[10:27] <rmg51> Morning
[11:27] <JonathanD> Hey.
[12:25] <waltman> Yo.
[13:02] <InHisName> Here !
[13:14] <teddy-dbear> Morning people
[13:14] <teddy-dbear> what happened to the "s"?
[14:23] <jedijf> waltman: you going to plug tonight?
[14:25] <JonathanD> Is there a need for a projector tonight, too?
[14:26] <jedijf> JonathanD: no
[14:26] <JonathanD> Ok.
[14:26] <JonathanD> Good.
[14:26] <jedijf> err, i don't believe so, but then again last time i was at central i think everything was green and it /wasn't/ the lsd
[14:26] <JonathanD> oh, central :p
[14:26] <JonathanD> I was following the west thread, thought that was tonight.
[14:27] <JonathanD> and they've been talking about projectors.
[14:27] <jedijf> i think i saw something about that too
[14:27] <jedijf> west pizza projectors
[15:03] <waltman> jedijf: Yes.
[15:04] <waltman> mjd's December talks are the plug event of the year :)
[15:06] <jedijf> waltman: i know, and i've never been, so i am debating
[15:06] <jedijf> he seemed shocked at FOSSCON when i said "you're the december plug guy"
[15:07] <jedijf> i guess caledars aren't high order
[15:07] <jedijf> calendars
[15:09] <waltman> nor is speling
[15:09] <waltman> spelling
[15:09]  * waltman ducks
[15:12] <JonathanD> I can't go anywhere tonight.
[15:12] <JonathanD> Crissi's last night in town.
[15:23] <waltman> :(
[18:06] <InHisName> Tough question for ubuntu wizards:  I have a hard machine and virtual one. I installed 12.10 on each, NEW in empty partition.   Bit transmission (with defaults all the way) acts different.   Virtual mach, both http and https trackers are found and connect.    On REAL machine, only http trackers are found.   https ones shows "cannot connect to tracker" in tracker status.  Network not blocking it.   Can browse to https://same site as tracker and login
[18:30] <ChinnoDog> What happens if you close transmission on the virtual machine and wait 5 minutes. Does it start working on the real machine?
[18:34] <InHisName> No, I was running the bad one only, then made the virtual one to test out if ubuntu was problem.  It works with the other sitting out there.   I use diff ports.    Oh the virt good one had a closed port for the test that worked.   The bad machine failed with both a closed port and also with an open one.
[18:36] <InHisName> I tried the resident expert in #transmission, we are at 'goat level' and bring out the black candles too, he says.
[18:37] <InHisName> Does older hardware present a problem like '99 or '00 vintage stuff ?   2GB & 2.4GHz one cpu one thread.
[18:37] <ChinnoDog> That has nothing to do with a high level app like transmission
[18:38] <InHisName> then it should run on antique hardware as long as linux is functional ?
[18:38] <ChinnoDog> I suspect a network problem but you can verify. Boot it up on LiveCD and try to download something.
[18:38] <InHisName> I can run Live CD and bit transmission ?
[18:39] <ChinnoDog> You can run anything youw ant on LiveCD provided you have enough memory
[18:39] <InHisName> OK, I'll try that.
[18:50] <InHisName> weird I get strange error:    -->EDD: Error 1000 reading sector 383283     No DEFAULT or UI  configuration directive found            boot: blinking prompt
[18:51] <InHisName> I shut off power and still got it.  Is that error with DVD disk ?
[18:53] <ChinnoDog> sounds like it
[19:03] <InHisName> Yes, I just tried a 12.04 cononical disk and it works.
[19:03] <InHisName> Maybe the burned disk if a bit off
[19:06] <MutantTurkey> Hey i am trying to scp something and it's crawling at 500kb/s
[19:06] <MutantTurkey> any ideas?
[19:06] <MutantTurkey> many small files
[19:36] <ChinnoDog> That sounds like your problem right there
[20:02] <InHisName> downloading xubuntu, cause compiz is such a pig - 100%cpu if I let it.
[20:58] <ChinnoDog> Ubuntu server upgrade from 12.04 -> 12.10. Painless?
[20:59] <TheLordOfTime> depends.
[20:59] <ChinnoDog> That wasn't the right answer
[20:59] <TheLordOfTime> ChinnoDog, if you use non-Apache and php5-fpm, this is relevant: http://lordoftime.info/?p=39
[20:59] <TheLordOfTime> otherwise i've seen pretty painless upgrades for basic servers
[20:59] <TheLordOfTime> but why would you want to upgrade a server?
[20:59] <TheLordOfTime> LTS means stability :P
[21:00] <ChinnoDog> That is highly relevant. I run my blog on nginx/php5-fpm
[21:00] <TheLordOfTime> ChinnoDog, its an easy fix though
[21:00] <TheLordOfTime> ChinnoDog, read that blog post.
[21:01] <ChinnoDog> I am already using a unix socket though
[21:01] <TheLordOfTime> good, you should be fine as long as it doesn't overwrite the php5-fpm confs.
[21:01]  * TheLordOfTime spearheaded that push to get it to listen on a socket by default in 5.4.x
[21:02] <ChinnoDog> Oh yea? I found a post by someone that runs a huge site on nginx/php5-fpm and they say that they had to abandon the socket method because there is a limit to how many concurrent connnections it can handle before flaking out
[21:03] <pleia2> if you're running "a huge site" it's going to be pretty typical to change from the defaults
[21:03] <TheLordOfTime> mhm
[21:03] <ChinnoDog> true
[21:03] <TheLordOfTime> but that's for HUGE SITES.
[21:03] <ChinnoDog> My site is puny. No one looks at it.
[21:03] <TheLordOfTime> my site's not big either :P
[21:03] <TheLordOfTime> its only really aggregated on planet.u.c for only a few things.
[21:03]  * TheLordOfTime has a planet-aggregated tag :P
[21:04] <ChinnoDog> I still need to be added back to planet
[21:05] <TheLordOfTime> planet.u.c, or the PA loco planet? :P
[21:06] <ChinnoDog> I don't think I've ever been on p.u.c.
[21:06]  * ChinnoDog pretends he is in PA
[21:06] <TheLordOfTime> you'd need to be an ubuntu member to get there, or a canonical team or something :P
[21:07] <TheLordOfTime> being an Ubuntu member, my blog posts for the tag that identifies "Aggregated on PLanet Ubuntu" get pushed.
[21:08] <pleia2> even canonical teams need an Ubuntu Member to sponsor them on the planet
[21:08] <TheLordOfTime> s/pushed/aggregated/
[21:08] <TheLordOfTime> mhm
[21:08] <TheLordOfTime> speaking of ubuntu members...
[21:08] <TheLordOfTime> pleia2, if i change my LP username, does the @ubuntu.com email address update?
[21:08] <TheLordOfTime> if so, what's the turnaround for that
[21:09] <TheLordOfTime> (or should i be stabbing the canonical sysadmins about that one)
[21:09] <pleia2> it should once the cron job runs (does this a couple times a week)
[21:09] <pleia2> if it doesn't happen after a week, submit an rt@ubuntu.com ticket
[21:09] <pleia2> (sometimes it get stuck)
[21:09] <TheLordOfTime> i ask because my current @ubuntu.com address is on a few package changelogs.
[21:09] <pleia2> that's unfortunate
[21:09] <TheLordOfTime> mhm
[21:10] <pleia2> but yeah, once you change your lp name your old address will stop working and it'll generate one for the new
[21:10] <TheLordOfTime> right.
[21:10] <pleia2> they don't really do forwarding of old addresses or anything (that wouldn't be very fair)
[21:10] <TheLordOfTime> indeed.
[21:10] <TheLordOfTime> well, that's not too big an issue anyways.
[21:10] <TheLordOfTime> most of the changelog entries for that are in PPAs
[21:11] <TheLordOfTime> only two are in actively-latest Precise packages.
[21:11] <TheLordOfTime> and my work's on the bugs anyways :P
[21:11] <TheLordOfTime> (not that anyone gives a damn about nginx's changelogs :P)
[21:11] <TheLordOfTime> i think the php5 work i did got overwritten by the security team anyways so... :P
[21:12] <TheLordOfTime> and nginx, well... i apparently was designated the person for the ubuntu-side bugs for it by their support people here on IRC *shrugs*
[21:20] <pleia2> oh, you're the one I should talk to about this, see the end of this post: http://nigelb.me/sysadmin/ubuntu/2012/08/08/have-you-misconfigured-nginx.html
[21:20] <pleia2> is that still true? if so, fix plz, thx
[21:22] <pleia2> (it's really no wonder that people misconfigure it when the default config files are wrong too)