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slangasekyay, habemus botem16:02
slangasek[TOPIC] lightning round16:03
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slangasek$ echo $(shuf -e barry doko stgraber jodh ev bdmurray slangasek ogra cjwatson xnox stokachu)16:03
slangasekogra stokachu jodh ev slangasek doko cjwatson xnox bdmurray stgraber barry16:03
ogra_ * flash-kernel fixes and SRUs (pending an upload to quantal)16:03
ogra_ * fix various image bits of nexus716:03
ogra_ * work out a "serial console by default" setup for nexus7 (just attach the USB cable and use screen/minicom from your desktop from tomorrow on, no more openssh server needed for debug shells)16:03
ogra_ * finally got nux into the archive with all armhf fixes for nexus7, tomorrows image should be fully usable16:03
ogra_ * meeting for discussing the remaining WIs of https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-r-reduced-power-ram (carried over again)16:03
ogra_ * book vacation for the rest of december16:04
cjwatson(is the nominative bots, botis, or botes?)16:04
stokachubug 1084863 - needs nomination approval16:04
stokachubug 1012900, bug 1004775 - working with assigned engineers to get these uploaded for precise16:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1084863 in parallel (Ubuntu) "Please upgrade to latest parallel-20121122" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/108486316:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1012900 in sssd (Ubuntu Precise) "Using SSSD, PAM error when exiting su session" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/101290016:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1004775 in network-manager (Ubuntu Precise) "NetworkManager restarts dnsmasq and adds host route on every IPv6 route lookup" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/100477516:04
jodh* bug 1083723: reworked and re-raised MP (awaiting feedback).16:05
jodh* bug 1079715: reworked and re-raised MP (awaiting feedback).16:05
jodh* bug 1086474: continued investigations.16:05
jodh* reviewed lp:~stgraber/upstart/upstart-dbus-events16:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1083723 in upstart "'telinit u' has a cage fight with busybox init" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/108372316:05
jodh* reviewed lp:~stgraber/upstart/upstart-initgroups and merged.16:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1079715 in upstart "'telinit u' run from within a chroot causes a crash" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107971516:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1086474 in upstart "test_job_process can fail in test 'with environment of unnamed instance'" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/108647416:05
jodh* reviewed lp:~xnox/upstart/fix-qemu-test and merged.16:05
jodh* reviewed lp:~stgraber/upstart/upstart-prctl.16:05
jodh* TODO:16:05
jodh  - merge lp:~stgraber/upstart/upstart-prctl.16:05
jodh  - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FoundationsTeam/Specs/RaringUpstartUserSessions16:05
jodh    - upates for PAM.16:05
cjwatsonstokachu: if bug 1084863 is for -updates rather than -backports, shouldn't we be identifying the relevant patches rather than doing a wholesale backport?16:05
jodh    - updates for confdir/override handling.16:05
* xnox ev promises a double long post next week.16:06
stokachucjwatson: parallel would be a full  backporrt for precise16:06
cjwatsonstokachu: that's contrary to the usual SRU practice, so it would need special justification16:06
stokachucjwatson: but quantal we would need to specify the patches, so we can remove that nomination16:06
stokachuand raring is just a blanket upgrade16:06
cjwatsonoh, parallel isn't in precise at all?  then we'd need to have a reason it's needed16:07
cjwatsonwait.  is the intended state precise-backports + quantal-updates + raring?16:07
stokachucjwatson: yea :D16:08
cjwatsonin that case, we don't want the precise task - that'll be handled by the backport16:08
stokachuah ok16:08
cjwatsonwe do want the quantal and raring tasks, but for quantal it will need to be a targeted patch exercise16:08
stokachucjwatson: gotcha so we should remove nominations and I can create a separate bug for quantal?16:08
stokachufor specific fixes16:09
cjwatsonNo, leave it as it is now16:09
xnoxstokachu: status fixed, refresh.16:09
stokachucool thanks :D16:09
slangasekcjwatson: no reason a third-declension noun can't have "bot" as its nominative :)16:09
xnoxstokachu: we can split later if we decide so, cause e.g. it will need backports & sru templates on it.16:09
slangasekno ev today due to crashdb sprinting16:09
slangasekmine is:16:10
slangasek * working with desktop team on X stack backports for 12.04.216:10
slangasek * upstart branch reviews16:10
slangasek * further work to get upstart 1.6 ready to go into Debian testing16:10
slangasek * fixing a regression in mountall discovered in the cloud only after SRU (bug #1078926)16:10
stokachuxnox: sounds good thanks16:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1078926 in mountall (Ubuntu Quantal) "raring instance failed to find EC2 datasource" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107892616:10
slangasek * looked at plymouth in lxc16:10
cjwatsonslangasek: touché16:10
doko* last week16:10
doko- more toolchain work, upstreaming 4.8 patches, fixing issues in the 4.8 packaging16:10
doko- gcc-4.7, binutils updates for raring.16:10
doko- review linaro arm-none-gnueabi packaging16:10
doko* this week16:10
doko- finish python3.3 multiarch packaging16:10
doko- move the python3.3 multiarch packaging to 2.7, and clean up things16:10
doko- prepare python-defaults and python3-defaults multiarch changes16:10
doko- start documenting python multiarch16:10
doko- look at the cross packaging, removing the ad-hoc solutions, and configure --with-sysroot=/16:10
doko- finally investigating how to build multilib'd cross toolchains16:10
doko- llvm-3.2 update, look at clang 3.216:10
slangasek--with-sysroot=/ \o/16:11
slangasekcjwatson: I guess you'll be exercising that toolchain soon, to confirm it really works without extra flags?16:12
cjwatsonSo that's what fixes the -rpath-link stuff?16:12
slangasekAIUI yes16:12
slangasekthe binutils upload specifically16:12
dokoit should, yes. binutils is already in the archive16:12
cjwatsonI can clear out w-b and have it retry from scratch16:12
dokoand the armhf cross binutils too16:12
cjwatsonHow about the "STRIP CFLAGS -fstack-protector" that we're still carrying?16:13
cjwatsonAh, that was just for arm64 because it didn't have a libssp16:13
slangasekthat's aarch64-specific16:13
dokonot yet ported to arm6416:13
slangasekcjwatson: your go, I think16:14
cjwatsonOK, I'll go through my sbuild charm and conditionalise the bits that are quantal and/or arm64 only16:14
cjwatsonLots of merges.16:14
cjwatsonContinuing to push SB up the hill in 12.04.  Now boots, according to stgraber, but fails to install correctly.16:14
cjwatsonMany cross-build fixes, and adding M-A: foreign to things.  gettext unblocked.  Auto-cross-builder now publishing: http://people.canonical.com/~cjwatson/cross/armhf/raring/16:14
cjwatsonFixed arcane coreutils/powerpc build failure.16:15
cjwatsonFixed net-tools build failure.16:15
cjwatsonFixed ubiquity not to remove kernel headers just because it's removing a same-flavour signed kernel (bug 1070427).16:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1070427 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Quantal) "Ubiquity removes kernel headers, fails to build nonfree drivers" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107042716:15
cjwatsonMultiarchified libplymouth{2,-dev}.16:15
cjwatsonFixed up build-essential to stop claiming that python-minimal is Essential.16:15
cjwatsonFixed ubiquity regression in question dialog handling that broke auto-resizing (bug 1085961).16:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1085961 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Unable to install two raring desktops side-by-side" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/108596116:15
cjwatsonThere's a question in that last-but-one bug about publishing updated 12.10 images ...16:15
xnox* Fixed upstart race in the unit-test, now we pass adt tests in with16:15
xnox  lp:upstart.16:15
xnox* Working on upstart user configuration directories.16:15
xnox* Joined co-working from the office with evan, brian and pitti.16:15
xnox* Guiding upgrade user experience work for raring.16:15
cjwatsonWhich, well.  It's possible but some work16:15
stgraber - Upstart16:16
stgraber  - Did a few more changes on the initgroups branch, was merged today.16:16
stgraber  - Cleaned up and ported initctl2dot to python316:16
stgraber  - Some cleanup work on the upstart-dconf-bridge at: lp:~stgraber/upstart/upstart-dconf-bridge16:16
stgraber  - Started poking at libnih to fix the 'as' type handling for the dbus-events branch16:16
stgraber  - Cleaned up the prctl branch a little based on James' comment, now proposed for merging.16:16
stgraber - Container16:16
stgraber  - Getting ready for 0.9~alpha1 release next week.16:16
stgraber  - Quite a lot of code review for patches being sent upstream.16:16
stgraber  - Extended lxc-device to support moving network devices to containers.16:16
stgraber  - Made python optional upstream, falling back to "legacy" shell scripts when not available.16:16
stgraber  - Improved some of the existing python scripts to better deal with a non-root user.16:16
stgraber  - lxc-create now stores the name of the template, arguments and sha1sum in the container's configuration.16:16
stgraber  - lxc-ubuntu now installs any needed language pack in the container based on the list of langpacks installed on the host.16:16
stgraber - Release16:16
stgraber  - Taking care of the alpha-1 release for the few participating flavours.16:16
stgraber - Networking16:17
stgraber  - Looking at reducing the delta between Debian and Ubuntu for bridge-utils. Will add some code to detect upstart-udev-bridge and change the codepath accordingly.16:17
stgraber - Other16:17
stgraber  - Did some UEFI secureboot testing for Colin.16:17
stgraber - TODO16:17
stgraber  - Release alpha-1.16:17
stgraber  - Work on libnih and get the dbus-events upstart branch to work.16:17
stgraber  - Prepare the pull request for the 0.9~alpha1 LXC release.16:17
stgraber  - Prepare a patch for bridge-utils to detect upstart and send that to Debian.16:17
barrylast week: bug #1077076 (oneconf py3 & oauthlib). bug #1058029 (code review). bug #1061149 (probably not a kernel bug, maybe jodh can take a look?). pykde4 plugin port to py3. review apport-valgrind for kylen. tox 1.4.2-2. virtualenv 1.8.4. python-defaults 2.7.3-3ubuntu2. this week: finish up (i hope) oneconf; look at twisted py3 port and our dependencies; continue eradication of python-oauth on ubuntu-desktop.  𝄢16:17
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1077076 in oneconf (Ubuntu) "Switch from python-oauth to python-oauthlib" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107707616:17
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1058029 in upstart (Ubuntu) "Port initctl2dot to Python 3" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/105802916:17
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1061149 in linux (Ubuntu) "boot occasionally hangs while "Checking battery state..."" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/106114916:17
slangasekcjwatson: updated 12.10 images> right, it's possible but I don't think it's realistic that we'll have the cycles to spend on this16:18
cjwatsonyeah :-/16:18
cjwatsonI guess I could publish an SRU and switch on the offer-people-an-installer-upgrade bit16:18
slangasekcjwatson: that seems a reasonable middle ground16:20
slangasekany questions wrt statuses?16:20
slangasek(speaking of bad latin declinations)16:20
slangasek[TOPIC] Bugs16:21
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slangasekbdmurray isn't here to drive this, so I suppose it'll be a quick topic16:21
slangasekanyone want to raise anything here?16:21
barrybug #1061149 is still confounding me16:22
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1061149 in linux (Ubuntu) "boot occasionally hangs while "Checking battery state..."" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/106114916:22
stokachuone sec16:22
barrywe now think it is not a kernel problem.  perhaps upstart?  any suggestions for more things to test would be welcome16:23
stokachucan i bring up another backport bug thats been sitting around for several months?16:24
jodhbarry: unlikely to be a bug in upstart itself. The acpi service is in the sysv side of the world, but it might be an odd interaction between sysv+upstart jobs possibly.16:24
slangasekI don't think it's likely to have anything to do with sysv+upstart16:24
xnoxstokachu: go ahead.16:24
stokachubug 94350216:25
ubottuLaunchpad bug 943502 in whois (Ubuntu Oneiric) "whois doesn't properly query .hr/.sx/.pe TLDs and incorrect format for whois.arin.net" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/94350216:25
jodhbarry: when you say the boot hangs - do you mean the machine is actually dead? magic sysrq any help?16:25
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slangasekit's more likely that something has stalled and preventing the boot from getting any further due to a missing event of some kind16:25
slangasekbarry: boot with --verbose and capture the last bits on the screen?16:25
barryjodh: ctrl-alt-del kills acpid and reboots it16:25
jodhbarry: serial console output ideally.16:25
infinitystokachu: Why backport wholesale instead of SRUing the correct TLD info in?16:26
stokachuarges: ^16:26
slangasekbarry: also, a listing of /etc/rc2.d/ on the affected machine16:26
barrythe console output is somewhat unpredictable, but after the boot stalls, ctrl-alt-del *always* shows acpid getting killed16:26
jodhbarry: what about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key ?16:26
barryi'd say the boot stalls roughly 50% of the time (but not exactly 50%)16:27
slangasekstokachu: no arges on this channel.  anyway, though infinity phrased it as a question, you will have better results by applying targeted fixes instead of doing a backport16:28
slangasekfirst, because the backport team is orthogonal to the normal sponsorship queue / SRU process16:28
jodhbarry: but is the machine dead? does the caps lock light still respond? is the VM process maxed at 100% cpu?16:28
barryjodh: that might be tricky.  this is a vm ;)16:28
slangaseksecond, because backports aren't enabled for users by default16:28
barryslangasek: i'll past the ls into the issue16:28
slangasekbarry: ta16:28
stokachuslangasek: ok let me talk to the OP and see wth is going on16:28
slangasekstokachu: ok, sounds good16:28
barryjodh: the machine isn't actually dead. iirc i can ssh into it16:29
jodhbarry: it's possible to sysrq with kvm+virtualbox.16:29
jodhbarry: ok.16:29
slangasekbarry: chvt 2?  (this rules out a console hang, vs. things just not having been handed off to the 'tty1' service)16:30
stokachu slangasek, infinity: we are going to go over the bug again and see about taking a better approach16:30
stokachubug is pretty old and the history is lost on it16:30
slangasekbarry: also, if you can ssh in, you can get a process list and an upstart job list; we would want to see the state of the 'rc' and 'plymouth' jobs when the hang happens16:30
slangasekstokachu: ack16:31
slangasekany other bugs?16:31
jodhright. remove splash and quiet on kernel cmdline too.16:31
slangaseknot at the same time as doing the other tests :)16:32
barryslangasek: yep.  jodh already splashless and chatty :)16:32
slangasekremoving 'splash' is a big hammer16:32
slangasekso it's almost certainly not a plymouth console-related hang16:32
barryslangasek, jodh perhaps... let me get it into the stalled state and we can poke at it in real time?16:32
barry(after this meeting or later today?)16:33
slangasekbarry: can do16:33
slangasek[TOPIC] AOB16:33
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jodhbarry: k16:33
slangasekanything else?16:33
ogra_infinity, do you plan to re-introduce weekly reports to ubuntu-release before end of the year ?16:34
ogra_(if so i need to find someone stepping in for me during vacation)16:34
infinityogra_: Yes.  I was meta-nagged to nag people.16:34
* ogra_ hasnt recieved a nag yet16:34
infinityogra_: I'll be nagging today. :P16:34
ogra_i was actually expecting it :)16:35
ogra_(thats why i asked)16:35
slangasekinfinity: is the nag covering all the changes to the requested report format?16:35
slangaseklike, axing the "bugs currently worked on" thing16:35
infinityslangasek: I have to go back and poke the spec, but yes.16:35
slangasekinfinity: great :)16:36
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meetingologyMeeting ended Wed Dec  5 16:37:34 2012 UTC.16:37
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slangasekthe end!16:37
slangasekthanks all16:37
ogra_thanks !16:38
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