[00:02] ScottK: https://www-admin.kubuntu.org/kde-sc-4.9.4 - the announcement link is still dead though. [00:03] Riddell: i was told that wireshark has a qt ui but theres no suchk package in ubuntu [00:03] crap, wrong channel again [00:23] Riddell: but yes, wireshark has a qt ui, would it be possible to package it? [00:33] simplew: is it in the same tree or a separate project? [00:34] micahg: same source, in which uses cmake [00:34] simplew: maybe file a bug in Debian? [00:34] micahg: ? [00:35] is it an optional build flag or something? [00:35] http://anonsvn.wireshark.org/viewvc/trunk/CMakeLists.txt?revision=46147&view=markup [00:37] simplew: if it's in the same tree, I'd suggest speaking with the Debian maintainer or filing a wishlist bug (reportbug -Bdebian wireshark) [00:38] I'm not sure there's an easy solution though as it looks like it needs to be a separate build (which Debian probably won't go for as it's already a security sensitive pacakge) [00:38] micahg: you have there the urk, you can see it yourself [00:39] micahg: it can be done in a single build [00:39] ah, ok, wishlist bug in Debian is your best bet then [00:40] micahg: well im packaging it already [00:40] micahg: at least will be available in my ppa [00:40] simplew: wireshark is already packaged, we're not going to have 2 in Ubuntu, and we're in sync with Debian on this [00:41] and its not 2, its for 2 different GUI's [00:41] its the same as you wouldenable GTK build in Qt [00:42] I'm saying 2 sources, meaning that the way in is to politely ask the Debian maintainer to enable/package it [00:43] micahg: yes, im not saying otherwise, but untill that is done im putitng it available in my ppa [00:43] sure [00:44] Also including the packaging diff in the bug is not usually a bad idea. [00:45] yeap [00:45] but now its time to sleep :) === jono is now known as Guest68697 === Tonio__ is now known as Tonio_aw [10:35] hmm 4.9.90 or alpha 1? [10:35] * Riddell cracks on with 4.9.90 for now [11:08] * yofel_ pressed the publish button for the 4.9.4 news [11:08] yay, thanks for that yofel_ === yofel_ is now known as yofel [11:11] added a thanks to http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.9.4 :) === Tonio_ is now known as Tonio_aw [11:30] heh, thanks === Tonio_aw is now known as Tonio_ [11:56] Riddell: are we backporting beta 2 to quantal? [11:56] shadeslayer: well I hope to but it needs done for raring first [11:57] okay, and are you working on the FTBF's? [11:57] because I'll be free in another 30 minutes to look at them [11:57] shadeslayer: yeah, I'm keeping http://notes.kde.org/kubuntu-ninjas updated so just check there and start on the next ones [11:57] okay [11:58] or I might take the opportunity to do some alpha 1 testing if you get onto 4.9.90 [11:58] annoying having upstream releasing a day early, with the tars being a day late it makes us look like slackers [11:58] heh [11:58] Like I said, I can take it up in another 30 minutes :) === Tonio_ is now known as Tonio_aw [12:24] Riddell, i vote YES for backporting beta2 to quantal :) [12:24] though i wouldnt be helpful here as i dont know how it is done :) === Tonio_aw is now known as Tonio_ [13:31] Riddell: do we want to ship lines 2 and below http://paste.kde.org/620264/ [13:32] if we do, we will have to make libpala0 and libpala-dev [13:41] Hey all [13:50] shadeslayer: the /usr/bin file we do but the dev library files probably not [13:54] ok [13:55] shadeslayer: and they're in not-installed in kdegames so no we don't [13:55] oh awesome, forgot to check that one thing [14:44] Britney transitions are blocked for packages affecting Kubuntu images. [14:44] Respining for (hopefully) final images now. [14:44] great [14:45] I pinged claydoh about release notes, but never heard back. [14:45] ScottK: is that worth announcing on ubuntu-devel-announce? [14:45] I'll ask. [14:45] anyone else fancy taking on the release page task? [14:45] Darkwing? [14:47] stgraber is writing the u-d-a mail. [14:48] shadeslayer: Can you do ISO testing today? [14:48] I can test i386. [14:48] Anyone up for amd64 testing? [14:48] * ScottK is poking at shadeslayer for amd64+mac. [14:48] didn't I do that already? [14:48] or did something change? [14:49] We're respinning to get in sync with the archive. [14:49] Also, only one test case got done. [14:49] well ... you can also mark live session as being fine [14:50] as for being in sync with archive ... hmm [14:50] I can do some live testing as long as it doesn't entail a huge download [14:50] We'll need retesting for the updated image. [14:50] I can do testing [14:56] okay, 10 % needs downloading [14:56] good enough [14:56] I can test the live session [14:57] Respin isn't done. [14:57] bbiab, have to run out for a bit [14:57] oh okay [14:57] In progress [14:57] http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/247/builds hasn't been marked as being respun [14:58] Doing [14:58] thx [14:58] be back in 20 minutes :) [14:58] Done. === ronnoc_ is now known as ronnoc [15:01] agateau: I'll look at gwenview later [15:02] thanks [15:04] There you go. Test away. [15:05] is Kubuntu Desktop amd64 Raring Alpha 1 ready for downloading ? I've been waiting to try it since the latest daily builds don't run in full screen due to nvidia drivers failing to install [15:07] BluesKaj: The candidate images are ready, but it's unlikely to be any different than the dailies. [15:07] (unless there's been a specific fix for your issue in the meantime) [15:10] yofel: sure, no urgency [15:11] ScottK, ok thanks , the last daily used was last thursday, if there's a fix for the nvidia driver problem since, then I'll try again . If someone can tell me the nvidia driver failures are repaired then I'll give it a try. [15:12] BluesKaj: not our area [15:12] BluesKaj: Does bug 1054458 look like your bug? [15:12] Launchpad bug 1054458 in ubuntu-drivers-common (Ubuntu Quantal) "nvidia-detector crashed with ValueError in __get_value_from_name(): invalid literal for int() with base 10: 'experimental-304'" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1054458 [15:13] If so, I'd subscribe to that and test once it's marked fix released. [15:18] ScottK, I forgot to mention the 3.7 kernel doesn't recognize my wireless KB , so the install freezes at that point .. I can only use the 3.5 kernel on my setup [15:18] Ah. That would make install tough. [15:18] Did you file bugs? [15:19] well no I thought I'd wait for the alpha release [15:19] No one bug Kubuntu/Edubuntu are doing an Alpha. [15:20] No need to wait. [15:24] ScottK: downloading [15:27] hmm [15:28] torrent stats for anyone interested : http://i.imgur.com/svKuZ.png [15:28] apparently we have a 20GB difference between amd64 and i386 [15:29] oh fun, that link looks like a 404 [15:31] http://wstaw.org/m/2012/12/05/plasma-desktopNB2110.png [15:34] shadeslayer: same for me: 83G <> 104G [15:42] ScottK, yofel so today's daily build is the 13.04 Alpha ? [15:43] BluesKaj: no [15:43] Today's build is the candidate. [15:43] it's a candidate in testing [15:43] please test [15:44] ScottK: re invalid openID transaction, works for me [15:45] shadeslayer: I tried it several times. [15:45] Did you remove all cookies and such? [15:45] I logged out and logged in [15:45] does that count? :P [15:45] but then again, I'm using 2 factor auth [15:46] No. That doesn't count. [15:46] ok, sec === ronnoc_ is now known as ronnoc [15:49] ScottK: works for me after clearing everything [15:50] Odd. [15:50] I'll try it again after the next install [16:08] yay, downloading the ISO at ... 10KBps [16:24] Did you at least zsync from the last one? === ejat- is now known as ejat [16:25] ScottK: ofcourse [16:25] #################--- 88.9% 2.9 kBps 905:40 ETA [16:25] * shadeslayer notes that build page looks pretty green [16:26] ScottK: too many devices, not enough bandwidth [16:27] I see 6 devices on my WiFi with a bandwidth of about 512 Kbps [16:27] ::qt-bugs:: [1074978] [kubuntu 12.10] multiple pages per sheet options makes printer hang @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1074978 (by damahevi) [16:27] shadeslayer: greener but still splashes of yellow and red [16:28] yus [16:28] Riddell: did you also upload some games? because palapeli didn't have install files [16:28] do the rest of them need similar fix0ring? [16:29] shadeslayer: it's a single .deb isn't it? [16:29] most of them won't need .install files, palapeli will need one to stop those headers getting installed [16:29] palapeli was 2 binary packages [16:30] ah [16:30] * shadeslayer checks again [16:30] fixoring is needed then [16:30] and ideally we want to follow what kde games did [16:30] so that upgrades are smooth [16:31] right, it's palapeli and palapeli-data [16:51] Riddell: muwhahah, I got us a minion from foss.in [16:52] apachelogger: would you like a minion? [16:52] shadeslayer: excellent, does this minion use irc? [16:52] he said that he knew how to use it [16:52] and I got a email from him that he'll hang around [16:53] Riddell: I'm not sure, but do you know kstar? [16:53] Aakarsh Simha [16:53] said minion is kstar's brother :D [16:53] oh cool [16:54] this is fun : http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/all/kdegames-data/filelist [16:54] so I guess that since the data package is pretty much empty we don't have to split data packages for other games [16:56] no palapeli was the only one I think [16:56] I just took the entries from the old kdegames debian/control [16:59] righto [17:12] ScottK: how is bug 1086840 a bug in kubuntu-settings ? [17:12] Launchpad bug 1086840 in kubuntu-settings (Ubuntu) "Missing bookmarks.xml error" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1086840 [17:12] shadeslayer: Because I wasn't sure where to file it. [17:13] hm [17:13] it's kind of weird though [17:13] I picked kubuntu-settings before I knew the file actually existed [17:13] I've seem something similar before and it was in kde4libs. [17:13] well ... that's where the kded comes from [17:13] but the question is, why is it showing that error when you most likely do NOT have a full disk drive [17:13] If you grep for bookmarks.xml in kde4libs, it's pretty easy to find where it's doing that. [17:14] I most certainly don't. [17:14] I wiped my disk, so cloning kdelibs is a task that I'll leave overnight :P [17:14] Heh. [17:15] * shadeslayer clones on server instead [17:17] 1.4 MBps <3 [17:24] ScottK: comes from kio/bookmarks/kbookmarkmanager.cc [17:24] OK. Does it look like it's doing anything odd with trying to open the file? [17:25] Not really [17:25] http://paste.kde.org/620426/ [17:25] Interesting. [17:25] tries to open file, if it fails, reports an error [17:25] .kde/share/apps/kfileplaces/ does not exist on a fresh install [17:26] So I wonder if it's checking for it before it gets created the first time. [17:26] hmmm [17:26] No, it does. [17:26] I take that back. [17:26] :) [17:27] I remember several cycles ago a similar bug and ended up patching away the error message because it was bogus. [17:28] lol [17:28] how the heck does one use errors.ubuntu.com [17:28] searching for germinate there doesn't do anything :/ [17:33] ScottK: btw, do we have plans for autopkg tests? [17:33] We have lots of plans. [17:33] hehe [17:33] For ALL the things. [17:33] nah, I'm looking at autopilot and autopkg [17:34] and is debian also using autopkg tests? [17:35] Yes. [17:35] ok cool [17:41] raring is raring to go on my first test [17:43] :D [18:06] can I go ahead and put kio-mtp in the kubuntu experimental ppa? [18:06] Yes. [18:07] cool, I'll be uploading for raring only atm [18:07] afiestas: ^ [18:09] now that my HTC phone has gone ahead and become MTP only, I can understand the pain :( [18:09] stupid HTC [18:10] oh derp, forgot the dbg package [18:13] then again, kio-ftps doesn't have one [18:13] That doesn't make it right ... [18:15] yeah, fixing [18:16] sweet : http://wstaw.org/m/2012/12/05/plasma-desktopki2110.png [18:16] eh wat [18:16] phone rebooted xD [18:17] okayyy [18:17] buggy software is buggy [18:18] okay, something is *really* wrong [18:31] wohoo [18:32] http://wstaw.org/m/2012/12/05/plasma-desktopsD2110.png [18:34] Ship it! [18:34] hehe [18:34] well some things don't work, like trying to open png files [18:34] taking insane amount of time [18:34] pdf's open quickly [18:35] File size difference? [18:36] shows the file size as 0 Bytes :P [18:38] mp3's copy fine as well [18:38] it's specfically images it seems [18:40] binary versus text data perhaps. [18:40] (PDFs are text) [18:40] dunno [18:43] http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/kio-mtp_0+git20121205-0ubuntu1~ppa3_amd64.deb [18:43] if you want to test, gtg and check if the raring ISO boots [18:46] No amd64 here. === Tonio_ is now known as Tonio_aw [18:58] oh [19:00] Riddell: pong [19:01] ScottK: amd64+mac QA'd [19:01] the live session only though [19:02] and unless alot of the efi stuff changed in the last 2 days, I think the full disk encryption should work as well [20:05] early St. Nicholas' Day here: my kubuntu shirt arrived :D Thanks Riddell! === VORIAN is now known as v === v is now known as vorian === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [20:18] \o [20:29] yofel: Did you put out a call for testing for 4.9.4 beyond just the web site announcement? [20:29] shadeslayer: installed the AMD64 daily in virtualbox. Installed fine. [20:30] ronnoc: Can you look on http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/247/builds/29479/testcases and check off the ones you've done? [20:31] ScottK: not so far [20:31] ScottK: sure will do now [20:31] Might be nice yofel. [20:57] ScottK: done [20:57] Thanks. [20:57] ronnoc: Could you try some of the other amd64 test cases? [21:00] ScottK: i can later tonight. is the oem install case necessary? [21:00] It's not essential for Alpha 1, but we do want it. [21:00] There are oem's that preinstall Kubuntu, so that should work. === Tonio_ is now known as Tonio_aw [21:01] ScottK: ok I'll test that one a bit later then in a new VB instance. [21:03] as well as the live cd. [21:36] i386 is done. [22:27] shadeslayer: Can you look at KDE telepathy/farstream/gst 1.0 (see kubuntu-devel message from 30 Nov) [22:43] ::qt-bugs:: [1084965] [SRU] Bugfixrelease Qt4.8.4 @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1084965 (by Sandra Karuving) [22:52] yofel: remember the price is to blog a photo with you or someone equally good looking wearing it [23:18] shadeslayer: ping [23:20] wow [23:20] kio-mtp works [23:22] But I can't copy directories [23:22] T_T [23:23] yofel: I'm taking care of the revert dfaure reccomended for4.9.4 [23:26] For quantal anyway. [23:46] ScottK: ok, thanks, I'll update precise then [23:46] Riddell: done already ;) [23:47] Thanks. [23:51] * ScottK notes a depressing lack of amd64 testing for Alpha 1 and looks around. [23:52] * yofel can spare half an hour before going to bed for virtualbox [23:56] Riddell: did the script fail, or why are there a few beta2 packages missing in ninjas? (at least gwenview, cantor, dragon and perlkde)