[05:10] <Squirm> morning
[05:11] <mazal> Morning Squirm 
[05:41] <magespawn> morning all
[05:41] <mazal> Morning magespawn 
[05:42] <magespawn> hey mazal
[05:42] <mazal> How you 
[05:42] <magespawn> good and yourself?
[05:42] <mazal> Good thanx
[05:44] <magespawn> in-laws are coming down next week, and the fish go back with them, so i will have a bit of a break for december
[05:46] <mazal> Fish ?
[05:46] <magespawn> fish=kids
[05:46] <mazal> Ah ok
[05:47] <mazal> You gonna wonder what to do with all your time :)
[05:48] <magespawn> not for the first couple of days, maybe a week
[05:53] <superfly> magespawn: oh yeah... I know EXACTLY what to do with time without the kids.... SLEEP!!!
[05:54] <magespawn> indeed and watch movies without interuption
[05:54] <magespawn> and talk to my wife
[05:54] <Kilos> hi superfly magespawn 
[05:54] <Kilos> and all others
[05:54] <magespawn> that is not inuendo for something else
[05:54] <magespawn> hey Kilos
[05:55] <superfly> magespawn: bwahahaha, I agree!
[05:55] <superfly> peace and quiet... oh golly, what I wouldn't do for a little bit of that
[05:56] <magespawn> we get it once a year since my wifes parents live in the NW
[05:57] <superfly> We don't get it since my parents don't babysit and my wife's parents live halfway across the world
[05:58] <magespawn> that is hectic, everyone needs a bit of a break
[05:59] <superfly> well, #2 is only 4 months old, so when he's older we'll have one of our friends whom we trust take them both for an evening while we enjoy a short break... go to the movies or something :-)
[06:00] <magespawn> wow 4 months already seems like it was yesterday
[06:01] <superfly> maybe for you... for us he's not so little any more. that boy has some serious fat on him. my word is he heavy!
[06:01] <magespawn> i can tell you one thing, from about 3 - 4 years old it does start to become easier
[06:02] <magespawn> hah babies are cool
[06:06] <superfly> when they're not teething
[06:09] <barrydk> Goeie more almal
[06:09] <superfly> morning barrydk
[06:09] <Kilos> hi barrydk 
[06:20] <Kilos> eek
[06:20] <Kilos> For those of you who are going to use newish SAMSUNG HD204UI (2TB F4 EcoGreen 5400rpm) drives in a system, please be aware that you will probably need to patch the firmware on them.
[06:20] <Kilos> stupid thing makes bad blocks when other software tries to get in
[06:23] <magespawn> how did you find that out Kilos?
[06:25] <Kilos> by searching for samsung HD204UI repair tools
[06:26] <Kilos> http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/smartmontools/wiki/SamsungF4EGBadBlocks
[06:27] <magespawn> that is good to know
[06:28] <Kilos> hehe but finding the patch and doing it is another story
[06:32] <Kilos> hi zeref the hmmmer
[06:46] <Kilos> and the patch is in german
[06:46] <Kilos> hi jrgns 
[06:47] <jrgns> morning Kilos
[06:56] <Kilos> and wont boot past initdisk
[06:56] <Kilos> grrr
[06:57] <magespawn> only in German Kilos? maybe time to learn a new language?
[06:58] <Kilos> lol
[06:58] <Kilos> if it could boot all the way in then goosie could help
[07:00] <Kilos> if i get the 2TB fixed im gonna try claim it for meeee
[07:00] <magespawn> can you use .rpm packages in ubuntu?
[07:00] <magespawn> lol
[07:00] <magespawn>  nice Kilos
[07:00] <Kilos> hehe
[07:00] <magespawn> use it for other data recovery?
[07:01] <Kilos> other packages i convert with alien magespawn 
[07:01] <Kilos> it was to try get the drive working
[07:01] <Kilos> so they have already replaced it
[07:01] <magespawn> what is alien Kilos?
[07:02] <Kilos> in repos. it converts rpm and nother one to .deb
[07:02] <Kilos> then no hassles installing
[07:03] <Kilos> why you ask about .rpm magespawn ?
[07:08] <magespawn> FixParts is in .rpm on sourceforge
[07:08] <Kilos> oh no i have the right one
[07:09] <magespawn> where did you get it?
[07:09] <Kilos> ill send it to you
[07:09] <superfly> I would recommend NOT messing with RPMs, because the system they were built on might differ to Ubuntu
[07:09] <Kilos> tiny thing
[07:09] <superfly> s/to/from/
[07:09] <magespawn> okay 
[07:09] <magespawn> i thought .rpm was for suse or redhat
[07:12] <Kilos> ya
[07:12] <Kilos> i think this one was converted by them too with alien
[07:12] <Kilos> its in your mail
[07:15] <magespawn> coo ty Kilos
[07:15] <Kilos> yw
[07:16]  * magespawn is now a pigeon
[07:16] <magespawn> cool ty Kilos
[07:16] <Kilos> hehe
[07:17] <Kilos> pigeons pronk doves cooo
[07:30] <Kilos> morning maiatoday 
[07:31]  * Squirm kicks epoptes
[07:32] <Squirm> it's annoying me :/
[08:40] <charl_> good morning
[08:40] <charl_> Maaz: coffee on
[08:40]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[08:41] <Squirm> Maaz: coffee please
[08:41] <Maaz> Squirm: Yessir
[08:41]  * Squirm goes and makes real coffee
[08:42] <charl_> lol
[08:42] <charl_> Squirm: Maaz's coffee no good? :P
[08:44] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl_ and Squirm!
[08:46] <charl_> Maaz: thanks hey
[08:46] <Maaz> afternoon
[08:46] <charl_> no man it's morning! what is your clock set at, japanese time?! :)
[08:48] <Squirm> charl_: it lacks...
[08:49] <Squirm> a certain something
[08:49] <Squirm> can't quite place my tongue on
[08:49] <Squirm> must be caffeine
[09:10] <Kilos> hehe hi charl_ 
[09:11] <Kilos> and Squirm 
[09:11] <Squirm> hello Kilos 
[09:11] <Kilos> forget if i greeted the worm
[09:11] <Kilos> it is a worm that squirms hey?
[09:30] <magespawn> other things too Kilos
[09:30] <Kilos> aw hope i didnt upset squirmy
[09:35] <Kilos> hi psydroid 
[09:36] <psydroid> hi Kilos
[09:52] <Squirm> Kilos: no, but you've lost me
[09:52] <Kilos> ?
[09:52] <Squirm> .:Kilos:. forget if i greeted the worm
[09:52] <Squirm> .:Kilos:. it is a worm that squirms hey?
[09:52] <Squirm> .:magespawn:. other things too Kilos
[09:52] <Squirm> .:Kilos:. aw hope i didnt upset squirmy
[09:53] <Kilos> immeant how did i lose you
[09:54] <Kilos> as in you didnt understand?
[10:17] <Squirm> I didn't understand any of what you said
[10:24] <Kilos> hi Trixar_za 
[10:24] <Trixar_za> Hey Kilos
[10:26] <Trixar_za> https://github.com/neutronscott/bash-irc/ <--- that is interesting
[10:56] <Kilos> i go see
[10:56] <Kilos> na man same as irssi
[10:57] <Kilos> xchat is my cuppa tea
[10:57] <Kilos> less thinking needed
[10:59] <Trixar_za> Yeah, but it's awesome because it was written completely in bash :P
[11:02] <Kilos> ok
[11:02] <Kilos> only bashing around here is my head
[11:03] <Trixar_za> It's the most popular cli shell and scripting language for Linux
[11:03] <charl_> hi Kilos 
[11:03] <Trixar_za> You're probably using it right now
[11:03] <charl_> sorry just came out of a meeting
[11:04] <Trixar_za> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bash_%28Unix_shell%29
[11:04] <Kilos> hi charl_ 
[11:08] <charl_> it's a cute side project, not something that most people would ever use
[11:08] <charl_> but nice as a proof-of-concept
[11:08] <charl_> here's an interesting question for you geeks
[11:09] <charl_> what is your favourite (graphical - excluding emacs and vim in other words) code editor on *nix?
[11:09] <charl_> currently i am using kdevelop (when i'm not just using vim that is)
[11:12] <Trixar_za> I tend to use geany myself
[11:13] <Trixar_za> and nano if I'm using a shell
[11:13] <Trixar_za> :P
[11:14] <Trixar_za> http://www.geany.org/
[11:18] <Trixar_za> Best lightweight IDE there is that isn't bolted to any one Desktop Environment
[11:18] <Trixar_za> Although I hear people on KDE recommends using KATE
[12:04] <magespawn> gedit and nano for me
[12:04] <magespawn> Notepad++ on the other os
[12:05] <Trixar_za> Same
[12:05] <Trixar_za> Notepad++ rocks
[12:05] <Trixar_za> :P
[12:05] <magespawn> but not too fixated on any one really
[12:06] <Trixar_za> Only reason I switched away from gedit is because it's bolted into GNOME
[12:19] <Kilos> hi Henk_ 
[12:19] <Henk_> hi Kilos 
[12:22] <Kilos> hi TheM4ch1n3 
[12:36] <superfly> kate is really awesome... and I just want that Python plugin for KDevelop to finally make it into KDevelop, or at least into the repos
[12:45] <mazal> Bye for now all
[13:13] <Symmetria> ugh
[13:13] <Symmetria> remind me to do a local mirror of the ubuntu archives at home, network installing servers over dsl really sucks
[13:32] <Kilos> when Symmetria ? when you want the reminder thats is
[13:33] <Symmetria> haha that was rhetorical
[13:33] <Symmetria> :p
[13:34] <Kilos> hehe
[13:36] <henkj> Kilos I thought you were a bot that greets people
[13:36] <henkj> lol
[13:38] <Vince-0> Haai
[13:40] <Kilos> hi Vince-0 
[13:40] <Kilos> henkj, i am
[13:40] <Vince-0> Hey, Kilos - can I ask for any of my LUG peeps to join here during our online meet on Thursday?
[13:41] <Kilos> yes
[13:41] <Vince-0> I plan a Google hangout simultaneously
[13:41] <Vince-0> Sweet! Thurs eve at 8, if anyone pitches
[13:42] <Vince-0> I want to do it regularly
[13:43] <Kilos> ok as long as they follow our code of conduct
[13:43] <Kilos> no bad language etc
[13:43] <Kilos> we have ladies present
[13:44] <Kilos> henkj, also the reminder bot and discipline bot
[13:45] <henkj> Kilos aren't you too slow to be a bot?
[13:46] <Kilos> im an old bot
[13:46] <Vince-0> Ha
[13:47] <Vince-0> Ok, ill put notes for code of conduct
[13:47] <Vince-0> Thanks
[13:48] <Kilos> ty Vince-0  and if you like just tell each one that joins here to introduce them selves and give a brief summary of what os they use and what they do 
[13:48] <Vince-0> I dont expect much participation but it might grow if I do it regularly
[13:48] <Kilos> once 1 or 2 come others will hear about the best irc channel
[13:50] <Vince-0> Yes, will do intros
[13:56] <magespawn> Kilos I found this too http://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/download.html#obs
[13:58] <Kilos> ty magespawn  will go see
[13:58] <Kilos> hi N8Wulf 
[13:58] <N8Wulf> Hi All
[13:58] <N8Wulf> hi Kilos
[13:58] <Kilos> first time here N8Wulf ?
[13:59] <Vince-0> Ok see y'all laters
[13:59] <N8Wulf> finally December, can you believe it's the 1st chance I get this whole year to logon onto IRQ
[13:59] <Kilos> thats bad
[14:00] <N8Wulf> I've been on here quite a bit last year, helped a bit and learned a lot
[14:00] <Kilos> same nick?
[14:00] <Kilos> i forgot
[14:00] <N8Wulf> same Nick yes, been mine for about 12 years now
[14:01] <N8Wulf> but time... eish
[14:01] <Kilos> maybe i was sleepin
[14:02] <N8Wulf> nah... was able to help only here and there, did quite a bit before unity etc. old G2 and Compiz issues I assisted ppl with.. had similar troubles
[14:03] <Kilos> ah thats good. i just forget. i love G2 as you call it
[14:03] <Kilos> still run maverick on one pc
[14:04] <N8Wulf> me too, tried G3, missed my Cube and wobblies, then tried Unity, mix this and then, messed it up after I couldn't do updates for about a month
[14:05] <N8Wulf> my G3 was so confused I ended up installing Unity yesterday
[14:05] <Kilos> oh i actually am getting used to unity and kde as well
[14:05] <N8Wulf> could get my G3 to work in No Effects mode only
[14:06] <N8Wulf> kde... pretty but resource hungry
[14:06] <Kilos> not worse than unity
[14:06] <Kilos> or close anyway
[14:08] <N8Wulf> suppose... cant wait for touch screen prices to drop so I can have proper use of Unity
[14:09] <N8Wulf> I'm a big fan of all things Android
[14:09] <N8Wulf> so Unity reminds me of this
[14:12] <Kilos> hehe
[14:13] <Kilos> hey we having our monthly meeting on the 17th and the 18th is our reapproval thing. try be here if you can
[14:13] <Kilos> http://bit.ly/WtOUPl
[14:16] <Kilos> you too please henkj 
[14:17] <N8Wulf> "reapproval" ?
[14:17] <N8Wulf> RTFM
[14:17] <N8Wulf> nevermind
[14:19] <N8Wulf> "More non-geeky users at events"
[14:19] <N8Wulf> I think I need to go to an event and take my wife with... she is a Disciple of Ubuntu any and every day
[14:20] <Kilos> great
[14:20] <Kilos> ya the loco has to be reapproved every 2 years
[14:21] <N8Wulf> I've personally converted a couple of clients (and even Tannie Sus by Reception) to using some ubuntu flav. 
[14:21] <N8Wulf> oh and more than one business partner
[14:22] <N8Wulf> ubuntu-za twitter by the same user?
[14:26] <N8Wulf> Kilos: ubuntu-za twitter name by same name?
[14:34] <Kilos> ya that tweet place is us too
[14:34] <Kilos> ubuntuza
[14:37] <magespawn> later Kilos
[14:37] <Kilos> later magespawn 
[14:39] <Kilos> inetpro, where you?
[14:46] <zeref> hmmmmm
[14:46] <zeref> any ubuntu shops in SA? specifically jhb
[14:47] <tumbleweed> no
[14:53] <Symmetria> haha, I was like, ok, wtf is my postgres so damn slow 
[14:53] <Symmetria> then I changed its shared memory settings and its buffer settings and linux's default shared memory settings
[14:53] <Symmetria> god that made a huge difference
[14:53] <Symmetria> and my poor harddrives are thrashing constantly
[15:00] <N8Wulf> nevermind
[15:04] <N8Wulf> I'm off... time for some Series
[15:14] <henkj> Kilos you want me to be her on the 17th?
[15:14] <Symmetria> hrm
[15:14] <Symmetria> anyone got any other ways to optimize postgres
[15:14] <Symmetria> basically, when this application starts, the first thing it does is execute approx. half a million db queries
[15:15] <Symmetria> (and infact, at the moment because of the number of data feeds I've got coming into, thats actually almost 2 million queries (half a million per feed)
[15:15] <Symmetria> meaning every restart takes 30+ minutes 
[15:18] <Kilos> please henkj 
[15:18] <henkj> Kilos I will try, could be difficult that day
[15:19] <Kilos> and the 18 at 8pm
[15:19] <Kilos> 18th
[15:19] <henkj> 18th I probably won't have an internet connection
[15:19] <henkj> :(
[15:20] <henkj> travelling to the other side of the country
[15:21] <Kilos> aw ok call in when you get back
[15:21] <Kilos> or when you can
[15:21] <henkj> of course
[15:21] <Kilos> ty
[15:22] <henkj> so what happens during the re-approval thing?
[15:22] <tumbleweed> henkj: I suggest looking at logs of previous re-approval meetings
[15:22] <Kilos> we have to show that we have been active
[15:22] <Kilos> then they vote i think
[15:23] <Kilos> ty tumbleweed 
[15:23] <tumbleweed> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/TeamApprovalGuidelines
[15:23] <tumbleweed> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/Minutes
[15:27] <henkj> tumbleweed all the 2011 links are broken
[15:27] <Symmetria> hrm, got postgres up to running 1500 transactions a second on an ubuntu box with 8gigs of ram and an I5 cpu
[15:45] <inetpro> Kilos: I'm here but not for long
[15:45]  * inetpro is moeg
[15:46] <Kilos> ai
[15:46] <inetpro> 99% of my day went into unusual adhoc troubleshooting
[15:46] <Kilos> darem tuis inetpro ?
[15:46] <inetpro> nee nog nie
[15:46] <Kilos> ai
[15:57] <tumbleweed> henkj: it looks like they need an s/Minutes/Agenda/ in the URL
[15:57] <tumbleweed> s/in/on/
[16:29] <Kilos> bbnn
[16:38] <Kilos> lo mazal 
[16:39] <mazal> Naand oom
[16:46] <magespawn> hey Kilos
[16:47] <Kilos> hey magespawn . me looking at ddrescue now
[16:47] <Kilos> scared of them dd things
[16:47] <Kilos> the fly frightened me
[16:47] <magespawn> only cli that, no gui if i recall correctly
[16:47] <magespawn> just need to be careful
[16:48] <magtie> Hi Kilos
[16:48] <magtie> Hi Everyone
[16:48] <Kilos> lol hiya magtie 
[16:50] <magespawn> hey magtie
[16:50] <Kilos> i typed in ddrescue -i30GiB -s10GiB /dev/sdb hdimage logfile and it told me its not installed and apt-get install gddrescue
[16:51] <Kilos> but i dunno what to do with logfile
[16:51] <magespawn> okay not sure about the commads
[16:51] <magespawn> is that not the file that you try to recover the data from
[16:51] <Kilos> i dunno
[16:52] <Kilos> and must i make one or tell it where it must go or what
[16:52] <Kilos> whew
[16:52] <Kilos> maybe it makes its own logfile
[16:53] <Kilos> hehe
[16:53] <Kilos> hopefully
[16:53] <magespawn> i thought ddrescue you specified the file that it comes from, and then goes to
[16:53] <magespawn> let me go look
[16:53] <magespawn> brb
[16:53] <Kilos> i got the ddrescue manual so got tons of reading
[16:57] <magespawn> according to the website the logfile is the recovered data that you can work on, the recovered data in other words
[16:57] <Kilos> and it makes it automatically?
[16:59] <Kilos> i gotta go eat
[16:59] <Kilos> wbb
[16:59] <Kilos> relax magespawn ill read through the manual and come back for help with the serious command
[17:00] <magespawn> cool but is also good reading for me too
[17:02] <magespawn> later
[17:39] <Kilos> trying sudo ddrescue -i0 -s50MiB /dev/sdb  hdimage logfile
[17:39] <Kilos> i get i/o errors when trying anything with this drive so maybe that will fix it
[17:40] <Kilos> says its splitting failed blocks
[17:40] <Kilos> got no space here to rescue the whole drive
[17:41] <Kilos> 12 into one dont go
[17:44] <magespawn> need more storage
[17:44] <Kilos> lol
[17:45] <Kilos> can never fit it in here
[17:45] <magespawn> I am writing a article for the local paper
[17:45] <Kilos> maybe the i/o commands will fix it
[17:45] <magespawn> i think it can do compression too
[17:45] <Kilos> samsung made a booboo with these drives
[17:45] <Kilos> later ones have the firmware patch added
[17:46] <magespawn> ahh well that happens
[17:46] <Kilos> every time i  tried to install ubuntu it just marked another i/o  sector as bad
[17:48] <magespawn> does sound a bit od
[17:48] <Kilos> in the disk utility it shows lots green blogs but by i/o serious red Imminent failure
[17:48] <magespawn> odd
[17:48] <Kilos> and till i can install something on it i cant do the firmware upgrade
[17:48] <Kilos> grrr
[17:52] <Kilos> and ddrescue manual warns you if you stop it it hides the stuff
[17:52] <Kilos> eeek
[17:52] <Kilos> power please stay on
[17:53] <Kilos> yo superfly inetpro 
[17:53] <Kilos> oh ya superfly is there a manual for openlp
[18:28] <Kilos> eek mage this can take a while
[18:29] <smile> Ad infinitum :o
[18:30] <Kilos> yeah
[18:30] <Kilos> hiya smile 
[18:30] <smile-infinitum> hi Kilos :)
[18:30] <smile-infinitum> I have an exam tomorrow, for which I need to know latin sentences, and greek sentences too :p
[18:31] <Kilos> whew
[18:33] <smile-infinitum> it's not easy :)
[18:35] <Kilos> done one quarter of first commands actions in 1 hour
[18:35] <smile-infinitum> good, Kilos :D
[18:35] <Kilos> ad infinitum is right
[18:36] <Kilos> no man not me ddrescue
[18:36] <smile-infinitum> do you know ad rem? :)
[18:36] <Kilos> and 4 commands to run before i can check if there has been any success
[18:36] <Kilos> nope
[18:48] <smile-infinitum> Swedish house maffia! :D
[19:03] <Kilos> i go sleep now. night all. sleep tight
[19:03] <Kilos> see ya all morrow
[19:15] <smile-infinitum> don't you worry? :o
[19:30] <smile-infinitum> byeee! :D
[19:42] <magespawn> hey Kilos had a quick snooze
[19:46] <magespawn> whoops and is not here
[19:46] <magespawn> he ^
[19:47] <magespawn> Maaz tell Kilos had a quick snooze
[19:47] <Maaz> magespawn: Sure, I'll tell Kilos on freenode
[19:56] <zeref> hmmmm
[20:00] <magespawn> ah ha
[21:00] <magespawn> night all