=== yofel_ is now known as yofel === albert is now known as Guest63196 === Guest63196 is now known as Phryq [22:27] can I get some tips. I have exhausted all I know and am kinda SOL [22:29] I am on another computer because my Macbook pro was running 12.4 of Ubuntu so I decided to try 12.10. [22:30] Now when I start my computer about 80% of the time the sign in screen shows but then after I sign in it freezes. [22:30] The times that I get though it freezes after lots of small visual glitches. [22:30] What should I do? [22:35] i would just go back to 12.04 riles [22:35] How do I do that? [22:36] I can't get my computer to read the disc drive. I press ESC at menu and nothing shows the disc in the device [22:36] *at boot [22:36] well, ubuntu nor linux are magic. if the hardware is failing, that wont help [22:37] riles: i would get the 12.04 live CD you likely used to install 12.04 and reinstall it [22:37] i would test the memory and the hard drive [22:37] alright. [22:37] which button do I hold at boot? [22:38] The drive is working I made a mint disc when I got it to run one of the few times. [22:39] riles: all of that depends on the machine [22:39] riles: when i had a macbook and was testing, i believe it was just the "c" key [22:39] could have been "apple+C" [22:39] I am on a 100% ubuntu macbook [22:39] riles: the operating system makes no difference [22:39] i s [22:39] weird. [22:39] riles: you are asking the hardware to boot a CD.. that is before the OS loads [22:40] I am rebooting the device now [22:40] riles: each machine boots CD's in a different way.. typyically from the bios [22:40] the apple hardware doesnt have a traditional bios in that sense.. so it can be a bit more tricky, though arguably more "attractive" [22:40] learning new things today [22:41] the screen just went purple... shit. [22:42] riles: try and keep it clean here.. the language [22:42] sorry. [22:42] riles: i would just try and boot a live CD [22:43] riles: i would tap the shift key.. i would try down at the bottom "F6" and select "nomodeset" [22:43] could i put something into terminal to get it to boot from the disc? [22:43] this is what i reffered to with the apple hardware i had https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook [22:43] riles: no [22:44] riles: you can boot the live CD.. holding shift [22:44] okay [22:44] riles: then, at the bottom.. you'll see F6 [22:44] in that f6 menu.. you'll see "nomodeset" [22:44] this will kind of "put something in the terminal" [22:45] riles: i would test the memory there... try and get to a live desktop and look at the hard drive [22:46] I held shift and it did not do anything, resumed normal boot [22:46] riles: cool [22:47] ? [22:47] riles: this will *not* be easy.. nor will it just automatcially happen for you. nor will apple or anyone else be able to help you [22:47] riles: what did i do? [22:47] i put the cd in.. i removed the hard drive so i wouldnt "break" it, forcing reboots [22:47] riles: i tried the live CD.. if that fails, i use the tap shift and f6 option [22:48] shift+f6? [22:48] riles: you likely are not doing the key sequences in the order the hardware is expecting [22:48] riles: no [22:48] riles: i would hit c.. or whatever it is that boots the cd [22:48] when you hear the cd loading.. hold shift [22:49] that should bring up the options wth f6 at the bottom... which are not a big deal, since its just an alternative, and nothing to worry about [22:49] if you cant get that to work, move on [22:49] okay [22:49] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook was quite helpful for me though [22:49] that should tell you, by the model you have, what you should need to do [22:50] alright thanks. [22:50] i think you should rule out hardware issues.. [22:50] Is there anyway to just wipe my system clean? [22:50] riles: sure.. boot one of these live CDs and wipe it [22:51] I have my documents backed up and my osx on an xternal [22:51] riles: you'll need to sort out how to boot a live CD.. be that an apple OS one, or an ubuntu one.. or something with gparted [22:51] alright. [22:52] I could partition the drive and then slap on the osx and then delete the ubuntu right? [22:52] I have a sucessful boot. Testing memory [22:52] riles: those are options that can be done after booting an osx installer disc.. correct [22:53] how do I do a memory test? [22:53] riles: i boot a live CD with a memory test on it [22:53] the ubuntu ones have it.. but you need to press shift at the correct time [22:54] okay [22:54] riles: you would hold C to get the cd to load.. them press shift to show the menu with the f6 options that i mentioned and the memtest [22:54] OR, just get a diagnostic live CD such as ultimate boot cd [22:55] okay. I will give this all a shot.