[00:02] <yofel> ScottK: https://www-admin.kubuntu.org/kde-sc-4.9.4 - the announcement link is still dead though.
[00:03] <simplew> Riddell: i was told that wireshark has a qt ui but theres no suchk package in ubuntu
[00:03] <simplew> crap, wrong channel again
[00:23] <simplew> Riddell: but yes, wireshark has a qt ui, would it be  possible to package it?
[00:33] <micahg> simplew: is it in the same tree or a separate project?
[00:34] <simplew> micahg: same source, in which uses cmake
[00:34] <micahg> simplew: maybe file a bug in Debian?
[00:34] <simplew> micahg: ?
[00:35] <micahg> is it an optional build flag or something?
[00:35] <simplew> http://anonsvn.wireshark.org/viewvc/trunk/CMakeLists.txt?revision=46147&view=markup   
[00:37] <micahg> simplew: if it's in the same tree, I'd suggest speaking with the Debian maintainer or filing a wishlist bug (reportbug -Bdebian wireshark)
[00:38] <micahg> I'm not sure there's an easy solution though as it looks like it needs to be a separate build (which Debian probably won't go for as it's already a security sensitive pacakge)
[00:38] <simplew> micahg: you have there the urk, you can see it yourself
[00:39] <simplew> micahg: it can be done in a single build
[00:39] <micahg> ah, ok, wishlist bug in Debian is your best bet then
[00:40] <simplew> micahg: well im packaging it already
[00:40] <simplew> micahg: at least will be available in my ppa
[00:40] <micahg> simplew: wireshark is already packaged, we're not going to have 2 in Ubuntu, and we're in sync with Debian on this
[00:41] <simplew> and its not 2, its for 2 different GUI's
[00:41] <simplew> its the same as you wouldenable GTK build in Qt
[00:42] <micahg> I'm saying 2 sources, meaning that the way in is to politely ask the Debian maintainer to enable/package it
[00:43] <simplew> micahg: yes, im not saying otherwise, but untill that is done im putitng it available in my ppa
[00:43] <micahg> sure
[00:44] <ScottK> Also including the packaging diff in the bug is not usually a bad idea.
[00:45] <simplew> yeap
[00:45] <simplew> but now its time to sleep :)
[10:35] <Riddell> hmm 4.9.90 or alpha 1?
[10:35]  * Riddell cracks on with 4.9.90 for now
[11:08]  * yofel_ pressed the publish button for the 4.9.4 news
[11:08] <Riddell> yay, thanks for that yofel_ 
[11:11] <Riddell> added a thanks to http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.9.4 :)
[11:30] <yofel> heh, thanks
[11:56] <shadeslayer> Riddell: are we backporting beta 2 to quantal?
[11:56] <Riddell> shadeslayer: well I hope to but it needs done for raring first
[11:57] <shadeslayer> okay, and are you working on the FTBF's?
[11:57] <shadeslayer> because I'll be free in another 30 minutes to look at them
[11:57] <Riddell> shadeslayer: yeah, I'm keeping http://notes.kde.org/kubuntu-ninjas updated so just check there and start on the next ones
[11:57] <shadeslayer> okay
[11:58] <Riddell> or I might take the opportunity to do some alpha 1 testing if you get onto 4.9.90
[11:58] <Riddell> annoying having upstream releasing a day early, with the tars being a day late it makes us look like slackers
[11:58] <shadeslayer> heh
[11:58] <shadeslayer> Like I said, I can take it up in another 30 minutes :)
[12:24] <soee> Riddell, i vote YES for backporting beta2 to quantal :)
[12:24] <soee> though i wouldnt be helpful here as i dont know how it is done :)
[13:31] <shadeslayer> Riddell: do we want to ship lines 2 and below http://paste.kde.org/620264/
[13:32] <shadeslayer> if we do, we will have to make libpala0 and libpala-dev
[13:41] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[13:50] <Riddell> shadeslayer: the /usr/bin file we do but the dev library files probably not
[13:54] <shadeslayer> ok
[13:55] <Riddell> shadeslayer: and they're in not-installed in kdegames so no we don't
[13:55] <shadeslayer> oh awesome, forgot to check that one thing
[14:44] <ScottK> Britney transitions are blocked for packages affecting Kubuntu images.
[14:44] <ScottK> Respining for (hopefully) final images now.
[14:44] <Riddell> great
[14:45] <ScottK> I pinged claydoh about release notes, but never heard back.
[14:45] <Riddell> ScottK: is that worth announcing on ubuntu-devel-announce?
[14:45] <ScottK> I'll ask.
[14:45] <Riddell> anyone else fancy taking on the release page task?
[14:45] <Riddell> Darkwing?
[14:47] <ScottK> stgraber is writing the u-d-a mail.
[14:48] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Can you do ISO testing today?
[14:48] <ScottK> I can test i386.
[14:48] <ScottK> Anyone up for amd64 testing?
[14:48]  * ScottK is poking at shadeslayer for amd64+mac.
[14:48] <shadeslayer> didn't I do that already?
[14:48] <shadeslayer> or did something change?
[14:49] <ScottK> We're respinning to get in sync with the archive.
[14:49] <ScottK> Also, only one test case got done.
[14:49] <shadeslayer> well ... you can also mark live session as being fine
[14:50] <shadeslayer> as for being in sync with archive ... hmm
[14:50] <shadeslayer> I can do some live testing as long as it doesn't entail a huge download
[14:50] <ScottK> We'll need retesting for the updated image.
[14:50] <Riddell> I can do testing
[14:56] <shadeslayer> okay, 10 % needs downloading
[14:56] <shadeslayer> good enough
[14:56] <shadeslayer> I can test the live session
[14:57] <ScottK> Respin isn't done.
[14:57] <shadeslayer> bbiab, have to run out for a bit
[14:57] <shadeslayer> oh okay
[14:57] <ScottK> In progress
[14:57] <shadeslayer> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/247/builds hasn't been marked as being respun
[14:58] <ScottK> Doing
[14:58] <shadeslayer> thx
[14:58] <shadeslayer> be back in 20 minutes :)
[14:58] <ScottK> Done.
[15:01] <yofel> agateau: I'll look at gwenview later
[15:02] <yofel> thanks
[15:04] <ScottK> There you go.  Test away.
[15:05] <BluesKaj> is  Kubuntu Desktop amd64 Raring Alpha 1 ready for downloading ? I've been waiting to try it since the latest daily builds don't run in full screen due to nvidia drivers failing to install 
[15:07] <ScottK> BluesKaj: The candidate images are ready, but it's unlikely to be any different than the dailies.
[15:07] <ScottK> (unless there's been a specific fix for your issue in the meantime)
[15:10] <agateau> yofel: sure, no urgency
[15:11] <BluesKaj> ScottK, ok thanks , the last daily used was last thursday, if there's a fix for the nvidia driver problem since, then I'll try again . If someone can tell me the nvidia driver failures are repaired then I'll give it a try.
[15:12] <Riddell> BluesKaj: not our area
[15:12] <ScottK> BluesKaj: Does bug 1054458 look like your bug?
[15:13] <ScottK> If so, I'd subscribe to that and test once it's marked fix released.
[15:18] <BluesKaj> ScottK, I forgot to mention the 3.7 kernel doesn't recognize my wireless KB , so the install freezes at that point .. I can only use the 3.5 kernel on my setup
[15:18] <ScottK> Ah.  That would make install tough.
[15:18] <ScottK> Did you file bugs?
[15:19] <BluesKaj> well no I thought I'd wait for the alpha release
[15:19] <ScottK> No one bug Kubuntu/Edubuntu are doing an Alpha.
[15:20] <ScottK> No need to wait.
[15:24] <shadeslayer> ScottK: downloading
[15:27] <shadeslayer> hmm
[15:28] <shadeslayer> torrent stats for anyone interested : http://i.imgur.com/svKuZ.png
[15:28] <shadeslayer> apparently we have a 20GB difference between amd64 and i386
[15:29] <shadeslayer> oh fun, that link looks like a 404
[15:31] <shadeslayer> http://wstaw.org/m/2012/12/05/plasma-desktopNB2110.png
[15:34] <yofel> shadeslayer: same for me: 83G <> 104G
[15:42] <BluesKaj> ScottK, yofel so today's daily build is the 13.04 Alpha ?
[15:43] <Riddell> BluesKaj: no
[15:43] <ScottK> Today's build is the candidate.
[15:43] <Riddell> it's a candidate in testing
[15:43] <Riddell> please test
[15:44] <shadeslayer> ScottK: re invalid openID transaction, works for me
[15:45] <ScottK> shadeslayer: I tried it several times.
[15:45] <ScottK> Did you remove all cookies and such?
[15:45] <shadeslayer> I logged out and logged in
[15:45] <shadeslayer> does that count? :P
[15:45] <shadeslayer> but then again, I'm using 2 factor auth
[15:46] <ScottK> No.  That doesn't count.
[15:46] <shadeslayer> ok, sec
[15:49] <shadeslayer> ScottK: works for me after clearing everything
[15:50] <ScottK> Odd.
[15:50] <ScottK> I'll try it again after the next install
[16:08] <shadeslayer> yay, downloading the ISO at ... 10KBps
[16:24] <ScottK> Did you at least zsync from the last one?
[16:25] <shadeslayer> ScottK: ofcourse
[16:25] <shadeslayer> #################--- 88.9% 2.9 kBps 905:40 ETA   
[16:25]  * shadeslayer notes that build page looks pretty green
[16:26] <shadeslayer> ScottK: too many devices, not enough bandwidth
[16:27] <shadeslayer> I see 6 devices on my WiFi with a bandwidth of about 512 Kbps
[16:27] <kubotu> ::qt-bugs:: [1074978] [kubuntu 12.10] multiple pages per sheet options makes printer hang @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1074978 (by damahevi)
[16:27] <Riddell> shadeslayer: greener but still splashes of yellow and red
[16:28] <shadeslayer> yus
[16:28] <shadeslayer> Riddell: did you also upload some games? because palapeli didn't have install files
[16:28] <shadeslayer> do the rest of them need similar fix0ring?
[16:29] <Riddell> shadeslayer: it's a single .deb isn't it?
[16:29] <Riddell> most of them won't need .install files, palapeli will need one to stop those headers getting installed
[16:29] <shadeslayer> palapeli was 2 binary packages
[16:30] <Riddell> ah
[16:30]  * shadeslayer checks again
[16:30] <Riddell> fixoring is needed then
[16:30] <shadeslayer> and ideally we want to follow what kde games did
[16:30] <shadeslayer> so that upgrades are smooth
[16:31] <shadeslayer> right, it's palapeli and palapeli-data
[16:51] <shadeslayer> Riddell: muwhahah, I got us a minion from foss.in
[16:52] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: would you like a minion?
[16:52] <Riddell> shadeslayer: excellent, does this minion use irc?
[16:52] <shadeslayer> he said that he knew how to use it
[16:52] <shadeslayer> and I got a email from him that he'll hang around
[16:53] <shadeslayer> Riddell: I'm not sure, but do you know kstar?
[16:53] <shadeslayer> Aakarsh Simha
[16:53] <shadeslayer> said minion is kstar's brother :D
[16:53] <Riddell> oh cool
[16:54] <shadeslayer> this is fun : http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/all/kdegames-data/filelist
[16:54] <shadeslayer> so I guess that since the data package is pretty much empty we don't have to split data packages for other games
[16:56] <Riddell> no palapeli was the only one I think
[16:56] <Riddell> I just took the entries from the old kdegames debian/control
[16:59] <shadeslayer> righto
[17:12] <shadeslayer> ScottK: how is bug 1086840 a bug in kubuntu-settings ?
[17:12] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Because I wasn't sure where to file it.
[17:13] <shadeslayer> hm
[17:13] <shadeslayer> it's kind of weird though
[17:13] <ScottK> I picked kubuntu-settings before I knew the file actually existed
[17:13] <ScottK> I've seem something similar before and it was in kde4libs.
[17:13] <shadeslayer> well ... that's where the kded comes from
[17:13] <shadeslayer> but the question is, why is it showing that error when you most likely do NOT have a full disk drive
[17:13] <ScottK> If you grep for bookmarks.xml in kde4libs, it's pretty easy to find where it's doing that.
[17:14] <ScottK> I most certainly don't.
[17:14] <shadeslayer> I wiped my disk, so cloning kdelibs is a task that I'll leave overnight :P
[17:14] <ScottK> Heh.
[17:15]  * shadeslayer clones on server instead
[17:17] <shadeslayer> 1.4 MBps <3
[17:24] <shadeslayer> ScottK: comes from kio/bookmarks/kbookmarkmanager.cc
[17:24] <ScottK> OK.  Does it look like it's doing anything odd with trying to open the file?
[17:25] <shadeslayer> Not really
[17:25] <shadeslayer> http://paste.kde.org/620426/
[17:25] <ScottK> Interesting.
[17:25] <shadeslayer> tries to open file, if it fails, reports an error
[17:25] <ScottK> .kde/share/apps/kfileplaces/ does not exist on a fresh install
[17:26] <ScottK> So I wonder if it's checking for it before it gets created the first time.
[17:26] <shadeslayer> hmmm
[17:26] <ScottK> No, it does.
[17:26] <ScottK> I take that back.
[17:26] <shadeslayer> :)
[17:27] <ScottK> I remember several cycles ago a similar bug and ended up patching away the error message because it was bogus.
[17:28] <shadeslayer> lol
[17:28] <shadeslayer> how the heck does one use errors.ubuntu.com
[17:28] <shadeslayer> searching for germinate there doesn't do anything :/
[17:33] <shadeslayer> ScottK: btw, do we have plans for autopkg tests?
[17:33] <ScottK> We have lots of plans.
[17:33] <shadeslayer> hehe
[17:33] <ScottK> For ALL the things.
[17:33] <shadeslayer> nah, I'm looking at autopilot and autopkg
[17:34] <shadeslayer> and is debian also using autopkg tests?
[17:35] <ScottK> Yes.
[17:35] <shadeslayer> ok cool
[17:41] <Riddell> raring is raring to go on my first test
[17:43] <shadeslayer> :D
[18:06] <shadeslayer> can I go ahead and put kio-mtp in the kubuntu experimental ppa?
[18:06] <ScottK> Yes.
[18:07] <shadeslayer> cool, I'll be uploading for raring only atm
[18:07] <shadeslayer> afiestas: ^
[18:09] <shadeslayer> now that my HTC phone has gone ahead and become MTP only, I can understand the pain :(
[18:09] <shadeslayer> stupid HTC
[18:10] <shadeslayer> oh derp, forgot the dbg package
[18:13] <shadeslayer> then again, kio-ftps doesn't have one
[18:13] <ScottK> That doesn't make it right ...
[18:15] <shadeslayer> yeah, fixing
[18:16] <shadeslayer> sweet : http://wstaw.org/m/2012/12/05/plasma-desktopki2110.png
[18:16] <shadeslayer> eh wat
[18:16] <shadeslayer> phone rebooted xD
[18:17] <shadeslayer> okayyy
[18:17] <shadeslayer> buggy software is buggy
[18:18] <shadeslayer> okay, something is *really* wrong
[18:31] <shadeslayer> wohoo
[18:32] <shadeslayer> http://wstaw.org/m/2012/12/05/plasma-desktopsD2110.png
[18:34] <ScottK> Ship it!
[18:34] <shadeslayer> hehe
[18:34] <shadeslayer> well some things don't work, like trying to open png files
[18:34] <shadeslayer> taking insane amount of time
[18:34] <shadeslayer> pdf's open quickly
[18:35] <ScottK> File size difference?
[18:36] <shadeslayer> shows the file size as 0 Bytes :P
[18:38] <shadeslayer> mp3's copy fine as well
[18:38] <shadeslayer> it's specfically images it seems
[18:40] <ScottK> binary versus text data perhaps.
[18:40] <ScottK> (PDFs are text)
[18:40] <shadeslayer> dunno
[18:43] <shadeslayer> http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/kio-mtp_0+git20121205-0ubuntu1~ppa3_amd64.deb
[18:43] <shadeslayer> if you want to test, gtg and check if the raring ISO boots
[18:46] <ScottK> No amd64 here.
[18:58] <shadeslayer> oh
[19:00] <Darkwing> Riddell: pong
[19:01] <shadeslayer> ScottK: amd64+mac QA'd
[19:01] <shadeslayer> the live session only though
[19:02] <shadeslayer> and unless alot of the efi stuff changed in the last 2 days, I think the full disk encryption should work as well
[20:05] <yofel> early St. Nicholas' Day here: my kubuntu shirt arrived :D Thanks Riddell!
[20:18] <Quintasan> \o
[20:29] <ScottK> yofel: Did you put out a call for testing for 4.9.4 beyond just the web site announcement?
[20:29] <ronnoc> shadeslayer: installed the AMD64 daily in virtualbox. Installed fine.
[20:30] <ScottK> ronnoc: Can you look on http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/247/builds/29479/testcases and check off the ones you've done?
[20:31] <yofel> ScottK: not so far
[20:31] <ronnoc> ScottK: sure will do now
[20:31] <ScottK> Might be nice yofel.
[20:57] <ronnoc> ScottK: done
[20:57] <ScottK> Thanks.
[20:57] <ScottK> ronnoc: Could you try some of the other amd64 test cases?
[21:00] <ronnoc> ScottK:  i can later tonight. is the oem install case necessary? 
[21:00] <ScottK> It's not essential for Alpha 1, but we do want it.
[21:00] <ScottK> There are oem's that preinstall Kubuntu, so that should work.
[21:01] <ronnoc> ScottK: ok I'll test that one a bit later then in a new VB instance. 
[21:03] <ronnoc> as well as the live cd.
[21:36] <ScottK> i386 is done.
[22:27] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Can you look at KDE telepathy/farstream/gst 1.0 (see kubuntu-devel message from 30 Nov)
[22:43] <kubotu> ::qt-bugs:: [1084965] [SRU] Bugfixrelease Qt4.8.4 @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1084965 (by Sandra Karuving)
[22:52] <Riddell> yofel: remember the price is to blog a photo with you or someone equally good looking wearing it
[23:18] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: ping
[23:20] <Quintasan> wow
[23:20] <Quintasan> kio-mtp works
[23:22] <Quintasan> But I can't copy directories
[23:22] <Quintasan> T_T
[23:23] <ScottK> yofel: I'm taking care of the revert dfaure reccomended for4.9.4
[23:26] <ScottK> For quantal anyway.
[23:46] <yofel> ScottK: ok, thanks, I'll update precise then
[23:46] <yofel> Riddell: done already ;)
[23:47] <ScottK> Thanks.
[23:51]  * ScottK notes a depressing lack of amd64 testing for Alpha 1 and looks around.
[23:52]  * yofel can spare half an hour before going to bed for virtualbox
[23:56] <yofel> Riddell: did the script fail, or why are there a few beta2 packages missing in ninjas? (at least gwenview, cantor, dragon and perlkde)