| jlamothe | Does anyone here have any experinece with lubntu? | 12:56 |
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| willwh | jlamothe: a bit yah | 16:36 |
| willwh | although I am not running it currently | 16:36 |
| jlamothe | I've just switched my netbook over to lubuntu, and was wondering if thers a way to get the mail notification icon that regular ubuntu has. | 17:00 |
| jlamothe | There's a popup that shows up, but that only does me any good if I happen to be looking at the screen when it happens. | 17:00 |
| willwh | this may help? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1959611 | 17:11 |
| jlamothe | This looks promising. Thanks. | 17:14 |
| willwh | np | 17:17 |
| willwh | hey guys | 19:48 |
| willwh | random Q | 19:48 |
| willwh | I use apache + usermod | 19:49 |
| willwh | I want to give access to a friend to be able to write to my /home/willwh/public_html/somedir | 19:49 |
| willwh | so I created a new group "web" - added willwh, and the other user to the group | 19:49 |
| willwh | chown -R willwh:web ~/public_html/somedir/ | 19:50 |
| willwh | I can use WinSCP with the other account - and it does save file changes | 19:50 |
| willwh | but WinSCP is throwing permissions errors | 19:50 |
| willwh | hjalp! :) | 19:50 |
| Chex | willwh: sounds like a job for S-ticy bit | 20:10 |
| Chex | Sticky | 20:10 |
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| willwh | Chex: huh? :] | 20:36 |
| Chex | willwh: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_permissions | 21:01 |
| Chex | willwh: take a look at sticky bits | 21:01 |
| willwh | thx | 23:01 |
| willwh | Chex: well... I read it, didn't fully understand | 23:04 |
| BobJonkman | willwh: The sticky bit on the Group permission for a directory will give the same permission to all folders and files created under that directory | 23:09 |
| willwh | so how do I set that? | 23:09 |
| BobJonkman | It's a way to ensure all files and directories created have the same group owner | 23:09 |
| BobJonkman | It's been a while, but from memory: chmod -R g+S folder/ | 23:10 |
| BobJonkman | -R make it recursive so it applies to all subfolders | 23:10 |
| BobJonkman | g+S set the Sticky Bit for Group | 23:10 |
| willwh | ah :) | 23:11 |
| BobJonkman | So now, whatever user:group ownership you have on "folder/" will automatically apply to new folders and files you create under folder/ | 23:12 |
| willwh | mmm | 23:12 |
| willwh | g+S didn't seem to work | 23:12 |
| BobJonkman | My memory ain't what it used to be | 23:12 |
| willwh | ;] | 23:12 |
| BobJonkman | If you're not already the owner of that folder (and its subordinates) then you might have to sudo that | 23:13 |
| willwh | I did | 23:14 |
| * BobJonkman experiments on a temp folder | 23:14 | |
| BobJonkman | hmmm... chmod -R g+s folder/ works, but I remember something about a difference between g+s and g+S | 23:15 |
| BobJonkman | And funny thing, applying g+s still shows with a S when I ls -l | 23:16 |
| willwh | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions#Sticky_Bit | 23:18 |
| willwh | :D | 23:18 |
| willwh | grrrrrrrrr | 23:19 |
| willwh | I set get perm issues from winscp | 23:19 |
| willwh | it is saving it | 23:19 |
| willwh | but puking and saying permission errors | 23:19 |
| BobJonkman | That link shows adding sticky bit to "Other" permission. I've only used it with Group. | 23:21 |
| willwh | ah | 23:21 |
| willwh | The sticky bit. It's needed for "other" in shared directories like /tmp. It's needed for "group" in shared directories where write permission is given to a group, like /var/www | 23:22 |
| BobJonkman | That's right, so that any files and directories created get the same permissions and ownership as the parent | 23:23 |
| BobJonkman | In other OSes it's called Inherited File Rights | 23:23 |
| BobJonkman | And other OSes (I'm thinking Netware, not Windows) the file system has a lot more finesse over assigning file rights. | 23:24 |
| BobJonkman | Linux file permissions are great for their simplicity (mostly), but lacks fine-grained control. | 23:25 |
| BobJonkman | I've never played with it, but there's a whole set of extended file rights available | 23:25 |
| BobJonkman | Can't think of the package that provides it; it'll come to me | 23:25 |
| willwh | https://gist.github.com/24e8aa1edb9b7a521ef5 | 23:26 |
| willwh | so that is actually at /home/willwh/public_html/ilovedf | 23:26 |
| willwh | I have a user account called "zealot" - whose home directory is set to /home/willwh/public_html/ilovedf | 23:27 |
| willwh | so when I SCP in, that is what I get | 23:27 |
| willwh | zealot is also in the "web" group | 23:28 |
| BobJonkman | There's a way of assigning permissions to specific accounts with Access Control Lists | 23:31 |
| BobJonkman | ACLs are more like what I'm used to on Netware and Windows | 23:32 |
| BobJonkman | man acl | 23:32 |
| BobJonkman | Haven't played with ACLs on Linux, and I suspect you don't need it for what you're trying to do | 23:32 |
| willwh | ye | 23:35 |
| willwh | I just want to let one user account edit crap in a dir under my user's home dir | 23:35 |
| BobJonkman | try setting the group owner for that folder to that user's home group | 23:36 |
| BobJonkman | Sorry, willwh, I've gotta go. I suspect I'm not being all that useful anyway... | 23:40 |
| willwh | np BobJonkman thx for the assistance!! | 23:40 |
| BobJonkman | you're welcome, for what it's worth. | 23:41 |
| BobJonkman | I'll be back in a couple of hours. Dinner needs to be made and eaten | 23:41 |
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