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stgraberslangasek: bug 108661200:03
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1086612 in plymouth (Ubuntu) "plymouth isn't working in lxc containers" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/108661200:03
stgraberslangasek: as for ureadahead, it attempts to write to debugfs which isn't allowed in containers (/sys/kernel/debug/tracing/events/fs/do_sys_open/enable). We're not allowing that path for obvious reasons as kernel tracing from a container would let the user access everything that's going on on the host and any other containers.00:06
slangasekstgraber: ta, will see what I can figure out there00:06
slangasekstgraber: right, but ureadahead should also fail gracefully with minimal impact on the system, shouldn't it?00:07
stgraberslangasek: sure, none of the failures I'm trying to fix are causing breakage or we'd have fixed them a while ago. I'm just trying to get /var/log/upstart into a reasonable state on a clean container :)00:08
stgraberas currently we're getting errors in there at every boot because of those various jobs failing00:09
slangasekstgraber: heh, I don't even have that clean on a real system :P00:09
stgraberslangasek: well, I'm certainly ignoring the usual ones (networking, procps, ...) where the output is actually useful to have and those jobs are actually working :)00:11
slangasekstgraber: I'm certainly ok with improving the code to not output spurious errors, I just am reluctant to see this done by adding further complexity to the job start rules00:12
slangasekstgraber: please make lxc-create fail when given a --dir argument pointing to an already-existing directory :P00:21
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stgraberslangasek: oh, interesting, I never looked at the "dir" backingstore plugin but yeah, it's definitely broken, will add that to my todo unless hallyn beats me to fixing it (as I believe that's his code ;))00:57
slangasekstgraber: heh :)00:58
stgraberit's the first time I use any of the fancy alternate backingstore, I tend to just use the default, which happens to properly check for existing rootfs :)00:59
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ikepanhc@pilot in01:35
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penguin42ikepanhc: If you fancy a nice simple 1 line change (+ comment) bug 1033250 I've got a branch against01:38
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1033250 in xpilot-ng (Ubuntu) "crash on asking for internet game" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/103325001:38
ikepanhcpenguin42: that looks nice, let me try that first01:44
penguin42ikepanhc: There's a bzr branch against it I made marked for review01:45
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dholbachgood morning08:07
rbasakogra_: I can't check highbank due to a separate issue, but flash-kernel-installer appears fixed for armadaxp at least. Do you have SRU plans?08:15
dholbachAmaranth, happy birthday! :)08:23
Amaranthdholbach: Thanks! :)08:23
dholbachdidrocks, you are a hero!08:24
didrockshey dholbach ;)08:24
didrocksdholbach: please install from the ppa and keep me posted how it goes :)08:24
didrocks(and thanks)08:24
pittiGood morning08:42
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evbdmurray: https://launchpad.net/~ev/+archive/whoopsie-daisy/+build/403796809:20
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mptpitti, bdmurray, xnox, ev: bug 107285409:37
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1072854 in Errors "Handle bugs in libraries better" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107285409:37
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bdmurraypitti, ev: https://errors.ubuntu.com/bucket/?id=%2Fusr%2Fshare%2Fapport%2Fapport-gtk%3AOSError%3A%3Cmodule%3E%3Arun_argv%3Arun_crashes%3Arun_crash%3Amark_report_upload09:58
evxnox: https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/document/d/1BWOIRdJvUueJa4cWV68UEY3nlmHgAVJY6aNGo6YSCQg/edit#heading=h.kqe6vo42l0y710:12
pittihm, is dput/ftp upload broken for anyone else than me?10:17
evbdmurray: https://errors.ubuntu.com/api/1.0/most-common-problems/?limit=0&release=Ubuntu%2012.10&format=json10:28
evbdmurray: https://errors.ubuntu.com/api/1.0/most-common-problems/?limit=100&release=Ubuntu%2012.10&period=day&callback=YUI.Env.DataSource.callbacks.yui_3_5_0_3_1354703350440_304010:31
bdmurrayev: https://errors.ubuntu.com/api/1.0/most-common-problems/?limit=0&release=Ubuntu%2013.04&format=json10:31
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blackzcan someone please reject my ppa-purge upload to precise-proposed? thanks10:37
bdmurrayblackz: I'll do it10:57
blackzbdmurray: thanks10:57
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pittibdmurray: python -c 'from apport.crashdb import get_crashdb; db=get_crashdb(None); r=db.download(1070952); r.write(open("/tmp/foo.crash", "wb"))'11:18
mptmvo, in June someone with Launchpad karma of 6 marked bug 975320 as fixed. Today it's the most common error reported for all Ubuntu users, so I suspect it isn't fixed at all.11:20
ubottuLaunchpad bug 975320 in aptdaemon (Ubuntu) "update-manager crashed with Depends in _run_in_dialog(): libx264-120 but it is not installed" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/97532011:20
evpitti: we're talking about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/979278 specifically11:29
ubottuError: launchpad bug 979278 not found11:29
mlankhorstwill the quantal nexus7 ppa still receive updates or is it all going to be for raring?11:33
bdmurraypitti: modified_since is the searchTasks parameter11:36
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mptev, pitti: bug 108675411:43
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1086754 in Errors "Some linked bug reports are private duplicates" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/108675411:43
mlankhorstugh the raring image is corrupting crazily :P11:52
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mvompt: oh, thanks! let me have a look12:01
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mdeslaur@pilot in13:04
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seb128can somebody reject https://code.launchpad.net/~andrikos/ubuntu/quantal/xserver-xorg-video-intel/fix-ati-hybrid/+merge/132956 ?13:04
seb128pitti, stgraber: ^13:04
seb128mdeslaur, since you do reviewing, what do you think about the popularity-contest 1 liner changes in the queue?13:09
mdeslaurI was just about to take a look at them, one sec13:10
seb128mdeslaur, I wonder if that should be || true rather than || exit 0... if no conffile is shipped it's probably not required (or the package should ship one)?13:10
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pittiseb128: done13:13
mdeslaurseb128: the package installs the file in the postinst13:13
seb128pitti, danke13:14
mdeslaurseb128: it's an ec2 problem because of a bug in the script: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-on-ec2/vmbuilder/automated-ec2-builds/revision/52413:14
mdeslaurseb128: I don't think this is actually needed13:14
seb128mdeslaur, oh, doh, I was looking at the deb content, I didn't think it was coming from the postinst13:14
seb128mdeslaur, I see, that explains it, thanks ;-) you are going to close it with a pointer on the ec2 fix then?13:15
mdeslaurseb128: yes13:15
seb128mdeslaur, thanks13:15
mdeslaurseb128: are you patch piloting? why were you looking at that?13:15
seb128mdeslaur, I'm trying to help to clean a bit the queue recently, since quite some people don't do their shifts and things just stack ...13:17
seb128mdeslaur, but I'm done for now so don't worry about conflicts ;-)13:17
mdeslaurok, cool, thanks13:17
seb128mdeslaur, I was also a bit annoyed by those populary-contest 1 liners taking 3 slots in the queue for over 1 month and being ignored ... seems like a trivial "|| exit 0" should be reviewable by any pilot...13:18
mdeslaurI get the feeling people only look at packages they are familiar with13:22
mdeslaurnot that I'm not guilty of doing that myself sometimes13:22
pittitseliot: hey Alberto, how are you?13:24
pittitseliot: still remember bug 1054458?13:24
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1054458 in ubuntu-drivers-common (Ubuntu Quantal) "nvidia-detector crashed with ValueError in __get_value_from_name(): invalid literal for int() with base 10: 'experimental-304'" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/105445813:24
pittitseliot: this has been the #1 issue reported by users for a while13:24
pittitseliot: tedg submitted a patch in https://code.launchpad.net/~ted/ubuntu/raring/ubuntu-drivers-common/nvidia-experimental-number/+merge/13775413:24
pittitseliot: do you think you can look at this to ensure it's DTRT and commit/upload?13:24
herton@pilot in13:38
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bdmurraympt: bug 108679613:38
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1086796 in Errors "html title does not change" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/108679613:38
rbasakogra_: I can't check highbank due to a separate issue, but flash-kernel-installer appears fixed for armadaxp at least. Do you have SRU plans please?13:49
pittiev: juju ssh errors/0 -L 8081:localhost:8013:51
evpitti: \o/13:52
tseliotpitti: sure, I'll have a look at it14:05
seb128tseliot, hey, did you look at the fglrx requests from the queue I pointed the other day as well?14:06
ogra_rbasak, trying to get that done before end of the week, there are other f-k SRU bits i want in the same upload too14:14
rbasakogra_: OK, thanks!14:14
rickspencer3good morning all14:25
shadeslayerevening rickspencer314:28
didrockshey rickspencer314:32
rickspencer3bonjour didrocks14:33
seb128salut rickspencer314:35
rickspencer3bonjour seb12814:37
herton@pilot out14:48
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infinityAaaan, APR cross-builds, but drops symbols along the way.  Fun.15:03
* infinity compares native/cross configure output.15:03
cjwatsonseb128: hey, are you already on top of the gnutls26 merge?  You're down as TIL via sponsorship.  I'd like to fix its build failure but perhaps if I'm doing that I should merge at the same time (though unstable's package fails in the same way)15:08
seb128cjwatson, I was trying to avoid it in hope somebody else would steal it, so if you want to grab it please do ;-)15:08
cjwatsonheh, ok15:09
infinityAnd Colin once again accidentally ends up TIL on the entire archive.15:09
infinitycjwatson: Oh, do you want me to steal dpkg back from you, by the way?15:10
vibhavI was doing a merge for gnome-pp and saw that the Debian version had added wvdial to Build-Depends15:10
vibhavThis was a fix for the armel architecture15:10
vibhavShould I include this fix? armel is obsoleted in raring15:11
infinityvibhav: Merges should be as close to Debian as possible.15:11
mdeslaurvibhav: that's a useless merge, don't do it15:11
mdeslaurvibhav: aren't you supposed to ask me first, since I TIL?15:11
infinity(Also, what's "gnome-pp", no such source package exists)15:11
vibhavmdeslaur: yes, I was sending off an email to you15:12
vibhavinfinity: gnome-ppp15:12
vibhavs/sending off/writing/15:13
vibhavAnyways, thanks mdeslaur15:13
infinityvibhav: For added bonus, even when we had armel, that patch did nothing for us.15:13
infinityCause wvdial works on Ubuntu/armel.15:13
mdeslaurvibhav: there's plenty of other stuff I TIL that you can steal though :)15:13
* vibhav takes a look15:14
vibhavinfinity: ah yes15:14
infinityvibhav: Anyhow, the general rule of thumb is to not waste time on merges that do nothing at all, but if you were talking about a merge that also had other useful changes, yes, you should include the "do nothing" changes too, to keep the delta low.15:14
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vibhavBut there are not any changes, we can wait for a new version15:16
vibhavThanks infinity15:16
cjwatsoninfinity: Yeah, if you could steal that back from me that'd be great15:25
infinitycjwatson: Will do.15:28
dholbachcan somebody please moderate ubuntu-devel-announce?15:36
cjwatsondholbach: done15:36
dholbachthank you cj15:36
dholbachthank you cjwatson15:36
mptev, bug 108685015:39
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1086850 in Errors "Bucket page graph shows instances rather than error rate" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/108685015:39
infinitypitti: Sweet merciful ARGH.  Why is /usr/bin/pg_config a binary instead of a script?16:23
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infinityarges: bug 943502, why are you doing backports there instead of just cherrypicking the correct TLD lookups?16:28
ubottuLaunchpad bug 943502 in whois (Ubuntu Oneiric) "whois doesn't properly query .hr/.sx/.pe TLDs and incorrect format for whois.arin.net" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/94350216:29
argesok looks like its working16:29
argesinfinity, i think that was my initial approach... trying to remember why I didn't do that16:29
smoserinfinity, so what is the correct policy for the un-namespaced "needs-verification" tag when there are multiple -prposed uploads16:30
argesinfinity, let me give that a shot again16:30
infinityarges: tld_serv_list seems pretty straightforward.16:30
smoserie, as in bug 107892616:30
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1078926 in mountall (Ubuntu Quantal) "raring instance failed to find EC2 datasource" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107892616:30
infinitysmoser: Keep verification-needed set, but add verification-done-precise (or whatever) for the ones verified.16:31
infinitysmoser: The little tag box should autocomplete those.  I think.16:31
smoserah. ok.16:32
infinitysmoser: This may not be the right advice for that specific bug, I'm just saying in general.  -needed while some task skill needs verification, and -done-$foo for the series that have been done.16:32
infinitysmoser: This all falls apart miserably on bugs with multiple packages too. :/16:33
infinity(The SecureBoot metabug is going to be a nightmare)16:33
infinityGaze upon bug 1075181 and weep.16:34
cjwatsonI'm pretty sure that's "wait for it all to work, and promote all at once" ...16:34
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1075181 in ubuntu-defaults-builder (Ubuntu Precise) "Backport UEFI Secure Boot support for Ubuntu 12.04.2" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107518116:34
infinitycjwatson: Yeahp, but we need to go through each task and double-check it's all sane, then promote in a batch.  Will be fun.16:34
smosercould someone on SRU please look at my cloud-init upload in -proposed?16:34
cjwatsonBecause, you know, how else are you going to know :)16:34
barryjodh, slangasek give me just a couple of minutes... if now is a good time16:38
slangasekbarry: wfm16:38
hallynstgraber: slangasek: update to refuse --dir option which already exists to lxc-create sent to the mailing list, thanks.16:38
slangasekhallyn: thank you :-)16:38
hallynfunny thing, I see I wrote it, but I don't remember doing the --dir...  oh well.16:38
stgraberhallyn: :) I'll take a look at the patch and apply it16:39
hallynthanks both16:39
hallynnow back to my qemu packaging disaster16:39
barryslangasek, jodh okay, i have the machine in the stalled state, and i'm ssh'd in.  the last thing i see on the console is "Stopping save kernel messages".  twisty maze and all that. :)16:43
slangasekbarry: yep.  what's the output of 'sudo initctl list', and if the rc job is still running, what does ps fxwa show for its children?16:44
tseliotseb128: yes,16:45
barryslangasek: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1412816/16:45
tseliotseb128: yes, but I haven't merged them yet16:45
seb128tseliot, ok, do you plan to merge them soon? we are trying to clean the sponsoring queue and they are sitting there for some weeks...16:46
slangasekbarry: please run 'sudo chvt 1'16:47
barryslangasek: i'm on vt1 w/ login prompt on console16:48
tseliotseb128: I have more urgent changes to work on but I can do it next week16:48
slangasekbarry: right - so now you're seeing what you're expecting?16:48
jodhbarry: what are all those '*.sh' jobs?16:48
seb128tseliot, ok, thanks, I though those would be trivial and like 15min to merge ignore, no worry16:48
slangasekjodh: those are mountall being enhanced to neuter sysvinit in Debian16:48
barryslangasek: yes, this is what i'd expect by changing the vt16:48
slangasek(runtime neuter)16:49
barryjodh: dunno ;)16:49
slangasekbarry: ok, so would it be fair to characterize this bug as "console is left on wrong VT at end of boot"?16:49
slangasekbarry: or is there still another bug?16:49
barryslangasek: well, i would expect the greeter16:49
slangasekoh, you have lightdm installed16:50
barryslangasek: yep. and when the boot doesn't stall, i see the expected greeter screen16:50
* slangasek points barry in the direction of the desktop team, then :)16:50
slangasekbarry: it's either a kernel or an X bug; doesn't appear that the plumbing is doing anything wrong here16:51
barryslangasek: we've ruled out kernel16:51
barryslangasek: okay. if you're sure the plumbing is working properly, i'll retarget it against x and see what they say ;)16:52
seb128stgraber, pitti: can you reject those?16:53
slangasekbarry: well, I'm also not sure why neither the lightdm nor the failsafe-x jobs are running16:53
pittioui, je peux16:53
jodhbarry/slangasek: this might be bug 969489.16:53
ubottuLaunchpad bug 969489 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "lightdm tries (and fails) to start too early?" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/96948916:53
slangasekbarry: do you have any suggestive logs under /var/log/upstart?16:53
pittiseb128, stgraber: done16:53
seb128pitti, danke16:53
barryjodh: i'll look at that bug in a sec16:53
barryslangasek: % ls -lt *.log16:55
barry-rw-r----- 1 root root 2747439 Dec  5 11:36 ureadahead.log16:55
barry-rw-r----- 1 root root     105 Dec  5 11:35 hybrid-gfx.log16:55
barry-rw-r----- 1 root root     180 Dec  5 11:35 alsa-restore.log16:55
barry-rw-r----- 1 root root    3774 Dec  5 11:35 modemmanager.log16:55
barry-rw-r----- 1 root root    1071 Dec  5 11:35 procps-static-network-up.log16:55
barry-rw-r----- 1 root root      90 Dec  5 11:35 kmod.log16:55
barry-rw-r----- 1 root root      90 Dec  5 11:35 module-init-tools.log16:55
barry-rw-r----- 1 root root     256 Dec  5 11:35 rsyslog.log16:55
barry-rw-r----- 1 root root     192 Dec  5 11:35 dbus.log16:55
barry-rw-r----- 1 root root     138 Dec  5 11:35 container-detect.log16:55
barry-rw-r----- 1 root root    1071 Dec  5 11:35 procps-virtual-filesystems.log16:55
barry-rw-r----- 1 root root     129 Dec  5 11:35 console-setup.log16:55
barry 16:55
slangasekbarry: and that's the time the machine booted?16:55
barryslangasek: no, it's in the stalled state right now16:56
dholbachdidrocks, You're a hero!16:56
slangasekbarry: er, the machine is booted, it just doesn't have lightdm running16:56
didrocksdholbach: I wasn't alone, but thanks :)16:56
barryslangasek: sorry, yes, correct16:56
ogra_dholbach, two heros !16:56
ogra_(he is)16:56
* didrocks hugs dholbach and ogra_16:57
* dholbach hugs you all16:57
barryslangasek, jodh: there's nothing in the upstart logs that standout to me16:57
slangasekbarry: did timestamps on /var/log/lightdm/* or /var/log/Xorg.* update?16:57
barryslangasek: lightdm logs all show 11:35 or :36 today, so in line with upstart logs16:59
slangasekbarry: hmmm.  and the contents of those logs?16:59
barrysame with xorg16:59
barryslangasek: yep, looking now16:59
slangasekbarry: best to attach them to the bug report16:59
* barry nods17:00
mdeslaur@pilot out17:05
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slangasekbarry: mmm, you don't have this set to autologin or something?17:09
barryslangasek: nope17:09
* dholbach hugs mdeslaur17:10
slangasekbarry: and the lightdm.log that's attached is definitely from this latest boot?17:10
barryslangasek, jodh: interestingly, re bug 969489.  if i chvt 1 then sudo start lightdm, i get the greeter window17:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 969489 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "lightdm tries (and fails) to start too early?" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/96948917:10
slangasekbarry: because at +3.62s, there's something interesting happening17:10
barryslangasek: definitely17:10
slangasekbarry: yes, I would fully expect 'sudo start lightdm' to work; that's not dispositive of it being related to bug #96948917:11
barrydo you mean the "greeter start authenitication for barry" and beyond bit?17:11
barryslangasek: ^^17:12
slangasekoh, I bet "start" just means that's the user that was last selected, and whose password box is popped up17:13
barrythat makes more sense (and is what happens)17:13
slangasekbarry: can you show the output of this command, please: grep -l 'start on runlevel .2345' /etc/init/*17:15
barry 17:16
barrymine never drops into low-graphics mode, but it might be worth playing with some of the lightdm start hacks mentioned in bug 96948917:16
ubottuLaunchpad bug 969489 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "lightdm tries (and fails) to start too early?" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/96948917:16
slangasekbarry: hmm, how about this: grep -l 'start on runlevel .2345' /etc/init/* | xargs grep -lE 'kill|stop'17:26
barryslangasek: oops, i just rebooted it (but i saved the state, so hang on a sec)17:26
slangaseker, wait, that one's not useful17:27
slangasekgrep -l '^start on runlevel .2345' /etc/init/* | xargs grep -l kill17:27
barryslangasek: i'm back in the stalled state.  that command returns nothing17:31
slangasekbarry: ok. what it comes down to, I think, is that something non-standard is killing lightdm that shouldn't be; /var/log/lightdm.log gives us enough info to know the pid of what's doing the killing, but not the name.  Given that at and cron have just started, it *could* be a strange cronjob or at job; it's more likely to be something called from an upstart job; booting with --verbose and cross-referencing that output against the 'initctl17:32
slangasek... and the /var/log/lightdm.log from the same boot *may* help isolate this17:32
slangasekbarry: is this a pristine install of quantal?  no chance of extra or modified jobs in /etc/init/17:33
barryslangasek: it's running raring, but probably upgraded from quantal->precise->raring17:33
slangasekso you've said it's not reproducible with a clean precise userspace; have you checked with a freshly installed raring userspace?17:34
barryslangasek: i haven't but that's a good thing to try17:34
barryslangasek: can you (or i will) paste your longer message above into the bug?17:34
barryslangasek: so i think at this point, it's worth bringing up a fresh raring and seeing what happens.  i'll follow up on the bug report once i've done that.  for now... lunch :)17:36
slangasekbarry: dumped that to the bug, along with some further thoughts17:37
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jonois anyone else experiencing random lockups in raring?18:34
jonoUnity seems to lock up18:34
jonoand if I switch to a virtual terminal and back it is fine18:35
seb128jono, when did that start?18:35
jonoseb128, I noticed it at the end of last week18:35
jonoI do get a "I detected a lockup" error18:35
seb128not sure what changed around that time but it's not a known issue afaik18:35
jonoand I mention it happens a few times a day18:35
seb128seems like an #ubuntu-x question/issue18:35
jonobut then I am not sure if that data goes anywhere18:35
jonoseb128, will mention in there18:36
seb128jono, the data should go to errors.ubuntu.com18:36
jonoseb128, ok, there doesnt seem to be confirmation that the data was sent18:36
seb128jono, no, there is none, I think it's a design decision to get out of the user way as much as possible, it's a fire and forget dialog18:37
jonoI see18:37
jonothanks seb12818:38
seb128jono, yw!18:38
seb128jono, you can try to run: firefox 'http://errors.ubuntu.com/user/'$(printf $(sudo cat /sys/class/dmi/id/product_uuid) | sha512sum)18:44
seb128jono, that should open a page showing all the issues you reported, it's not sorted in an useful way though ...18:45
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jonothanks seb12818:54
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marruslHello.  I'm having some trouble with multi-arch dependencies.  I understand apt and dpkg understand :any for build-deps, but do they understand :any for regular depends?  I am not having luck with this.19:01
marruslthe depended-on package is marked "multi-arch: allowed"19:01
jtaylorisn't the :any implicit if the dependency is allowed?19:08
marrusljtaylor, i think that would be the case if the depended-on package was marked "multi-arch: foreign", but with "m-a: allowed" I think the :any is needed.19:13
marruslor else a 32-bit package depending on it will still insist on :i38619:13
jtaylorright allowed is only for arch all19:14
marruslso in this case i'm testing gdb which is in -proposed now with "m-a: allowed" (it was explained to me that "foreign" wouldn't be correct for something like gdb)19:15
marrusland when I create a dummy 32 bit package that depends on gdb:any, it's not working.19:16
marrusli may retry on raring or quantal.  though this is intended for precise.19:16
micahgAIUI, binary :any is only recognized on raring+19:19
marruslmicahg, aha.  that could be it.  i'll recheck on raring.  thanks!19:21
slangasekmarrusl, jtaylor: :any is intended only for use with packages that are M-A: allowed (and has nothing to do with whether the package is Arch: all).  This should work with apt and dpkg as for back as oneiric.19:37
slangasekwhether it's *allowed* in the archive is another question19:37
slangasekmicahg: do you have a source for the claim that :any is only recognized post-raring?  This was supposed to have been supported all along19:38
marruslslangasek, oh no, no worries.  we know it's not going there.  :)19:38
micahgslangasek: oh, hrm, I thought dpkg had issues with it and that was the problem19:38
slangasekyeah - but it should *definitely* work in precise19:38
marruslI must be doing something wrong.  I have to run afk for a bit, but I'll go back over it when I get back.19:38
slangasekmicahg: not that I was aware19:38
slangasekmarrusl: right, so I'm not sure why you're having the problem that you are; it was on my radar to try to test this locally but I haven't gotten to it yet19:39
marruslslangasek, ok.  I'll catch up with you later after I retry.19:40
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phillwHi folks, is there a way to pull in a release from debian/unstable? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libguestfs/+bug/1086974/comments/221:08
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1086974 in libguestfs (Ubuntu) "libguestfs: error: cannot find any suitable libguestfs supermin" [Undecided,New]21:08
tumbleweedphillw: it needs to be merged. xnox touched it last, prod prod21:11
phillwthanks tumbleweed21:11
infinityWe're already up to date on libguestfs, unless it was mismerged.21:14
tumbleweedah, I saw ubuntuX and didn't look at the version21:16
phillwinfinity: I'm on Package: libguestfs-tools 1:1.18.5-2 the newer one is 1.18.5-321:17
tumbleweedphillw: 1:1.18.10-1ubuntu2 is published21:18
infinityphillw: Oh, you're running Quantal.21:18
slangasekphillw: the new version is merged in raring, not in quantal21:18
phillwI'm on quantal, do I need to grab this from raring?21:18
slangasekif you're requesting that this be fixed in quantal in particular, you'll need to 'nominate for release' on the bug.  But if you just want to test, yes, you should be able to grab the package from raring.21:19
phillwI'm okay with temp allowing raring to test. which deb would it be? (universe / main etc..) So I can add it, then disable to confirm it works for Q21:20
slangasekphillw: you can find the .deb in launchpad by browsing https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libguestfs/21:21
slangasek(click on version; click on architecture; find .deb file on page and click)21:21
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phillwslangasek: sorry to be pain, I'm on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libguestfs/1:1.18.10-1ubuntu2/+build/3960859 in order to get all the updates which should I choose?21:27
infinityphillw: dpkg -l \*guestfs\* | awk '/^i/ {print $2}'21:28
infinity... Which won't get guestfish.  What a silly name.21:29
infinityphillw: dpkg -l \*guestf\* | awk '/^i/ {print $2}'21:29
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phillwinfinity: ooh.. depedency hell :P Let me have a play.21:37
* infinity facepalms as he realises that the linux32 personality for aarch64 is armv8l instead of armv7l.21:55
infinityThat's remarkably... Useless.21:55
infinityBut at least they have a 32-bit personality to fix.21:56
slangasekarmv8l - that's just the name, yes?21:58
infinityslangasek: It's what "linux32 uname -m" produces on an aarch64 kernel.22:17
infinityslangasek: About as useless as if x86_64 said "i786" instead of the much more pleasant lie of "i686".22:17
infinityAnyhow, I think I'll bug someone about that, since the most obvious use-case for "linux32" most of the world over is "building brain-dead software on a 64-bit host", all of which has configure scripts looking for armv7l. :P22:19
phillwslangasek: how do I add a 'nominate for release' to the bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libguestfs/+bug/1086974/comments/322:42
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1086974 in libguestfs (Ubuntu) "libguestfs: error: cannot find any suitable libguestfs supermin" [Undecided,New]22:42
phillwzero regression risk, as it didn't use to work :D22:42
mwhudsonthat's the "upstream developer thinks ubuntu is stupid" bug?22:48
slangasekphillw: there should be a link with that as its title; or maybe 'Target to release'22:59
cjwatsonYou only get either if you're in at least ubuntu-bugcontrol23:00
slangasekright, I assumed phillw was23:03
phillwcjwatson: slangasek I'll go a hunting 'TheLordOfTime" in that case :) But, it does work and I hope I've put enough information on there for you guys to allow it into 'Q'.23:03
phillwslangasek: I'm only bug-squad, not bug-control :)23:03
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arosenAnyone know off hand if there is a way to make debchange not prompt for input in an editor?23:55
sarnoldarosen: try unsetting TERM first?23:56
sarnold(there's surely a better way, but I've seen some of those scripts say "TERM unset, <skipping something>"23:56
arosensarnold: nope it says Error opening terminal: unknown.23:57
maxbarosen: In what mode?23:59

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