[14:18] <snap-l> Morning
[14:18] <rick_h_> morn
[14:18] <snap-l> Having fun yet?
[14:18] <rick_h_> no
[14:19] <rick_h_> h8 buildout
[14:19] <rick_h_> and damn pip for not doing proper offline installs still
[14:19] <rick_h_> and ugh head cold
[14:19] <rick_h_> but other than that...party!!!!!
[14:19] <snap-l> "Buildout is an exceedingly civilized way to develop an app." --Jacob Kaplan-Moss, creator of Django
[14:19] <snap-l> ^ There's your problem
[14:20] <snap-l> "Even if you are not planning on writing any custom code, the buildout approach is an easy way to install Plone in a robust, well-tested manner." --Martin Aspeli, Plone core developer.
[14:20] <snap-l> ^ And another. ;)
[14:21] <snap-l> Ugh, this tutorial doesn't make me a fan
[14:21] <snap-l> http://www.buildout.org/docs/tutorial.html
[14:22] <snap-l> It's like they stopped working on it after 2009
[14:22] <rick_h_> yea, started back up recently in 2012 because of py3
[14:22] <rick_h_> but the docs/etc still suck
[14:22]  * snap-l scrolls down to the (c) date and notices he's not far off
[14:23] <snap-l> Not the best place to start with a head cold.
[14:23] <rick_h_> come on weekedn!
[14:23] <snap-l> cranky + cranky = cranky
[14:23] <rick_h_> err end
[14:23] <rick_h_> hah
[14:23] <rick_h_> something like that.
[14:23] <rick_h_> mitechie math
[14:23] <snap-l> cranky + cranky = cranky^2
[14:24] <snap-l> Also, <3 it when I find out about an auto process that is launching next week the week beforehand
[14:25] <snap-l> Granted, it should have been a week and a half had I not taken yesterday off
[14:25] <snap-l> but as is the custom, the devil is in the details
[14:25] <snap-l> Get files from this server, do something, and then put them on the customer server
[14:26] <rick_h_> ugh
[14:26] <rick_h_> yea, testing, what surprises await
[14:28] <snap-l> Although today's Dilbert Calendar is strangely serindipitous
[14:29] <rick_h_> hah
[14:29] <snap-l> http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2009-12-07/
[16:52] <rick_h_> gah using svn!!!
[16:53] <snap-l> It just gets better as time progresses, no?
[16:57] <brousch> rick_h_: How do you find these crazy projects?
[16:59] <rick_h_> we're using xapian and some library that's not been updated in March and last release was 21010
[16:59] <brousch> Violent Python: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1597499579/
[17:29] <snap-l> Love the title
[18:03] <snap-l> nice! Orange Squeeze updated!
[18:03] <snap-l> Supports downloading tracks
[18:44] <jrwren> rick_h_: you played with thoonk yet?
[18:56] <rick_h_> not at all
[18:56] <rick_h_> haven't even heard of it that I can recall
[18:57] <jrwren> looks interesting.
[18:57] <jrwren> AMQ like implemented as a DFA on Redis
[18:58] <rick_h_> yea, we're using redis for some queue stuff
[18:58] <rick_h_> celery works ootb with redis as well
[18:58] <rick_h_> but not used anything like this to wrap it
[18:58] <jrwren> interesting.
[18:59] <rick_h_> yea, makes for a nice queue because it's in memory it's fast, but persistant and you can inspect the queue unlike rabbitmq