as you call it14:03
Kilosstill run maverick on one pc14:03
N8Wulfme too, tried G3, missed my Cube and wobblies, then tried Unity, mix this and then, messed it up after I couldn't do updates for about a month14:04
N8Wulfmy G3 was so confused I ended up installing Unity yesterday14:05
Kilosoh i actually am getting used to unity and kde as well14:05
N8Wulfcould get my G3 to work in No Effects mode only14:05
N8Wulfkde... pretty but resource hungry14:06
Kilosnot worse than unity14:06
Kilosor close anyway14:06
N8Wulfsuppose... cant wait for touch screen prices to drop so I can have proper use of Unity14:08
N8WulfI'm a big fan of all things Android14:09
N8Wulfso Unity reminds me of this14:09
Kiloshehe14:12
Kiloshey we having our monthly meeting on the 17th and the 18th is our reapproval thing. try be here if you can14:13
Kiloshttp://bit.ly/WtOUPl14:13
Kilosyou too please henkj 14:16
N8Wulf"reapproval" ?14:17
N8WulfRTFM14:17
N8Wulfnevermind14:17
N8Wulf"More non-geeky users at events"14:19
N8WulfI think I need to go to an event and take my wife with... she is a Disciple of Ubuntu any and every day14:19
Kilosgreat14:20
Kilosya the loco has to be reapproved every 2 years14:20
N8WulfI've personally converted a couple of clients (and even Tannie Sus by Reception) to using some ubuntu flav. 14:21
N8Wulfoh and more than one business partner14:21
N8Wulfubuntu-za twitter by the same user?14:22
N8WulfKilos: ubuntu-za twitter name by same name?14:26
Kilosya that tweet place is us too14:34
Kilosubuntuza14:34
magespawnlater Kilos14:37
Kiloslater magespawn 14:37
Kilosinetpro, where you?14:39
zerefhmmmmm14:46
zerefany ubuntu shops in SA? specifically jhb14:46
tumbleweedno14:47
Symmetriahaha, I was like, ok, wtf is my postgres so damn slow 14:53
Symmetriathen I changed its shared memory settings and its buffer settings and linux's default shared memory settings14:53
Symmetriagod that made a huge difference14:53
Symmetriaand my poor harddrives are thrashing constantly14:53
N8Wulfnevermind15:00
N8WulfI'm off... time for some Series15:04
henkjKilos you want me to be her on the 17th?15:14
Symmetriahrm15:14
Symmetriaanyone got any other ways to optimize postgres15:14
Symmetriabasically, when this application starts, the first thing it does is execute approx. half a million db queries15:14
Symmetria(and infact, at the moment because of the number of data feeds I've got coming into, thats actually almost 2 million queries (half a million per feed)15:15
Symmetriameaning every restart takes 30+ minutes 15:15
Kilosplease henkj 15:18
henkjKilos I will try, could be difficult that day15:18
Kilosand the 18 at 8pm15:19
Kilos18th15:19
henkj18th I probably won't have an internet connection15:19
henkj:(15:19
henkjtravelling to the other side of the country15:20
Kilosaw ok call in when you get back15:21
Kilosor when you can15:21
henkjof course15:21
Kilosty15:21
henkjso what happens during the re-approval thing?15:22
tumbleweedhenkj: I suggest looking at logs of previous re-approval meetings15:22
Kiloswe have to show that we have been active15:22
Kilosthen they vote i think15:22
Kilosty tumbleweed 15:23
tumbleweedhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/TeamApprovalGuidelines15:23
tumbleweedhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/Minutes15:23
henkjtumbleweed all the 2011 links are broken15:27
Symmetriahrm, got postgres up to running 1500 transactions a second on an ubuntu box with 8gigs of ram and an I5 cpu15:27
inetproKilos: I'm here but not for long15:45
* inetpro is moeg15:45
Kilosai15:46
inetpro99% of my day went into unusual adhoc troubleshooting15:46
Kilosdarem tuis inetpro ?15:46
inetpronee nog nie15:46
Kilosai15:46
tumbleweedhenkj: it looks like they need an s/Minutes/Agenda/ in the URL15:57
tumbleweeds/in/on/15:57
Kilosbbnn16:29
Kiloslo mazal 16:38
mazalNaand oom16:39
magespawnhey Kilos16:46
Kiloshey magespawn . me looking at ddrescue now16:47
Kilosscared of them dd things16:47
Kilosthe fly frightened me16:47
magespawnonly cli that, no gui if i recall correctly16:47
magespawnjust need to be careful16:47
magtieHi Kilos16:48
magtieHi Everyone16:48
Kiloslol hiya magtie 16:48
magespawnhey magtie16:50
Kilosi typed in ddrescue -i30GiB -s10GiB /dev/sdb hdimage logfile and it told me its not installed and apt-get install gddrescue16:50
Kilosbut i dunno what to do with logfile16:51
magespawnokay not sure about the commads16:51
magespawnis that not the file that you try to recover the data from16:51
Kilosi dunno16:51
Kilosand must i make one or tell it where it must go or what16:52
Kiloswhew16:52
Kilosmaybe it makes its own logfile16:52
Kiloshehe16:53
Kiloshopefully16:53
magespawni thought ddrescue you specified the file that it comes from, and then goes to16:53
magespawnlet me go look16:53
magespawnbrb16:53
Kilosi got the ddrescue manual so got tons of reading16:53
magespawnaccording to the website the logfile is the recovered data that you can work on, the recovered data in other words16:57
Kilosand it makes it automatically?16:57
Kilosi gotta go eat16:59
Kiloswbb16:59
Kilosrelax magespawn ill read through the manual and come back for help with the serious command16:59
magespawncool but is also good reading for me too17:00
magespawnlater17:02
Kilostrying sudo ddrescue -i0 -s50MiB /dev/sdb  hdimage logfile17:39
Kilosi get i/o errors when trying anything with this drive so maybe that will fix it17:39
Kilossays its splitting failed blocks17:40
Kilosgot no space here to rescue the whole drive17:40
Kilos12 into one dont go17:41
magespawnneed more storage17:44
Kiloslol17:44
Kiloscan never fit it in here17:45
magespawnI am writing a article for the local paper17:45
Kilosmaybe the i/o commands will fix it17:45
magespawni think it can do compression too17:45
Kilossamsung made a booboo with these drives17:45
Kiloslater ones have the firmware patch added17:45
magespawnahh well that happens17:46
Kilosevery time i  tried to install ubuntu it just marked another i/o  sector as bad17:46
magespawndoes sound a bit od17:48
Kilosin the disk utility it shows lots green blogs but by i/o serious red Imminent failure17:48
magespawnodd17:48
Kilosand till i can install something on it i cant do the firmware upgrade17:48
Kilosgrrr17:48
Kilosand ddrescue manual warns you if you stop it it hides the stuff17:52
Kiloseeek17:52
Kilospower please stay on17:52
Kilosyo superfly inetpro 17:53
Kilosoh ya superfly is there a manual for openlp17:53
Kiloseek mage this can take a while18:28
smileAd infinitum :o18:29
Kilosyeah18:30
Kiloshiya smile 18:30
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smile-infinitumhi Kilos :)18:30
smile-infinitumI have an exam tomorrow, for which I need to know latin sentences, and greek sentences too :p18:30
Kiloswhew18:31
smile-infinitumit's not easy :)18:33
Kilosdone one quarter of first commands actions in 1 hour18:35
smile-infinitumgood, Kilos :D18:35
Kilosad infinitum is right18:35
Kilosno man not me ddrescue18:36
smile-infinitumdo you know ad rem? :)18:36
Kilosand 4 commands to run before i can check if there has been any success18:36
Kilosnope18:36
smile-infinitumSwedish house maffia! :D18:48
Kilosi go sleep now. night all. sleep tight19:03
Kilossee ya all morrow19:03
smile-infinitumdon't you worry? :o19:15
smile-infinitumbyeee! :D19:30
magespawnhey Kilos had a quick snooze19:42
magespawnwhoops and is not here19:46
magespawnhe ^19:46
magespawnMaaz tell Kilos had a quick snooze19:47
Maazmagespawn: Sure, I'll tell Kilos on freenode19:47
zerefhmmmm19:56
magespawnah ha20:00
magespawnnight all21:00
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