| yofel | full disk encryption passed on amd64. I had some issues with shutdown, but nothing critical for alpha1 | 00:30 |
|---|---|---|
| * yofel is off to bed | 00:31 | |
| ScottK | yofel: Thanks. | 00:32 |
| Tygart | ScottK: I wish I knew more about how to test I am running 13.04 64 bit "AMD Turion 64 X2". The only issue I have is Plasma desktop keeps crashing. | 00:32 |
| Tygart | more info here http://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?61269-Kubuntu-%2813-04%29-%E2%80%9CPlasma-Desktop%E2%80%9D-keeps-crashing | 00:33 |
| ScottK | That backtrace is worth filing as a bug in bugs.kde.org. | 00:50 |
| Tygart | ScottK: Thanks Scott I sent it in. | 01:17 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan_: pong | 08:16 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: I already talked to upstream, they told me they could do a dirty port of qtgstreamer | 08:16 |
| shadeslayer | gkiagia on #kde-telepathy has more info | 08:17 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: Could you work out getting something going? Stuff is blocked from migrating from proposed due to our packages not being ported. | 08:31 |
| Noskcaj | anyone know whats causing bug 1066223 | 08:38 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1066223 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "kde ubiquity detects Sydney timezone but says Adelaide" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1066223 | 08:38 |
| Noskcaj | the amd64 kubuntu alpha image freezes when you hit next with install mp3 selected | 08:45 |
| Noskcaj | can someone confirm? | 08:45 |
| shadeslayer | erk | 08:54 |
| Noskcaj | shadeslayer, why you go "erk" ? | 08:55 |
| shadeslayer | Noskcaj: by hang do you mean it shows the spinning icon | 08:55 |
| shadeslayer | and erk because it's blocking stuff | 08:56 |
| shadeslayer | it = gst | 08:56 |
| Noskcaj | shadeslayer, yes, and understandable | 08:56 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: I'll email George this evening | 08:56 |
| shadeslayer | Noskcaj: sec | 08:58 |
| shadeslayer | Noskcaj: something like bug 1085991 | 08:58 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1085991 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Ubiquity stuck at "Preparing to install Kubuntu"" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1085991 | 08:58 |
| Noskcaj | shadeslayer, sounds similar but it only happens when mp3 is selected | 08:59 |
| shadeslayer | oh | 08:59 |
| shadeslayer | iirc I had mp3 stuff ticked as well | 08:59 |
| shadeslayer | Noskcaj: could you run apport-collect 1085991 when trying to install and it hangs? ( run it after it hangs ) | 09:00 |
| Noskcaj | what do you mean? | 09:00 |
| shadeslayer | xnox: ^ possibly similar bug | 09:00 |
| shadeslayer | Noskcaj: it'll attach logs to the bug report | 09:01 |
| shadeslayer | so that we can figure out what's wrong | 09:01 |
| Noskcaj | ok, i will after this testcase(kubuntu amd64 manual) | 09:01 |
| shadeslayer | cool | 09:01 |
| Noskcaj | i may have to wait till tomorrow as i have to be finished by 8:30pm AEDST (+11utc) | 09:04 |
| Noskcaj | shadeslayer, so do i let it get to the "freeze" or run apport-collect before then | 09:05 |
| Noskcaj | and does this have to be from the live desktop? | 09:05 |
| Noskcaj | shadeslayer, are you sure that is the same bug? | 09:11 |
| shadeslayer | Noskcaj: almost, seems to exhibit the same symptoms | 09:11 |
| Noskcaj | ok, i am at the freeze, what do i do? | 09:12 |
| shadeslayer | press alt+F1 | 09:12 |
| shadeslayer | erm | 09:12 |
| shadeslayer | alt+F2 | 09:12 |
| shadeslayer | type konsole | 09:12 |
| shadeslayer | then run apport-collect 1085991 | 09:12 |
| Noskcaj | nothing happens. do i need to be in a live desktop? | 09:13 |
| shadeslayer | didn't konsole open? | 09:13 |
| Noskcaj | alt+f2 didn't | 09:13 |
| shadeslayer | oh | 09:13 |
| shadeslayer | that's weird | 09:13 |
| shadeslayer | Noskcaj: are you connected to the network? | 09:13 |
| shadeslayer | s/the/a | 09:13 |
| Noskcaj | yeah, i'm in Vbox though | 09:13 |
| shadeslayer | ah no issue | 09:13 |
| shadeslayer | can you switch to a tty? ( Ctrl + Alt + F1 ) | 09:14 |
| shadeslayer | then run apport-collect 1085991 | 09:14 |
| Noskcaj | one sec, i was about to change to the live desktop | 09:14 |
| shadeslayer | okay | 09:15 |
| Noskcaj | shadeslayer, acidently made that happen on my own pc and had to restart | 09:19 |
| shadeslayer | haha :D | 09:19 |
| shadeslayer | Noskcaj: pro tip, kill an application using ctrl+alt+esc and click on offending app | 09:20 |
| shadeslayer | only kills app, no need to restart | 09:20 |
| Noskcaj | if pnly i knew sooner | 09:21 |
| shadeslayer | okay, does anyone know where the 12.10 comes from in ubiquity? | 09:21 |
| xnox | shadeslayer: .disk_info file?! | 09:22 |
| shadeslayer | hmmm | 09:22 |
| shadeslayer | that's odd then | 09:22 |
| Noskcaj | i will ask that question in -quality incase someone knows more | 09:22 |
| xnox | shadeslayer: well it's .disk/info | 09:23 |
| shadeslayer | xnox: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/+bug/1086034 | 09:23 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1086034 in ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu (Ubuntu) "Ubiquity slideshows still refer to 12.10" [Medium,New] | 09:23 |
| shadeslayer | oh that's the *slideshow* | 09:24 |
| shadeslayer | nvm | 09:24 |
| xnox | shadeslayer: slideshows are static & need reuploading. | 09:28 |
| shadeslayer | right | 09:28 |
| Noskcaj | shadeslayer, it happend again, i had to restart | 09:29 |
| shadeslayer | oh hmm | 09:29 |
| Noskcaj | i am using xubuntu if that changes anything | 09:29 |
| shadeslayer | don't think so | 09:29 |
| Noskcaj | i have to go, will be back on at 6:00am AEDST | 09:32 |
| Quintasan_ | shadeslayer: kio-mtp can't copy directories now | 11:18 |
| Quintasan_ | it can't handle them here T_T | 11:18 |
| === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan | ||
| shadeslayer | heh | 11:18 |
| shadeslayer | I'm just the packager, and for some reason it doesn't want to work with png | 11:19 |
| shadeslayer | *png files | 11:19 |
| shadeslayer | file a bug ? :P | 11:19 |
| Quintasan | I nominate you as the link between upstream and us | 11:19 |
| Quintasan | you do it :P | 11:19 |
| shadeslayer | durrr | 11:19 |
| Quintasan | Well, I have to go to buy a present for my friend, if you don't file it now then I will do it later anyways | 11:20 |
| Riddell | proofreaders: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/RaringRingtail/Alpha2/Kubuntu | 11:20 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: I'll file it later | 11:21 |
| shadeslayer | also uploaded a quantal package in experimental | 11:21 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: No glaring mistakes there | 11:21 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: Will read it in detail is bus | 11:21 |
| * smartboyhw goes in to the ISO tracker to report a success testcase for Kubuntu Alpha 1 | 11:23 | |
| Riddell | Quintasan: feel free to think of things to add/improve too | 11:25 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: great thanks | 11:25 |
| soee | shadeslayer, 4.10 beta2 for quantal? | 11:36 |
| * shadeslayer looks at Riddell | 11:36 | |
| Riddell | needs done for raring first | 11:36 |
| Riddell | then yes, I'd like to backport it | 11:36 |
| Riddell | but I'm on alpha 1 this morning | 11:37 |
| shadeslayer | what needs doing for Beta 2? | 11:39 |
| yofel_ | there are a few missing packages at least | 11:40 |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| * shadeslayer looks | 11:40 | |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: yofel pointed out gwenview, cantor, dragon and perlkde as missing so I think they'll have patched that need refreshed/removed | 11:41 |
| shadeslayer | aha | 11:42 |
| Riddell | and of course all the yellow and red here http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/kubuntu-ppa-build-status.html | 11:42 |
| shadeslayer | yeah was looking at that | 11:42 |
| yofel | Riddell: wrong # - I'll take care of the crash fix | 11:46 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, you want me to run the "Non-English Live session & Installation; Full Network Support" thing? | 11:47 |
| smartboyhw | That testcase | 11:47 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: that would be cool | 11:47 |
| smartboyhw | Ha the string not translated in the slideshow for Chinese (Traditional) is actually the sentence "Thank you for choosing Kubuntu 12.10" LOL. | 12:07 |
| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 12:09 |
| Riddell | our images are oversized | 12:10 |
| Riddell | based on a round SI GB limit of 1000000000 bytes | 12:10 |
| Riddell | can I bump it up to a binary GiB limit of 1 073 741 824 bytes? | 12:11 |
| shadeslayer | dat unit | 12:22 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: you mean from 8.881784197e-7 peta bytes to 9.53674316406e-7 peta bytes? | 12:23 |
| Riddell | um | 12:25 |
| shadeslayer | hehehe | 12:25 |
| Riddell | your mind has a weird way of counting, what a geek | 12:25 |
| soee | guys the reason that other distros like OpenSuse have beta version of KDE available as soon as they show up is because of bigger community/developers working on it or because they don't preparing it for upcoming releases? | 12:35 |
| shadeslayer | not sure, but I've never seen them contributing armhf fixes and what not | 12:40 |
| shadeslayer | so maybe they just target x86* ? | 12:40 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, Non-English testcase for amd64 completed, so I think you can mark the amd64 ISO ready now | 12:41 |
| shadeslayer | mmm .. when did we upload beta 2 this time? | 12:41 |
| shadeslayer | soee: I'm working on getting b2 out today | 12:41 |
| shadeslayer | as long as someone tests it on raring | 12:41 |
| * smartboyhw doesn't understand why VirtualBox shows "Aborted" when he shuts down Kubuntu in the normal way | 12:42 | |
| soee | later at home i can test it with VB | 12:42 |
| shadeslayer | cool | 12:43 |
| soee | on my machine at home i have quantal so i can test quantal also | 12:43 |
| soee | x64 | 12:43 |
| shadeslayer | well | 12:43 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: I'd like to upload quantal today after being done with raring | 12:43 |
| * shadeslayer wonders if the automation script works with remote signatures and what not | 12:44 | |
| shadeslayer | lolwat | 12:47 |
| shadeslayer | gwenview built just fine here | 12:47 |
| shadeslayer | so very odd | 12:49 |
| * smartboyhw wonders will anyone do the amd64+mac images | 12:50 | |
| shadeslayer | smartboyhw: ? | 12:50 |
| shadeslayer | I tested them last night | 12:50 |
| smartboyhw | shadeslayer, well aren't it supposed to have all the testcases completed? | 12:51 |
| shadeslayer | uh, usually that doesn't happen :) | 12:51 |
| * smartboyhw thought that is standard procedure (at least for Ubuntu Desktop) | 12:51 | |
| shadeslayer | it probably is, but we don't have as many resources as them | 12:51 |
| smartboyhw | ooh | 12:52 |
| smartboyhw | alright | 12:52 |
| shadeslayer | so if someone donates a spare macbook pro to me, I could probably do the testing | 12:52 |
| shadeslayer | but don't want to do it on my work machine | 12:52 |
| smartboyhw | shadeslayer, you don't necessary need to have a MacBook PRO right?;P Get a Macbook Air, or even a Mac mini ... | 12:54 |
| shadeslayer | sure | 12:54 |
| shadeslayer | but I ain't buying more apple hardware | 12:54 |
| shadeslayer | I'm sick of this MBP as it is | 12:54 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: where are my mallit packages?!! | 12:57 |
| shadeslayer | agateau: your fix doesn't build on i386 :( | 12:59 |
| shadeslayer | oh fun | 12:59 |
| agateau | shadeslayer: really? :( do you have a build log? | 12:59 |
| shadeslayer | libjpeg-turbo8-dev:i386: /usr/include/jpeglib.h | 12:59 |
| shadeslayer | agateau: are you in the kubuntu-ninjas team? | 13:00 |
| shadeslayer | agateau: https://i125024006.restricted.launchpadlibrarian.net/125024006/buildlog_ubuntu-raring-i386.gwenview_4:4.9.90-0ubuntu1~ppa1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz?token=0b0efc87cb05a0aa521ffdf4da075708 | 13:00 |
| shadeslayer | if not : http://paste.kde.org/620870/ | 13:00 |
| agateau | shadeslayer: I guess I am not: I get a "No Such Resource" msg | 13:00 |
| agateau | shadeslayer: thanks | 13:01 |
| shadeslayer | you're using chrom{e.ium} | 13:01 |
| shadeslayer | which has a weird bug | 13:01 |
| agateau | shadeslayer: no | 13:02 |
| shadeslayer | oh .. which browser? | 13:02 |
| agateau | shadeslayer: link opened in konqueror | 13:02 |
| shadeslayer | I see ... | 13:02 |
| shadeslayer | guess konqueror has the same bug | 13:02 |
| shadeslayer | hmm ... jconfig is there : /usr/include/i386-linux-gnu/jconfig.h | 13:03 |
| agateau | shadeslayer: and what is ${CMAKE_LIBRARY_ARCHITECTURE} on i386? | 13:04 |
| shadeslayer | sec | 13:04 |
| shadeslayer | obj-i686-linux-gnu/CMakeFiles/2.8.10.1/CMakeCXXCompiler.cmake: set(CMAKE_LIBRARY_ARCHITECTURE "i386-linux-gnu") | 13:04 |
| agateau | so it should work | 13:05 |
| agateau | or I do not interpret find_file doc correctly | 13:05 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: where do you get "libjpeg-turbo8-dev:i386: /usr/include/jpeglib.h" ? | 13:07 |
| yofel | that is /usr/include/i386-linux-gnu/jconfig.h here | 13:07 |
| yofel | er, nvm | 13:07 |
| shadeslayer | root@server:~/gwenview-4.9.90# dpkg -S jpeglib.h | 13:07 |
| shadeslayer | libjpeg-turbo8-dev:i386: /usr/include/jpeglib.h | 13:07 |
| shadeslayer | :) | 13:07 |
| yofel | I need more coffee | 13:07 |
| yofel | yeah, jpeglib.h is there, jconfig.h isn#t | 13:07 |
| shadeslayer | aye | 13:08 |
| agateau | can you spot what is wrong in this then: find_file(JCONFIG_H jconfig.h PATHS "${JPEG_INCLUDE_DIR}" PATH_SUFFIXES "${CMAKE_LIBRARY_ARCHITECTURE}")? | 13:09 |
| * yofel looks up what PATH_SUFFIXES does | 13:09 | |
| yofel | hm... that should work o.O | 13:10 |
| agateau | especially since it works on amd64 (just checked) | 13:12 |
| * agateau is puzzled | 13:13 | |
| shadeslayer | eh wat | 13:14 |
| shadeslayer | # libjpeg-turbo keeps JPEG_LIB_VERSION in jconfig.h, not jpeglib.h :/ | 13:14 |
| shadeslayer | find_file(JCONFIG_H jconfig.h | 13:14 |
| shadeslayer | PATHS "${JPEG_INCLUDE_DIR}" | 13:14 |
| shadeslayer | PATH_SUFFIXES "x86_64-linux-gnu" | 13:14 |
| shadeslayer | ) | 13:14 |
| agateau | shadeslayer: ah, you don't have the very latest code | 13:14 |
| shadeslayer | but ... I thought your released it with 4.9.90? | 13:14 |
| agateau | no, committed that shortly after the tag iirc | 13:14 |
| * agateau checks | 13:14 | |
| shadeslayer | ahhh okay | 13:14 |
| shadeslayer | makes sense | 13:15 |
| agateau | seems like beta are not tagged :( | 13:15 |
| agateau | weird | 13:15 |
| shadeslayer | heh | 13:16 |
| shadeslayer | anywho, compiling with https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kdegraphics/gwenview/repository/revisions/67726648531755a4dab131a1926dd17cc8f969d2/diff | 13:16 |
| shadeslayer | lets see | 13:17 |
| agateau | There is a v4.9.80 tag, but no v4.9.90 | 13:17 |
| shadeslayer | someone forgtot to push tags then | 13:17 |
| shadeslayer | \o/ | 13:17 |
| agateau | where is tsdgeos when one needs him :) | 13:18 |
| ScottK | Riddell: I assume we're not releasing amd64+mac and it should be removed from the tracker? | 13:23 |
| shadeslayer | so I tested it for nothing? | 13:23 |
| shadeslayer | :( | 13:24 |
| smartboyhw | shadeslayer, heh I am correct for a bit now:P | 13:24 |
| shadeslayer | smartboyhw: indeed :) | 13:24 |
| shadeslayer | okay, so only perlkde left | 13:25 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: There's no install testing of the current image. | 13:25 |
| shadeslayer | I install tested the ISO before you respun it :P | 13:26 |
| ScottK | Riddell: ^^^ ? | 13:26 |
| * ScottK passess the buck. | 13:26 | |
| smartboyhw | shadeslayer, LOL | 13:26 |
| shadeslayer | ;) | 13:27 |
| shadeslayer | all missing packages uploaded | 13:35 |
| * shadeslayer looks at status page | 13:36 | |
| Riddell | ScottK: it could go either way really | 13:36 |
| Riddell | mm live only tested | 13:37 |
| Riddell | I think it needs at least one install | 13:37 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: I installed it a couple of days ago | 13:42 |
| shadeslayer | so unless something changed dramatically, it was fine | 13:42 |
| shadeslayer | your discretion really | 13:42 |
| ScottK | Riddell: shadeslayer has a fair point. There's no evidence from the other images of issues due to the respinn. | 13:49 |
| ScottK | s/respinn/respin/ | 13:49 |
| kubotu | ScottK meant: "Riddell: shadeslayer has a fair point. There's no evidence from the other images of issues due to the respin." | 13:49 |
| Riddell | "I've been basically running Kubuntu 12.04 for the last several months and am finding it without a doubt one of the best distros I've ever run" I like my google "Kubuntu" alert it makes me smile | 13:52 |
| shadeslayer | :D | 13:52 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: like I said before, we should make an announcement for business card designs on G+ | 13:53 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: go ahead | 13:53 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: can't access G+ | 13:55 |
| shadeslayer | it says it's down | 13:55 |
| Riddell | you broke google! | 13:55 |
| Riddell | do you know how much trouble you'll get in for doing that? | 13:56 |
| smartboyhw | LOL | 13:56 |
| shadeslayer | yay | 13:56 |
| smartboyhw | shadeslayer, stop saying yay | 13:56 |
| smartboyhw | That is clearly not yay | 13:57 |
| shadeslayer | okay :( | 13:57 |
| soee | :) | 13:57 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: "The Kubuntu team is looking for awesome buisness card designs! Show us your designs and it might become the official buisness card for the Kubuntu team !" | 14:02 |
| shadeslayer | sound good enough? | 14:02 |
| shadeslayer | *business | 14:02 |
| soee | shadeslayer, business card ? | 14:03 |
| shadeslayer | yus | 14:03 |
| BluesKaj | ok what's the pay :) ? | 14:03 |
| shadeslayer | lol | 14:03 |
| soee | shadeslayer, what it shoudl contain ? | 14:04 |
| shadeslayer | maybe Riddell has a spare Kubuntu polo tee left over he can giveaway for the design that wins? | 14:04 |
| Riddell | I'm all out | 14:05 |
| === valorie_ is now known as valorie | ||
| BluesKaj | heh, they don't make them large enough for guys like me, 3XLT would be minimum | 14:06 |
| Riddell | but I did give two to some people at copenhagen that i've not got back | 14:06 |
| Riddell | hint.. Quintasan | 14:06 |
| BluesKaj | however I did find one from the cranky geeks that fit | 14:07 |
| === Tonio_ is now known as Tonio_aw | ||
| === shadeslayer_ is now known as Guest80560 | ||
| === Guest80560 is now known as shadeslayer_ | ||
| === Tonio_aw is now known as Tonio_ | ||
| shadeslayer | mmm | 14:18 |
| shadeslayer | oh hah | 14:23 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: http://i.imgur.com/lIeKw.png | 14:24 |
| shadeslayer | those look neat tbh | 14:24 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: well they've release version specific | 14:25 |
| Riddell | and don't have space for contact details | 14:25 |
| shadeslayer | true | 14:25 |
| kubotu | ::qt-bugs:: [1087259] update to 4.8.4 @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1087259 (by André Stein) | 14:25 |
| shadeslayer | but hey, we're getting replies :P | 14:25 |
| Riddell | where? | 14:25 |
| shadeslayer | G+ | 14:25 |
| Riddell | nice | 14:26 |
| soee | shadeslayer, ill ask friend of mine to prepare one project also :) | 14:29 |
| shadeslayer | cool! | 14:30 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: I'm doing your work now :P | 14:31 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: could you take over marble, I've gtg | 14:31 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: ok | 14:32 |
| soee | shadeslayer, we are talking about kubuntu project only ? | 14:32 |
| shadeslayer | soee: yes | 14:36 |
| shadeslayer | though if they want, they could do it for the other community projects as well | 14:37 |
| soee | where can i find link for kubuntu logo ? | 14:37 |
| Riddell | KubuntuArtwork on wiki | 14:39 |
| soee | ok, thank you Riddell | 14:43 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: Well I'll be sending one of mine to Darkwing | 14:49 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: oh cool | 14:49 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: did you get two at copenhagen? | 14:49 |
| Riddell | I'm sure someone else got two | 14:49 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: yes, but I returned mine | 14:55 |
| shadeslayer | remember when I came at night to your room to return one of them? | 14:56 |
| Riddell | mm right | 14:56 |
| Riddell | I guess we're all out then | 14:56 |
| ScottK | Riddell: I did some edits on our announcement on the wiki. Please make check you're OK with them. | 14:58 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: "It could be Corel CDR too, or only SVG and PDF?" | 14:58 |
| ScottK | The global menu bug turned out to be a problem in quantal too and the 12.10 in the slideshow is trivium. So I removed them. | 14:59 |
| shadeslayer | I guess SVG only | 14:59 |
| * ScottK has more than one. | 14:59 | |
| * smartboyhw wonders will anybody test the amd64+mac image, the only one not ready:P | 14:59 | |
| ScottK | smartboyhw: We aren't going to release it. | 14:59 |
| smartboyhw | ScottK, yo:D | 14:59 |
| Riddell | oh marble joins the ranks of projects that don't keep ABI stability http://paste.kde.org/620954/ | 14:59 |
| shadeslayer | mmm | 15:01 |
| Riddell | ScottK: lovely | 15:01 |
| shadeslayer | ok, where was I .. | 15:04 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: gtg? | 15:04 |
| shadeslayer | ah yes | 15:04 |
| shadeslayer | nah, back from what I had to do | 15:04 |
| shadeslayer | ah yes, loooking at status page | 15:05 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Do you have the kubuntu.org announement queued up? | 15:06 |
| shadeslayer | libkdcraw has new symbols? | 15:07 |
| Riddell | ScottK: I don't but I can put up a sentence or two now | 15:07 |
| ScottK | Great. | 15:07 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: They broke API from 4.9 -> 4.10. | 15:08 |
| shadeslayer | mmm | 15:08 |
| ScottK | Which is why Kamoso and Kphotoalbum are currently broken. | 15:09 |
| Riddell | https://www-admin.kubuntu.org/news/13.04-alpha1 for those who can see it | 15:11 |
| Riddell | it just says "<a href="https://wiki.kubuntu.org/RaringRingtail/Alpha1/Kubuntu">Alpha 1 of our 13.04 development version</a> is available for download and testing. It comes with the latest testing release of KDE's Plasma desktop and applications. | 15:11 |
| Riddell | " | 15:11 |
| shadeslayer | fun | 15:12 |
| ScottK | No photos with kayaks and stickers on your head? | 15:13 |
| Riddell | ach I've not done that for years | 15:14 |
| Riddell | but I would like to do a blog post today with more photos from copenhagen | 15:14 |
| * Riddell goes for a walk back shortly | 15:16 | |
| * ScottK is ready to publish on kubuntu.org | 15:19 | |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: any ideas what we decided wrt ffmpeg stuff and nepomuk? | 15:21 |
| shadeslayer | because I can't find a lib to satisfy that depends | 15:21 |
| ScottK | I think we decided to disable it until we were sure it only needed ffmpeg stuff we are allowed to ship on an image. | 15:22 |
| shadeslayer | hmm | 15:22 |
| yofel | looking at neon, check if you can ship libavutil51, libavformat53 and libavcodec53 | 15:23 |
| shadeslayer | okay, all 3 are in main | 15:24 |
| shadeslayer | so I guess they're OK to ship on the ISO? | 15:25 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: No. | 15:25 |
| shadeslayer | oh? | 15:25 |
| ScottK | Let me check. | 15:25 |
| ScottK | You have to look in the seeds | 15:25 |
| shadeslayer | oh, if they're blacklisted or not? | 15:25 |
| * vHanda is over here if you have any questions | 15:26 | |
| ScottK | "libavcodec cannot be shipped on CDs (c.f. Ubuntu technical board resolution 2007-01-02)." | 15:26 |
| ScottK | So avutils and avformat are OK. | 15:26 |
| shadeslayer | ah herp derp | 15:27 |
| ScottK | Thanks vHanda. We're (I think) mostly wrapped up in Ubuntu policy re patents and what we're allowed to ship or not on an image. | 15:27 |
| ScottK | You can ask the user to install it later and dlopen it. That's allowed. | 15:27 |
| shadeslayer | ah | 15:28 |
| vHanda | shadeslayer: what did I what? | 15:30 |
| shadeslayer | huh? | 15:30 |
| vHanda | "Rohan: ping. what did you install for ffmpeg headers?" | 15:30 |
| shadeslayer | ah nvm | 15:30 |
| shadeslayer | found the right set of dev headers | 15:30 |
| vHanda | okay | 15:30 |
| shadeslayer | I've removed the libavcode-dev | 15:30 |
| shadeslayer | and it still says it found the ffmpeg stuff, so just need to check what it'll depend on | 15:31 |
| shadeslayer | *I've removed the libavcodec-dev build dep | 15:31 |
| shadeslayer | oh drat, something still pulls it in | 15:33 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: can we have the ffmpeg extractor libs in a separate package? | 15:34 |
| shadeslayer | and then ask the user to install that | 15:34 |
| shadeslayer | vHanda: ^ | 15:34 |
| vHanda | I ask the user? | 15:35 |
| shadeslayer | http://paste.kde.org/621014/ < these 2 in a separate file | 15:35 |
| vHanda | you mean separate package | 15:35 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: Look at what we do for Konqueror and flash. IIRC it's a distro patch. | 15:35 |
| vHanda | that works :) | 15:35 |
| shadeslayer | vHanda: will there be any adverse affect if we compile with ffmpeg stuff and split out those libs and ask the user to install them through some sort of dialog? | 15:36 |
| vHanda | nope | 15:36 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: looking | 15:36 |
| shadeslayer | okay | 15:36 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: the DLRestrictions patch? | 15:39 |
| ScottK | Sounds vaguely right. | 15:39 |
| shadeslayer | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdelibs/view/head:/debian/patches/add_dlrestrictions_support.diff | 15:39 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna would know about it, IIRC. | 15:39 |
| shadeslayer | okay | 15:39 |
| shadeslayer | I'm still contemplating if we can just ship another package and prompt the user to install that | 15:43 |
| ScottK | I'd say just disable it for now and finish 4.9.90. | 15:45 |
| shadeslayer | well it's disabled ;) | 15:45 |
| ScottK | Excellent. | 15:46 |
| ScottK | Can we start uploading 4.9.90 now? | 15:46 |
| shadeslayer | uhhh | 15:46 |
| shadeslayer | what about libkdcraw and libkdegames? | 15:46 |
| shadeslayer | and marble | 15:46 |
| shadeslayer | those 3 are the only things left afaictl | 15:47 |
| ScottK | Right, but it takes a while to get stuff built. | 15:47 |
| shadeslayer | and kmahjongg is still ftbfs | 15:48 |
| ScottK | May as well upload libs and then meta. | 15:48 |
| ScottK | I'm putting a block in place so none of it will migrate from raring-proposed before we are ready. | 15:48 |
| shadeslayer | okay | 15:48 |
| shadeslayer | sounds good | 15:48 |
| Riddell | kmahjongg is proving fiddly | 15:48 |
| * shadeslayer is having a look at that | 15:49 | |
| ScottK | Riddell: How about we start on uploading 4.9.90 then. | 15:49 |
| Riddell | ScottK: yeah can do, although I think I'll keep going through and fixing the issues in ninjas | 15:51 |
| ScottK | I was mostly thinking about getting kde4libs built on all archs. | 15:51 |
| shadeslayer | ehwat | 15:51 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: it builds fine here | 15:51 |
| shadeslayer | weird | 15:51 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: libkmahjongglib4 installs? | 15:52 |
| shadeslayer | afaictl yes | 15:53 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: http://paste.kde.org/621026 | 15:53 |
| soee | ok im at home if you want me something to test just shoot | 15:53 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: I've hit rebuild on i386, lets see | 15:55 |
| shadeslayer | maybe it was a temporary issue | 15:55 |
| Riddell | libkmahjongglib4 : Depends: kdegames-mahjongg-data (= 4:4.9.90-0ubuntu1~ubuntu13.04~ppa1) but 4:4.9.90-0ubuntu1~ubuntu13.04~ppa2 is to be installed | 15:55 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: no I guess I missed something there | 15:56 |
| shadeslayer | possibly | 15:56 |
| shadeslayer_ | Riddell: didja find the issue? | 16:02 |
| shadeslayer | you want to dep on kmahjongg-data instead of kdegames-kmahjongg-data | 16:03 |
| shadeslayer | but then what's kdegames-kmahjongg-data | 16:07 |
| shadeslayer | hmm | 16:07 |
| === ScottK changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly Computing | Raring Alpha 1 Released | Packaging TODO: http://notes.kde.org/kubuntu-ninjas http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/kubuntu-ppa-build-status.html | ||
| ScottK | Can someone seed Kubuntu torrents? | 16:10 |
| shadeslayer | sure | 16:10 |
| shadeslayer | okay, my torrent manager went down I think :P | 16:11 |
| smartboyhw | LOL | 16:14 |
| smartboyhw | bye | 16:14 |
| shadeslayer | okay, it's up, should work | 16:20 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: I assumed there are seeds for every release | 16:21 |
| shadeslayer | as in, seeds from Canonical | 16:21 |
| ScottK | Yes, but there's a problem right now. | 16:21 |
| shadeslayer | oh okay | 16:21 |
| shadeslayer | I had to drop the older 12.04 images to make space :P | 16:23 |
| shadeslayer | afiestas: pingly | 16:44 |
| afiestas | shadeslayer: half pong | 16:44 |
| shadeslayer | heh okay | 16:45 |
| shadeslayer | afiestas: there's code to handle backlight hotkeys and sound hot keys in KDE right? do you know if there's code to handle keyboard brightness? | 16:45 |
| afiestas | there is a patch by mzanetti | 16:46 |
| shadeslayer | do you know where it is? | 16:46 |
| shadeslayer | ( I happen to have XF86KbdBrightnessDown and XF86KbdBrightnessUp keys, could probably test it ) | 16:47 |
| soee | puff torrent downlad will take ~ 1,5 day :) | 16:47 |
| shadeslayer | soee: is it just your connection? | 16:47 |
| soee | 1 seed only | 16:48 |
| shadeslayer | that would be me | 16:48 |
| shadeslayer | soee: zsync it? | 16:48 |
| soee | zsync ? | 16:48 |
| shadeslayer | !zsync | 16:48 |
| ubottu | Use zsync to update your Ubuntu CD image without needing to download the parts that didn't change. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ZsyncCdImage | 16:48 |
| soee | never heard of it :D | 16:49 |
| ScottK | agateau: Who was the guy that took over p-w-menubar? Need help figuring out Bug 1086868 | 16:49 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1086868 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "No global menu in Plasma (KDE) session in Raring" [Undecided,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1086868 | 16:49 |
| agateau | ScottK: Cédric Bellegarde | 16:49 |
| agateau | ScottK: his irc nick is gnumdk | 16:49 |
| ScottK | agateau: Thanks. | 16:49 |
| afiestas | https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/107329/ | 16:50 |
| soee | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/ | 16:50 |
| soee | whers the 13.04 image ? | 16:50 |
| ScottK | soee: Read the release announcement | 16:50 |
| soee | ok i think i missed something there | 16:50 |
| ScottK | (linked from kubuntu.org) | 16:50 |
| shadeslayer | soee: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/13.04/alpha-1/ | 16:51 |
| ScottK | agateau: He's not on #kde-devel. Any idea where he hangs out? | 16:51 |
| agateau | ScottK: he is most likely offline then | 16:52 |
| ScottK | OK. Thanks. | 16:53 |
| agateau | ScottK: you might want to contact him through https://launchpad.net/~gnumdk | 16:53 |
| ScottK | Thanks. | 16:54 |
| soee | shadeslayer, | 16:59 |
| shadeslayer | yes? | 16:59 |
| soee | ok so i have to download iso and than use it with torrent? | 17:00 |
| ScottK | yofel: Did you take care of today's 4.9.4 breakage? | 17:01 |
| shadeslayer | soee: sure | 17:01 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: I must have uploaded an old version of the packaging | 17:31 |
| shadeslayer | okay | 17:31 |
| * shadeslayer is talking to the tomahawk guys | 17:31 | |
| soee | testing alpha 1 in VB :) | 17:32 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: I renamed it to kmahjongg-data so that's what it should be | 17:32 |
| shadeslayer | right :) | 17:32 |
| soee | is it possible to run VB in fullscreen mode ? | 17:45 |
| soee | what do you think about updating 12.10 to 13.04 ? | 17:53 |
| ScottK | soee: As we said in the release announcement, it may break. | 17:54 |
| ScottK | So you should consider how big a deal that is to you. | 17:54 |
| soee | :) | 17:54 |
| soee | i like to risk :) | 17:55 |
| ScottK | What would be useful is if you could keep your Alpha 1 VB install available to test upgrading to KDE SC 4.10 Beta 2 when we have packages ready (like you did with 4.9.4) | 17:55 |
| * shadeslayer wonders if he has raring-proposed enabled | 17:56 | |
| shadeslayer | yep, so yay | 17:57 |
| soee | well i have 3.04 running on my VB | 17:57 |
| soee | *13.04 | 17:57 |
| soee | works smooth and without errors so far | 17:57 |
| === WhiteKnight is now known as Hawkloon | ||
| ScottK | shadeslayer: You aren't supposed to enable raring-proposed. | 18:09 |
| shadeslayer | but ... but ... I'm a developer! | 18:09 |
| ScottK | Still not. | 18:10 |
| maco | but nothing's been proposed yet | 18:10 |
| ScottK | raring-proposed is for sync'ing up builds. | 18:10 |
| ScottK | maco: Sure. Tons of stuff in proposed since that's where all uploads land initially now | 18:11 |
| maco | wow my server with quassel core on it thinks it's 12 minutes after the hour. my desktop thinks it's 9 minutes after the hour. hrmmm | 18:11 |
| maco | oh | 18:11 |
| shadeslayer | I was under the impression that proposed is for developers | 18:11 |
| maco | new policy stuffs | 18:11 |
| shadeslayer | like | 18:11 |
| shadeslayer | you can enable it, but be prepared to fix your stuff | 18:11 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: Go ask infinity if you should have proposed enabled. | 18:11 |
| shadeslayer | hahaha | 18:11 |
| * shadeslayer is not sure if that's a good idea | 18:11 | |
| * ScottK waits for the earth shattering kaboom. | 18:11 | |
| soee | ok im seeding :) | 19:01 |
| soee | transfer ~ 500kbs | 19:01 |
| shadeslayer | :D | 19:14 |
| shadeslayer | interesting to see how amd64 is already ahead | 19:15 |
| shadeslayer | 3 GB's vs 1 GB | 19:15 |
| Noskcaj | shadeslayer, I'm back, anything happend with the bug? | 19:16 |
| shadeslayer | not that I know of, no | 19:16 |
| shadeslayer | I'm just about to go to sleep, my eyes, they buurrrnnn | 19:16 |
| Riddell | night night shadeslayer | 19:23 |
| shadeslayer | night :) | 19:24 |
| Noskcaj | good night | 19:31 |
| Noskcaj | if anyone cared shadeslayer and i were working on a bug in the preparing to install kubuntu screen, i just found out it affects most flavours | 19:40 |
| shadeslayer | oh yay | 19:44 |
| shadeslayer | well | 19:44 |
| shadeslayer | not yay, but okay | 19:44 |
| shadeslayer | "business card format: 90 x 50 mm or 85 x 55 mm?" | 19:44 |
| shadeslayer | hah | 19:44 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: ^ want to field that one on G+? | 19:44 |
| Riddell | um, I've no idea | 19:44 |
| Riddell | I've not looked for printers | 19:45 |
| shadeslayer | lemme check something real quick | 19:46 |
| shadeslayer | Measured a couple of cards, Canonical does 90x50 , KDE does 85x50 | 19:48 |
| shadeslayer | Collabora does something like 82x52 | 19:49 |
| shadeslayer | Harald's old Kubuntu card is 80x50 | 19:50 |
| shadeslayer | 85x50 looks about right | 19:51 |
| highvoltage | at the very least it's a good idea to not have it bigger than a credit card in any direction | 19:51 |
| shadeslayer | true | 19:52 |
| soee | thats the standard from what i see | 19:52 |
| soee | same as credit card ISO 7810 ID-1 | 19:52 |
| shadeslayer | my debit card is 80x50 | 19:53 |
| highvoltage | I get annoyed when someone gives me a card and it doesn't actually fit in my wallet and I have to fold it and it just ends up taking more space in my wallet | 19:53 |
| shadeslayer | hehe | 19:53 |
| highvoltage | lots of people just end up throwing those away real soon | 19:53 |
| maco | i think 90x50 versus 85x55 is country-dependent | 20:00 |
| maco | US business cards are 2x3.5 inches, iirc | 20:00 |
| shadeslayer | inches @_@ | 20:00 |
| shadeslayer | you're going to make a sleepy shadeslayer do conversions :( | 20:01 |
| maco | thats 89x50 | 20:01 |
| shadeslayer | thx | 20:01 |
| maco | so, just like A4 is longer and narrower than letter, canonicals cards are longer and narrower than US cards | 20:02 |
| maco | no wait thats backwards | 20:03 |
| maco | canonicals match US | 20:03 |
| maco | wahhh | 20:04 |
| shadeslayer | heh | 20:04 |
| maco | screw it have a wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_card#Dimensions | 20:04 |
| shadeslayer | lol | 20:04 |
| shadeslayer | didn't realize there was an article about that | 20:04 |
| maco | oh i <3 wikipedia for paper size comparisons | 20:04 |
| maco | i have some B1 paper at home :P | 20:04 |
| shadeslayer | fun, India follows the 90x55 the UK follows 85x55 | 20:06 |
| shadeslayer | lets get both then :P | 20:06 |
| shadeslayer | US : 88.9 × 50.8 | 20:06 |
| maco | yeah so the US one is like someone took the ones from the bottom row and hit them with a bit of sandpaper on the edges | 20:06 |
| shadeslayer | hey US, y u so weird | 20:06 |
| shadeslayer | ->sleep, for real | 20:07 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: not yet caught up with metric | 20:07 |
| keithzg | Riddell: The U.S. is aggressively resisting metric. Hell, even up here in Canada people give stuff like their weights and heights in American Imperial | 20:26 |
| ScottK | It's the English Imperial system. | 20:27 |
| ScottK | They just gave up on it. | 20:27 |
| dantti_laptop | hi, can you please try to backport 64988f79dc199bbd4e96db0ea34f8c5bb6450747 of network manager? it will fix cisco vpn connection to show the auth dialog :) | 20:42 |
| ScottK | cyphermox: ^^^ | 20:43 |
| cyphermox | let me check | 20:45 |
| cyphermox | dantti_laptop: where's that commit from, do you have a URL? it doesn't match to anything here? | 20:46 |
| dantti_laptop | nm repo | 20:47 |
| dantti_laptop | afaik | 20:47 |
| dantti_laptop | let me check | 20:47 |
| cyphermox | still, it's not a valid commit id in cgit.freedesktop.org/NetworkManager/NetworkManager | 20:47 |
| cyphermox | dantti_laptop: I'm looking twice because it seems like I've already fixed things if it's the issue with paths for starting auth dialogs | 20:48 |
| dantti_laptop | hmm we hunted this bug yesterday... | 20:49 |
| cyphermox | if you can give me a url to the patch or a patch directly I'll be happy to apply it | 20:50 |
| cyphermox | it's just that right now I'd be unable to find the code to apply ;) | 20:50 |
| cyphermox | oh wait, unless the web interface isn't up to date | 20:50 |
| cyphermox | not getting any more luck with git directly :/ | 20:51 |
| dantti_laptop | cyphermox: https://projects.kde.org/projects/extragear/base/networkmanagement/repository/revisions/64988f79dc199bbd4e96db0ea34f8c5bb6450747 | 20:51 |
| cyphermox | ah, that's very different | 20:52 |
| cyphermox | ScottK: are you available to merge request reviews if I apply this, before I upload? | 20:52 |
| cyphermox | dantti_laptop: that's for raring, right? | 20:53 |
| dantti_laptop | cyphermox: if it could be backported to quantal would be cool imo... | 20:54 |
| cyphermox | so maybe there's just no special packaging branch for networkmanagement | 21:05 |
| Riddell | cyphermox: we don't have a packaging branch of that no | 21:06 |
| cyphermox | Riddell: ok, thanks | 21:07 |
| cyphermox | dantti_laptop: did you have a launchpad bug for this? | 21:08 |
| dantti_laptop | no | 21:09 |
| dantti_laptop | I was trying to convinf a coworker to use kde and we found this bug, I talked to lamarque, then we tested and it worked | 21:10 |
| dantti_laptop | *convince | 21:10 |
| cyphermox | ok | 21:12 |
| cyphermox | just let me finish up with this intricate mess of wpasupplicant patches, and I'll finish building/uploading networkmanagement | 21:13 |
| ScottK | cyphermox: Thanks for taking care of it. | 21:14 |
| cyphermox | dantti_laptop: going to start with raring, and do quantal tomorrow if you can remind me | 21:17 |
| dantti_laptop | cyphermox: sure, thanks :) | 21:17 |
| === You're now known as ubuntulog | ||
| yofel | ScottK: if you mean the 4.9.4 patch from dfaure, that's done | 23:26 |
| ScottK | yofel: Yes. Thanks. | 23:26 |
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