[12:09] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:24] <BluesKaj> is the alpha release available , if so where ?
[12:28]  * penguin42 hasn't seen anything so far - but then I've only just switched on
[13:11] <jtaylor> only edubuntu and kubuntu have alphas this time
[13:11] <BluesKaj> hope , the latest images listed here are Dec 5 , http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/
[13:12] <BluesKaj> err nope :)
[13:15] <penguin42> haha Kubuntu before main :-)
[13:16]  * penguin42 better do his update before the millions are let loose on the servers
[13:16] <Ian_Corne> lol
[13:19] <BluesKaj> millions , heh :)
[18:19] <IdleOne> err wrong link
[18:25] <IdleOne> hmm I can't seem to find the correct link, someone ping me if you can.
[18:26] <penguin42> IdleOne: It seems to be getting harder to find release images these days
[18:27] <IdleOne> I got an email that Alpha one was released but hell if I can find the email now
[18:28] <penguin42> well I just googled for that, and found it and it has links for edubuntu and kubuntu but dailys for the rest
[18:28] <IdleOne> Will leave the topic as is then
[18:28] <penguin42> although about 7 hours ago jtaylor said only edubuntu and Kubuntu had been released so far
[18:29] <trism> the emails seems to indicate there won't be an ubuntu alpha 1, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2012-December/000998.html
[18:30] <IdleOne> Just found the email again and you are right, it lists edubuntu and kubuntu
[18:30] <IdleOne> I should have read the whole thing first :)
[18:30] <penguin42> IdleOne: Kubuntu is very nice you know :-)
[18:31] <IdleOne> penguin42: I know :)
[20:16] <BluesKaj> well, the alpha doesn't see my hardware either ....guess 12.10 is it for now , no point in wasting my time testing an OS that can't recognize a common wireless keyboard
[20:24] <penguin42> BluesKaj: It would be great to be able to debug it, it's better that someone like you could extract some debug rather than leaving it to a newbie
[20:26] <BluesKaj> penguin42, there'a really nothing to find or extract , the process freezes immediately upon encountering the microsoft usb transceiver for the Keyboard
[20:27] <BluesKaj> with is 2seconds after choosing "install kubuntu" with the livce cd
[20:28] <penguin42> but it's fine upto that point - i.e. you can select the install kubuntu, and it's also fine if you haven't got that transceiver plugged in?
[20:32] <BluesKaj> well , is the wireless KB and mouse going work if I unplug them ...the problem is the pc is tucked into a corner and practically inaccessible , and using a wired KB and mouse is too inconvenient ...btw this is the first time I've seen this problem in 3 yrs of testing kubuntu releases
[20:33] <penguin42> is it a separate wireless keyboard and mouse or the same?
[20:33] <penguin42> ie a separate transceiver?
[20:33] <BluesKaj> no one transceiver for both KB and mouse
[20:34] <penguin42> ok
[20:35] <BluesKaj> MS keyboard/mouse 2000 combo
[20:35] <penguin42> BluesKaj: Thing is it's possible it fails on a normal keyboard/mouse instead and the wireless stuff is a red-herring; also being able to do an ubuntu-bug on the box would gather a lot of logs
[20:36] <BluesKaj> there is no place for the logs to be stored and accessed
[20:37] <penguin42> BluesKaj: If you're right that it's working upto the point of selecting what to do then you could ctrl-alt-f1, and if you have networking then run ubuntu-bug ubiquity    at that point
[20:37] <BluesKaj> I have some stuff to do for 10 mins or so ...BBL
[20:52] <bjsnider> did he submit a bug? the devs may ask for more info and tell him how to get it
[20:52] <bjsnider> or he could go to the motu channel and ax there himself
[21:08] <BluesKaj> regular serial connected KB freezes as well, there is what seems to be an error , but the line doesn't say error , just "power resource not registered ! " or something similar
[21:09] <BluesKaj> penguin42, that's the last line on the screen
[21:13] <bjsnider> BluesKaj, have you submitted a bug?
[21:14] <BluesKaj> bjsnider, not yet ...suppose I'll have to compose something
[21:15] <bjsnider> there are channel where much greater experts reside, and they might be able to tell you how to get more info
[21:15] <bjsnider> such as #ubuntu-desktop and #ubuntu-motu
[21:16] <BluesKaj> my thinking is the recognition has nothing to do with keyboards or mice ..it's something else
[21:16] <BluesKaj> i'm on kde
[21:17] <bjsnider> yeah, doesn't matter if you're on kde, this is likely not a kde-specific issue
[21:17] <BluesKaj> BBL
[21:17] <bjsnider> this would be happening at a kernel-level or slightly higher
[21:21] <penguin42> BluesKaj: OK, that makes a bit more sense, keyboards are rare to kill machines (although I have seen it); did the ctrl-alt-f1 work before selection?