[08:32] <zyga> good morning
[08:49] <pitti> Good morning
[08:56] <jibel> good morning everyone
[08:56] <pitti> bonjour jibel, ça va?
[08:56] <jibel> Hey pitti, ça va et toi ?
[08:57] <pitti> jibel: je vais bien! il pleut à Londres, surprise :)
[08:58] <pitti> nous améliorons daisy
[08:58] <jibel> pitti, heh, surprising, isn't it? I'm just on the other side of the channel and the weather is not that different :)
[08:58] <pitti> it even had been sunny yesterday!
[08:58] <pitti> I filed a bug report about it right away, of course; and it seems it got fixed quickly :-P
[08:59] <jibel> pitti, nice, are you improving specific parts of daisy, or daisy in general?
[08:59] <pitti> jibel: we designed how to detect regressions in SRUs and the dev release yesterday
[09:00] <pitti> I have constructed some standard .crash files on all platforms that we can use for CI testing of daisy deployments
[09:00] <pitti> (i. e. a package which will construct them automatically, and a package recipe to build them all with two clicks)
[09:00] <pitti> and I'm teaching apport to retrace ARM reports
[09:01] <pitti> today I'd like to fix an actual bug in daisy
[09:16] <Noskcaj> how do you get temporary ops status?
[09:16] <Noskcaj> i was going to fix the topic
[10:05] <gema_> xnox: ping
[10:06] <gema_> pitti, jibel what is pleut? snow?
[10:06] <gema_> :D
[10:06] <gema_> pluja, it is rain
[10:06] <pitti> gema_: non, snow == "il neige", "il pleut" -> it rains
[10:07] <gema_> pitti: it was all white this morning in cambridge
[10:07] <gema_> :D
[10:07] <gema_> it's melting already with the sun, though
[10:07] <jibel> gema_, regnen
[10:08] <gema_> jibel: danke
[10:19] <xnox> balloons: interesting, but lubuntu should be working with lxce window manager & not metacity.
[10:19] <xnox> gema_: heya =)
[10:20] <gema_> xnox: you are probably very busy, but bug 106327 called my attention and I wonder if you know who is working on it
[10:20] <gema_> xnox: or 1060327, rather
[10:21] <gema_> xnox: there are plenty of duplicates being raised on this by all the manual testers
[10:21] <gema_> and it is blocking them
[10:26] <jibel> bug 1060327
[10:27] <xnox> gema_: let me talk to people.
[10:28] <gema_> thanks xnox, everyone is complaining but I don't see any developer activity on them, so it needs some attention
[11:27] <zyga> pitti: hi, is it possible to run autopkgtests for something that is in a PPA officially?
[11:28] <zyga> pitti: we're lookig if we can use autopkgtests to run the bulk of our daily package testing
[11:33] <pitti> :w
[11:40] <pitti> zyga: yes, run-adt-test has a --ppa option
[11:40] <zyga> pitti: do we need to maintain our own jenkins or can we use the same one that runs for ubuntu packages?
[11:41] <pitti> zyga: I'm not sure, that's a question for jibel
[11:41] <zyga> jibel, ara: ^^
[11:41] <zyga> (ara will be interested as well)
[11:41] <zyga> pitti: thanks for the --ppa option, I'm tring it out now
[11:42] <zyga> (ara's machine crashed)
[11:42] <zyga> the ppa option works great, thanks pitti!
[11:44] <zyga> pitti: would you accept patches that add support for source branches from git, not bzr?
[11:45] <zyga> ara: I've just asked if we could use the autopkgtest jenkins that tests ubuntu to run our daily ppa tests as well
[11:45] <zyga> ara: jibel should be answer that
[11:46] <pitti> zyga: sure
[11:46] <zyga> pitti: thanks
[11:48] <ara> zyga, cool
[11:48] <ara> let see, he might be at lunch :)
[11:53] <zyga> oh, how ironic, autopkgtest is in git already
[11:53] <zyga> pitti: the upstream uses git, not bzr+launchpad, correct?
[11:54] <pitti> zyga: right
[11:54] <zyga> OMG, the code is pretty ugly
[11:54] <pitti> oh, you looked at it for the first time?
[11:54] <pitti> you may vomit now
[11:55] <zyga> yes
[11:55] <pitti> zyga: yes, it's Ian Jackson's inimitable "Perl with C64 basic identifiers that happen to be parseable Python"
[11:55] <zyga> is the upstream conductive to intrusive patches
[11:55] <zyga> like pep8 and tests?
[11:55] <zyga> and docs
[11:55] <pitti> not sure, our patches always take a while to get reviewed
[11:55] <pitti> might be better to ask them beforehand
[11:56] <zyga> simple patches or big ones
[11:56] <zyga> ok
[11:56] <zyga> eh :)
[11:56] <pitti> simple ones
[11:56] <pitti> many of them went in fast
[11:56] <pitti> but some have been stuck for a while
[11:56]  * zyga looks at the .1 man page, written by hand
[11:56] <zyga> impressive too
[11:57] <zyga> pitti: yeah, it's just perl that parses as python, quite accurate
[11:59] <zyga> oh, python with tabs _and_ spaces
[12:00] <zyga> man, I need a coffee
[13:58] <gema_> zyga: we discussed this on the meeting you missed on Friday
[13:58] <gema_> :P
[13:59] <gema_> zyga: do you have your certs already?
[14:05] <zyga> gema_: hey
[14:05] <zyga> gema_: I'm in a meeting now, I'll get back to you soon
[14:05] <gema_> zyga: sure
[14:05] <zyga> gema_: we're starting to use autopkgtests for checkbox, so hopefully we can integrate that into the normal ubuntu testing easily
[14:06] <gema_> zyga: ack
[14:06] <zyga> gema_: that friday was unfortunate, I did miss two important meetings
[14:07] <gema_> zyga: ack
[14:08] <plars> xnox: not sure if you noticed, or if anyone mentioned, but cyphermox pushed a fix for the NM issue yesterday, and those automated jobs are starting to flow again
[14:08] <zyga> plars: hey
[14:08] <plars> xnox: I'm sure there will be more fires to fight, but at least that one is taken care of
[14:08]  * gema_ hugs cyphermox, even though he is not here
[14:08] <plars> heya zyga
[14:08] <xnox> plars: thanks for ping. I do get jenkins rss feeds, but i am not up to date on them.
[14:09] <gema_> xnox: we are starting to kick with our new smoke tests, but not 100% there yet
[14:53] <zyga> plars: re
[14:53] <zyga> plars: I do but it's not based on serial
[14:53] <zyga> plars: it's something from the webos world but it's tiny and self-contained
[14:54] <zyga> plars: let me pull it up
[14:55] <zyga> plars: https://github.com/openwebos/novacomd this is the part that runs on the device
[14:56] <zyga> plars: it even has the upstart configuration file :)
[14:56] <zyga> plars: this is the part that runs on the "desktop" https://github.com/openwebos/novacom
[14:56] <plars> zyga: I'll take a look, thanks
[14:56] <zyga> plars: it should be interesting to build this actually
[14:56] <zyga> plars: I could give it a try on snowball
[18:05] <xnox> So the daily smokes on desktop are currently blocked by bug 1086772. I reviewed maxes fix & improved on it.
[18:06] <xnox> see attached branches
[18:20] <ScottK> Is there a bug tag now for bugs that are regressions in the development release from the current release?  It used to be regression-potential.
[18:33] <ScottK> Nevermind
[19:42] <Noskcaj> when running in live mode and selecting install ubuntu from the desktop a new tile on the launcher appears even though a link is already inplace on the launcher.
[19:42] <Noskcaj> if you click it the new tile isn't made
[19:42] <Noskcaj> what is this a bug in?
[19:57] <balloons> ohh you get double icons in the bar?
[19:59] <Noskcaj> balloons, yes
[20:00] <Noskcaj> also can i suggest we have a "changes" section in each testsuite, similar to netboot's
[20:11] <Noskcaj> third thing: why are there so many launcher tiles by defualt, they dont even fit on my VM's screen
[20:23] <Noskcaj> balloons: as scottk said, can you update the topic as we are testing the edubuntu alpha 1
[20:24] <balloons> Noskcaj, the launcher tiles decision is ubuntu dev's
[20:24] <balloons> they added two more tiles last cycle
[20:24] <balloons> they may re-examine it at some point, but I agree it's a bit much
[20:25] <balloons> Noskcaj, what do you mean by a changes section?
[20:25] <Noskcaj> have a look at a netboot testsuites page, you will see
[20:26] <balloons> Noskcaj, ohh
[20:26] <balloons> that's what you mean
[20:27] <balloons> that lists the package changes
[20:27] <balloons> each iso is really made of lots of pacakge
[20:27] <balloons> but hmm
[20:27] <balloons> I wonder if listing ubiquity changelog would be useful
[20:32] <Noskcaj> for bug reports it would be, and thats what i was meaning. maybe also have one or two other packages that we find bugs while iso testing
[20:32] <Noskcaj> e.g. partman
[20:38] <phillw> Noskcaj: I've not been able to fully update bug 1085171 I've had an issue myself to pull out the log files that are needed bug 1086974 I'm going to switch to my CentOS system and re-attempt.
[20:40] <Noskcaj> phillw, 1085171 is a duplicate now, even though its the older bug
[20:43] <phillw> Noskcaj: as long as the details are all kept together, it doesn't really matter :)
[20:44] <phillw> Noskcaj: as the -release team are on the case, I expect a fix real soon :)
[20:45] <Noskcaj> ok
[20:46] <phillw> Noskcaj: by the way. with reference to your classroom session... The current thinking is that people download the raring iso of what ever flavour / arch that they want to test, rather than us force them to download an iso they will not use for testing.
[20:48] <Noskcaj> phillw, ok, it helps if its a day old too
[20:49] <Noskcaj> phillw, is bug 1085825 actually a bug or just the theme being slightly difficult?
[20:49] <Noskcaj> i have posted the questing in #lubuntu already
[20:49] <Noskcaj> *question
[20:50] <phillw> Noskcaj: I *think* that is a sort of known issue that has a base a little deeper in the theme. I'm pretty sure that Rafael is well on top of it now.
[20:53] <Noskcaj> ok