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| superfly | Morning mazal | 04:57 |
|---|---|---|
| superfly | Maaz: tell Kilos good morning | 04:58 |
| Maaz | superfly: Got it, I'll tell Kilos on freenode | 04:58 |
| mazal | Morning superfly | 05:03 |
| superfly | Anyone have any tips on stopping a shaving cut from bleeding? | 05:09 |
| inetpro | superfly: stop shaving | 05:09 |
| inetpro | good morning | 05:10 |
| superfly | inetpro: thanks, I'll file that under, "prevention" | 05:11 |
| inetpro | Maaz: tell kilos Guten Morgen | 05:11 |
| Maaz | inetpro: Sure, I'll tell Kilos on freenode | 05:11 |
| inetpro | lol | 05:11 |
| Kilos | morning superfly inetpro and others | 05:11 |
| Maaz | Kilos: By the way, inetpro on freenode told me "tell kilos Guten Morgen" 7 seconds ago | 05:11 |
| inetpro | sjoe | 05:11 |
| superfly | Kilos: have any tips on stopping a shaving cut from bleeding? | 05:11 |
| Kilos | hehe | 05:11 |
| inetpro | Kilos: you are late | 05:11 |
| inetpro | Kilos: he needs your help | 05:12 |
| inetpro | now | 05:12 |
| Kilos | ya been watching ddrescue go through its paces so slowly | 05:12 |
| Kilos | staal druppels | 05:12 |
| inetpro | sjoe | 05:12 |
| Kilos | lennons products | 05:12 |
| * inetpro wonders whether he would have that | 05:13 | |
| inetpro | superfly: is it really that bad? | 05:13 |
| superfly | inetpro: no, just incessant | 05:13 |
| superfly | it has been bleeding for the last hour | 05:13 |
| inetpro | wow! | 05:13 |
| Kilos | wow | 05:14 |
| Kilos | stick a plaster over it | 05:14 |
| superfly | Kilos: het nie een nie | 05:14 |
| Kilos | ai | 05:14 |
| inetpro | yikes | 05:14 |
| Kilos | toilet paperr | 05:14 |
| inetpro | Kilos: with kids in the house you better get yourself some plaster, please | 05:15 |
| Kilos | me? | 05:15 |
| inetpro | oops | 05:15 |
| superfly | i've got a tissue, busy using it every few minutes (or seconds) | 05:15 |
| Kilos | i got lotsa plaster | 05:15 |
| inetpro | superfly: ^^ | 05:15 |
| superfly | Hehehe | 05:15 |
| superfly | Kilos: not that kind of plaster... Bandaids | 05:16 |
| inetpro | superfly: swedish bitters | 05:16 |
| Kilos | superfly, just put a small double piece of toilet paper there and hold it | 05:16 |
| Kilos | ya bandaids elastoplast them sticky things | 05:17 |
| Kilos | then make the paper patch black with a cokey pen and tell peeps you trying to see what you will look like with a black beard but trying only in a small place to see | 05:18 |
| Kilos | hehe | 05:18 |
| Kilos | hi barrydk | 05:19 |
| barrydk | Good morning everyone | 05:19 |
| Kilos | hi mazal | 05:19 |
| superfly | hi barrydk | 05:19 |
| superfly | barrydk: lemme guess, you use Afrihost as your ISP? | 05:19 |
| superfly | Kilos: thanks, looks like keeping the tissue pressed against my lip has worked | 05:21 |
| Kilos | mtnbusiness i see. what you looking at fly? | 05:21 |
| barrydk | wrong superfly it is access | 05:21 |
| Kilos | yay | 05:21 |
| superfly | barrydk: that was my second guess | 05:21 |
| superfly | barrydk: I use them too, but Afrihost is more popular | 05:22 |
| barrydk | ok didnt know and dont realy care as long as it is working. | 05:23 |
| mazal | Why is Afrihost better superfly ? | 05:23 |
| barrydk | What made you think that | 05:23 |
| Kilos | best internet connection is one that works ya | 05:24 |
| mazal | hehehehe | 05:24 |
| barrydk | Here in our part of the world beggers cant be choosers the choices arent wide | 05:25 |
| superfly | mazal: it isn't - I said it was more *popular* | 05:26 |
| mazal | Ah ok , thought you had some info that I need on that one :) | 05:26 |
| mazal | Always looking for something better if there is | 05:27 |
| superfly | barrydk: Axxess is owned by Afrihost, and Afrihost got MTN to build them a nationwide network. So Axxess got to benefit from that. | 05:27 |
| superfly | mazal: in my experience, Axxess is that. | 05:28 |
| barrydk | ok | 05:28 |
| barrydk | So actualy your first guess was correct | 05:28 |
| superfly | barrydk: so when you join the channel we can see which network you're joining from | 05:29 |
| superfly | and you joined from the mtnbusiness network - the new one made for Afrihost and Axxess | 05:29 |
| barrydk | ok interesting i would never have looked or think about that as i said it must only work | 05:30 |
| Kilos | hehe superfly is the cut on your lip? | 05:32 |
| Kilos | funny place to shave | 05:32 |
| Kilos | but easy to cover tissue paper then with lipstick | 05:32 |
| superfly | Kilos: well, maybe you can't grow a snor, but I don't wanna look like a bergie | 05:33 |
| Kilos | oh top lip | 05:33 |
| Kilos | hehe | 05:33 |
| superfly | i already did for movember | 05:34 |
| mazal | Can you guys explain something to be re that network adress | 05:37 |
| superfly | mazal: what do you want explained? | 05:37 |
| mazal | (~barrydk@105-236-22-140.access.mtnbusiness.co.za) | 05:37 |
| mazal | That number is the ip yes ? | 05:37 |
| superfly | yes | 05:37 |
| mazal | Why do me and barry have the same one even though we working on different laptops | 05:38 |
| mazal | Should we have different ones ? | 05:38 |
| mazal | We are on the same router , butter different machines | 05:39 |
| superfly | anything else...? | 05:39 |
| superfly | Oh, looks like I'm lagging | 05:39 |
| superfly | mazal: there, you said it yourself | 05:41 |
| mazal | I thought each of our machines should have had a different ip. Or does the ISP give the one ip to the router ? | 05:41 |
| mazal | And then the router gives different dhcp ip's on the lan for our laptops ? | 05:41 |
| superfly | mazal: do you know the difference between an internal and an external IP address? | 05:42 |
| mazal | Nope , but I think I am learning that now | 05:42 |
| superfly | mazal: do you know what is so special about the 192.168.0.0 range? | 05:43 |
| mazal | That is my router's range on my lan | 05:43 |
| mazal | But other than that I dunno hat is special about the range | 05:44 |
| mazal | what even | 05:44 |
| superfly | no, not really. My lan uses 192.168.1.0, and it is in that same /range/ | 05:44 |
| superfly | mazal: I'm on my phone, you'll have to Google it for me. | 05:45 |
| mazal | The range ? | 05:45 |
| superfly | Yup | 05:45 |
| mazal | Hmm , very interesting. It's a class c private range not usable on the internet | 05:48 |
| mazal | So the router gives that range to the laptops on the lan for the lan network , but the isp then gives an external ip to the router for accessing internet if I start to get this correctly | 05:49 |
| barrydk | Superfly : So if i want to run a server at home that is accesable from outside i must ask my isp for a dedicated ip ad? | 05:54 |
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| Kilos | hi Trixar_za | 06:02 |
| superfly | barrydk: you can, though that would be extremely expensive | 06:09 |
| Trixar_za | Hey Kilos | 06:10 |
| barrydk | any ideas how much | 06:10 |
| superfly | nope, but that's not what I do | 06:10 |
| superfly | I use a dynamic dns service | 06:10 |
| mazal | You teaching us too many thing to play with this morning , we gonna break something lol | 06:12 |
| mazal | Gonna research that a bit , sounds interesting | 06:13 |
| barrydk | So you have one at home | 06:14 |
| superfly | barrydk: server? | 06:14 |
| barrydk | yip | 06:15 |
| superfly | I have 2 | 06:15 |
| superfly | though one is mostly used as a router | 06:15 |
| barrydk | ok | 06:15 |
| mazal | Is there a specific one that you can recomend we research superfly ? | 06:17 |
| mazal | The dynamic dns service I mean | 06:17 |
| Kilos | http://www.techrepublic.com/downloads/setting-up-a-dynamic-dns- | 06:26 |
| Kilos | or you can watch a video | 06:27 |
| Kilos | http://howto.wired.com/wiki/Set_Up_Dynamic_DNS | 06:27 |
| Kilos | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Np0VeQJwlI0 | 06:27 |
| barrydk | Dankie oom Kilos nog speelgoed | 06:28 |
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| Kilos | hehe | 06:29 |
| Kilos | always try google first them the fly will help you fix it after | 06:29 |
| Kilos | lotsa fun coming with ip addresses | 06:29 |
| barrydk | im bussy on google | 06:30 |
| mazal | We already seen a few that looks interesting. But will research it first | 06:30 |
| * mazal sien barry gaan sy server breek lol | 06:30 | |
| Kilos | lol | 06:30 |
| Kilos | i did a direct cable connection with 2 pcs and no router | 06:31 |
| Kilos | whew what a job thawas | 06:31 |
| Kilos | that was | 06:31 |
| Kilos | mazal, barrydk ons het n afrikaanse kanaal ook #ubuntu-afr | 06:33 |
| Kilos | daar is mense hier wat nie kan volg nie | 06:34 |
| Kilos | hi drussell Hodgestar | 06:35 |
| barrydk | Soory forget when im getting excited and then Mazal fall in the trap. | 06:35 |
| Kilos | lol | 06:37 |
| barrydk | Did you use one pc for a router? | 06:37 |
| mazal | Oom Kilos do you mean you did that dymanic dns with the 2 pc's ? | 06:38 |
| Kilos | i dunno what i did but it worked eventually | 06:38 |
| Kilos | had the guys going for a while | 06:38 |
| Kilos | shared 3g on 2 pcs | 06:38 |
| mazal | We have been wanting our own server that is accessible on internet for a very long time | 06:39 |
| Squirm | morning | 06:40 |
| mazal | Morning Squirm | 06:40 |
| Kilos | hi Squirm | 06:40 |
| barrydk | Hi Squirm | 06:40 |
| Kilos | mazal, you got a spare pc for it? | 06:40 |
| Kilos | superfly, has a P2 as his one server | 06:41 |
| mazal | Kilos no , but barry does. He can be the guinea pig :P | 06:41 |
| Kilos | hahaha | 06:41 |
| mazal | And he has loads more patience than me | 06:42 |
| barrydk | i'm still here | 06:42 |
| mazal | lol | 06:43 |
| Kilos | download ubuntu-server edition | 06:44 |
| Kilos | just check its the 32bit version if the spare pc dont handle 64 bit | 06:45 |
| mazal | We already have that Kilo's. We have 3 ubuntu servers at work | 06:45 |
| Kilos | oh ya i forget . sorry | 06:45 |
| mazal | We built them for our file sharing and mysql databases for registers | 06:45 |
| mazal | That was a battle , but it was fun and learned a ton | 06:47 |
| superfly | I use afraid.org | 06:50 |
| superfly | if you want a permanent server on the internet, use a VPS | 06:51 |
| Kilos | hi jrgns | 07:00 |
| superfly | suddenly all quiet? | 07:01 |
| barrydk | Hey Sfly we can't chat and read google at the same time. You gave us a lot of homework this morning | 07:02 |
| Kilos | lol | 07:03 |
| barrydk | and work in between | 07:04 |
| inetpro | superfly: ok it looks like we are out of luck | 07:09 |
| inetpro | see: http://en.gogloom.com/FreeNode/ubuntu-za/ | 07:09 |
| inetpro | seems they have data for ubuntu-za only up to Feb 2011 | 07:09 |
| inetpro | not sure why they stopped | 07:09 |
| inetpro | and I'm not sure how they collect the data in the first place | 07:11 |
| Kilos | oh my | 07:14 |
| mazal | Does Maaz have logs of the whole year ? | 07:15 |
| inetpro | magespawn: and previous logs of ubuntu-za where logged at http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/ | 07:16 |
| inetpro | sadly that's a dead link now | 07:16 |
| Kilos | inetpro, fix it | 07:19 |
| inetpro | ai | 07:19 |
| Kilos | or recruit peeps that can | 07:19 |
| mazal | inetpro, so you don't have any logs at all ? | 07:20 |
| inetpro | mazal: yes I have in a postgresql database through quassel | 07:21 |
| mazal | Isn't there maybe an app that can compile stats from the logs ? | 07:21 |
| mazal | Way back when I had a channel on govnet I used an app called mircstats to compile stats directly from the logs. Maybe there is something like that for linux ? | 07:22 |
| inetpro | that would probably still work on the logs at irclogs above | 07:23 |
| inetpro | so I guess somebody will have to pull those logs and generate some stats | 07:26 |
| inetpro | but a service used by drubin previously would have been nice and least effort | 07:27 |
| * inetpro is lazy | 07:27 | |
| Kilos | nee man have some coffee inetpro and get going | 07:28 |
| inetpro | Kilos: when I have time I will look into it | 07:28 |
| Kilos | cool ty | 07:28 |
| inetpro | pulling the logs should be very easy with wget or curl | 07:29 |
| inetpro | actually curl would be best suited for that | 07:29 |
| superfly | inetpro: I have my quassel logs... but that'll be a pain to parse | 07:29 |
| inetpro | superfly: exactly | 07:30 |
| inetpro | but I'm wondering, perhaps canonical have automated ways already | 07:30 |
| inetpro | we just need to find out | 07:31 |
| superfly | inetpro: ping me again tonight at around 9, I'll see what I can do | 07:32 |
| inetpro | superfly: thanks | 07:32 |
| inetpro | btw, for those who don't know it, our discussions are logged by ubuntulog_ | 07:33 |
| inetpro | ubuntulog_: you have a tail | 07:33 |
| barrydk | Don't know much about what youre talking about but say if me and Mazal can help with something | 07:33 |
| inetpro | ubuntulog_: help | 07:34 |
| * inetpro just found another service that seems to do these kind of stats, not sure how they do it | 07:49 | |
| inetpro | http://irc.netsplit.de/channels/details.php?room=%23ubuntu-za&net=freenode | 07:49 |
| inetpro | only started now | 07:49 |
| superfly | !ubuntulog_ | 08:01 |
| superfly | !help | 08:01 |
| superfly | it doesn't respond to much | 08:01 |
| inetpro | and that tail has been there for quite a while it seems | 08:03 |
| Kilos | hi Wraz welcome to ubuntu_za | 08:03 |
| Kilos | Plugin defined commands: | 08:06 |
| Kilos | 08:06 | |
| Kilos | UNLOAD LOAD RELOADALL SOURCE TCL | 08:06 |
| Kilos | RELOADALL UNLOADALL PL_RELOAD RELOAD UNLOAD | 08:06 |
| Kilos | LOAD UNLOAD LOAD PY TIMER | 08:06 |
| Kilos | can only get it to reloadall | 08:07 |
| Kilos | Tcl plugin Rehashed | 08:07 |
| Kilos | if you pm ubuntulog_ then type in /help there lotsa commands | 08:09 |
| Kilos | dunno if thats from freenode | 08:09 |
| Kilos | afraid to play with them | 08:12 |
| Kilos | hi magespawn | 08:21 |
| inetpro | Kilos: I'm guessing but that could simply be xchat help | 08:24 |
| charl_ | good morning! | 08:25 |
| charl_ | Maaz: coffee on | 08:25 |
| * Maaz puts the kettle on | 08:25 | |
| barrydk | Superfly : What do you use to chat on your phone? | 08:28 |
| superfly | barrydk: In IRC? Quassel | 08:28 |
| superfly | well, Quassel2Go | 08:28 |
| Kilos | Maaz, coffee please | 08:29 |
| Maaz | Kilos: Alrighty | 08:29 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for charl_ and Kilos! | 08:29 |
| barrydk | Is it a app? | 08:29 |
| Kilos | Maaz, ty | 08:29 |
| Maaz | You are welcome Kilos | 08:29 |
| Kilos | aw inetpro had hopes one of you could use them commands to get the log goodie active | 08:30 |
| superfly | barrydk: I would hope so, how else would it run? | 08:31 |
| barrydk | ok ok | 08:31 |
| barrydk | i only get quasseldroid beta on samsung apps | 08:32 |
| Kilos | barrydk, you can install quassel on ubuntu | 08:33 |
| Kilos | its in the repos | 08:33 |
| barrydk | i use xchat on ubuntu but want something for my phone | 08:34 |
| superfly | barrydk: I'm not using Android | 08:34 |
| * inetpro is happy with quasseldroid but don't use it that often | 08:35 | |
| barrydk | ok i thought you did as i think you said earlyer you were on your phone | 08:35 |
| superfly | inetpro: yeah, I use QuasselDroid on my Kindle, and it works pretty well. | 08:35 |
| superfly | barrydk: I was. | 08:35 |
| superfly | barrydk: my phone doesn't run Android | 08:36 |
| barrydk | ok what do you use then Superfly | 08:36 |
| superfly | an N900 | 08:36 |
| barrydk | ok | 08:36 |
| * superfly wants to see if he can upgrade to Sailfish | 08:36 | |
| superfly | if/when it comes out | 08:37 |
| inetpro | what is sailfish? | 08:37 |
| barrydk | Was also wondering See fishingg boats sand | 08:37 |
| inetpro | hmm... | 08:37 |
| inetpro | Sailfish are two species of fish in the genus Istiophorus, living in warmer sections of all the oceans of the world. | 08:37 |
| superfly | Maaz: google for Jolla Sailfish | 08:38 |
| Maaz | superfly: "Jolla expects Sailfish SDK to reach developers in early Q1 2013" http://www.engadget.com/2012/12/04/jolla-expects-sailfish-sdk-to-reach-developers-in-q1-2013/ :: "Jolla Sailfish OS on GS3 - xda-developers" http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34983792 :: "In Depth Overview of Jolla Sailfish UI | Jolla Users Blog" | 08:38 |
| Maaz | http://www.jollausers.com/2012/11/in-depth-overview-of-jolla-sailfish-ui/ :: "Jolla Confirms It Will Unveil Sailfish M… | 08:38 |
| barrydk | ya thought so Inetpro | 08:38 |
| barrydk | hmmm looks like a total different species | 08:40 |
| Kilos | hi Tonberry timkeller | 09:16 |
| Kilos | lo plustwo | 09:17 |
| Tonberry | o hi | 09:47 |
| inetpro | wb Tonberry | 10:03 |
| * Tonberry knik | 10:03 | |
| inetpro | anyone wanting to get involved in Ubuntu development might find the following to be a useful guide | 10:04 |
| inetpro | http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/ | 10:04 |
| tumbleweed | inetpro: :) | 11:26 |
| inetpro | tumbleweed: you like that? | 11:28 |
| superfly | tumbleweed: looking good | 11:28 |
| tumbleweed | inetpro: yeah, I keep meaning to write some articles for it | 11:29 |
| tumbleweed | (oh, if you're in ZA, you might find the bzr based workflows too bandwidth intensive and slow, for many packages, compared to grabbing the source from a local mirror) | 11:30 |
| tumbleweed | inetpro: if you don't know where to start, I suggest https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/BugFixingInitiative | 11:32 |
| inetpro | tumbleweed: I got that link from Daniel Holbach's message to ubuntu-devel-announce last night | 11:32 |
| tumbleweed | aha, I'm behind on my mail :) | 11:32 |
| mazal | Hi guys , barry is trying to setup quassel on his phone to enter here | 11:54 |
| mazal | But it doesn't want to take irc.ubuntu.com/8001 | 11:54 |
| mazal | Is there a dufferent server and port one must use from a phone ? | 11:54 |
| tumbleweed | the traditional IRC port is 6667, not 8001 | 11:55 |
| tumbleweed | but apparently freenode listens on 6665, 6666, 6667, 6697 (SSL only), 7000 (SSL only), 7070 (SSL only), 8000, 8001 and 8002 | 11:55 |
| mazal | It keeps telling him "connection information not filled out properly" | 11:56 |
| mazal | This is on quassal | 11:56 |
| mazal | We enter the server and the port and the username | 11:57 |
| Kilos | jedirc | 11:57 |
| mazal | Tried both ports 8001 and 6667 | 11:57 |
| Kilos | mazal, just try jedirc and if it works then go baǩ and try sort quassel | 11:58 |
| tumbleweed | check the other settings? | 11:58 |
| tumbleweed | e.g. nicknameetc. | 11:58 |
| Kilos | oh my sorry tumbleweed | 11:59 |
| mazal | There is no other settings | 11:59 |
| mazal | Servername , port and username | 11:59 |
| tumbleweed | you sure your phone is online? :) | 12:00 |
| tumbleweed | sttill, that's an odd error for a conneciton failure | 12:00 |
| mazal | Ye he's getting email and fb | 12:01 |
| superfly | mazal: quassel is not a traditional IRC client | 12:01 |
| tumbleweed | oh, quassel. are you not supposed to point it at a quassel server? | 12:01 |
| superfly | mazal: QuasselDroid connects to your Quassel server | 12:01 |
| mazal | Ho we gonna find that adres ? | 12:02 |
| mazal | how even | 12:02 |
| superfly | mazal: you run your server | 12:02 |
| mazal | Run your own server ? | 12:03 |
| superfly | mazal: yes, you run your own Quassel server | 12:03 |
| mazal | Makes no sense | 12:03 |
| superfly | It makes perfect sense, Quassel is not a traditional IRC client | 12:03 |
| mazal | So what must one enter at the server ? | 12:04 |
| superfly | mazal: your Quassel server's details | 12:04 |
| mazal | And where do one find that ? | 12:04 |
| tumbleweed | you need to run one | 12:04 |
| tumbleweed | ideally on a server somewhere | 12:04 |
| superfly | like a VPS | 12:05 |
| mazal | Ie this can't be done | 12:05 |
| mazal | So what other way can one enter here from phone ? | 12:05 |
| mazal | webchat ? | 12:05 |
| tumbleweed | or any other IRC client for your phone | 12:05 |
| superfly | mazal: I think magespawn_ has messed with a few Android IRC clients | 12:05 |
| tumbleweed | quasseldroid isn't actually an IRC client, it talks to the quassel server, which is the IRC client | 12:05 |
| mazal | Ah ok , didn't know that | 12:06 |
| superfly | yeah, QuasselDroid is a Quassel client :-) | 12:06 |
| tumbleweed | the advantage of it is that you can seamlessly move between your machines, appearing on IRC as one person | 12:06 |
| superfly | Hence why I can chat from my phone, my tablet AND my PC, and never leave the room :-) | 12:07 |
| mazal | Will ask magespawn_ when he's around what client he could suggest | 12:07 |
| superfly | s/room/channel/ | 12:07 |
| superfly | Maaz: google for Android IRC client | 12:07 |
| Maaz | superfly: "Yet Another Android IRC Client - Yaaic" http://www.yaaic.org/ :: "AndroIRC - Android Apps on Google Play" https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.androirc&hl=en :: "AndChat.net - IRC Client for Android" http://www.andchat.net/ :: "AndroIRC - The best IRC client for Android your device need" http://www.androirc.com/ :: "Android IRC clients « | 12:07 |
| Maaz | Brad's blog" http://blog.lassey.us/2010/06/25/android-irc-clients/ :: "The Best IRC Clients… | 12:07 |
| mazal | This is a Samsung S2 | 12:07 |
| superfly | Those would be the 3 I have heard of the most | 12:07 |
| mazal | Ok thanx will look into those | 12:08 |
| barrydk | maaz google for android irc client | 12:12 |
| Maaz | barrydk: "Yet Another Android IRC Client - Yaaic" http://www.yaaic.org/ :: "AndroIRC - Android Apps on Google Play" https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.androirc&hl=en :: "AndChat.net - IRC Client for Android" http://www.andchat.net/ :: "AndroIRC - The best IRC client for Android your device need" http://www.androirc.com/ :: "Android IRC clients « | 12:12 |
| Maaz | Brad's blog" http://blog.lassey.us/2010/06/25/android-irc-clients/ :: "The Best IRC Clients … | 12:12 |
| Superhuman | If you have quassel core, you can use the android version. | 12:14 |
| superfly | Superhuman: yeah, we were just talking about that :-) | 12:24 |
| Superhuman | Jip, I saw afterwards. Quassel is the best thing to come to irc world, and it makes sense to use. | 12:25 |
| Superhuman | One thing it does need, is a Quassel provider. Some company that provides you a quassel core connection, for X amount a month. | 12:27 |
| superfly | Superhuman: I think there might be such a thing, but I haven't looked recently | 12:32 |
| superfly | just thought I saw it in the Quassel channel a couple of months ago | 12:32 |
| Kilos | wbb | 12:33 |
| superfly | A quick duckduckgo found this: http://woboq.com/quassel.html | 12:33 |
| superfly | even iQuassel, wow... https://itunes.apple.com/app/iquassel/id566844252 | 12:35 |
| mazal | We were busy fiddling with simpleirc , but then work intruded | 12:44 |
| mazal | Looks like iy will work though | 12:44 |
| mazal | it even | 12:44 |
| mazal | Bye for now everyone | 12:45 |
| inetpro | kilos has another power failure or in saving mode again? | 13:02 |
| magespawn_ | afternoon all | 13:22 |
| === magespawn_ is now known as magespawn | ||
| superfly | hi magespawn | 13:29 |
| magespawn | hey superfly | 13:36 |
| drubin | inetpro: please ping me about the meeting tomorrow. | 13:41 |
| drubin | or email a reminder and I will deff come and show my suppoer | 13:41 |
| inetpro | drubin: what meeting? | 13:41 |
| magespawn | reapproval | 13:42 |
| inetpro | drubin: the re-approval is on Tuesday, 18 December 2012 at 22:00 SAST | 13:42 |
| inetpro | good to hear that you are still around, thanks drubin | 13:43 |
| inetpro | s/hear/see/ | 13:43 |
| drubin | inetpro: Ya just busy and I forget but I am around. | 13:58 |
| drubin | I don't irc that much any more | 13:58 |
| Kilos | so who is Wraz ? | 14:17 |
| Symmetria | lol | 14:21 |
| Symmetria | dammit | 14:21 |
| Symmetria | been phoning around trying to buy a certain fiber cable in this country | 14:21 |
| Symmetria | the fiber guys in this country have never heard of such | 14:21 |
| Kilos | that sucks | 14:21 |
| Kilos | long wait from overseas | 14:22 |
| Symmetria | heh, its interesting, this particular cable uses 12 fiber strands | 14:22 |
| Symmetria | ooops 10 sorry | 14:22 |
| Symmetria | into a single connector on each side | 14:22 |
| henkj | Symmetria: who did you try? | 14:22 |
| Symmetria | and requires a form of multimode fiber thats VERY rare | 14:22 |
| Symmetria | (whats called OM4 MMF) | 14:22 |
| Symmetria | henk, falcon was my first try | 14:22 |
| Symmetria | then a coupla other random places I had heard about | 14:22 |
| Symmetria | but I suspected I might have this problem, there is only one type of equipment that uses that fiber and I think Im probably the first person in the country to actually even think about using it | 14:23 |
| Symmetria | (that fiber is *specifically* used for 100gig -> 100gig | 14:23 |
| henkj | then there's not much chance of there being stock, even if people know about it | 14:24 |
| Kilos | hey mazal you guys winning? | 14:25 |
| mazal | I dunno , will see if barry tries it | 14:26 |
| mazal | But he so busy on the farm after hours that he doesn't have much time for pc things | 14:26 |
| Kilos | what do you do on a farm at night | 14:34 |
| Symmetria | henkj heh is gonna be pretty cool though turning that stuff up | 14:34 |
| Kilos | apart from watch tv | 14:34 |
| Symmetria | I've never attempted to turn up a single 200G LAG on anything | 14:35 |
| henkj | LAG? | 14:35 |
| Symmetria | aggregation group | 14:35 |
| Symmetria | basically, take 2 x 100gig links | 14:35 |
| Symmetria | and bundle them together | 14:35 |
| Symmetria | basically what we're doing, is taking 2 high powered routers | 14:36 |
| Symmetria | putting 2 100gig links between them | 14:36 |
| Symmetria | bundling the 100gig links into a single channel | 14:36 |
| Symmetria | and then running a virtual chassis shared control plane over it | 14:36 |
| Symmetria | so you end up with a single virtual router | 14:36 |
| Symmetria | with a sick high speed link between them | 14:36 |
| Symmetria | then you take a switch with 2 x 10gig links coming out of it, plug a single 10gig into each chassis, and run whats called LACP over them, to bundle those | 14:37 |
| Symmetria | so you end up with 20gig from each switch into the virtual router | 14:37 |
| Symmetria | if you lose an entire chassis, it drops to a 10gig uplink to the switch, but nothing goes down | 14:37 |
| Symmetria | so there is total redundancy | 14:37 |
| Symmetria | (this is the system we're aiming to implement at one of the .za universities for their campus network) | 14:37 |
| Symmetria | pricey, but kinda sweet | 14:38 |
| henkj | nice | 14:40 |
| henkj | but where does the 200G link go to? | 14:40 |
| Symmetria | its between the two core routers | 14:40 |
| Symmetria | http://www.alstonnetworks.net/core-distribution.png | 14:40 |
| Symmetria | in that picture, those 2 boxes in the virtual chassis | 14:41 |
| Symmetria | have the 200gig link between them | 14:41 |
| henkj | ok, but where are they? | 14:41 |
| Symmetria | in the data center at the university :) | 14:41 |
| inetpro | The future of Ubuntu revealed http://www.techradar.com/news/software/operating-systems/the-future-of-ubuntu-revealed-1114487?goback=.gde_48682_member_192944130 | 15:00 |
| inetpro | 1,600 schools - 50,000 Ubuntu desktops? | 15:01 |
| inetpro | in South Africa!? | 15:01 |
| * inetpro wonders | 15:01 | |
| Kilos | dont sit and wonder go home | 15:14 |
| inetpro | Kilos: ahh, ok | 15:21 |
| * magespawn is going to be working late, making dvd of fish's school concert | 15:23 | |
| Kilos | lol we here if you lonely magespawn | 15:31 |
| magespawn | ty Kilos | 15:55 |
| magespawn | trying to get to grips with this video capture program | 15:56 |
| Kilos | enjoy | 15:56 |
| magespawn | finally choose the right settings that does notmcause it to drop like 150 frames a second | 15:58 |
| Kilos | what, you trying to make lotsa bits and pieces into one movie? | 16:00 |
| magespawn | no one movie from video camera on to hard drive | 16:01 |
| Kilos | oh isnt thateasy? | 16:01 |
| Kilos | lotsa camera stuff in repos | 16:01 |
| magespawn | not when the capture program drops frames for some reason | 16:02 |
| magespawn | other os | 16:02 |
| Kilos | ai | 16:02 |
| magespawn | could not get ubuntu to see the capture device | 16:03 |
| Kilos | ai you missing some app thats does it | 16:05 |
| magespawn | mm maybe or some setting but anyway seems to be working now | 16:06 |
| mazal | Did capturing way back , not an easy task | 16:09 |
| mazal | Now I just do dvd to mp4 and some very small editing | 16:09 |
| mazal | My biggest battle was to find a capture device that keeps the video and audio in sync | 16:14 |
| magespawn | this one seems to drop a lot of frames | 16:14 |
| magespawn | maybe the pc is not fast enough | 16:15 |
| mazal | cpu ? | 16:15 |
| mazal | Speed of cpu I mean | 16:16 |
| magespawn | actually not sure | 16:16 |
| magespawn | lol | 16:16 |
| magespawn | i forget | 16:16 |
| magespawn | not about to look now will look when first full length capture is done | 16:17 |
| mazal | I found the best to be external capture device that does all the work. The internal ones all failed. On an external the pc actually just do the saving | 16:19 |
| inetpro | Kilos: you are way to quiet today | 16:27 |
| inetpro | you in saving mode or what? | 16:28 |
| Kilos | ya head not happy inetpro | 16:28 |
| inetpro | ai | 16:28 |
| inetpro | sorry oom | 16:28 |
| Kilos | np ill survive | 16:28 |
| charl_ | sorry to hear Kilos, feel better soon! :( | 16:29 |
| Kilos | thanks for the concern | 16:29 |
| Kilos | ty charl_ | 16:29 |
| inetpro | the weather? | 16:30 |
| Kilos | inetpro, ? | 16:42 |
| Kilos | rather wrm tonight | 16:42 |
| Kilos | warm | 16:42 |
| inetpro | Kilos: I thought perhaps is the weather that is messing with the head? | 16:42 |
| inetpro | this constant shift between cold and hot | 16:43 |
| Kilos | oh no its digging up dubbeltjies and pulling other weeds round the house | 16:43 |
| inetpro | ahh | 16:43 |
| Kilos | hi timkeller | 16:43 |
| magespawn | Kilos have a break have a kit kat | 16:44 |
| Kilos | lol | 16:45 |
| magespawn | i am off chat later | 16:55 |
| Kilos | toods magespawn | 17:00 |
| Kilos | i go eat guys | 17:02 |
| Kilos | bbnn | 17:02 |
| inetpro | lekker eet oom | 17:02 |
| * inetpro bbl also | 17:02 | |
| Kilos | ty | 17:04 |
| Vince-0 | Gaai | 17:58 |
| Vince-0 | Hi I mean | 17:58 |
| smile | hi :) | 18:16 |
| Vince-0 | stupid headsets too complicated | 18:18 |
| inetpro | good evening smile | 18:28 |
| smile | good evening :) | 18:29 |
| smile | exam tomorrow :o | 18:29 |
| inetpro | smile: yikes! | 18:29 |
| inetpro | what are you writing? | 18:29 |
| smile | whut? :o | 18:29 |
| inetpro | smile: what exam? | 18:30 |
| inetpro | smile: what exam are you writing tomorrow? | 18:30 |
| smile | oh, I'm not writing it :) | 18:30 |
| smile | it's an oral exam :p | 18:30 |
| inetpro | ah | 18:31 |
| smile | I need to say the answers :P | 18:31 |
| smile | it's about computer networks | 18:31 |
| smile | and how computers co-operate together | 18:31 |
| smile | :p | 18:31 |
| charl_ | an oral exam about computers... that sounds unusual? | 18:31 |
| smile | yeah, but it's actually quite fun :p | 18:31 |
| inetpro | smile: hmm... but you know all those answers to that anyway | 18:31 |
| smile | I know every detail, so, he can ask me everything :p | 18:32 |
| * inetpro also finds oral exam out of the ordinary | 18:33 | |
| charl_ | smile: is that at a university? | 18:33 |
| inetpro | charl_: he's much younger than you :-) | 18:33 |
| smile | charl_: no, my last year at the school for 12-18 age :) | 18:34 |
| charl_ | smile: ah i see ok, that makes more sense :) | 18:34 |
| charl_ | inetpro: that says nothing, i finished studying years ago anyway :P | 18:34 |
| smile | but it's not easy ;) | 18:34 |
| smile | It's about 300 pages theory :P | 18:35 |
| charl_ | heh wait until you get into university! | 18:35 |
| charl_ | :P | 18:35 |
| inetpro | charl_: hmm... I thought you where like 21 | 18:35 |
| smile | 1000 pages then? o.O | 18:35 |
| charl_ | inetpro: lol no i'm quite a few years older than that ;) | 18:35 |
| inetpro | lol | 18:35 |
| charl_ | smile: thousands :D | 18:35 |
| smile | charl_: then I won't learn every detail anymore :P | 18:36 |
| charl_ | well you get so much documentation and references these days, knowing every detail is both impossible and unnecessary | 18:36 |
| smile | but I want to know everything of it :) | 18:37 |
| charl_ | it's always good to try/! | 18:37 |
| inetpro | superfly: ping | 18:39 |
| inetpro | superfly: it's almost 21:00 when you need to focus on stats | 18:40 |
| smile | yeaah, charl_ :) how are you? | 18:40 |
| charl_ | smile: i'm good! today a decent bit of snow here | 18:41 |
| charl_ | has it snowed in your area yet? | 18:41 |
| Vince-0 | snoow nice - | 18:41 |
| smile | charl_: yes, but not so much :P much more snow (10cm) is expected tomorrow :P | 18:42 |
| charl_ | yes here too | 18:42 |
| smile | It will disarrange the traffic :P | 18:42 |
| charl_ | in between 10cm and 20cm | 18:43 |
| Kilos | hi Narf23 | 18:46 |
| Kilos | hi charl_ smile inetpro | 18:46 |
| Kilos | hi ludo | 18:46 |
| smile | hi oom Kilos :p | 18:46 |
| Kilos | oh hi Vince-0 | 18:47 |
| smile | charl_: do you need to go out tomorrow? :p | 18:47 |
| Vince-0 | lol no mic on any of my devices | 18:48 |
| Vince-0 | hii\ | 18:48 |
| Kilos | wassup the mic Vince-0 ? | 18:49 |
| Narf23 | poor Vince - 1st PC now Tablet :P | 18:49 |
| superfly | inetpro: OK, just switching on my computer | 18:49 |
| Narf23 | No mic in Google hang out.. | 18:49 |
| Kilos | ah Narf23 you one of the lug guys? | 18:50 |
| Narf23 | Yea - 1st time in ubuntu_za IRC | 18:50 |
| Kilos | welcome to ubuntu-za | 18:50 |
| inetpro | superfly: get the kiddies sorted before you start | 18:50 |
| Kilos | hehe inetpro you too cheeky | 18:51 |
| inetpro | Narf23: welcome to #ubuntu-za | 18:51 |
| Narf23 | ty | 18:51 |
| Kilos | Narf23, tell us a bit about yourself | 18:52 |
| superfly | inetpro: *just* have | 18:52 |
| inetpro | cool | 18:52 |
| inetpro | superfly: so where do we start? | 18:53 |
| Narf23 | I'm a M$ techi starting to get into a little of Linux | 18:53 |
| inetpro | perhaps easiest if you can provide stats for the website | 18:53 |
| Narf23 | Just received my Pi and about to start playing | 18:53 |
| charl_ | smile: yeah i need to go to work, but the roads are salted so i don't worry too much to go on the bicycle | 18:54 |
| Kilos | ah | 18:54 |
| smile | okay :p maybe your fingers freeze :o | 18:54 |
| charl_ | hi Kilos | 18:54 |
| smile | Narf23: good w ork ;) | 18:54 |
| smile | I ordered mine too :) | 18:54 |
| superfly | inetpro: I have no idea where to get those | 18:55 |
| charl_ | smile: yeah i always have that problem, that's why i wear gloves now | 18:55 |
| smile | :) | 18:55 |
| charl_ | smile: actually biking with gloves is quite nice, my head doesn't get cold too quickly, just my fingers | 18:55 |
| inetpro | smile: last time I think you had google stats | 18:55 |
| superfly | inetpro: ah, true, I can look at that | 18:55 |
| inetpro | superfly: http://saturnlaboratories.co.za/files/ubuntu-za_visitors.png | 18:56 |
| smile | charl_: I was supercooled one day, and I just felt onto the ground :p | 18:57 |
| smile | inetpro: google stats for? :) | 18:57 |
| inetpro | oops, was I just talking to smile? | 18:58 |
| charl_ | smile: oh my goodness, that's not good | 18:58 |
| inetpro | sorry smile, I meant to talk to the fly | 18:58 |
| inetpro | tab completion fail | 18:58 |
| smile | inetpro: yea :o | 18:59 |
| inetpro | wb Vince-0 | 18:59 |
| smile | charl_: It was under freezing temperature outside, I spent too much time outside and my body decided to go in sleep mode :P | 19:00 |
| Vince-0 | oh herrow | 19:00 |
| mazal | Sleep well all | 19:00 |
| smile | good night, mazal | 19:00 |
| superfly | inetpro: we don't use the website much, and you can tell by looking at the stats | 19:00 |
| Vince-0 | so hows this: pc: webcam, 2 sound cards, two headsets + tablet + phone: wifi + 3g and no voice on my mic | 19:00 |
| magespawn | evening all | 19:00 |
| Kilos | night maz | 19:00 |
| Kilos | hey magespawn | 19:01 |
| inetpro | superfly: I guess we have to face the reality and work on that | 19:01 |
| charl_ | smile: wow ok, that's scary :S be careful! | 19:01 |
| inetpro | or accept it as is | 19:01 |
| magespawn | what website superfly? | 19:02 |
| superfly | inetpro: the "reality" is that our presense is the mailing list and IRC | 19:02 |
| inetpro | there's more than enough info all over the place | 19:02 |
| superfly | and the website really isn't used for much | 19:02 |
| inetpro | superfly: it still is an important site to keep | 19:02 |
| inetpro | many a new linux user starts his journey at http://ubuntu-za.org/ | 19:03 |
| superfly | inetpro: so maybe we need to re-analyse what our site should be doing | 19:04 |
| smile | charl_: I will :) | 19:05 |
| inetpro | superfly: I agree, it's worth looking at that | 19:05 |
| smile | After one day I was happy again! :P | 19:05 |
| magespawn | Vince-0: where is the hang-out again? | 19:05 |
| smile | and for me no school that day :) | 19:05 |
| inetpro | superfly: as I mentioned late last night, I would love to see more South Africans getting involved in Ubuntu development | 19:06 |
| superfly | inetpro: I agree, but where are they going to hear about Ubuntu? | 19:07 |
| magespawn | i made some progress on the idea of t-shirts | 19:07 |
| inetpro | our website should point back to the places where things happen | 19:07 |
| inetpro | where things really happen* | 19:07 |
| superfly | Maybe we should make it a static site? just 2 or 3 HTML pages? | 19:07 |
| * inetpro could live with that | 19:08 | |
| Kilos | magespawn, you musta missed it | 19:08 |
| inetpro | superfly: it would make your life much easier | 19:08 |
| Kilos | we short of lotsa stats | 19:08 |
| inetpro | superfly: but at the same time, it could make it difficult for others to update | 19:09 |
| superfly | inetpro: it should be small enough that it doesn't need updating ;-) | 19:10 |
| magespawn | thinks so Kilos | 19:10 |
| inetpro | superfly: ok, how about we put that up for a vote in our next meeting? | 19:10 |
| inetpro | obviously anyone can jump into the discussion at any point before the meeting | 19:11 |
| Kilos | inetpro, member charl_ offered to sort the site | 19:12 |
| Kilos | or help anyway | 19:12 |
| superfly | inetpro: OK | 19:12 |
| superfly | inetpro: site statistics updated | 19:12 |
| inetpro | superfly: where did you post that? | 19:14 |
| superfly | inetpro: on the reapproval page | 19:14 |
| inetpro | hmm... | 19:14 |
| * inetpro doing yet another forced refresh | 19:15 | |
| Vince-0 | goowsh | 19:15 |
| inetpro | superfly: nothing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/ReApprovalApplication2012#Website_Traffic | 19:15 |
| superfly | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/ReApprovalApplication2012#Website | 19:16 |
| inetpro | ahh :-) | 19:16 |
| inetpro | maybe we should move that down to stats? | 19:17 |
| Kilos | theres lotsa ubuntu hours not mentioned | 19:17 |
| Kilos | neil should have the info on last few | 19:18 |
| inetpro | Kilos: we don't really have to mention them all | 19:18 |
| inetpro | just that they did happen and then some stuff to make the report look nice | 19:18 |
| Kilos | looks like we had nothing since 2011 | 19:18 |
| inetpro | oh and maybe some references to reports | 19:19 |
| inetpro | obviously the more info the better, but often less is more | 19:20 |
| Kilos | no here man | 19:20 |
| Kilos | we cant lose this reapp thing | 19:21 |
| inetpro | Kilos: haha | 19:21 |
| Kilos | someone should take maia a case of redbull | 19:21 |
| inetpro | like that will really happen!? | 19:21 |
| inetpro | we have some big guns coming from #ubuntu-za | 19:22 |
| inetpro | but we need to work on getting more :-) | 19:22 |
| Kilos | ya but they need bullets | 19:22 |
| inetpro | lol | 19:23 |
| Kilos | rope drussell in too | 19:23 |
| magespawn | looks like some of the ubuntu hour dates got mixed around | 19:23 |
| inetpro | eish! | 19:23 |
| drussell | hehehe | 19:23 |
| * drussell hides | 19:23 | |
| inetpro | magespawn: we can't let that happen | 19:23 |
| Kilos | hi deegee | 19:23 |
| inetpro | magespawn: please fix what you see that is wrong | 19:23 |
| inetpro | drussell: wb | 19:24 |
| magespawn | will do | 19:24 |
| inetpro | how are you doing? | 19:24 |
| drussell | inetpro: :o) | 19:24 |
| drussell | inetpro: surviving! | 19:24 |
| magespawn | i will have a good look tomorrow on a tablet at the moment | 19:24 |
| superfly | inetpro: OK, pulling nick stats on #ubuntu-za | 19:24 |
| inetpro | drussell: don't forget to breathe | 19:24 |
| superfly | oh, whoops, just realised that's for all time... | 19:24 |
| magespawn | that will be interesting | 19:24 |
| magespawn | what about highvoltage? he was in here a bit too | 19:25 |
| Kilos | breathing is good for the health | 19:25 |
| inetpro | magespawn: for sure | 19:25 |
| drussell | inetpro: heh, yeah, life without breathing is very short :o) | 19:25 |
| magespawn | it is also what causes you to die | 19:26 |
| inetpro | Kilos: seems charl_ has run away now that you mentioned him | 19:26 |
| Kilos | charl_, ping | 19:26 |
| Kilos | grrr | 19:27 |
| Kilos | watching idiot box or something | 19:27 |
| inetpro | Kilos: don't worry he'll jump in when he has the time | 19:27 |
| inetpro | any other suggestions for the report, anyone!? | 19:28 |
| Kilos | tumbleweed, any ideas? | 19:29 |
| Kilos | lo ludo | 19:30 |
| inetpro | drussell: good to see that there's still signs of life on that side | 19:31 |
| inetpro | you should show more of yourself in here | 19:31 |
| Kilos | he does man | 19:31 |
| Kilos | every day or so | 19:31 |
| Kilos | just likes to lurk | 19:31 |
| inetpro | Kilos: hmm... so maybe it's me? | 19:31 |
| Kilos | lol | 19:31 |
| superfly | inetpro: for reference: select sender.sender, count(backlog.senderid) as active from backlog join sender on sender.senderid = backlog.senderid where bufferid = 17 and time > '2010-12-01 00:00:00' group by sender.sender, backlog.senderid order by active desc; | 19:32 |
| Kilos | ya you lurk till your nick is mentioned or you can jump on me | 19:32 |
| smile | byee :p | 19:32 |
| * Kilos ducks | 19:32 | |
| Kilos | toods smile | 19:32 |
| smile | good night :p | 19:32 |
| inetpro | superfly: nice | 19:32 |
| smile | see ya :) | 19:32 |
| inetpro | superfly: you should blog that when you have time | 19:33 |
| drussell | magespawn: one of many things that can cause death :oD | 19:35 |
| Kilos | lol | 19:36 |
| inetpro | meanwhile it will be interesting to see the following graph over time | 19:40 |
| inetpro | http://irc.netsplit.de/channels/details.php?room=%23ubuntu-za&net=freenode | 19:40 |
| inetpro | Maaz: coffee on | 19:43 |
| * Maaz puts the kettle on | 19:43 | |
| Kilos | good idea | 19:43 |
| Kilos | Maaz, coffee please | 19:43 |
| Maaz | Kilos: Okay | 19:43 |
| Kilos | Maaz, large | 19:43 |
| Maaz | In a beer mug just for you Kilos | 19:43 |
| magespawn | Maaz coffee please | 19:45 |
| Maaz | magespawn: Alrighty | 19:45 |
| magespawn | Maaz ty | 19:45 |
| Maaz | You are welcome magespawn | 19:45 |
| Kilos | hehe you check ludo | 19:45 |
| Kilos | i greeet daily with no reaction then when i skip a day he wants to know why | 19:46 |
| Kilos | hahaha | 19:46 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for inetpro, Kilos and magespawn! | 19:47 |
| Kilos | Maaz, danke | 19:47 |
| Maaz | Bitteschön | 19:47 |
| inetpro | Maaz: dankie | 19:47 |
| Maaz | Groot plesier inetpro my vriend | 19:47 |
| magespawn | Maaz botsnack | 19:50 |
| Maaz | What do you want magespawn Trying to butter me up or something? | 19:50 |
| magespawn | Maaz for you the world is not enough | 19:50 |
| Maaz | magespawn: I'll remember that | 19:50 |
| inetpro | Maaz: for you the world | 19:51 |
| Maaz | inetpro: for you the world is not enough | 19:51 |
| inetpro | Maaz: forget last factoid | 19:52 |
| Maaz | inetpro: I didn't know about last factoid anyway | 19:52 |
| magespawn | lol | 19:52 |
| magespawn | did not mean to teach him that | 19:52 |
| Kilos | lol | 19:52 |
| Kilos | i dont even get time to play with my bot anymore | 19:53 |
| Kilos | sigh | 19:53 |
| Kilos | night inetpro magespawn superfly and others | 20:01 |
| Kilos | sleep tight | 20:01 |
| magespawn | night Kilos | 20:01 |
| inetpro | superfly: eish! That sender column has way to many records | 20:23 |
| superfly | inetpro: I know | 20:23 |
| superfly | I did a few things, and I still have to filter it down | 20:23 |
| inetpro | wonder why they didn't simply have a nick column | 20:24 |
| magespawn | good night | 20:43 |
| inetpro | magespawn: gaan slaap | 21:59 |
| inetpro | fp | 22:00 |
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