[12:56] Does anyone here have any experinece with lubntu? [16:36] jlamothe: a bit yah [16:36] although I am not running it currently [17:00] I've just switched my netbook over to lubuntu, and was wondering if thers a way to get the mail notification icon that regular ubuntu has. [17:00] There's a popup that shows up, but that only does me any good if I happen to be looking at the screen when it happens. [17:11] this may help? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1959611 [17:14] This looks promising. Thanks. [17:17] np [19:48] hey guys [19:48] random Q [19:49] I use apache + usermod [19:49] I want to give access to a friend to be able to write to my /home/willwh/public_html/somedir [19:49] so I created a new group "web" - added willwh, and the other user to the group [19:50] chown -R willwh:web ~/public_html/somedir/ [19:50] I can use WinSCP with the other account - and it does save file changes [19:50] but WinSCP is throwing permissions errors [19:50] hjalp! :) [20:10] willwh: sounds like a job for S-ticy bit [20:10] Sticky === johanbr_ is now known as johanbr [20:36] Chex: huh? :] [21:01] willwh: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_permissions [21:01] willwh: take a look at sticky bits [23:01] thx [23:04] Chex: well... I read it, didn't fully understand [23:09] willwh: The sticky bit on the Group permission for a directory will give the same permission to all folders and files created under that directory [23:09] so how do I set that? [23:09] It's a way to ensure all files and directories created have the same group owner [23:10] It's been a while, but from memory: chmod -R g+S folder/ [23:10] -R make it recursive so it applies to all subfolders [23:10] g+S set the Sticky Bit for Group [23:11] ah :) [23:12] So now, whatever user:group ownership you have on "folder/" will automatically apply to new folders and files you create under folder/ [23:12] mmm [23:12] g+S didn't seem to work [23:12] My memory ain't what it used to be [23:12] ;] [23:13] If you're not already the owner of that folder (and its subordinates) then you might have to sudo that [23:14] I did [23:14] * BobJonkman experiments on a temp folder [23:15] hmmm... chmod -R g+s folder/ works, but I remember something about a difference between g+s and g+S [23:16] And funny thing, applying g+s still shows with a S when I ls -l [23:18] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions#Sticky_Bit [23:18] :D [23:19] grrrrrrrrr [23:19] I set get perm issues from winscp [23:19] it is saving it [23:19] but puking and saying permission errors [23:21] That link shows adding sticky bit to "Other" permission. I've only used it with Group. [23:21] ah [23:22] The sticky bit. It's needed for "other" in shared directories like /tmp. It's needed for "group" in shared directories where write permission is given to a group, like /var/www [23:23] That's right, so that any files and directories created get the same permissions and ownership as the parent [23:23] In other OSes it's called Inherited File Rights [23:24] And other OSes (I'm thinking Netware, not Windows) the file system has a lot more finesse over assigning file rights. [23:25] Linux file permissions are great for their simplicity (mostly), but lacks fine-grained control. [23:25] I've never played with it, but there's a whole set of extended file rights available [23:25] Can't think of the package that provides it; it'll come to me [23:26] https://gist.github.com/24e8aa1edb9b7a521ef5 [23:26] so that is actually at /home/willwh/public_html/ilovedf [23:27] I have a user account called "zealot" - whose home directory is set to /home/willwh/public_html/ilovedf [23:27] so when I SCP in, that is what I get [23:28] zealot is also in the "web" group [23:31] There's a way of assigning permissions to specific accounts with Access Control Lists [23:32] ACLs are more like what I'm used to on Netware and Windows [23:32] man acl [23:32] Haven't played with ACLs on Linux, and I suspect you don't need it for what you're trying to do [23:35] ye [23:35] I just want to let one user account edit crap in a dir under my user's home dir [23:36] try setting the group owner for that folder to that user's home group [23:40] Sorry, willwh, I've gotta go. I suspect I'm not being all that useful anyway... [23:40] np BobJonkman thx for the assistance!! [23:41] you're welcome, for what it's worth. [23:41] I'll be back in a couple of hours. Dinner needs to be made and eaten