[02:15] <zodiak> anyone got any recommendations on a nice/small/quick image viewer ?
[02:15] <zodiak> all these ones that pull in half of kde can jst .. *ahem*
[02:16] <zodiak> preferrably one that works like the old zgv used to (if anyone can remember that ;)
[02:21] <v1adimir> yea the viewer is meh
[02:23] <zodiak> ta
[02:35] <xubuntu798> where can i find a user manual for "blueman"?
[03:29] <c2tarun> Hi friends, anyone using launchy here?
[03:35] <c2tarun> never mind, I found the alternative synapse and its working just fine
[04:28] <unheeding> so i have the flgrx driver installed, and now the boot splash screen doesn't show up - it's just a blank screen until the login screen pops up.   is there a way to fix this?
[04:28] <holstein> unheeding: is it broken?
[04:28] <unheeding> no, it just doesnt show the splash screen
[04:29] <holstein> sure.. is that a problem?
[04:29] <unheeding> not really, i am just a perfectionist
[04:29] <holstein> unheeding: i would ask amd to give you a "perfect" driver.. otherwise, you might just want to tolerate it
[04:30] <XRS1> it is for me.   embedded systems running on flash memory dont show the splash screen and take longer to load. people dont know the thing is on and working properly so they power it down while its booting and get all mad wanting to know why it doesnt work
[04:32] <XRS1> non issue after they see it successfully boot and understand it works fine, it just takes a second to turn on
[04:34] <holstein> i have one of the nvidia/intel ones.. nvidia ion i suppose its called.. i have a different splash depending on which chip im booting
[05:37] <phunyguy_t430s_>  question, I am trying out connecting to file shares on my linux server via gigolo, and SSH.  In the option for "Folder" I am trying to put the remote folder I want it to connect to but it still maps to my home folder on the server no matter what I put
[09:36] <xubuntu658> hi?
[09:36] <xubuntu658> need some help getting started wiht my new Xubuntu
[09:38] <xubuntu658> programs installation step failed during instllation and no GUI was installed. Anybody can tell me how to retry it manually from console?
[09:42] <v1adimir> xubuntu658: hi not sure who's here
[09:43] <xubuntu658> hi vladimir! can you help?
[09:43] <xubuntu658> thnks!
[09:44] <v1adimir> xubuntu658: not really, sorz; just got up and don't know it by heart anyway
[09:45] <xubuntu658> :-(
[09:46] <xubuntu658> hi schlaftier! can you help me, please?
[09:46] <schlaftier> I doubt it :-)
[09:47] <v1adimir> xD
[09:47] <xubuntu658> lol only starters around here i'm afraid?
[10:01] <knome> m00se, mind stopping that?
[10:02] <m00se> stop what
[10:02] <knome> m00se, changing the nick
[10:03] <m00se> get over it - like I do it all the time
[10:03] <m00se> is it breaking your internet or something?
[10:03] <TheSheep> xubuntu658: just do 'sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop'
[10:04] <TheSheep> m00se: it's spamming the channel
[10:04] <m00se> it isn't spamming anything
[10:04] <TheSheep> !hi | m00se
[10:04] <m00se> it's tweaking your OCD...so please, contain yourself
[10:04] <knome> m00se, unless you're able to follow the channel !guidelines and !coc, please leave
[10:05] <m00se> I have idled in here for over a year and it's the first (and probably only) time you have witnessed it, and I don't feel like I need to write you an apology for 1 minute of your unsolicited attention
[10:05] <m00se> right...no
[10:06] <m00se> kick me if necessary, but I'm not going anywhere
[10:06] <m00se> this is idiotic
[10:07] <m00se> feel better now?
[10:07] <knome> m00se, please note that if you break the guidelines again, we will most surely ban you
[10:08] <knome> m00se, try to be a little bit more civil and we don't have to do that.
[10:10] <m00se> yes mass will
[10:10] <m00se> much sorry massa
[10:10] <m00se> will try harder massa
[10:11] <m00se> massa need anything else?
[10:12] <xubuntu233> Hi
[10:12] <knome> hello
[10:13] <xubuntu233> I've previously install Xubuntu as a dual boot partition form inside windows hassle free but the ios I've burned doesn't autoplay in the same fashion, can you please help?
[10:13] <xubuntu233> I've downloaded 12.10
[10:14] <xubuntu233> essentially I simply want to install xubuntu
[10:16] <xubuntu233> #Hi
[10:16] <TheSheep> xubuntu658: ios? what do you mean?
[10:16] <xubuntu233> no, iso.
[10:16] <xubuntu233> sorry, typo
[10:18] <xubuntu233> hello?
[10:19] <TheSheep> xubuntu658: well, I have no idea, maybe someone else, or you can try searching the forums
[10:35] <xubuntu658> Thanks TheSheep! Problem: I booted from usb drive and now it is asking me to insert the cdrom... my netbook doesn't even have one...
[10:37] <xubuntu658> a reader I mean
[10:39] <xubuntu658>  the flashdrive is already inserted...
[10:40] <xubuntu658> brb
[10:42] <TheSheep> xubuntu658: try a different socket, on some laptops it will only work on one of their usb sockets
[11:40] <Conti_> Hey. Quick noob-question: can the xfce power manager display the remaining battery time in the system tray (instead of just on mouseover)? And if not, are there alternatives that can?
[11:41] <zuriaake> he
[11:41] <zuriaake> anybody chinese?
[11:41] <knome> !ch | zuriaake
[11:41] <knome> hmm, that's not correct..
[11:41] <knome> !chinese | zuriaake
[11:41] <zuriaake> 呵呵
[11:55] <Lachezar> Hello all... How can I add a Generic Postscript Printer to be used to print to file only, no real connection.
[12:36] <donnie> all my packages are broken on a fresh install of 12.10 and they can not be repaired by any forum I've been browsing for hours
[12:48] <Catbuntu> ohai
[14:15] <kobrakao> todo mundo usa?
[14:16] <Pici> !br
[14:16] <kobrakao> tanks
[14:16] <kobrakao> =]
[14:34] <xubuntu934> d
[14:59] <phunyguy_work> can someone help me wrap my head around what I am doing wrong with Gigolo and SSH?  In Gigolo, I put in the name of the Bookmark, the IP of the server running OpenSSH, the username I connect as, and the folder I want it to mount on the remote server.  I click OK, and when it goes to connect, I enter my password.
[14:59] <phunyguy_work> Problem is
[14:59] <phunyguy_work> errr
[14:59] <phunyguy_work> problem is, it ignores what you put in for the remote folder to mount locally, and just maps to my home folder on the server.
[14:59] <v1adimir> does it work with filezilla?
[15:00] <v1adimir> or some other program
[15:00] <phunyguy_work> I have no idea.  Was trying to stay Ubuntu-supported.
[15:00] <v1adimir> midnight commander, whatever
[15:00] <v1adimir> i mean just 2 check whether it's an SSH and/or server problem, or some local config
[15:01] <v1adimir> oic.. could be settings
[15:02] <GridCube> phunyguy_work, do you have gvfs-backends installed?
[15:02] <phunyguy_work> no it connects fine, just to /home/phunyguy
[15:02] <phunyguy_work> I am not on Xubuntu, but #ubuntu was cluttered and Gigolo comes standard on Xubuntu
[15:02] <phunyguy_work> so I should have that, yes
[15:02] <phunyguy_work> I am on standard Ubuntu.
[15:03] <GridCube> phunyguy_work, check anyway
[15:03] <phunyguy_work> did, and do.
[15:03] <GridCube> ok
[15:04] <phunyguy_work> I can make it work with smb instead, but gvfsd-smb gives me trouble
[15:05] <GridCube> mmhm
[15:05] <phunyguy_work> when accessing anything from the mounted folder for non-gvfs aware apps, the process deadlocks after some time
[15:05] <GridCube> i dont really know much about networking, you might want to check this? http://howto.blbosti.com/2010/09/mount-a-remote-ssh-folder-in-ubuntu-cmd-and-gui/
[15:05] <phunyguy_work> so I am trying SSH instead
[15:05] <phunyguy_work> KI've looked at that link already
[15:05] <phunyguy_work> I googled it.
[15:05] <GridCube> mmhm yes
[15:06] <phunyguy_work> last night and this morning.  Nothing mentions that folder option in Gigolo
[15:06] <phunyguy_work> and I like how Gigolo will dynamically mount when a share becomes reachable.
[15:06] <phunyguy_work> I just want to find a working solution with the dynamics in mind
[15:07] <phunyguy_work> (laptop that I use at home, and keep connected to home via VPN when I am at work or on the road)
[15:21] <phunyguy_work> the plot thickens.  I can click the mounted folder that comes up in Nautilus, and then hit the back arrow and get to /
[15:21] <phunyguy_work> ...not ideal.
[15:33] <wonderworld> it's ugly in general, that you need gigolo to do thinks thunar should be able to do on it's own
[15:35] <wonderworld> bookmarking sftp connections has been broken forever
[15:36] <phunyguy_work> I'm not using Thunar
[15:36] <phunyguy_work> and I said I need it to be dynamic
[15:36] <phunyguy_work> not have to moint it the first time I need to use it.
[15:36] <phunyguy_work> especially for apps that aren't gvfs aware.
[15:37] <wonderworld> you can do it with /etc/fstab then
[15:37] <wonderworld> or use sshfs if it's ssh/sftp
[15:37] <phunyguy_work> wonderworld, thats not dynamic.
[15:38] <phunyguy_work> if I put the laptop to sleep, take it to work, then connect it back up via VPN, it needs to "just work"
[15:38] <phunyguy_work> ...or things break.
[15:38] <wonderworld> sure, you can write a script that checks for the host being up periodically and mount it
[15:38] <phunyguy_work> well the thought was, why not use something that is already available.  Guess I have to code.
[15:39] <phunyguy_work> and I have a similar script for my ssh socks proxy.  Problem is, its not dependable.  the ssh process doesnt realize it went down.
[15:39] <phunyguy_work> so it never dies leading to the next iteration to reconnect.
[15:40] <phunyguy_work> I am also not very good at scripting.
[15:40] <wonderworld> you could run it as cronjob every minute, check if the connection is still there, if not kill ssh and reconnect
[15:40] <wonderworld> not too hard... 6liner
[15:40] <phunyguy_work> sounds like a lot of work that I don't know how to do.
[15:41] <phunyguy_work> maybe you can guide me
[15:41] <phunyguy_work> give me a baseline and then I can work from there
[15:41] <wonderworld> k, tell me what exactly you need to do
[15:41] <phunyguy_work> and sshfs is nice.
[15:41] <phunyguy_work> I need it to mount the filesystem to my laptop when it is available, and leave it alone if not.
[15:41] <phunyguy_work> (or umount()
[15:42] <phunyguy_work> or unmount)**
[15:42] <phunyguy_work> this is functional for now
[15:42] <phunyguy_work>  ijust like dhaving the bookmarks there
[15:42] <Siilence> Just periodically check your mount points. If it doesnt exist, mount it.
[15:42] <Siilence> If it fails, email you.
[15:42] <phunyguy_work> ffs I cant type.
[15:43] <phunyguy_work> plus my wife needs it to be easy.... lol
[15:43] <phunyguy_work> get tired of hearing "how do I get to the pictures again?"
[15:43] <wonderworld> buy her an iphone :)
[15:43] <phunyguy_work> I suppose I could symlink the crap out of it.
[15:43] <phunyguy_work> with sshfs
[15:44] <phunyguy_work> just will have broken symlinks if the connection isn't active.
[15:44] <wonderworld> do you use ssh interactive logins or do you use key-based logins?
[15:46] <phunyguy_work> interactive, but I can use sshpass
[15:46] <phunyguy_work> I would imagine anyway
[15:47] <phunyguy_work> I had to use it for my socks proxy script.
[15:47] <phunyguy_work> but that is much dirtier than what you would write I am sure
[15:47] <phunyguy_work> pretty much a while sleep 1; do sshpass blah blah ssh xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx -D 1080; done.
[15:48] <wonderworld> how about somthing like -> test -e /media/myshare/somefile || my_mountscript
[15:48] <phunyguy_work> translate
[15:48] <wonderworld> would check if somefile is available, if not run mountscript
[15:48] <phunyguy_work> lol
[15:49] <phunyguy_work> what about killing the disconnected ssh session?
[15:49] <phunyguy_work> if it works like my socks script it wont
[15:49] <phunyguy_work> will just sit there playing dumb.
[15:49] <wonderworld> you can do that in my_mountscript. "killall sshfs"
[15:49] <wonderworld> or if you have the PID of your sshfs session stored, you can kill -kill $PID
[15:50] <phunyguy_work> maybe a looped script would be better with the PID of sshfs logged
[15:50] <phunyguy_work> check connection, then kill if the server doesnt respond to a ping
[15:50] <phunyguy_work> then check for availability every 60 seconds
[15:50] <wonderworld> or check any file on your share
[15:50] <phunyguy_work> but this doesnt fix the bookmark issue.
[15:51] <phunyguy_work> however it does show up as a local drive in nautilus
[15:51] <wonderworld> you can make your scruipt dynamic and pass it variables for your different shares. then create nice desktop icons for every connection
[15:51] <phunyguy_work> well I will tell you I am not on Xubuntu
[15:51] <phunyguy_work> I am on reg Ubuntu
[15:52] <phunyguy_work> I asked here because gigolo is in Xubuntu standard.
[15:52] <wonderworld> but you won't need to do that anyway, because your script will make shure that all your shares are available all the time
[15:52] <phunyguy_work> so the same may not apply
[15:52] <wonderworld> no difference with ubuntu
[15:52] <phunyguy_work> its why i liked the idea of Gigolo, smb access worked well, just deadlocked with non-gvfs aware apps
[15:53] <wonderworld> if you don't want them to be available all the time, you need to create some bokmark concept
[15:53] <wonderworld> gvfs is a pain
[15:53] <phunyguy_work> no they need to be there.\
[15:53] <wonderworld> not really stable
[15:53] <phunyguy_work> I agree.
[15:53] <phunyguy_work> but the concept is fantastic
[15:56] <phunyguy_work> I will do this.
[15:56] <wonderworld> nice, enjoy :)
[15:57] <phunyguy_work> use Gigolo, let it connect however it wants, and just create symlinks, like ~/Music/Main Collection for my music folder on the share, ~/Pictures/Main Collection for pictures
[15:57] <phunyguy_work> ~/Downloads/torrents for the torrents share
[15:57] <phunyguy_work> etc.
[15:57] <phunyguy_work> sounds reasonable.
[15:58] <phunyguy_work> and a single folder with the root of the /media folder on the server.
[16:04] <phunyguy_work> so far so good.  putting it in a script to replicate to the rest of my machines
[16:33] <phunyguy_work> hmm yeah wonderworld, this will have to be a custom script.  ssh gets just as confused as my proxy script
[16:33] <phunyguy_work> so I will have to write one that launches sshfs, and grabs the PID.
[16:33] <phunyguy_work> then checks once a minute for connectivity and kills it if there isnt
[16:33] <phunyguy_work> starts it if there is.
[16:44] <wonderworld> yes, sounds good.
[16:48] <wonderworld> maybe it would be even easier to setup the sshfs connections in /etc/fstab
[16:49] <wonderworld> but i have no idea if this is stable....
[16:49] <phunyguy_work> wonderworld, ssh will do the same thing
[16:49] <phunyguy_work> it will never disconnect
[16:49] <phunyguy_work> and get ALL confused, same with Samba
[16:50] <phunyguy_work> at least Gigolo tries to manage it if it doesnt exist
[17:05] <superboot> Hi all. I'm trying to copy custom menu entries that I setup on one machine (with icons etc..) to the rest of my machines. What files do I need to copy/modify?
[17:06] <superboot> The main system menu that is. (the one with the mouse head on it)
[17:09]  * Catbuntu is back
[17:20] <phunyguy_work> ...aaaaaand GVFS died
[19:30] <xubuntu014> hi! anybody around I can ask for help?
[19:31] <knome> !ask | xubuntu014
[19:33] <xubuntu014> sorry. Installed xubuntu 12.04.1 today, installation process failed at the step "install programs", now I don't have a GUI
[19:33] <knome> xubuntu014, can you get to a command line?
[19:34] <xubuntu014> yes, tried apt-get install xubuntu-gui or something like that someone told me here
[19:34] <xubuntu014> now it asks me to insert a cd
[19:34] <xubuntu014> but i booted from a usb drive
[19:34] <knome> is the usb stick in?
[19:34] <xubuntu014> and don't have any cdrom unit
[19:35] <xubuntu014> yes
[19:35] <knome> are you connected to the internet?
[19:35] <xubuntu014> yes
[19:35] <knome> ok, just a minute
[19:36] <knome> also, do you have another computer to irc from next to you?
[19:36] <xubuntu014> yes lol
[19:36] <xubuntu014> no other way
[19:36] <knome> ok, good. type the following command:
[19:36] <knome> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:37] <knome> it will ask for your password, insert that too
[19:37] <xubuntu014> ok
[19:38] <xubuntu014> lots of txtlines runnning...
[19:38] <knome> now you should see the software sources list
[19:38] <xubuntu014> yes
[19:38] <knome> there should be lines starting with about "deb cdrom:[Xubuntu..." in the beginning
[19:38] <xubuntu014> some files were not found
[19:38] <xubuntu014> yes
[19:38] <xubuntu014> no wait
[19:39] <knome> files not found? did you type the command i posted?
[19:39] <xubuntu014> "impossible to get cdrom: [Xubuntu...
[19:39] <xubuntu014> yes
[19:39] <xubuntu014> sorry i'm translating from spanish
[19:39] <knome> you sure? 'sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list' without the quotes
[19:40] <knome> that should only open a text editor
[19:40] <xubuntu014> sudo: nano: command not found
[19:41] <knome> oh, ok.
[19:43] <xubuntu014> ?
[19:44] <knome> xubuntu014, just a moment
[19:45] <xubuntu014> (thanks a lot for doing this for free, by the way! hope to be able to help someday)
[19:46] <knome> xubuntu014, what happens if you type 'sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list' ?
[19:47] <xubuntu014> same thing
[19:47] <knome> command not found? ok...
[19:47] <xubuntu014> yep
[19:48] <raytray> xubuntu014, when you ddi apt-get install xubuntu-gui what happened?
[19:48] <xubuntu014> no wait i tipped it wrong
[19:48] <xubuntu014> sorry
[19:48] <xubuntu014> now I see two text lines and a lot of ~in the middle
[19:49] <knome> two text lines only?
[19:49] <xubuntu014> deb cdrom:[Xubuntu....
[19:49] <xubuntu014> up
[19:49] <knome> is there something like "deb http://..." later?
[19:50] <xubuntu014> and "etc/apt/get/souces.list" 2lines, 125 char
[19:50] <xubuntu014> nop
[19:50] <knome> xubuntu014, oh, ok. then type ":q" (without the quotes, literally) and press enter
[19:50] <TheSheep> wait /etc/apt/get/ ???
[19:50] <xubuntu014> maybe an internet problem?
[19:51] <knome> xubuntu014, it looks like the installer didn't get very far
[19:51] <knome> xubuntu014, i'd suggest trying to install again, since there's not much you can lose
[19:51] <xubuntu014> i did it two times already, always crasches at the same step
[19:52] <xubuntu014> and the iso should be fine  - i checked the md5 thing
[19:53] <xubuntu014> should i try to burn it again anyway? maybe with another burner? the one i did it was which i found in the ubuntu help pages
[19:54] <knome> if you've checked the usb stick is fine, let's try to continue then
[19:56] <xubuntu014> i've just booted from the stick again and clicked at "check disk" : integrity test failed:
[19:56] <knome> xubuntu014, ok, in that case you should try creating the usb stick again
[19:56] <knome> it's the easiest way
[19:56] <xubuntu014> ok thanks!
[19:56] <knome> np
[19:57] <xubuntu014> wait! which program you suggest?
[19:57] <xubuntu014> the burner may have been the problem...
[19:57] <knome> i don't know those apps, use something that's suggested on the ubuntu wiki
[19:57] <xubuntu014> ok thanks a lot again!
[19:58] <holstein> xubuntu014: test the integrity of the disk... should be in the alternate menu if you hold shift while the live CD is booting
[19:58] <holstein> that will confirm the image, and the media
[19:59] <xubuntu014> thanks, holstein, just did it - "integrity test failed" i'm burning it again. Bye guys!
[19:59] <xubuntu014> thanks a lot
[20:06] <phunyguy_work> wonderworld, baseline script is complete. Wanna see?
[20:09] <wonderworld> sure
[20:10] <phunyguy_work> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1413192/
[20:11] <phunyguy_work> works great
[20:11] <phunyguy_work> bounced my openvpn conncetion a few times
[20:11] <wonderworld> nice.... and you said you couldn't script :)
[20:12] <phunyguy_work> well to be fair, my brain is hurting
[20:12] <wonderworld> it gets easier over time and it's very useful
[20:12] <phunyguy_work> I used perl for a long time, but I am trying to get away from that
[20:12] <phunyguy_work> I also set up the ssh tunnel with certificates
[20:13] <phunyguy_work> so no password required
[20:13] <wonderworld> for me it's the real great thing about linux... if something doesn't work the way you want it, you can script it for yourself 99% of the time
[20:13] <wonderworld> (and it will work forever)
[20:13] <phunyguy_work> yah
[20:13] <phunyguy_work> thanks for your help
[20:13] <wonderworld> np
[20:13]  * phunyguy_work beers wonderworld 
[20:14] <wonderworld> * thankfully *burps*
[20:14] <phunyguy_work> hah!
[20:14] <phunyguy_work> I can use this same script to make my proxy work better as well
[20:19] <wonderworld> just ordered my personal xmas present Lenovo EDGE S430. great
[20:50] <phunyguy_work> wonderworld, nice.  We are a Lenovo shop here.
[20:52] <wonderworld> hey great...good choice? i was researching and thought it was pretty much the best i could get for the money with full ubuntu compatibility
[20:53] <phunyguy_work> I use a T430s, and T420s
[20:53] <phunyguy_work> very nice laptops
[20:53] <phunyguy_work> the X1 Carbon sucks though
[20:57] <phunyguy_work> the touchpad on it is like a mac.. but worse.
[20:57] <phunyguy_work> its just one big button but you have to press the corner still to left or right click.  very tough to use.
[21:24] <wonderworld> hope thinkpads are as good as people say. just wanted something robust and hassle free for linux use with keyboard lightning
[21:24] <phunyguy_work> they are good.
[21:24] <phunyguy_work> the Desktops are nice as well
[21:25] <phunyguy_work> This machine is a quad core Xeon
[21:25] <phunyguy_work> ThinkStation E30
[21:25] <phunyguy_work> sorry E31
[21:25] <phunyguy_work> 16 gigs RAM
[22:06] <wonderworld> whats the most frequent RMA you receive?
[22:12] <holstein> rma for a thinkpad? i might talk about that and mention looking at a system76 or some other linux preloaded PC's in the offtopic channel
[23:19] <phunyguy_t430s_> wonderworld, do you happedn to have the pastebin link still?
[23:21] <phunyguy_t430s_> or anyone for that matter.  If they still have it in their chat scrollback, please send along to me.  Thanks
[23:24] <knome> phunyguy_t430s_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1413192/ ?
[23:25] <phunyguy_t430s_> gracias.