| yofel | ScottK: https://www-admin.kubuntu.org/kde-sc-4.9.4 - the announcement link is still dead though. | 00:02 |
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| simplew | Riddell: i was told that wireshark has a qt ui but theres no suchk package in ubuntu | 00:03 |
| simplew | crap, wrong channel again | 00:03 |
| simplew | Riddell: but yes, wireshark has a qt ui, would it be possible to package it? | 00:23 |
| micahg | simplew: is it in the same tree or a separate project? | 00:33 |
| simplew | micahg: same source, in which uses cmake | 00:34 |
| micahg | simplew: maybe file a bug in Debian? | 00:34 |
| simplew | micahg: ? | 00:34 |
| micahg | is it an optional build flag or something? | 00:35 |
| simplew | http://anonsvn.wireshark.org/viewvc/trunk/CMakeLists.txt?revision=46147&view=markup | 00:35 |
| micahg | simplew: if it's in the same tree, I'd suggest speaking with the Debian maintainer or filing a wishlist bug (reportbug -Bdebian wireshark) | 00:37 |
| micahg | I'm not sure there's an easy solution though as it looks like it needs to be a separate build (which Debian probably won't go for as it's already a security sensitive pacakge) | 00:38 |
| simplew | micahg: you have there the urk, you can see it yourself | 00:38 |
| simplew | micahg: it can be done in a single build | 00:39 |
| micahg | ah, ok, wishlist bug in Debian is your best bet then | 00:39 |
| simplew | micahg: well im packaging it already | 00:40 |
| simplew | micahg: at least will be available in my ppa | 00:40 |
| micahg | simplew: wireshark is already packaged, we're not going to have 2 in Ubuntu, and we're in sync with Debian on this | 00:40 |
| simplew | and its not 2, its for 2 different GUI's | 00:41 |
| simplew | its the same as you wouldenable GTK build in Qt | 00:41 |
| micahg | I'm saying 2 sources, meaning that the way in is to politely ask the Debian maintainer to enable/package it | 00:42 |
| simplew | micahg: yes, im not saying otherwise, but untill that is done im putitng it available in my ppa | 00:43 |
| micahg | sure | 00:43 |
| ScottK | Also including the packaging diff in the bug is not usually a bad idea. | 00:44 |
| simplew | yeap | 00:45 |
| simplew | but now its time to sleep :) | 00:45 |
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| Riddell | hmm 4.9.90 or alpha 1? | 10:35 |
| * Riddell cracks on with 4.9.90 for now | 10:35 | |
| * yofel_ pressed the publish button for the 4.9.4 news | 11:08 | |
| Riddell | yay, thanks for that yofel_ | 11:08 |
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| Riddell | added a thanks to http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.9.4 :) | 11:11 |
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| yofel | heh, thanks | 11:30 |
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| shadeslayer | Riddell: are we backporting beta 2 to quantal? | 11:56 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: well I hope to but it needs done for raring first | 11:56 |
| shadeslayer | okay, and are you working on the FTBF's? | 11:57 |
| shadeslayer | because I'll be free in another 30 minutes to look at them | 11:57 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: yeah, I'm keeping http://notes.kde.org/kubuntu-ninjas updated so just check there and start on the next ones | 11:57 |
| shadeslayer | okay | 11:57 |
| Riddell | or I might take the opportunity to do some alpha 1 testing if you get onto 4.9.90 | 11:58 |
| Riddell | annoying having upstream releasing a day early, with the tars being a day late it makes us look like slackers | 11:58 |
| shadeslayer | heh | 11:58 |
| shadeslayer | Like I said, I can take it up in another 30 minutes :) | 11:58 |
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| soee | Riddell, i vote YES for backporting beta2 to quantal :) | 12:24 |
| soee | though i wouldnt be helpful here as i dont know how it is done :) | 12:24 |
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| shadeslayer | Riddell: do we want to ship lines 2 and below http://paste.kde.org/620264/ | 13:31 |
| shadeslayer | if we do, we will have to make libpala0 and libpala-dev | 13:32 |
| BluesKaj | Hey all | 13:41 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: the /usr/bin file we do but the dev library files probably not | 13:50 |
| shadeslayer | ok | 13:54 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: and they're in not-installed in kdegames so no we don't | 13:55 |
| shadeslayer | oh awesome, forgot to check that one thing | 13:55 |
| ScottK | Britney transitions are blocked for packages affecting Kubuntu images. | 14:44 |
| ScottK | Respining for (hopefully) final images now. | 14:44 |
| Riddell | great | 14:44 |
| ScottK | I pinged claydoh about release notes, but never heard back. | 14:45 |
| Riddell | ScottK: is that worth announcing on ubuntu-devel-announce? | 14:45 |
| ScottK | I'll ask. | 14:45 |
| Riddell | anyone else fancy taking on the release page task? | 14:45 |
| Riddell | Darkwing? | 14:45 |
| ScottK | stgraber is writing the u-d-a mail. | 14:47 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: Can you do ISO testing today? | 14:48 |
| ScottK | I can test i386. | 14:48 |
| ScottK | Anyone up for amd64 testing? | 14:48 |
| * ScottK is poking at shadeslayer for amd64+mac. | 14:48 | |
| shadeslayer | didn't I do that already? | 14:48 |
| shadeslayer | or did something change? | 14:48 |
| ScottK | We're respinning to get in sync with the archive. | 14:49 |
| ScottK | Also, only one test case got done. | 14:49 |
| shadeslayer | well ... you can also mark live session as being fine | 14:49 |
| shadeslayer | as for being in sync with archive ... hmm | 14:50 |
| shadeslayer | I can do some live testing as long as it doesn't entail a huge download | 14:50 |
| ScottK | We'll need retesting for the updated image. | 14:50 |
| Riddell | I can do testing | 14:50 |
| shadeslayer | okay, 10 % needs downloading | 14:56 |
| shadeslayer | good enough | 14:56 |
| shadeslayer | I can test the live session | 14:56 |
| ScottK | Respin isn't done. | 14:57 |
| shadeslayer | bbiab, have to run out for a bit | 14:57 |
| shadeslayer | oh okay | 14:57 |
| ScottK | In progress | 14:57 |
| shadeslayer | http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/247/builds hasn't been marked as being respun | 14:57 |
| ScottK | Doing | 14:58 |
| shadeslayer | thx | 14:58 |
| shadeslayer | be back in 20 minutes :) | 14:58 |
| ScottK | Done. | 14:58 |
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| yofel | agateau: I'll look at gwenview later | 15:01 |
| yofel | thanks | 15:02 |
| ScottK | There you go. Test away. | 15:04 |
| BluesKaj | is Kubuntu Desktop amd64 Raring Alpha 1 ready for downloading ? I've been waiting to try it since the latest daily builds don't run in full screen due to nvidia drivers failing to install | 15:05 |
| ScottK | BluesKaj: The candidate images are ready, but it's unlikely to be any different than the dailies. | 15:07 |
| ScottK | (unless there's been a specific fix for your issue in the meantime) | 15:07 |
| agateau | yofel: sure, no urgency | 15:10 |
| BluesKaj | ScottK, ok thanks , the last daily used was last thursday, if there's a fix for the nvidia driver problem since, then I'll try again . If someone can tell me the nvidia driver failures are repaired then I'll give it a try. | 15:11 |
| Riddell | BluesKaj: not our area | 15:12 |
| ScottK | BluesKaj: Does bug 1054458 look like your bug? | 15:12 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1054458 in ubuntu-drivers-common (Ubuntu Quantal) "nvidia-detector crashed with ValueError in __get_value_from_name(): invalid literal for int() with base 10: 'experimental-304'" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1054458 | 15:12 |
| ScottK | If so, I'd subscribe to that and test once it's marked fix released. | 15:13 |
| BluesKaj | ScottK, I forgot to mention the 3.7 kernel doesn't recognize my wireless KB , so the install freezes at that point .. I can only use the 3.5 kernel on my setup | 15:18 |
| ScottK | Ah. That would make install tough. | 15:18 |
| ScottK | Did you file bugs? | 15:18 |
| BluesKaj | well no I thought I'd wait for the alpha release | 15:19 |
| ScottK | No one bug Kubuntu/Edubuntu are doing an Alpha. | 15:19 |
| ScottK | No need to wait. | 15:20 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: downloading | 15:24 |
| shadeslayer | hmm | 15:27 |
| shadeslayer | torrent stats for anyone interested : http://i.imgur.com/svKuZ.png | 15:28 |
| shadeslayer | apparently we have a 20GB difference between amd64 and i386 | 15:28 |
| shadeslayer | oh fun, that link looks like a 404 | 15:29 |
| shadeslayer | http://wstaw.org/m/2012/12/05/plasma-desktopNB2110.png | 15:31 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: same for me: 83G <> 104G | 15:34 |
| BluesKaj | ScottK, yofel so today's daily build is the 13.04 Alpha ? | 15:42 |
| Riddell | BluesKaj: no | 15:43 |
| ScottK | Today's build is the candidate. | 15:43 |
| Riddell | it's a candidate in testing | 15:43 |
| Riddell | please test | 15:43 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: re invalid openID transaction, works for me | 15:44 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: I tried it several times. | 15:45 |
| ScottK | Did you remove all cookies and such? | 15:45 |
| shadeslayer | I logged out and logged in | 15:45 |
| shadeslayer | does that count? :P | 15:45 |
| shadeslayer | but then again, I'm using 2 factor auth | 15:45 |
| ScottK | No. That doesn't count. | 15:46 |
| shadeslayer | ok, sec | 15:46 |
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| shadeslayer | ScottK: works for me after clearing everything | 15:49 |
| ScottK | Odd. | 15:50 |
| ScottK | I'll try it again after the next install | 15:50 |
| shadeslayer | yay, downloading the ISO at ... 10KBps | 16:08 |
| ScottK | Did you at least zsync from the last one? | 16:24 |
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| shadeslayer | ScottK: ofcourse | 16:25 |
| shadeslayer | #################--- 88.9% 2.9 kBps 905:40 ETA | 16:25 |
| * shadeslayer notes that build page looks pretty green | 16:25 | |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: too many devices, not enough bandwidth | 16:26 |
| shadeslayer | I see 6 devices on my WiFi with a bandwidth of about 512 Kbps | 16:27 |
| kubotu | ::qt-bugs:: [1074978] [kubuntu 12.10] multiple pages per sheet options makes printer hang @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1074978 (by damahevi) | 16:27 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: greener but still splashes of yellow and red | 16:27 |
| shadeslayer | yus | 16:28 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: did you also upload some games? because palapeli didn't have install files | 16:28 |
| shadeslayer | do the rest of them need similar fix0ring? | 16:28 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: it's a single .deb isn't it? | 16:29 |
| Riddell | most of them won't need .install files, palapeli will need one to stop those headers getting installed | 16:29 |
| shadeslayer | palapeli was 2 binary packages | 16:29 |
| Riddell | ah | 16:30 |
| * shadeslayer checks again | 16:30 | |
| Riddell | fixoring is needed then | 16:30 |
| shadeslayer | and ideally we want to follow what kde games did | 16:30 |
| shadeslayer | so that upgrades are smooth | 16:30 |
| shadeslayer | right, it's palapeli and palapeli-data | 16:31 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: muwhahah, I got us a minion from foss.in | 16:51 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: would you like a minion? | 16:52 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: excellent, does this minion use irc? | 16:52 |
| shadeslayer | he said that he knew how to use it | 16:52 |
| shadeslayer | and I got a email from him that he'll hang around | 16:52 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: I'm not sure, but do you know kstar? | 16:53 |
| shadeslayer | Aakarsh Simha | 16:53 |
| shadeslayer | said minion is kstar's brother :D | 16:53 |
| Riddell | oh cool | 16:53 |
| shadeslayer | this is fun : http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/all/kdegames-data/filelist | 16:54 |
| shadeslayer | so I guess that since the data package is pretty much empty we don't have to split data packages for other games | 16:54 |
| Riddell | no palapeli was the only one I think | 16:56 |
| Riddell | I just took the entries from the old kdegames debian/control | 16:56 |
| shadeslayer | righto | 16:59 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: how is bug 1086840 a bug in kubuntu-settings ? | 17:12 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1086840 in kubuntu-settings (Ubuntu) "Missing bookmarks.xml error" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1086840 | 17:12 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: Because I wasn't sure where to file it. | 17:12 |
| shadeslayer | hm | 17:13 |
| shadeslayer | it's kind of weird though | 17:13 |
| ScottK | I picked kubuntu-settings before I knew the file actually existed | 17:13 |
| ScottK | I've seem something similar before and it was in kde4libs. | 17:13 |
| shadeslayer | well ... that's where the kded comes from | 17:13 |
| shadeslayer | but the question is, why is it showing that error when you most likely do NOT have a full disk drive | 17:13 |
| ScottK | If you grep for bookmarks.xml in kde4libs, it's pretty easy to find where it's doing that. | 17:13 |
| ScottK | I most certainly don't. | 17:14 |
| shadeslayer | I wiped my disk, so cloning kdelibs is a task that I'll leave overnight :P | 17:14 |
| ScottK | Heh. | 17:14 |
| * shadeslayer clones on server instead | 17:15 | |
| shadeslayer | 1.4 MBps <3 | 17:17 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: comes from kio/bookmarks/kbookmarkmanager.cc | 17:24 |
| ScottK | OK. Does it look like it's doing anything odd with trying to open the file? | 17:24 |
| shadeslayer | Not really | 17:25 |
| shadeslayer | http://paste.kde.org/620426/ | 17:25 |
| ScottK | Interesting. | 17:25 |
| shadeslayer | tries to open file, if it fails, reports an error | 17:25 |
| ScottK | .kde/share/apps/kfileplaces/ does not exist on a fresh install | 17:25 |
| ScottK | So I wonder if it's checking for it before it gets created the first time. | 17:26 |
| shadeslayer | hmmm | 17:26 |
| ScottK | No, it does. | 17:26 |
| ScottK | I take that back. | 17:26 |
| shadeslayer | :) | 17:26 |
| ScottK | I remember several cycles ago a similar bug and ended up patching away the error message because it was bogus. | 17:27 |
| shadeslayer | lol | 17:28 |
| shadeslayer | how the heck does one use errors.ubuntu.com | 17:28 |
| shadeslayer | searching for germinate there doesn't do anything :/ | 17:28 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: btw, do we have plans for autopkg tests? | 17:33 |
| ScottK | We have lots of plans. | 17:33 |
| shadeslayer | hehe | 17:33 |
| ScottK | For ALL the things. | 17:33 |
| shadeslayer | nah, I'm looking at autopilot and autopkg | 17:33 |
| shadeslayer | and is debian also using autopkg tests? | 17:34 |
| ScottK | Yes. | 17:35 |
| shadeslayer | ok cool | 17:35 |
| Riddell | raring is raring to go on my first test | 17:41 |
| shadeslayer | :D | 17:43 |
| shadeslayer | can I go ahead and put kio-mtp in the kubuntu experimental ppa? | 18:06 |
| ScottK | Yes. | 18:06 |
| shadeslayer | cool, I'll be uploading for raring only atm | 18:07 |
| shadeslayer | afiestas: ^ | 18:07 |
| shadeslayer | now that my HTC phone has gone ahead and become MTP only, I can understand the pain :( | 18:09 |
| shadeslayer | stupid HTC | 18:09 |
| shadeslayer | oh derp, forgot the dbg package | 18:10 |
| shadeslayer | then again, kio-ftps doesn't have one | 18:13 |
| ScottK | That doesn't make it right ... | 18:13 |
| shadeslayer | yeah, fixing | 18:15 |
| shadeslayer | sweet : http://wstaw.org/m/2012/12/05/plasma-desktopki2110.png | 18:16 |
| shadeslayer | eh wat | 18:16 |
| shadeslayer | phone rebooted xD | 18:16 |
| shadeslayer | okayyy | 18:17 |
| shadeslayer | buggy software is buggy | 18:17 |
| shadeslayer | okay, something is *really* wrong | 18:18 |
| shadeslayer | wohoo | 18:31 |
| shadeslayer | http://wstaw.org/m/2012/12/05/plasma-desktopsD2110.png | 18:32 |
| ScottK | Ship it! | 18:34 |
| shadeslayer | hehe | 18:34 |
| shadeslayer | well some things don't work, like trying to open png files | 18:34 |
| shadeslayer | taking insane amount of time | 18:34 |
| shadeslayer | pdf's open quickly | 18:34 |
| ScottK | File size difference? | 18:35 |
| shadeslayer | shows the file size as 0 Bytes :P | 18:36 |
| shadeslayer | mp3's copy fine as well | 18:38 |
| shadeslayer | it's specfically images it seems | 18:38 |
| ScottK | binary versus text data perhaps. | 18:40 |
| ScottK | (PDFs are text) | 18:40 |
| shadeslayer | dunno | 18:40 |
| shadeslayer | http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/kio-mtp_0+git20121205-0ubuntu1~ppa3_amd64.deb | 18:43 |
| shadeslayer | if you want to test, gtg and check if the raring ISO boots | 18:43 |
| ScottK | No amd64 here. | 18:46 |
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| shadeslayer | oh | 18:58 |
| Darkwing | Riddell: pong | 19:00 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: amd64+mac QA'd | 19:01 |
| shadeslayer | the live session only though | 19:01 |
| shadeslayer | and unless alot of the efi stuff changed in the last 2 days, I think the full disk encryption should work as well | 19:02 |
| yofel | early St. Nicholas' Day here: my kubuntu shirt arrived :D Thanks Riddell! | 20:05 |
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| Quintasan | \o | 20:18 |
| ScottK | yofel: Did you put out a call for testing for 4.9.4 beyond just the web site announcement? | 20:29 |
| ronnoc | shadeslayer: installed the AMD64 daily in virtualbox. Installed fine. | 20:29 |
| ScottK | ronnoc: Can you look on http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/247/builds/29479/testcases and check off the ones you've done? | 20:30 |
| yofel | ScottK: not so far | 20:31 |
| ronnoc | ScottK: sure will do now | 20:31 |
| ScottK | Might be nice yofel. | 20:31 |
| ronnoc | ScottK: done | 20:57 |
| ScottK | Thanks. | 20:57 |
| ScottK | ronnoc: Could you try some of the other amd64 test cases? | 20:57 |
| ronnoc | ScottK: i can later tonight. is the oem install case necessary? | 21:00 |
| ScottK | It's not essential for Alpha 1, but we do want it. | 21:00 |
| ScottK | There are oem's that preinstall Kubuntu, so that should work. | 21:00 |
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| ronnoc | ScottK: ok I'll test that one a bit later then in a new VB instance. | 21:01 |
| ronnoc | as well as the live cd. | 21:03 |
| ScottK | i386 is done. | 21:36 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: Can you look at KDE telepathy/farstream/gst 1.0 (see kubuntu-devel message from 30 Nov) | 22:27 |
| kubotu | ::qt-bugs:: [1084965] [SRU] Bugfixrelease Qt4.8.4 @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1084965 (by Sandra Karuving) | 22:43 |
| Riddell | yofel: remember the price is to blog a photo with you or someone equally good looking wearing it | 22:52 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: ping | 23:18 |
| Quintasan | wow | 23:20 |
| Quintasan | kio-mtp works | 23:20 |
| Quintasan | But I can't copy directories | 23:22 |
| Quintasan | T_T | 23:22 |
| ScottK | yofel: I'm taking care of the revert dfaure reccomended for4.9.4 | 23:23 |
| ScottK | For quantal anyway. | 23:26 |
| yofel | ScottK: ok, thanks, I'll update precise then | 23:46 |
| yofel | Riddell: done already ;) | 23:46 |
| ScottK | Thanks. | 23:47 |
| * ScottK notes a depressing lack of amd64 testing for Alpha 1 and looks around. | 23:51 | |
| * yofel can spare half an hour before going to bed for virtualbox | 23:52 | |
| yofel | Riddell: did the script fail, or why are there a few beta2 packages missing in ninjas? (at least gwenview, cantor, dragon and perlkde) | 23:56 |
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