[01:34] how do i set up my new Canon MG3122 printer to work? [01:54] I wish there was a not so technical channel for casual users: This channel implies noobish user, #ubuntu is full of seasoned geeks! No in between seems === JoseAntonioR is now known as JoseeAntonioR === yofel_ is now known as yofel === albert is now known as Guest91253 === Guest91253 is now known as Phryq [18:10] I'm kind of a retread for ubuntu beginners...I first used it about 4 years ago, got frustrated with it, used Linux Mint for awhile, now I have a fresh 12.10 install. I'm really liking this one. I debated going with 12.10 and updating more often, or 12.4 with the LTS. I'm still not sure if I made the right decision. [18:21] RickZilla: do both.. or neither [18:21] really doesnt matter.. there are pros and cons to both [18:22] what do it do? lts's where its "mission critical" or something i dont want to mess with much [18:22] my audio production machine is dual booting 10.04 and 12.04 right now [18:23] my daily use laptop is running 12.04, and it will likely stay that way, unless something for the nvidia ion chipset comes around that i *must* have [18:23] This is just a home laptop, I want to use it rather than upgrading all the time [18:23] i use 12.10 other places and would use it for sure.. the reason i do LTS is the support time, not the stability [18:24] That's kind of what I was thinking [18:24] RickZilla: 14.04 LTS will be out before 12.10 is not supported any longer [18:24] I may retrograde at some point [18:24] or, maybe you'll really want 13.10.. [18:24] lol, decisions decisions [18:25] i keep my data backed up.. it doesnt take long to change distros [18:25] right [18:25] I have a few ppa's that I like to keep around also [18:25] the audio production environment is a little different.. but for the desktop, i can reinstall and be up and running in like 20 minutes [18:25] * RickZilla is away: afk [18:26] i say, take a minute and ask yourself, what would you do if that hard drive never booted up again.. which is a plasible scenario that *will* happen at some point [18:27] in the process or properly backing up your data, and making sure it is easily and properly recoverable, i think you'll find that reinstallation of the OS is not that big of a deal [18:27] if the idea of reinstalling the OS fills you with anxiety, its liley due to not having proper backups in place [18:27] likely* [18:28] that being said, i dont want to constantly be fooling around with my "daily driver" [18:28] i have it mirrored from when i first installed the OS and moved all my stuff in and got it setup.. and i have my data otherwise backed up as well [18:29] but, i plan on staying on 12.04 til 14.04.. again, unless something with the nvidia ion is just too appealing to pass up.. and i can always dual boot [18:38] Reinstalling OS is not a problem, I keep backups of critical stuff on externals and cloud storage [18:39] I installed 12.10 alongside windows, and I'm not sure how to access that to install ubuntu over the other one, without messing up Windows, but I'll figure that out [19:16] RickZilla: i typically blow out the linux partitions, and reinstall choosing "install alongside windows on the free space" [19:52] holstein What do you use to blow out the partition? [19:54] RickZilla: either a live cd like gparted or the ultimate boot cd.. or gparted from the live CD that i am install from.. i rarely install without loading up a live CD a few times first and doing some tests [19:54] ah, didn't think about using a live cd for that, I'll keep that in mind for when the time comes [20:15] RickZilla: theres also a custom option in the installer.. you can go in there and blow them out, or just set them to be formatted and re-used [21:25] Does anyone know what the file /dev/btrfs-control is for, specially in a machine that does not use btrfs? [21:26] raub: its empty on my machine.. id say its something that btrfs would use === You're now known as ubuntulog