[00:15] I'm running a Postfix SMTP server, i use the mail-stack-delivery package. But i'm not able to login using SMTP port 25, only using Submission port 587 [00:16] I get, relay access denied :( [00:17] Use port 587. That's what it's for. [00:21] ScottK: But why am i unable to connect using port 25? [00:21] And why not use port 25? [00:22] IIRC, mail-stack-delivery may not set up smtp auth for port 25. [00:22] 587 is for mail submission. [00:22] I know. [00:22] But how to enable it? [00:22] Look in /etc/postfix/master.cf [00:23] If you see what's different for the smtp service and the submission service, you'll probably be able to figure it out. [00:24] 587 is better for people who travel a lot because it's not generally blocked or redirected by ISPs/hotels/etc. [00:25] I cannot see any difference... [00:25] http://pastebin.com/0dJBhnZj [00:28] Interesting. [00:28] It may be something in main.cf too. [00:31] http://pastebin.com/Ca2LqtyB [00:31] :) [00:32] OK. No idea why it works on one port and not the other then. [00:32] Have to be something with the authentication... [00:34] ScottK: Should i uncomment the "-o" lines under the submission line? [00:35] halvors, where are you trying to login _from_? Many ISPs block outbound SMTP connections on 25 as a spam prevention policy. Trying doing it from the server itself if you have not. [00:42] qhartman: I've done that, if you try telneting the server on port 25 (s1.halvors.org) you'll see that it responds... [00:43] halvors1: 250 2.0.0 Ok: queued as C5DB4D60B06 [00:44] Yes :) [00:44] Dec 6 01:43:20 halvors-server postfix/smtpd[29286]: C5DB4D60B06: client=c-71-237-200-29.hsd1.or.comcast.net[71.237.200.29] [00:44] halvors, cool [00:44] halvors1: yay :D [00:44] But it doesn't work when trying to authenticate... [00:45] oh. I never learned how to do that by hand. [00:45] but if you're authenticating, why not use 587? [00:45] you presumably have control over the clients that intend to authenticate.. [00:45] sarnold: Many people try using port 25... [00:45] 5.7.1 : Relay access denied [00:46] When trying to login... [00:46] SMTPS SSL/TLS just times out. === cpg|away is now known as cpg [00:47] sarnold: What port did you use? [00:47] :) [00:47] halvors1: 25 [00:48] Without authenticating? [00:48] halvors1: right [00:48] Isn't that bad? [00:48] it's how email works, for better or worse. :) [00:49] Oh you act like a mail server? [00:49] halvors1: yeah [00:49] And connect on port 25 to deliver mail? [00:49] halvors1: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1413692/ [00:49] I typed all the lines without status codes :) [00:50] If you try sending to halvors@skymiastudios.com does it reject then? [00:51] halvors1: Yes. That's how you enable it. [00:52] halvors1: denied [00:53] funny, even mail from: sarnold@halvors.org, rcpt to: halvors@skymiastudios.com fails [00:54] if your planning on netboot install 12.10 be ready for some headaches [00:55] sarnold: hmm. [00:55] Cause that works when using port 587 and starttls [00:55] halvors1: you probably set the relay rules by certificate? [00:56] Um. I really don't know, where is that options set? [00:57] http://paste.ubuntu.com/1413705/ [01:03] sarnold: Any idea? [01:03] halvors1: no, sorry :) [01:03] I was expecting to see a relaymap or something... [01:04] .. and with the destination domains not including skymiastudios.com I was a bit surprised that mail gets there on port 587, but .. it's been a long time since I've _used_ postfix. [01:09] http://paste.ubuntu.com/1413721/ [01:10] sarnold: Do you think the following lines should be commented out? [01:10] halvors1: no idea there :) sorry :( === luigi is now known as Guest66160 [01:17] sarnold: Ok thank you for your time :) [01:17] halvors1 :) [01:17] I just wish I had the answers.. [01:18] sarnold: :) === VD is now known as Guest59294 === VD is now known as Guest38297 === cpg is now known as cpg|away [02:22] re libvirt merge> sure thing [02:22] hallyn: ^ === shang_ is now known as shang === cpg|away is now known as cpg === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === Ursinha is now known as Guest52907 [05:24] hello [05:24] anyone use ubuntu 12.04 or 04.1 as -vserver? [05:26] I have a debian squeeze install with 3 vservers. Can I painlessly (i.e. set up/config vservers on ubuntu server box, copy the vserver bodies from debian, start services, profit) migrate that to Ubuntu Server 12.04.* ? [05:27] The big question is, can I run debian squeeze inside of ubuntu-12.04 server? [05:51] I'm pretty sure you can. [05:51] But I haven't done it myself. === LordOfTime is now known as TheLordOfTime === smb` is now known as smb === ibiris|afk is now known as ibiris [09:46] New bug: #1087183 in maas "MaaS cloud-init configuration specifies 'manage_etc_hosts: localhost'" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1087183 === chmurifree is now known as chmuri === fire_wall is now known as hack === mcclurmc_away is now known as mcclurmc === nerd is now known as hack [11:31] zul, I'm looking at bug 1085038; looks like the generated entry points are all easy-install so not relevant for the packaging [11:31] Launchpad bug 1085038 in quantum "Python Modules : Wrong versions" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1085038 === mcclurmc is now known as mcclurmc_away === mcclurmc_away is now known as mcclurmc [11:37] guys. are there any plans on compiling libvirt with vpx support? === yofel_ is now known as yofel [11:49] that might come down from debian... [11:49] the exclusion of esx that is [12:11] New bug: #1087228 in bind9 (main) "/etc/network/if-down.d/bind9 doesn't work; should be /etc/network/if-post-down.d/bind9" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1087228 [12:25] yolanda, zul, adam_g: review up for quantum - https://code.launchpad.net/~james-page/quantum/grizzly-updates-1/+merge/138438 [12:26] also worth being aware of bug 1030195 [12:26] Launchpad bug 1030195 in lintian "lintian reports errors in postinst because of upstart dh_installinit behavior " [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1030195 [12:26] I'm pretty sure that alot of postrm scripts are being generated to get rid of that error when its actually a false positive [13:02] ooooh [13:03] vpx/esx is disabled because it would [13:03] put libvirt in multiverse, isn't it? === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [13:35] zul: hey, when you get some time, i think i need some packaging help with https://launchpad.net/~serge-hallyn/+archive/crossc/+sourcepub/2825655/+listing-archive-extra [13:36] hallyn: sure just getting in [13:36] which means still waking up [13:36] zul: me too, tbh === hack is now known as video === cpg is now known as cpg|away [13:43] hi, i m using debian.. and i m getting this error when apt-get update W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net lucid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY B18637BB5175BC68... ? how is this posiblle? [13:45] saban: did you use add-apt-repository to add your PPA? If not, the easiest way to explain how to fix it is just to remove it from sources.list and use add-apt-repository to add it again [13:46] zul: so really i have two questions, the non-urgent one is what i should call the version # on the new qemu package, given the debian version is < both the ubuntu qemu-kvm and qemu-linaro versions [13:47] erm.. [13:47] zul: the more urgent one is what to do with qemu-utils and qemu-kvm breaks/replaces [13:47] jamespage: ^^^ [13:48] rbasak: as i remember i didnt add anything. and my source.list is this http://pastebin.com/h9wBdkUY [13:48] hallyn: so uh what? :) [13:48] zul: hold on, i'll ask you in 29 mins [13:48] 20 that is :) [13:48] k [13:48] thx [13:51] saban: check /etc/apt/sources.list.d/. And it looks like you're running Debian, not Ubuntu! [13:52] zul, was ^^^ in reference to quantum or hallyn question? [13:52] hallyn: question [13:53] er.. [13:53] jamespage: hallyn's question [13:55] rbasak: yes i know :P i was just asking here becouse i hadnt any clue why i have ppa problem in my debian server.. i got it now one of program was from ubuntu package or something.. now i know where is the problem... tnx [14:04] * jamespage thinks [14:07] hallyn, can you explain the version # question more? whats the difference between ubuntu+debian? [14:07] jamespage: the more urgent problem I have is: qemu-kvm depends on qemu-system depends on qemu-utils, qemu-utils does break/replace qemu-kvm, but it wnts to be upgraded before qemu-kvm (bc of the relations) [14:07] so short version is 'apt-get dist-upgrade breaks' [14:08] ugh [14:08] right. and because of the way files are being moved between packages, everything needs to be replaced at once [14:08] Are none of those relationships versioned? [14:09] all are [14:09] isn't helping [14:09] when qemu-utils is being upgraded, it's seeing the old qemu-kvm... [14:10] Is this already uploaded or do I need to look in bzr to see the control file? [14:10] If the latter, which branch do I need? [14:11] soren: uploaded to ppa:serge-hallyn/crossc for raring [14:13] soren, dget -u https://launchpad.net/~serge-hallyn/+archive/crossc/+files/qemu_1.2.0-z-dfsg-8.dsc [14:14] qemu-system doesn't seem to depend on qemu-utils, fwiw. [14:14] It recommends it, though, so the result is probably mostly the same. [14:15] hallyn, I'm not sure you need Breaks/Replaces on qemu-kvm itself as its a transitional package [14:15] jamespage: i need the files in the old qemu-kvm to be removed before qemu-system is installed... [14:15] but yeah, qemu-system break/replacing *should* be enough [14:15] i'm just getting desparate :) [14:16] At least your kvm package will need an epoch added to it. [14:16] yeah i'll get rid of the break/replaces on qemu-kvm altogether. [14:17] soren: what do you mean? [14:17] hallyn: Sorry, I phrased that poorly. [14:17] hallyn: Your kvm package will need an epoch. [14:17] soren: that also sounds like part of an answer to my first question - how to version these [14:18] hallyn: The others won't need it, just the kvm one. Otherwise it won't supersede the existing kvm package. [14:19] hallyn, I'm wondering whether not having a (= ${source:Version) on Recommends: qemu-utils might be something todo with [14:19] it [14:19] * jamespage grasps at straws [14:19] soren: is the kvm package still needed? it was transitional... [14:20] jamespage: that sounds right! [14:20] hallyn: Nope, you should be able to just get rid of it. Good point. [14:21] soren: though will ppl get confused if they can't apt-get install kvm' ? [14:21] hallyn, Recommends can do weird stuff with ordering and configuration [14:22] hallyn: Other things that you can get rid of also include: [14:22] Conflicts: kvm (= 85+dfsg-4.1) [14:22] * jamespage thinks of bacula as a case in point [14:22] It's been a while since that was useful (if ever). [14:22] hallyn: Yeah, that's true. [14:22] hallyn: Things might still depend on kvm rather than qemu-kvm or whatever. [14:23] soren: current raring package does not have an epoch on kvm... [14:23] hallyn: Yes, it does? [14:24] Hm. [14:24] From what I can tell, apt is doing exactly what it's being told. [14:24] You're specifying that qemu depends on qemu-system (>= same version). [14:25] So you're telling it that qemu-system must be installed before qemu. [14:25] Same for qemu-system -> qemu-utils. [14:25] i'm not asking for qemu [14:25] Oh, sorry. [14:26] Well, same problem, really. [14:26] the lack of versioning on recommends as jamespage suggested sounds a likely culprit, [14:26] qemu-kvm depends on qemu-system (= same version). [14:26] So it must be installed first. [14:26] right [14:26] And then qemu-system says it needs qemu-utils first. [14:26] But qemu-utils says it'll break qemu-kvm. [14:26] << its own version [14:27] Right. [14:27] so i want qemu-kvm removed. [14:27] that should do the right thing right? [14:27] it takes hours for a build to happen so i want to look for other possible problems before submitting :) [14:27] Are you attempting to get rid of qemu-kvm? [14:27] Is that the goal? [14:27] yes [14:27] Ah. I see. [14:28] qemu-system provides everything [14:28] I missed that entirely. [14:28] (it's the debian-experimental git branch, merging qemu+qemu-kvm) [14:28] sorry - that would be confusing then! [14:29] Which package replaces qemu-kvm? [14:29] qemu-system [14:30] Ok. So qemu-system should say that it replaces, conflicts and provides qemu-kvm. [14:30] oh, provides [14:30] Yeah. [14:30] The problem is that you have versioned dependencies on it. [14:31] I don't think we can do versioned provides yet. [14:31] I could be wrong, though. It's been a while. [14:32] Does anything have a versioned dependency on qemu-kvm? [14:32] so right now i have http://paste.ubuntu.com/1414805/ [14:32] as the new debian/control [14:32] they just have breaks/replaces on versioned qemu-kvm [14:34] soren: jamespage: all right i'll try the pastebin'd version; my other question then was, [14:35] no, [14:35] oh i didn't type that [14:36] debian version is 1.2.0-dfsg, ubuntu version is 1.2.0+noroms and 1.2.0-2012 [14:36] apart from updating the source to qemu 1.3.0, or doing what i'm doing in ppa (using 1.2.0-z-dfsg), [14:36] is there something else i can do with the versioning when switching to the debian packages? [14:37] i don't wnat to do an epoch really since the problem goes away with 1.3.0 [14:47] soren: jamespage: thanks, let's see how that goes (build queued) [15:01] hi, I have had a hard time getting this sorted out in #ubuntu, my issue may require some more expertise, so I'm here :) I'm trying to install redmine on a ubuntu server, so it is relevant. [15:01] http://dpaste.com/842127/ <<< libmagick-dev won't install properly for me, having cancelled aptitude mid-run [15:01] aptitude install & cancel looked like: http://dpaste.de/qi8dq/ [15:54] adam_g, I think we need to wrestle the swift charms back off my finnie [15:55] there ain't much review going on around this commits. [15:57] jdstrand: hey, [15:57] jdstrand: so i'm working on a patch to allow 9p mounts in libvirt, [15:57] but the example used in the bug report was a 9pfs under /home [15:57] virt-aa-helper expliclty disallows paths under /home [15:57] do we want to enforce that for this too? [15:58] hallyn: I'm not familiar with 9p mounts. what do they do? [15:59] i'm not either in particular, but they offer a dir on the host through the 9pfs network fs to the vm, [15:59] and actually my patch is treating them and fstype=bind the same way [16:00] (this is re bug 943680) [16:00] Launchpad bug 943680 in libvirt "Apparmor profile does not authorize access to 9p shared filesystems " [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/943680 [16:01] wait, i don't see home explicitly listed [16:01] hallyn: yeah, me either [16:02] but i do get virt-aa-helper: error: /home/ubuntu/9p [16:02] hallyn: are you talking about the apparmor profile for virt-aa-helper itself, or the profile it generates for the vm? [16:02] virt-aa-helper: error: skipped restricted file [16:02] the profile it generates for the vm [16:02] gah, sorry, biam [16:03] hallyn: that is probably this check: [16:03] case S_IFDIR: [16:03] return 1; [16:03] break; [16:08] jdstrand: oh. that's right. thanks! i guess i need to make that '${x}/**' [16:08] hallyn: what type of rule do you want to add in the end? [16:08] right [16:08] so... [16:08] that will require more work [16:09] snprintf :) [16:09] hallyn: maybe create a vah_add_dir() [16:09] fyi, upstream doesn't like snprintf [16:09] sigh [16:09] double sigh [16:09] they wont reply to me anyway :) [16:10] ok i think i'm going to put that off then. i thought it might be a quick addition to the other patches i sent to you for review, [16:10] hallyn: possibly because you didn't run 'make check' 'make syntax-check' [16:10] make syntax-check will tell you about things like snprint [16:10] f [16:11] and tell me to write in a custom language? [16:11] they will want you to use something like virBufferAsprintf [16:12] so would I btw, that is what virt-aa-helper does [16:12] I got dinged for that when I submitted my patches initially [16:12] hallyn: so, it doesn't have to be overly complicated [16:13] no but there are other things to do, and i'm chafing at custom language [16:13] vah_add_file() grows a 'bool dir' arg [16:13] then you can have a different call to virBufferAsprintf when its true [16:14] valid_path could also grow a 'bool dir' [16:14] do we want the same restrictions on dirs as on files? [16:14] (besides "can't be a dir" :) [16:15] then in get_files() if it is 9p, set dir=True, otherwise default to False [16:16] jdstrand: not quite like that, [16:16] hallyn: re same restrictions> for now, I think yes [16:17] i'm specifically running through the ctl->def->fss and looking for 'mount' and 'bind' fstypes, [16:17] but right [16:17] well, ok [16:17] basically, default to False unless you need it to be True :) [16:17] (just want to make sure you're not suggesting I do this elsewhere through a call to reload_profile) [16:18] no, just in get_files() [16:19] ok. thanks. i guess first (once my disgust settles) i'll do the virBufferAsprintf thing for the patches i've already sent. [16:19] hallyn: so, I was going to suggest making 'make syntax-check' happy. should I just wait for you to do that before I review the merge? [16:19] soren: jamespage: ok, still having the same problem... [16:20] hallyn: sorry about that. actually, once you get used to it, their functions work pretty well... but I empathize having gone through it myself [16:20] jdstrand: well assuming it's a simple replacement, i'd say no, there's a lot more to those patches which could have real bugs [16:21] so as long as there's no problems with the fundamental patches, then i can avoid bugging you next time i send :) [16:21] soren: jamespage: so qemu-kvm upgrade causes qemu-system install recommends qemu-utils install which breaks on the old version of qemu-kvm, which isn't installed bc of this loop. [16:22] hm, lemme check the pkg contents. maybe that last conflicts isn't strictly needed [16:24] drat. it is. qemu-io is in both [16:25] wait, if i have qemu-system providing qemu-kvm, does that mean i don't need a qemu-kvm metapackage? [16:26] hallyn, I might be tempted to mock this up in an empty package [16:26] so I could tweak the depends and see effects quickly [16:27] do i maybe want conflicts instead of breaks? [16:31] jamespage: yes, except i'd probably spend several hours setting that up without breaking the rest of the packaging so nothing installs :) [16:31] lemme ask this q in -devel [16:32] hallyn, I think that might be a good idea === matsubara is now known as matsubara-lunch [16:41] uh, wait. i see another stupid thing i did. not necessarily related, but perhaps. biab [16:42] yolanda, looking at your revised MP for nova/upstart now [16:43] jamespage, i was trying to finish the testings anyway [16:43] so maybe it isn't correct [16:47] yolanda, the changelog is a little fuddled and not correct formatted - but aside from that looks OK [16:48] jamespage, i have it pending to be corrected, yes, i need to push the changes [17:05] adam_g, zul: any objection if I create some new views in the lab? I like the OS series centric stuff we have in the public instance [17:05] no objections here if it makes life easier [17:20] yolanda, merged your changes; deploying into the lab right now.... [17:20] (nova is the trigger for a re-deployment test - and adam_g appears to have the grizzly deployment on precise working now) [17:27] great! [17:27] i trust more in the changes, now i can test it properly with the new environment === matsubara-lunch is now known as matsubara [17:51] New bug: #1087363 in bacula (main) "package bacula-director-mysql 5.2.5-0ubuntu6.2 failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1087363 [17:53] jamespage: +1 to both swift charms and modifying the jenkins views. i was hoping todo some swift work this week. [17:54] adam_g, the swift charms contain some bad juju atm the moment [17:54] jamespage: is cloud-init the main blocker for quantum's use of config drive on 12.04? [17:54] rebooted [17:54] adam_g, its the guest that needs the later version of cloud-init [17:54] jamespage: ya, last i checked the keystone stuff was hard-coded config options. actually it seems whoever pushed the changes to the official charms didn't push all of them [17:55] jamespage: oh, ok, so its a guest-only issue? [17:55] adam_g, yes [17:55] adam_g, quantal cloud images should just work [17:55] adam_g, the other thing you need todo is create a tenant network [17:55] jamespage: okay. i tried boht last night with no luck. the instance never got its IP, which i assume it gets from the node running the dhcp agent? [17:55] adam_g, the ext_net is shared across tenants and has not DHCP - its for floating IP's [17:56] adam_g, nova-cloud-controller has a 'quantum-tenant-net' script which will create one for you [17:56] I created one for the admin tenant and then ran nova instances as that admin user - that worked OK [17:56] jamespage: but for fixed-ips.. i had the network and ports created so that new instances got new fixed IPs from the tenants network associated with it, but the IP never made it to the instance via DHCP [17:58] jamespage: does all of the internal traffic flow over eth0? or is it possible/required to set that stuff to use a specific network, similar to flat_interface /w FlatDHCP? [17:59] jdstrand: lp:~serge-hallyn/ubuntu/raring/libvirt/libvirt-hugepages updated to use virBuffer [17:59] recon i need to resend to libvirt list [18:01] adam_g, it does; its encapsulated in gre tunnels between the ovs instances in each compute node and the quantum gateway [18:01] adam_g, its possible todo other network configurations but thats the one the charm supports right now [18:01] I do want to add other ones.... [18:02] adam_g, I've not tried what you did with the tenant network;;; [18:03] you should end up with a dnsmasq instance running on the gateway which dishes DHCP [18:05] jamespage: yup. all *looked* okay. there was dnsmasq running with a host file that was updated when instances came and went, but DHCP appeared not to be working from the instances. [18:05] ill redeploy soon and have another look [18:06] adam_g, OK [18:06] worth checking the tunnels have setup ok with 'ovs-vsctl show' - you should see one for each endpoint on quantum-agent and nova-compute nodes === mcclurmc is now known as mcclurmc_away [18:07] adam_g, I stuck in a fix for the python-dnspython problem for all three charms - see my comment in the bug report as to why this is required [18:07] jamespage: ack [18:13] can anyone help me about how to combine 3 dd images from 3 SCSI physical disk to one image? the images got through RAID controller. i am trying to launch those to VMWare!! [18:14] heh? [18:15] your in the wrong place then [18:15] and if you combine them into one image, you will mess it all up [18:15] nidazole: (a) prepare for, and mentally accept, that you cannot do this. (b) _maybe_ there are md or dm tools that might be able to do this, but it'll probably be annoying, difficult, and you may be the first... [18:15] you need to convert them to vmdk files [18:15] oh wait [18:15] your attempting to join 3 disks from a raid? [18:16] ya, I did that last month [18:16] you have to write a program to do it :) or use a very expensive windows program [18:16] patdk-wk: hardware raid controller? :) [18:16] I missread images got through raid, as images not through raid [18:17] md didnt work [18:17] in my case, hardware raid died [18:17] why would md work? [18:18] how to convert split dd images to vmdk? [18:18] LIVEVIEW? [18:18] nidazole, you write a program to do it :) [18:18] and define split [18:19] I seriously doubt your *raid* was setup for concat [18:19] qemu has a helper tool qemu-img which is fantastic for converting between the various formats [18:19] yes, that will come after you joined the 3 drives back into 1 [18:20] patdk-wk: ok :) how? [18:20] make a program :) [18:21] patdk-wk: did you need documentation from the raid card vendor or were you able to figure out the data format by inspection alone? [18:21] sarnold, I didn't need anything [18:22] I knew how I setup the raid, so I knew the params, and just wrote a program to unstripe the data [18:22] also added sparsefile support into it, cause I have a habbit of zero'ng my disks, so it saved a crapload of time [18:22] patdk-wk: there was no metadata on the drives that you had to skip? no funny geometry problems? :) [18:22] in my case, raid10 setup with 128k blocks [18:22] patdk-wk: hahahaha [18:22] patdk-wk++ [18:23] no metadata, if there was, it was at the end of the disks [18:23] dumped finished image to new disk, and reboot :) [18:24] patdk-wk: hooray for documenting / remembering your setup. Nice. :) [18:25] I also recovered a raid50 setup, last jan [18:25] that was much more fun :) [18:26] raid50 with 7 disks, 3 bad disks, raid card totally screwed [18:27] finding working disks, getting them in order, recover each of them using ddrescue [18:27] took almost a week [18:28] those had metadata, but it was easy to locate a *correct* mbr, and then adjust for it [18:28] ooo [18:29] so the question still remains, how did he have his raid setup? raid1 with spare? raid5? maybe raid6 but I doubt it [18:30] thanks, patdk-wk. [18:30] about expensive programs? [18:32] what programs? [18:32] and what kind of params i need to write a program? [18:36] is what I used at one time: www.ufsexplorer.com/download_pro.php [18:38] patdk-wk: can i combine the images with this? [18:39] I think so, been a long time since I used it [18:40] patdk-wk: and one more question please. what kind of params i need to write a program? [18:40] heh [18:41] just heh? [18:41] :) [18:41] ask an understandable question [18:42] i cant, but thank you very much. [18:43] very usefull to me. === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === ibiris is now known as ibiris|afk [19:13] stgraber: for lxcapi get/set_cgroup_item, i was going to pass in a container obj and use the container's cgroup. Not name a cgroup. Based on your email i'm not sure that's what you mean. di dyou mean to pass a cgroup name in? [19:14] hallyn: oh yeah, my e-mail was a bit confusing, I guess the C implementation would be something like get_cgroup_item(c, subsystem, key) [19:16] kewl [19:16] (actually it'll be 'int (*get_cgroup_item)(container, char *subsys, char *retv, int inlen) [19:17] ok, same as get_config_item, works for me :) [19:18] stgraber: exactly :) thanks [19:18] after the binding, I expect it to be possible to do things like lxc.Container("p1").get_cgroup_item("blkio", "blkio.throttle.io_service_bytes") in python which would return the content of /sys/fs/cgroup/blkio/lxc/p1/blkio.throttle.io_service_bytes [19:19] it's unfortunate that we need to repeat the blkio part in the key, but well, that's how cgroups are and it's not worth working around :) [19:29] hello [19:30] hi cryptonite [19:31] i was interested in setting up a home mail server, what do you think will the rasberry pi be enough or would it be better to run it on a vps? [19:33] I'd recommend against the Pi simple because residential connections and smtp don't mix well [19:33] cryptonite: storage is probably the weak point, I'm not sure I'd want a mail spool on sd or usb.. [19:34] good point shauno :) [19:35] shauno: what do you mean? [19:36] i have also an atom setup which could be used too [19:36] cryptonite: many isps block smtp on residential connections, because the primary use-case for it is trojan'd windows boxen. [19:36] and I have to say I agree with them. the valid few are far, far out-numbered [19:37] … and many other ISPs also put their dynamic IPs on RBLs to help _others_ block their users as well :) [19:38] i think i could disable the smtp port blocking for my connection... [19:39] but you say that other people might not get the emails i send them? [19:39] so the cloudimg images, they boot with console=tty1 and console=ttyS0, and it seems like it boots with the kernel displaying tty1, but in the plymouth world that means you just see kernel messages and not anything from/above init. Is there an easy way round that? I'd quite like to see all the output [19:40] cryptonite: yeah, that's happened to me before... [19:40]