| xnox | cjwatson: how was the original timezone map done? Can that be updated, cause a few countries have changed "default" timezones. | 14:23 |
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| cjwatson | xnox: I'm not entirely sure - ask ev | 14:35 |
| ev | we're chatting about it now | 14:39 |
| ScottK | If one hits quit in the first page of the installer (ubiquity), is the designed behavior to start a lilve session or to go back to the do you want to try or install screen? | 17:02 |
| ogra_ | live session iirc | 17:02 |
| ScottK | Thanks. | 17:03 |
| ScottK | Then it's working ... | 17:03 |
| ScottK | If an install is apparently halted at system installation 67% and Ubiquity is eating ~all the CPU, any immediate suggestions on how to figure out where I'm stuck (this is an encrypted LVM install)? | 19:36 |
| ScottK | xnox: ^^^ suggestions? | 19:38 |
| infinity | ScottK: Nothing interesting in syslog? | 19:45 |
| * ScottK looks | 19:45 | |
| ScottK | It says something about media change. | 19:47 |
| ScottK | The USB is there and mounted though. | 19:47 |
| ScottK | There's also a depmod error a little bit further up about failed to symbolic link | 19:48 |
| ScottK | Linux-image postinst failed. | 19:48 |
| infinity | postinsts failing sounds bad. | 19:50 |
| infinity | The installer should probably notice such things and error out, instead of appearing to hang, mind you. :P | 19:50 |
| ScottK | infinity: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1413155/ | 19:50 |
| infinity | But that's probably the problem. | 19:50 |
| ScottK | I did encrypted LVM on this system on Monday and it worked. | 19:51 |
| * ScottK wonders did something change or is it gremlins? | 19:51 | |
| infinity | Oh, that may not be a failed postinst, just a verbose one. | 19:51 |
| ScottK | Ah. Right. | 19:52 |
| infinity | It's certainly the media change event there that screwed you. | 19:52 |
| infinity | But why or how that happened, I dunno. | 19:52 |
| ScottK | OK. | 19:52 |
| ScottK | Maybe I bumped the usb stick. | 19:52 |
| infinity | Unless your CD is actually incomplete. | 19:52 |
| ScottK | I've done several installs with it already. | 19:53 |
| infinity | (That's the same message you get with d-i on multiple-CD installs... Which we don't do) | 19:53 |
| infinity | Kay, if it's worked before, you may have just had some cosmic rays. | 19:53 |
| infinity | Or /cdrom/ genuinely has nothing in it due to some other random bug umounting or mounting over it. | 19:54 |
| infinity | If you remember how you got there, I'd give it a whirl to reproduce. | 19:54 |
| ScottK | I'm trying again. | 19:54 |
| ScottK | I did check that the USB was present and mounted. | 19:54 |
| ScottK | So perhaps I bumped it or something and then Ubiquity failed to notice when it reappeared? | 19:55 |
| infinity | Possibly. Dunno. A lot of maybes at this point. | 19:55 |
| infinity | Ones I'll fail to care about if a second try works. | 19:55 |
| infinity | It may be high time for us to rename /cdrom/ in casper/d-i/etc to avoid looking like we live in the past. | 19:55 |
| ScottK | I'm glad I've done this install enough times that knowing the language I'm installing in isn't important. | 20:06 |
| infinity | Heh. | 20:20 |
| infinity | I still get messed up sometimes when I test software in right-to-left languages. | 20:20 |
| ScottK | Officially gremlins I guess. It's past the point it hung last time. | 20:31 |
| ScottK | Here's a bit of a conundrum ... | 21:37 |
| ScottK | When installing with lvm/encryption, passphrase entry is done before you select your keyboard. | 21:37 |
| ScottK | So if it turns out that your keyboard selection is wrong and you fix it, then the keyboard layout you install with is different than the one you set your passphrase with. | 21:38 |
| ScottK | Which can make some passphrases hard to type ... | 21:38 |
| infinity | That seems a bit backward. Shouldn't language/keyboard be the first things asked? | 21:46 |
| infinity | xnox: You still around? | 21:46 |
| cjwatson | We've been round in circles with design on this for years. | 21:47 |
| cjwatson | A quick IRC discussion won't solve it. | 21:47 |
| infinity | Kay.. | 21:48 |
| cjwatson | Bringing partitioning forward was a genuine win in many ways (it's one of the things people often praise when they talk to me about the installer in person), but it does raise this awkward case | 21:48 |
| cjwatson | The best compromise we've found was to add a keyboard indicator | 21:48 |
| cjwatson | I don't recall what the KDE frontend has, though | 21:48 |
| infinity | Yeah, but the keyboard indicator does you no good if you don't realise this particular problem will be a problem. | 21:49 |
| infinity | Especially since passphrases are blind, so you may not know you're typing it "wrong". | 21:49 |
| cjwatson | Yeah, I guess it may be worth providing some kind of hint specially for the crypto case | 21:50 |
| cjwatson | We can't just pull keyboard back though - that involves pulling location back as well (for sane defaults) and at that point we've lost most of the gain from parallel questions | 21:51 |
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