[01:20] <sajan> If I wanted to deploy Xubuntu on a Workstation that multiple users will be using.  What's the best way for me to edit the default settings for new users?  Specifically, default panel items and theme.  Thanks.
[01:24] <GridCube> sajan, it depends on your need
[01:24] <GridCube> s
[01:25] <GridCube> what kind of users would that be? what level of liberty you want to provide for the users?
[01:26] <sajan> GridCube, just normal users.  No administrative rights.  Really just for internet browsing, Thunderbird, and LibreOffice use.  I just want to set the default panel items for each user with all the apps that'll be needed so they don't have to.
[01:27] <GridCube> sajan, all your users will have individual accounts?
[01:27] <sajan> GridCube, correct.  Mainly so each user can setup their own mail accounts in Thunderbird, settings/addons in firefox, manage their own documents with a unique /home folder.
[01:28] <GridCube> and you want to give them the liberty to change the themes and desktop background as well?
[01:29] <sajan> Yeah.  They can change them if they want.  However since none of these users will know what Linux is or what do to or look for in xfce, I want the default panel items in a way where they can just see the Firefox icon on the Desktop and get going without fiddling around too much.
[01:31] <GridCube> ok, so, what you need to do is edit the panels for any user until they end up as you will like them to, editing panels its as easy as going right clic > panel >edit panel, once you get your set up the way you want it to look like you procede to copy ~/.config/xfce4/* to all the users ~/.config/xfce4/
[01:32] <GridCube> if you want to "lock" the panels so the users dont accidently delete a launcher you can make the files on ~/.config/xfce4/panel read only
[01:33] <GridCube> this will make that everytime they relogin the panels will look exactly the same, but theming and wallpaper will be able to change
[01:34] <sajan> GridCube, cool.  Thanks.  Looking through that directory, that certainly should work.  That's actually dead simple.  I could go through my own home dir and find other conf files to copy over as well.  Might only need a few tweaks.  Perhaps a find/replace of my username with the new username after copy.  Could script it as well.
[01:35] <sajan> GridCube, thanks much.
[01:36] <GridCube> sajan, no problem and good luck :)
[02:11] <xubuntu125> Hi Guys,
[02:11] <xubuntu125> could somebody help me in 'automounting' Xubuntu 12.10,
[02:11] <xubuntu125> ?
[02:14] <nikolam> xubuntu125, what do you need to automount?
[02:14] <xubuntu125> USB, CD, DVD.
[02:14] <nikolam> all mount points are in /etc/fstab
[02:15] <nikolam> and thunar mounts them by default on inserting
[02:15] <xubuntu125> It appears in Thunar's sidebar, but unmounted by default.
[02:15] <xubuntu125> I've checked the
[02:15] <xubuntu125> Removable Drives and Media options
[02:15] <xubuntu125> all of the needed are checked out.
[02:15] <xubuntu125> Automounts works perfectly in 12.04
[02:16] <xubuntu125> but in 12.10 - in my case is broken.
[02:18] <xubuntu125> Otherwise I've got only /etc/fstab.d
[02:18] <xubuntu125> It's a freshly installed system with all of the updates.
[02:18] <xubuntu125> Thunar 1.6.0
[02:18] <nikolam> hm, i think i also needed linkein /etc/fstab to mount dvds, eve i installed from cd
[02:19] <xubuntu125> What shuold I do? Create /etc/fstab?
[02:20] <xubuntu125> Why doesn't it existing by default?
[02:21] <nikolam> no idea, i installed 12.10 64-bit and it was there i think.
[02:21] <nikolam> i just added dvd line
[02:22] <xubuntu125> dvd 'line'? In a config file somewhere?
[02:22] <xubuntu125> Or is it a directory?
[02:22] <xubuntu125> fstab.d is empty on my system, but an USB disk is mounted.
[02:22] <nikolam> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab
[02:22] <nikolam> i think it is just /etc/fstab file
[02:23] <nikolam> but i installed using Btrfs.. what did you choosed?
[02:23] <xubuntu125> Btrfs? I don't know what is it sorry...
[02:24] <xubuntu125> I'm checking fstab right now on my laptop,
[02:25] <xubuntu125> automounting works great in 12.04 on it.
[02:26] <nikolam> all anwers are on wikipedia mostly :) does help.ubuntu.com search in community contributed docs works for you?
[02:26] <xubuntu125> It's interesting. There is no /etc/fstab directory on my laptop...
[02:27] <xubuntu125> I did not checked those docs, I posted this problem to Xfce forum,
[02:27] <xubuntu125> but nobody answered yet...
[02:27] <xubuntu125> Are you on xubuntu BTW?
[02:28] <xubuntu125> OK, I see what You say, sorry - so fstab is a config file.
[02:28] <xubuntu125> I've got it.
[02:29] <xubuntu125> (I've thought it's a directory sorry)
[02:29] <nikolam> :)
[02:30] <xubuntu125> On my laptop (12.04) it contains the ext4 partition and the swap only.
[02:31] <xubuntu125> It is the same content as on 12.10
[02:31] <xubuntu125> Any idea?
[02:32] <nikolam> /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 0
[02:34] <nikolam> I found this, looks nice: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Quantal
[02:35] <xubuntu125> :-) Thanks - it's a bit too generic to resolve my problem I think.
[02:35] <xubuntu125> What system are you on? Xubuntu? Version?
[02:35] <nikolam> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB
[02:35] <xubuntu125> What system are you on? Xubuntu? Version?
[02:36] <nikolam> i use 12.04 xubuntu in vbox, i amd just re-installing xubuntu 12.10 on 32bit old machine and I generally use Xubuntu 64-bit for 6+ years on my desktops.
[02:37] <xubuntu125> Interesting... If mounting depends on fstab, how is it possible the file contains the same in 12.04 and 12.10,
[02:37] <xubuntu125> but automounting works in 12.04 and does not on 12.10???
[02:39] <nikolam> I am old user and this are modern times :)
[02:39] <xubuntu125> :-DD
[02:39] <nikolam> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB
[02:40] <nikolam> pls check if searching inside help.ubuntu.com works for you. here it does not Atm.
[02:41] <xubuntu125> OK, thank You nikolam, see you later (maybe). :-)
[02:41] <xubuntu125> Bye!!!
[03:09] <xubuntu186> hi
[06:22] <Guest98678> hi, i ve installed xubuntu 12.04 on a usb pen drive but system dont boot. i cant even enter bios, any idea?
[06:58] <kalon> Guest98678: I think you're stuck if you can't get into the bios to change boot settings.
[07:00] <kalon> If you're willing to take the harddrive out and install using another computer and then putting it back in to the original that should work.
[08:09] <wavm> has ne1 playing guildwars2 on xubuntu 12.04 with wine 1.4
[08:31] <wavm> xubuntu rocks!
[09:13] <Stefan__> Hi everyone, I'm new to Xubuntu, and I have a problem with my wireless card, a Broadcom 4312 that isn't recognized by the system. Would anyone have any idea on how I'd be able to fix that, with the addition that I don't have ethernet access on the Xubuntu laptop?
[09:13] <Stefan__> Thanks in advance!
[09:14] <Stefan__> I've already tried several solutions provided on various websites, nothing seems to stick.
[09:46] <frogman1984> cant help, sorry ... :-(
[09:49] <Stefan__> Thanks, that's okay. I hope someone sees this and they know what I could do.
[09:50] <Unit193> Stefan__: Tried https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#b43_-_No_Internet_access ?
[10:22] <Stefan__> Unit193, thanks a lot. I tried it, it has worked so far. But now I will reboot and see if it keeps (last few solutions only lasted until I rebooted, which is when the system once again forgot about the existence of a wireless card).
[10:25] <Stefan__> Unit193, just rebooted and I still have Wi-Fi. I can't thank you enough!
[10:48] <Unit193> Sure thing!  I have a card that needs that driver, used that method once.  (That links to an older driver, but works fine)
[11:26] <Sven_vB> hi
[11:30] <frogman1984> hi
[11:30] <Sven_vB> how can i get a bluetooth icon into my panel on Ubuntu 12.04.1 (pecise)? bluez is installed. on another system where the applet works, "man bluetooth-applet" shows "bluez-gnome" in the lower left, an a package by that name is mentioned on the Ubuntu Users Wiki. however, neither system can find a package with that name.
[11:32] <Sven_vB> are there more ways than man to find from where that bluetooth-applet binary originated?
[11:34] <TheSheep> dpkg -S
[11:37] <Sven_vB> thanks
[11:40] <Sven_vB> (for the log: the package is gnome-bluetooth)
[12:48] <aztak> so - Is there a reliable way to set the default web-browser to Chrome in XUbuntu? It keeps asking for which browser to use, and Chrome keeps asking me if I want it as the default browser.
[12:50] <GridCube> aztak, launch exo-preferred-applications
[12:54] <aztak> that's the same as the one in the 'settings manager'? I've tried setting it there, but it won't persist. I'll give it another try though, thanks :)
[12:55] <GridCube> i see, let me do some research
[13:05] <GridCube> aztak, go to ~/.config/xfce4 and open the file named helpers.rc
[13:05] <GridCube> see if the it to say WebBrowser=chromium-browser or what ever you need
[13:07] <aztak> it says "custom-WebBrowser"
[13:07] <aztak> GridCube: should it be the full path to the browser, or is it an alias of some sort?
[13:08] <GridCube> the way you launch it from a terminal
[13:08] <aztak> GridCube: ok, so
[13:08] <aztak> 'google-chrome
[13:08] <aztak>  then. I'll give it a try :)
[13:17] <killer> how do i move the close button  on right to the left (like in ubuntu  unity and macs)
[13:19] <GridCube> aztak, how did it go?
[13:22] <aztak> GridCube: I set the WebBrowser to 'google-chrome', but it still asks for which web-browser to use :/ I can't restart xfce right now - I'll try that later though. Thanks for the help :)
[13:23] <GridCube> aztak, say to chrome "no" and "dont ask anymore" and set it up by the helpers.rc
[13:25] <GridCube> obviously chrome doesnt understand xfce
[13:47] <killer> when i right click on desktop, it takes about 3-4 seconds to show the right click menu(there is no such issue in any other DE installed on my system)
[13:49] <TheSheep> killer: add a menu to the panel
[13:49] <TheSheep> killer: I noticed that the menu you get by clicking on desktop doesn't update the cache if there is no menu applet on the panel
[13:51] <killer> the menu is there by default in xubuntu's panel
[14:52] <cereal> so I've got 3 monitors (laptop and 2 external) and some reason the laptop always shows the menu on it, anyway I can tell it to prefer another monitor when I'm in the office?
[15:29] <c2tarun> hi friends is there any app in xubuntu that can notify my on incoming mail (by a notification icon in tray icons and a notification sound). I don't want to use any email client, they are too heavy and I like Gmail's web interface.
[15:51] <holstein> c2tarun: i use a plugin in the browser
[15:51] <TheSheep> c2tarun: pidgin can do that
[15:53] <c2tarun> holstein, what plugin?
[15:53] <c2tarun> TheSheep, pidgin stores password in plain text format :( thats kind of creepy
[15:53] <holstein> c2tarun: a gmail notifier.. there are quite a few with different functionalities
[15:54] <holstein> Simooon: you should keep in mind that if you are asking an application to check and tell you you have email, it will need your credentials
[15:54] <holstein> Simooon: sorry... c2tarun ^^
[15:54] <Simooon> holstein, ok then :-P
[15:57] <c2tarun> holstein, yeah that is obvious, but saving them in plain text format in home folder is bit risky. Anyway what browser plugin you were talking about? Is it for chrome or firefox?
[15:58] <holstein> c2tarun: i tried quite a few for both.. there are plenty.. i have one in chrome i use thats literally named "google mail checker" ...it makes no sounds or popups, which is what i want.. but there were lots of other options
[15:59] <TheSheep> c2tarun: I don't know, mine uses a keyring
[15:59] <c2tarun> TheSheep, check ~/.purple/accounts.xml
[16:00] <holstein> c2tarun: perhaps an opinion video such as http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJpx8_nDVAc would be helpful
[16:00] <TheSheep> c2tarun: ouch
[16:00] <c2tarun> TheSheep, got it? ;)
[16:01] <holstein> its a trade off for sure... for something to be able to check, it'll need the password
[16:02] <c2tarun> holstein, the chrome one will also work in chromium I guess!!
[16:03] <holstein> c2tarun: sure.. it did when i tested.. but i mention it as more of an exmaple of the one you dont want..
[16:03] <c2tarun> holstein, ohh... :P sorry but still I want to try it.
[16:04] <blackgatonegro> the main difference of chromium and chrome, is that chromium is stuck with the accident flash for linux, and chromium has a lite less of spyware
[16:04] <holstein> c2tarun: you can.. its just nothing like what you have mentioned you are interested in, which is why i mentioned it.. but you might consider trading off ease-of-use/functionality for security, and just "check your mail" over ssl or whatever makes you feel safe
[16:05] <blackgatonegro> here is it: http://ppa.launchpad.net/a-v-shkop/chromium/ubuntu/
[16:05] <c2tarun> holstein, hmm... I think you're right, I'll use emesene it also tells about unread mail. :)
[16:06] <TheSheep> holstein: it's a "feature" that makes me go back to gajim
[16:08] <holstein> blackgatonegro: chromium is in the repos.. sudo apt-get install chromium-browser ...chrome cannot be included in the repos
[16:12] <blackgatonegro> holstein, I just linked a chomiun repo
[16:13] <blackgatonegro> the ubuntu one is always a few versions behind
[16:14] <holstein> https://launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/stable is usually what i refer to
[16:18] <blackgatonegro> http://ppa.launchpad.net/a-v-shkop/chromium/ubuntu/ is a lil bit more stable since they actually test it
[16:18] <blackgatonegro> but I guess is a preference thing
[17:32] <cbearden> Is it possible to disable Xubuntu notifications, e.g. when an email arrives or someone IMs me?
[17:32] <cbearden> Or maybe there's a way to keep them from stealing the focus when I'm typing?
, yuou can set the time to one second, if that helps
, that way they will fade away fast
 Thanks for the suggestion; the problem is, they often grab focus while I'm coding, or composing an email, or entering a password; even grabbing the focus for a second can be a problem.
 I'll give that a try, but so far they are more nuisance than help for me.
, the only other way I know is using a program that goes fullscreen so you don't see them
 but setting the time to one second really helps
 I'll give that a try, thanks. Perhaps no one else has this problem.
[17:55] <w30> cbearden, ha, my window focus problems always make me type my superuser password into xchat, DUH!
 It hasn't gotten quite that bad for me yet, but your message to me raised a notification that stole some characters from some code I was entering.
[17:57] <blackgatonegro> you should change your password like, right now
[17:57] <w30> blackgatonegro, *sigh* I did
 <w30> Do you use "Focus follows mouse" or "Click to focus"? I wonder if this makes a difference, since so few others complain about notifications stealing focus.
[17:58] <blackgatonegro> maybe you could ya know, LOOK before you type your password?
[17:58] <blackgatonegro> or use such an ugly xchat theme there is no way you could get confused
[17:59] <cbearden> For me, the focus is stolen instantly in the middle of my typing.
[18:00] <w30> blackgatonegro, my problem is recognizing where the focus actually is depending on various clues that vary, maybe I need a more flashy flashing cursor
, again try full screen mode, notification don't apear that way
[18:04] <cbearden> blackgatonegro w30 I typically switch between 3 or 4 windows (xfce4-terminal, gvim, thunderbird, eclipse).
[18:05] <blackgatonegro> I think there is a way for all screens to be full screen and just switch them with a key
[18:05] <cbearden> Hmm
[18:05] <cbearden> blackgatonegro w30 Do either of you use "Focus follows mouse"-style focus?
[18:06] <blackgatonegro> nope
[18:06] <blackgatonegro> but again but one second notification is usually does not bug me
[18:07] <cbearden> Thanks.
[18:08] <w30> cbearden, I tried that but again when I  keyboard and mouse from the same physical desk my elbow will make the mouse scurry about like a cat was after it.
[18:09] <cbearden> w30 Thanks; I was just wondering if my notification focus problems were due to my own odd predilection for "Focus follows mouse"; now I know that's not the problem.
[18:09] <cbearden> I'm going to try disabling "Automatically give focus to newly created windows"; maybe that will help.
[18:11] <w30> cbearden, yeah
[18:13] <w30> does any one have a way to get rid of the popups on the desktop when one hoovers over an icon?
[18:13] <w30> type, size, modified stuff
[18:14] <blackgatonegro> here you do: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1410797/
[18:14] <blackgatonegro> that disables notifications in xubuntu
[18:15] <cbearden> blackgatonegro Nice find!
[18:15] <w30> blackgatonegro, thanks
[18:40] <Catbuntu> hey
[18:48] <w30> when I upgraded to 12.10 my compiz got replaced with an abbreviated version, how do I get the full version back with cube cap images  for one thing? for one
[18:49] <holstein> w30: i would expect breakage as the project moves forward to driving unity
[18:50] <w30> holstein, does that mean I should look for a different distribution?
[18:52] <w30> holstein, I abandoned Ubuntu because of Unity, so I need to abandon Xubuntu too?
[18:52] <holstein> w30: i didnt say nor imply that.. im just saying, the focus of compiz is for unity right now.. and xubuntu *is* ubuntu
[18:53] <holstein> w30: xubuntu doesnt ship with compiz by default so it can be challenging since you are on your own kind of as far as config
[18:53] <holstein> w30: i would just stay on the LTS and enjoy the remaining cubes and fire.. i miss it, but the days of cubes and fire are over
[18:54] <w30> anyone have a link to a compiz .deb that is not wrecked by the Unity Zealots?
[18:55] <holstein> w30: you mean the unity dev team? i dont think they are directly editing compiz.. when i tested in 12.04, i was able to get it sorted out just fine
[18:55] <holstein> w30: you can always go right to the compiz source and make it however you like. i wouldnt expect a drop in .deb that will "just work" and give you oler functionality like in gnome2 for XFCE
[18:55] <knome> compiz has never been officially supported on xubuntu
[18:56] <holstein> yeah... thats the challenge.. its just not made to directly mate up with it in the first place
[18:57] <holstein> and its going to get less able to mate up easily...
[18:57] <holstein> w30: i know its challenging.. but i can say, i let the cubes and fire go, and all is well :)
[18:58] <w30> w30 whimpers and whines; But, I don't want to give up my cube eye candy......
[19:36] <w30> holstein, Do you do emotional cyber therapy? w30 needs an appointment.
[19:37] <knome> w30, you can join #xubuntu-offtopic for witty comments.
[20:34] <Hprmedina> Installing... XUBUNTU!!! :P
[20:45] <phunyguy_work> http://xubuntu.org/news/faq-1210-quantal-quetzal/  - pertaining to the messaging menu, what were the "constraints"?
[20:45] <phunyguy_work> just curious
[20:45] <knome> gtk3 vs gtk2.
[20:46] <phunyguy_work> ahh.  makes sense.
[20:46] <phunyguy_work> thanks
[20:46] <phunyguy_work> ...will it be back?
[20:47] <knome> at some point, most probably
[20:52] <phunyguy_work> so how does one get notifications? Rely on the application's individual tray icon?
[20:52] <phunyguy_work> (if it exists)
[20:53] <knome> every application must do the calls for notifications alone usually
[20:53] <phunyguy_work> Yeah I meant in the long term.
[20:53] <phunyguy_work> like the messaging menu envelope turning blue
[20:53] <knome> there are exceptions, like the update notifications, where the panel applet simply checks if there are updates itself (afaik)
[20:54] <knome> there's an API for the applications for that afaik
[20:54] <phunyguy_work> yeah thats ok, I was strictly referring to messaging apps
[21:01] <phunyguy_work> I'll ask here, since there isn't as much "clutter" as #ubuntu, and Firefox is in Xubuntu as well... Spell Checker keeps correcting my American English and giving me British spellings.  Like "defense", it wants me to put "defence".  What is going on here?
[21:02] <phunyguy_work> XChat tells me "defence" is wrong while "defense" is correct.  That is working as intended.
[21:05] <phunyguy_work> nevermind.  I think I fixeded it.
[21:13] <crond> PhantorGorth, American English is just wrong.
[21:13] <crond> that's all.
[21:32] <XRS1> any one else having problems with 12.04 / 12.10 stalling during LAN file transfers?
[21:32] <XRS1> transfers stall & wont cancel*
[23:00] <puff> Evening.