| mhall119 | aquarius: I know almost nothing about DistUtilsExtra | 00:35 |
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| aquarius | mhall119, this may be simple: the bit in setup.py which sets version number and so on, can I put code in there? Or is it parsed as text? | 00:38 |
| mhall119 | aquarius: it's executed as python | 00:40 |
| aquarius | mhall119, would having a quickly template which contained a compiled executable be acceptable? | 21:34 |
| aquarius | mhall119, I have this idea that a quickly template for qml where you promise you're *only* going to use QML (and not add anything extra) might be a lot simpler than the existing one | 21:35 |
| aquarius | mhall119, so it'd ship with a tiny little exe which was hardcoded to load "myapp.qml" or something similar. But if you have to *compile* that little exe from source to use the template (not to *make* the template) then it's suddenly less cool again | 21:40 |
| mhall119 | aquarius: what would be the benefit to that? | 21:46 |
| aquarius | mhall119, no python, so it's faster. you don't need the 1.8 million different python files that quickly template provides right now | 21:46 |
| mhall119 | aquarius: I mean, why not have the executable's source in the template, and compile it? | 21:47 |
| aquarius | mhall119, because then "quickly run" is complicated and has compile stuff in it and involves C++ and compilers and might fail and will print a million complicated compilation messages that no-one cares about, and you need dev libraries and etc | 21:48 |
| aquarius | I don't think app developers should have to care about that. I mean, it's hard. | 21:49 |
| mhall119 | aquarius: compile it on "quickly create" | 21:50 |
| aquarius | mhall119, it might fail | 21:51 |
| mhall119 | why would it fail on create? | 21:51 |
| aquarius | I think it should be compiled and shipped in the distro as a binary :) | 21:51 |
| aquarius | becuas eyou might not have the right libraries. gcc might be set up wrong. Who knows why C stuff fails? Not having to care about that is why I use python ;) | 21:52 |
| mhall119 | put the lib deps in your template's package so you know they're installed | 21:53 |
| aquarius | also, why would I want to compile it on quickly create? why not just ship a binary? | 21:53 |
| mhall119 | so that you don't have to call your QML file "myapp.qml" | 21:53 |
| aquarius | personally I think Ubuntu should ship a binary called qml-runner and generated stuff should depend on it. :) | 21:54 |
| aquarius | haven't convinced everyone of that yet though | 21:54 |
| mhall119 | you haven't written it yet either ;) | 21:54 |
| aquarius | 'cos I'd have to write it in C++. I'm prepared to put approximately as much work as I would spend writing it into convincing Saviq to write it instead. :P | 21:54 |
| mhall119 | aquarius: you can maybe convince bobweaver in #ubuntu-tv to help you with that, if you really think it's a good idea | 21:57 |
| aquarius | mhall119, ooh good thought :) | 21:57 |
| mhall119 | as long as you'll help get it packaged and submitted to Universe | 21:57 |
| aquarius | that's why I was going to talk to saviq | 22:00 |
| aquarius | :) | 22:00 |
| aquarius | can myapps depend on universe stuff? | 22:10 |
| mhall119 | yes | 22:11 |
| mhall119 | just not other myapps stuff | 22:11 |
| aquarius | kk | 22:17 |
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