[00:00] <root> list
[00:00] <lwizardl> what would be the best option to setup a vmserver and allow the VM OSes to autorun set scripts on a timed basis
[00:01] <Argure> use kvm and set crons on each of the vm..?
[00:02] <kriskropd> lwizardl: I have an old machine running ubuntu server and virtual box, I have it run two virtual machines on startup, but you can scehdule anything with cron
[00:02] <zykotick9> lwizardl: look into virt-manager (for 1st part) and cron (for 2nd)
[00:02] <ejv> sin_tax: initrd.img and vmlinuz are both symlinks to specific files; recreate the symlinks yourself and point them to the backup kernels / initramfs's you have in /boot; you probably have a couple old ones lying about
[00:03] <lwizardl> well what I was thinking about is to have one central machine setup to house say 2 windows installed vm's, and then have both the windows vm use use a shared directory from the host vm as storage for the file storage. One of the windows machines would be used to automatically download my Kindle PC books and then using calibre to convert them into standard epubs
[00:03] <lwizardl> zykotick9, thanks going to google now
[00:04] <lwizardl> kriskropd, so just about any system should be fine for lite duty then
[00:04] <sin_tax> ejv, looks like the .old files were deleted as well... I accidentally added a space when cleaning up my / directory from a bunch of garbage files created by a script I was working on so it blew away all the files there
[00:05] <kriskropd> lwizardl: i guess? the machine im using is a dell dimension 8251, I think, and the two vms it runs are headless linux vms - anything with x server is going to need some proper vm powering I think
[00:06] <ejv> sin_tax: in that case, try a "sudo apt-get install linux-image3.blah.foo.bar.image.you.purged"
[00:06] <aartist> How I can see all processes, and kill some of them, when ubuntu starts?
[00:06] <ikonia> ps -ef
[00:06] <ejv> top is nice
[00:06] <zykotick9> ps aux ;)
[00:06] <jrib> aartist: why not just not start the processes at all?
[00:07] <aartist> ikonia:  like to see, which processes run when ubuntu starts.., I have to wait a long time before I login.
[00:07] <ikonia> aartist: turn off the splash screen and watch them start then
[00:07] <aartist> ikonia: how I can do that?
[00:07] <kriskropd> ikonia: maybe you want daemons.services? 'chkconfig --list'
[00:07] <rathbone1200cc> join #riak
[00:07] <sin_tax> ejv, how can I determine which image I am using? I am running 12.04 x64 server edition
[00:07] <lwizardl> kriskropd, well I have a few spare 2.2ghz dual core machines I think that I could use. the machines have about 3gb of ram and i think like a 250gb hdd in them
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> aartist: why not just make them not start?
[00:08] <kriskropd> aartist: look at my last post, i meant to direct that towards you
[00:08] <ejv> sin_tax: try: 3.2.0-34-generic
[00:08] <ejv> sin_tax: uname -ra
[00:08] <zykotick9> kriskropd: chkconfig might not be the greatest suggestion in modern ubuntu releases
[00:09] <sin_tax> ejv what do you mean by uname -ra ?
[00:09] <ejv> sin_tax: it's a command you type, that prints system information
[00:09] <ikonia> kriskropd: I don't want that
[00:09] <aartist> kriskropd: thanks.. I have to install chkconfig ..
[00:09] <ikonia> that won't help
[00:09] <sin_tax> oh thanks ejv it is 3.2.0-34-generic
[00:10] <aartist> ikonia: what is your solution?
[00:10] <kriskropd> lwizardl: in my experience with non-virtualization cpus, you just have to benchmark it yourself
[00:10] <ejv> someone in the market for a virt cpu? those new opterons look quite nice and affordable
[00:10] <kriskropd> ikonia: i dont understand why chkconfig is devalued, but i was mostly suggesting it to "see" what "programs" were occuring on start up
[00:11] <zykotick9> kriskropd: "service --status-all" might be a little more up-to-date
[00:12] <zykotick9> kriskropd: ubuntu doesn't use init.d, but upstart for most services.  chkconfig is an init.d thing.
[00:12] <aartist> kriskropd: I found 43 'on' sevice with chkconfig  ... is that the right option ?  and How I can turn them off? ( Not all of them though)
[00:13] <kriskropd> aartist: you certainly don't want to turn off all the daemons you have running, you just need to determine which ones you don't need to have running at startup that make your computer boot up slow
[00:13] <kriskropd> aartist: also, refer to zykotick9 posts about using service instead, apparently chkconfig isn't used as popularly in ubuntu
[00:14] <blackshirt> chkconfig commonly was in redhat based distro
[00:16] <sin_tax> ejv, I really appreciate the help, I was in panic mode there for a second. Everything seems OK now
[00:17] <aartist> kriskropd: thank you very much.. that was helpful.
[00:18] <kriskropd> aartist: i hope it was, but I do insist checking up on services to do it properly
[00:19] <kriskropd> aartist: 'man service' should give you a start
[00:19] <ikonia> service is not the right tool
[00:19] <ikonia> ubuntu uses upstart, investigate upstart
[00:19] <kriskropd> ikonia: idk wha tis, i never used it
[00:19] <ikonia> kriskropd: if you don't konw....why are you suggesting it
[00:20] <zykotick9> ikonia: that's probably my fault :(  sorry, my bad.
[00:20] <kriskropd> ikonia: because zykotick9 suggested it over chkconfig, which is what i'd been using all this time
[00:20] <ikonia> it's not that service is even right/wrong
[00:20] <ikonia> it's more about that doesn't show you what processes are starting
[00:20] <ikonia> more so with upstart running and finishing parallel jobs
[00:21] <lcabreza> need help on activeidentity not detected on Virtualbox using windows xp . any ideas why?
[00:21] <ejv> sin_tax: np
[00:21] <p0s> after dist-upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10, my aptitude shows the following packages as marked for installation. i didn't do that. whats the reason? should i install them?  http://i.imgur.com/5FJTJ.png
[00:22] <ikonia> p0s: I'd move away from aptitude
[00:22] <zykotick9> p0s: did you actually use dist-upgrade to upgrade?  or are you just incorrectly using dist-upgrade term?
[00:22] <Argure> wait what :o
[00:22] <ikonia> p0s: is this a 64bit system ?
[00:22] <Argure> I just moved BACK to aptitude :(
[00:22] <p0s> ikonia: for which reason? and to which alternative?
[00:22] <ikonia> p0s: it's lack of stable multi-lib support
[00:23] <p0s> zykotick9: i used the kubuntu gui dist-upgrade tool which pops up in the tray
[00:23] <ikonia> hence why I'm asking you if this is s 64bit system
[00:23] <ikonia> as those are 32bit debs
[00:23] <p0s> ikonia: yes amd64
[00:23] <ikonia> ok - I'd look at dumping aptitude then
[00:23] <zykotick9> ikonia: aptitude "should" be fine in 12.10...
[00:23] <p0s> ikonia: only one of those packages has :i386... also, why should there be any 32bit debs on my system anyway?
[00:23] <ikonia> zykotick9: a big "should" there
[00:24] <p0s> ikonia: and what is the prefered alternative to aptitude?
[00:24] <zykotick9> ikonia: ;)
[00:24] <ikonia> p0s: some packages need 32bit compatability
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> ahh shouldland
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> Ah, Shouldland! Where clean-cut kids cruise Shouldland Boulevard and the Shouldland High football team get their optimistic asses kicked by their crosstown rival, Reality Check Tech
[00:25] <ReAzem> just rebooted. Looks like windows can ping by hostname but linux cannot. (same machine).
[00:25] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: literally, loling
[00:26] <p0s> i am glad for your help however if you actually read the list of packages which i provided you will see that only one of them is i386, which doesn't seem to explain the other packages which are marked for installation: http://i.imgur.com/5FJTJ.png
[00:26] <p0s> the packages seem very unrelated to each others
[00:27] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: amaerican dad
[00:30] <ikonia> p0s: look pretty related to me
[00:30] <ikonia> but you'll have to walk the dependencies tool
[00:30] <ikonia> however it may not be worth it for a tool that is known to have problems
[00:30] <p0s> ikonia: i started digging my /var/log/apt/history.log* ... those packages once were automatically installed as dependancies of stuff which i had installed before the dist-upgrade
[00:31] <p0s> ikonia: the /var/log/dist-upgrade/* stuff shows that dist-upgrade removed them for some reason
[00:31] <p0s> ikonia: maybe dist-upgrade figured that it was not possible to update them in-place so it removed them and marked them for later installation?
[00:32] <ikonia> possible
[00:32] <p0s> ikonia: i would still be glad for being told a suitable alternative to aptitude
[00:32] <p0s> ikonia: i been using it for like 10 years :)
[00:33] <[snake]> p0s there is archlinux i forget what their pacman is called tho
[00:33] <p0s> ikonia: i would be okay with a GUI tool for as long as it show stuff such as dependancies instead of hiding them and only showing fancy colored "apps"
[00:33] <blackshirt> is there pacman in ubuntu
[00:33] <ikonia> synaptic shows dependencies
[00:34] <p0s> [snake]: i'd like to stay with ubuntu :)
[00:34] <ikonia> pacman is not the tool to be using
[00:34] <[snake]> Oh
[00:34] <blackshirt> ikonia, i just want to know ... Like yum,rpm was available in repository
[00:34] <p0s> ikonia: ok... will try it.... and what about headless ubuntu servers, what to use there?
[00:34] <jrib> p0s: if you like aptitude, I would advise using it but being mindful of what it wants to do.  The multi-arch issues are supposed to be fixed in 12.10, but even if not, you would always be able to see what aptitude /wants/ to do before it does it
[00:35] <p0s> jrib: the fact that aptitude shows all changes before applying them is especially what i like about it. i review them carefully
[00:37] <wasabi> Okay. Two days spent trying to get this broadcom wifi working. Sigh.
[00:38] <[snake]> wasabi is jockey-gtk not getting the drivers for it?
[00:38] <wasabi> It is. They don't work.
[00:38] <Mikicacarica> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://fcasroma.blogspot.com/ <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
[00:39] <[snake]> wasabi maybw you accidentally hit the wifi toggle button on your keyboard
[00:39] <ikonia> thanks james_
[00:39] <ikonia> jrib: even
[00:39] <wasabi> No such key. It's a macbook air.
[00:40] <[snake]> Oh
[00:40] <totemuegerli> hello humans
[00:40] <totemuegerli> im afraid updateing my operating system
[00:40] <ikonia> then don't
[00:40] <jrib> wasabi: you tried just using the additional drivers tool?  It should offer the STA driver to you.  That's what I do on my macbook
[00:41] <Kagnito> *New to IRC* How come every IRC channel I join, is mostly silent
[00:41] <wasabi> Tried em all.
[00:41] <wasabi> As I mentioned, jockey installed and enabled the STA drivers just fine.
[00:42] <wasabi> They list no networks (there are networks, lots). wl doesn't list any networks either,
[00:42] <totemuegerli> my fstab has a root on subvol
[00:42] <[snake]> wasabi maybe google can help: macbook air ubuntu 12.x wifi
[00:42] <jrib> wasabi: you rebooted after STA was installed?
[00:42] <wasabi> Have. Guys. I just said I've spent three days on this. :)
[00:42] <totemuegerli> UUID=ganja-5f1f-4380-8a72-b30b615aff5b /               btrfs   relatime,defaults,discard,ssd,subvol=@ 0       1
[00:42] <[snake]> Oh
[00:43] <totemuegerli> UUID=ganja-b3e2-476f-9961-7e2d435ff357 /boot           ext2    relatime,defaults        0       2
[00:43] <totemuegerli> so its possible to update without the updater changes anything in my fstab?
[00:44] <jrib> totemuegerli: only time I remember my fstab getting touched was when we started using UUID
[00:44] <[snake]> Totem* just backup your fstav and if it messes up teplsce it
[00:44] <[snake]> That message was typing fail
[00:44] <totemuegerli> yeab but those fraggle rock gorgs (grub) change something maybe?
[00:46] <totemuegerli> so /boot is untouched with quantal quatloos?
[00:47] <[snake]> Yes totem
[00:47] <wasabi> Won't scan. iwlist scanning returns invalid argument.
[00:48] <totemuegerli> so update gorg just installs the new 3.5 kernel and nothing else more...
[00:48] <[snake]> Ya
[00:49] <totemuegerli> i will give it a try thanks
[00:49] <[snake]> Np
[00:53] <[snake]> So... i fixed it, but did anyone else's ubuntu randomly switch to chinese?
[00:54] <LynnLea> dr_willis: the link the bot gave is not accessible
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> [snake]: not mine
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> [snake]: I remember you having the issue yesterday
[00:56] <[snake]> Hm... perhaps asians finally successfully gained access to my box with ssh?
[00:56] <ikonia> please stop with this nonsense
[00:56] <[snake]> By asians i mean south korea and china are always sshing me......
[00:57] <Guest869> well... that means your password isn't very secure doesn't it? Why don't you use SSH keys?
[00:57] <[snake]> What are ssh keys?
[00:57] <Guest869> google it
[00:57] <[snake]> Ok
[00:57] <yeats> !ssh | [snake]
[00:58] <alina842> 4tPwd
[00:58] <disputin> I added ip blacklists by country russia, south korea, and china and almost all my ssh attacks stopped
[00:59] <ActionParsnip> !google | Guest869
[00:59] <[snake]> disputin.. hmm ok. I'll try that also.
[01:00] <r_ironfist> good evening!
[01:00] <r_ironfist> how can i change a look of a scroll bar?
[01:01] <blackshirt> good morning
[01:01] <r_ironfist> i wish it would be solid like earlier.
[01:02] <mega1> server 12.04 how can i log everyone out
[01:02] <disputin> snake, something like http://www.ipdeny.com/ipblocks/data/countries/ro.zone  might be helpful
[01:02] <r_ironfist> morning...
[01:02] <totemuegerli> and upgrading with command line howto do that?
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> r_ironfist: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> totemuegerli: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:02] <r_ironfist> eh?
[01:02] <totemuegerli> dist upgrade
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> r_ironfist: run the command in a terminal, what is output?
[01:03] <ActionParsnip> totemuegerli: from which release?
[01:03] <totemuegerli> no clue
[01:03] <ActionParsnip> totemuegerli: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[01:03] <r_ironfist> precise,
[01:03] <totemuegerli> 10.11
[01:03] <totemuegerli> from 10.11 to 14.20
[01:03] <ActionParsnip> r_ironfist: so you want to get rid of the overlay scroll bar and have the old style?
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> totemuegerli: neither of those exist
[01:04] <totemuegerli> sorry 11.10 to 12.10
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> totemuegerli: 14.20 would be released in the 20th month of 2014. Are you from the future :)
[01:04] <totemuegerli> yes im marty mcfly
[01:04] <r_ironfist> ActionParsnip: yes, i would. i'm tired of aiming on a scroll bar to scroll it.
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> totemuegerli: you will need to upgrade to 12.04 in between
[01:05] <Karlo_> I've given up (for now) on trying to get machine X to boot.  My sister was kind enough to give me a replacement machine, Y, on which she's already installed 12.04.1 LTS.  I've just hooked it up, and when I press the power button, it lights up for maybe four seconds and then goes dark again; monitor remains blank.  Is this a known failure mode?  (Dell Dimension 8300; cables cannibalized from machine X.)
[01:05] <totemuegerli> sorry about the typo
[01:05] <ActionParsnip> r_ironfist: http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/03/disable-ubuntu-overlay-scrollbars-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/
[01:05] <totemuegerli> so iu have to enter apt-get upgrade 12.04
[01:05] <ActionParsnip> totemuegerli: run:   sudo do-release-upgrade
[01:06] <nabblet> hi, what's the best way to share a folder from commandline?
[01:06] <Karlo_> nabblet: From what OS to what OS?
[01:06] <totemuegerli> i upgrade over ssh
[01:07] <emx> i see php-errors in my browser. /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini claims display_errors to be off. am i editing the wrong file?
[01:07] <r_ironfist> ActionParsnip: should I relogin?
[01:09] <r_ironfist> ok. how can i enable (or someting needed to do) tiling of windows? Sometimes this feature is useful.
[01:09] <totemuegerli> well the quantum quagga is very similar to schroedinges cat
[01:09] <rsumi_werk> how come thunar's location toolbar is ridiculously big? I double checked to make sure my disability settings weren't on lol
[01:10] <[snake]> rsumi_werk is it a setting in thunar?
[01:11] <ActionParsnip> r_ironfist: if you use compiz then press WinKey + W if memory serves
[01:12] <r_ironfist> ActionParsnip: eh... is compiz included in deafult distribution?
[01:12] <ActionParsnip> r_ironfist: yes, as long as you have 3D accelleration you will be using compiz
[01:13] <totemuegerli> whats better in tersm of stabiltiy xfce or lxde?
[01:13] <[snake]> Xfce imo
[01:14] <totemuegerli> fascinating
[01:14] <jasoN`> totemuegerli: xfce
[01:14] <totemuegerli> i need to remove those 3d crap and install a standard gui
[01:14] <totemuegerli> gnome 3 is just useless for my needs
[01:14] <mikodo> ActionParsnip, can the negative or inverse of CCSM be toggled in Ubuntu 12.10. Don't use it myself, but might if can get the inverse to work right.
[01:15] <mens> I'm tryng to install gimp 2.8 in ubuntu 10.04 lucid from this pre-compiled package
[01:15] <mens> http://ubuntulucidtweaks.blogspot.com/2012/08/gimp-28-on-ubuntu-1004-lucid-lynx.html
[01:15] <mens> Nothing happens after I run *. Sh file
[01:15] <mens> #!/bin/sh
[01:15] <mens> export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/home/$USER/Gimp/Gimp2.8/build/lib:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH
[01:15] <mens> /home/$USER/Gimp/Gimp2.8/build/bin/gimp-2.8
[01:15] <mens> exit 0
[01:15] <FloodBot1> mens: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:16] <almoxarife> mens: that is not nothing, something happened
[01:16] <rsumi_werk> [snake]: I can't find any setting in thunar to make the navigation toolbar smaller or bigger. it sucks
[01:16] <mens> $ - is a variable like in PHP?
[01:17] <rsumi_werk> $ = currency
[01:17] <almoxarife> currency :)
[01:17] <almoxarife> yes, USD
 more detail, please!
[01:18] <Karlo_> mens: The $ symbol, when followed by a name, expands into the value of the variable by that name, in the Unix-based shells.
[01:18] <jackies> Hello
[01:19] <almoxarife> mens: well, someone not the first party (conical) created a script to install something, they need to provide you with further direction
[01:19] <Karlo_> mens: Thus:   foo=hello; echo $foo   and   echo hello   produce the same output.
[01:19] <jackies> Where can i learn how set up eye candy for ubuntu 12.10?
[01:20] <rsumi_werk> depends what you mean by eye candy I suppose
[01:20] <totemuegerli> a candy? like john candy?
[01:20] <jackies> Theams and such as im a noob
[01:20] <almoxarife> jackies: tried google? 'eye candy for ubuntu ........'
[01:21] <nabblet> Karlo_: guess you have mistaken me
[01:21] <jackies> Just set this up and installed the updates
[01:21] <nabblet> hi, what's the best way to share a folder from commandline? samba?
[01:21] <ActionParsnip> mens: why not install gimp 2.8 using PPA?
[01:21] <almoxarife> nabblet: ssh
[01:21] <totemuegerli> is there a sharia compatible ubuntu version available?
[01:21] <ActionParsnip> totemuegerli: if there is, it won't be supported here
[01:21] <almoxarife> totemuegerli: see #ubuntu-sharia
 in ubuntu 10.04 lucid?
[01:22] <jackies> I'll give google a shot i just dont want to mess this up and have to reinstall
[01:22] <rsumi_werk> jackies: idk I like the default theme the most on all desktops. all the modified ones look amateur at best.
[01:22] <Karlo_> nabblet: My own experience is that I have a Windows machine which exports a folder, and a couple of Linux machines that import it, so that they all share it transparently.  Is this information useful to you?  (I do use samba for it, yes.)
[01:22] <ActionParsnip> mens: yes
[01:22] <nabblet> almoxarife: and for sharing to a windows machine?
[01:23] <almoxarife> jackies: you may, you sound adventurous, cant break it, may have to re-install at worse case, enjoy
[01:23] <ActionParsnip> mens: the desktop lucid has less than 6 months support left now
[01:23] <rsumi_werk> jackies: just find a wallpaper my googling "big boobie wallpaper for ubuntu" ie: http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/6111/drunkqc.jpg
[01:23] <almoxarife> nabblet: ssh with sftp
[01:23] <nabblet> Karlo_: ok, thank you
[01:24] <Karlo_> I haven't found a way to do it without involving Windows, btw.
[01:24] <totemuegerli> eek windows
[01:24] <nabblet> almoxarife: that would require setup on the windows computers
[01:24] <jackies> Thank you
 Can you give me a link?
[01:24] <almoxarife> nabblet: it would
[01:24] <rsumi_werk> jackies: np
[01:24] <totemuegerli> i wish those weirdo from wîndows port his entire crap to openbsd or something similar
[01:25] <r_ironfist> where did I ended?
[01:25] <r_ironfist> *did I end?
[01:25] <jackies> Compiz Eyecandy Awesomeness!
 ActionParsnip: eh... is compiz included in deafult distribution?
[01:25] <almoxarife> totemuegerli: we dont say the poopie word, we have underage abouts
[01:25] <r_ironfist> oh yes.
[01:25] <r_ironfist> it seems, no?..
[01:25] <nabblet> almoxarife: ok, thank you
[01:26] <r_ironfist> compiz isn't included?
[01:26] <almoxarife> nabblet: i am not an aficionado of samba, but samba will also work
[01:26] <totemuegerli> What I'm saying might be profane, but it's also profound
[01:26] <almoxarife> !samba
 I installed Ubuntu 12.04, the video card does not work well.
 Fujitsu-Siemens amilo pro v 3505
[01:27] <nabblet> almoxarife: i was just surprised that samba will take 20 MB on my hdd, jsut to share a folder
[01:27] <totemuegerli> so crap is a poopie word.sorry i'm fucked up a little bit because i had a shitty day
[01:27] <nabblet> almoxarife: not that i don't have the 20 MB - i was just wondering if ther is a "slimer" way
[01:27] <ActionParsnip> mens: what video chip do you use?
[01:28] <almoxarife> nabblet: there is , sftp via ssh
[01:28] <totemuegerli> i apologize by the holy man made gods
[01:28] <brady2600> hey guys, i have an application on my downloads folder i would like to run, but its opening in gedit
[01:28] <almoxarife> totemuegerli: i asked nicely, watch your mouth
[01:29] <totemuegerli> yeah i wash my mouth with soap
  Intel Graphics Media Accelerator (GMA) 950 128
[01:29] <nabblet> almoxarife: yeah, but if some1 with a win computer ask me to give him files in a network and i'm like "yeah, go get ssh and sftp"...
  2 GB of RAM
[01:29] <nabblet> almoxarife: i think best way is if that person will share the folder
[01:29] <brady2600> ive right clicked it and set it to allow executing file as program, but still when i run it it opens in gedit
  http://www.notebookcheck.net/Fujitsu-Siemens-Amilo-Pro-V3505.3040.0.html
[01:29] <mickster04> !ohmy | totemuegerli
[01:29] <nabblet> and i will acess it as cliente with write permission
[01:30] <jAguAr`> how do i set up my new Canon MG3122 printer to work?
[01:30] <nabblet> brady2600: maybe you have to make it executable?
[01:30] <almoxarife> nabblet: its not such an evil request, why not? seems like a sane secure way to share
[01:31] <brady2600> nabblet: i have , by right clicking and enabling run as application
[01:31] <nabblet> almoxarife: its in privat lans - and it not that all my opposites are tech-enthusiasts
[01:31] <nabblet> brady2600: what kind of file is it=
[01:31] <nabblet> ?
[01:32] <brady2600> shell script
[01:32] <brady2600> nabblet: shell script
[01:32] <totemuegerli> thank god i'm atheist
[01:32] <nabblet> brady2600: and if you right click you cant get "run" or something like that?
[01:32] <nabblet> brady2600: anyway, you could try to start it from command line
[01:33] <brady2600> nabblet: no
[01:33] <nabblet> almoxarife: is the share function of natilus based on samba?
[01:33] <almoxarife> nabblet: yeap
[01:34] <atlus> I am having troubles with nvidia drivers. I downloaded nvidia-current and when I installed it...it recognizes my hdtv as a laptop screen? the highest resolution allowed is 640x480
[01:34] <nabblet> almoxarife: :/
[01:34] <totemuegerli> nvidia-settings or something
[01:34] <nabblet> natuilus is really a fat thing
[01:34] <totemuegerli> you can set them there
[01:34] <atlus> I am using a generic now and it works with my tv but it doesnt recognize the card...
[01:34] <totemuegerli> meowtilus is a nice kitten
[01:35] <nabblet> brady2600: no? no you can't? or no, you don't want to?
[01:35] <almoxarife> atlus: how did you install the nvidia drivers?
[01:35] <atlus> as soon as it recognizes the card.....I cant do anything. is there a way to set which display I prefer to use?
[01:35] <Karlo_> I've given up (for now) on trying to get machine X to boot.  My sister was kind enough to give me a replacement machine, Y, on which she's already installed 12.04.1 LTS.  I've just hooked it up, and when I press the power button, it lights up for maybe four seconds and then goes dark again; monitor remains blank.  Is this a known failure mode?  (Dell Dimension 8300; cables cannibalized from machine X).
[01:35] <brady2600> nabblet: the option does not exist in the right click menu
[01:35] <totemuegerli> those upgrade stuff needs a lot of time, ii got two ssd discs in a raid1
[01:35] <nabblet> brady2600: ah ok
[01:35] <nabblet> brady2600: does it have the .sh file ending?
[01:36] <jAguAr`> how do i set up my new Canon MG3122 printer to work?
[01:36] <totemuegerli> why is btrfs so slow with dpkg
[01:37] <atlus> any idea how to change what the display is? "laptop" display on my hdtv is pretty horrifying....
[01:37] <brady2600> well i can't see .sh on the file, but when i right click it and look at the properties i can see its type is shell script
[01:37] <brady2600> nabblet: well i can't see .sh on the file, but when i right click it and look at the properties i can see its type is shell script
[01:37] <lime_> Im trying to map ctrl to different keys but keep running into issues.  This works xmodmap -e "keycode 56 = Shift_L" but this doesnt xmodmap -e "keycode 56 = Control_L" Im not sure why?  How could i get it to work?
[01:37] <nabblet> brady2600: just rename it by appending an .sh to the file nabe
[01:37] <nabblet> name
[01:38] <almoxarife> jAguAr`: with the printer up and running and connected, via a browser connect to     localhost:631  , look for add drivers
[01:38] <lime_> so keycode 56 works as e cntrl
[01:38] <Karlo_> lime_: you might need to add it to the right modifier list, too.
[01:38] <brady2600> nabblet:  i managed to run it via the command line , however adding .sh, does not work, it still just opens in gedit if I double click it.
[01:38] <jAguAr`> almoxarife, gnome has found the printer, but it won't print color on the test page
[01:38] <jackies> What is the command for installing nvidia graphics driver in 12.10?
[01:39] <totemuegerli> its somewhere in the proprietary drivers
[01:39] <nabblet> brady2600: do you use nautilus?
[01:39] <almoxarife> jAguAr`: no idea
[01:39] <jackies> Or should i use additional drivers tool
[01:39] <nabblet> jackies: you can try jockey-gtk
[01:39] <totemuegerli> yeah add additionaly drivers and stuff
[01:39] <totemuegerli> and then you see a list of nvidia drivers
[01:39] <Karlo_> lime_: For example, I use (among others): xmodmap -e 'add mod1 = Meta_L Meta_R' -e 'add mod3 = Alt_L' -e 'add mod4 = Hyper_L Hyper_R'
[01:39] <nabblet> jackies: it's a software that looks for drivers dor you
[01:39] <brady2600> nabblet: i don't believe this box has nautilus installed on it.
[01:40] <brady2600> should i install it?
[01:40] <nabblet> brady2600: no
[01:40] <nabblet> brady2600: where is that file that you are double-clicking? on your desktop?
[01:40] <nabblet> brady2600: what filemanager do you use?
[01:40] <totemuegerli> double commander
[01:41] <totemuegerli> and midnight commander
[01:41] <almoxarife> !who > totemuegerli...
[01:41] <brady2600> nabblet:  its in the download folder, earlyer today it was running fine by double clicking it.. not sure what happened.
[01:41] <totemuegerli> !>who dr who?
[01:42] <brady2600> nabblet: im not sure what you mean by file manager, i have ubuntu 12.10 with gnome 3.6 installed.
[01:42] <nabblet> brady2600: then i think you already use natilus
[01:42] <nabblet> brady2600: it's the default filemanager
[01:42] <bobby_> blah
[01:42] <nabblet> brady2600: filemanager is that program, that shows you your folders
[01:43] <totemuegerli> someone watching rosemary? the cat?
[01:44] <nabblet> brady2600: since your prgram runs from terminal, i asume its a minor misconfiguration of your file manager
[01:44] <lime_> Karlo: How do i use a keycode because xmodmap -e 'add mod1 = 24'  doesnt seem to work?
[01:44] <JasonJrTest> how do i put like script commands in my motd likethe ip address and username
[01:45] <blackshirt> !find gns3
[01:45] <lime_> Karlo_: How do i use a keycode because xmodmap -e 'add mod1 = 24'  doesnt seem to work?
[01:45] <totemuegerli> !find goauld
[01:45] <Karlo_> lime_: I see that in my own list, I don't use mod2, so I expect that's where Ctrl is supposed to go.  Try: -e 'keycode 56 = Control_L' -e 'clear mod2' -e 'add mod2 = Control_L Control_R'
[01:45] <brady2600> nabblet: my wife says the only thing she did besides run this program this morning was to run ubuntu updates, this morning it ran just by clicking it.  is it possible the file manager got messed up durring the updates?
[01:45] <blackshirt> !info gns3
[01:46] <nabblet> brady2600: brady2600 hm, if it influences running simple sh scripts then stuff must be really gotten out of hand ;)
[01:47] <nabblet> brady2600: you are 100% sure you set it to executable?
[01:47] <brady2600> yes, i can see it in properties.
[01:47] <nabblet> brady2600: right-click, properties, permissions "Allow executing..."
[01:47] <Karlo_> lime_: if still trouble, paste the output of:  xmodmap -pm
[01:48] <brady2600> nabblet: yes.. it is checked.
[01:48] <JasonJrTest> how do i put like script commands in my motd likethe ip address and username
[01:48] <bobby_> bobby
[01:48] <nabblet> brady2600: i just made a simple test script. when i double click, it aske me if i want to run it, or display it
[01:49] <brady2600> nabblet: it does not ask me.
[01:49] <totemuegerli> someone has to invent a percentual display for upgrade, so anybody can see how far it is
[01:50] <lcabreza> Windows 7 64bit on virtual box crashing  on Probook 6555b. Any ideas why
[01:50] <lcabreza> ?
[01:51] <almoxarife> lcabreza: vbox does log
[01:51] <jasoN`> lcabreza: its windows
[01:51] <totemuegerli> try OS/2
[01:51] <mnathani> whats the best way to install Ubuntu on a Macbookpro that already has a bootcamp partition for windows
[01:51] <nabblet> brady2600: ok, very stupid try. make an other, simple .sh file
[01:52] <nabblet> brady2600: make it executable and then try the double click
[01:52] <jrib> j #emacs
[01:52] <nabblet> brady2600: i want to knwo it is the fault of nautilus of that specific file
[01:52] <ActionParsnip> nabblet: no need for the file extension :)
[01:52] <totemuegerli> !find tzdata
[01:53] <nabblet> ActionParsnip: just wanted to play it safe... brady2600's problem gets odd
[01:53] <nabblet> becomes odd
[01:53] <ActionParsnip> hehe
[01:53] <lime_> Karlo_:the last line xmodmap -e "add mod2 = Control_L Control_R" returns badValue
[01:53] <brady2600> nabblet: to be clear , all ssh scripts open in gedit, and refuse to run, even when they have run as application checked off
[01:53] <nabblet> get/becomes odd?
[01:53] <brady2600> i can however, run them from the command line.
[01:54] <tracy> Upgraded from 11.04 to 11.1 anyone tell me how to get back to the classic desktop?
[01:54] <almoxarife> brady2600: open a terminal, run 'nautilus --no-desktop' , then go thru the same moves causing the error, look at terminal output
[01:54] <lime_> Karlo_: and pm output is http://paste.ubuntu.com/1413780/
[01:54] <ActionParsnip> tracy: install the gnome-panel package, log off and select the new session
[01:55] <nabblet> tracy: logout and the choose gnome classic or gnome 2d or how ever it is called for login
[01:55] <totemuegerli> i hope quantum quanszal is not that buggy as the other one
[01:55] <nabblet> tracy: listen to ActionParsnip ;)
[01:55] <tracy> Ok thanks we will try that
[01:55] <ActionParsnip> tracy: or install xfce4 and use that as session
[01:56] <brady2600> almoxarife:  there is no particular error, it just does run the program, opening in gedit instead, even when run as application is checked off.
[01:56] <totemuegerli> i have an update marathon from 8.04 to 12.10
[01:57] <ActionParsnip> totemuegerli: you'd need to upgrade to Lucid, then to Precise, then to Quantal
[01:57] <nabblet> brady2600: it has to be checked
[01:57] <almoxarife> brady2600: pastebin the file
[01:57] <ActionParsnip> totemuegerli: I'd just clean install Quantal
[01:57] <brady2600> nabblet: of course it is checked.
[01:58] <brady2600> almoxarife: it is not a specific script, ALL scripts are behaving this way.
[01:58] <nabblet> brady2600: ah, so "checked off" means it is checked?
[01:58] <lime_> Im getting the same error as the one here http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/4485 when running xmodmap -e "add mod2 = Control_L Control_R" Im going to try some of the work arounds
[01:58] <nabblet> brady2600: english is not my native language :P
[01:58] <brady2600> nabblet:  with a check on. enabled. on.
[01:58] <mikky> pls can someone help me here am run HP Envy 17 inch Ubuntu 64 bit.. 8 gig ram but my pc seems to be running really hot as i run 12.04LTS
[01:58] <nabblet> brady2600: got it :)
[01:58] <ActionParsnip> mikky: does it have a switchable GPU?
[01:59] <ActionParsnip> mikky: if you run:  sudo lshw -C display     do you see an Intel GPU as well as a Radeon or Nvidia?
[01:59] <mikky> ActionParsnip, i don't understand it, how do i check it?
[01:59] <brady2600> nabblet: its ok, i can see how "checked off" would be confusing.
[02:01] <almoxarife> nabblet: its a useful language english is till you abuse it, 'checked off' meaning actually that its on is abuse :) but thats slang for you
[02:01] <lcabreza>  almoxarife:let me check, still running on Windows xp
[02:01] <mikky> ActionParsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1413783/ this is what i see
[02:01] <almoxarife> lcabreza: i forgot what the question was
[02:01] <FaBiNNHo> ALGUEM AEEEEE
[02:01] <almoxarife> !pt
[02:01] <ActionParsnip> mikky: yes, its a switchable video chip which is a massive headache in Linux
[02:01] <lcabreza> jasoN`: sad to say ..Windows ...:)
[02:01] <almoxarife> FaBiNNHo: sff
[02:01] <totemuegerli> kc4sux was on 80m a hour ago
[02:02] <Karlo_> lime_: OK, undo what I said by typing xmodmap -e 'add mod2 = Num_Lock'
[02:02] <mikky> ActionParsnip, hmm am confused, makes me want to hate my laptop. Any solution please?
[02:03] <Karlo_> lime_: Then, I think the right command was: xmodmap -e 'keycode 56 = Control_L' -e 'clear control' -e 'add control = Control_L Control_R'
[02:03] <totemuegerli> mikky: yeah don't hate your laptop, hate your operating system
[02:03] <FaBiNNHo> !pt
[02:04] <ActionParsnip> mikky: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics
[02:04] <nabblet> brady2600: do you have an other user on your compter to log in wiht?
[02:04] <ActionParsnip> totemuegerli: hate support by AMD / Nvidia. The OS is sound
[02:04] <nabblet> brady2600: you could try to find out if this behaviour is for all users or oly your current users
[02:05] <psychopathic> did you know gnome 3 is programming of the finest. It travels in a box out a square and through a circle.
[02:05] <brady2600> nabblet: i dont currently have any other users on this box, however im sure i could create one to check
[02:05] <nabblet> brady2600: or use sudo
[02:05] <nabblet> brady2600: use the root account for that one test - as long as the shell script is not making any "reisky" stuff
[02:05] <totemuegerli> ActionParsnip, : intel had a well documented thing, but lot of problems with linux
[02:05] <nabblet> *risky
[02:06] <mikky> ActionParsnip, thanks
[02:06] <almoxarife> my intel lappy works great with linux
[02:06] <totemuegerli> !find girl
[02:07] <ActionParsnip> totemuegerli: Intel plough lots of time and money into drivers as well as the kernel
[02:07] <totemuegerli> thats fascinating
[02:08] <brady2600> nabblet: ok , once I eat dinner I will try that.
[02:08] <ActionParsnip> totemuegerli: Intel are great, if you start getting into switchable video chips then expect headaches
[02:08] <nabblet> brady2600: might be that i am not around then any more
[02:08] <nabblet> brady2600: but any way, i am usre it is just a minor comfiguration thing
[02:08] <totemuegerli> thats why i use a sandy bridge based system
[02:09] <nabblet> brady2600: and it got nothing to do with the update
[02:09] <mikky> Hi, i cant find any terminal i open.
[02:10] <ActionParsnip> totemuegerli: not a bad choice at all :)
[02:10] <totemuegerli> type alt-f2
[02:10] <ActionParsnip> mikky: CTRL+ALT+T
[02:10] <lime_> Karlo_: Thanks that works for Cntrl but ultimately Im running into issues when trying to set the Mod3 key.  It doesnt appear to work like the Cntrl key.  xmodmap -e 'keycode 56 = Mod3 Mod3 Mod3 Mod3' -e 'clear Mod3' -e 'add Mod3 = Mod3 Mod3' Throws an error.
[02:10] <nodrognorrab> :)
[02:11] <totemuegerli> ctrl alt f2 or something
[02:11] <mikky> when i open a terminal, and go to another another window e.g  before coming to type this message you are reading, i opened a terminal but it didn't show up in the launcher or dock
[02:11] <Karlo_> lime_: What do you want key 56 to do?
[02:12] <mikky> ActionParsnip,  i can open terminal but it disappears because i cant find it when i navigate to another windows since it is not in the dock
[02:13] <nabblet> mikky: even not alt-tab working?
[02:13] <Karlo_> lime_: Perhaps you should put Meta_L/Meta_R on mod1, and put Alt_L/Alt_R on mod3.  That's what I do (with Meta being the keys commonly mislabeled ALT, and with Alt being what I put on the Caps Lock key).
[02:14] <mikky> nabblet, alt-tab doesn't work
[02:16] <lime_> Karlo: My bad just. I moving both the Control key and the Mod3 key.  I dont plain to put them on top of each other, just using the same key for testing.  Currently xmodmap -e 'keycode 56 = Mod3 -e 'clear Mod3' -e 'add Mod3 = Mod3'  throws an error
[02:16] <crimsonmane> mikky: might i suggest installing "guake" (sudo apt-get install guake) because you just press F12 and bam there's the terminal
[02:16] <totemuegerli> is it possible to migrate from ext4 to btrfs on / partition?
[02:17] <Karlo_> lime_: That's because there's no keyname spelled "Mod3", as far as I know.
[02:18] <mens> Is not possible to make a stable version of Ubuntu to be further developed?
[02:18] <mens> Every year a new version of ubuntu.
[02:18] <mens> And I was thinking to donate.
[02:18] <nabblet> mens: you might want to look into LTS
[02:18] <nabblet> !LTS
[02:19] <nabblet> mens: so you can follow the "normal release cycle" or decide to go from LTS to LTS. LTS versions are usually more stable and better tested
[02:19] <Karlo_> lime_: Perhaps what you want is:  xmodmap -e 'keycode 64 = Meta_L' -e 'keycode 108 = Meta_R' -e 'keycode 56 = Alt_L' -e 'clear mod1' -e 'clear mod3' -e 'add mod1 = Meta_L Meta_R' -e 'add mod3 = Alt_L'
[02:19] <escott> totemuegerli, yes
[02:20] <lime_> Does that switch the alt key and meta key?
 For me it was enough version 10.04 LTS and support.
[02:21] <bangarang> hi
[02:21] <bangarang> anyone can recomend me good themes
[02:21] <totemuegerli> why is this fsync soooo damn slow on btrfs... this takes forever
[02:21] <ActionParsnip> mens: LTS is supported 5 years, just like windows releases....
[02:21] <bangarang> for ubuntu quantal (12.10)
[02:21] <Karlo_> lime_: I'm just guessing based on your paste.  I don't know what key 56 is on your keyboard, nor do I know what it is that you're trying to do.
[02:22] <crimsonmane> i don't know what sort of flack i'm going to get for this, but windows releases are supported for 10 years, not 5
[02:22] <ActionParsnip> bangarang: http://www.noobslab.com/2011/11/themes-collection-for-ubuntu-1110-unity.html
 Video card does not allow me to go on Ubuntu 12.04!
[02:22] <gulag2012> Ha ha, they can be supported for 20 years. Do you want it on your machine for that long?
[02:22] <nabblet> bangarang: http://gnome-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=191 ?
[02:22] <crimsonmane> if it works dont fix it
[02:23] <nabblet> bangarang: oh, sorry missed the "ubuntu only" part
[02:23] <gulag2012> I can't argue that. It leaves a bitter taste.
 For my needs, yes!
[02:23] <Karlo_> lime_: However, my understanding is that if you *have* something defined as a meta key, then it gets used as such; and if you don't have a meta key, but you do have an alt key, then alt gets interpreted as meta.  So the "switch" is already automatic, sort of.
[02:24] <gulag2012> That's all that matters. If it works for you. I just think that the spying was enough for me personally.
[02:24] <nabblet> bye bye
 Windows XP ---- from 2001 to 2016
[02:26] <iomicio> Hello everybody. I have 2 harddrives (SSD 64GB and SATA 3TB). I am trying to decompress a large file (80GB) but archive warns me I out of space while I have plenty available.
[02:26] <iomicio> I am new to Ubuntu and I have no idea about this issu
[02:27] <ActionParsnip> mens: could use XFCE, you can use any video chip there :)
[02:27] <schoppenhauer> hello. I am currently desperately trying to make ubuntu 12.04 print on my printer. the error message of cups is that application/octet-stream is unsupported
[02:27] <ActionParsnip> iomicio: what file system is the partition you are extracting to using?
[02:27] <schoppenhauer> but /etc/cups/raw.mimes and /etc/cups/raw.convs seems to be correct
[02:28] <ActionParsnip> schoppenhauer: I suggest you ask in #cups too
[02:28] <iomicio> ActionParsnip: ext4
[02:28] <schoppenhauer> and strangely, lpr -o raw mozilla.ps gives the error message lpr: Unsupported document-format "application/vnd.cups-raw"
[02:28] <schoppenhauer> ActionParsnip: ok thx
[02:28] <ActionParsnip> iomicio: should be ok, ext4 can handle very very large files
[02:28] <hilo> Just curious. What possible 'good
[02:29] <iomicio> ActionParsnip: yes, that is why I don-t understand the error message. Maybe I messed up with the partition space? how can I check?
[02:29] <crimsonmane> schoppenhauer: did you do updates today? lots of cups updates today
[02:30] <hilo> Just curious. What possible 'good' reason is there for using 4MiB of swap, when there is nearly 11GiB of physical RAM being used for the file cache?
[02:30] <iomicio> ActionParsnip: I am looking at the Disk Usage Analyzer and I can see "Total filesystem capacity: 3TB (used 174 GB available 2.8TB)"
[02:30] <iomicio> but the / folder is 100% full having a size of only 96.9 GB
[02:30] <psusi> iomicio, if yuo are trying to decompress 80gb onto a 64 gb drive, then obviously you are going to run out of space
[02:30] <hk007> that's a good question
[02:30] <ActionParsnip> hilo: file cache doesn't mean much, it will be reduced as apps need the RAM
[02:31] <mako_reactor> Install gento
[02:31] <schoppenhauer> crimsonmane: ah, did not notice so far. I will try that first.
[02:31] <psychopathic> iomicio, do you know about the command df
[02:31] <iomicio> no
[02:31] <macmartine> Where's the Unicorn log file?
[02:31] <psychopathic> iomicio, man df
[02:31] <ActionParsnip> hilo: if you need suspend / hibernate then you will need a 12Gb swap file (a little extra is useful), otherwise you can probably get away with no swap (depends on system use)
[02:31] <hilo> ActionParsnip: I guess then I'm wondering what would make the OS decide to use swap when there is so much being used for the cache.
[02:31] <Karlo_> Unicorn?  What unicorn?
[02:31] <hk007> I use "df -h" all the time
[02:32] <gulag2012> If you don't like the command line, you can also check system monitor the last tab on the right. I just noticed that.
[02:32] <ActionParsnip> hilo: the default swappiness is more than zero, you will use some unless you set it to zero
[02:34] <gulag2012> Is there anyway to modify Unity dash to a smaller size?
[02:34] <iomicio> psychopathic: this looks like a bug manual. Anything in particular I should be lookign for?
[02:34] <hk007> yes
[02:34] <hilo> ActionParsnip: If I were to set it to zero, would the system still know to use it if I actually ran out of RAM? i.e. avoid kernel panic?
[02:34] <schoppenhauer> crimsonmane: the problem remains, even after update
[02:35] <birdontophat> hi. I have a laptop with NVS3100M Nvidia graphics (optimus is disabled in the BIOS), but the nvidia drivers don't seem to work in 12.10. I get "You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver"
[02:35] <birdontophat> I have run sudo nvidia-xconfig and rebooted, but it doesn't help
[02:35] <hk007> try installing the "nvidia-current" package
[02:36] <hk007> if it's not
[02:36] <birdontophat> hk007: I've done that
[02:37] <psychopathic> iomicio, it reports file system usage on the disk. that is what u wanted right ?
[02:37] <ActionParsnip> hilo: at zero the OS will attempt to use all RA< and avoid swap until the death, setting swap to at least one with a tonne of ram is a wiser choice
[02:38] <iomicio> psychopathic: yes and it shows I have pletny of available space, especially on the 3TB disk
[02:38] <iomicio> psychopathic: df: `/root/.gvfs': Permission denied
[02:38] <iomicio> Filesystem         1K-blocks      Used  Available Use% Mounted on
[02:38] <iomicio> /dev/sdb1           49157432   7418168   39242192  16% /
[02:38] <iomicio> udev                 6140352         4    6140348   1% /dev
[02:38] <iomicio> tmpfs                2460952       836    2460116   1% /run
[02:38] <iomicio> none                    5120         0       5120   0% /run/lock
[02:38] <FloodBot1> iomicio: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:39] <psychopathic> iomicio, what other disk usage do u want ?
[02:39] <hk007> birdontophat: did you already checked if it is enabled in "Hardware Drivers"?
 I hope you're kidding? XFCE :))  In such machine, with Windows XP or UBUNTU 10.04, I am flying!
[02:40] <mens> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Fujitsu-AMILO-Pro-V3505-Edition/dp/B000MG87H0
[02:40] <mens> I use XBOX for gaming
[02:40] <hk007> I use Windows D:
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[02:40] <hilo> ActionParsnip: is this accurate? http://scottlinux.com/2010/06/23/adjust-your-swappiness/
[02:41] <iomicio> psychopathic: I cannot decompress a large file as the systems warns me I am out of space while I have plenty of disk available. Disk Usage Analyzer says my "/" folder is just 96GB and 100% full. Where sis I go wrong?
[02:41] <lime_> Karlo_: Im using an international dvorak keyboard with additional keys in the 3rd row, I have been using CapsLock under keyboard settings options to access this 3rd layer.  Im trying to change the 3rd level modifier key to keycode 55 on my keyboard.  I believe it has something to do with  ISO_Level3_Shift
[02:41] <psychopathic> iomicio, what other disk usage do u want ?
[02:41] <hilo> ActionParsnip: I was tweaking a server, but after reading that, I'm feeling like maybe I should do my desktop too...
[02:41] <hk007> iomicio: That's because there is a reserved amount of space for root
[02:41] <hk007> in the file system
[02:43] <ReAzem> Any easy-pz way to tranfer files to a kvm guest?
[02:43] <iomicio> hk007: so how can I decompress a 90 GB .gz file having 2.3 TB available on the SATA disk?
[02:43] <hk007> on the same partition?
[02:44] <iomicio> hk007: I have two disks, bot on ext4. I guess they are different partitions but I am not sure
[02:44] <Karlo_> lime_: OK -- I don't know anything about that keyboard, but perhaps the commands I've already provided will be enough of a head start.  It looks like you've already ensured that the locking action of Caps_Lock has been disabled; that's good.  Anyway, I'm out of here for now -- good luck.
[02:46] <hk007> iomicio: So... you want to decompress a that file from /dev/sda1 to /dev/sdb1 , right?
[02:47] <gesalip> hello
[02:47] <hk007> hloe
[02:47] <gesalip> hole
[02:47] <iomicio> hk007: now I get it, no the file is on the same partition, same folder
[02:47] <hk007> iomicio: which partition, sda1 or sdb1?
[02:48] <iomicio> hk007: how can I check?
[02:48] <iomicio> hk007:sda1
[02:48] <WeThePeople> where do i put .ttf <<<'font'
[02:48] <hk007> ok
[02:48] <WeThePeople> files
[02:50] <hilo> Is there a way to ssh into a box and using the CLI, launch a GUI program in the local user's screen?
[02:50] <hk007> iomicio: As I saw before, the big partition is sdb1, so you could try to decompress that file to somewhere in sdb1
[02:51] <Sloofus> hilo: that wording makes it sound like the box may not be yours :-p
[02:51] <crimsonmane> hilo: define "local user's screen"
[02:51] <iomicio> hk007: the big partition is sda1
[02:51] <crimsonmane> hilo: "ssh -x user@host" then you can launch remote programs on your own screen
[02:51] <iomicio> /dev/sda1         2884283608 162646292 2575124064   6% /media/data
[02:52] <bangarang> guys how can I drag icons from the laucher to the desktop on ubuntu ? linux noobs here
[02:52] <crimsonmane> hilo: might be "ssh -X"
[02:52] <hk007> iomicio: /dev/sdb1           49157432   7418168   39242192  16% /
[02:52] <hk007> you said that
[02:52] <hilo> Sloofus: So that I can launch apps for my dad on the Ubuntu laptop I set up for him. He needs help lol
[02:52] <dr_willis> WeThePeople:  i put mine in the     .fonts directory in my home i made
[02:52] <hilo> crimsonmane: that sounds pretty awesome
[02:53] <hilo> crimsonmane: that will work out of the box?
[02:53] <iomicio> hk007: that is not the 3TB disk
[02:54] <iomicio> hk007: this one is /dev/sda1         2884283608 162646292 2575124064   6% /media/data
[02:54] <iomicio> and I am working there
[02:54] <TandyUK> iomicio:  gunzip -c /path/to/gzipped.file.gz > /path/to/extracted/files/
[02:54] <psusi> iomicio, apparently you have the big disk mounted in /media/data, so that is where you need to decompress the big file
[02:54] <hk007> I see...
[02:54] <hk007> Then I don't understand how it complains about free space
[02:55] <hk007> Did you check the folder's permissions?
[02:55] <dr_willis> hilo:  he may need to do some commands first to disable some if the x security features
[02:56] <taub> why is ubuntu regarded as an easy distribution?
[02:56] <iomicio> I am trying the gunzip -c command now
[02:56] <iomicio> hk007: permission should be fine
[02:56] <dr_willis> taub:  its developed with the common pc user in  mind.
[02:57] <psusi> iomicio, you don't need commands, you just need to extract the archive to somewhere on the dig disk... in /media/data
[02:57] <gulag2012> There has to be a bug, if anyone has ever run Bleachbit at Root it gives the same out of room error.
[02:58] <iomicio> psusi: I right clicked on the .gz and selected extract here. After 40 minutes I got the error warning I was out of disk space
[02:58] <taub> dr_willis, yes, but how is this accomplished?
[02:58] <psusi> iomicio, uh-huh.. and where is "here"
[02:58] <iomicio> psusi: I guess not where I wanted right? did it try the root partition?
[02:58] <psusi> iomicio, sounds like it
[02:59] <TandyUK> iomicio: you would probably find it easier to just ensure the .gz file is already on your large disk
[02:59] <dr_willis> taub:  err.. design decisions for how the defaults should be and how things should work.  and  'ussage tests' with people
[02:59] <iomicio> ok so the gunzip command with the path should work
[02:59] <hk007> iomicio: You can check the permissions with "ls -l /media/data/" in case you need to.
[02:59] <psusi> iomicio, or when you open it in the archive manager, and chose to extract it, point it to somewhere in /media/data
[03:00] <hilo> Would it be possible to take an already running process and tunnel it to my local X? So that I could pull the midway work I have in some program to my local screen without using a full remote desktop like vnc.
[03:00] <TandyUK> iomicio: the command i gave will *only* work if the .gz is a single file, and not a tar.gz archive (of multiple files)
[03:00] <dr_willis> hilo:  not vdry easially, if at all
[03:00] <ActionParsnip> iomicio: could try unp. Its a single command for all archive types command. Very handy
[03:00] <ActionParsnip> TandyUK: could use unp, its simpler
[03:00] <hilo> dr_willis: k thanks
[03:00] <TandyUK> if it is in fact .tar.gz, use "tar -zxfC /path/to/extracted/files/ file.tar.gz"
[03:00] <iomicio> TandyUK: thank you but I see no tar in the file name
[03:01] <ActionParsnip> iomicio: sudo apt-get install unp; unp filenameofarchive
[03:01] <iomicio> ActionParsnip: where does this command extract the file?
[03:01] <hk007> what is unp for?
[03:01] <ActionParsnip> iomicio: pwd
[03:01] <dr_willis> !info unp
[03:02] <TandyUK> unp will only extract to the currrent folder
[03:02] <dr_willis> unp = a handy script
[03:02] <ActionParsnip> hk007: it gives a single command for extracting all archives, rather than having to remember the options for tar etc
[03:02] <SolarisB1y> oh cool i have a shell function that tries to do that
[03:02] <TandyUK> he needs to extract from /dev/sdaX and extract to /dev/sdbX, so unp wont help him
[03:03] <TandyUK> personally id just move the archive, much easier :P
[03:03] <hk007> ActionParsnip: Cool, thank you! :D
[03:03] <ActionParsnip> hk007: imho it should be default installed
[03:03] <TandyUK> that just for lazy people
[03:03] <SolarisB1y> lazy people rule the world
[03:03] <psusi> seriously, this is not hard... when you open the archive in the gui archive manager, and click extract, it asks where to... point it to the big drive
[03:03] <KI4RO> Lazy is the Mother of Invention
[03:04] <ActionParsnip> TandyUK: or people with better things to do than remember options for each archive. Its like the right click option in the gui :)
[03:04] <dr_willis> im too lazy to reply to the commen about lazyness
[03:04] <SolarisB1y> lol
[03:04] <hk007> good for you
 Lazy is the Mother of Invention ...i totally agree to this
[03:04] <SolarisB1y> I as well
[03:04] <TandyUK> yeah but heres the thing,, if you *need* tools like unp, and dont have a gui, you should *really* be learning to use the aactual commands like tar and gunzip
[03:04] <ActionParsnip> TandyUK: unp can be used, change to the desired dest and run unp against the archive
[03:04] <SolarisB1y> i write some cool scripts out of laziness
[03:04] <iomicio> I get it now, I simply made the mistake of choosing extract here thinking here was the current folder. I am a noob! thank you all guys. This chat is making me love Ubuntu way more than I expected!
[03:04] <TandyUK> and if you have a gui, you dont need it in the first place
[03:05] <ActionParsnip> SolarisB1y: no bad thing, scripts make life easier
[03:05] <SolarisB1y> ActionParsnip: indeed ;>
[03:05] <dr_willis> i write scripts that make other scrips , im so lazy
[03:05] <SolarisB1y> ^ word
[03:05] <hk007> iomicio: glad to help you solving your problem
[03:06] <iomicio> hk007: thank you all
[03:07] <SolarisB1y> does ubuntu have any tools for customizing the default initramfs in a chroot like manner?
[03:07] <marcus__> What's the deal with terrible audio in VLC in 12.10?
[03:08] <marcus__> Totem skips on audio occasionally, and sometimes VLC audio is fine, but 2 out of 3 times that I open it that audio sounds like a scratched record.
[03:08] <marcus__> With a slight reverb
[03:08] <dr_willis> marcus__:  i recall getting srachy audio unless i selced alsa, or pulse in the vlc sound output. instead of 'default'
[03:09] <dr_willis> marcus__:  seen the issue in the last  releases. not sure if its a vlc bug or alsa bug or driver issue
[03:09] <crimsonmane> marcus__: that's why sticking with a stable LTS is better
[03:09] <marcus__> tried selecting "alsa" manually, no audio at all, selected pulse manually, got scratch audio
[03:10] <dr_willis> crimsonmane:  i had the same issue in lts. ;)
[03:10] <ActionParsnip> marcus__: are other audio apps ok?
[03:10] <dr_willis> marcus__:  i recall i had to selectg the audio out, close vlc and restart it for it to see the change.
[03:10] <marcus__> yeah everything else works fine, only skype and vlc have the problem
[03:11] <dr_willis> i dont recall which one worked for me. just thet 'default' did not
[03:11] <ActionParsnip> marcus__: try changing the sound output preference in vlc prefs
[03:12] <dh-sharpperson1> 有人在吗？
[03:13] <paris> For some reason a phone is not working on gmail, how to fix it?
[03:13] <dr_willis> paris:  clarify what you mean.. would help us
[03:14] <hk007> "a phone"...
[03:14] <dr_willis> we hate playing 0 questions for an hr to get to the real question. ;)
[03:14] <dr_willis> 20 questions
[03:14] <almoxarife> dr_willis: my toaster is broke
[03:14]  * dr_willis asks santa for a new keybord
[03:15] <dr_willis> almoxarife:  upgrade to iToast 5.0
[03:15] <almoxarife> dr_willis: can you walk me thru that?
[03:16] <dr_willis> almoxarife:  plug in toaster.. dump it in the sink.. ;)  tell the wife to use the insurance money.....
[03:17] <almoxarife> dr_willis: is there a #bash script'? do you like bash? teach me
[03:17]  * dr_willis waits for paris  o give some details
[03:18] <paris> I used to be able to call through gamil over the world, but now for some reason is not working. It seems that computer is recognizing a speaker and microphone, but when I try  do call the speaker is silent, why?
[03:18] <dr_willis> you mean 'google voice' paris?
[03:18] <paris> yes
[03:18] <hk007> I think it's Google Talk
[03:19] <almoxarife> paris: what browser?
[03:19] <_abc__> Best howto to mod a 10.04 live cd? Remaster?
[03:19] <paris> chrome
[03:19] <dr_willis> voice lets you dial numbers and have an incomming phone #. talk = like an im client. i belive
[03:19] <dr_willis> !remaster
[03:20] <almoxarife> paris: recent changes made to the operationg system?
[03:20] <crimsonmane> dr_willis: google talk is for texting. you place calls in gmail
[03:20] <brady2600> what is the standard xeyes to use on ubuntu, i have a x server on my raspberry pi and ive ssh'ed to it , and i would like to be able to view it
[03:20] <hk007> paris: You can try native clients, such as Empathy or Pidgin
[03:20] <almoxarife> !yate
[03:20] <dh-sharpperson1> hello，everyone！
[03:21] <dr_willis> crimsonmane:  and thats using google voice.
[03:21] <dh-sharpperson1> chinese
[03:21] <crimsonmane> dr_willis: no
[03:21] <msponge> Any HAM radio operators here? I have two questions if so: 1) when determining WPM does one include spaces between the words PARIS or CODEX? 2) is 5 or 7 dits more common for inter word spacing?
[03:21] <crimsonmane> dr_willis: you do not have to set up google voice in order to use gmail calling
[03:21]  * almoxarife uses 'yate' to call via google , and it works
[03:21] <paris> no. but skype is working on so why gmail voice is .  . .?
[03:22] <dr_willis> crimsonmane:  i recall having to install the google voice plugin.
[03:22]  * crimsonmane thanks almoxarife for 'yate' ... will research it
[03:22] <crimsonmane> dr_willis: yes
[03:22] <dr_willis> but i use the google voice stuff on my phone   not the pc
[03:22] <crimsonmane> but there is also "google.com/voice" and THATS what i call google voice.
[03:22] <almoxarife> crimsonmane: its the only client that i have tried that just works!
[03:23] <crimsonmane> almoxarife: is it in the repo?
[03:23] <Sloofus> hey guys I downgraded 4 packages that network-manager-dbg depends on unnecessarily and now any attempts to fix the dependency issues are met with a dependency error. also, "No apport report written because the error message indicates its a followup error from a previous failure"
[03:23] <almoxarife> paris: did you configure chrome settings ??
[03:23] <Sloofus> thoughts?
[03:23] <almoxarife> crimsonmane: ooops, maybe? :(
[03:24] <dr_willis> paris:  call your self on a real phone. it could be a audio is muted/mixer setting
[03:24] <crimsonmane> almoxarife: i shouldn't have asked. it is.
[03:24] <almoxarife> crimsonmane: find the deb if need be
[03:24] <crimsonmane> y
[03:24] <Sloofus> (libnm-util2, libnm-glib4, libnm-glib-vpn1)
[03:24] <crimsonmane> sorry wrong window
[03:24] <Sloofus> and network-manager
[03:24] <Sloofus> this is all using apt-get upgrade
[03:25] <almoxarife> dr_willis: paris... says skype works fine, if skype works i would expect anything else to work
[03:26] <dr_willis> i suggest checking out the sound mixer/volume controlls, could be that one app is set to be mute/low in the mixer
[03:26] <crimsonmane> almoxarife: does yate not go into the menu all by itself?
[03:26] <almoxarife> crimsonmane: only one fault i have with yate, i dont get a ringer sound, but i can live without it, cause otherwise it works
[03:26] <paris> it did call myself, but is no sound, so how to think it?
[03:26] <almoxarife> crimsonmane: menu?
[03:26] <stuck_at_login> hi there
[03:26] <crimsonmane> (proper menu)
[03:26] <stuck_at_login> i need help
[03:27] <stuck_at_login> my loging password is corrct
[03:27] <dr_willis> paris:  no sound on the phone? none on the pc?
[03:27] <almoxarife> crimsonmane: you want everything done for you?
[03:27] <stuck_at_login> but cnat neter ubuntu gui
[03:27] <crimsonmane> almoxarife: everything in the repo always goes under a menu/submenu
[03:27] <stuck_at_login> any clue?
[03:27] <Sloofus> stuck_at_login: any errors?
[03:27] <almoxarife> paris: you did say skype works fine though? yes
[03:27] <dr_willis> stuck_at_login:  does guest account work?
[03:27] <gigglefight> correct syntax two add two changes to the grub boot-options file. one change: nomoreset and pci=routeirq
[03:27] <stuck_at_login> no it doesnt
[03:28] <gigglefight> typo: nomodeset and pci=routeirq
[03:28] <dr_willis> stuck_at_login:  can you login at the console?
[03:28] <almoxarife> crimsonmane: add it from /usr/share/applications
[03:28] <Sloofus> stuck_at_login: tried "startx"? also, describe what happens after ubuntu loads
[03:28] <brady2600> what is the standard xserver viewer for ubuntu?
[03:28] <stuck_at_login> yes i can login at the console
[03:28] <paris> I can play music and so on, but when it comes to calling, is silent. I am going to test again skype.
[03:28] <crimsonmane> almoxarife: it's running via command line, but i dont see an "interface" to interact with
[03:28] <crimsonmane> almoxarife: i'll read the website
[03:29] <dr_willis> stuck_at_login:   id make a new user. see if it works for them. 'sudo adduser testuser'
[03:29] <stuck_at_login> dr_ ok i will create new user
[03:29] <hk007> paris: then Pidgin may work for you
[03:30] <almoxarife> crimsonmane: may need the applet, mine is yate-qt4
[03:30] <stuck_at_login> dr_ i created new user
[03:30] <dr_willis> !tab
[03:31] <crimsonmane> almoxarife: there. that gave the menu item :)
[03:31] <crimsonmane> thank you
[03:31] <paris> I have just tested echo on skype. it works, I can record something and it says back.
[03:31] <AMDAthlon> will i have to reinstall ubuntu if i upgrade my ram from 4gb to 8gb?
[03:31] <stuck_at_login> dr_ i tried login through new user but no luck!!!
[03:31] <almoxarife> crimsonmane: dont over do the options as suggested
[03:31] <crimsonmane> ok
[03:32] <dr_willis> AMDAthlon:  why would you think that? answer is no....
[03:32] <AMDAthlon> well it happened in windows vista before...
[03:32] <almoxarife> crimsonmane: it has conference call capability, have not tried though
[03:32] <crimsonmane> almoxarife: so with this program running, someone can call my google voice number and the computer will ring (you said there's no real 'ring') but i can answer with my computer?
[03:32] <Sloofus> paris: sorry for being nosey, your last comment caught my eye, what are you working on?
[03:32] <AMDAthlon> idk if its the same accross all oss
[03:32] <dr_willis> AMDAthlon:  vista handled 8gb of ram? never noticed.. and this is not windows
[03:33] <AMDAthlon> ok i see >_<
[03:33] <FRodriguez96> I have BackBox installing as I'm speaking and in the past it would go to a black error screen during install and not finish.
[03:33] <almoxarife> crimsonmane: i dont get ring, from the forums i went thru though it seemed that was a hit and miss
[03:33] <FRodriguez96> Would someone care to help me?
[03:33] <AMDAthlon> my swap file is 2GB now, should i bump that up?
[03:33] <AMDAthlon> when my 8GB goes in tomorrow?
[03:33] <crimsonmane> almoxarife: would you care to save me the trouble and tell me what google voice protocol is? sip, jabber, h323, iax?
[03:33] <almoxarife> none crimsonmane...
[03:34] <crimsonmane> doh
[03:34] <dr_willis> stuck_at_login:  another 'test' at the console  install openbox 'sudo apt-get install openbox' select thta window manager at the login screen see if that works for any of the users
[03:34] <crimsonmane> it's obvious
[03:34] <almoxarife> sorry crimsonmane...looking at the setup?
[03:34] <Sloofus> AMDAthlon: probably not. Swapping generally isnt a good thing from what i understand. If you swap more than 2gigs, you might want to look into why that is happening.
[03:34] <crimsonmane> mhmm but like i said it's obvious
[03:34] <gigglefight> i'm updating grub.cfg file with nano. i think my syntax needs work would it be okay to surround the changes with quotation marks separated with a space? will this execute both changes during boot? I'm using the syntax: "nomodeset" "pci=routeirq" now the boot monitor configuration is not quite the same again. alone "nomodeset" makes the boot better looking. now, with the new changes it's not quite right. my goal: usb 2.0 high-speed opt
[03:34] <ActionParsnip> Sloofus: gone
[03:34] <dr_willis> stuck_at_login:  you may need to restart the login manager 'sudo service lightdm restart'
[03:35] <ActionParsnip> gigglefight: you don't edit grub.cfg
[03:35] <ActionParsnip> gigglefight: you edit /etc/default/grub   to add boot options
[03:35] <paris> I don't know how to properly express in English, but voice on gmail is not working, when I try do call my friends, it used to work.
[03:35] <almoxarife> crimsonmane: looking at the setup screen?
[03:35] <almoxarife> crimsonmane: looking at the setup screen? account?
[03:35] <ActionParsnip> gigglefight: the grub.cfg file is even chmodded so it isn't easily edittable
[03:35] <crimsonmane> almoxarife: finished all that. about to do a test call
[03:36] <ActionParsnip> gigglefight: the file even TELLS you not to edit it.....
[03:36] <almoxarife> crimsonmane: cool
[03:36] <gigglefight> ActionParsnip: yes i do. because with my ati rage xl on board video card the picture is kinda off. 'nomodeset' was a quick fix
[03:36] <ActionParsnip> gigglefight: you add boot options in /et/default/grub
[03:36] <gigglefight> ActionParsnip: so sorry. i said .cfg
[03:36] <ActionParsnip> gigglefight: you then run:  sudo update-grub to put it in the config
[03:36] <gigglefight> ActionParsnip: i meant the grub found in the /etc/default folder
[03:37] <ActionParsnip> gigglefight: good :)
[03:37] <ActionParsnip> gigglefight: big difference ;)
[03:37] <dr_willis> very big...
[03:38] <marcus__> What program would you guys recommend for recording webcam video?  I really like Cheese, but for some reason when I choose 640x480 it freezes and crashes.
[03:38] <almoxarife> marcus__: vlc
[03:38] <gigglefight> ActionParsnip: i did run the command, however, why is the graphics card 'wigging out'? is it because i added the extra pci=*** boot option on top of nomodeset?
[03:39] <ActionParsnip> gigglefight: not sure, you could try forming an xorg.conf file to specify better options for video
[03:39] <gigglefight> ActionParsnip: thanks. i will look into that.
[03:39] <crimsonmane> almoxarife: test call failed. nothing in the interface changes to show that i can answer the call.
[03:40] <ActionParsnip> gigglefight: tried a non compositing desktop, like xfce?
[03:40] <gigglefight> ActionParship: it's an ATI rage XL 8mb video card... it's do the best it can with the given support from ATI
[03:40] <almoxarife> crimsonmane: your settings for google voice set thru google account are setup?
[03:41] <almoxarife> crimsonmane: for instance mine is set to go to voice-mail regardless
[03:41] <crimsonmane> everything i set up. i've had this for a year
[03:41] <crimsonmane> so yours doesn't ring a proper phone. that's usually how mine is.
[03:42] <kvothetech> crimsonmane: google voice is sip gtalk is jabber
[03:42] <kvothetech> or xmmp
[03:42] <gigglefight> ActionParship: this onboard graphics card is only temporary because i'm looking to invest in an older nvidia quadro pci express x1 card. i'm more multimedia than anything.
[03:42] <almoxarife> kvothetech: jabber
[03:42] <kvothetech> almoxarife: k
[03:42] <almoxarife> kvothetech: yate is jabber anyway
[03:43] <kvothetech> almoxarife: pretty sure jabber uses xmpp though
[03:43] <crimsonmane> kvothetech: what server do i need to type in then?
[03:43] <kvothetech> crimsonmane: i missed the beginning of your issue what're you setting up? an asterisk server?
[03:43] <crimsonmane> google voice to yate
[03:44] <gigglefight> ActionParsnip: yup. it's a clunker. but what the system is intended for is video. i've install Debian Ubuntu based distro DreamStudio, i've considered Ubuntu options like Ubuntu Studio as well... as ... the list is definitely long.
[03:44] <almoxarife> crimsonmane: were you able to call out?
[03:44] <crimsonmane> i jsut found http://yate.null.ro/pmwiki/index.php?n=Main.ConnectingToGoogleVoice so i'll read that
[03:44] <crimsonmane> "SIP account logged in a SIP client softphone (we use YateClient here). " do i need to sign up for this or something?
[03:45] <crimsonmane> almoxarife: it doesn't appear that i can call out
[03:46] <hk007> well, i'm leaving now
[03:46] <hk007> see ya!
[03:46] <kvothetech> crimsonmane: you need for sip an incoming and an outgoing trunk i use didforsale and flowroute .
[03:47] <almoxarife> crimsonmane: calling out should work with no issue, not sure what to say
[03:47] <crimsonmane> it appears to try to dial out but it "hangs up on its own" after a few seconds.
[03:48] <almoxarife> crimsonmane: read me off your account settings from yate, let me compare to mine\
[03:48] <ActionParsnip> gigatropolis: could try non-debian based distributions to test
[03:49] <crimsonmane> all off, multiple lines checked. that's the Settings button with a wrench on it.
[03:49] <almoxarife> the actual account settings crimsonmane...
[03:50] <crimsonmane> almoxarife: although i selected "gtalk" is switched to none and made protocol to jabber ... odd
[03:50] <crimsonmane> server is talk.l.google.com
[03:50] <almoxarife> crimsonmane: resource?
[03:51] <crimsonmane> almoxarife: that is not a field
[03:51] <almoxarife> crimsonmane: you are not in the 'account' tab
[03:51] <crimsonmane> i most certainly am
[03:52] <crimsonmane> oh, under advanced
[03:52] <crimsonmane> resource: yate, port :5222
[03:52] <crimsonmane> use TLS encrypt
[03:52] <dr_willis> this reminds me. i need to find a way for the wife to dial out on a networked android tablet or phone with no sim using her google voice  account.
[03:52] <almoxarife> crimsonmane: settins > account > edit
[03:53] <almoxarife> dr_willis: there is an app
[03:53] <almoxarife> dr_willis: :)
[03:53] <crimsonmane> almoxarife: resource: yate, port 5222, use TLS
[03:53] <crimsonmane> almoxarife: and it was under "advanced" under accounts
[03:53] <dr_willis> almoxarife:  she found one called 'talkatone' i think.. but it has issues..
[03:54] <atlus> I have a WUSB54GSC linksys wifi adapter. if anyone can help me get it working...it would be awesome
[03:54] <almoxarife> crimsonmane: the panel you are looking at, first on left is what?
[03:54] <omgeek> there is one IP based  cctv , that have static ip , it giving on error "RTSP/1.0 400 Bad Request"
[03:55] <omgeek> CSeq:
[03:55] <omgeek> on ubuntu
[03:55] <omgeek> but on window it is woklring
[03:55] <omgeek> correct or on other networks
[03:55] <omgeek> can you tell me what need to do
[03:55] <crimsonmane> almoxarife: the buttons down the left: calls, call log, accounts, contacts, settings. click accounts and i get the Gtalk i set up. click edit i get across the top protocol and provider, left half i get account nickname, username@ and password, server, advanced button.
[03:55] <ActionParsnip> omgeek: tried different browsers?
[03:56] <omgeek> ActionParsnip: doing same
[03:56] <atlus> can anyone help me with my WUSB54GSC linksys wifi adapter
[03:57] <kvothetech> atlus: what about it
[03:57] <ActionParsnip> atlus: what chip does it use?
[03:57] <omgeek> ActionParsnip: it is giving same error in chromium too
[03:57] <atlus> I dont know how to check the chip and I tried to download the windows driver and use ndiswrap but didnt have any luck
[03:57] <ActionParsnip> omgeek: does it use java or flash etc?
[03:58] <atlus> I was getting a ndiswrap error?
[03:58] <omgeek> don't know
[03:58] <ActionParsnip> atlus: why> there may be a native driver
[03:58] <gigglefight> ActionParsnip: correct syntax with was without " " (quotes with space between) separating nomodeset and pci=routeirq so that "nomodeset pci=routeriq" will allow both options to work. no it boots 'okay' thanks again. i'll looking to xorg for sure.
[03:58] <atlus> how do i find that?
[03:58] <omgeek> ActionParsnip: but java and flash
[03:58] <ActionParsnip> omgeek: check in windows, then mirror in UIbuntu
[03:58] <omgeek> are alreday there
[03:58] <omgeek> ActionParsnip: okay
[03:59] <ActionParsnip> atlus: if you run:   lsusb    you will get an 8 character hex id, you can use that to find guides
[03:59] <crimsonmane> almoxarife: resource says "yate" like i told you twice... i dont suppose that's supposed to be that way?
[03:59] <onborad> Dear all,Why I have *hibernate* button ?
[03:59] <onborad> Dear all,Why I have *hibernate* button on  desktop
[03:59] <ActionParsnip> onborad: so you can hibernate if you want
[04:00] <atlus> once I have that hex id. what do I search for?
[04:00] <ActionParsnip> atlus: search the web for that ID
[04:00] <onborad> ActionParsnip:no have have *hibernate* button on desktop?
[04:00] <onborad> why
[04:00] <almoxarife> crimsonmane: resource is correct, see 'settings' ? see 'accounts'?
[04:01] <crimsonmane> almoxarife: yes those are button down the left side of the program
[04:01] <ActionParsnip> onborad: you can hibernate desktop PCs, its not only for laptops
[04:01] <GotSanity> How do you remove the window control buttons from the unity panel. Ive found plenty on how to move them to the right but I just want to move them back to the window's titlebar
[04:01] <almoxarife> crimsonmane: press 'settings' does it further have option for 'accounts'?
[04:01] <yhusha> whats going on here .... http://pastebin.com/02Z0ap8M
[04:02] <onborad> ActionParsnip: Yes, boot on PCs
[04:02] <crimsonmane> almoxarife: nope. the top half is ringer type stuff. the bottom half is "username or number, caller name, domain" for caller identity. this needs filled out?
[04:02] <onborad> ActionParsnip:no *hibernate* button show .
[04:03] <ActionParsnip> yhusha: did you MD5 test the ISO?
[04:03] <ActionParsnip> onborad: oh you are missing the hibernate button...
[04:03] <almoxarife> crimsonmane: my yate-qt interface is way different then, dont know what to tell you
[04:03] <dr_willis> GotSanity:  you disable the global menu item  i think.
[04:04] <crimsonmane> almoxarife: full-house smoke break. :) afk
[04:04] <onborad> ActionParsnip: Yes
[04:04] <macmartine> I'm deploying a Rails application with Unicorn in the Gemfile. I already have Unicorn running on the server, but I am getting this error on deploy https://gist.github.com/4221692 -- any idea how to satisfy it?
[04:05] <GotSanity> How do I remove the close/maximize buttons from the unity panel?
[04:08] <ActionParsnip> onborad: how much RAM do you have and how much swap space do you have?
[04:10] <onborad> Yes ,I have setting swapp partition 4000 MB
[04:10] <ActionParsnip> onborad: and how much RAM do you have?
[04:11] <almoxarife> dr_willis: the app you want is called 'google voice' , its the official google app, tried it, does what you wanted
[04:11] <phunyguy_t430s> I changed some folders like ~/Music and ~/Videos to symlinks to remote folders, and now they are removed for some reason from the "Computer" section in the side-panel of Nautilus.  Is there an easy way to restore that?
[04:12] <onborad> 2GiB
[04:12] <ActionParsnip> phunyguy_t430s: when you are looking at the files and folders in the place you want, add it as a bookmark
[04:13] <phunyguy_t430s> ActionParsnip, then it adds it to the Bookmarks section, not the Computer section
[04:13] <ActionParsnip> phunyguy_t430s: you can rename the bookmark if it gets a different name
[04:13] <phunyguy_t430s> looks messy
[04:13] <dr_willis> almoxarife:  problem is  you cant dial out with it from a tablet since it uses the phones dialer. also on a phone with no sim it wont dial out either.  found an app called talktone that gets around  the  issue. but the sound quality is poor
[04:13] <crimsonmane> almoxarife: it wont connect, as i notice the status bar saying" server not found"
[04:13] <dr_willis> almoxarife:  it can ring on incoming calls on her tablet ;)
[04:13] <ActionParsnip> phunyguy_t430s: how do you mean the 'computer section'?
[04:14] <phunyguy_t430s> ActionParsnip, open Nautilus
[04:14] <crimsonmane> almoxarife: can you confirm server for google talk/voice is "talk.l.google.com" ?
[04:14] <ActionParsnip> phunyguy_t430s: ok
[04:14] <phunyguy_t430s> In the left panel, there is a section labeled "Computer"
[04:14] <dr_willis> almoxarife:  unless ive totally missed a feature of the thing. ;)
[04:14] <phunyguy_t430s> THe links are missing from there, ActionParsnip
[04:14] <phunyguy_t430s> I want to put them back
[04:15] <phunyguy_t430s> if I add it as a bookmark again, it comes up under the "Bookmarks" section, and not "Computer"
[04:15] <ActionParsnip> phunyguy_t430s: not had to use that tbh, i've always used the bookmarks, also makes the bookmarked thing appear in the quik menu in the nautilus icon in the Unity launcher
[04:15] <phunyguy_t430s> I also noticed that I moved the original videos folder instead of deleting it, and it moved THAT up to Bookmarks as well, and the apps that looked in there last, followed that folder to the new location.
[04:16] <phunyguy_t430s> so it's very odd.
[04:20] <phunyguy_t430s> http://askubuntu.com/questions/132387/how-to-create-a-bookmark-under-computer-in-the-sidebar-of-the-nautilus-file-ma  <---- ActionParsnip
[04:21] <escott> phunyguy_t430s, are they still listed in ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs
[04:22] <escott> phunyguy_t430s, I believe that gnome is "smart" enough to remove the entries from user-dirs when the dir doesn't exist. which would occur momentarily when you remove the directory before adding the symlink
[04:22] <phunyguy_t430s> escott, in there they got changed to "$HOME/" with nothing after it
[04:23] <phunyguy_t430s> escott, I am curious if that will happen if the symlink becomes invalid due to network outage.
[04:23] <phunyguy_t430s> I guess we shall see
[04:23] <atlus> how can I find and install "rndis_wlan"
[04:23] <escott> phunyguy_t430s, yeah sometimes it helps to knock gnome unconscious before doing anything
[04:24] <phunyguy_t430s> About to find out, dropping the sshfs share real quick.
[04:24] <yhusha> md5 matches
[04:26] <atlus> can anyone help me install rndis_wlan for my wifi adapter :/
[04:26] <phunyguy_t430s> gonna reboot and see if it still acts up
[04:26] <phunyguy_t430s> but so far so good
[04:26] <phunyguy_t430s> brb
[04:28] <yhusha> so again the md5 matches, iso verified and its all typed right.... http://pastebin.com/02Z0ap8M
[04:29] <RickZilla> What's the best way to install a .deb file in ubuntu 12.10?
[04:29] <phunyguy_t430s> escott, it borked it.  And when I connected sshfs, the bookmarks came up but under Bookmarks instead.
[04:30] <onborad> ActionParsnip:?
[04:30] <yhusha> dpkg -i <filename>
[04:30] <bazhang> RickZilla, the package manager. installing some random debs from the internet is not a good idea
[04:30] <onborad> ActionParsnip:2GiB
[04:31] <RickZilla> bazhang: Thx, it's not a random deb
[04:31] <bazhang> RickZilla, what is it, and from where
[04:31] <RickZilla> Google play, straight from google
[04:31] <RickZilla> to upload music there
[04:31] <bazhang> from their repos then
[04:32] <phunyguy_t430s> HAH!  Just need a xdg-user-dirs-update --force in my script.
[04:32] <escott> phunyguy_t430s, you are probably thought the terminator was evil, but it was only trying to help prevent john conner from accessing a broken symlink
[04:32] <phunyguy_t430s> win.  that brought them right back
[04:34] <phunyguy_t430s> WIN!
[04:34] <phunyguy_t430s> I am happy.
[04:35] <ActionParsnip> onborad: I saw
[04:35] <phunyguy_t430s> Hmmm, Google Talk in Empathy keeps keeling over and requiring me to grant access again as well.
[04:36] <WishArt> Howdy, any way to enable "GRUB Location" tab on boot-repair? :)
[04:37] <WishArt> I read on manual we can use "GRUB Location" & "GRUB Option" but they both are grey on mine.
[04:38] <escott> onborad, you have 4GB swap and 2GiB ram?
[04:38] <WishArt> Or... anyone experienced problem with GParted on Ubuntu LiveCD 12.04?
[04:38] <onborad> escott, Yes
[04:38] <escott> onborad, what is the output of df -h
[04:38] <escott> phunyguy_t430s, yeah i ended up giving up on that entirely
[04:38] <WishArt> After tried GParted suddenly my GRUB corrupted.
[04:39] <phunyguy_t430s> escott, that good, huh?  Do you use two-level auth with Google?
[04:39] <ActionParsnip> WishArt: you can chroot to the installed OS from the liveCD and reinstate Grub
[04:39] <escott> phunyguy_t430s, bit of a mixed blessing... it uses the standard google authentication (thats nice central management at google and passwords no longer saved on disk), but google auto times that out every couple months, and oh yeah its completely broken
[04:40] <phunyguy_t430s> its more than every couple months for me
[04:40] <phunyguy_t430s> more like once a week or so
[04:40] <WishArt> There's exclamation mark on both ubuntu & swap partitions.
[04:40] <RickZilla> Man I wish I could switch to ubuntu full time
[04:40] <escott> phunyguy_t430s, thats the "its completely broken" i have no doubt that its on the google side... they are doing something to disable it, but its a real pain. especially since I dont actually *know* what my google password is
[04:41] <WishArt> Ok, I will googling it ActionParsnip, tyvm :)
[04:41] <phunyguy_t430s> doing something to disable it, as in disabling Empathy's connection?
[04:41] <escott> phunyguy_t430s, i think you can still setup an empathy account within empathy and not through online accounts
[04:42] <phunyguy_t430s> escott, I cannot
[04:42] <phunyguy_t430s> unless there is a trick
[04:42] <escott> phunyguy_t430s, yes. or to invalidate whatever cookie google gives gnome/empathy for login
[04:42] <lukavecki> is there any hacks to getting acpi working on older dell laptops?
[04:42] <lukavecki> (specifically an inspiron 2650)
[04:43] <kvothetech> lukavecki: laptop-mode-tools and stuff maybe
[04:43] <kvothetech> escott: you don't know your own password?
[04:43] <escott> kvothetech, no
[04:44] <kvothetech> lol ok odd but ok
[04:44] <escott> kvothetech, well if i could remember it, it would be too short.
[04:44] <XMLnewbi> If I was trying to set up a cron job, I have 2 .sh files; how do I go about setting them up? im on ubuntu server
[04:45] <kvothetech> escott: keypass/lastpass or whatever?
[04:45] <WishArt> Sorry ActionParship, chroot is for fixing GParted problem or activate all Boot-Repair tab?
[04:45] <kvothetech> escott: and 4 words has the entropy of a ton of random characters especially if you seperate them with punctuation
[04:46] <escott> kvothetech, password hasher just so i dont have to lug around the keys database. but yeah
[04:47] <escott> XMLnewbi, you would crontab -e and then list your scripts in the entries
[04:48] <XMLnewbi> Should i just copy and paste useing nano?
[04:49] <phunyguy_t430s> I usually use random keyboard combinations for my passwords, like a set of 4 repeated 3 times, while holding the shift key for one of the 4-key passes, and making sure a number key is included as one of the 4 keyboard keys in the set.
[04:50] <phunyguy_t430s> for example 6yhn6yhn^YHN
[04:50] <escott> XMLnewbi, no. you should call the scripts in cron. as a general rule your crontab entry should be short enough that you can run it manually outside of cron
[04:50] <phunyguy_t430s>  but that is offtopic.
[04:55] <XMLnewbi> is there  a way to just upload some php on my server with these cron jobs?      crontab -e  just keeps opening a new nano txt file  in temp
[04:55] <WishArt> Mmm... how to give root to nautilus?
[04:56] <escott> WishArt, grrrrrr... can we help you find another way to do what you need
[04:58] <sinecode_> WishArt, you should be able to launch it from terminal via 'sudo nautilus'
[04:58] <escott> XMLnewbi, and you add your line to that and save and exit
[04:58] <escott> sinecode_, WishArt NO NO NO
[04:58] <escott> sinecode_, DO NOT run gui applications with sudo
[04:58] <escott> !gksudo | sinecode_
[04:59] <sinecode_> always worked for me ^^, but cheers :D
[04:59] <WishArt> Hi escott, actually this happened while I follow tutorial to resize the swap partition using GParted, since then I can access linux partition from LiveCD.
[05:00] <WishArt> I see sinecode, then I have done it but somehow I still can see my linux partition.
[05:00] <escott> WishArt, what do you need to do with nautilus that you are unable to do. we can give you the command line commands to accomplish that
[05:01] <WishArt> Thanks escott, I need to get access to my linux partition from LiveCD
[05:01] <escott> WishArt, but why as root?
[05:02] <WishArt> Because now I can't access my linux partition escott :)
[05:02] <phunyguy_t430s> WishArt, the question was, WHY do you need access to your linux partition.
[05:02] <phunyguy_t430s> WHAT are you trying to accomplish.
[05:02] <phunyguy_t430s> the end goal.
[05:03] <WishArt> Because I need to fix GRUB file, phunyguy_t430s. Right now i can't boot to my Ubuntu.
[05:03] <escott> WishArt, you should be able to access the installed partition through nautilus without root privs. if thats not working send us the output of "mount"
[05:03] <WishArt> After using GParted.
[05:03] <escott> WishArt, you won't be able to do anything with grub through nautilus anyways
[05:03] <phunyguy_t430s> oh boy, sounds like fun.
[05:04] <WishArt> Yep I think that way too but I can't find it,escott. Do you think GParted inactivate the partition?
[05:04] <totemuegerli> those network manager changed osmethign
[05:04] <onborad> is work
[05:05] <totemuegerli> before upgrade my dhcp range was 10.42.43.0 -2555 now it changed to 10.42.0.0 range
[05:05] <escott> WishArt, what did you do with gparted. I know you were talking to AP, but I don't know what you ddi
[05:05] <totemuegerli> where can i edit those weird error
[05:05] <WishArt> escott, I resize my swap partition.
[05:05] <escott> totemuegerli, usually you get your ip via DHCP so look to your router
[05:05] <onborad> escott:4 swap , hibernate button were show .
[05:06] <lukavecki> man crontab
[05:06] <WishArt> following one tutorial on ubuntu forum, escott
[05:06] <escott> totemuegerli, before you left earlier what was the last thing you said. i had something i was going to tell you
[05:06] <totemuegerli> no
[05:06] <totemuegerli> i get my ip range over ubuntu
[05:06] <totemuegerli> my ubuntu is my router
[05:07] <escott> totemuegerli, so your dhcp server is giving out a different range. it would be in /etc/dhcpd.conf or something like that
[05:07] <Nach0z> woo linux routeres
[05:07] <Nach0z> *routers
[05:07] <onborad> ActionParsnip and escott : thanks!
[05:08] <shevnajat> hello
[05:08] <escott> WishArt, that is rather vague. but ok. do you see the ubuntu system in nautilus?
[05:08] <escott> WishArt, also not clear why resizing swap would break grub
[05:09] <WishArt> Yes I see LiveCD system, but not installed Ubuntu system.
[05:10] <WishArt> Yes I see LiveCD system, but not installed Ubuntu system, escott.
[05:11] <escott> WishArt, well start by sending the output of "sudo parted -l"
[05:11] <bulletrulz> HELP!!
[05:11] <bulletrulz> how to open terminal with keyboard
[05:13] <WishArt> Yep, the tutorial said it would be fine as well. But when I did the step GParted sent error at the end, escott. And "sudo parted -l" only give cursor here.
[05:13] <escott> WishArt, well what was that error
[05:14] <WishArt> It's like GParted failed to do the task or something.
[05:14] <ActionParsnip> bullgard6: CTRL+ALT+T
[05:14] <WishArt> It's like GParted failed to do the task or something, escott
[05:15] <WishArt> Let me try the same step to get the error message & back to you ok, escott.
[05:15] <escott> WishArt, did it fail to notify the kernel of the new table?
[05:18] <WishArt> "An error occurred while applying the operations", escott.
[05:18] <WishArt> Woow... mainteance is coming.
[05:20] <extraymond> Hi, I have a problem.
[05:20] <extraymond> Im using ubuntu 12.10 on Amd a10-5800k cpu with a dedicated graphic card.
[05:20] <extraymond> Can I switch between APU and Nvidia at login screen?
[05:21] <extraymond> It seems fglrx and nvidia driver cant coexist.
[05:21] <WishArt> "An error occurred while applying the operations", escott.
[05:21] <blackshirt> what is the best way to know total memory consumed by some application
[05:21] <escott> WishArt, thats not helpful at all
[05:22] <escott> blackshirt, thats a bit hard to calculate
[05:22] <blackshirt> escott: so, what best tool to know ?
[05:22] <escott> blackshirt, there are couple metrics listed in things like "top" or gnome-system-monitor that are relevant
[05:22] <WishArt> Yeah, sorry. The error messages don't give enough clue :(
[05:23] <WishArt> Yeah, sorry. The error messages don't give enough clue escott :(
[05:23] <escott> WishArt, if you look back through the error messages you should see others
[05:23] <WishArt> You mean there should be another error message, escott?
[05:24] <imachine> hello
[05:24] <escott> WishArt, yes
[05:24] <imachine> I have a question about Ubuntu and vserver
[05:24] <WishArt> Mmm... let me try again, escott
[05:24] <imachine> is this the place to ask or should I go to #ubuntu-server ?
[05:24] <ActionParsnip> imachine: ask in both
[05:26] <imachine> ActionParsnip: I have a debian squeeze install with 3 vservers. Can I painlessly (i.e. set up/config vservers on ubuntu server box, copy the vserver bodies from debian, start services, profit) migrate that to Ubuntu Server 12.04.* ?
[05:27] <imachine> ActionParsnip: i.e., can I run debian squeeze inside of ubuntu-12.04 server?
[05:28] <xbun2x2012`> hey anyone out there feel like helping a noob out with an old laptop??
[05:30] <xbun2x2012`> uh herro a preese
[05:30] <ActionParsnip> imachine: if the virtualization is the same, should be ok
[05:30] <ActionParsnip> xbun2x2012`: ask away
[05:33] <jx-w__> hello
[05:33] <xbun2x2012`> sweet okay i got a vid card thats not supported any more i tried the binary drivers i have xubuntu 11.04 i think precise  pangolin my card is an ati radeon x1400 mobility i haven´t loaded up linux o/s for a couple years so very novice but i understand enough to have system running and its running nice i just need a little help with  that and the built in audio system... its playing out of speakers
[05:35] <xbun2x2012`> but i cannot get the built in to work... i been trying for a week before i come here... and i remember fglrx runs the older cards but i think something to do with the coding of the new release dont support how old this thing is and it would be nice to get graphics running a little better and even a few pointers would be appreciated maybe some updates latst version os i installed was 8.04
[05:35] <xbun2x2012`> and i remember how awesome you guys are and like a challenge and u always last resort so any help would be awesome as hell
[05:36] <xbun2x2012`> i hate windows linux > all me like customizability and flexibility
[05:36] <xbun2x2012`> and freeness and would love to learn coding also :D
[05:36] <xbun2x2012`> very fast learner i am
[05:37] <xbun2x2012`> i can pull up a paste bin and give you a lspci -_-
[05:38] <ActionParsnip> xbun2x2012`: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[05:39] <xbun2x2012`> sec
[05:39] <xbun2x2012`> precise
[05:39] <xbun2x2012`> -_0
[05:40] <xbun2x2012`> quantal quetzal run really laggy so i did intall xubuntu with xfce4 cause i knew it would run faster plus its a little more minimalistic... if i could get ubuntu running with the right drivers i think it would run pretty smooth
[05:42] <imachine> ActionParsnip: vserver and vserver. maybe the vserver revision might differ.
[05:42] <xbun2x2012`> i enjoy gnome tho... nice project if i can get it working i would re-install for gnome to work i enjoy the  effects way better than anything you could ever pay for and i would love to contribute been a few years so im noob as hell but i got a general understanding of everything
[05:43] <ActionParsnip> xbun2x2012`: you can use Gnome apps in XFCE
[05:44] <xbun2x2012`> yea i know but its not the gnome desktop environment ... they both run python code right???
[05:44] <ActionParsnip> xbun2x2012`: absolutely
[05:44] <xbun2x2012`> please forgive if im wrong noob as hell been a couple years
[05:44] <xbun2x2012`> sweet
[05:44] <ActionParsnip> xbun2x2012`: what video chip do you use?
[05:45] <xbun2x2012`> ? ati radeon x1300
[05:45] <xbun2x2012`> it old
[05:45] <WishArt> escott, still get the same error message only :/
[05:46] <ActionParsnip> xbun2x2012`: i believe that will run with the open source driver
[05:46] <xbun2x2012`> this help you my friend? http://pastebin.com/RSfjRMD4
[05:47] <xbun2x2012`> yea bro i thought that but i went to play quakelive and get like 20 fps when i know vid card could so max it at 125
[05:48] <xbun2x2012`> it runs nice but when i start up something video related it just joggy and sucky
[05:49] <xbun2x2012`> sad for me propriety drivers not supported anymore :(
[05:49] <xbun2x2012`> and i dont trust alot of websites you know... dont know what you get off the net now adays
[05:50] <xbun2x2012`> lol and when i tried the old fglrx drivers screensaver didn´t even come on
[05:50] <stroodlepup> what are backports for?
[05:50] <xbun2x2012`> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
[05:51] <bobweaver> !backports
[05:52] <xbun2x2012`> this not working right only for plugged in speakers also it would be awesome get it working on this old laptop cause aside the fact of the graphics and the built in speaker systems not working they did an awesome job on the  operating systems in the past years runs great
[05:52] <atlus> anyone using live wallpaper?
[05:52] <ReAzem> Can my virt machine and the host have two diff hostnames?
[05:53] <bobweaver> atlus,  but I do hear things about it that and also  variety
[05:53] <WishArt> Is there any other recommended partition beside GParted?
[05:53] <xbun2x2012`> especially for something over 10 years old... im so waiting to get me a new device... it will most def get linux on it i no like a big a corperation they try  to sneak on you too a much
[05:53] <bobweaver> ReAzem,  yes
[05:53] <bobweaver> ReAzem,  you can dridge networks ect
[05:53] <bobweaver> bridge *
[05:53] <atlus> I tried to use the ppa to install it but it fails? I am using 12.10 not sure whats going on
[05:54] <bobweaver> atlus,  for variety or live wallpaper ?
[05:54] <atlus> live wallpaper
[05:54] <atlus> I wish it was available through the software center
[05:54] <bobweaver> atlus,  this is ppa that is on omg ?
[05:54] <ReAzem> bah... network issues >.> nobody's hostname is working on my network lol
[05:54] <atlus> yes
[05:55] <ReAzem> bobweaver, thanks. ill look into it.
[05:55] <xbun2x2012`> @atlus no but that sounds wicked if i could get the stupid old old drivers to work... my  only solution i think would be to use an old release as  proprietaryd river
[05:55] <xbun2x2012`> driver
[05:55] <bobweaver> atlus,  I just heard about live wallpaper my self not sure if I am best d-bugger for you
[05:55] <ActionParsnip> ReAzem: can you ping IPs?
[05:56] <ReAzem> ActionParsnip, for some of the devices, yes. for others, no. >.>
[05:56] <pubudu_> hi there
[05:56] <WishArt> Any partition tool on terminal, may be?
[05:56] <bobweaver> hello pubudu_  :)
[05:56] <ReAzem> ActionParsnip, they are all on the same router... no static ip setup.
[05:56] <pubudu_> im packaging a ruby application for ubuntu/debian using debuild
[05:56] <pubudu_> there's a statement like this in my Makefile under install:
[05:57] <pubudu_>  @grep -q Debian /etc/lsb-release || grep -q Ubuntu /etc/lsb-release; if [ $$? -eq 0 ]; then install -m 0755 durga-agent.init-debian /etc/init.d/durga-agentd; fi
[05:57] <bobweaver> pubudu_,  branch ?
[05:57] <bobweaver> got one ^^
[05:57] <pubudu_> but at the end /etc/init.d/durga-agentd file is not included on the .deb file
[05:58] <xbun2x2012`> ActionParsnip: so u think no hope for ancient machine???
[05:58] <pubudu_> but the file gets created in /etc/init.d when i issue a 'make install'
[05:58] <pubudu_> can somebody help me out with this please?
[05:58] <bobweaver> pubudu_,  got a branch or is it on git launchpad ect ?
[05:58] <pubudu_> hi bobweaver !
[05:59] <pubudu_> no i just got the .tar.gz file
[06:00] <bobweaver> pubudu_,  you know that you can just stick make file in debian/rules   right ?  is that how you are doing this ?
[06:00] <bobweaver> pubudu_,  this sounds to me like it is a v.long question :)
[06:00] <orlok> Does anybody know of a way to load a ufw configuration from a file?
[06:01] <orlok> load/save
[06:01] <orlok> I need to reset my ufw firewall if it deviates from a standard configuration, needs to be verified every 60 minutes
[06:01] <bobweaver> pubudu_,  just make sure that you use the ${DESTDIR} var all the time so that it installs to binary and not to local system
[06:01] <ActionParsnip> xbun2x2012`: you could upgrade the video if it is a deskop pc
[06:02] <pubudu_> bobweaver, my rules file has just this 'dh $@'
[06:02] <bobweaver> pubudu_,  cool then  so you have a Makefile at source layer.
[06:02] <pubudu_> bobweaver, indeed :)
[06:03] <bobweaver> pubudu_,  not sure that I can help unless you have a branch or something like that
[06:03] <bobweaver> pubudu_,  you are making sure that you are installing to source and not local in make file correct ?
[06:04] <pubudu_> bobweaver, i think you may be able to
[06:04] <pubudu_> bobweaver, all the install commands gets executed except the above
[06:05] <xbun2x2012`> @ActionParsnip it a laptop :(
[06:05] <xbun2x2012`> it an inspiron e1505
[06:05] <bobweaver> #!/usr/bin/make  all:  install :    cp -r source_code  $(DESTDIR)/some/place/for/end/user             instead of path that is  "some/place/for/end/user "
[06:05] <ActionParsnip> xbun2x2012`: yeah kinda thought that
[06:05] <Staiden> Im looking for an open source free alternative to cpanel, anyone have any suggestions? We wanted to use open panel but we cant get it installed on precise
[06:05] <bobweaver> like that I think pubudu_  look it up
[06:05] <xbun2x2012`> its nice the os runs fast but i know it run waaaaaaay faster >:)
[06:05] <WishArt> I got another clue while clicking information on partition, said "e2label: no such fileor directory while trying to open /dev/sda5 Couldn't find valid superblock.
[06:05] <WishArt> I got another clue while clicking information on partition, said "e2label: no such fileor directory while trying to open /dev/sda5 Couldn't find valid superblock, escott.
[06:05] <ActionParsnip> Staiden: ebax maybe
[06:06] <ActionParsnip> ebox, sorry
[06:06] <xbun2x2012`> @ActionParsnip the only thing i can think of was to use the 9.06 or something like that its close... not that good with remembering numbers... but i dont think the os support one that old
[06:06] <ActionParsnip> !ebox
[06:06] <xbun2x2012`> i can go back and try again and give you the errors i got or something
[06:07] <bobweaver> pubudu_,  you could also well ....... there is also *alot* of other things that you can choose to do . :) good luck
[06:08] <xbun2x2012`> i think something to do with x.org :(
[06:08] <bobweaver> pubudu_,  also pbuilder is one of my best friends in the whole wide world .
[06:09] <Staiden> thanks guys for the input
[06:10] <xbun2x2012`> @ActionParsnip i find this? http://www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_8.24.8.html
[06:10] <bobweaver> Staiden, I also hear good things about ISPConfig
[06:10] <bobweaver> Staiden,  but I am not ser er dude TBH tried it one or two times
[06:16] <bobweaver> anyone know anything about xsession handling ? ?
[06:17] <bobweaver> everytime that I build package of Unity and intall from my own ppa  the stupid machine errors our saying "failed to load session ubuntu"
[06:17] <bobweaver> VBox ^^
[06:18] <bobweaver> so I can not press ctrl+alt+f-whatever to get to tty to fix . and not sure why this is happening it is driving me banana's
[06:19] <bobweaver> well maybe I can in virtual box just not sure how to send keys like that it just drops to tty on host :/
[06:19] <WishArt> Nvm, I'm reinstalling the ubuntu :D I think the partitions corrupted already.
[06:21] <heoyea> bobweaver: in VBox is hostkey+alt+f1 to go to tty
[06:21] <bobweaver> Oh yeah Oo
[06:22] <bobweaver> still dont solve the mystery of the xsession bannana'a but thanks heoyea
[06:23] <bobweaver> here is my ppa
[06:23] <bobweaver> https://launchpad.net/~josephjamesmills/+archive/ubuntutv
[06:23] <agrester> Have a problem with lightdm-gtk-greeter on Xubuntu, anyone with experience in that?
[06:23] <heoyea> bobweaver: try looking at an existing session on ur machine and copy it as an example
[06:23] <heoyea> bobweaver: maybe this helps also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CustomXSession
[06:24] <bobweaver> heoyea,  yeah that was the first thing that I did and it works wonders on metal on other computer just not with  ppa
[06:24] <rocsteady> Does anyone know a command to search for the location of particular installed libraries? and their header files?
[06:24] <rocsteady> in ubuntu
[06:25] <heoyea> rocsteady: u can use apt-file
[06:25] <bobweaver> heoyea,  yeah that is what I do not get the xsession on my tv (ubuntu tv old code) works 100% and all I did was make simple package for that following sed guide
[06:26] <bobweaver> heoyea,  at 1st I though maybe it was that. then I just installed package one by one and everytime that I make package for Unity 3d or 2d this happens
[06:27] <bobweaver> maybe I missed something reading again
[06:28] <kdccb> hi friends
[06:28] <kdccb> how to connet video chating
[06:29] <JamesNZ> kdccb: Skype :P
[06:29] <kdccb> how to chat video chat in ubuntu 12.10
[06:29] <JamesNZ> kdccb: Skype not working?
[06:29] <bobweaver> kdccb,  google hangout also works well after installing plugin
[06:30] <kdccb> no james iam trying...thanks
[06:30] <frustro> trying to play a midi file from lmms to a usb midi adapter and output all 16 channels to a yamaha sound bank.  For the life of  me I cannot figure out how to get the patchbay in lack control setup.  anyone use jack and midi?
[06:31] <kdccb> skype is not there in ubuntu software centre
[06:31] <JamesNZ> kdccb: Try from skype.com
[06:31] <JamesNZ> That worked for me on Fedora :)
[06:32] <kdccb> ok i will try
[06:32] <heoyea> chatroulette
[06:33] <syberskater> sup?
[06:34] <agrester> Basically I set lightdm-gtk-greeter to have a backround=path and for some reason the background at the greeter stage has this bizarre pixelated noise and it looks like distortion...
[06:37] <syberskater> hey i got a question for one of you guys.
[06:39] <timfrost> !ask |  syberskater
[06:52] <MrTechToo> Hey
[06:52] <gustav__> I'm having really slow resolution of DNS addresses, what's going on?
[06:53] <heoyea> gustav__: u can use google or opendns
[06:54] <kvothetech> gustav__: 4.2.2.2 and 8.8.8.8
[06:54] <Magiobiwan> Google DNS is 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4
[06:55] <gustav__> Much faster...
[06:55] <ActionParsnip> gustav__: run:   echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf        is the web faster?
[06:55] <gustav__> My resolve.conf has set DNS to 127.0.0.1 but I don't know what is serving those requests? :)
[06:56] <ActionParsnip> gustav__: dnsmasq
[06:56] <Magiobiwan> Evidently you have a DNS Server on your computer...
[06:56] <gustav__> ActionParsnip: Yep.
[06:56] <ActionParsnip> gustav__: if you run the command I gave, is it better?
[06:56] <gustav__> ActionParsnip: You erased my resolv.conf. -.-"
[06:57] <gustav__> ActionParsnip: Yes, it's better.
[06:57] <ActionParsnip> gustav__: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[06:57] <gustav__> quantal.
[06:59] <syberskater> whats up??
[06:59] <ActionParsnip> gustav__: run:   echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" | sudo tee /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head        should make it stick
[06:59] <ActionParsnip> gustav__: also run:   echo "nameserver 8.8.4.4" | sudo tee /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/body
[07:00] <syberskater> hey i got a question.
[07:02] <gustav__> ActionParsnip: Done. Thanks.
[07:03] <xbun2x2012`> hey actionparsnip ... i find this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1692297 trying it out gonna see what happen
[07:03] <JamesNZ> syberskater: Just ask :)
[07:06] <whitewind> Hi everyone! I was trying to find a right place to moan about this bug, but didn`t find the right place, so you`re my last hope )) My problem is that I got 1920x1080 15" screen. So can you imagine that little fonts and buttons? Increasing font size is not helping - top panel in unity is small, icons everywhere are way to small to see them. So, my question is: what can be done here, where to ask developers to fix it. High
[07:06] <whitewind> dpi screens becoming more common, so, IMHO, it`s important. Huh, thanks ))) Feeling better )))
[07:06] <orlok> DUnno, but what sort of screen?
[07:07]  * orlok just bought a 17" widescreen laptop cos it was the only one he could find better than 1366x768
[07:07] <whitewind> Just a notebook screen, good TN+film
[07:07] <notwist> whitewind: you can change the size of icons as well, i dont't see the problem. make the fonts and icons bigger and you're set
[07:07] <orlok> what brand/model?
[07:07] <whitewind> how can i change icons in applications?
[07:07] <whitewind> It`s ASUS N56VZ
[07:08] <whitewind> I don`t know exact model
[07:08] <ActionParsnip> whitewind: set a higher lower DPI and the fonts will get bigger, or set the font size bigger in appearance
[07:08] <doug_> Anyone know of a program that lets you see where and how many bad sectors are on your hard driver?
[07:09] <whitewind> Yeah, already done it, but it is not making the panel bigger, some texts are cropped by element bounding box
[07:09] <notwist> doug_: man fsck?
[07:10] <TakeItEZ> doug_: "badblocks" from e2fsprogs package
[07:10] <heoyea> doug_: think gnome-disk-utility has a scan option
[07:11] <frankko> hi, i updated my system and now i am stuck in CLI
[07:11] <yellowdog> Hi everyone!
[07:11] <frankko> quantal
[07:12] <doug_> I tried loading badblocks but didnt know how to get it going.
[07:12] <doug_> I guess I am used to Windows where you just click on it and it starts
[07:12] <TakeItEZ> doug_: read "man badblocks" its a cli-program
[07:12] <notwist> doug_: cli-program means you run it from the terminal
[07:13] <frankko> (EE) Screen 0 deleted because of no matching config section.
[07:13] <frankko> that is the first of my three errors
[07:14] <frankko> how to purge the entire xorg and all its packages and reinstall them=
[07:14] <frankko> what packages would i have to reinstall
[07:15] <frankko> i think it is a missing dependency or something
[07:15] <_abc_> !remaster
[07:15] <_abc_> !Remaster
[07:15] <_abc_> !remastering
[07:15] <_abc_> !Remastering
[07:15] <_abc_> sigh
[07:17] <heoyea> frankko: guessing ur video drivers
[07:17] <frankko> ill reboot
[07:17] <heoyea> _abc_: remastersys ?
[07:17] <frankko> heoyea: yeah it would seem like the most logical packagem but i have tried reinstalling xorg-intel
[07:18] <frankko> ok hope this works now
[07:23] <frankko> oh darn... that did not work
[07:24] <frankko> Fatal server error: Cannot run in framebuffer mode. Please specify busIDs for all framebuffer devices
[07:25] <frankko> i do not feel like reinstalling again..
[07:27] <heoyea> frankko: dont got sperated paritions?
[07:27] <Onixs> is this the proper way to dd the ISO on a flash drive dd if=ubuntu.iso of=/dev/disk2 bs=4096 ?
[07:28] <Onixs> is this the proper way to dd the ISO on a flash drive >>   dd if=ubuntu.iso of=/dev/disk2 bs=4096 ?
[07:30] <heoyea> sure
[07:30] <heoyea> if u want a progress bar
[07:30] <heoyea> u can do
[07:30] <heoyea> dd if=linux.iso | pv | dd of=/dev/disk
[07:31] <herobubba> what would cause a wireless adapter to work one time on ubuntu then quit, but still work in windows?
[07:31] <heoyea> just make sure u install pv
[07:31] <heoyea> 1st
[07:31] <Onixs> heoyea : bs=XXXX not needed ?
[07:31] <heoyea> Onixs: not really is optional
[07:32] <Onixs> Alright then… Thanks!
[07:32] <Onixs> what does "pv" do anyway
[07:33] <TakeItEZ> Onixs: bs=4k speeds dd a bit up, bettter than default bs=512
[07:33] <frankko> this crap should be fixable somehow
[07:33] <lwizardl> does anyone know of any benchmarking software (prefer to be lightweight and bootable) that can do part testing like ram, etc
[07:34] <Onixs> so "bs=4096" same  "bs=4k" ?
[07:34] <heoyea> lwizardl: ultimate boot cd?
[07:35] <TakeItEZ> Onixs: yes
[07:35] <lwizardl> heoyea, do you know if that has a option to save the output tests ? like even if just plain text
[07:36] <heoyea> lwizardl: think so havent use it in a long time
[07:37] <frankko> hehe if this works i will lol so hard
[07:37] <frankko> i did a dpkg -i on all packages in the apt cache
[07:47] <Afroman> hello everyone
[07:47] <Afroman> :)
[07:48] <herobubba> hello
[07:48] <WXZ> how come the pidgin icon is kind of dynamic as an application launcher icon?
[07:48] <WXZ> if you rename it, and set it as an application launcher again, it will look really weird
[07:51] <Afroman> all new radio station LiquidSound RADIO Psy Psy Psy Psy Psy Psy Trence Trence Trence 90's music too -------> http://myradiostream.com/liquidsoundradio
[07:51] <TakeItEZ> Afroman: no (link-)spam here please
[07:52] <Afroman> ok :)
[07:52] <herobubba> would it be alright to ask my question again yet? there are a few more people in here now
[07:53] <WXZ> http://i48.tinypic.com/ejio06.png vs http://i49.tinypic.com/24w8sb6.png
[07:53] <WXZ> it's the same icon but in different directories, can someone explain this?
[07:54] <herobubba> sorry but i dunno
[07:55] <heoyea> WXZ: might be the window thats active gets the different icon
[07:56] <WXZ> heoyea: it's not a window, it's a custom application launcher icon
[07:57] <heoyea> WXZ: once u launch it, it uses the apps icon
[07:58] <WXZ> heoyea: no, I found out the problem from pidgin
[07:58] <WXZ> heoyea: gnome seeks out the 24x24 icon automatically
[07:58] <WXZ> and displays that instead
[07:59] <g0tcha> hey guys, ive added a second port number to my ubuntu server sshd, but i still get 'connection refused' when i try to use it
[07:59] <g0tcha> any ideas?
[07:59] <xrfang> hi, I just installed Ubuntu 12.10 on macmini, it is working fine except the wifi card does not work.   Drivers (broadcom 43xx) seems loaded (from hwinfo), but no wlan0 interface, any help pls?
[08:00] <TakeItEZ> g0tcha: did you restart sshd? did you check if it really listens there?
[08:00] <g0tcha> TakeItEZ, i restarted it and i tried to ssh to it using that port, anything else i can check?
[08:01] <TakeItEZ> g0tcha: sudo lsof -i :"portno"  on the server to check if it listens.
[08:01] <TakeItEZ> g0tcha: do you have any filtering rules on that new port active?
[08:03] <g0tcha> TakeItEZ, it gave me this "lsof: unacceptable port specification in: -i :"
[08:03] <g0tcha> TakeItEZ, the firewall is off right now if thats what you meant
[08:03] <TakeItEZ> g0tcha: sudo lsof -i :"portno"  portno= the portnumber
[08:03] <TakeItEZ> g0tcha: sudo lsof -i :22
[08:03] <TakeItEZ> g0tcha: sudo lsof -i :12345
[08:03] <TakeItEZ> whatever port you use
[08:04] <g0tcha> aah lol ok one sec
[08:04] <myhero> TakeItEZ: srry i got disconnected......TakeItEZ: hii....i tried yesterday but failed to connect laptop and mobile over wifi....guide me,,,,,i have installed openssh-server on laptop and ez file explorer on mobile....on doing ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo ssh localhost as told by you to test server it gives error ssh: connect to host localhost port 22: Connection refused
[08:05] <TakeItEZ> myhero: 1st. you don't use "sudo ssh"
[08:05] <g0tcha> TakeItEZ, yes, i see results from prt 22 bt not from my new port
[08:05] <myhero> TakeItEZ: ok
[08:05] <TakeItEZ> g0tcha: check logs why it did not bind to the alternate port
[08:05] <Argure> are you running ssh on port 22?
[08:06] <g0tcha> TakeItEZ, where are these types of logs located?
[08:06] <TakeItEZ> myhero: does sshd run/listen? "sudo lsof -i  :22"
[08:06] <myhero> TakeItEZ: ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ ssh localhost ssh: connect to host localhost port 22: Connection refused ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ localhost localhost: command not found still errors
[08:06] <g0tcha> Argure, yes, port 22 is active and i can use it, im trying to add another port so i can forward it in my router
[08:07] <TakeItEZ> g0tcha: /var/log/.... syslog or daemon.log i gues
[08:07] <TakeItEZ> s
[08:07] <Argure> what if you $ cat /etc/ssh/sshd_config ?
[08:07] <Argure> i.e., how did you bind the ports?
[08:08] <TakeItEZ> g0tcha: grep Port /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[08:08] <heoyea> myhero: should be ssh username@192.168.1.xxx
[08:08] <TakeItEZ> myhero: does sshd run/listen? "sudo lsof -i  :22"
[08:09] <TakeItEZ> myhero: and no, "ssh localhost" is fine
[08:09] <myhero> TakeItEZ: what do u want me to do ? i did sudo lsof -i :22 then nothing happening and when did sudo lsof -i then received lots of msgs
[08:09] <psychopathic> anyone here have divx movies ?
[08:10] <psychopathic> i need action
[08:10] <TakeItEZ> myhero: no output from "sudo lsof -i  :22"? then "sudo service ssh restart"
[08:11] <mudkiller> hi guys
[08:11] <myhero> TakeItEZ: http://pastebin.com/sTJXDzxU
[08:11] <Boreeas> For some reason, mouse input only registers in one window. If I for example place a terminal above it and try to highlight text in the terminal, text in the other window will be selected
[08:12] <Boreeas> Keyboard input still works fine though
[08:12] <Boreeas> Any idea why this could be?
[08:12] <gipzo> Hello guys. I have a problem. I got 3" kiosk printer NP-3512 (from Nippon Primex) and ubuntu server system. I've got all drivers for printer installed and set media size to 72x120 mm. But when I print something it is always offsetted, so on my check i have 1.4cm space, then 60mm of trimmed page and then another 0.6 space
[08:12] <myhero> TakeItEZ: ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo service ssh restart stop: Unknown job: ssh start: Unknown job: ssh
[08:12] <TakeItEZ> myhero: did you restart ssh, any errors or messages at all?
[08:12] <TakeItEZ> myhero: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[08:13] <myhero> TakeItEZ: i installed it yesterday
[08:13] <TakeItEZ> myhero: apt-cache policy openssh-server | grep -i insta
[08:14] <myhero> TakeItEZ: http://pastebin.com/hBEMKUtN
[08:15] <TakeItEZ> myhero: so you didn't install it yesterday
[08:15] <myhero> TakeItEZ: ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ apt-cache policy openssh-server | grep -i insta   Installed: 1:6.0p1-3ubuntu1.....i installed it yesterday.....
[08:16] <gipzo> And I was printing black 72x120mm rectangle... postscript file
[08:16] <TakeItEZ> myhero: according to your last pastebin: you installed it 4 minutes ago. but nvm
[08:16] <kroosec> Ubuntu 12.10, problem with X.org since yesterday's update. When I start the computer, I get an error message about running in low graphics mode that looks like this http://i.stack.imgur.com/AiwJH.png
[08:16] <myhero> TakeItEZ: terminal is open from yesterday...i didnt shut system down
[08:16] <TakeItEZ> myhero: "sudo lsof -i :22" again, it has to give output now
[08:16] <kroosec> Here is the content of /var/log/Xorg.0.log: http://pastebin.com/NY9P9rHi
[08:17] <TakeItEZ> myhero: if not, "sudo service ssh start"
[08:17] <myhero> TakeItEZ: have faith in me......its my work....and any wrong sentences will take to nowhere
[08:17] <kroosec> Any idea about this xorg problem ? I have intel graphic cards if that helps
[08:17] <myhero> TakeItEZ: take me to nowhere
[08:19] <myhero> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo lsof -i :22 ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo service ssh start start: Unknown job: ssh ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo service ssh restart stop: Unknown job: ssh start: Unknown job: ssh ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[08:19] <frankko> heoyea, It worked =D
[08:19] <frankko> im in x now
[08:19] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[08:20] <TakeItEZ> myhero:  service --status-all 2>&1 |grep ssh
[08:21] <vittorio55> ciao
[08:21] <myhero> TakeItEZ: ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ service --status-all 2>&1 | grep ssh  [ - ]  ssh
[08:21] <vittorio55> !list
[08:22] <TakeItEZ> myhero: why the heck does ssh refuse to start....    "sudo apt-get install --reinstall openssh-server"
[08:22] <almoxarife> myhero: did you install 'vsftpd' already? you want to serve up on linux and the android, correct?
[08:22] <gipzo> Where could I find people, that know somethink about CUPS+Ubuntu+Kiosk thermal printers
[08:24] <TakeItEZ> almoxarife: i'd suggest using sftp/ssh instead of vsftpd. but his ssh refuses to work...
[08:24] <myhero> TakeItEZ: http://pastebin.com/prahEKt0 and almoxarife no idint installed vsftpd...
[08:24] <myhero> *i didn't*
[08:24] <frankko> heoyea, You are the guy making youtube videos about cli apps, right?
[08:25] <myhero> heoyea: [13:38] <heoyea> myhero: should be ssh username@192.168.1.xxx ....how to look for it ?
[08:25] <TakeItEZ> myhero: sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start
[08:26] <TakeItEZ> myhero: ignore that, as long as ssh doesn't run at all, you don't need to try to connet to it
[08:26] <almoxarife> myhero: you have ufw installed and running, do you understand it?
[08:26] <TakeItEZ> myhero: and if it runs, "ssh localhost" for testing purposes it ok
[08:26] <myhero> TakeItEZ: ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start Rather than invoking init scripts through /etc/init.d, use the service(8) utility, e.g. service ssh start initctl: Unknown job: ssh  Since the script you are attempting to invoke has been converted to an Upstart job, you may also use the start(8) utility, e.g. start ssh
[08:27] <TakeItEZ> myhero: lsb_release -sc
[08:27] <myhero> almoxarife: no....
[08:27] <almoxarife> myhero: sudo service ssh start
[08:27] <myhero> TakeItEZ: quantal
[08:27] <heoyea> myhero: echo $USERNAME and ifconfig
[08:28] <myhero> almoxarife: unknown job: ssh
[08:28] <almoxarife> myhero: ufw is a firewall, you may be denying yourself incoming connections which you need if you are running a server,
[08:28] <TakeItEZ> myhero: "sudo apt-get purge openssh-server && sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get install openssh-server"
[08:28] <heoyea> frankko: i dont have any videos
[08:29] <almoxarife> TakeItEZ: all way to complicated, remove all that and install 'vsftpd'
[08:29] <TakeItEZ> almoxarife: nobody really want to setup and use ftp today ;)
[08:30] <TakeItEZ> almoxarife: and ssh is a simple and secure alternative, but his ssh seems to be broken (whyever)
[08:30] <almoxarife> myhero: ufw rules may not be seen working if you make a connection to localhost, but they will apply to connections from the network
[08:30] <myhero> TakeItEZ: http://pastebin.com/ABZM5KHM
[08:30] <MasterOfDisaster> TakeItEZ: well it hasn't reached the painlevel of the original sendmail yet...
[08:30] <almoxarife> TakeItEZ: its not ftp, its sftp
[08:30] <TakeItEZ> almoxarife: tools for android are the same, andftp/es-file-ex
[08:31] <frankko> heoyea, oh ok..
[08:31] <TakeItEZ> almoxarife: vsftpd is ftp, not sftp
[08:31] <myhero> almoxarife: ok but what to do with firewall incase its refusing connections
[08:31] <myhero> ????
[08:33] <TakeItEZ> MasterOfDisaster: well, sendmail is fine (until you have to configure it)
[08:34] <myhero> heoyea: http://pastebin.com/ce1VPGgk [13:57] <heoyea> myhero: echo $USERNAME and ifconfig
[08:34] <qkit> evening guys
[08:34] <myhero> almoxarife: TakeItEZ heoyea so now what to do ??
[08:34] <qkit> guys when i choose add printing in my ubuntu 12.04 i didnt see there is a lpd option available, was it i missing some package?
[08:34] <almoxarife> myhero: who installed ufw and why?
[08:35] <heoyea> myhero: is this the pc ur connecting to?
[08:35] <myhero> almoxarife: i didnt installed it.....if u want then i'll remove it.....tell me how ?
[08:35] <Guest82933> Come on livejasmin chat asking for them to accept bitcoin. On livejasmin: do you accept bitcoin?
[08:35] <myhero> heoyea: this is my laptop....
[08:36] <almoxarife> myhero: sudo apt-get remove ufw
[08:36] <TakeItEZ> myhero: "sudo /usr/sbin/sshd &"
[08:36] <heoyea> myhero: u need to run those commands on the pc u want to connect to to get the info
[08:36] <myhero> almoxarife: removed it
[08:37] <almoxarife> TakeItEZ: i see what you mean. its not sftpd, but what about the issue you been having with ssh?
[08:37] <almoxarife> TakeItEZ: i see what you mean. its not sftpd, but what about the issue you been having with ssh? myhero... been having
[08:37] <TakeItEZ> almoxarife: the ssh-issue is the thing to solve first
[08:37] <heoyea> myhero: and is echo $USERNAME  not just $username
[08:38] <almoxarife> myhero: sudo purge ssh* , what is listed before you commit
[08:38] <myhero> TakeItEZ: ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo /usr/sbin/sshd & [1] 13302 ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ Missing privilege separation directory: /var/run/sshd now the username is disappeared and when i hit return key then  ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo /usr/sbin/sshd & [1] 13302 ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ Missing privilege separation directory: /var/run/sshd
[08:38] <TakeItEZ> almoxarife:  see his http://pastebin.com/ABZM5KHM
[08:39] <qkit> any idea?
[08:39] <qkit> i dont have the lpd option when i try to install my network printer
[08:39] <TakeItEZ> myhero:" sudo mkdir /var/run/sshd"
[08:40] <myhero> heoyea: $USERNAME nothing returns
[08:40] <heoyea> myhero: echo
[08:40] <myhero> heoyea: just a blank line
[08:40] <heoyea> ....
[08:41] <myhero> heoyea: yea... echo $USERNAME nothing returns just a blank line
[08:41] <heoyea> myhero: try just echo $USER then
[08:42] <myhero> heoyea: command not found
[08:42] <heoyea> on ur machine that u want to ssh to
[08:42] <myhero> heoyea: sorry.....echo $USER returns ubuntu
[08:42] <almoxarife> myhero: were you already using ssh prior to wanting to share files with the droid?
[08:42] <TakeItEZ> myhero:" sudo mkdir /var/run/sshd && sudo initctrl reload-configuration"
[08:43] <myhero> almoxarife: no i installed it for the 1st time in my life yesterday
[08:43] <almoxarife> myhero: ok
[08:43] <usr13> qkit: You will have the lpr or lpd option only if your printer is set to default.
[08:43] <agostop> hello?
[08:43] <TakeItEZ> myhero: then again "sudo service ssh start && sudo lsof -i :22"
[08:43] <myhero> almoxarife: btw i have not purged as u said....do i purge it now ?
[08:43] <Pythagoras> got problems Configuring NameVirtualHost on ubuntu
[08:43] <qkit> usr13: thanks , i manage to found it. look like i need to change some setting in the printer setup path :)
[08:44] <usr13> qkit: firefox localhost:631
[08:44] <almoxarife> TakeItEZ: what to do with ufw?
[08:44] <TakeItEZ> almoxarife: nothin yet
[08:44] <myhero> almoxarife: do u want me to give that purge command ? TakeItEZ
[08:44] <almoxarife> myhero: what TakeItEZ... said
[08:45] <TakeItEZ> almoxarife: first let him get ssh running, THEN we care about that
[08:45] <almoxarife> myhero: no purge
[08:45] <myhero> almoxarife: TakeItEZ ok
[08:45] <heoyea> myhero: then u can do like ssh ubuntu@192.168.1.xxx to connect
[08:45] <TakeItEZ> myhero: once again: " sudo mkdir /var/run/sshd && sudo initctrl reload-configuration"
[08:46] <TakeItEZ> myhero: then again "sudo service ssh start && sudo lsof -i :22"
[08:46] <myhero> TakeItEZ: [14:09] <TakeItEZ> myhero:" sudo mkdir /var/run/sshd" completes and returns nothing
[08:46] <TakeItEZ> myhero: ok, go on
[08:46] <myhero> TakeItEZ: so now what ?
[08:47] <TakeItEZ> myhero: do you read what i wrote?
[08:47] <almoxarife> i hate to say it, but this is when i appreciate yast
[08:48] <TakeItEZ> almoxarife: no need for yast, the openssh-server package is buggy somehow, there is already a bug-report on launchpad
[08:48] <TakeItEZ> almoxarife: usually installing openssh-server just does all what you need
[08:48] <myhero> TakeItEZ: [14:12] <TakeItEZ> myhero:" sudo mkdir /var/run/sshd && sudo initctrl reload-configuration" cannot create directory /var/run/sshd file exists
[08:48] <almoxarife> TakeItEZ: and you are trouble-shooting it, something for the bug report :)]
[08:49] <almoxarife> TakeItEZ: yes, it was suppose to be that easy
[08:49] <TakeItEZ> myhero: then again "sudo service ssh start && sudo lsof -i :22"
[08:49] <Evil_Eric> so bord i got to watch drop zome
[08:49] <myhero> [14:13] <TakeItEZ> myhero: then again "sudo service ssh start && sudo lsof -i :22" unknown job: ssh
[08:50] <TakeItEZ> myhero: one more try " sudo rmdir /var/run/sshd && sudo initctrl reload-configuration"
[08:50] <Magiobiwan> Does Ubuntu Server have an httpd preinstalled and pre-configured?
[08:50] <TakeItEZ> myhero: does this run without errors?
[08:51] <almoxarife> myhero: are you in a private network, meaning that you trust everyone behind your router?
[08:52] <myhero> 1min plz
[08:53] <usr13> myhero: lynx -dump localhost  And see.
[08:54] <almoxarife> TakeItEZ: if he is behind a router and hes going to wifi-hot spot the connection then give sftpd a try if this does not work, the droid app can accommodate for it, and hes a happy camper for now
[08:54] <mikky> hello guys "sudo echo ON > /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch"  gives bash: /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch: Permission denied
[08:54] <almoxarife> TakeItEZ: i meant vsftpd
[08:55] <gigglefight> kinda bizarre... i've allcated 9gb to swap however, 0% is being used.
[08:55] <john__> I cant't install libsecret-1-dev which a webkit build requires
[08:55] <almoxarife> gigglefight: you may never see swap used
[08:55] <john__> Any ideas?
[08:55] <greenit> hi, i made a live-usb stick with windows. is there a way to install additional packages on the stick from the live-mode?
[08:55] <almoxarife> john__: cant means what? the error is?
[08:56] <TakeItEZ> almoxarife: well have fun, i'm not going to suggest using ftp to anyone :)
[08:56] <almoxarife> TakeItEZ: point taken
[08:56] <myhero> TakeItEZ: almoxarife srry for delay...i am back now
[08:56] <john__> almoxarife, I am using 12.04 precise it want's 12.11 quantal. It sais: unresolved dependences
[08:56] <gigglefight> almoxarife: even if i've changed it's vm.swappiness
[08:57] <almoxarife> TakeItEZ: ssh server is that buggy on ubuntu?
[08:57] <gigglefight> almoxarife: never? then why swap?
[08:57] <almoxarife> gigglefight: i fixated on the same thing, i had swappiness at 100, and got bored before i saw anything change, :)
[08:58] <almoxarife> gigglefight: sooner or later swap will be used, you wont see it
[08:58] <myhero> [14:20] <TakeItEZ> myhero: one more try " sudo rmdir /var/run/sshd && sudo initctrl reload-configuration" command not found
[08:58] <pizio> hola
[08:58] <mikky> please someone help me with my fixing switchable GPU? it makes my fan run fast and PC really hot
[08:58] <gigglefight> almoxarife: lmao. thanks. it's not all a loss though, i've done other 'tweaks' from other users. it's working a little faster. i'm kinda happy about that.
[08:59] <myhero> almoxarife: its my home network...and since we are having problem....then 1st thing is clear setup then will look for security
[08:59] <almoxarife> gigglefight: yesterday i saw it finally get used, but then the machine was trying to load 1.9 gig into memory too, it swapped, great
[09:00] <almoxarife> gigglefight: swap tweaks :)
[09:00] <TakeItEZ> myhero: did you run? " sudo rmdir /var/run/sshd && sudo initctrl reload-configuration"
[09:00] <myhero> usr13: lynx is not installed
[09:00] <gigglefight> almoxarife: yup. :)
[09:00] <TakeItEZ> myhero: did it succeed? any errors?
[09:00] <almoxarife> myhero: meaning you want to use a non secure ftp method?
[09:02] <myhero> TakeItEZ: it gave initctrl: command not found
[09:02] <TakeItEZ> myhero: sorry "sudo initctl reload-configuration"
[09:04] <myhero> TakeItEZ: u want me to write it ith rmdir command or without it ?
[09:04] <myhero> with*
[09:04] <TakeItEZ> myhero:  you should have issued the rmdir already, so without
[09:04] <myhero> invalid command
[09:05] <myhero> now i think mkdir command was with initctrl and not initctl so we should 1st do mkdir command with initctl ?
[09:05] <mikky> please someone help me with my fixing switchable GPU? it makes my fan run fast and PC really hot
[09:05] <TakeItEZ> myhero: no
[09:06] <myhero> ok
[09:06] <myhero> so now what ?
[09:06] <TakeItEZ> myhero:  "sudo initctl reload-configuration"   gives "invalid"?
[09:07] <Flannel> TakeItEZ: Before you had an 'r' in ctl
[09:07] <myhero> sorry i typed wrongly....now with correct command it completes and returns nothing
[09:07] <TakeItEZ> Flannel: yes, then i corrected my typ
[09:07] <TakeItEZ> o
[09:07] <survietamine> hello
[09:07] <TakeItEZ> myhero:  then" sudo service ssh start"
[09:08] <survietamine> i don't understand why on my ubuntu server i have same file at /usr/share/roundcube/plugins/filesystem_attachments/filesystem_attachments.php and /var/lib/roundcube/plugins/filesystem_attachments/filesystem_attachments.php
[09:08] <myhero> TakeItEZ: yes that only i was saying that we did mkdir command with initctrl and not with initctl....
[09:08] <gigglefight> other than xsensors (because the GUI is failing for some reason) any alternative recommendations?
[09:08] <myhero> TakeItEZ: ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo service ssh strart Rather than invoking init scripts through /etc/init.d, use the service(8) utility, e.g. service ssh strart  The script you are attempting to invoke has been converted to an Upstart job, but strart is not supported for Upstart jobs.
[09:09] <TakeItEZ> myhero: start not strart
[09:09] <survietamine> i understand for FHS compliance Debian/Ubuntu chosed to put files in the "right" directories, but why do i have same file at 2 locations ?
[09:09] <TakeItEZ> myhero:  " sudo service ssh start"
[09:09] <Hatori> !cherookee
[09:10] <myhero> TakeItEZ: yea i figured that out.....now something is showing to be running
[09:10] <Hatori> !find cherookee
[09:10] <TakeItEZ> myhero: sudo lsof -i  :22
[09:10] <myhero> TakeItEZ: ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo service ssh start ssh start/running, process 13560
[09:10] <Hatori> !find cherokee
[09:10] <Hatori> !find cherooke
[09:10] <myhero> TakeItEZ: ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo lsof -i :22 COMMAND   PID USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE/OFF NODE NAME sshd    13560 root    3u  IPv4 392095      0t0  TCP *:ssh (LISTEN) sshd    13560 root    4u  IPv6 392097      0t0  TCP *:ssh (LISTEN)
[09:11] <TakeItEZ> myhero: holy nicolaus, what a hard job....   now "ssh localhost"
[09:11] <myhero> TakeItEZ: hahaha yea
[09:11] <Flannel> survietamine: Without actually looking at that package, I'm going to guess that the stuff in /var/lib is a symlink, probably at filesystem_attachments/
[09:12] <myhero> TakeItEZ: i am wondering if i ever wanted to do it again then should i again scratch my back or throw my wifi out....?
[09:12] <dagerik> exuberant-ctags is not picking up my php constants. whats up with that
[09:12] <myhero> TakeItEZ: ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ ssh localhost The authenticity of host 'localhost (127.0.0.1)' can't be established. ECDSA key fingerprint is 48:15:9f:ff:36:7a:59:d0:f8:5b:1c:15:33:07:b4:28. Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)?  yes or no ?
[09:12] <TakeItEZ> myhero: once you know about this bug and know how to fiddle with it, its not hard to doit again. but it shouldn't have been this hard at all
[09:12] <TakeItEZ> myhero: "yes"
[09:13] <myhero> TakeItEZ: yes but i only acted robotic and entered line by line what u all told me to....how will i know or understand or learn this all ?
[09:13] <almoxarife> TakeItEZ: good job, you too myhero...
[09:13] <TakeItEZ> myhero: so result is: ssh runs now you can go to the android-apps and try to connect. use your username and the external IP address of your laptop to connect from android
[09:14] <TakeItEZ> myhero: do it 10-35 times again, that teaches
[09:14] <almoxarife> TakeItEZ: so what is the bug?
[09:14] <survietamine> Flannel: yes, i checked that, but it is not symlink, that's why i don't understand
[09:15] <mikky> please someone help me with my fixing switchable GPU? it makes my fan run fast and PC really hot
[09:15] <TakeItEZ> almoxarife: #1015348  sometimes the openssh-server package doesn't run the init-scripts correctlyor something like that
[09:15] <myhero> TakeItEZ: almoxarife Warning: Permanently added 'localhost' (ECDSA) to the list of known hosts. and yea i really appreciate Ur efforts feeling blessed but what about next time ? also make me learn what u all r doing coz basically what is going is u all r troubleshoooting and i am only entering commands
[09:15] <Flannel> survietamine: Well, the /var/lib one isn't in the package, so it must've been stuck there through some other means (if its not a link, I guess that means that somethign copied it there).
[09:15] <Cymew> After trying a distupgrade from 10.04.04 to the next LTS, I no longer can boot my machine. Quite bad. It looks like no grub record for the new kernel was created, and if I manually in grub say "kernel /boot/vmlinuz-yaddayadda root=/dev/sda1" it will boot, but fails later and say "mountall: Plymouth command failed" and then "mountall: disconnected from Plymouth". Any ideas?
[09:15] <survietamine> Flannel: /usr/share/roundcube/plugins/filesystem_attachments/filesystem_attachments.php
[09:16] <Flannel> survietamine: the package stops at the folder /var/lib/roundcube/plugins/filesystem_attachments/
[09:16] <TakeItEZ> myhero: don't worry, you'll learn troubleshooting yourself during the time, i bet you will have more issues in the future...
[09:16] <myhero> TakeItEZ: so is this a previously discovered bug and i m the only blessed one  ?
[09:17] <TakeItEZ> almoxarife: it hasn't "told" upstart about the presence of the new job and so it missed to create important dirs.
[09:17] <TakeItEZ> myhero: yes, you're not alone
[09:17] <myhero> TakeItEZ: more in future lol u sound scary....i came to know why ppl run away from linux :) holy wisdom
[09:17] <myhero> TakeItEZ: thats good i am not alone drowning
[09:17] <TakeItEZ> almoxarife: thats how i read that bug
[09:17] <mridul__> i am also good
[09:18] <almoxarife> TakeItEZ: got you, the geko does not have those issues :) thank god
[09:18] <TakeItEZ> myhero: have you already installed andftp?
[09:18] <TakeItEZ> almoxarife: i left the gekko after 4.2, "some time ago"
[09:18] <survietamine> Flannel: yes, that's right, i don't know who put the .php files at /var/lib...
[09:18] <almoxarife> myhero: i am assuming you will want to call in to betsy from the outside world
[09:19] <mridul__> i am feeling awesome
[09:19] <myhero> TakeItEZ: wtf* it asked for password and i hit return key....its saying coonection closed by unknown ?
[09:19] <almoxarife> TakeItEZ: i joined the geko after gnome-2
[09:19] <TakeItEZ> myhero: you have to give your users password
[09:19] <mridul__> wtf* it asked for password and i hit return key....its saying coonection closed by unknown ?
[09:19] <survietamine> Flannel: anyway i have so much pain to upgrade roundcube plugins from this old server to an new server with roundcube and plugins from sources
[09:19] <myhero> TakeItEZ: there is no password set
[09:19] <survietamine> Flannel: thanks for your help
[09:20] <myhero> almoxarife: whats betsy ?
[09:20] <TakeItEZ> myhero: you have to
[09:20] <almoxarife> myhero: my server here, sorry
[09:20] <myhero> TakeItEZ: ok so now what ?
[09:20] <TakeItEZ> myhero:  grep -i empty /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[09:20] <almoxarife> betsy.local.net :)
[09:20] <myhero> almoxarife: ohh good 4 U...my server is in blue skies :)
[09:21] <almoxarife> myhero: the user/pass is your ubuntu name and pass, you did know that
[09:21] <myhero> TakeItEZ: i did ssh localhost again and it asked for password and i entered 1234 and it says permission denied, please try again
[09:21] <almoxarife> myhero: the user/pass is your ubuntu name and pass, you did know that
[09:22] <Hatori> !apache2
[09:22] <myhero> yes
[09:22] <TakeItEZ> myhero: you have to set a password for your user before enter "passwd" into a terminal and set one
[09:22] <Hatori> !find apache2
[09:22] <Hatori> !info apache2
[09:22] <TakeItEZ> myhero: sshd by default won't allow any connections with empty passwords
[09:22] <almoxarife> TakeItEZ: whats wrong with is present user/pass? he wants into his files
[09:23] <TakeItEZ> almoxarife: "<myhero> TakeItEZ: there is no password set"
[09:23] <almoxarife> TakeItEZ: there must be, he is using sudo
[09:23] <TakeItEZ> almoxarife: oops true....
[09:24] <myhero> TakeItEZ: almoxarife some misunderstandings here.....what i have to enter ? i did ssh localhost then its asking for password.....
[09:24] <almoxarife> ooops? ooops what? what you mean all my money is gone?
[09:24] <TakeItEZ> myhero: enter your users password
[09:25] <almoxarife> your password, same as one used for sudo
[09:25] <almoxarife> your password, same as one used for sudo myhero...
[09:25] <myhero> TakeItEZ: almoxarife its asking ubuntu@localhost's password
[09:25] <TakeItEZ> myhero: so your username is "ubuntu"?
[09:25] <almoxarife> myhero: what is your login user name on the box?
[09:25] <myhero> yes
[09:25] <myhero> ubuntu@ubuntu
[09:25] <TakeItEZ> myhero: enter "ubuntu"s password
[09:26] <almoxarife> you log in with username 'ubuntu' myhero...?
[09:27] <myhero> there is no password set....when i am only hitting return key its saying permission ddenied and when i am entering ubuntu then its giving blank line...and then msg permission denied (publickey, password)
[09:28] <almoxarife> myhero: when you used 'sudo' you used a password, that is the same password you need now!
[09:29] <myhero> i never used any password
[09:29] <TakeItEZ> myhero: are you on a live-cd?
[09:29] <myhero> TakeItEZ: yes
[09:29] <almoxarife> myhero: never login to ubuntu in anyway?
[09:29] <almoxarife> livecd:)
[09:29] <TakeItEZ> myhero: that exlains a lot, even the upstart error
[09:29] <almoxarife> so this is all for like fun, myhero...
[09:30] <TakeItEZ> myhero: open a terminal, "passwd" and give password
[09:30] <myhero> TakeItEZ: almoxarife yea live-cd and i think it may have been the reason for all that errors but still its the same distro....ubuntu 12.10
[09:30] <almoxarife> myhero: yeah
[09:30] <TakeItEZ> myhero: you have to have a password to use ssh, you don't want ssh allowing empty-passwords
[09:31] <TakeItEZ> myhero: same distro yes, but works slightly different (as you see)
[09:31] <myhero> almoxarife: TakeItEZ no friends....my 2days are not for fun...really serious
[09:31] <TakeItEZ> myhero: you realize that all this is gone if you reboot, do you?
[09:32] <almoxarife> TakeItEZ: i doubt it really matters, i am thinking this was a drive by
[09:32] <Aleksander> Hello. I have a problem with my external hard drive (SATA II connected via USB 3.0) - I tried to encrypt it with Truecrypt, but creating a volume failed due to sudden electric blackout, and now every time I move more than 1 GB to it, it dismounts after round first GB. Formating and deleting MBR doesn't help.
[09:33] <myhero> TakeItEZ: yea...thatsy i am doing this...coz i will do it again and again and i will learn it....if its done in my system then nobody is going to touch this all again until and unless there is any problem and moreover doing anything on installed system is very risky god knows from when and where something bad happens
[09:34] <Cymew> I might add that I have booted a usb stick and edited my fstab to no refer to any uuids, since they seem to be broken after the upgrade, and I can access files from grub on sda1 so it seems to be ok. Any suggestions on how to go proceed?
[09:34] <myhero> almoxarife: i m serious....
[09:35] <TakeItEZ> myhero: then lets hope you took some notes, i doubt we will guide you again :) so set a passwd (i hope that works on livecd) and try again
[09:35] <almoxarife> myhero: we will be looking for good things from India Amritsar Broadband Multiplay Project , and very less than serious also
[09:35] <myhero> almoxarife: lol anyways
[09:36] <almoxarife> TakeItEZ: none of that stuck with livecd, its like a throwaway fone, when done
[09:36] <almoxarife> myhero: got your number buddy :)
[09:37] <myhero> almoxarife: :) so when r u dialing me ? i'll be more then happy to hear Ur voice
[09:37] <guest-otmFp1> hi
[09:38] <myhero> almoxarife: btw if u taking me seriously then i'll be happy to learn that also
[09:38] <almoxarife> myhero: if it sounds drone'ish dont sweat it, i always sound like that
[09:39] <myhero> almoxarife: it sounded good....i always enjoy it
[09:39] <almoxarife> myhero: yes, a real bang :) , bye
[09:40] <myhero> almoxarife: btw msg me my no., please
[09:40] <Arash> hello :)
[09:41] <Arash> what is Cups ?
[09:41] <Eagleman> When is the /tmp folder cleaned?
[09:41] <myhero> TakeItEZ: password changed....now what ?
[09:41] <almoxarife> myhero: i'll pastebin that for you, got to go
[09:41] <kostkon> Arash, the printing system of Ubuntu and Mac OS among others
[09:41] <Cymew> Eagleman: usually on reboot
[09:42] <dr_willis> !cups
[09:42] <mikky> please someone help me with my fixing switchable GPU? it makes my fan run fast and PC really hot
[09:42] <TakeItEZ> myhero: still "ssh localhost "  until you logged in succcessfully
[09:42] <myhero> almoxarife: yea sure....and when will u be online again ?
[09:42] <Eagleman> !tmp
[09:42] <Eagleman> !/tmp
[09:43] <myhero> TakeItEZ: it welcomes me into ubuntu 12.10
[09:43] <Eagleman> No interval or something?
[09:43] <TakeItEZ> myhero: so finally it works, NOW you can go to the android-part, install andftp
[09:43] <TakeItEZ> Eagleman:  grep TMP /etc/default/rcS
[09:44] <Eagleman> TMPTIME=0
[09:44] <xrfang> hi, I just installed Ubuntu 12.10 on macmini, it is working fine except the wifi card does not work.   Drivers (broadcom 43xx) seems loaded (from hwinfo), but no wlan0 interface, any help pls?
[09:44] <myhero> TakeItEZ: i have es file explorer installed ? or i should go with andftp ?
[09:44] <Eagleman> myhero whatever application supports ftp
[09:44] <srhb> Does anyone know how to enable the visual bell in gnome-terminal in 12.10?
[09:44] <TakeItEZ> myhero: es-file-ex works too
[09:44] <TakeItEZ> myhero: on your laptop "ifconfig wlan0"  to get your ip-address
[09:45] <myhero> TakeItEZ: ok so i m on mobile es file explorer...
[09:45] <TakeItEZ> myhero: first on your laptop "ifconfig wlan0"  to get your ip-address, you need this
[09:45] <myhero> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ ifconfig wlan0 wlan0     Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:1c:bf:b5:04:8f             inet addr:192.168.1.2  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0           inet6 addr: fe80::21c:bfff:feb5:48f/64 Scope:Link           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1           RX packets:63771 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0           TX packets:64600 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0           collisions:0 t
[09:46] <Eagleman> TakeItEZ its a server so there are almost no reboots
[09:46] <almoxarife> :)
[09:47] <TakeItEZ> myhero: sorry got disconnected
[09:47] <Eagleman> TakeItEZ its a server so there are almost no reboots :P
[09:47] <myhero> TakeItEZ: ohh no man dont be sorry to me.....u r doing all the hardwork for me....if anyone has to be sorry then its me for utilizing ur time without any pay
[09:48] <TakeItEZ_> myhero: in es-file-ex, you see "local" at the top? press there and switch to "ftp"
[09:48] <myhero> TakeItEZ_: yes
[09:48] <myhero> there are ftp and other options
[09:48] <mikky> please i need help with my cpu getting too hot and battery runs down fast am using ubuntu 12.04lts on HP evny 64 bit  anyone have an idea please help
[09:49] <TakeItEZ_> myhero: then "new" "sftp"
[09:49] <TakeItEZ_> myhero: then "new" -> ftp ->"sftp"
[09:49] <myhero> TakeItEZ_: there is no new option ?
[09:50] <Tin> good morning all
[09:50] <guest-otmFp1> I have a big problem =( I tried to connect an external display to my laptop by enabling it on the display settings but the display wasn't detected there so I used the nvidia xserver settings and set the "separate x screen" setting wich requires an x server restart (I now know that what I wanted was the "twinview" setting) , so I restarted my pc and couldn't login to my user account anymore, I am currently
[09:50] <guest-otmFp1> loged in as guest. How can I put everything back to how it was?
[09:50] <myhero> there are local lan ftp bluetooth and net options only
[09:50] <TakeItEZ_> myhero:  press menu-button, "new"
[09:50] <myhero> TakeItEZ_: there are local lan ftp bluetooth and net options only
[09:50] <SaEeDIRHA> hey , i have set static ip address on /etc/network/interface file , but it does not define nameserver on resolv.conf file , so everytime i reboot the system i cannot connect to internet
[09:51] <TakeItEZ_> myhero: "ftp" then  press menu-button, "new"
[09:51] <SaEeDIRHA> how can i solve this problem ?
[09:51] <Guest24258> I don't know if this is the best place to dump bugs, but it seems that Ubuntu 12.10 has issues when a wireless network key contains 26 numbers
[09:51] <myhero> TakeItEZ_: yes...now its asking for entering details.....
[09:53] <takeitez> myhero: sorry got disconnected again
[09:53] <takeitez> myhero: networkpath 192.168.1.2, port 22 (default), username ubuntu, password "ubuntu" password you already used for ssh localhost
[09:54] <guest-otmFp1> I have a big problem =( I tried to connect an external display to my laptop by enabling it on the display settings but the display wasn't detected there so I used the nvidia xserver settings and set the "separate x screen" setting wich requires an x server restart (I now know that what I wanted was the "twinview" setting) , so I restarted my pc and couldn't login to my user account anymore, I am currently
[09:54] <guest-otmFp1> loged in as guest. How can I put everything back to how it was? Please help. thankyou
[09:54] <takeitez> myhero: err*  password is "ubuntu"s password , which you already used for ssh localhost
[09:54] <myhero> takeitez: ok no problem and mate i said dont tell me sorry...i feel like too much when U r doing so much for me...
[09:57] <myhero> takeitez: i think for server address U r saying to use 192.168.1.2 and port default 22, username- ubuntu and password which i set to 12345678 in unix password ?
[09:59] <takeitez> myhero: correct
[10:00] <myhero> takeitez: it says error cannot find SFTP(192.168.1.2) server:java.net.ConnectExceptions:/192.168.1.2:22 - Network is unreachable
[10:01] <MaxFrames> hello
[10:01] <myhero> takeitez: there is encoding and display option also....which i have not touched....
[10:01] <almoxarife> takeitez: ufw, remember?
[10:01] <myhero> almoxarife: lol :)
[10:01] <mikky> please i need help with my cpu getting too hot and battery runs down fast am using ubuntu 12.04lts on HP evny 64 bit  anyone have an idea please help
[10:01] <MaxFrames> I am connecting to a 12.04 box from a windows 7 box via rdp, the ubuntu box has xrdp installed for this. the problem is that I cannot share the clipboard between the two machines. any suggestion?
[10:02] <takeitez> almoxarife: thats when YOU come in this story :)
[10:02] <mikky> don't people use HP envy here ? seems no one know how to fix hot pc caused by Ubuntu
[10:02] <takeitez> almoxarife: is ufw enabled by default on livecd?
[10:03] <almoxarife> takeitez: why would livecd have ufw installed by default?
[10:03] <almoxarife> :)
[10:03] <almoxarife> yes!, no!
[10:03] <takeitez> almoxarife: don't ask me, i don't use it
[10:04] <takeitez> myhero: but your android phone is in the same wifi-network as your laptop?
[10:04] <myhero> almoxarife: u said to remove ufw remember and i removed it....tell me command to check if it exists now or not... takeitez
[10:04] <takeitez> myhero: i'd try for test: sudo ufw stop
[10:05] <takeitez> myhero: ah no, it is " sudo ufw disable"
[10:06] <almoxarife> takeitez: ufw is not on there by default according to ubuntu docs
[10:06] <myhero> takeitez: i think currently i m connected to net on my laptop with u all and wifi connects to only single network at a time...
[10:06] <almoxarife> takeitez: yeah, the hot-spot thing
[10:06] <myhero> almoxarife: i removed it as u told before.....tell the command to check if it exists....
[10:07] <almoxarife> myhero: if you removed it then its not there
[10:07] <myhero> almoxarife: takeitez sudo ufw disable....command not found
[10:07] <m000gle> I installed the experimantal-310 nVidia drivers, today, using the Software Sources Additional Drivers tab, but upon reinstallation neither Unity nor Gnome-Shell will open.  The former shows a blank screen, displaying only the wallpaper but no panel/launcher/icons; while the latter simply reverts to fallback mode.
[10:08] <m000gle> Using Cinnamon, however, works fine, so the driver itself is clearly functioning ... Does anyone know how to fix this?
[10:08] <guest-otmFp1> I have a big problem =( I tried to connect an external display to my laptop by enabling it on the display settings but the display wasn't detected there so I used the nvidia xserver settings and set the "separate x screen" setting wich requires an x server restart (I now know that what I wanted was the "twinview" setting) , so I restarted my pc and couldn't login to my user account anymore, I am currently
[10:08] <guest-otmFp1> loged in as guest. How can I put everything back to how it was? Please help. thankyou
[10:08] <almoxarife> myhero: you would need to have the tele connected to the lappy to verify ssh is working via network connection
[10:08] <MaxFrames> is this really the (sad) answer to my issue? please confirm http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2043102
[10:09] <myhero> almoxarife: takeitez then i'll have to disconnect to net and irc chat....so tell me future commands i'll take note and apply then will return with results
[10:09] <almoxarife> MaxFrames: i am sad too
[10:10] <MaxFrames> almoxarife: I am not. The answer is, if it's correct. Is it?
[10:10] <almoxarife> myhero: the next steps are all droid, setup a client ssh to connect to user@ip
[10:11] <almoxarife> MaxFrames: seems so, still, you can vnc with clipboard
[10:11] <myhero> almoxarife: how ? takeitez told me to enter address username password port on es file explorer....
[10:12] <almoxarife> myhero: ok, that works too, or just open 'terminal' on droid to test
[10:12] <grek1> hy i have problem witch this
[10:12] <grek1> http://wklej.to/5yKVU
[10:13] <almoxarife> MaxFrames: or 'teamviewer'
[10:15] <Erin> anyone here use mpd ?
[10:15] <myhero> almoxarife: TakeItEZ_ ok....i m disconnecting to connect laptop to droid....hope everything goes well
[10:19] <MaxFrames> I have followed this document to change hostname in ubuntu: http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/05/windows-7-vs-ubuntu-12-04-how-to-change-your-computer-name/
[10:20] <MaxFrames> after that, every time I sudo I get a "sudo: unable to resolve host [old hostname]"
[10:20] <TakeItEZ> !hostname | MaxFrames
[10:20] <grek1> i cant install phpize on ubuntu any can help ? http://wklej.to/5yKVU
[10:20] <MaxFrames> splendid... I have found a flawed howto :(
[10:21] <Walther> Is there support for adding more than 2x2 virtual desktops anymore?
[10:22] <Walther> without installing some hacky tweaking app that breaks half of your DE
[10:22] <grek1> ok i found - this help sudo apt-get install php-pear php5-dev apache2-threaded-dev build-essential
[10:22] <MaxFrames> TakeItEZ: so I have to keep the old hostname in /etc/hosts forever?
[10:23] <myhero> almoxarife: TakeItEZ still the same error.......
[10:23] <TakeItEZ> MaxFrames: no, just until you finished editing /etc/hostname
[10:23] <TakeItEZ> MaxFrames: best to leave it until next reboot, to check all went ok
[10:24] <Bothos> i'm trying to install wine via terminal. after this sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa which works but then when i try sudo apt-get update it seems be working then says "unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/)" any suggestions?
[10:24] <TakeItEZ> myhero: you might ask in #android about that issue
[10:24] <emissar> hi
[10:26] <myhero> TakeItEZ: almoxarife it says Error, cannot find the SFTP(192.168.1.2) server:java.net.ConnectException:/192.168.1.2:22 - Network is unreachable
[10:27] <myhero> TakeItEZ: ohh come on...so much of hardwork...and U r letting it go on the last step :(
[10:28] <TakeItEZ> myhero: i'm not very good in troubleshooting android
[10:28] <lionknpeistee> hello
[10:28] <myhero> TakeItEZ: hmm try...i m sure U'll hit it hard....like until now almox
[10:28] <TakeItEZ> myhero: you connected your laptops-wifi to the wifi-hotspot on your android-phone, right?
[10:28] <myhero> almoxarife: ??
[10:29] <MaxFrames> TakeItEZ: thanks
[10:29] <SurlyCat> meeooww
[10:29] <lionknpeistee> hhh j'ai rien compris
[10:29] <myhero> TakeItEZ: i turned on droid wifi and enabled hotsopt oen to all meaning no password and then it was shown in laptop and when i clicked it, it got connected.....
[10:30] <myhero> open*
[10:30] <nkls_> i need help to burn iso image on usb?
[10:31] <lionknpeistee> same problem brother
[10:31] <lionknpeistee> :(
[10:31] <almoxarife> can you ping 192.168.1.2:22 from the droid? myhero...
[10:31] <myhero> nkls_: lionknpeistee just dd the image
[10:31] <lionknpeistee> when i turn on my Pc
[10:32] <nkls_> myhero, my mistake.... can you tell me address of linux mint chat room. i want to burn linux mint 14 on usb?
[10:32] <lionknpeistee> Usb must be executed  but doesn't
[10:32] <myhero> almoxarife: how to ping from droid ? there is no terminal in it....its 2.3.6
[10:32] <almoxarife> myhero: see, you gave him an answer that required one to know 'dd' , :)
[10:32] <almoxarife> myhero: yeah, there is or add it,
[10:32] <TakeItEZ> myhero: well, sounds as the wifi-connection isn't bridged through the phone. my only idea is to install sshdroid(pro) on the phone, and connect via sftp from laptop then (that definetly works on gingerbread on my ideapad a1)
[10:33] <myhero> almoxarife: hmm i understand U, i also asked the same question once and someone suggested dd....and this is how i learned it......if he will manpage or search then he will learn more then anyone telling him
[10:33] <almoxarife> TakeItEZ: he does not have a listening sftpd on the lappy either, or does ssh take care of that?
[10:33] <TakeItEZ> almoxarife: sftp is handled by ssh
[10:34] <TakeItEZ> grep -i sftp /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[10:34] <TakeItEZ> Subsystem sftp /usr/lib/openssh/sftp-server
[10:34] <nkls_> i need also help to connect on linuxmint irc?
[10:34] <almoxarife> myhero: manpage sftpd and ssh
[10:34] <myhero> almoxarife: TakeItEZ plz explain ur convos so as to make them understandable to me also :)
[10:35] <almoxarife> nkls_: mint? #mint ?
[10:35] <nkls_> yes, can you help me?
[10:35] <TakeItEZ> myhero: nope, we let you sit in the dark, thats our mighty magic :)
[10:36] <dr_willis> !mint
[10:36] <almoxarife> nkls_: no, i dont mint
[10:36] <myhero> TakeItEZ: :) i hope that would be intentional and will only be done keeping in mind me learning more
[10:36] <bobymcguyer> Hey folks!
[10:36] <almoxarife> myhero: what about the dude that needs help with 'dd'??? going to help?
[10:36] <TakeItEZ> myhero: as i said, if your phone has no access to the subnet the hotspot uses, you cannot access yur laptop this way. so alternate way would be to install a ssh-server (sshdroid) on the phone and access it from laptop
[10:37] <myhero> almoxarife: yea sure....i'll try to help as much as i can
[10:37] <bobymcguyer> I got an issue with my ubuntu 10.04 , It get stuck after the splash screen "ubuntu 10.04" and say "loading, please wait"  grub is loading without problem
[10:37] <TakeItEZ> myhero: that works for me, using my laptop and an android tablet with gingerbread (2.3.6)
[10:38] <bobymcguyer> my last action was an upgrade and it dpkg failed
[10:38] <bobymcguyer> any idea?
[10:38] <MaxFrames> TakeItEZ: unfortunately it did not work. If I remove the old hostname from /etc/hosts, also after multiple reboots, it still gives the sudo error
[10:38] <Karlo_> I've finally got 12.04 started here.  It comes up with one panel at the top of the screen (Applications; Places; (gap); mailbox; clock; etc), and another at the bottom (window list; (gap); workspace list).  I'd like to have everything on one panel, at the bottom, and I'd like it to be twice as wide.  How do I change this?
[10:38] <myhero> TakeItEZ: well now enabling hotspot on droid shows connected on laptop....now what ?
[10:38] <MaxFrames> so what is the correct way to change hostname permanently?
[10:38] <TakeItEZ> MaxFrames: but you have the new hostname in /etc/hostname?
[10:38] <almoxarife> TakeItEZ: i installed sftpd on the lappy and used the droid to talk to it, fish even, but that was via geko, he must be using the same subnet, you are arent you myhero...?
[10:38] <MaxFrames> TakeItEZ: yes, and only that
[10:39] <myhero> TakeItEZ: openssh-server is installed on laptop and es file explorer on droid....and where is terminal on droid....how to access it ?
[10:39] <almoxarife> myhero: install it
[10:39] <dr_willis> use a ssh client like connectbot or andftp
[10:40] <myhero> almoxarife: who told i m an hero.....i just try and rest depends on future :)
[10:40] <almoxarife> dr_willis: he cant connect , net issues, it seems
[10:40] <TakeItEZ> almoxarife: that works on my tabled and my phone too, but obviously not at myheros phone
[10:41] <myhero> TakeItEZ: ginger has terminal inbuilt or should i install it as almoxarife says ?
[10:41] <TakeItEZ> myhero: depends on your phone, i guess you have to install it
[10:41] <dr_willis> Karlo_: gnomes fallback mode is not very configurable. you may want to use a dock like awn.
[10:41] <almoxarife> myhero: you have terminal? dont install another then
[10:41] <myhero> TakeItEZ: but ginger is ginger whether mobile or tablet...isnit it ?
[10:41] <TakeItEZ> MaxFrames: that shouldn't happen, sorry no idea where to look
[10:42] <myhero> TakeItEZ: almoxarife i don't know....how to check if its pre-installed ?
[10:42] <TakeItEZ> myhero: no its not, the phone/tablet manufacturers have different stuff installed
[10:42] <dr_willis> !dock | Karlo_
[10:42] <almoxarife> myhero: on the droid? are you kidding?
[10:42] <oko> k
[10:42] <Hatori> !info jupiter
[10:42] <TakeItEZ> myhero: my lenovo came with aa lot of different things than my htc-phone
[10:42] <Hatori> !find jupiter
[10:43] <myhero> TakeItEZ: yea....but thats for themes and apps and not for droid itself....
[10:43] <TakeItEZ> myhero: those ARE apps
[10:43] <roland_> Have you any time for Unity Q+A?
[10:43] <slashbeast> Yo, can any of you be so kind and send me ubuntu's /etc/acpi/ dir? I have very limited time and I dont have option to install it to extract this dir
[10:43] <myhero> TakeItEZ: ok
[10:44] <lhavelund> roland_: State your question instead -- the more specific you are, the easier it is to assist you.
[10:44] <guest-wI0zbq> hi guys, I screwd my system. I pluged an external monitor and tried to enable the "separate x screen" setting instead of the "twinview" setting on the nvidia x server panel. Then I rebooted the system and couldn't login anymore. Now I am logged as a guest, I tried to "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" but it didn't help, how can I get things back working? thanks
[10:45] <TakeItEZ> MaxFrames: "grep $(hostname) /etc/hosts"
[10:45] <MaxFrames> TakeItEZ: how do I make sure, anyway, of the current hostname, besides looking in the file?
[10:45] <TakeItEZ> MaxFrames: command "hostname"
[10:45] <Hatori> run hostname
[10:46] <MaxFrames> ok, hostname says that I'm still on the old name
[10:47] <slashbeast> anyone? Simple tar /etc/acpi/ will do.
[10:47] <MaxFrames> despite filling in the new one in /etc/hostname
[10:47] <MaxFrames> perhaps /etc/hostname does not work in 12.04?
[10:47] <TakeItEZ> MaxFrames: it does here
[10:48] <MaxFrames> so to recap: I have both names in /etc/hosts (otherwise I'd get the error) and I have just the new one on /etc/hostname; the "hostname" command answers with the old hostname
[10:48] <TakeItEZ> MaxFrames: after a reboot?
[10:49] <MaxFrames> yes
[10:49] <Eagleman> How do i recursivly do touch -d "2012-11-8" TV\ Series/* to all files and folders?
[10:49] <MaxFrames> if I do "sudo hostname [new hostname]", afterwards "hostname" returns the new name
[10:49] <TandyUK> MaxFrames: Make sure your new hostname is the first entry after the ip in /etc/hosts
[10:50] <TandyUK> and are you using a valid FQDN that resolves properly with dns?
[10:50] <MaxFrames> ok, it was the second entry
[10:50] <dr_willis> guest-wI0zbq:  login at console. rename the /etc/X11/xorg.conf   tgen restart x server.
[10:50] <TakeItEZ> Eagleman: find TV\ Series/ -exec touch -d "2012-11-8" "{}" \;
[10:50] <Karlo_> Eagleman: First do   touch --help   to see if it has an option for recursive touch.  If not, then: find TV\ Series/* -print0 | xargs -0 touch -d 2012-11-08
[10:50] <co_charm> hi all , need a help with lightdm. i want to limit remote session to user x
[10:51] <epic> my maven 3.0.4 installed in ubuntu server 12.10 is defaulting to maven compiler plugin version 2.0.2, which is _really_ old, i dont understand why, now i notice that you have a package for that (libmaven-compiler-plugin-java, which is not installed on my system) which is also version 2.0.2, i cannot help but feel there is a connection
[10:51] <mote> What is it that goes wrong when my laptop cannot wake up after suspend. have to remove batt.
[10:51] <co_charm> how can i do tht
[10:51] <guest-wI0zbq> dr_willis: thank you! i'll try that
[10:51] <dr_willis> co_charm:  what kind of remote do you mean.
[10:52] <co_charm> dr_willis: vnc session
[10:52] <jrib> epic: so you have the "maven" package installed from the repositories?  I don't know anything about maven, how do you call it?
[10:53] <dr_willis> co_charm:  you dont have to have lightdm appear on a vnc server.   it can  be configured to just run a desktop
[10:53] <Cymew> repost: After trying a distupgrade from 10.04.04 to the next LTS, I no longer can boot my machine. Quite bad. It looks like no grub record for the new kernel was created, and if I manually in grub say "kernel /boot/vmlinuz-yaddayadda root=/dev/sda1" it will boot, but fails later and say "mountall: Plymouth command failed" and then "mountall: disconnected from Plymouth". Any ideas?
[10:54] <Karlo_> My sister set up this desktop for me, and when I finally got it to boot, I got found myself logged in under my own name running the standard GUI for the system.  I need to do some maintenance, but sudo prompts for a password, and I don't know what it is.  (a) Can I get to root from here?  (b) Why did it automatically login as me, without prompting for a password?
[10:54] <epic> jrib: yeah from the repositories
[10:54] <co_charm> dr_willis: no prblm with my Xvnc , i just want to limit user x login session
[10:54] <dr_willis> Karlo_:  she set it to autologin.
[10:54] <jrib> epic:I don't know anything about maven, how do you call/run it?
[10:55] <MaxFrames> it's working now after a reboot. not sure if the problem was having the old hostname before the new one in the hosts file, or not having issued the "hostname [newname]" command
[10:55] <epic> "mvn"
[10:55] <epic> jrib: "mvn"
[10:56] <MaxFrames> either way, changing the hostname turned out to be surprisingly involved
[10:56] <jrib> epic: what is the output of « which mvn »?
[10:56] <dr_willis> Karlo_:  tried your users password for sudo?
[10:56] <Karlo_> dr_willis: I don't know what password she gave me.
[10:56] <dr_willis> ask her.. i guess.
[10:57] <co_charm> hm.... i guest no one knows tht ubuntu used lightdm now rather than kdm/gdm
[10:57] <Cymew> Karlo_: If you are logged in automatically, change the password...
[10:57] <Karlo_> Cymew: I don't know a way to change the password without knowing the old one.
[10:57] <dr_willis> co_charm:  its been lightdm for some time now.
[10:58] <Cymew> Karlo_: right, I read back up now
[10:58] <epic> jrib: /usr/bin/mvn
[10:58] <co_charm>  Karlo_: just kill the autologin hehe.. seriusly
[10:58] <Cymew> So, you have physical access? Start in single user mode and get in that way
[10:58] <dr_willis> last 3 releases i think. lightdm has been the default
[10:58] <jrib> epic: readlink /usr/bin/mvn
[10:58] <co_charm> dr_willis: yeahh.. you rite
[10:58] <Karlo_> dr_willis: That'll have to wait until tomorrow, I'm afraid...  Not because of the late hour (3am here), but because she's currently angry at me, somehow thinking that I could have gotten the system to boot hours ago, if only I'd cooperated with what she was telling me.  :-/
[10:59] <co_charm> dr_willis: its a bit confusing me
[10:59] <epic> /etc/alternatives/mvn
[10:59] <dr_willis> co_charm:  you can install gdm uf you want
[10:59] <jrib> epic: sudo update-alternatives --config mvn
[10:59] <Eagleman> it worked TakeItEZ
[10:59] <co_charm> dr_willis: all i need is to limit the Mr.X login session
[11:00] <nrdb> I am having recent trouble get thunderbird to log into the pop3 email server... :-( ... it appears to be related to thunderbird base64 encoding the name & password ... can this be stoped?
[11:00] <epic> jrib: no alternatives, but I will have to go, bb in 20
[11:00] <dr_willis> co_charm: never noticed that in any of the xDM proframs
[11:02] <co_charm> dr_willis: actually there is.. , in gdm
[11:02] <co_charm> dr_willis:  i can limit the remote session in xdmcp
[11:05] <dr_willis> xdmcp is different than vnc last i looked. ;-)   xdncp is disabled in lightdn also i belive.. its  old sckool. :-P
[11:07] <dr_willis> bbl. heading out.
[11:07] <hugosthlm> I get a crash in cairo-dock. Ubuntu 12.10. Disabled Unity in CCSM. Started cairo-dock in autostart. It crashes when I click the stop icon, which should give menu of logout options. A new cairo dock process is spawned. Repeat and sooner or later it starts working and you get the menu.  http://pastebin.com/YCpwR36m Any ideas ?
[11:10] <co_charm> dr_willis:  i never talk xdmcp with vnc
[11:10] <co_charm> dr_willis:  i know it use rdp
[11:11] <grumper> hi there
[11:11] <co_charm> dr_willis: back to my prblm , any help pls
[11:12] <fas> Hey guys, I ran into a big problem. I accidentally removed my account from the sudoers file by uncommenting the admin group. Then I tried to boot into grub so I could enter recovery but I got "hd0: read error". Next I tried booting the CD and entering recovery. Unfortunately spawning the shell didn't help me. Suggestions?
[11:12] <Karlo_> fas: Why didn't spawning a shell help you?
[11:13] <fas> None of the commands I tried worked.
[11:13] <fas> Karlo, what commands would I use to fix this problem?
[11:13] <fas> I tried to reinstall grub but it couldn't do that either.
[11:13] <Karlo_> fas: You mean the command isn't found, or you can't find one to do what you need?
[11:14] <fas> Command isn't found
[11:14] <MaxFrames> anyone familiar with likewise-open? what happens when the active directory password has expired, is the ubuntu user asked for a new password or will he just be unable to login until he changes the password on a windows box?
[11:14] <grumper> I want to install firebird preconfigured on ubuntu (the travis-ci instances)
[11:14] <co_charm> fas : cnf ??
[11:14] <grumper> http://paste.scsys.co.uk/217118 is what I am doing, but the server is left unconfigured
[11:14] <Karlo_> fas: I suppose I would make sure the disks are mounted, then I would edit the sudoers file with "ed".
[11:14] <grumper> what am I doing wrong?
[11:15] <Karlo_> Maybe I should do something equivalent to get my password changed...
[11:15] <jrib> Karlo_: ed... really?
[11:15] <fas> Ok, just a second.
[11:15] <jrib> fas: I would advise using a more straightforward editor like gedit or nano unless you are very familiar with ed
[11:16] <Karlo_> jrib: It's a program that I would fully expect to be available from maintenance mode.
[11:17] <Karlo_> And it's not particularly hard to use.  LINENUMs/OLD/NEW/ is probably all you need to know, together with w and q to write and quit.
[11:17] <guest-eOdZyk> hi guys, I am trying to fix my x server, I booted in recovery mode and tried to mv xorg.conf xorg2.conf but it returned that that is a read only file system. How do I solve this? thanks
[11:18] <ricardo2256> hi
[11:18] <ricardo2256> I need to mount an idle partition. how to do it?
[11:18] <fas> karlo_, in rescue mode, while trying to mount sda1, I get an error it can't be mounted
[11:19] <fas> It's in a raid 5 array
[11:19] <fas> is there anything special I need to do?
[11:19] <jrib> Karlo_: sure, but nano is bound to be more straightforward
[11:19] <Karlo_> guest-eOdZyk: You probably need to remount the root file system to be writable -- I've had to do that several times, but the command is in my shell history where I can't get at it right now, so I can't quote the details.
[11:19] <co_charm> ricardo2256: mount -t /dev/sdX  /ohhyess
[11:19] <wdp> Karlo_, mount -o remount,rw /
[11:19] <wdp> Karlo_, pretty simple actually :p
[11:19] <ricardo2256> co_charm: is that all?
[11:19] <guest-eOdZyk> Karlo_: hum ok :(
[11:20] <Karlo_> Fine, so where I said "ed", make it "the editor of your choice".  I personally would use "ed".
[11:20] <Karlo_> Hell, I'd do it with "cat" if I didn't think I could trust "ed".
[11:20] <co_charm> ricardo2256: create ohyess directory for mounting place , and /dev/sdX  carefull with the X
[11:21] <manjunath> hi
[11:21] <manjunath> hi
[11:21] <soee> hi, what would be command to replace some string with other ?
[11:21] <aahmedak> sed
[11:21] <wdp> echo "some string" | sed 's_some string_other_g'
[11:22] <jrib> soee: sed 's/old/new/g' ... pass "-i" if you want it to actually edit the file
[11:22] <ricardo2256> co_charm: I am going to star opensuse. could you give 2 min?
[11:22] <co_charm> ricardo2256: this is ubuntu dude :)
[11:22] <soee> jrib, ok thank you
[11:22] <Karlo_> soee: You may need to explain more clearly what you want to do, if the answers so far haven't helped you.
[11:22] <gj> well how to install realtek sound driver ...
[11:23] <soee> i just want to replace in several files string like: myString with newString
[11:23] <soee> thats all
[11:24] <Karlo_> soee: Several methods.  for i in $*; do echo s/myString/newString/ | ed - $i; done
[11:24] <guest-eOdZyk> hi guys, I am trying to fix my x server, I booted in recovery mode and tried to mv xorg.conf xorg2.conf but it returned that that is a read only file system. How do I solve this? thanks
[11:24] <jrib> guest-eOdZyk: mount -o remount,rw /
[11:24] <fas> Karlo, what do I need to mount. sda or sda1?
[11:24] <Karlo_> for i in $*; do mv $i $i.bak && sed 's/myString/newString/g' <$i.bak >$i; done # here's a second way
[11:25] <gj> Hi I have no more sound coming up from my soundcard is realtek driver the solution ?
[11:25] <wdp> Karlo_, useless use of mv.
[11:25] <wdp> Karlo_, take a look at sed's -i option.
[11:25] <wdp> l
[11:25] <wdp> :-)
[11:26] <Erin> jrib, he needs sudo for that though right ;-p
[11:27] <jrib> Erin: he's in recovery mode
[11:27] <Karlo_> I'm not really sure why it was necessary to take sed, which was essentially designed by turning ed from a file editor into a stream editor, and then add an option to turn it back into a file editor.
[11:27] <Erin> ahh thats root?
[11:28] <Deivid> Hi, is there any irc channel related to xserver-xorg-input-synaptics?
[11:28] <Karlo_> But anyway...  the template I provided shows how to do it for the more general case where the tool in question doesn't have the equivalent option.  (Including older versions of sed, should you ever encounter one.)
[11:29] <jrib> Deivid: I doubt it; ask here
[11:29] <fas> Can someone help me fix my fd0 read error?
[11:30] <Deivid> The frustrating problem related to jumpy cursor from ubuntu 12.04. 12.10
[11:31] <dkannan> what does "dpkg-reconfigure tzdata" do ?
[11:31] <Deivid> Tap on touchpad and the cursor make a jump, when I try to perform a precise click for example closing a windows, tab, the cursor move enough to select minimize
[11:31] <jrib> dkannan: lets you configure your timezone
[11:31] <dkannan> jrib: ok
[11:31] <dkannan> if i change /etc/localtime and do not run "/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure -f noninteractive tzdata"
[11:31] <Karlo_> Deivid: This isn't a fix, but for a simple workaround, you could use the keyboard instead of the mouse.
[11:31] <dkannan> what will not work/happen
[11:32] <Deivid> so Karlo_, this is not only a problem related to my ⎜   ↳ SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad              	id=12	[slave  pointer  (2)]
[11:32] <Deivid> it's a general problem?
[11:33] <jrib> Deivid: did you find some sort of related bug report at bugs.ubuntu.com?
[11:33] <Deivid> i tried by editing with synclient
[11:33] <dkannan> or in other words how do i view my timezone and what does "dpkg-reconfigure tzdata" change ?
[11:33] <Deivid> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/992330
[11:33] <Deivid> I reported the problem long ago
[11:34] <jrib> dkannan: read /var/lib/dpkg/info/tzdata.config I guess.
[11:34] <fas> Karlo_, any ideas on how I can fix the hd0 read error?
[11:35] <Eagleman> WHy do i get [: missing `]' as an error when i run my script? http://pastebin.com/32mp7NHy
[11:35] <dkannan> jrib: thanks
[11:35] <Deivid> If I edit the HorizHyst and VertHys the problem with jumpy is, let's say, 50% fixed but then when I move the cursor it feels like a slip cursor
[11:35] <Karlo_> Deivid: I have no idea about the problem -- I'm just noting that for a quick workaround, most mouse actions can also be accomplished with the keyboard.  (I've had a lot of mouse problems of my own.)
[11:36] <shroud> if [ ... ]; then <- note the semi-colon there
[11:36] <Deivid> I think the only good and fast option to fix it is to use a Mouse
[11:36] <shroud> also, you have two "then"s there
[11:36] <SolarisB1y> dkannan: date +%Z
[11:37] <Deivid> any good wifi mouse?
[11:37] <SolarisB1y> dkannan: reconfiguring tz-data relinks the localtime file to the selected TZ
[11:37] <dkannan> SolarisB1y: ah. thanks
[11:38] <SolarisB1y> dkannan: yw . you can also try 'strings /etc/localtime |tail -1' but thats messier than date +%Z
[11:38] <Eagleman> ok,. thanks shroud i will try it now
[11:39] <myhero> almoxarife: u there ?
[11:39] <Catbuntu> Hi
[11:39] <Catbuntu> Oh, NVIDIA updates at x-swat! :D
[11:39] <myhero> almoxarife: i installed terminal on ginger.....now what ?
[11:40] <almoxarife> myhero: ping the connection, if you cant ping it then its network-related
[11:41] <Hausas> I always use trace route fo find out the problem. ;]
[11:42] <almoxarife> Hausas: can you help myhero..., he has issue with network, thnks\
[11:43] <Hausas> Well, I'm not an expert
[11:43] <Hausas> though
[11:47] <jrib> Deivid: yes, all I can say is that you might have more luck changing the different options related to the touchpad (like acceleration and such)
[11:47] <jrib> !synaptics | Deivid
[11:48] <Deivid> thanks jrib, I will take a look over there
[11:49] <fas> Can someone help me troubleshoot an fd0 read error on boot?
[11:49] <fas> I get it when I hold down shift. So I can't get to the grub screen
[11:49] <jrib> fas: what happens when you don't hold shift?
[11:49] <fas> It boots into my os
[11:49] <fas> But I need to boot into recovery
[11:49] <ricardoabc> hi there
[11:49] <ricardoabc> how to mount an idle partition?
[11:50] <jrib> fas: that's kind of strange.  But I would resolve your sudo issue first with a live cd
[11:50] <fas> Can I use the server install CD?
[11:50] <fas> Or do I need a live cd?
[11:50] <fas> Because this is ubuntu server 12.04 64bit
[11:51] <fas> I'm currently booted into recovery mode through the server install CD
[11:51] <ricardoabc> how to mount an idle partition?
[11:52] <ricardoabc> how to mount an idle partition?
[11:53] <mar77i> er, hi
[11:53] <mikky> please which vga is recommended integrated or discrete?
[11:54] <MonkeyDust> ricardoabc  basically: mkdir [some folder] ; sudo mount /dev/blah [that folder]
[11:54] <mani__> hi
[11:54] <Cymew> So I have a total failure when upgrading and nobody around knows shit about it? Are there other ubuntu channels around?
[11:55] <cdavis> Is anyone else having problems with getdeb? Unable to connect to archive.getdeb.net:http:
[11:55] <fas> jrib, thoughts?
[11:55] <mikky> i am running Ubuntu on HP evny with switchable VGA but am wondering which VGA is recommended to prevent pc from getting hot and battery life to be normal? please any advice betweent INTEGRATED and DISCRETE?
[11:56] <mar77i> I have installed php5-sqlite, and the *.so file is loaded according to strace... still, get_defined_functions()[...] won't list any functions related to sqlite... hmm
[11:56] <jrib> fas: if you have a shell, that should work
[11:56] <cloudy> cdavis: same problem here
[11:56] <fas> jrib, ok, but it's a recovery shell so a lot doesn't work.
[11:56] <fas> Unless there is another option
[11:56] <MaxFrames> mikky: usually the integrated adapter should be more energy efficient
[11:57] <linux> ddd
[11:57] <mikky> MaxFrames thanks
[11:57] <MaxFrames> nothing specific to ubuntu though
[11:57] <jrib> fas: well you can use an actual live cd, if you are more comfortable there.  Either way, you'll have to mount the partition corresponding to your install and edit your /etc/sudoers file
[11:57] <linux> 有人吗？
[11:58] <ricardoabc> moneydust: now it is marked with a padlock
[11:58] <fas> jrib, ok, then I might download the live cd. But in the meantime, what drive do I mount? I have 3 drives in RAID5
[11:58] <jrib> fas: I don't know how to deal with raid
[11:59] <ricardoabc> #ubuntu-es
[12:00] <mani__> yup
[12:00] <linux> hello!
[12:01] <mani__> hi
[12:01] <mani__> are u??
[12:01] <dkannan> hi. when i run "update-locale LANG=en_US.utf8"
[12:01] <james25> salve
[12:02] <james25> !list
[12:02] <dkannan> "/etc/default/locale" is  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1414504/
[12:02] <lhavelund> !it | JamesJRH
[12:02] <Nik05> Hey guys. Someone an idea how i can get over a million profiles in apparmor? all of them are dovecot
[12:02] <dkannan> what about the other vars like LC_CTYPE
[12:03] <jrib> dkannan: what about it?
[12:03] <penghack> can someone help me with my problem of graphic driver?thanks!http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12390585#post12390585
[12:04] <paulo> How can I run GUI app from Ubuntu Customization Kit (I want it affect on a preparing distrin not my installed OS)?
[12:04] <dkannan> jrib: when i say " update-locale" i have to set every variable separately ?
[12:04] <dkannan> jrib: i also do not know the meaning of the various vars given on http://paste.ubuntu.com/1414504/
[12:04] <fas> jrib, it turns out I have to recover into md0
[12:05] <fas> which is the raid partition
[12:05] <dkannan> jrib: and why is LANGUAGE defined as "en_US:"
[12:05] <fas> from there I went to my sudoers file and fixed it.
[12:05] <fas> Still not sure about how to fix grub though
[12:05] <dkannan> jrib: but LANG is "en_US.utf8"
[12:05] <jrib> dkannan: I have to go but read "man 7 locale" and "man 1 locale".  There's some inheritance to how those variables behave described in "man 7 locale" I think
[12:05] <dkannan> jrib: thanks
[12:06] <anonymous> Anyone know how to install a compiler for Ubuntu 11.04 LTS Server Edition?
[12:06] <lwizardl> okay is there a way to make it so anytime there is updates applied on my 10.04lts system that it will automatically reinstall a driver deb I have saved? reason why is every single time there is any updates applied to my system I lose my headphones muting the system internal speakers.
[12:06] <anonymous> I've tried installing GCC, but...that's like trying to install a compiler without a compiler lol
[12:06] <Deivid> best technology to use the mouse on any surface is the optic one?
[12:07] <Deivid> or laser?
[12:07] <mar77i> jrib: the inheritance can be scripted with eval $(locale)
[12:07] <jrib> anonymous: apt-get install build-essential ... you should tell the channel why you want a compiler
[12:07] <lantizia_> Lo, anyone got any experience with these 7" WM8505 based netbooks?
[12:08] <anonymous> Jrig, I've tried that but I don't have aptitude installed
[12:08] <ricardoabc> #linuxmint
[12:08] <jrib> anonymous: I didn't mention aptitude
[12:08] <anonymous> Advanced Packaging Tool*
[12:08] <anonymous> Sorry.
[12:08] <fidel_> anonymous: apt != aptitude
[12:08] <jrib> !locale | dkannan
[12:08] <myhero> Hausas: almoxarife sorry i got disconnected
[12:08] <jrib> dkannan: that might have some helpful issue too and see mar77i comment
[12:09] <ervins> hi guys... I was wondering is the any open source software for unlocking cell phones?
[12:09] <jrib> anonymous: you definitely have apt-get, or something is very wrong.
[12:09] <anonymous> Ah you're right, sorry.
[12:09] <myhero> almoxarife: i pinged in terminal on droid....ping 192.168.1.2:22 unknown host
[12:09] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:09] <Hausas> what problem are you experiencing, myhero?
[12:10] <dkannan> jrib: thx. reading them
[12:10] <anonymous> When I run the command 'sudo apt-get install build-essentials', I get "Unable to locate package build-essentials
[12:11] <myhero> Hausas: i want to connect my droid with my laptop over wifi and transfer files both ways..... almoxarife and some others suggested i install openssh-server on laptop and es file explorer on droid....
[12:13] <myhero> Hausas: now much of troubleshooting and now openssh-server is setup on laptop...but now droid is not connecting to it....i m using server address 192.168.1.2 with username ubuntu and password 12345678 and port 22 default in sftp connection on droid app es file explorer
[12:13] <fidel_> anonymous: are you able to use 'apt-cache search' to search packages? if so - have you found the one mentioned above?
[12:13] <fidel_> in addition: are you able to install general updates via apt-get without getting error output?
[12:13] <anonymous> One moment.
[12:14] <myhero> Hausas: i have enabled hotspot in droid and it is shown in laptop and gets connected also....but what after it ? ping 192.168.1.2 in terminal on droid says unknown host
[12:14] <anonymous> Currently running an update.
[12:14] <penghack> how can i get the dirver of sis6351?:(..
[12:14] <Eagleman> How can i do the following, if the command sed -n '/ from bierdopje/{s///p;q;}' /scripts/media/processing/postpost shows me output then do this       if no output then nothing     this is an example of output:  Person.of.Interest.S02E06.720p.WEB-DL.DD5.1.H.264-KiNGS.srt  and this is an example of no output of the sed command:
[12:14] <Hausas> Well.
[12:15] <myhero> Hausas: yea ?
[12:15] <Hausas> I've never used this option to transfer files
[12:15] <penghack> i post the problen at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2091836
[12:15] <Hausas> I always use Kies Air
[12:15] <SolarisB1y> Eagleman: find out what sed returns if there is no match
[12:16] <Eagleman> nothing
[12:16] <myhero> Hausas: hmm then what to do ? any other method and for this also u can give it a try....my problem will be solved and u'll have experience :)
[12:16] <SolarisB1y> Eagleman: likely non-zero - wrap it in an if/else statement
[12:16] <SolarisB1y> Eagleman: the return code..
[12:16] <Hausas> And I'm not familiar with openssh-server
[12:16] <SolarisB1y> Eagleman: $? use that in your script in an if statement if it is non zero return which it likely is
[12:16] <myhero> Hausas: Kies Air ? what that ? any app ?
[12:16] <Hausas> myhero, There's no need for me to transfer the files
[12:16] <Eagleman> ok i will try
[12:16] <SolarisB1y> ok
[12:16] <Hausas> As only files I transfer are pictures
[12:17] <myhero> Hausas: ok...shed some light on Kies Air...
[12:17] <Hausas> but they automatically are uploaded on dropbox
[12:17] <Hausas> and Kies Air
[12:17] <myhero> Hausas: whats Kies Air ?
[12:17] <SolarisB1y> Eagleman: hint. on the command line run the sed command in both cases to get a return and try to make it NOT match as well, after *each* run type "echo $?" and observe the number you see
[12:17] <Hausas> Software developed by Samsung
[12:17] <anonymous> Fidel, currently connected through SSH running an update, so it's a tad slow.
[12:17] <almoxarife> myhero: still using livecd?
[12:17] <anonymous> It'll complete in a minute
[12:17] <Hausas> But I'm not sure it can be used on other phones
[12:18] <myhero> almoxarife: yes....
[12:18] <Eagleman> ok trying now
[12:18] <almoxarife> myhero: whats wrong with the installed OS on the lappy?
[12:19] <myhero> almoxarife: anything new on linux gives lots of errors and if there will be any problem then it will be hard for me to troubleshoot so i'll 1st try on live then will go for it on installed system.....
[12:19] <almoxarife> myhero: i see
[12:19] <Hausas> U better try to solve my problem. :) It's much easier
[12:20] <Hausas> I had Ubuntu and Fedora on my laptop
[12:20] <myhero> almoxarife: sorry but just being careful
[12:20] <boof> is it?
[12:20] <Hausas> Then I installed Mageia
[12:20] <Hausas> And it doesn't appear in grub list
[12:20] <anonymous> Fidel_ I ran apt-cache search
[12:21] <MonkeyDust> myhero  mind: some things work fine in the live session, but not always in the installation
[12:21] <anonymous> Couldn't find the one mentioned above.
[12:21] <Abhijit> Hausas, which os you are right now on?
[12:21] <fidel_> anonymous: search once again for: build-esse
[12:21] <Hausas> Abhijit, I'm on windows. But that's different laptop.
[12:22] <almoxarife> myhero: assuming you are not connecting from the droid i cant help you, you did a local connect to the lappy-livecd, that worked, meaning the ssh-server is up and running, the droid issue is not an ubuntu issue
[12:22] <Hausas> So the other laptop is on Fedora now
[12:22] <fidel_> at least in 12.04 the package is called: build-essential
[12:22] <fas> jrib, thanks for the help. Now, I want to make all members of the admin group sudoers. how do I do this?
[12:22] <anonymous> That's so weird, now I see it.
[12:22] <kilon_> hey there I got a problem with atheros card anyone here can help ?
[12:22] <myhero> MonkeyDust: still sometimes troubleshooting is too scary and a lot of work when short of time....so live is a bit handy
[12:22] <anonymous> I'll go ahead and install that now.
[12:22] <kilon_> i installed ubuntu 12.10 and it cant see my wired ethernet connection
[12:22] <dkannan> jrib: hi. i do not see any comment by mar77i ?
[12:22] <anonymous> Thank you
[12:23] <myhero> almoxarife: i enbled hotspot and laptop is connecting to it.....now whats wrong ?
[12:23] <Abhijit> Hausas, ok great. now go here http://www.supergrubdisk.org/ and download the iso file and burn it to usb drive. in windows you can use unetbootin to burn to iso
[12:23] <almoxarife> myhero: by the way, the reverse process is also the same, install sftpd on the droid and connect from the lappy
[12:24] <myhero> almoxarife: ok thnx just 2mins will be back....have to enable some mac address in router so have to boot it...sorry for leaving
[12:24] <Abhijit> Hausas, after that boot into live usb it will find your ubuntu and fedora. select boot into ubuntu. then from ubuntu terminal do sudo os-prober is it detects your mageia then its installed correctly otherwise some issue.
[12:24] <almoxarife> myhero: what is the ip of the lappy/router/phone??
[12:24] <Hausas> I can boot Ubuntu without supergrubdisk
[12:24] <Hausas> Do I still need it?
[12:25] <Abhijit> Hausas, if osprober detected the magie now reinsall grub by sudo grub-install /dev/sdX replace X with your harddisk name where you want to install the grub. you can fidn it by doiing fdisk -l then do sudo update-grub and reboot without usb connected
[12:25] <Abhijit> Hausas, no
[12:25] <Hausas> Cool
[12:25] <Hausas> That's so helpful
[12:25] <Hausas> Thanks
[12:25] <fas> So to let someone have access to sudo, should I comment out %sudo= or %admin= and add them to which group?
[12:25] <myhero> almoxarife: how to look for ip on droid ? ifconfig is not returning anything on droid
[12:26] <almoxarife> myhero: no idea
[12:26] <Abhijit> Hausas, while doing grub install /dev/sdX be carefull to select the right drive. or otherwise that will again create some other issue
[12:26] <Eagleman> when nothing returns it returns a 0 and when Person.of.Interest.S02E06.720p.WEB-DL.DD5.1.H.264-KiNGS.srt returns its a 0
[12:28] <menace> any experiences with zfs and ubuntu? (with the zfs ppa and lucid)
[12:28] <Abhijit> Hausas, wait. you said it doesnt appear in grub list. that means you can access grub?
[12:28] <myhero> almoxarife: http://pastebin.com/0BTxikzx
[12:28] <Hausas> Yes, I can
[12:28] <Abhijit> oh
[12:29] <Abhijit> Hausas, then what are you doing on windows pc? boot into that ubuntu on your that laptop?
[12:29] <Abhijit> and follow the remaining instructions as above
[12:29] <Hausas> Abhijit
[12:29] <Hausas> I've got 2 laptops!
[12:29] <Abhijit> Thats great!
[12:29] <Pyragas> Abhijit, That's my second laptop
[12:29] <boof> who good at C++?
[12:29] <Abhijit> Hausas, but we have to solve the problem of that ONE laptop which has ubuntu/fedora and now magie?
[12:29] <MonkeyDust> boof  #c++
[12:30] <Pyragas> ok, so I'm on fedora now, Abhijit
[12:30] <Pyragas> And look: http://pastebin.com/3d6ds36D
[12:30] <Abhijit> Pyragas, you are gifting away spare laptops? where do you live?
[12:30] <almoxarife> myhero: thats the livecd, i assume the router is the same subnet, 192.168.1.1? and the android?
[12:30] <Abhijit> Pyragas, is Hausas ?
[12:30] <Pyragas> I'm not
[12:30] <Pyragas> Yes
[12:31] <boof>  i think  C++ is hard
[12:31] <Eagleman> SolarisB1y its not returning anything usefull with $?
[12:31] <Pyragas> "I'm not" - I meant I'm not gifting away laptops
[12:31] <myhero> almoxarife: how to look for it on android.....ifconfig is not returning anything on android
[12:31] <Abhijit> Pyragas, thats good. now do sudo update-grub and see if it shows that it has added magiea entry
[12:31] <Pyragas> And, yes, I am Hausas
[12:31] <SolarisB1y> Eagleman: are you sure?
[12:31] <Eagleman> sed -n '/ from bierdopje/{s///p;q;}' /scripts/media/processing/postpost | echo $?
[12:31] <SolarisB1y> Eagleman: one second - $? is almost always useful when you want to know what happend with last command
[12:31] <SolarisB1y> Eagleman: no thats not correct
[12:32] <Eagleman> root@homeserver:/scripts/media# sed -n '/ from bierdopje/{s///p;q;}' /scripts/media/processing/postpost
[12:32] <Eagleman> Person.of.Interest.S02E07.720p.WEB-DL.DD5.1.H.264-KiNGS.srt
[12:32] <Eagleman> root@homeserver:/scripts/media# echo $?
[12:32] <Eagleman> 0
[12:32] <FloodBot1> Eagleman: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:32] <SolarisB1y> Eagleman: after as in type sed first and *then* type echo $? doing through pipe is doing something else
[12:32] <Eagleman> ow i better use pastebin
[12:32] <SolarisB1y> Eagleman: correct but dont flood -
[12:32] <SolarisB1y> that was successful it returned 0 because a string was mastched
[12:32] <Hausas> Hang on, Abhijit, update-grub is not a correct command
[12:32] <Hausas> let me google i
[12:32] <Hausas> t
[12:32] <Eagleman> i emtpy the file now see what happens
[12:32] <SolarisB1y> Eagleman: now do one that *wont* match - and check the return code again, it should be different
[12:33] <fas> Hey guys, if I uncomment admin ALL=... then all members of the group admin can sudo correct?
[12:33] <Abhijit> Hausas, yes i think its different in fedora
[12:33] <Eagleman> http://pastebin.com/qD7Z0WHR
[12:33] <Eagleman> aigan a 0
[12:34] <Hausas> Abhijit, it is
[12:34] <almoxarife> myhero: lets assume that the droid is on the same subnet, if not the issues are beyond scope, and that via terminal on the droid you didnt get ping return, then it does not see the ssh-server, i dont know why, but you are able to make local connection on lappy to ssh-server via ubuntu@localhost, so, i dont know what to tell you
[12:34] <Hausas> That's why I'm googlin
[12:34] <myhero> almoxarife: tell what to write on terminal on droid...
[12:35] <yhusha> how to get back from root root@yhusha-AOD260:/# su yhusha
[12:35] <yhusha> Unknown id: yhusha
[12:35] <almoxarife> myhero: ping 192.168.1.102:22
[12:35] <SolarisB1y> Eagleman: ok cool
[12:35] <Eagleman> any idea SolarisB1y
[12:35] <Abhijit> Hausas, ask in #fedora then
[12:35] <SolarisB1y> Eagleman: so in that case yes i have a idea
[12:35] <SolarisB1y> Eagleman: wrap those commands in $() and save them in a variable and test the *string* for empty or not
[12:35] <myhero> almoxarife: ok...i am disconnecting and trying that again
[12:36] <Hausas> No one's answering
[12:36] <Hausas> ;}
[12:36] <Hausas> I'll try some more googling
[12:36] <Abhijit> Hausas, then why dont you boot into ubuntu
[12:36] <ebi> I am running ubuntu 12.04 and want to install firefox 16.0.2 but can only see the 17.x versions. Is there a way to install the older version without manually downloading the package?
[12:36] <SolarisB1y> Eagleman: eg myVar="$(sed -n '/ from bierdopje/{s///p;q;}' /scripts/media/processing/postpost)" then after in your script check if the variable contains an empty string or not depending on your bash version you should be able to use pattern matching (basic)
[12:37] <yhusha> how to get out of root login? in terminal root@yhusha-AOD260:/# su yhusha
[12:37] <yhusha> Unknown id: yhusha
[12:37] <Abhijit> yhusha, exit
[12:38] <SolarisB1y> yhusha: did you switch to root or log in as root? if you switched type exit or hit CTRL+D
[12:38] <yhusha> did that its still showing root@yhusha
[12:38] <MonkeyDust> yhusha  egain exit
[12:38] <SolarisB1y> did you switch shells as root? you can type it again
[12:38] <MonkeyDust> a
[12:38] <SolarisB1y> lol
[12:38] <Abhijit> yhusha, alt f4
[12:38] <thournado> hello
[12:39] <yhusha> did exit many times and alt f4 closes the work spac3e didnt want that
[12:39] <Hausas> I think it's done, Abhijit
[12:39] <SolarisB1y> yhusha: type id yhusha
[12:39] <Hausas> Thanks for your help
[12:39] <Hausas> Let's try rebooting
[12:39] <Abhijit> huayra, welcome
[12:39] <Abhijit> best luck
[12:39] <Hausas> ;
[12:39] <Hausas> ]
[12:39] <SolarisB1y> yhusha: sorry 'id yhusha'
[12:39] <yhusha> root@yhusha-AOD260:/# id yhusha
[12:39] <yhusha> id: yhusha: No such user
[12:40] <SolarisB1y> yhusha: okie dokie then - on the right host?
[12:40]  * Pyragas rr
[12:40] <yhusha> yea
[12:40] <yhusha> its personal laptop
[12:40] <yhusha> root@yhusha-AOD260:/# 'id yhusha'
[12:40] <yhusha> id yhusha: command not found
[12:40] <yhusha> root@yhusha-AOD260:/#
[12:40] <yhusha> see
[12:41] <SolarisB1y> dont include the quotes
[12:41] <SolarisB1y> you had it right the first time - the user doesn't exist
[12:41] <yhusha> tried it with and with ut comas
[12:41] <SolarisB1y> lol it wont change that fact
[12:41] <archana> Hi.. I don't know how to set Transmission to download the video in "sequential order"... Which torrent client for Ubuntu can do this?
[12:42] <yhusha> yes but look root@yhusha-AOD26.... shows user exhists
[12:42] <SolarisB1y> yhusha: no not really
[12:42] <SolarisB1y> that depends on your PS1 variable, it *seems* that yhusha-AOD26 is the host name
[12:42] <SolarisB1y> yhusha: echo $PS1 and you will see what the escapes are
[12:43] <yhusha> how can it not be user on computer made for self
[12:43] <yhusha> echo $PS1
[12:43] <yhusha> \[\e]0;\u@\h: \w\a\]${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\u@\h:\w\$
[12:44] <SolarisB1y> \u@\h < user@host | just because you made the computer your self doesn't mean it works as you expect though
[12:44] <yhusha> it never done such before
[12:45] <SolarisB1y> heh
[12:45] <SolarisB1y> yhusha:  grep yhusha /etc/passwd
[12:45] <archana> How do I set transmission to "sequential download" a video?
[12:45] <Abhijit> archana, #transmission
[12:46] <myhero> almoxarife: ping 192.168.1.102:22 unknown host.....192.168.1.2:22 unknown host.......ping 192.168.1.2 host unreachable......i am using this terminal on droid https://github.com/jackpal/Android-Terminal-Emulator/wiki
[12:46] <yhusha> grep returned no error but still root@yhusha....
[12:46] <SolarisB1y> archana: not sure if anything changed https://trac.transmissionbt.com/ticket/452
[12:46] <SolarisB1y> yhusha: i am explaining to you that the value after the @ symbol is *NOT* a user name
[12:47] <yhusha> ok well normaly when nt logged in root it displays yhusha@yhusha.....
[12:47] <SolarisB1y> archana: they closed that feature request 5 years ago a referenced several threads as to why wont implement it
[12:47] <archana> SolarisB1y: this ticket says "invalid".. :(
[12:47] <SolarisB1y> yhusha: well that user is gone today
[12:47] <SolarisB1y> archana: ^^
[12:48] <almoxarife> myhero: and you cant make a ssh connection either, so we are back to the droid not talking to the lappy-livecd, so, no idea
[12:48] <archana> SolarisB1y: could you tell me any other client that can sequentially download?
[12:48] <yhusha> hows that happen,,
[12:48] <SolarisB1y> not sure off top really
[12:48] <SolarisB1y> yhusha: no clue
[12:48] <yhusha> hahah
[12:49] <yhusha> figured as much
[12:49] <myhero> almoxarife: but i dont understand when i am enabling hotspot then it is shown in laptop and gets connected also....so where is the problem ?
[12:49] <style__> hi
[12:49] <SolarisB1y> lol
[12:49] <yhusha> :)
[12:49] <style__> how can i fix this :  PHP PDO module is not installed.
[12:49] <SolarisB1y> well *my* user's dont dissapear...
[12:49] <SolarisB1y> so im good ;>
[12:49] <Eagleman> SolarisB1y i already have srtfile=$(sed -n '/ from bierdopje/{s///p;q;}' /scripts/media/processing/postpost)
[12:49] <SolarisB1y> Eagleman: and how are you testing that a string is not empty?
[12:50] <Eagleman> not
[12:50] <SolarisB1y> http://timmurphy.org/2010/05/19/checking-for-empty-string-in-bash/
[12:50] <SolarisB1y> Eagleman: ^
[12:51] <almoxarife> myhero: no idea, anyway, you are playing with a livecd, the issues may be amplified because of it, if this is about getting into the lappy then use the os of the lappy, i am done with livecd, thnks
[12:52] <mtlife> hey can someone help me login to my box again? I can't login from ssh, it says 'Authenticating with public key "rsa-key-20120919" from agent', 'Server refused to allocate pty', 'no rc file found'
[12:52] <MonkeyDust> myhero  try leaving the live cd
[12:52] <SolarisB1y> mtlife: type ssh-add -l
[12:52] <yhusha> got it back yhusha@yhusha-AOD260:~$
[12:53] <mtlife> SolarisB1y: where? on my box? Because I can't login right now.
[12:53] <SolarisB1y> yhusha: remind me never to admin your box...
[12:53] <myhero> almoxarife: thats really bad....i'll try in os but if something gets wrong then i'll be left with a screwed up system
[12:53] <SolarisB1y> mtlife: on the "client" you are trying to ssh *from*
[12:53] <yhusha> wha?
[12:53] <yhusha> ha
[12:53] <almoxarife> myhero: thats your problem, and your decision, good luck
[12:54] <Hausas> Abhijit, I just solved the problem. Thanks for your help.
[12:54] <Abhijit> Hausas, welcome!:-)
[12:55] <myhero> almoxarife: it sounds low when u have given ur time on it...
[12:55] <almoxarife> livecd=oh, i am bored now, lets try a new one
[12:55] <MonkeyDust> myhero  that's called 'learning', trial and error
[12:55] <oka> how about eclipse in ubuntu 12.04?
[12:55] <almoxarife> myhero: i didnt lose any sleep over it
[12:56] <Eagleman> SolarisB1y: http://pastebin.com/UzBHQNaq  result:VAR is not empty
[12:56] <Eagleman> if i empty the file it jumps to the next cmd line
[12:57] <myhero> MonkeyDust: ya almoxarife anyways still i appreciate Ur help....and time...btw u were pasting my no.
[12:57] <Eagleman> if emtpy: VAR is emtpy
[12:57] <Eagleman> I think i can go further now thanks :)
[12:57] <mtlife> SolarisB1y: I fixed it, thx. Problem was pageant running with a key for a different user.
[12:57] <SolarisB1y> your welcome ;>
[12:58] <SolarisB1y> mtlife: ahh i see i thought maybe the key was in your agent memory or such
[12:58] <SolarisB1y> mtlife: cool nice work
[12:58] <inthl> assuming I have SYSTEM_A and SYSTEM_B, both have a specifig directory, say ~/data - is it possible to use rsync or any other tool or something to keep both directories on both sides ynchronized? For example: when modifing files/x.txt on SYSTEM_A then also SYSTEM_B should get that change, AND vice versa, by executing a command on one of both systems
[12:58] <mtlife> :D
[12:59] <inthl> usually I am using rsync here to do this on one system, but I would like it to modify the other system as well if necessary
[13:02] <llutz> inthl: it needs 2 rsync-runs,1. "rsync -zau /source/foo hostB:/dest"  2. "rsync -zau hostB:/dest/foo /source"
[13:02] <k1l_> !rootirc > kucip
[13:02] <yhusha> ahaha
[13:02] <mtlife> ok next question, how come I am suddenly not in the sudoers file anymore?!! (I should be the only one with ssh access)
[13:02] <inthl> llutz, yes I guess so, so there is no way to do this with one command?
[13:03] <llutz> inthl: not using rsync (afaik)
[13:03] <k1l_> llutz: (didnt read the backlog) but couldnt unison help with 2 way rsync?
[13:04] <llutz> k1l_: i guess unison could do it in one rush, but i never used it myself
[13:04] <Eagleman> SolarisB1y: end result: http://pastebin.com/k5xdyQTN   Now i have to see if it works :)
[13:04] <Abhijit> !pm | myhero
[13:04] <llutz> inthl: so you might have a look at unison
[13:04] <Abhijit> myhero, whish os you are using?
[13:05] <inthl> thank you
[13:05] <myhero> Abhijit: i m on ubuntu 12.10 live-usb
[13:05] <SolarisB1y> Eagleman: very nice, i like that you indent!!!
[13:05] <MonkeyDust> myhero  please quit the live cd, really
[13:05] <myhero> MonkeyDust: ok....just 1 last try....
[13:05] <SolarisB1y> Eagleman: one suggestion use the date command in your touch lines, it would make the script more scalable
[13:06] <Eagleman> touch lines?
[13:06] <SolarisB1y> then you can use it on another day than 'touch 2012-11-8' like 'touch $(date +'%Y-%m-%d')'
[13:07] <SolarisB1y> Eagleman: ^
[13:07] <Abhijit> myhero, see if it helps http://askubuntu.com/questions/43086/how-to-transfer-files-from-to-an-android-device-via-a-gui
[13:07] <Eagleman> SolarisB1y i have another script which only runs if a file is 28 days or older
[13:07] <Eagleman> so i cant use the current date
[13:07] <SolarisB1y> gotcha
[13:08] <Eagleman> maybe a >1 month will do
[13:08] <Eagleman> But the file has to be older than 1 month to prevent unnescesary things
[13:08] <SolarisB1y> Eagleman: you can use find to compile a list of applicable files
[13:09] <Eagleman> i already got that script
[13:09] <SolarisB1y> =)
[13:10] <Eagleman> SolarisB1y:  http://pastebin.com/9c06ESaH
[13:10] <Eagleman> not so effecient becuase it repeats the command for each textline found in the script, but it works
[13:11] <SolarisB1y> i like adb i install it in my ~/.bin and add it to my path so i can "adb [push|pull] source destination" to my droid
[13:12] <SolarisB1y> Eagleman: in your case i guess you have to so it's ok
[13:13] <Eagleman> there is a option, but i stick with what i have now
[13:14] <SolarisB1y> Eagleman: split?
[13:15] <Eagleman> the file looks like this:
[13:15] <Eagleman> path1
[13:15] <Eagleman> path2
[13:16] <SolarisB1y> right on
[13:16] <Eagleman> i have to sort path1 and path2 in this order      path1 path2
[13:18] <leo__> !list
[13:19] <Eagleman> warez?
[13:20] <Eagleman> nvm
[13:20] <yhusha> just shrunk ubuntu 12.04 down to 562.7 megs for making toram with persistance install nice...
[13:21] <sspiff> is there a specific question to ask ARM-specific ubuntu questions?
[13:22] <yhusha> testing it in virtual box displays need to upgrade bios this happenss every time using ubuntu in virtualbox
[13:23] <k1l_> sspiff: we have #ubuntu-arm for arm specific questions
[13:24] <sspiff> k1l_: thanks!
[13:25] <morfeo_81> hi
[13:26] <morfeo_81> I have  problem to mount external hard drive
[13:26] <morfeo_81> I have  problem to mount external hard drive
[13:26] <k1l_> morfeo_81: which ubuntu, which problem? you got error messages? etcetc
[13:27] <lantizia_> Hey, gnome crashed and now it's forgotten I had xchat running in the notification area... so now xchat is running but I can't see it in alt+tab or the window selector... anyway or restoring/maximizing it some other way!?
[13:27] <_porque> hi all...can someone please tell me if is possible to clear a terminal log when it is busy? CRTL + L doesn't work in this case
[13:28] <_porque> Lantizia, try to restart your lightdm...
[13:28] <_porque> lantizia_, try restarting your lightdm service
[13:28] <lantizia_> _porque, won't that like close EVERYTHING
[13:28] <_porque> lantizia_, don't know =/
[13:28] <lantizia_> yes I think it does - not doing that
[13:28] <k1l_> yes it will
[13:29] <_porque> it is possible to clear a terminal log when it is busy?
[13:29] <lantizia_> k1l_, any ideas other than _porque's?
[13:30] <k1l_> Lantizia: kill the process of xchat?
[13:30] <lantizia_> i don't want to kill it - I want to get to it
 So I have ubuntu12.10 http://pastebin.com/Hce27iN9
[13:31] <morfeo_81> this is the error
[13:33] <morfeo_81> So I have ubuntu12.10 http://pastebin.com/Hce27iN9   I can't mount
[13:33] <morfeo_81> any suggestion how to recovery the data inside?
[13:33] <myhero> MonkeyDust: i got it connected over ssh....android and live usb and tested by tranfering 300Mb file....
[13:34] <llutz> morfeo_81: sudo mkdir /media/sdb1 && sudo mount -o uid=1000 /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1
[13:34] <frankko> Hw do i fix chromium so that it opens magnet links properly
[13:34] <myhero> MonkeyDust: now the thing is i transfered the file from android to laptop but how will i see and tranfer files from laptop to android  ?
[13:35] <k1l_> morfeo_81: give a "mount" in pastbin please
[13:35] <jrib> fas: I'm back, did you sort your sudo issue out
[13:35] <_porque> it is possible to clear a terminal log when it is busy?
[13:35] <_porque> lantizia_, no ideas....sorry
[13:35] <llutz> morfeo_81: the drive has a partition, so you have to mount that (/dev/sdb1), not the drive (/dev/sdb)
[13:35] <k1l_> morfeo_81: and you want to mount the partition on the drive, not the whole drive
_ The problem is the sdb1 there is not the data I put and have only a little memory... The data stay on sdb 1Tera memory
[13:36] <luminous> hi! i cancelled out of an `aptitude install libmagick-dev` and now am stuck with "Warning: Found a partial ImageMagick installation. Your operating system likely has some built-in ImageMagick libraries but not all of ImageMagick. This will most likely cause problems at both compile and runtime." but retrying the aptitude  install does nothing - how can i repair/rebuild
[13:37] <jrib> luminous: easiest thing to do is probably just purge and install again
 : the sdb1 it is only  328M the data are more than 500 gigabyte
[13:37] <llutz> morfeo_81:sudo umount /dev/sdb && sudo mkdir /media/sdb1 && sudo mount -o uid=1000 /dev/sdb /media/sdb1
[13:38] <k1l_> morfeo_81: sdb1 is already mounted on /media/UTIL_HDHXU3
[13:38] <myhero> MonkeyDust: ???
 Yes the problem is sdb
[13:38] <k1l_> morfeo_81: there is only one partition on sdb, that is sdb1
[13:38] <k1l_> you cant mount sdb
[13:38] <llutz> morfeo_81: still: "sudo mkdir /media/sdb && sudo mount -o uid=1000 /dev/sdb /media/sdb"  if theres really a filesystem on /dev/sdb
[13:39] <luminous> jrib: purge does nothing
[13:39] <luminous> :(
[13:39] <k1l_> llutz: i doubt that if there is already a sdb1
[13:39] <jrib> luminous: do you remember what was being installed :)  You probably need to deal with dependencies the main package pulls in
[13:39] <luminous> i tried a build dep
[13:39] <llutz> k1l_: me too, but....
[13:39] <luminous> it's as if aptitude just ignores everything
 In this disk I put all my data..I change only the  box..and now all my data disappear what can I do to try to rcover
[13:40] <jrib> luminous: ok, well pastebin what you are actually doing and seeing then
[13:40] <luminous> ok
[13:40] <myhero> anyways bye all will be back tomorrow ;) thnx a lot
[13:43] <jrib> luminous: if you still have the original output from when you cancelled something, that would be helpful too
[13:43] <morfeo_81> how can recover data from hard drive
[13:44] <luminous> jrib: http://dpaste.com/842127/
[13:46] <diverdude> Is there some app for ubuntu which will make a sticky note on my desktop? I want to use it as a todo-list
[13:47] <jrib> luminous: so what did you install and cancel?
[13:48] <morfeo_81> how can recover data from hard drive? gparted see data are nt allocated
[13:59] <Nik05> someone here now that know something about apparmor?
[14:00] <Nik05> aa-status says there are over a million profiles in complain mode. Not sure how that is possible
[14:00] <fas> jrib, yeah, I'm all set. Just still unsure about grub.
[14:03] <xpistos> Hello everyone. My 300 mb /boot partition says it only has 5.2 mb left but I am not sure what all I can delete out of it to make more room. Can someone give me a hand?
[14:04] <luminous> jrib: sorry, figuring out how to do a big paste in tmux.. haven't done this before and keep putting off figuring out these details.. I'm almost there :P
[14:04] <jrib> xpistos: you should remove old kernels.  Look for packages that begin with "linux-image" and refer to a specific version.  Make sure you do not remove your current kernel.
[14:04] <k1l_> xpistos: you can uninstall old kernels with removing the linux-image-XXXX package in apt
[14:05] <frederic1408> bonjour
[14:06] <frederic1408> Est ce que quelq'un s'occupe des problème d'upgrade
[14:06] <DJones> !fr | frederic1408
[14:06] <xpistos> This is what the ls looks like for the partion http://pastebin.com/YHHf40gu
[14:07] <lionrouge> hi
[14:08] <lionrouge> tell me please why 32bit version of Ubuntu is recommended on the off. site?
[14:09] <jrib> lionrouge: because that will work on more systems.  If you have a 64bit system, I would recommend installing the 64bit version
[14:09] <k1l_> lionrouge: there is still hardware which cant run 64 bit. so 32bit is all compatible
[14:09] <DJones> lionrouge: Its probably because in the past, there have been odd issues with the 64 bit version (things like flash being difficult to install etc), nowadays, I can't say I've had any issues with 64 bit
[14:09] <lionrouge> thanks
[14:09] <k1l_> lionrouge: if you have 64bit hardware, go for it
[14:10] <Ampersand> hi everyone! is there any way to integrate Pidgin into the Messaging Menu in Ubuntu 12.10 (I mean, to turn the icon blue on new messages for example). I did manage to show Pidgin in that menu, but without it turning blue on new messages.
[14:11] <Helmuthonian> \j #cosmology
[14:12] <xpistos> okay so I did sudo apt-get purge linux-image-3.2.0-20-generic and then sudo update-grub2
[14:12] <xpistos> and that cleared up some space
[14:13] <xpistos> Is this new, cause I never had to do this in old versions?
[14:13] <jrib> xpistos: you probably have a lot of old kernels then
[14:14] <xpistos> jrib: There are 10 plus linux-image-generic, but this was a fresh install of 12.04
[14:16] <lionrouge> I have Windows7 and windows8 (installed last). I want replace Win8 with Ubuntu. Will it make correct boot entry for Win7 in grub?
[14:17] <Wiz_KeeD> hey guy si have a question
[14:17] <Wiz_KeeD> if in ubuntu i do chmod 0 file
[14:17] <TheLordOfTime> Wiz_KeeD, so ask it?
[14:18] <Wiz_KeeD> then chmod u+rwx file
[14:18] <Wiz_KeeD> it shows rwxr
[14:18] <TheLordOfTime> !enter | Wiz_KeeD
[14:18] <Wiz_KeeD> then if i do chmod g+rx file, it shows -rwxr-x---
[14:18] <talpur> hi comunity I am trying to fix one error from last few hour but couldn't ....some one help me....I am trying to comiple SPEC2006 cpu bench Mark but one error rises Command returned exit code 2,  Error with make!
[14:18] <Wiz_KeeD> no read...can anyone tell why that happens?
[14:18] <Wiz_KeeD> thanks TheLordOfTime
[14:19] <kike_> Hi all
[14:19] <simplew> openoffice isnt packaged for ubuntu?
[14:19] <Wiz_KeeD> anyone?
[14:19] <notwist> simplew: use libreoffice
[14:19] <DJones> simplew: Its Libreoffice now
[14:20] <simplew> i dont want libreoffice
[14:20] <llutz> Wiz_KeeD: anyone what? user has rwx, group r-x, what did you expect?
[14:21] <lionrouge> Forget about openoffice it's almost dead. All the developers leaved sun and started libreoffice
[14:21] <Wiz_KeeD> all the other files are like this -rwxr-xr-- 1 web17 client2  1611 Jul  5 13:49 Mage_XmlConnect.xml
[14:21] <Wiz_KeeD> mine is -rwxr-x--- 1 web17 client2  1442 Dec  6 14:53 Openlabs_OpenERPConnector.xml
[14:21] <nkd> how to install Genius islim 330 driver for Ubuntu?
[14:21] <notwist> Wiz_KeeD: what you tell it to do is exactly what happens, please explain what you want to happen.
[14:21] <llutz> Wiz_KeeD: because you set it so
[14:21] <Wiz_KeeD> how do i make the permission exactly as the first file?
[14:21] <simplew> lionrouge: i dont see how its almost dead, i see its development
[14:21] <Wiz_KeeD> meaning -rwxr-xr--
[14:21] <llutz> Wiz_KeeD: chmod 754  the file if you want  -rwxr-xr--
[14:22] <llutz> !permissions | Wiz_KeeD
[14:22] <Wiz_KeeD> how did you figure that out! :(
[14:22] <lionrouge> I think there is an ppa for it
[14:22] <notwist> Wiz_KeeD: its user, group and all (world). You missed the world one, thats all
[14:22] <Wiz_KeeD> i thought the one in the middle was group
[14:22] <DJones> simplew: Openoffice was dropped in favour of Libreoffice a couple of versions back, if you want openoffice, you have to install it from the openoffice website or from a ppa if there is one
[14:22] <notwist> Wiz_KeeD: it is
[14:22] <Wiz_KeeD> and it has just execute, no read
[14:22] <llutz> Wiz_KeeD: see the link ubottu gave you
[14:22] <notwist> Wiz_KeeD: its rwx (user) rwx (group) rwx (all)
[14:22] <Wiz_KeeD> even though i did chmod g+rx file
[14:22] <SolarisB1y> user group other
[14:23] <notwist> Wiz_KeeD: youre not reading it right. the last three dashes are NOT group
[14:23] <Wiz_KeeD> ohh that's not a lengthy read, it's certanly worht my time, i'll read it, thanks a lot guys
[14:23] <Wiz_KeeD> :D
[14:23] <notwist> Wiz_KeeD: cheers
[14:24] <simplew> DJones: libreoffice was a fork, openofice was not dropped
[14:24] <Touhou11> simplew: Ubuntu dropped it as their favoured version
[14:24] <DJones> simplew: I meant it was dropped as being part of the Ubuntu release's in favour of Libreoffice
[14:25] <simplew> DJones: ah that i understand
[14:25] <Wiz_KeeD> 1 means execute 2 means write 4 means read, and the number until 7 i'm guessing are combinations
[14:26] <Guest26835> Every time I reboot my machine, when grub loads I get a message saying hd0 full, then it tells me to hit any key to continue. It then slowly boots and then works fine. Any ideas?
[14:26] <notwist> Wiz_KeeD: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chmod look at "numerical permissions"
[14:27] <cdavis> How can I list the packages that were installed from a specific repository? ie the getdeb repo
[14:27] <notwist> cdavis: http://superuser.com/questions/132346/find-packages-installed-from-a-certain-repository-with-aptitude
[14:28] <SolarisB1y> cdavis: dpkg -l |grep "$ppa"
[14:28] <notwist> SolarisB1y: dpkg -l does not output repo
[14:28] <SolarisB1y> it outputs the package tagging
[14:29] <SolarisB1y> ii  y-ppa-manager                                               0.0.8.1-3~webupd8~natty*
[14:29] <mridul__> hi
[14:30] <notwist> Guest26835: Im willing to bed that your hd0 is full
[14:30] <notwist> to bet*
[14:30] <notwist> mridul__: heyu
[14:33] <Ampersand> hi everyone! is there any way to integrate Pidgin into the Messaging Menu in Ubuntu 12.10 (I mean, to turn the icon blue on new messages for example). I did manage to show Pidgin in that menu, but without it turning blue on new messages?
[14:34] <talpur> hi comunity I am trying to fix one error from last few hour but couldn't ....some one help me....I am trying to comiple SPEC2006 cpu bench Mark but one error rises Command returned exit code 2,  Error with make!
[14:35] <talpur> Error with make 'specmake build
[14:36] <Joschii> hi
[14:37] <luminous> OT:: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/101402785/the-root-kit <<< check it out, please help.. this is real stuff we're up against, want confirmation?  >>> http://rt.com/usa/news/surveillance-spying-e-mail-citizens-178/
[14:38] <MonkeyDust> luminous  wrong channel
[14:38] <Guest83724> My boss said that I should do home office and connect via Citrix and token. Is there a Citrix client package for Ubuntu?
[14:38] <luminous> MonkeyDust: sorry, where to?
[14:39] <TheLordOfTime> Guest83724, you should ask Citrix that
[14:39] <TheLordOfTime> Guest83724, since Citrix's stuff isnt open-source, i dont think it'd be kept as part of the repositories...
[14:41] <luminous> jrib: sorry for the delay, distractions abound... here you go from before with libmagick-dev:  http://dpaste.de/qi8dq/
[14:42] <lionrouge> If i have primary standalone /boot can / be logical?
[14:43] <llutz> lionrouge: it can, doesn't matter
[14:43] <lionrouge> Thx
[14:46] <RickZilla> Question about upgrading to next version: I've been told I should purge all non-ubuntu PPA's before doing so, but if I want to keep them, should I just reinstall afterward?
[14:47] <luminous> hrm, looks like I lost jrib :(
[14:47] <luminous> http://dpaste.com/842127/ <<< libmagick-dev won't install properly for me, having cancelled aptitude mid-run
[14:48] <luminous> aptitude install & cancel looked like:  http://dpaste.de/qi8dq/
[14:48] <BluesKaj> !aptitude | luminous
[14:48] <luminous> BluesKaj: I am not sure I am following how that is creating my problem?
[14:49] <luminous> is this an issue with libmagick-dev being multiarch?
[14:50] <BluesKaj> luminous, that's quite possible , use apt-get to make sure you don't have arch problems
[14:50] <luminous> ook
[14:51] <WeThePeople> where are the launcher icons at?
[14:51] <MacroMan> Are there any alternatives to Terminal that let you do things like copy & paste without using the mouse?
[14:52] <luminous> BluesKaj: unfortunately, there is no difference.. apt thinks the package is already installed, but removing/purging/etc doesn't do anything, neither does an apt-get -f install
[14:52] <luminous> which claims to be relevant to this specific situatoin
[14:52] <luminous> so sad..
[14:53] <therizino> Rawr!
[14:54] <BluesKaj> luminous, try your package manager to remove or reinstall
[14:55] <WeThePeople> therizino, you mean .rar right
[14:55] <WeThePeople> ?
[14:55] <notwist> WeThePeople: he quit :p
[14:55] <WeThePeople> lol
[14:55] <WeThePeople> rage quit
[14:56] <bubba> lol
[14:59] <RickZilla> Question about upgrading to next version: I've been told I should purge all non-ubuntu PPA's before doing so, but if I want to keep them, should I just reinstall afterward? For example, I'll want to drop Unity but keep Cinnamon.
[14:59] <ironfoot495> Hello I have a problem getting ubuntu 12.04 to see my resolution. Can I get some help been working on this this for quite a while!!!
[14:59] <notwist> RickZilla: if you're willing to, you should do a clean install instead of upgrading
[14:59] <notwist> RickZilla: it's always better
[15:00] <RickZilla> notwist: yes, but I installed using a Live cd alongside windows
[15:00] <RickZilla> not sure how to upgrade otherwise
[15:00] <luminous> BluesKaj: I have... you aren't following any of my pastes are you...
[15:00] <luminous> :p
[15:00] <notwist> RickZilla: is Ubuntu on its own dedicated partition?
[15:01] <Ingenix> can anybody tell me how to autmount a folder via smb as soon as i connect to a server (openvpn)?
[15:01] <sam__> Can we ask for help here?
[15:01] <RickZilla> Yes, the partition that the LiveCD creates
[15:01] <notwist> sam__: yes
[15:01] <papachan> today some package from compiz-settings-manager appears in software update
[15:01] <papachan> and its impossible to update
[15:01] <papachan> message say: "unauthorized pacakges"
[15:01] <notwist> RickZilla: then you can just boot from a live cd again (the newest version, that is), and from there you can wipe the partition and install the new version of Ubuntu on top of it. That way its like a clean instyall
[15:02] <sam__> Ok i have a problem i have a B4306 and my wireless doesnt work I am using my iphone to connect now and that is very slow
[15:02] <RickZilla> notwist: Got it. I'm guessing that will be one of the chocies to do so after I click 'install' on that Live cd?
[15:02] <llutz> Ingenix: http://askubuntu.com/questions/28733/how-do-i-run-a-script-after-openvpn-has-connected-successfully
[15:02] <Ingenix> llutz: thanks a lot =)
[15:02] <notwist> RickZilla: yeah, it will ask you where you want to install, easiest is probably just to choose "ill do it manually" and from there delete the partition that has linux on it, itll be easy to spot because it will be ext3 probably instead of NTFS for example that Windows uses
[15:03] <RickZilla> notwist: What partition manager do you recommend?
[15:03] <notwist> RickZilla: theres one in the installation :)
[15:03] <sam__>  Ok i have a problem i have a B4306 and my wireless doesnt work I am using my iphone to connect now and that is very slow
[15:04] <notwist> RickZilla: just boot the newest Ubuntu live CD and look around, you can always just check it out without applying anything
[15:04] <notwist> RickZilla: you might also be able to access the internet from the live cd so you could come back and ask for help
[15:04] <RickZilla> notwist: Ok, I'll look at it more closely once it gets to be that time, I was just trying to wrap my brain around the process
[15:04] <RickZilla> notwist: True, I've done that before
[15:05] <savio> hi
[15:05] <RickZilla> I'm one application from being able to dump Windows altogether
[15:06] <sam__> Can someone help me please?
[15:06] <savio> !anyone | sam__
[15:07] <sam__> Does anyone know how to fix my problem I have a problem i have a B4306 and my wireless doesnt work I am using my iphone to connect now and that is very slow
[15:08] <zzecool> Hello in ubuntu 12.10 if you right click an iso file there is the option to "Open with archive mounter" which doesn't work  ( no error no nothing ) there is also under the opwn with menu the option to open with " Disk image mounter"  . I wonder if there is a way to make Archive mounter to work or to have the "disk image mounter" as the default  way   ( right now there is no option to select the disk image mounter as the default application
[15:08] <zzecool> )    Thanks in advance
[15:08] <RickZilla> sam__: If you're not able to find somebody to help you here, you might <insert favorite search engine here> your device specifically to see if you can find any solutions that way. Chances are it's documented somewhere.
[15:08] <savio> zzecool, see launchpad
[15:08] <notwist> sam__: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[15:09] <zzecool> savio:  ? any link ?
[15:09] <RickZilla> Or just ask notwist, he seems to be the guy with the info today
[15:09] <notwist> please don't, I have no idea what I'm doing
[15:09] <RickZilla> I don't think any of us do
[15:10] <zzecool> savio: is it a known bug under nautilus ?  ( im using the 3.6 )
[15:11] <usr13> sam__: Make sure you are fully updated. sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade
[15:11] <_porque> hi all...is it possible to clear a console while it is busy?
[15:11] <usr13> pooky: clear
[15:11] <notwist> usr13: I'd recommend typing it as "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" that way the second one will run if the first one succeeds
[15:12] <notwist> _porque: what do you mean by "clear"
[15:12] <usr13> notwist: You are correct.  Thank you
[15:12] <usr13> sam__: Make sure you are fully updated. sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[15:12] <notwist> usr13: you can also add -y I think to the upgrade part :)
[15:12] <notwist> but its probably best to let the user press yes
[15:13] <usr13> pooky: clear   is a command to clear the terminal screen
[15:13] <RickZilla> I first used ubuntu about four years ago, had a tough time getting it to work with everything on my laptop, switched to LM, then came back to ubuntu just this year. Everything seems to work better now, same laptop and everything.
[15:13] <_porque> notwist, CTRL + L
[15:13] <_porque> notwist, clear my terminal log....
[15:13] <notwist> _porque: what about "clear"?
[15:14] <_porque> notwist, don't get it, sorry
[15:14] <cluey> Am trying to reallocate my onboard  sound-audio output-microphone jacks to surround sound speakers, know how in win but ubuntu I can't even seam to find the correct search terminology. Any ideas or expertese?
[15:14] <usr13> clear ignores any command-line parameters that may be present.
[15:14] <BluesKaj> luminous, your pastes don't tell me much , try this http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/6.3/general/imagemagick.html
[15:14] <notwist> _porque: im just wondering if you cant type the "clear" command because that will clear your screen
[15:14] <_porque> notwist, gonna test
[15:15] <TheHistorian> quit
[15:15] <_porque> notwist, no
[15:15] <luminous> BluesKaj: the problem is NOT with imagemagick
[15:15] <luminous> it's with _this_ system and what I did that screwed up apt
[15:15] <luminous> BluesKaj: this package in apt is goofed
[15:15] <luminous> that is the simple version
[15:15] <usr13> _porque: I'm pretty sure   Ctrl-l    is just a keyboard shortcut for the command,  clear
[15:16] <usr13> _porque: see    man clear
[15:16] <_porque> usr13, it is...but when the terminal is busy, it doesn't work
[15:16] <luminous> the pastes show everything relevant.. try to install it, apt says it is installed, try to {build-dep, install -f, purge, remove, etc} it and apt says there's nothing to do
[15:16] <luminous> BluesKaj: ^^
[15:16] <usr13> clear clears your screen if this is possible.  It looks in the environment for the terminal type and then in the terminfo database to  figure out how to clear the screen.
[15:17] <notwist> _porque: what do you mean by "busy"?
[15:17] <notwist> _porque: if a program is running and sending output obviously you cant clear the screen because output keeps coming
[15:17] <usr13> _porque: So what is your end goal?    Are you trying to stop a process that is currently underway?'
[15:18] <_porque> notwist, I'm running Rails server and it logs every request I make so the terminal is a mess with all that information, I'd like to clear the terminal log without the need to stop rails server
[15:18] <notwist> luminous: so have you looked around if you can delete the package manually? or atleast remove it manually from the apt registry
[15:18] <_porque> notwist, it makes all sense but I was guessing if it was possible because I can do that on a mac
[15:18] <notwist> _porque: you should run the rails server through screen or something
[15:19] <notwist> _porque: try "man screen", that way you can run processes neatly in the background. its how i run irssi for chatting
[15:19] <usr13> _porque: I dono, but I suppose if you want to do that, you should redirect standard output to a file or ... i dono...
[15:19] <BluesKaj> luminous, ok go into /usr/bin as root and remove the app
[15:19] <usr13> _porque: Yea, that's it.  As notwist suggests, use screen
[15:19] <notwist> _porque: instead of running "rails" you would run "screen rails" and when you want it gone you press CTRL+A+D, it still runs but you dont see it, and you can get it back anytime by typing screen -rd
[15:20] <_porque> notwist, ....hum..gonna try it...
[15:20] <notwist> _porque: you'll love screen so give it a shot
[15:21] <_porque> notwist, thanks a lot and thanks to you to usr13
[15:21] <FireStorms> Hey, can anyone tell me where the MySQL databases are stores on Ubuntu please?
[15:21] <usr13> _porque: Yea, screen is pretty cool.
[15:21] <notwist> _porque: np
[15:23] <Nodgic> I havent used Ubuntu in a while, I still had 11.04, but now it is updating to 11.10
[15:23] <Nodgic> will it update to 12.04 afterwards?
[15:23] <Nodgic> uh 12.10
[15:23] <usr13> FireStorms:  /var/lib/mysql/"DB-Name"  ?
[15:23] <OerHeks> FireStorms, in /var/lib/mysql/mysql/ and  configuration data in /etc/mysql/
[15:23] <notwist> Nodgic: not automatically I think
[15:23] <MonkeyDust> Nodgic  fastest, easiest, cleanist would be a fresh install
[15:24] <notwist> Nodgic: you should do a clean install instead if you can
[15:24] <FireStorms> thankkkkkk you
[15:24] <Nodgic> yeah alright
[15:24] <MonkeyDust> Nodgic  backup first
[15:24] <Nodgic> i know :)
[15:24] <Guest83724> When connecting to my companies Citrix site and after logging in I get the following error: Contact your help desk with the following information: You have not chosen to trust "GeoTrust Global CA", the issuer of the server's security certificate (ssl error 61). I am on Ubuntu 12.10. Any idea anybody?
[15:25] <MonkeyDust> Nodgic  best create a separate /home partition, it's easier to fresh install afterwards
[15:25] <usr13> Nodgic: DO you have separate /home/ partition?
[15:25] <Nodgic> nope
[15:25] <notwist> Guest83724: https://www.google.com/search?q=You+have+not+chosen+to+trust+Citrix
[15:25] <Nodgic> I am dualbooting though will the bootloader still work after a clean install?
[15:25] <MonkeyDust> Nodgic  during install, choose 'something else' and specify /home and /
[15:25] <Nodgic> aha
[15:25] <notwist> Nodgic: dont worry, a new GRUB will be installed and it will detect windows
[15:26] <Nodgic> cool
[15:26] <usr13> Nodgic: Having a separate /home/ partition allows you to re-install while leaving your personal files where they are and un-touched.
[15:26] <notwist> Nodgic: the point of having your own /home partition is that all independent stuff there (music etc) can be left and you can just wipe all the rest and clean install that
[15:26] <Nodgic> i see
[15:26] <Nodgic> thanks
[15:26] <usr13> Nodgic: But you can just back-up to a thumb drive ....
[15:26] <BaconAttack_> Will that keep applications too?
[15:26] <mattt_> When running "crontab -e" why does vim display a series of errors like 'E319: Sorry, the command is not available in this version: exe "hi' - I don't see the same errors when running vim or vi directly
[15:26] <notwist> Nodgic: /home also contains a lot of config files so stuff like firefox bookmarks and what not will be there
[15:26] <BaconAttack_> Just wondering
[15:27] <Nodgic> ah, nice
[15:27] <notwist> BaconAttack_: applications arent installed in the home folders, atleast not typically, so no
[15:27] <mattt_> The file /etc/alternatives/editor is linked to /usr/bin/vim.gnome..
[15:27] <FireStorms> Anyone interested in buying rights to this image for $60? http://i898.photobucket.com/albums/ac183/micha8l/new_wave2.png
[15:27] <notwist> BaconAttack_: application settings though are, in hidden folders
[15:27] <FireStorms> doh, wrong channel... sorry
[15:27] <MonkeyDust> BaconAttack_  i have a manully created list of installed programs, which i apt-get install after fresh install
[15:27] <BaconAttack_> Ah ok.
[15:28] <reedos> 抱歉，第一次用，有没有LINUX中文频道
[15:28] <jrib> mattt_: try running "select-editor"
[15:28] <MonkeyDust> !cn
[15:28] <usr13> mattt_: What version of Ubuntu are you on?
[15:28] <mattt_> usr13: lucid
[15:28] <mengazo> Hello, is it possible to sort files by creation date on any file manager for Ubuntu? I used to be able to do so on Windows and OS X for organizational purposes, an it seems as though Linux doesn't offer that in any way
[15:28] <usr13> aaahhhh
[15:29] <jrib> luminous: hmm, that's probably ok.  Is there a reason you are using gem install instead of the librmagick-ruby package through apt?
[15:29] <AuzBul> test test
[15:29] <zykotick9> mattt_: is vim.gnome = gvim the gui?  if you change that to a regular vim do you still get the errors?
[15:29] <MonkeyDust> AuzBul  it works, you're in
[15:29] <mattt_> jrib: that did the trick - but oddly, nano had been the editor selected, but vim was the editor being run..
[15:29] <AuzBul> anyone want to tell me how I can get a floodbot in my freenode channel?
[15:29] <jrib> mattt_: you might have EDITOR or VISUAL set?
[15:29] <MonkeyDust> AuzBul  ask in #freenode
[15:29] <AuzBul> i did....
[15:30] <AuzBul> they make it confusing MonkeyDust
[15:30] <notwist> AuzBul: well it has nothing to do with ubuntu so dont ask it here
[15:30] <mattt_> jrib: neither set ^_^
[15:30] <AuzBul> byt you guys have 3 of them
[15:30] <usr13> mattt_:  are you fully updated?
[15:30] <AuzBul> but*
[15:30] <mattt_> zykotick9: not sure i understand re: vim.gnome=gvim
[15:30] <notwist> AuzBul: theyre most likely not from freenode
[15:30] <jrib> mattt_: weird
[15:30] <mattt_> usr13: unlikely.. this issue cropped up when I started using the solarized colourscheme
[15:31] <usr13> mattt_: sudo apt-get install vim
[15:31] <mattt_> anywho.. seems to be working, and now my crontab has syntax highlighting :)
[15:31] <zykotick9> mattt_: i have a vim.basic and a vim.tiny on my machine, but no vim.gnome.  i'd guess vim.gnome is actually the GUI application gvim.
[15:32] <Guest83724> I downloaded the certificate buy Firefox won't let me add it.
[15:32] <mattt_> zykotick9: vim.gnome runs in the terminal though O.o
[15:32] <notwist> Guest83724: more info please
[15:32] <DJones> AuzBul: Its something that was written specifically for this channel, I'm fairly sure that the code isn't publicly available
[15:32] <mattt_> I don't care much for gvim..
[15:32] <Guest78266> I have a disk that I've been working on salvaging from a BSOD. I have fixed the bad sectors and made the file system recognizable. Now, how do I format the other partitions so that it boots properly? My first partition is labeled "Dell utility",  second is "RECOVERY" and the third is my file system. What should I format "Dell Utility and "RECOVERY" so that my filesystem boots properly?
[15:32] <AuzBul> DJones: is there a perosn I can ask if I can use that script for my channel?
[15:33] <jrib> AuzBul: LjL
[15:33] <Guest83724> I downloaded the .pem file from global trust and chose import in the Firefox cert settings. But the button confirm exceptin is greyed out.,
[15:33] <AuzBul> i hate having to rely on the flood error
[15:33] <AuzBul> freenode always messes that up
[15:33] <notwist> Guest78266: 1) please choose a nickname with /nick 2) if you salvage, you should backup all of it to another disk and then reinstall completely, wiping partitions
[15:35] <gyre007> is there any way how I can pipe data into openssl as oppose to specifying the input via -in ? I dont want to create a file and then encrypt it...I want to do it on fly...
[15:35] <notwist> Guest83724: please choose a nick with /nick, also http://www.watchguard.com/help/docs/wsm/11/en-us/content/en-us/certificates/import_client_cert.html
[15:35] <usr13> AuzBul: What...?
[15:35] <AuzBul> i didnt say anything....
[15:36] <Guest78266> notwist: That's what I'm trying to avoid, is wiping the disk. It's still possible to salvage it. I know it is but a lot of people are to lazy to explain how. Though I've met some cool people that helped me get this far, and I'm hoping to find more so I can fix this.
[15:36] <notwist> Guest78266: when you're salvaging a disk you should ALWAYS copy all of it from the disk itself -> another disk
[15:37] <notwist> when the data is secured, you wipe the first disk completely and see if its still usable
[15:37] <Guest78266> notwist: I've already done that
[15:37] <MonkeyDust> Guest78266  type /nick blah
[15:37] <notwist> then when you have a working system back on the first hdd you can put stuff in from disk 2
[15:38] <luminous> jrib: to get the most recent / that had been more of a test, i can use apt
[15:38] <Guest78266> I'm a noob at irc I don't know how to set a nick name
[15:38] <MonkeyDust> Guest78266  simply type /nick some_nick
[15:39] <Emmanuel_Chanel> Hello!
[15:39] <usr13> "what's in a name? A rose, by any other name, would smell as sweet"  (how did i do?  Close?)
[15:39] <notwist> Emmanuel_Chanel: hi
[15:39] <Emmanuel_Chanel> Where has getdeb.net gone???
[15:40] <notwist> usr13: close enough
[15:40] <notwist> what sucks about guest nicks is that theyre annoying to separate
[15:40] <Ink> Hi I need some help I am new to ubuntu and am having issue with my sound quality, I googled it and found nothing matching my problem. the sound is crackly and grainy, any suggestion to help it
[15:40] <spaes> I have a .key keynote presentation file in ubuntu that is behaving like a directory. I guess it is some problem with the mime-type that causes it to be considered an archive. Is there any way that I can simply have it considered a single file? i need to upload it to a website.
[15:40] <notwist> Emmanuel_Chanel: seems to be down
[15:41] <usr13> that *which* we call a rose
[15:41] <notwist> Emmanuel_Chanel: see it as a great opportunity to learn how to compile from source and/or build your own debs!
[15:41] <compdoc> Guest78266, you dont need to format either of those two small partitions to get it to boot. Also, you cant repair sectors - buy a new drive
[15:41] <lionrouge> hi
[15:42] <lionrouge> why skype is not in 12.10 Software Center ?
[15:42] <Ink> can anyone help me?
[15:42] <AuzBul> i can
[15:42] <lionrouge> Ink, don't ask to ask
[15:42] <MonkeyDust> lionrouge  in the 3rd party repo
[15:42] <notwist> lionrouge: just go to their site
[15:42] <Emmanuel_Chanel> notwist: Yeah... I've already compiled something to .deb for myself personally, though...
[15:42] <lionrouge> MonkeyDust, thanks
[15:42] <AuzBul> Ink: what seems to be the problem?
[15:43] <TheLordOfTime> !anyone | Ink
[15:43] <TheLordOfTime> bleh lag
[15:43] <ejv> he already asked his question fellas
[15:43] <AuzBul> thank you ubottu
[15:43] <ejv> pay attention.
[15:43] <notwist> omg guys Ink just typed his question a minute ago thats why he said "can anyone help me"
[15:43] <AuzBul> you need a promotion!
[15:43] <AuzBul> t:D
[15:43] <usr13> lionrouge: skype.com
[15:43] <notwist> stop telling him to just ask
[15:43] <AuzBul> o
[15:43] <AuzBul> sorry
[15:43] <AuzBul> :C
[15:43] <FloodBot1> AuzBul: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:43] <AuzBul> wow.........
[15:43] <Ink> my sound isnt working since I booted Ubuntu, I am using 10.04, its crackly and grainy I couldnt find the answer anywhere I need Noob speak please
[15:44] <notwist> Ink: 10.04 is old as shit, upgrade.
[15:44] <Ink> I was told 12.04 was glitchy as all fuck and to go to the older version
[15:44] <spaes> LTS yo
[15:44] <notwist> Ink: did it stop working when you switched to ubuntu or has it worked previously?
[15:44] <AuzBul> Ink: format your hardrive
[15:44] <Ink> when i dual booted Ubuntu works fine on the winblows side
[15:45] <usr13> Ink: lspci |grep udio    #tell us what it says.
[15:45] <notwist> usr13 probably meant "grep audio"
[15:45] <ejv> AuzBul: you'll find yourself quickly departed from this channel, giving advice like that
[15:45] <AuzBul> bigmeow:
[15:45] <usr13> notwist: no
[15:45] <notwist> ok :)
[15:45] <AuzBul> ejv:  ..... do you know who i am
[15:45] <SolarisB1y> udio would find audio anyway lol
[15:45] <notwist> AuzBul: some asshole on the internet
[15:45] <notwist> SolarisB1y: :( im stopid
[15:45] <ejv> !op
[15:46] <SolarisB1y> notwist: no your not lol
[15:46] <AuzBul> thats not nice.....
[15:46] <lionrouge> Ink, at first look if your sound is muted
[15:46] <Pricey> AuzBul: When helping here, please be helpful :)
[15:46] <usr13> ( -i audio vs udio saves keystrokes)
[15:46] <Ink> i can hear sound it the quality thats the issue
[15:46] <jrib> ok, everyone, please keep in mind we're here to help each other... Also, try to stick to *friendly* support (keep the language family friendly)
[15:46] <printer> hi all. i'm not able to make my printer (epson d88) work. i modprobe usblp but, when i run "cat somefile | lpr", /dev/usb/lp0 disapper. any hints please? thanks
[15:46] <notwist> Ink: sounds like a driver issue or something like that
[15:47] <ejv> "format your hard drive" is an unacceptable response jrib, imho ;)
[15:47] <notwist> Ink: do you have any proprietary drivers available to try?
[15:47] <notwist> Ink: also I'm still sticking to "get a newer version", 10.04 is not the newest LTS
[15:47] <sam_> i forgot what i was meant to do for my problem
[15:48] <notwist> Ink: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS
[15:48] <sam_> i did sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade
[15:48] <usr13> !audio | Ink
[15:48] <notwist> sam_: thats okay because I forgot what your problem was
[15:48] <Guest83724> notwist, I installed the cert according to the instructions you posted and checked the cert to be trusted. Restarted firefox and get same error,
[15:49]  * compdoc hugs his LTS
[15:49] <sam_> i had an issue with b4306
[15:49] <sam_> not being able to connect to wifi
[15:49] <notwist> Guest83724: you might have installed it in the OS in a way so that its still not recognized by Firefox, I dont know. Try rebooting (hurts to say it but i honestly dont know)
[15:49] <notwist> sam_: did you look at the link I gave you
[15:49] <usr13> sam_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[15:50] <notwist> ^ thats the one
[15:50] <usr13> yep
[15:50] <sam_> yes but i was doing something else i didnt really understand it
[15:50] <notwist> sam_: what about it dont you understand
[15:50] <Ink> 00:14.2 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Device 780d (rev 01) 01:00.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation Device 0e08 (rev a1)
[15:50] <spaes> Is there a way to change how ubuntu sees the mime-type for a single file?
[15:50] <sam_> which one to download
[15:50] <notwist> sam_: read it again
[15:51] <lionrouge> weird... apt-get install is able to install skype but in Software Center it cannot be found
[15:51] <jrib> spaes: to what end?
[15:51] <notwist> sam_: the first section ends with answering your question
[15:52] <usr13> lionrouge:  Why didn't you just get it from   skype.com?
[15:53] <printer> key guys... i'm not able to make my printer (epson d88) work. i modprobe usblp but, when i run "cat somefile | lpr", /dev/usb/lp0 disapper. any hints please? thanks
[15:53] <spaes> jrib: it is considering keynote files and pptx files as directories, when they are single files. i guess it is because they are getting the mime-type of an archive. i need to upload one of these files as a single file, but i can't because in the file chooser it is shown as a directory.
[15:53] <manisabri> Hi. where is the httpd.conf for apache in 12.10?
[15:53] <extraymond> Hi guys, I want to know if it is possible to enable nvidia driver while another amd graphic card is running?
[15:53] <lionrouge> usr13, it's really bad practice
[15:53] <iceroot> manisabri: /etc/apache2/
[15:53] <usr13> lionrouge:  ...  Software Center and Synaptic Package Manager ...
[15:54] <arand> lionrouge: Only some packages show up in USC, not sure what the specific criteria is though.
[15:54] <manisabri> iceroot: its not there!
[15:54] <jrib> spaes: what happens when you open them in file browser?
[15:54] <iceroot> manisabri: use /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[15:54] <usr13> lionrouge: NOt really... (bad practice).
[15:54] <manisabri> uh i see
[15:54] <iceroot> manisabri: httpd.conf is old nad no longer used
[15:54] <extraymond> I saw people using nvidia for  physx acceleration and amd for graphic rendering on windows xp
[15:54] <usr13> lionrouge: cut to the chase, go to skype.com
[15:54] <spaes> jrib: it shows as a directory both in file browser or in the terminal.
[15:54] <manisabri> thanks a lot
[15:54] <jrib> spaes: so it displays files inside it?
[15:54] <spaes> jrib: yes.
[15:54] <usr13> lionrouge: It's where it's coming from anyway.
[15:55] <lionrouge> usr13, never
[15:55] <lionrouge> i'll use sudo apt-get install
[15:55] <usr13> lionrouge: never____________?
[15:55] <jrib> spaes: interesting.  That makes it sound like it *is* a directory.  I don't know how you would deal with that other than possibly creating an archive of the directory and sending that
[15:55] <usr13> lionrouge: Ok. that's fine.
[15:55] <notwist> lionrouge: sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner"
[15:55] <notwist> lionrouge: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install skype
[15:55] <spaes> jrib: ok thanks. that is what i was just now thinking of looking into.
[15:55] <lionrouge> notwist, already have done that stuff
[15:56] <usr13> lionrouge: Do you use ppa or backports?
[15:56] <notwist> lionrouge: then I suggest you read http://askubuntu.com/questions/151367/when-will-skype-4-0-enter-ubuntus-repositories
[15:56] <lionrouge> usr13, it's fresh new system
[15:56] <notwist> lionrouge: then I suggest you realize that youll get a newer and better version most likely from skype.com
[15:56] <notwist> lionrouge: cheers bye
[15:56] <lionrouge> notwist, thanks
[15:56] <reedos> can you speak chinise
[15:57] <notwist> reedos: #ubuntu-cn
[15:57] <notwist> reedos: go there :)
[15:57] <usr13> lionrouge: Ok, that's good.  And it is good to have a clean system.  (Just trying to explain a couple things you might not be totally aware of...)
[15:57] <BluesKaj> !cn | reedos
[15:57] <Dougie187> For some reason when I logged in this morning none of my files on my desktop showed up. I got an error about nemo not loading, but I'm using unity so I don't know if that is related or not.
[15:57] <notwist> !sv | notwist
[15:57] <reedos> that channel have a little peaple
[15:58] <notwist> reedos: that channel has people that speaks chinese... and this one does not :)
[15:58] <notwist> reedos: you could always try google translate
[15:59] <reedos> I can not speak English,but ,I like study it
[15:59] <notwist> reedos: http://translate.google.com
[15:59] <LABcrab> Hey people.  i need some help to get this (http://www.dreamcast-scene.com/guides/pc-dc-server-guide-win7/) done, because all my attempts so far have failed.
[15:59] <BluesKaj> notwist, give him a chance
[15:59] <reedos> notwist, how are you
[15:59] <notwist> reedos: im good :) you?
[15:59] <notwist> BluesKaj: it was just well meant advice
[16:00] <pedrinho> hi
[16:00] <notwist> I have to leave now, have a nice day/evening/whatever it is where you leave all, ciao
[16:00] <reedos> can I 加你为好友么
[16:00] <pedrinho> someone else having this running apt-get update?
[16:00] <pedrinho> Err http://br.archive.ubuntu.com precise-backports Release.gpg
[16:00] <pedrinho>   Something wicked happened resolving 'br.archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[16:00] <reedos> I leave
[16:01] <hydruid> help i'm stuck in a meeting where i'm only listening......SAVE ME
[16:01] <hydruid> lol
[16:01] <BluesKaj> reedos, try #ubuntu-tw
[16:01] <lionrouge> usr13, i appreciate this.
[16:01] <reedos> thanks
[16:02] <usr13> pedrinho: It means what it says.  Maybe just remove that repository.
[16:02] <usr13> lionrouge: NP
[16:02] <sam_> where do i find the hardware/additional folders
[16:04] <gigglefight> hi need help on how to install an xorg driver i've downloaded the need file
[16:04] <gigglefight> i'm stuck.
[16:05] <lionrouge> does apt has search feature?
[16:05] <savio> why ubuntu 12.10 is slower than 12.04 restarting service requires more time
[16:05] <savio> why so?
[16:05] <MonkeyDust> lionrouge  apt-cache search
[16:05] <lionrouge> savio, which services?
[16:06] <lionrouge> MonkeyDust, thanks
[16:06] <sam_> where is the hardware/additional drivers folder?
[16:06] <gigglefight> the file was created and posted by Dave Airlie. i've extracted the .zip and .tag.gz in the Downloads folder. i've opened README file and i'm stuck.
[16:06] <savio> lionrouge, network-monitor
[16:06] <savio> lionrouge, or any ?
[16:06] <gigglefight> within it's scr directory i find .c and .h files
[16:06] <usr13> sam_: hardware/additional drivers?  It's a service that finds proprietary diver modules for your system.  Not sure what "folder" it would use.  Why do you ask. What is your end goal?
[16:06] <lionrouge> savio, i don't know the reason. Is the delay critical?
[16:07] <savio> lionrouge, not so but it really sucks
[16:07] <sam_> well i need to find it to enable b43 drivers
[16:07] <savio> lionrouge, also tab completion  requires more time than 12.04
[16:09] <usr13> sam_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[16:09] <lionrouge> btw, in repos there is skype 4.1 as on site
[16:09] <lionrouge> savio, is your system outdated?
[16:09] <varikonniemi> why does 12.10 run dns in 127.0.1.1 ? This seems to be the problem i have had with virtualbox's network not working after upgrading -_-
[16:09] <sam_> yer i know that usr13 but it told me to find this thingy
[16:10] <savio> lionrouge, no it's not i  have i3 processor 3 gb ram what else does ubuntu need
[16:10] <gigglefight> can't find the ./configure, tried make and make install. i'm missing something
[16:10] <usr13> sam_: Sorry, I meant to send:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/134516/how-do-i-get-a-broadcom-bcm4306-wireless-card-working
[16:10] <lionrouge> savio, videocard?
[16:10] <savio> lionrouge, intel hd
[16:11] <savio> sam_, search for compat wireless you'll find good guide for broadcom drivers
[16:12] <hilo> how do I set the default permissions that files/directories are created with?
[16:12] <savio> lionrouge, i think 13.04 will fix that
[16:12] <deadmund> sam_: I can help you personally if you wanna PM me.
[16:12] <jrib> hilo: that's your umask.  What do you want to accomplish exactly?
[16:12] <usr13> sam_: May need jockey-gtk      sudo apt-get install jockey-gtk
[16:13] <lionrouge> savio, if you need ultimate speed, try gentoo ))
[16:14] <usr13> lionrouge: I think it depends on what services you run ....
[16:14] <lionrouge> usr13, surely
[16:15] <lionrouge> a pity, i'm an ubuntu pro
[16:15] <hilo> jrib, files uploaded on my vsftpd are getting 666. There is a umask option in vsftpd.conf, but no matter what I set it to, files are never created with the execute permission. This is an issue because directories created by an FTP client are restricted to listing their contents only.
[16:15] <usr13> lionrouge: Most any stock install can be leaned up or fattened in such a way that it will run slower of faster, so....
[16:15] <lionrouge> if i were you i would check what services are started automatically
[16:16] <lionrouge> and if it's possible configure bash autocomplete
[16:16] <lionrouge> maybe there is some extension for it that slows it down
[16:16] <usr13> lionrouge: I'm not disputing or arguing, just adding info...
[16:16] <jrib> hilo: so directories aren't being created with executable permission?
[16:16] <hilo> jrib, yes precisely
[16:17] <jrib> hilo: and you're creating the directories through ftp?
[16:17] <hilo> Yes. If I mkdir from ssh, it gets the proper execute permission.
[16:18] <cloudy> hilo: have you looked into man umask?
[16:19] <jrib> hilo: seems like some sort of vsftp-specific issue.  What umask did you try in your vsftp settings?
[16:19] <usr13> hilo: See "Umask Settings"  at:  http://www.comptechdoc.org/os/linux/usersguide/linux_ugfilesp.html
[16:19] <hilo> cloudy, somewhat, and everything I read said umask is a basically 777 minus umask, but even umask 000 yields only 666
[16:19] <JPMH> I am running a standard ubunto 12.10 - libreoffice is there but I do not see a "database" option when I hit NEW, what do I need to install to add the data-base
[16:20] <jrib> hilo: that's likely correct behavior for files, but directories should be 777 when you have umask set to 000
[16:20] <hilo> jrib, I tried a whole slew of umasks including 000, 022 as recommended by many google searches
[16:21] <jrib> hilo: yes, 022 is default.  Did they actually make any difference to the permissions?
[16:21] <hilo> jrib, no matter what I set it to, nothing is every created with the execute bit for user group or other
[16:21] <LABcrab> Hey people, how can i successfully create a dial-up server like this (http://www.dreamcast-scene.com/guides/pc-dc-server-guide-win7/)? Every time i tried, it failed.
[16:21] <llutz> hilo have you tried: file_open_mode=0666, local_umask=0022
[16:21] <hilo> jrib, Some of them had an effect removing read or write for other and/or group
[16:21] <hilo> jrib, but nothing seemed to affect user permissions at all
[16:22] <cloudy> hilo: ok
[16:22] <hilo> llutz, I tried without the leading 0 on the latter
[16:22] <JPMH> I found I just need to install libreoffice-base - so thank you
[16:22] <emx> is there a way to add an entry in the context menu of nautilus that opens a terminal with the current directory as working directory?
[16:22] <hilo> llutz, I will try it with that leading 0 now.
[16:23] <escott> emx, there was a naut plugin "open terminal here" not sure if it is still maintained
[16:23] <emx> escott, k,  thanks
[16:23] <jrib> emx: nautilus-open-terminal is the package name for what escott is referencing
[16:23] <MonkeyDust> emx  yeah, it's called nautilus-open-terminal
[16:24] <emx> thanks
[16:26] <hilo> llutz, file_open_mode=0666, local_umask=0022 yields uploaded files with 644
[16:26] <llutz> hilo: which is correct, and dirs?
[16:27] <llutz> hilo: mode 0666 "minus" mask 0022
[16:27] <hilo> llutz, directory looks like drwxr-sr-x
[16:27] <llutz> hilo: 755
[16:28] <escott> hilo, you have setgid that could be messing with things
[16:29] <RickZilla> A little OT: I was looking at the ubuntu wiki, and noticed something called "immutable page"...what is that?
[16:29] <hilo> llutz, how can I get it to be 775? the group needs write perms
[16:29] <RickZilla> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nexus7/Installation
[16:29] <reedos> http://apt.ubuntu.com/p/flashplugin-installer；but:The
[16:29] <llutz> hilo file_open_mode=0666, local_umask=0002
[16:30] <reedos>  http://apt.ubuntu.com/p/flashplugin-installer；but:The package you requested will install shortly---stuck fixed
[16:30] <hilo> escott, that is intentional as I want to ensure a specific group has access to everything below that point
[16:30] <LABcrab> Speak of the devil!
[16:30] <rduplain> How can I issue apt upgrades without automatically stopping/starting daemons? I'd like to manually restart services.
[16:30] <escott> hilo, yes but it also drags permissions of the group with it
[16:31] <llutz> escott: only group-ownership, not permissions
[16:32] <hilo> escott, but it doesn't. The parent group has rwx and new directories only get r-x
[16:32] <discovered> hi
[16:32] <llutz> hilo: it is correct, sgid on dirs only inherits group id, not permissions (on linux-systems)
[16:32] <discovered> anyone know why skype 4.1 crash on Ubuntu ? http://pastebin.com/HZcXDfmf
[16:33] <hilo> llutz, with  file_open_mode=0666, local_umask=0002, files are created perfectly how I want them, but directories still don't get the write permission
[16:33] <Ingenix> I'm trying to mount a smb share with a script, but nothing happens when I execute it. Here is the script: http://goo.gl/7eJzp ideas?
[16:33] <hilo> llutz, on the group that is
[16:33] <llutz> hilo: have you restarted vsftpd?
[16:33] <hilo> llutz, yes sir
[16:33] <escott> llutz, hilo, i stand corrected... always thought the group mask got pulled down as well
[16:33] <hilo> escott, thanks :)
[16:33] <llutz> escott: on bsd/solaris it does iirc
[16:34] <escott> llutz, i would claim that was why i was confused, but i've never actually used a solaris/bsd system
[16:34] <hilo> llutz, nevermind! got it. had to restart the filezilla connection too
[16:35] <hilo> llutz, escott thanks for ringing in. this one has been a thorn for a few days
[16:35] <LABcrab> Alright. Enough with the devil! i'm outta here!
[16:35] <llutz> hilo: aah, just wondered why local_umask doesn't work...
[16:37] <llutz> hilo: and now it's time to switch from ftp to sftp :)
[16:38] <kenperkins> how do I figure out what scheduler I'm using for IO?
[16:38] <hilo> llutz, yes actually, but it looks like ftps is simpler to configure (one line added to the vsftpd.conf and a generated cert). Is there any reason sftp would be a better choice?
[16:38] <Dougie187> Is anyone in here familiar with boost mpi? (I asked my question in #boost but no one is home. :P )
[16:39] <jrib> kenperkins: cat /sys/block/sda/queue/scheduler for example
[16:39] <llutz> hilo: well, with sftp all the traffic is encrypted, its easier to handle by firewalls
[16:39] <kenperkins> jrib: thanks.
[16:39] <hilo> llutz, is some data not encrypted with ftps?
[16:40] <llutz> hilo: isn't ftps only encrypting login-data, and sending traffic open?
[16:40] <kenperkins> so noop [deadline] means what exactly
[16:41] <jrib> kenperkins: deadline is your scheduler
[16:41] <kenperkins> why's noop in there?
[16:41] <jrib> kenperkins: it's your other choice
[16:41] <kenperkins> gotcha, I have two options and [] is selected
[16:41] <kenperkins> ty
[16:43] <LABcrab> Hey room!  i'm looking to share a broadband connection via (the bottleneck) two computers (laptop and Dreamcast) that have their two dial-up modems connected together.  All my attempts have failed so far, so i would appreciate help.
[16:44] <larry_> help please. I have installed 12.04 but photoprint wont work because it cant fine a file (gutenprint) I have the file on a sdram card but it wont allow me to copy it into the lib directory ( permission dnied)
[16:45] <escott> larry_, apt-get install printer-driver-gutenprint
[16:45] <larry_> escott,  can you be alittle more descriptive, i am fairly new to ubuntu
[16:45] <hilo> llutz, according to wikipedia, FTPS can explicitly control what is encrypted or encrypt everything (data and control) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FTPS#Scope_of_use
[16:46] <escott> larry_, you want gutenprint... so install gutenprint. not sure why you are messing around with files on an sd card.
[16:46] <escott> !apt | larry_
[16:47] <hilo> llutz, Of course I'm not sure exactly how all that works though. If what the wikipedia says is true, I would probably set mine to implicit since that supposedly forces encryption on everything
[16:47] <escott> hilo, one issue with ftps is the dynamic data port and NAT
[16:48] <nibbler__> larry_: i's also quiet likely that the file on your sd has the right name, but is build with different parameters, so wont work. open the commandline (ctrl-alt-t) and execute the apt command escott gave you. prepend "sudo" to this
[16:48] <llutz> hilo: better to be on the safe side. sftp is still easier to handle with iptables etc. because it only uses one connection/port
[16:49] <llutz> hilo: but from the security point of view, the differences seem to be marginal (x509 vs ssh-protocol etc)
[16:49] <escott> hilo, personally i would say "sftp" over "ftps" because (a) it is fewer services and includes one you will want to have anyways (b) its easier to manage with iptables/NAT
[16:49] <larry_> thanks ubottu  now on the link.. so need to use the teminal for the command, takes me back many years :)
[16:50] <nibbler__> ...as long as you don't need FXP
[16:50] <larry_> problem is photoprint is i think hard coded to find gutenprnt  at afixed location...
[16:51] <nibbler__> larry_: did you install gutenprint via the apt system?
[16:51] <escott> hilo, this goes into some other lower level issues http://www.codeguru.com/csharp/.net/net_general/internet/article.php/c14329/FTPS-vs-SFTP-What-to-Choose.htm
[16:51] <goddard> google chrome keeps giving me issues.  I delete my cache and even use bleachbit but it is still some how pulling up old data
[16:51] <larry_> no, think when it saw the epson printer it instaklled the drivers direct from epson
[16:51] <goddard> if i use chromium i see my site as it should be
[16:51] <larry_> will try the apt system
[16:52] <larry_> bear with me
[16:52] <thesadmafioso> Hi, if I were to add repositories from a newer distro to my /etc/apt/source.list would I run into trouble?
[16:52] <hilo> llutz, escott, looking into how to set it up with vsftpd. I came across instructions that look nearly identical to FTPS on vsftpd so now I'm not sure the writers really knew which was which
[16:53] <escott> thesadmafioso, yes
[16:53] <Sorinan> I normally use br.archive.ubuntu.com as my apt repo, but it's time to time offline, there's a way to point a backup server to apt? I already tried to use the "deb mirror://" option, but apparently it only selects based on latency, and not consistency.
[16:53] <escott> hilo, if "it=sftp" you cannot set it up for vsftpd. sftp is not ftp. it just acts like ftp
[16:53]  * reedos 晕倒
[16:54] <llutz> hilo: lots of people say sftp but mean ftps, i don#t think vsftpd can act as sftp-server
[16:54] <thesadmafioso> escott: What if there was a package I wanted to grab that I knew I could satisfy all of it's dependencies on my current system, but that package is just not available in my distro repos?
[16:55] <escott> thesadmafioso, that would be unsupported
[16:55] <larry_> : Unable to locate package libgutenprint.so.3
[16:55] <larry_> E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'libgutenprint.so.3'
[16:55] <thesadmafioso> escott: Ok, I understand that, but it could work, right?
[16:56] <hilo> llutz, escott, in that case, I think it may be harder to switch as I spent a lot of time getting the vsftpd set up in a way that FTP users do not have an account on the local server at all.
[16:56] <larry_> the printer works fine, but photoprint wont load because it cant see libgutenprint.so.2 due to hard coding inside
[16:59] <Guest29840> Doesn anybody know how to switch between Citrix session and Ubuntu when in full screen mode? Shift + F2 does not work.
[16:59] <llutz> hilo: the common way is to configure a chrooted-sftp, but users still need an account. for real virtual users you have to go the ftp-way
[16:59] <escott> !find libgutenprint.so.2
[16:59] <escott> larry_, ^^
[17:00] <larry_> will try
[17:02] <larry_> escott,  i get this larry@larry-O-E-M:~$ !find libgutenprint.so.2
[17:02] <larry_> bash: !find: event not found
[17:02] <larry_> larry@larry-O-E-M:~$ sudo apt-get install libgutenprint.so.3
[17:02] <larry_> Reading package lists... Done
[17:02] <larry_> Building dependency tree
[17:02] <larry_> Reading state information... Done
[17:02] <FloodBot1> larry_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:02] <larry_> E: Unable to locate package libgutenprint.so.3
[17:03] <escott> larry_, the package name is libgutenprint2. !find is a command to the bot in this channel
[17:03] <larry_> oops, se what i dont know :)
[17:04] <larry_> !find libgutenprint.so.2
[17:04] <hilo> llutz, Then I'm stuck because the person administering the FTP has minimal linux knowledge. I wrote scripts for adding/modifying/removing users so it would be single command simple. From guides I read on chrooted-sftp, that would be much more difficult a task...
[17:04] <Sorinan> I normally use br.archive.ubuntu.com as my apt repo, but it's time to time offline, there's a way to point a backup server to apt? I already tried to use the "deb mirror://" option, but apparently it only selects based on latency, and not consistency.
[17:04] <hilo> escott, thanks for the link. good comparison article.
[17:05] <macmartine> Anyone know why I'm getting this error when deploying a Rails app to Ubuntu with Unicorn in the gemfile? https://gist.github.com/4221692
[17:05] <escott> hilo, i dont know that it would be substantially harder. the scripts would be different, but i dont think "harder" is a given
[17:06] <jrib> Sorinan: just list them as usual.  List your preferred ones first.  See "man sources.list"
[17:06] <gigglefight> in need of reference webpage on how to install drivers from /xorg/drivers
[17:07] <escott> hilo, i have a bone to pick with llutz characterization of sftp not being able to do "real virtual users." you can set things up with sftp that creates users just as locked out of the system as with ftp. The only difference is you do need to allocate a uid to those users. so part of the sftp vs ftp thing is where you want to manage the user permissons at the system level or at the ftp server level
[17:07] <Sorinan> jrib, but if one of them can't be reached, won't it throw errors on apt-get update?
[17:07] <larry_> it is installed somewhere, but neither photoprint or I can find it
[17:08] <escott> larry_, generally we don't walk around with software on a stick. its all free so you just install what you need on the next machine. walking around with software on a stick is a reaction to proprietary I paid for this and they only gave me one stupidity
[17:08] <coz_> hey guys.. 12.04  how to get mouse over audio play
[17:08] <larry_> is there any way to copy a file from sdram card into a directory  (usr/lib)
[17:09] <escott> larry_, yes but you shouldn't do it
[17:09] <hilo> escott, The current model is such that user permissions are managed by setting the write permission on the filesystem. Since no two users on the FTP ever access the same directory, it is sufficient enough to use the write permission for the vsftpd user to control.
[17:09] <larry_> the problem is  the program photoprint is hard coded to us gutenprint in the usr/lib directory and it isn't there on this distri
[17:10] <RickZilla> coz_: That was on by default at one point, I think it's an mplayer function, but I could be wrong
[17:10] <llutz> escott: "real virtual user" for is a user that is known only by the ftp-subsystem, so no uid, no need to lock him somewhere because the system doesn't know him at all. it might be the wrong term
[17:10] <hilo> escott, you're probably right. It seems harder since I don't fully understand the chain of events for user auth in SFTP. Since the NAT traversal is really the only setback of FTPS that seems to really be a negative that might affect me, I'm focusing more on deciding if the trouble of NAT traversal justifies figuring out how to set up a whole new program and script everything.
[17:10] <escott> llutz, i just think that gives a false sense of security. The user doesn't exist on the system so they cannot do any damage which is FALSE. The user exists on the system to the extent that vsftpd operates on their behalf
[17:11] <llutz> escott: you're right
[17:11] <mindbender1> is it possible to use apt-get to check for a quick summary of an uninstalled package
[17:12] <hilo> escott, llutz, I lol'd a little at all that because 'real virtual user' is a pretty oximoronical statement. :P
[17:12] <escott> hilo, you can do it either way. i prefer the sftp way because I like to be able to see all my users by catting /etc/passwd and manage them all through $HOME. if you had 10000 users for ftp and they all needed different directories but should have no access to the system then sftp probably isn't a great choice since it pollutes the /etc/passwd and $HOME
[17:12] <usr13> mindbender1: apt-cache showpkg package-name
[17:12] <larry_> escott,   the problem is  the program photoprint is hard coded to us gutenprint in the usr/lib directory and it isn't there on this distri
[17:12] <hilo> escott, cool thanks for the info
[17:12] <llutz> hilo: what is really real in this world? :)
[17:12] <hilo> llutz, amen
[17:13] <mindbender1> usr13: thanks
[17:13] <escott> larry_, thats one interpretation... the other interpretation is that you are trying to use a non-portable program across different operating systems instead of just installing the program on each machine
[17:13] <escott> larry_, would you expect to be able to grab a *.exe from Windows 8 and walk it over to a Windows XP machine and have it work?
[17:15] <larry_> escott,  I have installed 12.04 and photoprint on this machine, sadly the program photoprint is hard coded to use gutenprint in the usr/lib directory. in 12.04 that file is installed somewhere else and photoprint wont load becaus eit can't find gutenprint
[17:15] <gigglefight> i've just visited the #xorg irc channel... no luck there
[17:16] <usr13> larry_: Are you talking about a printer driver?
[17:16] <reto> ahahahhh
[17:17] <reto> ciao
[17:17] <escott> larry_, then symlink the library from the desired location
[17:17] <larry_> it is a printer drive i believe. it is installed somewhere and the printer works fine. but photoprint is hard coded to looke elswhere for the driver
[17:18] <larry_> usr13,  it is a printer driver i believe. it is installed somewhere and the printer works fine. but photoprint is hard coded to looke elswhere for the driver
[17:18] <usr13> larry_: As escott suggests, a symlink may be the answer to your problem.
[17:18] <larry_> escott,  no idea ahow to symlink, told you i am inexperienced with ubuntu
[17:19] <usr13> larry_: ln -s /usr/lib/actual/file /usr/lib/sym/link
[17:20] <usr13> larry_: .... where /usr/lib/actual/file is the actual file, and /usr/lib/sym/link  is the file / path the app is looking for.
[17:20] <larry_> thanks usr13 , but i haven't been able to find where the file is installed. it is somewhere different to 10.10
[17:20] <usr13> larry_: ... of course, you'd have to sudo it
[17:21] <larry_> is there a search for file utility like find for windows?
[17:21] <gigglefight> dr_willis: hi
[17:21] <usr13> larry_: find
[17:21] <usr13> larry_: find /usr/ -name file-name-here -type f
[17:21] <larry_> thanks,, will try now.. and close off... food ready :)
[17:21] <escott> larry_, or locate
[17:22] <usr13> larry_: or find /usr/lib/ -name file-name-here -type f   #But find will start at the directory you give it, and go from there on...
[17:30] <Sorinan> the "deb mirror://" option in apt sources.list is constantly trying to contact a server which is offline, there's no way to tell apt to give up on it and try the next one?
[17:31] <usr13> Sorinan: You can [temporarily] dissable that repository.
[17:32] <Sorinan> usr13, hmm, the idea is that the servers could update themselves completely unattended
[17:33] <usr13> Sorinan: YOu can do it via the GUI interface or edit /etc/apt/sources.list, comment it out, and run sudo apt-get update
[17:33] <usr13> Sorinan: Who's idea is that?
[17:34] <Sorinan> usr13, mine :P
[17:34] <usr13> ....sorry, couldn't resist.... thanks for sharing ;)
[17:34] <Sorinan> I mean, I'm trying to achieve a relative independence on the server, next step: taking the world muwahahaha
[17:35] <usr13> Well, if we didn't have a sense of humor, we wouldn't [really] be human.
[17:35] <Sorinan> hahah, tell this to GLaDoS :P
[17:39] <escott> !joke
[17:39] <Hausas> If I hear another Muslim joke, I'm going to explode!
[17:39] <escott> the bot agrees. jokes are for humans
[17:39] <wuffi600> hi
[17:41] <hilo> hi
[17:43] <wuffi600> i'd like to install 12.10 but booting the DVD with an USB-connected DVD-Drive give kernelpanic because no partition to read from could be found. I've copied the iso to an usb stick using unetbootin. But booting this usbstick gives same result (kernel panic). What else can i do to install 12.10 on my asus E35M1?
[17:44] <nucc1> wuffi600, try downloading a fresh copy of the iso?
[17:44] <Guest82237> Will anyone with a working (and bootable) windows 7 HDD, use Unbuntu's app "Disks" to highlight it, take a screenshot, and upload it here? It would be very much appreciated. :)
[17:45] <escott> !checksum | wuffi600
[17:45] <nucc1> wuffi600, also may be worth trying a different brand of usb stick
[17:45] <wuffi600> (btw. booting a debian wheezy iso works from cdrom and from usb stick; so i guess it's a problem with the 3.5.9 kernel)
[17:45] <usr13> Guest82237: Youmean fdisk?
[17:46] <wuffi600> ubottu: md5 sum is correkt, tried 3 different types of usb stick and tried to different types of ide2usb adapters for dvd-drive.
[17:46] <bilbonvidia> anyone familiar with sleepd? It does not seem to be aware of when i have pressed a button on my remote control
[17:46] <Guest82237> usr13: nope. the application called "disks"
[17:46] <wuffi600> nucc1: thankx for hint. if downloaded latest iso 20h ago.
[17:47] <escott> wuffi600, how old is this computer
[17:47] <wuffi600> escott: 8 month
[17:47] <usr13> Guest82237: Unable to locate package disks
[17:47] <escott> wuffi600, efi?
[17:47] <wuffi600> escott: yep
[17:47] <escott> wuffi600, you might try switching it to bios mode
[17:48] <wuffi600> escott: http://www.asus.de/Motherboards/AMD_CPU_on_Board/E35M1I_DELUXE/
[17:48] <Guest82237> usr13: You can download it in the app center
[17:48] <wuffi600> escott: ok, i ll try bios mode .... moent
[17:49] <usr13> Guest82237: Is it testdisk?
[17:49] <usr13> Guest82237: What is the name of it?
[17:50] <usr13> Guest82237: What are you trying to find out?  What is your end goal?
[17:50] <Guest82237> Usr13: No. It's just called "Disks". It manages drives and media
[17:50] <zvacet> Guest82237: what for you need picture
[17:50] <usr13> zvacet: Thank you....
[17:50] <Guest82237> usr13: I'm going to compare it to a windows 7 HDD that is not working and is not bootable.
[17:51] <usr13> Guest82237: Is the drive not working?  Or is the OS just not bootable?
[17:51] <usr13> Guest82237: sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit  #Show us resulting URL
[17:53] <Lope1> Hi I'm running Lubuntu, and aptitude is missing packages, I've just run apt-get update on this PC and another one running mint.
[17:53] <Lope1> The PC running Mint has more packages than this one. for example my Lubuntu (latest version)'s aptitude is missing XChat and xserver-xorg-video-displaylink
[17:53] <hilo> I have another permissions issue, this time with Oracle VirtualBox. Files saved into 'shared folders' from guest systems end up owned by vbox:vbox (which is the user running the vbox processes so that makes sense), and permissions 755 (files and dirs). I would like to change it so that the files are 664 and dirs are 775. Can that be done? And if not, is a cronjob that chmods an unreasonable workaround?
[17:54] <TobiasTheCommie> i just purged fglrx from my system. But now the radeon driver is totally FUBAR
[17:54] <escott> hilo, set the umask for the vbox user
[17:54] <TobiasTheCommie> i get a screen with totally garbled colours
[17:54] <usr13> hilo: See:  www.comptechdoc.org/os/linux/usersguide/linux_ugfilesp.html  #Scroll to bottom.
[17:54] <TobiasTheCommie> anyone got a link handy for radeon issues?
[17:54] <TobiasTheCommie> on the opensource driver that is
[17:55] <usr13> TobiasTheCommie:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto
[17:55] <Lope1> where can I get the apt packages I'm missing?
[17:55] <Guest82237> usr13: /sda3 Is my windows 7 OS drive. /sdb is the windows non system drive. /sdc is the Unbuntu external HDD http://paste.ubuntu.com/1415230/
[17:56] <TobiasTheCommie> usr13: thanks, also just noticed it is bitching about missing /dev/dri/card0 guess that might be the problem
[17:56] <nucc1> Lope1, packages.ubuntu.com ?
[17:56] <zvacet> Lope1: I think ther is no xserver-xorg-video-displaylink in repos check  http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[17:57] <Lope1> zvacet: its showing up on Mint though
[17:57] <zvacet> Lope1: and xchat is in universe repo so enable it (and multiverse too)
[17:58] <Lope1> how do I enable extra repos?
[17:58] <usr13> Sorry, gotta go.  Work is calling...
[17:58] <escott> Lope1, you can do so through software-sources or by editing /etc/apt/sources fiels
[17:58] <zvacet> Lope1: maybe they added it see on http://packages.ubuntu.com/  I can not find that driver there so it is not in repos		
[17:59] <Lope1> my friend who is running mint just sent me this link: http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/xserver-xorg-video-displaylink
[18:01] <Lope1> can I install a driver for precise if I'm running quantal?
[18:01] <TobiasTheCommie> bah, that link was no joy
[18:01] <zvacet> Lope1: then then it is not supported any more I looked in quantal repos
[18:01] <Guest82237> usr13: did you see my pastebin?
[18:02] <Lope1> zvacet: ddid you see my question pls?
[18:02] <escott> Guest82237, he had to take off. what was your question
[18:03] <zvacet> Lope1: yes and I don´t know what to say xorg is updated so some drivers will not work (like mine ) you can try if you want to
[18:03] <kapz> hilo, I want to change the purple/mow colour when i boot my pc, i use ubuntu 12.04, please help.
[18:04] <escott> kapz, look for plymouth themes
[18:04] <Guest82237> Will anyone with a working (and bootable) windows 7 HDD, use Unbuntu's app "Disks" to highlight the drive, take a screenshot, and upload it here? It would be very much appreciated.
[18:04] <kapz> escott, is there any way to modify the default theme?
[18:05] <compdoc> Disks? you mean disk utility?
[18:05] <hilo> escott, usr13, Where do I set the umask value for a specific user? And for directory based permissions control, does this solution work: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/blog/kribor-618996/howto-change-umask-permissions-ownership-etc-of-a-folder-using-bindfs-23934/
[18:06] <bazhang> it's called Disks in 12.10 compdoc
[18:06] <escott> Guest82237,  2      1075MB  108GB   107GB   primary  ntfs            boot
[18:06] <escott> hilo, bindfs seems a bit overkill
[18:07] <escott> hilo, you can set umask in ~/.login or ~/.profile see if that gets parsed when you start vsftpd
[18:09] <escott> Guest82237, thats parted output fdisk is: /dev/sda2   *     2099200   211814399   104857600    7  HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
[18:10] <RickZilla> Yeah for some reason, the "disk utility" app doesn't seem to be there anymore
[18:10] <hilo> escott, sorry it was ambiguous but this is a new separate issue. My vsftpd server is now running exactly how I want minus encryption. Also, since vbox starts up a slew of processes at boot, I'm guessing I'll need to reboot to see if the setting works?
[18:11] <escott> hilo, i saw the vbox thing... just got confused
[18:11] <hilo> escott, the vsftpd is actually a guest on the Oracle VirtualBox Host (also sitting on Ubuntu Server)
[18:11] <Lope1> whats the point in me running the latest distro (quantal) if it doesn't support what precise supported?
[18:12] <escott> hilo, in any case when vbox starts i don't know if it will read ~/.login or not
[18:12] <hilo> escott, okay
[18:12] <zvacet> Lope1: stick with precise you have 5 years support
[18:13] <Lope1> I tried to install the precise driver on my quantal but it said xorg-video-abi-11 is missing
[18:13] <gyre007> anyone here uses perl AWS command line tools ?
[18:13] <hilo> escott, neither ~.profile or ~.login exist, should I just create them
[18:14] <escott> hilo, in vbox's home yes
[18:14] <hilo> escott, okay thanks
[18:14] <zvacet> Lope1: yes truth it is missing  :(
[18:14] <escott> hilo, since vbox may not start a shell i dont know if that gets parsed or not
[18:14] <gyre007> I cant figure out how s3put works I swear :)....s3ls works perfectly fine and lists all files
[18:14] <escott> hilo, also look at http://superuser.com/questions/318833/how-do-you-apply-umask-settings-to-an-account-that-doesnt-log-in
[18:14] <gyre007> but s3put...mmm
[18:15] <zvacet> Lope1: in my opinion it is best for you to run precise and if you want new software you can add it via ppa
[18:16] <RickZilla> I've actually been thinking about retrograding to 12.4 just for the LTS, I hate to think about doing all of this again in a short time
[18:20] <Tommaso> I'm downloading ubuntu i386 on to a macbook and I was wondering what the best way to get it on to an old toshiba satellite pro 4300 laptop. I have a USB flashdrive
[18:20] <Tommaso> can anyone advise
[18:21] <Tommaso> ?
[18:21] <RickZilla> Tommaso start here http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[18:22] <inthl> I downloaded knoppix to use dd on an unounted partition when knoppix is started - the filename is KNOPPIX_V7.0.4DVD-2012-08-20-EN.iso - I do have an USB flash drive (8GB in size), can I use dd to get it on the flash drive? I did so just before and the flash drive was not bootable. Is this correct? dd bs=1M if=/.../KNOPPIX_V7.0.4DVD-2012-08-20-EN.iso of=/dev/sdx - where x is the letter of the flash drive
[18:22] <Tommaso> Thanks RickZilla
[18:22] <BigC85> RickZilla agreed best way to do it
[18:23] <bazhang> inthl, how does this relate to ubuntu
[18:24] <zvacet> bazhang	: maybe he is tring to do it from ubuntu
[18:24] <bazhang> zvacet, thats not a reason to ask about knoppix here
[18:25] <bazhang> inthl, with the latest Ubuntu iso, you can simply cat the iso to the usb flash stick
[18:25]  * RickZilla is away: afk
[18:25] <bazhang> RickZilla, disable that
[18:26] <codephobic> hi
[18:26] <Guest82237> escott: Sorry I am a noob, that looks like random data to me.
[18:26] <escott> Guest82237, then why did you ask for it? your disks look fine
[18:26] <BlackWidow> i need some help
[18:26] <Guest82237> because the OS won't boot
[18:26] <RickZilla> sorry
[18:26] <BlackWidow> i'm running ubuntu desktop and i'd like to install win
[18:26] <zvacet> BlackWidow:yes?
[18:26] <BlackWidow> wine
[18:26] <bazhang> BlackWidow, ask the channel then
[18:27] <frankko__> hmm unity crashed again..
[18:27] <BlackWidow> ubuntu software center tells me to check my internet connection
[18:27] <bazhang> BlackWidow, on a single LINE
[18:27] <zvacet> !wine | BlackWidow
[18:27] <codephobic> quick question, I've got 8GB RAM and I'm running Ubuntu 12.10. For some reason my memory stats recently have been showing 1.2GB of RAM in use and 4.1GB of cache, is this normal? Is this optimal? and if not, could this be the result of moving lots of files between drives and suffering the occasional crash?
[18:27] <bekks> codephobic: Yes, it is normal.
[18:28] <zvacet> BlackWidow: enable universe repo
[18:28] <bekks> codephobic: The more RAM is used, the less RAM is lying around being wasted.
[18:28] <codephobic> bekks, but doesn't that amount of cache seem... excessive? I've only recently noticed the cache usage at this level.
[18:29] <larry_> hi
[18:29] <codephobic> It made me wonder if my system wasn't carrying too many temp files or something, that's all.
[18:30] <bekks> codephobic: Just be happy about your intelligent OS caching everything that might be used again and not letting your RAM lying around unused. :)
[18:30] <signil> hey
[18:30] <Guest82237> Hello. I am trying to compare a WORKING windows 7 HDD in Ubuntu's 12.10 app called "Disks" (you can download it in the market) to a NON WORKING Windows 7 disk. Will anyone with a WORKING windows 7 HDD use the app "Disks" to highlight it, take a screenshot of their working windows 7 HDD and paste the uploaded image's url here?
[18:30] <signil> could someone help me out
[18:30] <larry_> does 12.04 have any advantages over 10.10
[18:30] <bekks> larry_: Yes. 12.04 is supported, 10.10 isnt anymore.
[18:30] <gyre007> does anyone know of any good AWS tools ?
[18:30] <signil>  I created a fortune cookie file  for my boyfriend (I hope this catches somebodys god damn attention around here!!!)
[18:31] <signil> all the quotes separated by %
[18:31] <bazhang> signil, no cursing here
[18:31] <codephobic> bekks, well that's a good point. I guess I get a little anxious with 12.10 ... not had the best experience with this upgrade.
[18:31] <larry_> becaus ethe menuing is really long winded, photo print does not work and god knows what they have done to firefox
[18:31] <zvacet> !ask | signil
[18:31] <compdoc> fortune cookie file? whats that?
[18:31] <signil> convert to a .dat
[18:31] <signil> but on running :~$ fortune myfortunecookie from the command line
[18:32] <larry_> bekks,  12.04 needs support, 10.1 works
[18:32] <signil> it vomits the entire text onto the screen
[18:32] <bekks> larry_: and 10.10 is unsupported.
[18:32] <larry_> it does not need support, it works
[18:32] <bazhang> !eolupgrades | larry_
[18:33] <bazhang> larry_, did you have an actual support question?
[18:33] <codephobic> thanks bekks
[18:33] <signil> I guess it can't seem to recognize % between the quotes because it dumps everything in the text file onto the screen
[18:33] <BlackWidow> i'm running ubuntu desktop, which file should i download if i want to install flash player
[18:33] <BlackWidow> .tar.gz, yum or .rpm?
[18:33] <larry_> well i have been trying to use 12.04 for several days and am seriously thinking of either sticking to 10.1 or going back to win xp
[18:34] <bazhang> BlackWidow, none of those
[18:34] <zvacet> BlackWidow: install it from software center
[18:34] <BlackWidow> ok 1 sec
[18:34] <bazhang> larry_, well lets troubleshoot 12.04
[18:34] <larry_> bazhang,  yes, i would loke photoprint to load and run. it wont because 12.04 has hidden libgutenprint from it
[18:34] <BlackWidow> my software center is already installing Wine right now
[18:35] <bazhang> BlackWidow, wait for it to finish then
[18:35] <BlackWidow> is it ok if i navigate away from that in software center?
[18:35] <BlackWidow> ahh ok
[18:35] <phunyguy_work> software center will queue installs.
[18:35] <escott> Guest82237, thats not going to tell you anything useful
[18:35] <bazhang> larry_, photoprint? is that some wine app?
[18:35] <cloudy> larry_: you might want to look into xubuntu 12.04 , or Linux mint 13
[18:35] <BlackWidow> which version of windows will my wine attempt to use?
[18:35] <bazhang> cloudy, dont recommend MINT here, its not supported
[18:36] <larry_> nope, native ubuntu, in the software centre
[18:36] <zvacet> BlackWidow: I think you will choose that when you start wine
[18:36] <cloudy> bazhang: sorry - won't do it again
[18:36] <BlackWidow> do i need a windows software installation cd for that?
[18:36] <bazhang> BlackWidow, for wine? no
[18:37] <BlackWidow> bazhang: which torrent client can i use on my ubuntu desktop?
[18:37] <signil> Hello EVERYBODY! I created a fortune cookie file, containing all the quotes separated by %. Convert that to a .dat and move it under /usr/share/games/fortunes
[18:37] <signil> But on running "fortune myfortunefile" from the command line, it vomits the entire text onto the screen. I guess it can't seem to recognize % between the quotes as a separator because it dumps everything in the text file onto the screen. PLEASE SUGGEST! :(
[18:37] <bazhang> BlackWidow, what app did you want to run in wine
[18:38] <bazhang> BlackWidow, deluge, transmission or others, up to you
[18:38] <phunyguy_work> BlackWidow, transmission
[18:38] <BlackWidow> i wanted to run photoshop cs6, flash cs6 and dreamweaver cs6
[18:38] <BlackWidow> ok i'm getting qbittorrent right now
[18:38] <heoyea> BlackWidow: use virtualbox
[18:38] <BigC85> BlackWidow I use Deluge
[18:38] <bazhang> BlackWidow, so check the appdb and see how well they run in wine
[18:38] <bazhang> !appdb | BlackWidow
[18:38] <DrManhattan> I am booting in text mode. I am using nvidia-current. I am not getting any kind of text in between the grub menu and the login prompt.
[18:38] <phunyguy_work> BlackWidow, there are comparable alternatives to that software as well.
[18:38] <frankko> how do i get a systray in unity?
[18:39] <skrite> hey all
[18:39] <DrManhattan> if i use nvidia-experimental I get the text properly but I don't have a framebuffer device
[18:39] <hilo> escott, I am trying to follow the link you sent and when I use that touch command to test the defaults, I get permission denied. Why would touch throw back permission denied even with sudo?
[18:39] <BlackWidow> bazhang: if i want to run photoshop cs6, dreamweaver cs6 and flash cs6 inside of wine, is that better than using virtual box?
[18:39] <phunyguy_work> hilo, if you arent in the sudoers file it will.
[18:40] <hilo> phunyguy_work, same account I sudo with all the time for everything else
[18:40] <bazhang> BlackWidow, no idea. check the appdb link to check
[18:40] <signil> Hello EVERYBODY! I created a fortune cookie file, containing all the quotes separated by %. Convert that to a .dat and move it under /usr/share/games/fortunes
[18:40] <signil> But on running "fortune myfortunefile" from the command line, it vomits the entire text onto the screen. I guess it can't seem to recognize % between the quotes as a separator because it dumps everything in the text file onto the screen. PLEASE SUGGEST! :(
[18:40] <phunyguy_work> making sure.
[18:40] <phunyguy_work> :)
[18:40] <bazhang> signil, patience please
[18:40] <BlackWidow> what is appdb?
[18:40] <bazhang> BlackWidow,  a database
[18:40] <hilo> escott, phunyguy_work nevermind I figured out why
[18:40] <phunyguy_work> !appdb | BlackWidow
[18:41] <phunyguy_work> :)
[18:41] <BlackWidow> ahh ok, i'm checking out their website right now
[18:41] <phunyguy_work> hilo, care to share the reason?
[18:41] <phunyguy_work> if not, ok.
[18:42] <BlackWidow> how do i cancel my installation of Win
[18:42] <BlackWidow> Wine
[18:42] <BlackWidow> i'd like to cancel it so I can try virtual box
[18:42] <K350> What twitter app would you guys recommend?
[18:42] <bazhang> BlackWidow, let it run is better, then remove
[18:43] <BlackWidow> my install of Wine seems to be halted at half way point, unless its a big app?
[18:43] <Lope1> Hi I've got a USB monitor I'm trying to get running on 12.04. Is anyone familiar with this?
[18:43] <bazhang> BlackWidow, is it already configuring packages?
[18:45] <BlackWidow> no, i dont think so
[18:45] <lov> I've got a question about multiple desktops. I think this is new to unity, but moving the mouse from one desktop to another has "sticky" behavior where the mouse waits at the edge of one screen for about a second. Is there any way to change this behavior?
[18:45] <BlackWidow> the installation progress bar shows that it's stuck at halfway right now
[18:46] <phunyguy_work> lov, under the display settings
[18:46] <phunyguy_work> it is called "Sticky Edges
[18:46] <lov> Aha!
[18:46] <lov> Thanks phunyguy_work!
[18:46] <hilo> phunyguy_work, the command was "sudo -u <user> touch FILE" and I'm so used to thinking if I sudo, I don't have to worry about perms, but in this case since sudo is being used not to become root, but to become <user>, I still needed to pay a bit more attention to where I was 'touching'
[18:46] <neweruser123> my windows 8 just screwed up all my files were on it!!!!!!!!!!
[18:46] <ikonia> neweruser123: calm down
[18:47] <ikonia> neweruser123: explain how you need ubuntu support
[18:47] <neweruser123> should I wipe the whole HDD and reinstall win 8
[18:47] <neweruser123> then ubuntu latest
[18:47] <neweruser123> years worth of work in win7 i upgrade to win8 and i get screwed over
[18:47] <ikonia> neweruser123: not interested in your windows complaint
[18:47] <bazhang> !ot | neweruser123
[18:47] <ikonia> neweruser123: interested in how you need ubuntu support
[18:47] <seednode> I'm sure #windows would love to hear it.
[18:47] <bazhang> ##windows neweruser123
[18:48] <neweruser123> piece of shite windows
[18:48] <larry_> does anyone have  any experience running photoprint in 12.04?
[18:48] <seednode> Cool, I'm no longer banned in ##windows
[18:48] <bazhang> larry_, let me try
[18:48] <hilo> neweruser123, You can probably use Ubuntu live to get your data. It would really surprise me if your upgrade to 8 actually deleted anything unless you did a 'format'
[18:48] <bazhang> hilo, hes gone
[18:49] <hilo> bazhang, darn lol
[18:49] <seednode> ikonia: Wait, did you ban him, or kick him/
[18:49] <erictr1ck> i am using 12.10 64 with dual monitors, primary monitor on the right and secondary on the left. however, some of my 'additional' taskbar icons (pidgin,spotify) only show up in the secondary left monitor. how can i make it so they either show up in both monitors or even better, only have a systray on my primary monitor?
[18:49] <seednode> A ban seems a bit harsh.
[18:49] <larry_> bazhang,  would be pleased. it wont run because it cant find a file that it is hard coded to find in usr/lib
[18:49] <bazhang> seednode, lets move on please
[18:49] <seednode> I'm just curious.
[18:49] <bazhang> larry_, installing now
[18:50] <larry_> bazhang,  it wants libgutenprint.so.2 but that gets installed somewhere other than usr/lib
[18:50] <m000gle> I installed the experimantal-310 nVidia drivers, today, using 12.10's Software Sources Additional Drivers tab, but upon reinstallation neither Unity nor Gnome-Shell will work.  The former shows a blank screen, displaying only the wallpaper but no panel/launcher/icons; while the latter simply reverts to fallback mode.
[18:50] <m000gle> Using Cinnamon, however, works fine, so the driver itself is clearly functioning ... Does anyone know how to fix this?
[18:50] <neweruser123> yo what the hell u kicked me out the room
[18:50] <neweruser123> i wanted to know what OS is ment to be installed first
[18:51] <ikonia> neweruser123: windows should be the first OS installed
[18:51] <neweruser123> how do i install ubuntu after
[18:51] <BigC85> newuser install win first
[18:51] <neweruser123> without removing win
[18:51] <ikonia> !install | neweruser123
[18:51] <neweruser123> i want to use CD
[18:51] <larry_> yes, and better stilll newuser install windows using fat32, the ubuntu works better
[18:52] <ikonia> larry_: please don't talk nonsense
[18:52] <neweruser123> is fast32 faster ?
[18:52] <ikonia> neweruser123: ignore what larry is saying
[18:52] <neweruser123> oh ok
[18:52] <BigC85> theres an option durring ubuntu install says install alongside win
[18:52] <nathandim> neweruser123 just resize the partition through administrating tools after the installation is complete
[18:52] <ikonia> neweruser123: read the url ubottu has just given you
[18:52] <larry_> nope neweruser123  but ubuntu is not always reliable with ntfs
[18:53] <ikonia> larry_: please stop
[18:53] <bazhang> larry_, thats not correct
[18:53] <neweruser123> what url
[18:53] <ikonia> you don't install ubuntu to NTFS, it goes to it's own partition with a linux native file system
[18:53] <ikonia> !install | neweruser123
[18:53] <lov> 13:52:11 < ubottu> neweruser123: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs -  See also !automate
[18:53] <bazhang> lov, ?
[18:53] <larry_> i know  that but it is better to install windows on a fat32 partition
[18:54] <ikonia> larry_: no, it's not
[18:54] <ikonia> please stop
[18:54] <bazhang> larry_, last warning
[18:54] <ikonia> bazhang: he's reminding him of ubottus comment
[18:54] <neweruser123> is my hardware compatible
[18:54] <neweruser123> i have had no sound for 3 months
[18:54] <ikonia> neweruser123: you'll need to research that for yourself
[18:54] <neweruser123> what Ubuntu OS do i use
[18:54] <neweruser123> xubuntu ?
[18:54] <neweruser123> or just ubuntu
[18:54] <FloodBot1> neweruser123: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:54] <bazhang> neweruser123, try a live cd and decide
[18:54] <ikonia> neweruser123: whatever one you like best
[18:55] <Zael> so, i was compiling something and it started getting weird errors... so i decided to try to delete the source and start over, and got read only file system error, so i decided to restart.. upon restarting i got a message on boot that an error had been detected with my disk, and it could attempt to repair it.. so i said repair... and it rebooted and everything seems ok for the time being..
[18:55] <Zael> my question is, where do i look to see what that error was all about
[18:56] <neweruser123> shud i go for the latest ubuntu though
[18:56] <escott> Zael, disk is probably failing. check the smart status in the "disks" applicaiton
[18:56] <neweruser123> i dont have time to try things out i like ubuntu current design
[18:56] <ikonia> neweruser123: if you like it best, sure
[18:57] <neweruser123> can i open my hdd in ubuntu back up my windows files then reinstall OS
[18:57] <Zael> will do that escott; i've been hearing some spinning and some quiet click when it does like every few days... so i figured...
[18:57] <Zael> but i'm wondering if there's a log or something i can look at as well
[18:57] <neweruser123> i have like loads of work, Nuts magazines, games etc...
[18:57] <ikonia> neweruser123: sure
[18:57] <escott> Zael, smart status
[18:57] <Zael> smart checked out fine on all drives the other day, but i'll check it again
[18:57] <neweruser123> how can i access that folder
[18:58] <ikonia> neweruser123: mount it
[18:58] <ikonia> neweruser123: the liveCD should auto mount it for you
[18:59] <escott> Zael, otherwise you need to look at the syslog for kernel messages but it will almost surely be an io error that dropped you to read-only mode
[19:00] <phunyguy_work> escott, Zael, I have also seen faulty memory cause strange filesystem behavior.
[19:00] <JonJ> I've been trying to get murmur to run on this machine, but whenever I start mumble-server it gives no errors, logs look fine, but the port isn't opened in the system. I ran iptables -I INPUT -p tcp -dport 64738 -j ASCCEPT both with tcp and udp, still no dice. ANyone know how to get it to run?
[19:01] <hilo> neweruser123, when you load the LIVE ubuntu image from CD, you will be able to browse to the windows drive and copy and paste stuff off of it. You will need a flash drive, external or some other storage that is separate from windows.
[19:01] <neweruser123> will USB 3.0 portable harddrive work
[19:02] <neweruser123> i have like 50gb worth of content to move around
[19:02] <escott> Zael, if you are hearing clicks that you weren't hearing before you should be shopping for a new disk
[19:02] <hilo> neweruser123, most likely
[19:02] <escott> Zael, even if the smart is clean i would get a new disk
[19:02] <shadow98> hey guys when laptop screen goes into lock mode vino-server stops running
[19:02] <shadow98> how do i prevent this from happening?
[19:03] <hilo> Zael, you should backup all the content on that drive and replace it. It will fail, and likely soon.
[19:03] <phunyguy_work> shadow98, are you sure the machine isnt going into a sleep state?
[19:03] <ikonia> neweruser123: yes
[19:03] <Zael> yeah, i see the io error
[19:03] <Zael> and where it remounted ro
[19:03] <shadow98> well im able to ssh
[19:04] <phunyguy_work> ok, shadow98, just making sure
[19:04] <shadow98> i was just at the house and it worked from my android phone
[19:04] <shadow98> drove back to work and its not working from desktop
[19:05] <hilo> shadow98, Consider an alternative VNC server. Vino has known issues with Unity. I use X11vnc, and it works very well including the ability to remote in even when the machine is not logged on at all.
[19:05] <shadow98> hilo: i thought about NX
[19:06] <nidazole> JonJ: i guess the packets drop in return. is it work without iptables?
[19:07] <hilo> shadow98, I've never used it, looks proprietary. There are a number of VNC alternatives though and that one might work great for you.
[19:07] <JonJ> nidazole: Not that I can tell no, I also tried the vanilla version from mumbles site and the same issue. The program starts, but doesn't seem to want to "bind" to the port so to speak
[19:08] <JonJ> I installed mumble-django and the website works and I can log into it. Whenever I try to make a change though, python throws various exceptions at me
[19:09] <K350> Any nice twitter app to recommend for us ein ubuntu?
[19:09] <heoyea> K350: turses
[19:11] <phunyguy_work> JonJ I would check what python version it requires.  default in 12.10 is 2.7
[19:11] <phunyguy_work> 2.7.3 is what I have on mine
[19:14] <tre> How can I download package with its dependencies if it is already installed on my ubuntu 12.04 and doesn't exist in a cache?
[19:15] <escott> !offline | tre
[19:15] <K350> heoyea: Didn't find it int the3 repo But I'll googel it up  thanks!:-)
[19:15] <tre> ubottu: I need to do it on my machine
[19:15] <K350> heoyea: It's not in the repo. But I'll google it up. Thanks!:-
[19:16] <tre> damn(
[19:16] <nucc1> tre you can do all that on your machine
[19:16] <larry_> bazhang,  how far did you get with photoprint ?
[19:16] <tre> nucc1: how? As I understand synaptic is already checked all packages (that I need and don't)
[19:17] <jiffe98> why is 'PermitRootLogin yes' set in /etc/ssh/sshd_config?
[19:17] <jiffe98> that just seems like a bad idea
[19:17] <ikonia> there is not root password
[19:17] <hilo> jiffe98, your root account should not have a pw
[19:17] <ikonia> so you can't login anyway
[19:17] <InspectorCluseau> tre use the package manager to reinstall or remove and reinstall
[19:17] <llutz> jiffe98: it IS a bad idea and needs to be changed, even if the root-acccount is locked
[19:17] <jiffe98> ikonia: but if you set a root password then you can
[19:18] <ikonia> jiffe98: yes, and if you disable PermitRootLogin you cant
[19:18] <jiffe98> yeah so I would think the default should be PermitRootLogin no
[19:18] <ikonia> jiffe98: why ?
[19:18] <root> hi
[19:18] <jiffe98> why should it be yes?
[19:18] <escott> !ot | jiffe98
[19:18] <phunyguy_work> jiffe98, I would go out on a limb and say you are corrext... for a hardened server....
[19:18] <ikonia> jiffe98: so that certain automated funtions via secure ssh keyparis can happen on servers
[19:19] <escott> jiffe98, you can put your comments in a bug report if you really want to
[19:19] <Guest92746> Have a broken HD, does anyone know if there is any way to recover some of the data?
[19:19] <Guest92746> It won't even show up when I boot onto linux from an usb...
[19:20] <phunyguy_work> Guest92746, Not sure on Linux, but some places will do it for a fee...
[19:20] <phunyguy_work> if Ubuntu can't see it, then I am afraid there isn't much hope.
[19:20] <Guest92746> it's not a linux machine, just booted into linux to see if I could mount the HD to recover some files
[19:20] <phunyguy_work> anything beyond Ubuntu is beyond the scope of this channel
[19:20] <Guest92746> ok ^^
[19:22] <escott> phunyguy_work, a bit harsh. you could have pointed him to testdisk and photorec before that
[19:22] <phunyguy_work> escott, sorry
[19:22] <ikonia> pointless if the disk is dead
[19:22] <hilo> Guest92746, you will likely need to send it to a serious data recovery firm. They tend to charge anywhere from $100-$5000 depending on the circumstances.
[19:22] <phunyguy_work> ikonia, agreed.
[19:23] <Ash_> hey.. could i have some help please?
[19:23] <phunyguy_work> !ask | Ash_
[19:23] <hilo> Ash_ question
[19:24] <Ash_> Well.... when updating my files.. it says that there is not enough disk space on my boot... how do i clean boot and get these updates working again?
[19:24] <FalsAlarm> which linux distro is most like windows?
[19:24] <FalsAlarm> i'm looking for an easy to use distro
[19:24] <ikonia> FalsAlarm: none
[19:24] <FalsAlarm> that has a gui for everything
[19:25] <escott> FalsAlarm, which windows 3.1, 95, or 8
[19:25] <ikonia> FalsAlarm: I suggest researching on distro watch
[19:25] <mysteriousdaren> FalseAlarm: Each has something special depending on what your looking for.
[19:25] <FalsAlarm> ikonia, i want to be able to run photoshop cs6, flash cs6 and dreamweaver cs6 on it
[19:25] <escott> FalsAlarm, then you want windows
[19:25] <ikonia> FalsAlarm: not going to happen
[19:25] <ikonia> use windows
[19:26] <FalsAlarm> but i'm trying to develop a facebook app
[19:26] <ikonia> (r by a mac)
[19:26] <FalsAlarm> and the heroku hosting is free
[19:26] <ikonia> developing a facebook app as nothing to do with linux
[19:26] <FalsAlarm> heroku free hosting uses git
[19:26] <FalsAlarm> can i use git from within dreamweaver is what i want to do
[19:26] <escott> FalsAlarm, virtualbox?
[19:26] <ikonia> there are git clients on windows
[19:27] <ikonia> FalsAlarm: ask adobe for dreamweaver help
[19:27] <escott> FalsAlarm, msysgit
[19:27] <Ash_> Which Files can I delete from my /boot safely?
[19:27] <misterroboto> Hello, I need seamonkey, but sudo-apt get install seamonkey does not do the trick
[19:27] <Guido-5> dude gnome shell is the shit
[19:27] <FalsAlarm> escott, i found https://github.com/ChrisMcKee/gitweaver but i dont know how to install it into my dreamweaver
[19:27] <escott> Ash_, why do you need to delete files from /boot
[19:27] <Guido-5> screw you windows
[19:27] <Guido-5> :P
[19:27] <ikonia> FalsAlarm: you went through this before as blackwidow
[19:27] <ikonia> FalsAlarm: drop it it
[19:28] <Ash_> My updates are not 'updating' and i need to free disk space
[19:28] <ikonia> join ##windows - or contact adobe
[19:28] <FalsAlarm> ikonia, i never found out how to install gitweaver into my dreamweaver yet
[19:28] <ikonia> FalsAlarm: nothing to do with this channel
[19:28] <misterroboto> How do I add seamonkey to the software repository?
[19:28] <ikonia> FalsAlarm: contact adobe
[19:28] <escott> Ash_, but why /boot. do you have a separate /boot
[19:29] <FalsAlarm> ikonia, does adobe have a irc channel ?
[19:29] <Ash_> No... it says it needs a total of 24.9m free disk space on /boot and additiomal 8196k of disk space on boot
[19:29] <FalsAlarm> there forums are a mess
[19:29] <ikonia> FalsAlarm: no idea.
[19:30] <shvelo> Hi, I have old Asus Eee PC and I need something lighter than Unity, which is better, Xubuntu or Lubuntu?
[19:30] <bazhang> shvelo, for that, lubuntu
[19:31] <misterroboto> shvelo, lubuntu
[19:31] <shvelo> thanks
[19:31] <larry_> bazhang,  how far did you get with photoprint ?
[19:31] <misterroboto> Seamonkey does not even surface in my software repository
[19:31] <misterroboto> weird
[19:31] <misterroboto> I need that software
[19:31] <escott> Ash_, sounds like you do have a separate /boot. if you open a terminal and run <<dpkg -l "linux-image*">> it will list the installed kernels. you can select and older one and "sudo apt-get remove copy-paste-the-package-name-with-version"
[19:32] <jjgalvez__> is there anyway to have both firefox32 and firefox64 both installed on the say system, and use different plugins?
[19:32] <ikonia> jjgalvez__: it would be very scrappy
[19:32] <ikonia> and outside of the repo software
[19:32] <escott> jjgalvez__, my guess is no, but you could try to apt-get install firefox:i386
[19:32] <ikonia> it would have the same location as firefox 64
[19:32] <daauzon> hello
[19:33] <jjgalvez__> escott: I tried that and it wanted to remove firefox
[19:33] <ikonia> the two packages would conflict
[19:33] <jjgalvez__> ikonia: that's what I was afraid of.
[19:33] <larry_> bye all
[19:33] <escott> jjgalvez__, then im going to upgrade my answer to "no"
[19:33] <daauzon> I need help with being able to load grub from a PenDrive to choose 2 operating systems that are installed on separate partitions on the PenDrive.
[19:33] <ikonia> daauzon: what are the OS's ?
[19:34] <daauzon> ikonia: Win7 and Ubuntu 12.04
[19:34] <ikonia> daauzon: ok, so that should be fine, just treat the pendrive as a hard disk
[19:34] <ikonia> daauzon: it's the same principals as installing both to a hard disk
[19:34] <escott> daauzon, if the bios supports it (but most newer ones will)
[19:35] <daauzon> well my  BIOS shows the flash drive as HDD.
[19:35] <Ash_> Not working for me :(
[19:35] <daauzon> So do I edit my curreny grub to show the PenDrive partitions or do I install a new Grub on the PenDrive?
[19:36] <ikonia> daauzon: I'd suggest putting grub on the pen drive so it's a bootable device directly
[19:36] <escott> Ash_, paste.ubuntu.com the terminal session
[19:37] <shvelo> can you recommend a cheap laptop suitable for Android and web development? which will have good Ubuntu support of course
[19:37] <daauzon> os so I just do grub-install /dev/sdX. And how do I configure it to find the 2 OSs on the same device?
[19:37] <Ash_> Command not found
[19:37] <ikonia> daauzon: I'd suggest re-installing ubuntu to the pen drive applying grub to the pendrive from the installer
[19:37] <daauzon> I'm already running Ubuntu from HDD.
[19:37] <ikonia> daauzon: that way all the internal files will reference the pen drive
[19:38] <ikonia> daauzon: so you've not installed it to the pen drive yet ?
[19:38] <daauzon> no. I have 3 partitions on the pendrive. 1 for a bootloader, 1 for Win7 and 1 for Ubuntu.
[19:38] <ikonia> daauzon: one for a bootloader ??
[19:38] <ikonia> the boot loader doesn't live on it's own partition
[19:39] <ikonia> (if you mean grub as the boot loader)
[19:39] <daauzon> yes I was going to use SuperGrub2Disk, but it doesnt detect the OSs
[19:39] <escott> daauzon, one concern i have with that... windows treats pen drives in weird ways (at least xp does) so ive never been able to get windows to create a disk label for anything but the first partition on a pen drive
[19:39] <escott> Ash_, ok
[19:39] <ikonia> daauzon: install ubuntu to the pen drive - make sure the installer references the pendrive for the installtion of grub
[19:39] <ikonia> daauzon: job done
[19:40] <daauzon> and then how would i load windows7 from the pendrive if I wanted to?
[19:40] <ikonia> daauzon: grub will see the OS on the pendrive and add a menu item
[19:40] <daauzon> so I should install Win7 on the drive first, right?
[19:40] <ikonia> daauzon: so when you boot the pendrive you'll get grub that's installed on the pendrive as the boot loader
[19:41] <ikonia> daauzon: you already have windows on the pendrive (I thought you said)
[19:41] <misterroboto> I think my ubuntu install is borked
[19:41] <heoyea> get ducktape
[19:41] <daauzon> Right right. so just install Ubuntu to the drive and I should be set.
[19:41] <ikonia> daauzon: pretty much
[19:41] <misterroboto> Software installed does not show up in the menu and I cannot get software I need
[19:42] <misterroboto> weird
[19:42] <heoyea> run in terminal
[19:42] <misterroboto> heoyea, doesn't work either
[19:43] <ikonia> define "doesn't work"
[19:43] <escott> Ash_, without knowing what you are doing... can't do much to help you
[19:43] <misterroboto> http://pastebin.com/AGf79m7S
[19:43] <misterroboto> ikonia, Please see pastebin
[19:43] <ikonia> misterroboto: "root" ?? really
[19:43] <Ash_> well I am going through my boot files.. and trying to see which ones i can delete safely
[19:44] <misterroboto> ikonia, to install programs
[19:44] <ikonia> misterroboto: thats what "sudo" is for
[19:44] <misterroboto> ikonia, You mean programs can be installed without root? Really?
[19:44] <ikonia> misterroboto: also jocky isn't part of 12.10, are you using 12.10 ?
[19:44] <misterroboto> ikonia, I am tryint to use "additional drivers"
[19:45] <ikonia> misterroboto: then why are you typing "jocky"
[19:45] <misterroboto> ikonia, there is no option in the menu
[19:45] <ikonia> misterroboto: because it's gone in 12.10
[19:45] <ikonia> as I've just said
[19:45] <heoyea> misterroboto: jocky-gtk
[19:45] <escott> Ash_, i've told you the way to do this properly. all you have said is "command not found" and "doesn't work"
[19:46] <Ash_> thats what the terminal told me :(
[19:46] <heoyea> misterroboto: i missed the e so is jockey-gtk
[19:46] <misterroboto> okay, how do I ensure my graphics card has the software I need?
[19:46] <h00k>  /11
[19:46] <h00k> bah.
[19:50] <escott> Ash_, i ran a command and my terminal told me "Access: (0755/drwxr-xr-x)  Uid: (    0/    root)   Gid: (    0/    root)" can you guess what it was
[19:50] <heoyea> misterroboto: by installing the drivers
[19:51] <misterroboto> heoyea, Oh gee thanks
[19:51] <escott> Ash_, ill give you 20 questions, and start you out with not an animal, vegetable or mineral
[19:51] <misterroboto> Just install the right stuff
[19:51] <escott> Ash_, without telling me what you typed in the terminal i really cant help you
[19:51] <Ash_> okay.... Sorry.. I am a bit daft arent I?
[19:51] <shadow98> i dragged firefox icon's to the desktop....i created 3 profiles...how do i change the icon for these different icon's on 12.10
[19:51] <heoyea> misterroboto: yea should give u a list of drivers u can install
[19:52] <misterroboto> Okay, how do I install seamonkey? I cannot sudo apt-get it, nor is it in the coftware centre
[19:52] <misterroboto> software
[19:52] <nidazole> hello everyone! anyone cane help me about how to image a RAID 5 server with 3 SCSI disks by dd command or something ... and combine those to one image? i am trying to boot its OS in VMWare!! the tool i launch the dd images to vmdk is LIVEVIEW but that accepts one disk image for Source image!
[19:52] <escott> Ash_, go to paste.ubuntu.com and copy paste your terminal session so i can see what you are doing
[19:53] <teskew> in unity, when clicking on the messaging indicator and then selecting empathy, the empathy chat list does not focus. i see it "shake" in the sidebar/dock, but it doesn't focus. is this normal behavior?
[19:53] <Ash_> my terminal screen is blank currently
[19:54] <heoyea> misterroboto: aptitude search seamonkey
[19:54] <huismon> is it possible to netboot off http instead of nfs?
[19:54] <ikonia> huismon: yes
[19:55] <heoyea> sure
[19:55] <huismon> ikonia, link, or what should i google to get documentation?
[19:55] <ZwiiiT> Hi thur! I have a i7 with hyperthreading and wanted to disable it,. I have 8 cpu`s listed, so witch one would i disable? Tried to run "echo 0 > /sys/devices/system/node/node0/cpu*/online " where * is 1,3,5,7.
[19:55] <huismon> this is a pxe/dhcp then netboot off an iso on http
[19:55] <ZwiiiT> But is that the right way?
[19:55] <huismon> that's my goal anyways
[19:55] <ikonia> just change the header to http
[19:55] <nidazole> the md0 image through RAID software controller doesnt bootable.
[19:56] <misterroboto> heoyea, hmm, nothing that I need surfaces
[19:56] <escott> ZwiiiT, you disable in the bios
[19:56] <misterroboto> heoyea, thanks anyways
[19:56] <ZwiiiT> escott: hard to do due to dedicated server
[19:56] <heoyea> misterroboto: then u got everything u needed
[19:56] <misterroboto> heoyea, No, I have to look at other distos
[19:56] <misterroboto> or manually install it
[19:57] <misterroboto> from source
[19:57] <heoyea> misterroboto: theres also PPA for version drivers
[19:57] <heoyea> misterroboto: thats not in the repos
[19:58] <ZwiiiT> But how to list CPU cores, and their CPU numbers? So i know what CPU`s to disable ( echo 0 > /sys/devices/system/node/node0/cpu3/online )
[19:58] <huismon> ikonia, so just netboot = http://foo/bar.iso ?
[19:58] <misterroboto> heoyea, Ubuntu is automated, which is its strength, but also a weakness...it makes for lazy users.  ; - )
[19:58] <escott> ZwiiiT, since the hyperthread cores are not real cores i dont think taking them offline is going to work, but you never know. i believe that the hyperthreaded cores go in pairs even/odd
[19:58] <Enlight_uni> Hi! I'm running ubuntu 12.04, and my samba shares are not advertised through avahi (at least i fail to see them with avahi-browse and avahi-discover), i looked up at smbd sources and advertising is supported through avahi, and i've also enabled avahi's dbus interface because gentoo ebuilds do so when you want samba with avahi support. Any idea of what i'm doing wrong?
[19:59] <escott> ZwiiiT, it might be better to just mark those cores as unscheduleable
[19:59] <escott> ZwiiiT, which may be what the kernel does when it takes them offline
[19:59] <heoyea> misterroboto: lazy users wont be looking to update anything
[19:59] <escott> nidazole, what kind of software controller
[20:00] <nidazole> escott: partitioner i guess
[20:00] <escott> nidazole, never heard of partitioner
[20:01] <nidazole> escott: sudo dd if=/dev/WHAT? of=/mountpoint/image.dd
[20:01] <escott> nidazole, either dm or md
[20:01] <nidazole> escott: i need 3 disks in one disk :)
[20:01] <deper29> hey, is it possible to share a home partition between distros?
[20:01] <nidazole> md didnt work
[20:01] <nidazole> its not bootable
[20:02] <heoyea> deper29: yes
[20:02] <escott> deper29, yes, but there are some issues with that
[20:02] <ZwiiiT> escott: thats why i was trying to figure out what cpus are on what core
[20:02] <escott> deper29, files in ~/.config could conflict if one distro runs a different version of the desktop than the other
[20:02] <deper29> escott: what would the issues be? I have the same users and they are both ext4
[20:02] <deper29> so, like if one was running kde and the other unity?
[20:02] <heoyea> deper29: make a new user for each distro and then symlink the folders
[20:03] <deper29> heoyea: so don't use my existing users at all?
[20:03] <zykotick9> deper29: different versions of software have different config files in ~, so you may run into issues
[20:03] <escott> deper29, kde unity should be cleaner because one is kde based the other gnome, less likely for conflicts i would think. unity gnome would be a bigger concern in my mind
[20:03] <heoyea> deper29: 1 new user per distro
[20:04] <heoyea> deper29: so u can use ur existing 1 for 1
[20:04] <escott> deper29, but i would still make two homes one for each user (they can still have the same username just a different $HOME depending on which os you are in), and then symlink all the folders in one to the other
[20:04] <Calinou> hi, how can I disable vsync in intel driver?
[20:04] <deper29> oh, I see. so things like .Xdefaults and .xinitrc and whatnot could give me some troubles
[20:05] <zykotick9> deper29: well, i doubt those two specifically would be an issue (but possible i suppose)
[20:05] <mac12> i need help..i installed ubuntu minimal cd of ubuntu 12.04 precise and i install xubuntu..but gui not coming ..anybody can tell me how to start gui...
[20:06] <zykotick9> mac12: try "startx"
[20:06] <Calinou_> mac12, once you installed a DE/WM, type startx
[20:06] <deper29> okay, cool. thanks for the help guys!
[20:06] <mac12> i only install xubuntu desktop envirement
[20:06] <mac12> nothing else!!!
[20:06] <Calinou_> and?
[20:06] <Calinou_> xubuntu-desktop package includes DE and WM
[20:06] <Calinou_> DE being xfce, WM being xfwm
[20:07] <mac12> i did not install anything else..what i am missing
[20:07] <mac12> i install xubuntu using no-install-recommends options
[20:07] <heoyea> missing lightdm?
[20:07] <Calinou_> lightdm is not a dependency, iirc
[20:08] <Calinou_> you need a login manager too
[20:08] <mac12> i dont know if it comewith xubuntu...
[20:08] <Calinou_> didn't you read the list of packages installed with xubuntu-desktop metapackage?
[20:08] <mac12> so what should i do...so i can get gui envirement with xubuntu..since xubuntu desktop is installed already
[20:08] <heoyea> think thats what xubuntu uses lightdm
[20:08] <nidazole> escott: can i restore the md image in emty physical disk in vmware machine? or restore sda and adb and sdc image in 3 different empty disk or something like that?
[20:08] <Calinou_> all buntus use lightdm
[20:08] <mr_chris> mac12: When you installed the xubuntu desktop environment, did you do it with "apt-get install xubuntu-desktop" ?
[20:09] <escott> nidazole, i have no idea what kind of raid you are using.
[20:09] <Simooon> sorry if this question already have been asked, but can someone tell me which file to run to run Unity when X is already running
[20:09] <Simooon> ?
[20:09] <nidazole> raid 5
[20:09] <Enlight_uni> Hi! I'm running ubuntu 12.04, and my samba shares are not advertised through avahi (at least i fail to see them with avahi-browse and avahi-discover), i looked up at smbd sources and advertising is supported through avahi, my binary is linked against libavahi, and i've also enabled avahi's dbus interface because gentoo ebuilds do so when you want samba with avahi support. Any idea of what i'm doing wrong?
[20:09] <nidazole> 3 disks
[20:09] <mac12> apt-get install --no-install-recommneds install xubuntu-desktop
[20:09] <escott> nidazole, what kind of raid controller
[20:09] <heoyea> Simooon: unity --replace   ?
[20:10] <mr_chris> mac12: Do you recall if it installed lightdm with it?
[20:10] <nidazole> i dont know exactly.
[20:10] <nongoogle> how do i not let people into my computer if i don't use a password anymore?
[20:10] <nidazole> is it important?
[20:10]  * Calinou_ facepalms miserably
[20:10] <Calinou_> why use ubuntu minimal when you can install xubuntu, too?
[20:10] <mac12> i dont know if it install..if it come with xubuntu then it should be
[20:10] <Calinou_> if you're a beginner I suggest staying away from ubuntu minimal
[20:10] <Simooon> heoyea, ok will try that, I am actually trying to help someone else, 2 min :-P
[20:10] <Calinou_> nongoogle, you can't
[20:10] <escott> nidazole, yes
[20:10] <Calinou_> obvious :)
[20:11] <mr_chris> mac12: Why no-install-recommends?
[20:11] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> Hey guys
[20:11] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> where does ubuntu save things when u do apt-get install
[20:11] <mac12> coz i do not want unnessery application like office etc
[20:11] <escott> [_-S1L3NC3-_], all over the place
[20:11] <nidazole> escott, this is a software raid. they managed the raid by some software named partitioner i guess.
[20:12] <bulletrulz> x
[20:12] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> apt-get install apache2
[20:12] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> where would it save
[20:12] <escott> nidazole, mdadm?
[20:12] <escott> [_-S1L3NC3-_], what part of it?
[20:12] <heoyea> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: dpkg -L apache2
[20:12] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> the
[20:12] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> index.html
[20:12] <ViaNocturna85> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: /var/www/
[20:12] <escott> [_-S1L3NC3-_], i believe thats in /var/www or something like that
[20:12] <Calinou_> mac12, you can remove them afterwards
[20:12] <tripelb> 3 questions re GUI--  re 12.04 -- 1. How do I get gnome not unity AND 2. Is there a webpage explaining the ideas,  motivations, and logic behind the unity design- so I can understand it.  and 3. Page to teach Unity to me and newbie person I am trying to recruit.
[20:12] <nidazole> escott, fdisk -l and appear sda,sdb,sdc,md0
[20:13] <Calinou_> remember that apps that do not run only use disk space, not RAM/CPU
[20:13] <escott> nidazole, md0 then
[20:13] <Calinou_> should not be an issue on today's computers anyway..
[20:13] <nidazole> escott, what is the meaning of mdadm?
[20:13] <mr_chris> mac12: Installing xubuntu-desktop and just installing from the normal xubuntu installation disc will be no different. They will both come with abiword, gmusicstreamer, and the other include applications.
[20:13] <Calinou_> tripelb, sudo apt-get install gnome-panel
[20:13] <Calinou_> -for fallback mode-
[20:13] <Calinou_> also, unity.ubuntu.com
[20:13] <escott> nidazole, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mdadm
[20:14] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> i do ls in /var/www/  and i dont find anything
[20:14] <mr_chris> mac12: If you are having trouble with your current method, you are better off just installing from the normal media and apt-get removing what you do not want.
[20:14] <kevinch> hey
[20:14] <reindeernix> Hi
[20:14] <Calinou_> [_-S1L3NC3-_], try ls -A /var/www
[20:14] <adknight87> Anyone having trouble with cheese in ubuntu 12.04
[20:14] <kevinch> I was in the middle of running a badblocks -ws test on my new hdd's
[20:14] <kevinch> and i got a power outage
[20:14] <nidazole> escott, md0 isnt bootable and i doubt it is restorable. is it?
[20:14] <kevinch> do i need to redo it?
[20:14] <kevinch> impossible to resume?
[20:14] <mac12> look...i want ith minimal coz i dont want unnessery tools..i want my own custmized ...system
[20:14] <FloodBot1> kevinch: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:14] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> cmd not found
[20:15] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> @ Calinou_
[20:15] <Calinou_> mac12, then go back to harshlinux
[20:15] <heoyea> adknight87: try guvcview
[20:15] <mac12> so xubunt-desktop i choose as desktop envirement
[20:15] <escott> nidazole, what does mdadm --stat say (or cat /proc/mdstat)
[20:15] <Calinou_> [_-S1L3NC3-_], weird, -A is an option for the ls command... which shows hidden files
[20:15] <bulletrulz> hi Calinou_ u use ubuntu
[20:15] <adknight87> heoyea: I have cam works fine.
[20:15] <Calinou_> bulletrulz, yes :p
[20:15] <tripelb> Calinou_: thank you.  can I st it to autobiography into gnome? Or,  how do I switch?
[20:15] <ViaNocturna85> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: use lowercase a 'ls -a'
[20:15] <bulletrulz> llol i know u xD
[20:15] <tripelb> Nippon
[20:15] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> ok
[20:15] <tripelb> nooooo
[20:15] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> still cmd not found
[20:15] <Calinou_> log out > click on ubuntu logo near your user name > choose desktop environment there
[20:16] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> oh nvm
[20:16] <Calinou_> command names are case-sensitive
[20:16] <tripelb> Calinou_: thank you.  can I set it to autoboot into gnome? Or,  how do I switch?
[20:16] <kevinch> can a bad blocks test be resumed if it was interrupted from a power outage?
[20:16] <Calinou_> tripelb, if it doesn't automatically use gnome, then you can change default desktop in system preferences maybe. I use xubuntu so I don't know
[20:16] <Simooon> heoyea, apparently that did the trick, thanks a lot!
[20:16] <MonkeyDust> tripelb  lightdm remembers your last choice
[20:16] <Calinou_> kevinch, why wouldn't it be?
[20:17] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> but im trying to find index.html or does it generate auto?
[20:17] <tripelb> Calinou_: kk.
[20:17] <kevinch> Calinou_: how would i go about resuming it once my computer boots up?
[20:17] <Calinou_> you mean, you broke your HDD?
[20:17] <kevinch> no
[20:17] <kevinch> these are new hdd's and i was running a full destructive test to make sure they work
[20:17] <kevinch> and then the power went out, one as almost done the last pass, one was just starting
[20:18] <Tommaso> I'm trying to install ubuntu on an old toshiba laptop from a cd-rom. I can get to the first ubuntu screen, but whether i choose try without installing, install ubuntu or check disk for defects I get as far as a line "10.849…kernel thread helper…"
[20:18] <adknight87> Wouldn't he just want to fsck the drive in recovery?
[20:18] <Tommaso> and nothing else happens
[20:18] <SonikkuAmerica> Tommaso: What version?
[20:19] <Calinou_> Tommaso, when booting the live cd try pressing F6 then use the "nomodeset" option
[20:19] <Calinou_> might be a kernel panic due to a driver. no idea though
[20:19] <Tommaso> SonikkuAmerica: i386
[20:19] <ViaNocturna85> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: are you sure Apache is installed, I just installed it and it created the directory and index file
[20:19] <nidazole> escott,Personalities : [raid10]
[20:19] <nidazole> md0 : active raid10 sdb1[0] sdc1[1]
[20:19] <nidazole>       10484640 blocks super 1.0 2 near-copies [2/2] [UU]
[20:19] <nidazole>       bitmap: 0/1 pages [0KB], 65536KB chunk
[20:19] <FloodBot1> nidazole: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:19] <Calinou_> Tommaso, if your computer is from > 2005 you can use amd64 safely, btw
[20:19] <SonikkuAmerica> Tommaso: Well I meant what release, but try Calinou_'s suggestion
[20:20] <bekks> nidazole: 64M chunks will decrease performance noticably.
[20:20] <Tommaso> Calinou_: thanks
[20:20] <strict9> Hello. What's the best way to determine why my Ubuntu server is restarting? I don't see anything suspicious in kern.log. And it's on a Linode VM so I don't imagine it's hardware related
[20:20] <tripelb> how much speedy computer internet connection do I need to install Ubuntu from liveCD?  will dialup do?  how long?  Will Starbucks do?  How long does it take?
[20:20] <bekks> nidazole: Use chunks of about 64/128 _k_B instead
[20:20] <Tommaso> SonikkuAmerica: 12.04.1
[20:20] <Calinou_> strict9, blame linode 8)
[20:21] <SonikkuAmerica> tripelb: You don't need an Internet connection
[20:21] <tripelb> newbie runs out of patience fast. Will not let me do it alone.
[20:21] <nidazole> bekks: this is not mine, but thanks.
[20:21] <Calinou_> tripelb, any speed should work, you do not need an internet connection to install live cd/dvd/usb (except to download updates)
[20:21] <strict9> Calinou_: That will be my next step :) But I do have other servers there without the restarting issue
[20:21] <Calinou_> i advise having an unlimited bandwidth
[20:21] <mr_chris> mac12: I see what you mean, the no-recommends strips the other stuff out.
[20:22] <Enlight_uni> Hi! I'm running ubuntu 12.04, and my samba shares are not advertised through avahi (at least i fail to see them with avahi-browse and avahi-discover), i looked up at smbd sources and advertising is supported through avahi, my binary is linked against libavahi, and i've also enabled avahi's dbus interface because gentoo ebuilds do so when you want samba with avahi support. Any idea of what i'm doing wrong?
[20:22] <mac12> i think i need to install login manager...
[20:22] <mac12> that what i am missing
[20:22] <strict9> Are there any other log files to look in besides kern.log, for reboot causes?
[20:22] <mr_chris> mac12: Try "sudo service lightdm start"
[20:22] <SonikkuAmerica> tripelb: Just install it without updates and then boot from the hard drive when you're done, connect to the Internet and Update Manager should pop up
[20:22] <tripelb> SonikkuAmerica: you do to get the non free. It tells me I need it. -- Calinou_ I like that plan. Time Warner and I differ on rates
[20:22] <mr_chris> mac12: http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/xubuntu-desktop
[20:22] <gustav__> When I switch windows in X11, one window is cover another, I can see the covered window drawing when I select it to go on top, i.e. clicking on it. How can I make this go faster or be in some cache?
[20:22] <SonikkuAmerica> tripelb: You need non-free stuff?
[20:22] <mac12> @mr chris can we talk in private seesion?
[20:22] <mr_chris> mac12: light-dm did did installed with xubuntu-desktop as a dependency.
[20:23] <Calinou_> tripelb, it is recommended but not required
[20:23] <Calinou_> the only requirement is the disk space
[20:23] <mr_chris> mac12: I'd rather not. Others could benefit from what the answer turns out to be.
[20:23] <tripelb> SonikkuAmerica: yes I understand. My question was how long does it take to get all the updates. And will a dial up connection do. And how long. And the same thing or a wifi at Starbucks connection.
[20:23] <Tommaso> Calinou_: it has a pIII and was running windows 98
[20:23] <Calinou_> gustav__, use a DE?
[20:23] <adknight87> woooo
[20:23] <Calinou_> why would you use bare X
[20:24] <nidazole> escott, r u see that flood?
[20:24] <Tommaso> Calinou_: it has stopped in the same place with nomodeset
[20:24] <SonikkuAmerica> tripelb: OK, Calinou_ said an unlimited bandwidth is a good idea, but I don't know how much you'll have at a Starbucks
[20:24] <gustav__> Calinou_: What's a DE in this context?
[20:24] <Calinou_> how is starbucks supposed to charge you for the bandwidth? 8)
[20:24] <mac12> if i want to startx function? then what should i install?
[20:24] <mac12> xorg
[20:24] <mac12> ?
[20:24] <Calinou_> gustav__, bare X draws windows inefficiently
[20:24] <tripelb> SonikkuAmerica: right I understand you're not the 1 to answer that question since you don't know.
[20:24] <SonikkuAmerica> Calinou_: XD
[20:25] <Calinou_> mac12, yes, you also have to install xorg, which is not a dependency, just a recommend i think (not even sure)
[20:25] <nidazole> escott, sorry,did u see that flood?
[20:25] <escott> nidazole, did you see the bot
[20:25] <nidazole> yes,i paste it.
[20:25] <Calinou_> [question] how can I disable vsync in intel driver?
[20:25] <mac12> even i install lightdm i need to install xorg?
[20:25] <SonikkuAmerica> tripelb: Well no one really knows the answer, it requires advanced probability and statistics XD
[20:25] <mr_chris> mac12: Run "apt-cache search startx"
[20:26] <escott> nidazole, then you need to post the link here
[20:26] <mac12> i havn't install xorg
[20:26] <mr_chris> That will tell you which package it is in. Xubuntu-desktop installs that, as well as lightdm, though.
[20:26] <tripelb> OK will know "soon". by experience.  Calinou_ SonikkuAmerica thanks.  - I'll do the experiment!
[20:26] <SonikkuAmerica> You're welcome tripelb
[20:26] <gustav__> Calinou_: Aha. A compositing window manager.
[20:26] <nidazole> escott,http://paste.ubuntu.com/1415513/
[20:26] <Calinou_> not talking about compositing
[20:26] <Calinou_> even non-compositing would be better
[20:27] <nidazole> escott, ok?
[20:27] <mr_chris> mac12: "sudo apt-get install xinit"
[20:27] <Calinou_> also, what's your graphics card?
[20:27] <Calinou_> do you even have 2D accel?
[20:27] <mac12> i am doing in virtualbox
[20:27] <mr_chris> mac12: Have you tried running "sudo service lightdm start"? Does anything happen?
[20:27] <mac12> nothing happend
[20:27] <gustav__> Calinou_: I don't understand. && Intel 4000.
[20:27] <mr_chris> mac12: Define "nothing"
[20:28] <SonikkuAmerica> mac12: You may have to go into VirtualBox and look at your video settings for the VM
[20:28] <Calinou_> should be ok then
[20:28] <mac12> ok..
[20:28] <SonikkuAmerica> mac12: Is acceleration enabled? (Can it be?)
[20:28] <gustav__> Calinou_: How do I activate acceleration?
[20:29] <Calinou_> it is enabled by default... and the intel driver is open source so you already have it
[20:29] <mac12> it enable but i cant not up or less
[20:29] <mr_chris> ...
[20:29] <Calinou_> you have to stop VM to enable accel mac12
[20:29] <mr_chris> mac12: What output do you get for "whereis startx" ?
[20:29] <Tommaso> i think this version (version 12) is too new for this computer, can you suggest an older version to try?
[20:29] <mac12> not found
[20:29] <Calinou_> Tommaso, older versions are not an alternative, if you have an old computer you can try lubuntu
[20:30] <mr_chris> mac12: "sudo apt-get install xinit lightdm"
[20:30] <Calinou_> anyway, that computer is way too old to run any linux distro "fluidly"
[20:30] <mac12> i did xubunt-install with no-install so i guess login manage missed
[20:30] <Calinou_> not even lightweight distros like arch..
[20:30] <SonikkuAmerica> Calinou_: SliTaZ?
[20:30] <mac12> ok mr bro..i am gonna try this..
[20:30] <Calinou_> SonikkuAmerica, unlikely, also noone uses that distro 8)
[20:30] <mr_chris> mac12: After that, "sudo service lightdm start"
[20:30] <Calinou_> why can't people get over it and buy new computers?
[20:31] <SonikkuAmerica> Calinou_: XD
[20:31] <mac12> and i t recommend to instal xorg?
[20:31] <dr_willis> Theres some Puppylinux varients  and a few OLD pc focused disrtos at disrtowatch that are targeted for old old pcs
[20:31] <Calinou_> even my €200 netbook beats their computer :P
[20:31] <nidazole> escott, i posted the link or?
[20:31] <ViaNocturna85> Calinou_: not everyone can afford a new computer
[20:31] <Calinou_> quit smoking/drinking/eating too much, try using car less often..
[20:31] <mr_chris> mac12: Hell, just installing lightdm should bring xorg with it.
[20:31] <SonikkuAmerica> Calinou_: My Fujitsu T-Series Lifebook is from 2007
[20:32] <ViaNocturna85> Calinou_: and if you dont do any of those but are crippled by the crisis?
[20:32] <Calinou_> buy brand-less food, etc... and you'll be able to buy a computer in no time
[20:32] <escott> nidazole, that says that sdb1, sdc1 are in a raid10 coniguration with two near copies
[20:32] <Calinou_> just saying :P
[20:32] <mac12> ah ok...now cleared
[20:32] <Tommaso> Calinou_: i dont mind if it doesnt work very well i just want to learn
[20:32] <mac12> Thanks alot  mr..
[20:32] <SonikkuAmerica> Calinou_: I digress here but that's like saying live in a shoe-box to buy a MacBook Pro
[20:32] <xangua> !ot | Calinou_ SonikkuAmerica
[20:32] <Calinou_> i'm not saying "buy a macbok pro" here, apple HW is overpriced
[20:32] <mr_chris> mac12: Glad I could help.
[20:32] <escott> nidazole, presumably that means raid1 mirroring with stripping optional in the future... or maybe it means raid0 stripping with the opportunity to go mirroring in the future. in either case tha array is up
[20:33] <mac12> i am glad too that i got help from you :)
[20:33] <escott> nidazole, so thats not your raid5 array
[20:34] <mac12> @ mr.. lightdm is good too use with xubuntu-desktop
[20:34] <mac12> coz i am not using gnome
[20:34] <escott> nidazole, you can try "mdadm --assemble --scan" to see if it picks up any other arrays
[20:35] <mr_chris> mac12: Some IRC basics. Just put mr_chris in your message an my IRC client with highlight it. That way if I am not looking at it I will know if I get a message.
[20:35] <nidazole> escott,so? this is my home test. my case is the raid 5 and i havenot access to that now. but just i am trying to boot an image from raid disks.
[20:35] <mr_chris> Most IRC clients support tab completion so you can type "mr_" and press tab and it will fill in the rest for you.
[20:36] <mac12> mr_chris  can i use gdm instead of lightdm?
[20:36] <Calinou_> why would you do that?
[20:36] <heoyea> mac12: u can use any
[20:36] <Calinou_> gdm is not interoperable
[20:36] <escott> nidazole, i dont know what you are trying to do, and neither do you evidently. that makes it hard to figure out what to do
[20:36] <mr_chris> mac12: LightDM is a general display manager. It can be used with anything. So can gdm, xdm, slim, among several others.
[20:36] <ActionParsnip> mac12: if you type 'mr' and hit TAB, it will autcocomplete
[20:36] <mr_chris> The default xubuntu installation uses lightdm.
[20:37] <mac12> mr_chris i need simple display manager like xfce..
[20:37] <SonikkuAmerica> mr_chris: Doesn't the default <anything>ubuntu distro use it now?
[20:37] <mr_chris> SonikkuAmerica: Pretty much.
[20:37] <escott> nidazole, i gather you have a raid5 array somewhere, but it may be hardware, it may be software it may be fakeraid. if it is a software mdraid device you can try to assemble it with the assemble scan command
[20:37] <k1l> SonikkuAmerica: yes it does
[20:37] <mr_chris> mac12: LightDM is pretty simple. Easy to configure.
[20:38] <mr_chris> mac12: Slim and xdm are more minimal.
[20:38] <mac12> mr_chris  i want ligh..and simple look..
[20:38] <SonikkuAmerica> mac12: sudo apt-get install [klx]ubuntu-desktop (if you want Unity you don't need any of the letters in [ ])
[20:38] <nidazole> escott, mdadm --assemble md0 ??
[20:38] <SonikkuAmerica> mac12: and just pick ONE if you want KDE, LXDE or XFCE resp
[20:38] <escott> nidazole, you can try "mdadm --assemble --scan" to see if it picks up any other arrays
[20:39] <mac12> SonikkuAmerica i installed xubuntu already..now want display manager..so gdm should work wid it?
[20:39] <dr_willis> mac12:  lightdm is the default displaymanager normally used
[20:39] <SonikkuAmerica> mac12: any desktop manager should work
[20:40] <xangua> mac12: you can use any login manager you want, makes no diference...it's only a login manager!
[20:40] <SonikkuAmerica> mac12: but lightdm is universal and lightweight
[20:40] <mac12> SonikkuAmerica give me complite command for gdm install? it should sudo apt-get install gdm
[20:40] <mac12> ?
[20:40] <SonikkuAmerica> mac12: Yes
[20:40] <dr_willis> You could of allready tried that command in the time its taken yiou to ask  ;)
[20:40] <mac12> SonikkuAmerica need to add xinit  etc?
[20:41] <dr_willis> installing lightdm, or gdm should pull in all needed X dependencies.
[20:41] <mr_chris> mac12: If you want super minimal, don't even install a display manager. Just go with startx and put "exec xfce4-session" in your .xinitrc file.
[20:41] <nidazole> escott, i did but nothing. terminal said nothing.
[20:41] <escott> nidazole, check mdstat again
[20:42] <nidazole> escott, i checked. the same things.
[20:42] <mr_chris> mac12: You need to stop relying on people to give you full commands. Use "apt-cache search packagename" to search for packages. Or use http://packages.ubuntu.com/.
[20:42] <escott> nidazole, ok.
[20:43] <mr_chris> mac12: apt-get install installs. apt-get remove removes. Simple as that.
[20:43] <mr_chris> mac12: Any display manager you install in Ubuntu will automatically be set up to start by itself on boot. With most of them, you will not need a .xinitrc file.
[20:44] <escott> nidazole, im not sure what else i can say. you would be the person to best know the answers to basic questions like "what kind of raid controller did this use" "what disk and partitions did it use" etc... i could start asking you about the ratchet that was in my garage last month, but i cannot for the life of me figure out where it is. i do know its silver and about 6 inches long
[20:44] <mike024> I am creating a RAID 6 array. Should I format each of the partitions of the devices and put raid on top of those(IE each drive has GPT with 1 partition of EXT4 with MDADM on top) or Should i not format the drive partitions, and put them into the array
[20:44] <zykotick9> mr_chris: infact, only startx uses .xinitrc
[20:44] <mr_chris> xyzone: And slim
[20:44] <escott> mike024, ABSOLUTELY format
[20:45] <mike024> escott: so I have an ext4 fs on top of ext4 fs? That seems wasteful
[20:45] <mac12> mr_chris thanks man
[20:45] <escott> mike024, rather absolutely partition (you will eventually format)
[20:45] <mike024> escott: I will definitely partition each drive. Should I put ext4 on each of those partitions, and RAID ontop of that, and then EXT4 on top of that? Or skip the first EXT4?
[20:45] <nidazole> escott, ok . youre right. thank u very much.
[20:45] <escott> mike024, so you start out with each disk having one partition and type linux_raid
[20:46] <mr_chris> mac12: You're welcome.
[20:46] <mac12> mr_chris u have got msn or yahoo? u are such helpfull person
[20:46] <seednode> you can always find him here.
[20:46] <mike024> escott: is linux_raid a filesystem type?
[20:46] <escott> mike024, assemble the device and then format the md device (sorry initially misread thinking you were going to avoid partitioning)
[20:46] <guntbert> !u | mac12
[20:47] <escott> mike024, its a partition type. i dont know how that appears in gpt. its a valid type for msdos partitions so presumably there is a gpt analog
[20:47] <escott> mike024, also want to make sure you are aware of the write hole that applies to RAID5/RAID6
[20:47] <gianni> hallo
[20:48] <SonikkuAmerica> guntbert: I'm surprised there's even a fantasy command for that
[20:48] <escott> nidazole, i'd like to help but i dont really know enough about your system to point you at anything useful
[20:48] <SonikkuAmerica> gianni: Hi
[20:48] <escott> nidazole, /etc/mdadm.conf perhaps?
[20:48] <mike024> escott: this isn't for performance. I understand the write hold. It will be mostly a write once system anyways. It will be 3tb disks in RAID 6(raid 5 is too risky for that size)
[20:48] <alistair_l> can i access a ps2 memory card over a usb connection in ubuntu?
[20:48] <mac12> mr_chris you got msn or yahoo?
[20:48] <ViaNocturna85> mac12: he has left
[20:48] <xt3> hello
[20:49] <mac12> ViaNocturna85 oh ok
[20:49] <xt3> anyone here? :)
[20:49] <SonikkuAmerica> xt3: Hello
[20:49] <escott> mike024, thats fine... if people aren't aware of the write hole... i try and steer them to raid10, but as long as you know what you want thats fine
[20:49] <seednode> xt3: Just a couple (hundred) of us
[20:49] <xt3> lol
[20:49] <xt3> yeah i see
[20:49] <SonikkuAmerica> xt3: There are a lot of us here... what's up
[20:49] <SonikkuAmerica> ?
[20:49] <guntbert> xt3: Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[20:49] <xt3> yeah a small one lol
[20:49] <SonikkuAmerica> Talk at us
[20:49] <SonikkuAmerica> about ut
[20:49] <ActionParsnip> alistair_l: try it if you already have the hardware
[20:50] <xt3> i just forgot how to get windows to minimize to a certain menu bar
[20:50] <xt3> and im on gnomeclassic :P
[20:50] <mike024> escott: hopefully parted understands linux-raid as the fs type
[20:50] <SonikkuAmerica> xt3: You know how to pull up panel options?
[20:50] <xt3> yes sir
[20:51] <alistair_l> ActionParsnip, tried lsusb and it sees it but what next?
[20:51] <SonikkuAmerica> xt3: Alt+Right-click
[20:51] <nidazole> escott, my scenario is "image a Server which have RAID disks and combine the disks into the one disk and boot the one disk in vmware"
[20:51] <mike024> escott: I'll go play and see what I come up with. Thanks for the help. I'm decent with linux, I just want to get this right the first time - it takes too long to find out otherwise :)
[20:51] <nidazole> escott, and i see /dev/md0 but when i convert that to vmdk image, its not bootable.
[20:51] <ActionParsnip> alistair_l: if you run:   sudo fdisk -l     do you see the partition?
[20:51] <escott> nidazole, i get the scenario. you need to recover a raid array for which you need to assemble it. but what kind of raid array it is i have no idea
[20:52] <SonikkuAmerica> xt3: Remove a window list from the panel it's on and then Alt+Right-click to add a panel item (it's the Window List)
[20:52] <alistair_l> no :-)
[20:52] <vipacrt>  /load .xchat2/budus.so
[20:52] <escott> nidazole, its doubtful that a partition would ever be bootable. it would need a bootloader. you could put the partition inside a virtual disk and install a bootloader
[20:53] <xt3> hmmm
[20:53] <escott> nidazole, and then convert the drivers from the real hardware to the virtual hardware (which is usually not as hard with linux)
[20:53] <xt3> well i meant when I minimize, mozilla, for example, it dissappears because i removed the bottom panel lol
[20:53] <ActionParsnip> alistair_l: if you use the 8 character hex ID, you can attempt to find guides
[20:54] <nidazole> escott, ok, this is a good idea. but the working partition is /dev/sda2
[20:54] <SonikkuAmerica> xt3: So you need a new panel?
[20:54] <k1l> xt3: press alt+tab
[20:54] <ActionParsnip> xt3: you can't minimize mozilla, its not a software
[20:54] <escott> mike024, once you have your partitions its a mdadm --create md0 --level=6 /dev/sdX#....
[20:54] <k1l> xt3: or do you want a new bottompanel?
[20:54] <xt3> yeah i figured i wasn't coming across correctly. I mean minimize the window, not the panel icon
[20:54] <ActionParsnip> xt3: mozilla make Firefox, Thunderbird, Sunbird and other applications. Mozilla itself is not minimizable
[20:54] <alistair_l> ok :-)
[20:55] <Enlight_uni> Hi! does anybody runs samba with automatic advertising through avahi?
[20:55] <kosaidpo> hey guys
[20:55] <SonikkuAmerica> xt3: Minimize it to somewhere else?
[20:55] <xt3> yeah
[20:55] <xt3> exactly
[20:55] <xt3> i just want to minimize windows to my top panel, instead of the bottom panel
[20:55] <SonikkuAmerica> xt3: Do you have a panel where you want to put a window list?
[20:55] <nidazole> escott, see this plz : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1415567/
[20:56] <kosaidpo> idk why  when i set a cron tab for redshift nethin hapens but when i do another cmmd it works
[20:56] <ActionParsnip> xt3: you can add a window list applet to the panel. Is that not a feature?
[20:56] <xt3> yes, top panel.
[20:56] <SonikkuAmerica> xt3: Oh, OK... make sure you have room on your panel, Alt+rightclick an empty spaceon the top panel and select "add to panel"
[20:56] <heoyea> kosaidpo: might have to use DISPLAY=:0
[20:56] <k1l> xt3: i dont know if you can add the taskbar into the upper panel on the gnome-classic, because it is not a full gnome2 but just a cropped gnome
[20:56] <kosaidpo> heoyea: did not get you
[20:56] <xt3> lol
[20:56] <julie101010> I run a firefox from another Linux system on my Ubuntu X server and everything works fine except for the sound, any ideas?
[20:56] <SonikkuAmerica> k1l: I had no problems with it on GNOME 3 Classic
[20:57] <xt3> im not making any sense i guess..
[20:57] <mike024> escott: mkfs.linux-raid doesn't work. parted also doesn't support that raid type
[20:57] <SonikkuAmerica> xt3: Don't worry, we'll try to understand...
[20:57] <heoyea> kosaidpo: some apps requires u tell it which display it goes to
[20:57] <SonikkuAmerica> xt3: Even if we have to play 20Q
[20:57] <mike024> escott: I have used mdadm before - I just want to make sure I do best practices for formatting :)
[20:57] <xt3> i only have one panel. A top panel. It has everything on it, but when I minimze my firefox browser window, it disappears
[20:57] <k1l> SonikkuAmerica: i only know, that it doesnt have the full functionality fro the gnome2 panel
[20:57] <ikonia> julie101010: why are you not using the ubuntu version ?
[20:58] <escott> mike024, im not sure what partition type it should be with gpt. with msdos its supposed to be raid-autodetect or something that says RAID in it. you could mark it as a linux partition?
[20:58] <vipacrt> ciao
[20:58] <kosaidpo> heoyea: so my cron tab line must end with DISPALY:0
[20:58] <escott> mike024, i doubt mdadm actually cares what the partition type is
[20:58] <SonikkuAmerica> k1l: That is right, but you can still put stuff on GNOME 3 Classic panels wherever you want them
[20:58] <mike024> escott: I think I will just partition them into one big gpt partition and use the no fs partition for the raid
[20:58] <ActionParsnip> julie101010: you'll need to mess with pulse to get the sound to ship over the network too. I only know of it. Not sometning I've done
[20:58] <heoyea> kosaidpo: should be sometime like this * * * * * DISPLAY=:0 redshift ....etc
[20:58] <SonikkuAmerica> xt3: Are you sure you're not using Unity?
[20:58] <xt3> nope
[20:58] <xt3> session fallback
[20:58] <escott> mike024, the problem with "no fs" on that means that another tool which doesn't understand mdadm may interpret it as unallocated
[20:58] <kosaidpo> heoyea: ok will test it noe
[20:59] <SonikkuAmerica> xt3: Move your mouse to the top left corner of the screen
[20:59] <ActionParsnip> xt3: then doesn't the running app minimize to the window list app on the panel?
[20:59] <xt3> Action, I wish it did automatically, but it does not.
[20:59] <xt3> it would make sense
[21:00] <mike024> escott: I'm sure it doesn't care. Everything is a file in linux afterall. I just don't want performance issues or slowdowns because of a double fs. Here is my issue now though. If I don't format it, I can't label it. So when it dies I'm going to have issues figuring out which of the 10 drives died without plugging them into another computer one by one
[21:00] <SonikkuAmerica> Yeah that's what I can't get... either running Unity or has a GNOME 3 problem
[21:00] <julie101010> ikonia, simply to balance resources...  I require a lot of processing and memory :)
[21:00] <ikonia> julie101010: so running firefox from ubuntu/different distro will still eat the same resources
[21:00] <ActionParsnip> xt3: add the new window list to the panel and remove the other.
[21:00] <xt3> i have it the way i want it on my laptop, but i cant remember how i did it lol
[21:00] <ikonia> julie101010: or do you mean you are exporting it over X
[21:00] <julie101010> yes
[21:00] <xt3> Action
[21:00] <mike024> escott: and the unallocated thing could be an issue too. so maybe I should just go with ext4 on ext4
[21:00] <ikonia> right, so X11 is not a sound servrer
[21:00] <xt3> you win!
[21:01] <ikonia> server
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> xt3: have you considered using XFCE? YOu may find it is a bit easier
[21:01] <xt3> +20 for you!
[21:01] <julie101010> I thought it managed it
[21:01]  * SonikkuAmerica 0, ActionParsnip 1
[21:01] <xt3> lolol
[21:01] <xt3> thats what it was
[21:01] <xt3> stupid windows list thing
[21:01] <xt3> sorry if anyone else said it before, i just didnt remember it was in Panel options
[21:01] <SonikkuAmerica> I actually said that but I guess you didn't realize it... XD
[21:01] <xt3> ^^
[21:01] <xt3> :D
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> SonikkuAmerica: guess my words are better :)
[21:02] <xt3> i have used xfce as well, but i prefer gnome classic actually
[21:02] <xt3> its a bit nicer to my eyes :P
[21:02] <SonikkuAmerica> ActionParsnip: I'll betcha you've used Ubuntu longer than I have too XD
[21:02] <xt3> it also reminds me of ubuntu 8 haha
[21:02] <gustav__> So, I just asked, when I switch a window, one covering another, it takes some time and I see it needs to re-render the below window, can't I make X predict this?
[21:02] <vipacrt>  /EXEC rm -vf /home/vittorio/.xchat2/buduscript/tmp/budus_XDCC_3307.query
[21:03] <SpyRaven> Anybody here who'd be able to help with a precise pangolin kickstart?
[21:03] <SonikkuAmerica> xt3: A suggestion: Look into getting the MATE desktop environment, it's a fork of GNOME 2
[21:03] <xt3> MATE? Hmm.. I'll have a look.
[21:03] <q_> Hello, can i ask someone something about games on xubuntu?
[21:03] <dr_willis> q_:  just ask the question., no need to ask if you can ask
[21:03] <WhereIsMySpoon> o/ dr :)
[21:04] <SonikkuAmerica> !o | ?
[21:04] <q_> Can i play maplestory europe on one way on xubuntu?
[21:04] <xt3> now i have like 20 windows because I kept trying different things :P
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> SonikkuAmerica: Ubuntu since 7.10 (gutsy), Linux since Mandrake 7 :)
[21:04] <escott> mike024, once you create the array it will destroy anything on the disk
[21:04] <mike024> escott: so it doesn't matter how I partition the underlying device then?
[21:04] <SonikkuAmerica> ActionParsnip: Only been here since the 9.10 days, seen one big change after another
[21:04] <escott> nidazole, all i see are the two disks which are up as md0. there is nothing else that is or could be RAID on those three disks
[21:05] <Peace-> ...
[21:05] <escott> mike024, the annotation in the gpt table of what type of disk is there is just an annotation
[21:05] <SonikkuAmerica> Peace-: Yes?
[21:05] <Peace-> ssh doesn't work on ubuntu
[21:05] <Peace-> connect /tmp/.X11-unix/X0: No such file or directory
[21:05] <Peace-> ...
[21:05] <ActionParsnip> q_: check the appdb for compatibility
[21:05] <guntbert> !enter | Peace-
[21:05] <SonikkuAmerica> Weird. What version of Ubuntu? (I thought SSH was standard)
[21:06] <Peace-> 12.10
[21:06] <escott> mike024, tools will usually skip things they dont understand, but otherwise it doesnt matter
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> Peace-: are you using passwords or key files for authentication?
[21:06] <dr_willis> Peace-:  make sure the directory exists?  could be a permission issie on /tmp/ also
[21:06] <Peace-> dr_willis: exit
[21:06] <vipacrt> !list
[21:06] <q_> oke thanks
[21:06] <mike024> escott: sweet. If I label my drives, will that be kept or overwritten then
[21:06] <SpyRaven> Is there any way to disable the gpg check on an unattended kisckstart 12.04 installation?
[21:06] <Peace-> ActionParsnip: password
[21:07] <escott> mike024, my guess is that mdadm will fix up the type when it puts its uuid's in
[21:07] <xt3> im gonna stick around here. but im switching over to my desktop, so brb.
[21:07] <anachoreta> hi guys, using $sed -i 'iqblablabla' to insert blablabla before line q, i would like to do it in a .sh, problem is i cant say $sed -i 'i$VARblablabla', because simple quotes dont interprate $VAR..
[21:08] <SonikkuAmerica> Peace-: is OpenSSH installed already?
[21:08] <ibenjmoore> Hii
[21:08] <SonikkuAmerica> (It should)
[21:08] <escott> mike024, ahhhh here we go. GPT uses guids for the partition type as well. you want  	A19D880F-05FC-4D3B-A006-743F0F84911E
[21:08] <mike024> escott: cool. I will format them to ext4, put mdadm on top of those(with labels so I know which is which) and then create the raid 6
[21:08] <Peace-> SonikkuAmerica: i have rasperberrypi with has ssh enabled by default
[21:08] <Peace-> SonikkuAmerica: then i have my laptop
[21:08] <dr_willis> Peace-:  so you are sshing into your Pi from ubuntu?
[21:09] <Peace-> dr_willis: sure
[21:09] <WhereIsMySpoon> hi, my friend is trying to go 12.04 -> 12.10, and is getting could not detirmine upgrade after it tries to install xorg core
[21:09] <kosaidpo> heoyea: did not work
[21:09] <escott> mike024, so each partition has two associated uuids. one for the type and one for the partition instance
[21:09] <WhereIsMySpoon> what do?
[21:09] <Peace-> dr_willis: and it works but... if i want run an application in my laptop it says it doesn't work
[21:09] <Calinou_> WhereIsMySpoon, did his internet access stop functioning?
[21:09] <WhereIsMySpoon> Calinou_: no
[21:09] <Peace-> dr_willis: i mean a gui
[21:09] <escott> nidazole, if those three disks are all you have then you never had RAID5
[21:09] <dr_willis> Peace-:  sounds like X forwarding is not enabled on the Pi to me.
[21:09] <mike024> escott: Really? I didn't know that. I thought they only had 1
[21:10] <escott> mike024, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table#Partition_type_GUIDs
[21:10] <guntbert> Peace-: did you use ssh -X ... ?
[21:10] <heoyea> kosaidpo: try using absolute path like /usr/bin/redshift since crontab is a little dumb
[21:10] <Peace-> guntbert: used ssh -X     and ssh -Y too
[21:10] <dr_willis> gotta love having to ask 20 questions to get down to the real question/details.
[21:10] <SonikkuAmerica> dr_willis: LOL
[21:10] <kosaidpo> heoyea: ok
[21:10] <dr_willis> Peace-:  so you sucefully ssh into the PI. and the hsell works.. but not X forwarding
[21:11] <Peace-> dr_willis: yes
[21:11] <Peace-> :D
[21:11] <Peace-> 21
[21:11] <WhereIsMySpoon> Calinou_: any ideas?
[21:11] <Erin> I have 2 1Tb western digital drives, different model numbers but basically the same drive... Can I raid these ?
[21:11] <escott> mike024, my favorite bit about that table is all the companies which clearly broke randomness to stake out their own like subset of the UUID space as their own...
[21:11] <escott> Erin, yes
[21:11] <dr_willis> Sounds lik eyou need to check the SSHd settings on the PI. it may have X forwarding disabled.
[21:11] <gesalip> .
[21:11] <dr_willis> and check the  /tmp/ directory
[21:11] <nidazole> escott: thank you for your patient answers, but i have not raid 5 in my home. i have raid 10 for test and main case is raid 5. if i can resolve raid 10 then i will go to raid 5.
[21:11] <Peace-> dr_willis: in my laptop the file tmp/.X11-unix/X0: doesn't exit
[21:12] <Peace-> dr_willis: instead the folder exist
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> Peace-: are you trying to run graphical apps?
[21:12] <Peace-> ActionParsnip: yep
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> Peace-: how did you SSH to the rasberry PI?
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> Peace-: what command?
[21:12] <Erin> escott, I have to remove everything off both drives first right ?
[21:12] <dr_willis> Peace-:  it may be wanting that dir on the PI.  Its not clear what one of the machines is saying that
[21:12] <escott> Erin, depends on what kind of raid you want
[21:12] <Peace-> ActionParsnip: ssh -v  -Y pi@192.168.0.3 or ssh -v  -X pi@192.168.0.3
[21:12] <SonikkuAmerica> Peace-: also check the [ /etc/ssh/sshd_config ] on the Pi
[21:12] <Erin> escott, raid 0 is for speed right ?
[21:13] <SonikkuAmerica> Hello brontosaurusrex
[21:13] <escott> Erin, stripping reduces reliability but makes reads and writes faster
[21:13] <mike024> escott: unfortunately those are guids, not uuids. They are the same on each disk, so they won't be of much help to me?
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> Erin: yes, its also not technically raid, hence it being raid 0 :)
[21:13] <mike024> escott: If I understand correctly
[21:13] <dr_willis> I definatly have a /tmp/.X11-unix/X0  here
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> Peace-: and does the raspberry Pi have an X server running?
[21:13] <Peace-> dr_willis: the laptop hasnot the file so rpi is sayin that it can't connect to laptop computer cuz there is not that file in the laptop
[21:13] <Erin> Yea I am barely even using the second 1TB drive and i've never had a raid
[21:13] <Peace-> ActionParsnip: sure
[21:13] <WhereIsMySpoon> hi, my friend is trying to go 12.04 -> 12.10, and is getting could not detirmine upgrade after it tries to install xorg core. What do?
[21:14] <Peace-> dr_willis: so it's a laptop issue yes
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> Peace-: on the raspberry pi, what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[21:14] <escott> mike024, a guid is a uuid (more or less). those are the guids (aka uuids) for the partition type. you want the linux raid partition type, when you partition another uuid will be generated for each partition instance, that uuid will be used by mdadm to define the array
[21:14] <Erin> escott, ActionParsnip so do I have to remove the stuff off of my drives to raid 0 ?
[21:15] <Peace-> ActionParsnip: well lsb is not installed :D
[21:15] <escott> Erin, you might as well. its going to have to rewrite everything anyways
[21:15] <SonikkuAmerica> WhereIsMySpoon: xorg-core was chucked from wherever it was and was moved to updates
[21:15] <nonkn4mer> escott: if I may...  Even a RAID 1 (parity), though not primarilly used for speed increases, will in fact give you faster read times, drawing from each drive for reads.  Has no impact on write speeds.  Something I recently learned with building my own RAIDs at work
[21:15] <WhereIsMySpoon> SonikkuAmerica: so what does that mean he should do?
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> Peace-: ok, run:  cat /etc/issue    what is output?
[21:15] <dr_willis> Peace-:  how did you startup X on the ubuntu box?
[21:16] <escott> nonkn4mer, i know. erin is the one asking about raid0 which is something i would NEVER do
[21:16] <Peace-> dr_willis: i dunno i just login in my kubuntu box
[21:16] <nonkn4mer> escott: Ah.  That's what I get for  jumping in mid-convo :P
[21:16] <Erin> escott, well 'might as well' is kind of a non descript answer? is it necessary will i suffer data loss if not? I only ask because i'll have to hook up one of the drives to another machine with a 2TB to copy stuff/back forth because over my lan would be way too slower for the amount of data on the drive. Also my music collection is on this drive I would freak if I lost it.
[21:16] <Damjan_> :)
[21:16] <escott> nonkn4mer, not a problem its a good thing to point out to Erin, that she would get some read speedup from raid1
[21:17] <WhereIsMySpoon> SonikkuAmerica?
[21:17] <Peace-> ActionParsnip: Debian GNU/Linux wheezy/sid \n \l
[21:17] <SonikkuAmerica> WhereIsMySpoon: I'm Googling your case...
[21:17] <escott> Erin, you can see if mdadm supports a raid-jbod to raid0 conversion
[21:17] <WhereIsMySpoon> SonikkuAmerica: i tried that too, i didnt get far, tho maybe your google fu is better :)
[21:17] <SpyRaven> anybody here has any experience setting up a kickstart server on 12.04?
[21:17] <mike024> escott: got it. Here goes nothing. Thanks!
[21:18] <escott> Erin, but its not faster and it increases the risk of failure
[21:18] <goddard> can i covert an mp3 to swf?
[21:18] <SonikkuAmerica> WhereIsMySpoon: How did you upgrade, through the terminal or the Update Manager?
[21:18] <slee_> connect #rundeck
[21:19] <ActionParsnip> Peace-: then I suggest you ask in #debian
[21:19] <nidazole> escott, thank u. take your time.
[21:19] <Erin> escott, I just realized I do nothing disk intensive on this machine, basically it runs a samba server for my house / runs MPD for my music to my amplifier so I think i'll just skip the raid thanks for the info.
[21:19] <SonikkuAmerica> WhereIsMySpoon: What's your graphics card?
[21:19] <ActionParsnip> Peace-: the ssh in Ubuntu is fine, you have a config issue on the server side
[21:19] <Peace-> ActionParsnip: well actually rpi works it's the clien with ubuntu that doesn't
[21:19] <WhereIsMySpoon> SonikkuAmerica: update manager, and nvidia
[21:20] <Peace-> ActionParsnip: infact rpi says i have not on laptotp with ubuntu the file /tmp/.Xstuff
[21:20] <Peace-> and infact if i did
[21:20] <hilo> What is it about FTP that makes it so difficult to traverse the NAT? I didn't do any special config, just forwarded port 21, and I was able to connect, download, upload, rename, resume, you name it.
[21:20] <dr_willis> I definatly have a /tmp/.X11-unix/X0   from what im googling - if you dont. you may need to restart the X server, or the pc.
[21:20] <escott> Erin, if you just have a disk you feel you need to use you can go with raid1 mirroring which will give you some backups
[21:20] <dr_willis> Peace-:  id try the above. and also see if the ubuntu box can ssh to itself. "ssh -X localhost" and see if it can run apps.
[21:21] <Peace-> dr_willis: the point it that it can't
[21:21] <Calinou_> goddard, nope
[21:21] <Calinou_> why would you do that?
[21:21] <Erin> escott, thats a good idea
[21:21] <WhereIsMySpoon> SonikkuAmerica: http://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com/msg3870607.html will this help? (essentially, comment out precise main and then install xserver-xorg-video-nv from cmd line)
[21:21] <Erin> escott, because i was just gonna use this other disk for backups anyway. so that will automate the process ?
[21:21] <Peace-> dr_willis: it says
[21:21] <Peace-> onnect /tmp/.X11-unix/X0: No such file or directory
[21:21] <Peace-> Can't open display localhost:10.0
[21:22] <Calinou_> WhereIsMySpoon, nv driver is outdated, 2D accel only
[21:22] <escott> Erin, this is arch instructions there should be some ubuntu versions as well https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Convert_a_single_drive_system_to_RAID
[21:22] <SonikkuAmerica> WhereIsMySpoon: You can give it a shot (or temporarily deal with nouveau)
[21:22] <Ampersand> hi everyone! is there any way to integrate Pidgin into the Messaging Menu in Ubuntu 12.10 (I mean, to turn the icon blue on new messages for example). I did manage to show Pidgin in that menu, but without it turning blue on new messages.
[21:22] <Calinou_> use nouveau or nvidia..
[21:22] <Peace-> dr_willis: on laptipt with ssh -X localhost
[21:22] <escott> Erin, it would mean the two disks are exact copies of each other
[21:22] <end_guy> So my mouse stops working when I press a key on my keyboard... I've followed these instructions but it didn't fix the problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=545244
[21:22] <dr_willis> Peace-: I start with a restart of the X server, or reboot. and se eif that file comes back.  its possible somthing cleaned out /tmp/ and removed it. but i cant find any info on what could do that.
[21:22] <Erin> escott, well its not a single drive system nor are either of these disk /
[21:22] <shadow98> how do i turn off all the fancy windows stuff for faster remote desktop in 12.10
[21:22] <Peace-> dr_willis: ok
[21:22] <phunyguy_work> Ampersand, that is one thing that just alwasy worked for me.
[21:22] <Peace-> dr_willis: tx
[21:22] <Erin> escott, I have the disks in question 2x 1Tb and an old intel 40gb SSD as /  /home /swap etc
[21:22] <hilo> I understand that it uses a separate channel for the data, but doesn't passive mode solve that?
[21:22] <escott> Erin, the R in RAID being "redundant"
[21:23] <SonikkuAmerica> Ampresand: (Pidgin) As far as we know, no, unless someone has an update on that
[21:23] <WhereIsMySpoon> Calinou_: whats the nvidia xorg package
[21:23] <phunyguy_work> Ampersand, have you tried logging out and back in since you installed pidgin?
[21:23] <Ampersand> phunyguy_work, really?? in ubuntu 12.10? could you please tell me if i have to enable a certain plugin? or?
[21:23] <phunyguy_work> ahh is it a known issue, SonikkuAmerica?
[21:23] <escott> hilo, i believe so
[21:24] <SonikkuAmerica> phunyguy_work: Yes, http://askubuntu.com/questions/201664/messaging-menu-missing-after-upgrade-to-12-10
[21:24] <xangua> Ampersand: the pidgin libnotify plugins has not been updated to work with the new indicator message api
[21:24] <Ampersand> ah, I see...
[21:24] <phunyguy_work> ahh xangua - true. Similar issues in Xubuntu....
[21:24] <Ampersand> so it's not just me then, that's good to knoe
[21:24] <Ampersand> thanks!
[21:24] <escott> hilo, point is that passive mode was a late addition to the protocol (a bit of an oh-yeah-that-was-a-bad-idea moment)
[21:24] <SonikkuAmerica> Ampersand: and after April '13 you'll have to get it from ppa:/pidgin-developers/ppa if you want security updates
[21:24] <phunyguy_work> message indicator is now gtk3
[21:25] <Calinou_> WhereIsMySpoon, it is not an xorg package, nouveau is
[21:25] <Calinou_> xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
[21:25] <WhereIsMySpoon> k
[21:25] <Calinou_> nvidia-current-updates is the nvidia driver
[21:25] <phunyguy_work> SonikkuAmerica, is it going away?
[21:25] <SonikkuAmerica> phunyguy_work: That's what it says in Synaptic
[21:25] <phunyguy_work> eeek
[21:26] <SonikkuAmerica> "Canonical will provide ... updates... until April 2013."
[21:26] <shadow98> how do i turn off all the fancy windows stuff for faster remote desktop in 12.10
[21:26] <SonikkuAmerica> But the Pidgin developers are still developing it
[21:26] <Ampersand> i see... well, thanks phunyguy_work , SonikkuAmerica , xangua for your answers!
[21:27] <hilo> escott, gotchya. Awesome though.
[21:27] <phunyguy_work> well I hope Canonical stops this trend of removing choice.
[21:27] <phunyguy_work> !ot though
[21:27] <Ampersand> also, tried yesterday uninstalling/reinstalling empathy and telepathy-haze, but still the Yahoo aliases are not showing! (we talked about this yesterday)
[21:27] <Calinou_> shadow98, with unity/gnome 3 you can't
[21:28] <Erin> escott, is there a way to copy files via the command line that shows progress and MB/s etc ?
[21:28] <shadow98> what
[21:28] <Calinou_> with kde/xfce/lxde you can, disable compositing/desktop effects in control panel
[21:28] <end_guy> Would someone be kind enough to help me with mouse problem? My mouse stops working when I press any key on my keyboard. I've followed these instructions, but it didn't fix the problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=545244
[21:28] <Aniar> anyone aware of a good place to go (not nvidia, it's the wrong place) for nvidia(nouveau)/intel graphics switching ?
[21:28] <WhereIsMySpoon> Calinou_: it says its the most up to date version
[21:28] <escott> Erin, with the "-v" argument to cp, or with rsync
[21:28] <shadow98> Calinou: what is this Microsoft?
[21:28] <Calinou_> Aniar, bumblebee
[21:28] <WhereIsMySpoon> Calinou_: package updates work fine, its just the dist upgrade that breaks
[21:29] <Calinou_> shadow98, quit complaining, get over it and use another DE/WM?
[21:29] <shadow98> Calinou: Actually even windows you can tone down and speed up performance
[21:29] <Erin> escott, but that just makes it verbose right saying what file it is copying, not like with a time remaing or anything ?
[21:29] <shadow98> big mistake
[21:29] <daemonoob> in a folder name I see a square with F 0 2 8 inside it, how do i reproduce this character so that I can rename the folder?
[21:29] <shadow98> just came from 10.
[21:29] <Calinou_> shadow98, yeah and windows 8 forces you to go through metro to go to desktop
[21:29] <RickZilla> Will we see an ubuntu derivative at some point aimed specifically for tablets?
[21:29] <Peace-> hey dr_willis it worked
[21:29] <Aniar> Calinou_: thanks.  also, I spelled #nouveau wrong.  Thanks!
[21:29] <Calinou_> RickZilla, ...ubuntu will be made for phones and tablets soon
[21:29] <hilo> Is there a simple way to forward data from one port to another? i.e. so I could run the internet facing FTP on some random high port number, but have it respond to port 21 on the inside? I use DD-WRT and normally do that there, but the specific model I am currently using broke that function such that I can only forward ports to the same inside port.
[21:29] <escott> Erin, time remaining no. not in a command line tool (it requires additional work to know how much total work there is... and a CLI tool never does additional work)
[21:30] <daemonoob> calinou i already put ubuntu on a tablet :)
[21:30] <cjae> is there a good gui duplicate finder, for photos. One that doesnt sync the folder from collum a to b but instead indentifies the double and allows you to select it
[21:30] <Calinou_> it works, yes, but it's not really optimized for them
[21:30] <daemonoob> nope, ran like sh*t
[21:30] <RickZilla> I see some hacks out there, I was just wondering where ubuntu was with all of that officially
[21:30] <RickZilla> tubuntu
[21:30] <Calinou_> that's why i said "it works". have to gtg now, bye
[21:30] <RickZilla> better go grab the domain
[21:30] <RickZilla> lol
[21:31] <cjae> select it to delete it*
[21:31] <daemonoob> i need to know what this character is and how to reproduce it
[21:31] <SolarisBoy> does anyone have links to some good Ubuntu Specific docs for using live-build? aim is to construct a nice initramfs from where lots of administrative tasks will occur (from memory), so far i have been using the recovery package list (which installs common recovery tools), however i dont see much docs on using live-build specific to ubuntu
[21:31] <ViaNocturna85> RickZilla: I thought on Nexus it was meant to run ok?
[21:31] <escott> hilo, the reason we all hate FTP so much is that it has lots of baggage. you've got no encryption so you add that, you have this weird data/control port non-sense so you take that away, you have non-standard directory listing output so you standardize that, you have non-standard user management so you hook that into the core os... guess what you have then... sftp
[21:31] <acolytetojippity> Has anyone been having trouble locking the computer on 12.10?
[21:31] <dr_willis> hilo:  i just set my router to port forward from like 8889 externally to internal port 21
[21:31] <Erin> escott, ok im lookng at the rsync man page but getting confused can you give me an example of a safe backup command to copy a whole folder recursively to another drive ?
[21:32] <Altair> Is it possible to fix a corrupt volume? Sure the more simple way would to reinstall, but I don't want to do that...
[21:32] <dr_willis> hilo:  i could then ftp to my ip on port 8889 and it goes to my ftp server on the proper port.
[21:32] <hilo> escott, lol yeah I gotchya.
[21:32] <dr_willis> hilo:  or you just set the service to listen to more then 1 port
[21:33] <hilo> dr_willis, my router build has a bug in it that only allows you to forward to the same port internally
[21:33] <Altair> Is it possible to fix a corrupt volume? Sure the simplest way would be to reinstall but I don't want to do that.
[21:33] <WhereIsMySpoon> SonikkuAmerica - get anywhere?
[21:33] <dr_willis> hilo:  set ftp to use a differnt port. better would be to use ssh/scp and a differnt default port. ;)
[21:33] <legitnick> Why is compiz hogging so much cpu usage?
[21:33] <SonikkuAmerica> WhereIsMySpoon: I'm thinking install nouveau, reboot, and try the upgrade again
[21:33] <starfish2> because it hasn't crashed yet.
[21:33] <starfish2> it will.
[21:34] <WhereIsMySpoon> SonikkuAmerica: he tried that, it said it was latest version
[21:34] <Altair> Is it possible to fix a corrupt volume???
[21:34] <legitnick> dd-rescue Altair
[21:34] <dr_willis> hilo:  but then we get into all sorts of security discussions about how to securyre services. ;)
[21:34] <SonikkuAmerica> WhereIsMySpoon: Sorry, I was walking from the music center at my college to the dining hall. Un-blacklist it and enable it
[21:34] <Altair> legitnick: is that just for data restore because I want to fix the OS not just recover the data
[21:34] <SonikkuAmerica> if it isn't already
[21:34] <hilo> dr_willis, setting ftp to a different port tends to break passive which breaks NAT traversal. Which is why we all hate FTP, again. lol Thanks for all your help the past few days.
[21:34] <WhereIsMySpoon> SonikkuAmerica: what? its installed already
[21:35] <WhereIsMySpoon> and is latest ver
[21:35] <SonikkuAmerica> WhereIsMySpoon: Yeah, but you also have the real NVIDIA driver right?
[21:35] <legitnick> Altair do you have any backups?
[21:35] <SolarisBoy> Altair: do you mean corrupt file system? or do you mean restoring data from a hard *disk*?
[21:35] <WhereIsMySpoon> SonikkuAmerica: "real"?
[21:35] <WhereIsMySpoon> you mean xserver-xorg-video-nv?
[21:36] <SonikkuAmerica> WhereIsMySpoon: That's a deprecated driver, use nvidia-current-updates
[21:36] <WhereIsMySpoon> SonikkuAmerica: nvidia-current-updates : Depends: xorg-video-abi-11
[21:36] <WhereIsMySpoon> SonikkuAmerica: xorg-video-abi-11 doesnt exist
[21:36] <legitnick> is there a way to fix compiz from taking up 80% of my cpu
[21:37] <SonikkuAmerica> WhereIsMySpoon: OK, then ... probably your fglrx doesn't support the drivers
[21:37] <goddard> i can successfully listen to this mp3 file but when i convert it to a wav then convert it to a swf it doesn't play
[21:37] <WhereIsMySpoon> SonikkuAmerica: he's got the nouveau dirvers installed, surely thats fine?
[21:37] <Altair> SolarisBoy: A corrupt file system
[21:37] <Altair> legitnick: no
[21:37] <SonikkuAmerica> WhereIsMySpoon: It should be if Compiz works
[21:37] <goddard> using ffmpeg then wav2swf
[21:37] <WhereIsMySpoon> if he doesnt have compiz
[21:37] <WhereIsMySpoon> is that gonna be an issue
[21:38] <legitnick> Can I get rid of it then?
[21:38] <WhereIsMySpoon> he's running xubuntu
[21:38] <SonikkuAmerica> WhereIsMySpoon: Not having Compiz shouldn't be an issue
[21:38] <WhereIsMySpoon> k
[21:38] <WhereIsMySpoon> SonikkuAmerica: hm, any other ideas then? :(
[21:39] <SonikkuAmerica> WhereIsMySpoon: Get an Xubuntu 12.10 Live CD and proceed with installation, selecting "Upgrade Xubuntu 12.04 LTS to Xubuntu 12.10"
[21:39] <SonikkuAmerica> WhereIsMySpoon: Should do the trick
[21:39] <superfake123> could someone help me get my tty1-6 to work D: when I try to access any of them it's just a black screen
[21:39] <WhereIsMySpoon> SonikkuAmerica: that isnt feasible
[21:40] <SonikkuAmerica> WhereIsMySpoon: Try running apt-get update
[21:40] <legitnick> cant you just run apt-get --dist-upgrade
[21:40] <WhereIsMySpoon> SonikkuAmerica: he's up to date with updates
[21:40] <SonikkuAmerica> Good
[21:40] <tre> How can I download security updates using terminal?
[21:40] <Erin> tre, idk about security updates only... but you can always do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade to pull all updates.
[21:41] <legitnick> use selinux
[21:41] <Altair> It's close to the end of 2012. Why aren't there fixes for corrupted file systems yet?
[21:41] <SonikkuAmerica> WhereIsMySpoon: That's about all I can think of
[21:41] <legitnick> is there a way to get rid of unity and compiz on 12.10?
[21:41] <Erin> legitnick, yea use xfce or something similar
[21:41] <WhereIsMySpoon> legitnick: sudo apt-get purge unity compiz
[21:41] <xangua> legitnick: install another desktop
[21:41] <WhereIsMySpoon> then use xfce
[21:41] <escott> Erin, rsync -axP --exclude-from=file_with_directories_to_exclude.txt --link-dest="/path/to/already/existing/copies/on/target/partition" /path/to/source /path/to/target
[21:41] <WhereIsMySpoon> xubuntu-desktop
[21:41] <superfake123> Altair, do you mean the ext4 corruption?
[21:42] <escott> Erin, you can take out the exclude-from and link-dest if you want
[21:42] <legitnick> I'm used to using xfce
[21:42] <Altair> superfake123: no, it's NTFS
[21:42] <Erin> escott, that seems overly complicated won't rsync -av --progress /path/to/source/ /path/to/dest work good ?
[21:42] <WhereIsMySpoon> SonikkuAmerica: :(
[21:42] <SonikkuAmerica> WhereIsMySpoon: Sorry, guess he's stuck with 12.04
[21:42] <escott> Erin, you probably want -axvP
[21:43] <Erin> escott, whats xP do ?
[21:43] <SonikkuAmerica> WhereIsMySpoon: Unless...
[21:43] <superfake123> Altair, oh. sorry I stay away from anything Microsoft as they are Satan worshipers.
[21:43] <WhereIsMySpoon> !
[21:43] <SonikkuAmerica> superfake123: Bahahaha
[21:43] <escott> Erin, actuall -P is progress so
[21:43] <SonikkuAmerica> WhereIsMySpoon: Unless he can mount virtual media
[21:43] <WhereIsMySpoon> how will that help
[21:43] <escott> Erin, x will prevent it from going off that disk if there is another partition mounted inside that disk
[21:43] <SonikkuAmerica> As in mount an ISO image
[21:44] <WhereIsMySpoon> mount 12.10 and chown?
[21:44] <Erin> escott, you mean lock the copy to one partition ?
[21:44] <SonikkuAmerica> Mount 12.10 and autorun
[21:44] <legitnick> xhost +SI:localuser:user will get around that
[21:44] <escott> Erin, if something else is mounted inside the source you probably dont want to copyt that
[21:45] <SonikkuAmerica> WhereIsMySpoon: see if he can get gmount-iso
[21:45] <Erin> escott, so rsync -avxP /hd2/Music/ /hd3/Music
[21:45] <SonikkuAmerica> Download a 12.10 ISO and mount it
[21:45] <WhereIsMySpoon> SonikkuAmerica: er, surely mounting it and autorunning is the same as installing 12.10 from disk
[21:46] <WhereIsMySpoon> it'll overwrite the current install
[21:46] <escott> Erin, sure. rsync is finicky about the final "/" on filenames you might end up with /hd3/Music/Music
[21:46] <end_guy> Figured out my mouse problem. TYPING_BLOCK="-typing-block 300" was set in /etc/default/mouseemu changed it to TYPING_BLOCK="-typing-block 0" and restarted mouseemu (/etc/init.d/mouseemu restart).
[21:46] <Erin> escott, yea typo.
[21:46] <escott> Erin, i can never guess what it will do
[21:46] <Erin> escott, ok I'll go with that command.
[21:46] <end_guy> RTFM FTW! :D
[21:46] <escott> Erin, i just resign myself to fixing it when it dups a folder name
[21:47] <luthor> ciao
[21:47] <SonikkuAmerica> WhereIsMySpoon: no it won't, not if the installer can run
[21:48] <WhereIsMySpoon> SonikkuAmerica: even if /home is on the same partition as the rest of everything?
[21:49] <SonikkuAmerica> WhereIsMySpoon: if the installer can run you can just "Upgrade to Ubuntu 12.10"
[21:49] <SonikkuAmerica> from the ISO
[21:50] <gregory_> can anyone tell me how to extract a plugin file to /usr? I am new to ubuntu and I am getting an error message. I can't put anything in /usr
[21:50] <jrib> gregory_: what exactly are you trying to do?
[21:50] <SonikkuAmerica> Or use the Universal USB installer if you have a 4GB+ flash drive handy
[21:50] <Hausas> [21:42:38] <kashikas> Linus Torvalds can do an infinite loop in five seconds… in his head.
[21:50] <machicola> is there a C++ compiler typically included with ubuntu packages?
[21:51] <WhereIsMySpoon> machicola: gccc
[21:51] <WhereIsMySpoon> gcc*
[21:51] <jrib> machicola: g++
[21:51] <dr_willis> machicola:  gcc is in the repos
[21:51] <SonikkuAmerica> and so is g++
[21:51] <caitiff> gcc is rather good) yeah)
[21:51] <diverdude> Why are there so many errors in ubuntu :(
[21:51] <dr_willis> machicola:  not installed by default
[21:51] <machicola> ahh, ok, thanks
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> diverdude: same in any OS
[21:51] <dr_willis> diverdude:  i often wonder the same thing about windows..  but thats not really a support question.
[21:51] <gregory_> I installed a music program and want to install a plugin for it. Instructions tell me where to put the files, but I am getting a message saying I don't have permission to put files in /usr
[21:52] <legitnick> sudo su
[21:52] <jrib> gregory_: what *exactly* are you trying to do?  Be specific.
[21:52] <caitiff> sudo?
[21:52] <dr_willis> gregory_:  thats because you dont. :)  what pogram and what plugin and what directory?
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> gregory_: run:   gksudo nautilus $HOME    and you can
[21:52] <diverdude> ActionParsnip, not in MacOS...there are no errors
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> legitnick: sudo -i  is advised
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> diverdude: sure there are
[21:52] <k1l> legitnick: dont advise sudo su, that is just wrong on ubuntu
[21:52] <diverdude> ActionParsnip, like what?
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> diverdude: tried using a device with no mac support
[21:53] <legitnick> I usually use su -
[21:53] <ViaNocturna85> diverdude: until OS's are made entirely by robots, all OS's will have bugs
[21:53] <diverdude> ActionParsnip, thats not an OS problem..thats a device problem
[21:53] <dr_willis> legitnick:  that wont work on ubuntu either
[21:53] <WhereIsMySpoon> su is generally not an ubuntu thing
[21:53] <k1l> legitnick: that is not the ubuntu way. so not supported here
[21:53] <k1l> !sudo | legitnick
[21:53] <legitnick> I know I don't use that on ubuntu
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> diverdude: its still an issue with the OS, the hardware is fine, so where is the problem?
[21:53] <k1l> legitnick: so dont advise it here. thanks
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> diverdude: aslo: http://crispierry.typepad.com/applepie/Mac%20Sync%20Error-1.png   and other errors
[21:54] <diverdude> ActionParsnip, the problem is that the producer of the device/hardware did not bother to write a driver
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> diverdude: yes, that affects MacOS
[21:54] <gregory_> ok, I have downloaded a plugin for a program called MuseScore. Here are the instructions: In Linux, MuseScore looks for plugins in /usr/share/mscore-1.2/plugins
[21:55] <SonikkuAmerica> !cp | gregory_
[21:55] <dr_willis> gregory_: most likely theres a directory in your HOME that you could put plugins in also. that would be the safer place to put them
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> diverdude: in short, every OS sucks
[21:55] <gregory_> the plugin is a zip file. but it doesn't allow me to extract to the specified directory.
[21:55] <caitiff> Guys, can anyone give me a link to a good Ubuntu manual site?
[21:55] <jrib> gregory_: how did you install musescore?
[21:55] <xangua> !manual | caitiff
[21:55] <dr_willis> !manual | caitiff
[21:55] <dr_willis> ;)
[21:55] <legitnick> man man
[21:55] <jrib> caitiff: help.ubuntu.com too
[21:55] <mikky> please how do i connect to a shared folder in from my Ubuntu to mac
[21:55] <dr_willis> !info muscore
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> legitnick: man cat     always makes me chuckle
[21:55] <diverdude> ActionParsnip, i just get disappointed when ubuntu fails in very simple GUI operations
[21:55] <caitiff> thx a lot)))
[21:56] <gregory_> that may be right, I can move the plugin file to home, but don't know where it should be located
[21:56] <jrib> !who | gregory_
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> diverdude: like what?
[21:56] <legitnick> man dog
[21:56] <SonikkuAmerica> mikky: You're doing it FROM or TO Ubuntu?
[21:56] <legitnick> gregory_ sudo ln -s it
[21:56] <jrib> gregory_: http://musescore.org/node/10129 says you can use ~/.local/share/data/MusE/MuseScore/plugins
[21:56] <mikky> SonikkuAmerica, from Ubuntu
[21:57] <SonikkuAmerica> mikky: From Unity, go to File > Connect to Server...
[21:57] <SonikkuAmerica> mikky: (the menu bar should say Ubuntu Desktop while you do this)
[21:57] <superfake123> could someone help me get my tty1-6 to work D: when I try to access any of them it's just a black screen
[21:58] <mikky> SonikkuAmerica, no such menu here am using gnome ubuntu
[21:58] <SonikkuAmerica> mikky: GNOME Shell or GNOME Classic?
[21:58]  * caitiff is glad to have no more Win7 at his laptop
[21:58] <diverdude> ActionParsnip, like this: http://imagebin.org/238376
[21:58] <dr_willis> superfake123:  seen that happen with some video card drivers. or framebuffer modes.  the  'nofb' option when bootimg MAY help.
[21:58] <mikky> sorry its unity
[21:58] <SonikkuAmerica> mikky: Not that it mattered. Ignore that. Step 1: Open Nautilus
[21:59] <mikky> the own where all icons are on the left
[21:59] <diverdude> ActionParsnip, which i could not even take a screendump of because for some reason its not possible to take screendumps when the menu is open
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> diverdude: so your issue is with vpn?
[22:00] <SonikkuAmerica> mikky: It IS Unity. So minimize everything and click File > Connect to Server...
[22:00] <mac12> hey guys
[22:00] <mikky> ok
[22:00] <diverdude> ActionParsnip, no....vpn works just fine....but ubuntu has decided that it does not want to show available connections
[22:00] <mikky> SonikkuAmerica, ok done
[22:00] <ViaNocturna85> mac12: hey
[22:01] <Enlight_uni> Hi! does anybody runs samba with automatic advertising through avahi?
[22:01] <mac12> i install lightdm..now it asking for login..but i cant not login using lightdm loging manager..but with same pass i can login from diffren tty
[22:01] <bekks> Enlight_uni: samba does not need automatic advertising through avahi.
[22:01] <mikky> SonikkuAmerica, so what option should i choose
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> diverdude: thats only an issue with network manager..... not ubuntu per se
[22:02] <bekks> Enlight_uni: a) it isnt routable, b) it advertises itself throughout the network.
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> diverdude: are there any bugs reported?
[22:02] <magn3ts> Where can I find the raring ringtail logo in svg?
[22:02] <SonikkuAmerica> mikky: Select the type of connection your file sharing is defined as (FTP, HTTP, SSH, etc.)
[22:02] <diverdude> ActionParsnip, however if i restart it works ok...so after a while ubuntu decides that now it does not want to show the connections any longer
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> diverdude: are there any bugs reported?
[22:02] <mikky> ok Sonikku
[22:02] <mikky> thanks
[22:02] <diverdude> ActionParsnip, im not really sure about that
[22:02] <mikky> SonikkuAmerica, thanks
[22:02] <SonikkuAmerica> mikky: Then type in the IP address of your Mac and click OK. You're welcome.
[22:03] <diverdude> ActionParsnip, but you gotta give me....obvious errors like that does not occur in mac.....actually not even in windows :(
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> diverdude: it can
[22:03] <Erin> all the sudden my X11 windows forwarded to my windows 7 box take forever to pop up.... an ssh server reboot didn't help
[22:03] <Erin> hmm..
[22:04] <Enlight_uni> bekks: a) false b) using an awfull protocol 3) has avahi support
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> diverdude: tried uninstalling an application in Vista in safe mode?
[22:04] <bekks> Enlight_uni: 1) 2) 3) LOL
[22:04] <Enlight_uni> bekks: a) false b) using an awfull protocol c) has avahi support built'in
[22:05] <Enlight_uni> bekks: read the sources or do ldd on smbd
[22:05] <diverdude> ActionParsnip, no
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> diverdude: its not possible without hacking the registry. The windows installer is prohibited to run in safe mode
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> diverdude: stupid huh?
[22:05] <bekks> Enlight_uni: Then try to explain why samba does not even know what avahi might be on other platforms.
[22:05] <diverdude> ActionParsnip, ok...but windows is also a quite poor OS...very true....mac however does not have all these embarrasiing problems for some reason
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> diverdude: mac has its issues too, its not perfect
[22:07] <Enlight_uni> bekks: facts vs random words... thanks for your help anyway
[22:07] <diverdude> ActionParsnip, i really wish that was the same for linux....i am 100% pro linux...so i am just disappointed whenever all the mac guys can point fingers and say HAH that never happens in mac...and all i can do is to say...thats tru
[22:07] <diverdude> true
[22:07] <bekks> Enlight_uni: Well, whatever you might think.
[22:07] <herobubba> anybody had problems with the edimax nano usb wifi adapter in ubuntu?
[22:07] <Enlight_uni> bekks: i DO NOT think i read the sources of smbd
[22:08] <Enlight_uni> bekks: their IS avahi publish support
[22:08] <Enlight_uni> there*
[22:08] <ViaNocturna85> diverdude: Mac has issues, but dont forget, although they are both Unix children, they are 2 different OS's
[22:08] <ActionParsnip> diverdude: depends on needs, I don't have any issues in my linux boxes, or the systems I have setup for people
[22:08] <Enlight_uni> bekks: http://gitweb.samba.org/?p=ab/samba-autobuild/.git;a=blob;f=source3/smbd/avahi_register.c;h=368168d41dc4a8c07f192786f03cec472caf9504;hb=HEAD
[22:09] <diverdude> ActionParsnip, you gotta admit...the issue i just showed is a pretty embarrasing error in a modern OS
[22:10] <ActionParsnip> diverdude: i don't find operating systems embarassing
[22:10] <diverdude> ActionParsnip, i think thats the reason why linux is not able to go all the way :(
[22:10] <ActionParsnip> diverdude: why does it have to?
[22:11] <diverdude> ActionParsnip, well if not whats then the point?
[22:11] <Enlight_uni> bekks: trusting me now?
[22:11] <ViaNocturna85> diverdude: if linux is so bad, why are the majority of servers, mobiles, car systems and more running linux?
[22:11] <auronandace> diverdude: what issue you having?
[22:12] <_Tristan> Hi. I don't have the ubuntu font, does anybody know what package it's in?
[22:12] <diverdude> ViaNocturna85, those are terminals...i know that linux' major problems are in the desktop environments...its a very stable server system
[22:12] <jrib> diverdude: this channel is for support; i.e. asking about and helping with an actual issue.  Let's try to stay on-topic
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> diverdude: because, the OS is a tool for the job. Irrelevant of it 'going all the way' (whatever that means). What you seem to be completely missing is that if the OS suits your needs then use it. Why care if it's popular or cool or anything like that? Are you that insecure that you have to bounce with what is popular?
[22:12] <diverdude> auronandace,  jrib  this issue: http://imagebin.org/238376
[22:12] <k1l> diverdude: dont you think your topic would suit better into #ubuntu-discuss or #ubuntu-offtopic  ?
[22:13] <jrib> diverdude: that's fine.  Let's keep the discussion related to fixing the issue please.  Discussing the advantages and disadvantages of different OSes is interesting, but should be done in #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:15] <herobubba> so. anybody?
[22:15] <jrib> !helpme | herobubba
[22:15] <diverdude> jrib, any idea why ubuntu does that?
[22:15] <ania_> GANGNAM STYLE
[22:16] <jrib> diverdude: no
[22:16] <dr_willis> herobubba:  with what? i dident even see the issue..
[22:16] <Peace-> ania_: die lol
[22:16] <diverdude> jrib, hmm
[22:16] <Peace-> dr_willis:  :) http://wstaw.org/m/2012/12/06/plasma-desktopCv2016.png tx you
[22:16] <herobubba> i asked if anybody had any issues with an edimax adapter
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> diverdude: are there any bugs reported?
[22:16] <ania_> my ubuntu acts strange when i play this :D
[22:17] <diverdude> ActionParsnip, how can i find out?
[22:17] <diverdude> Peace-, what desktop r u using?
[22:17] <dr_willis> herobubba:  i guess if no one replyied then no one does. ;) or they have no idea what that adaptor is.
[22:17] <herobubba> i got it working an.
[22:17] <herobubba> .
[22:17] <herobubba> .
[22:17] <herobubba> .
[22:17] <Peace-> diverdude: it's kde with homerun launcher
[22:17] <FloodBot1> herobubba: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> diverdude: run:   ubuntu-bug network-manager       type your bug then see if it's already reported
[22:18] <ActionParsnip> diverdude: could also install xfce or some other desktop, see if it's affected there too
[22:18] <dr_willis> Peace-:  my Pi has been on backorder for 3 Mo. ;) Its supposed to get here befor Xmas. ;p
[22:18] <Peace-> dr_willis: well it was 6 months i was waiting
[22:18] <diverdude> ActionParsnip, how do i type my bug? "vpn not showing in menu" ?
[22:18] <ania_> dr_willis, are yuo watiitng ofr pi?
[22:18] <Peace-> dr_willis: at least i got it with 512 of ram
[22:18] <ViaNocturna85> diverdude: try turning the applet off and on again
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> diverdude: sure, sounds fine
[22:19] <uponunotab> Hi everyone, I've a external drive that is not been detected by ubuntu 12.10, the error is this> unable to enumerate usb device on port 2
[22:19] <ViaNocturna85> diverdude: talking about this bug?: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/983583
[22:19] <dr_willis> Peace-:  Yep. ;) thats one nice thing about the wait.
[22:19] <ania_> dr_willis, i just checked on rs components and they can send next day delivery over 870  unts
[22:19] <dr_willis> ania_:  i dont think i need that many. ;) I just ordered 2.
[22:19] <herobubba> any way i gort my wireless adapter to work and then it quit on me in ubuntu but it still works  in windows
[22:20] <uponunotab> I already tried the unbind command, and it's not working.. it just shuts down all usbs.. but in 10.04 it works.
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> diverdude: could also try other Linux based OS (non-debian based) see if it affects them too
[22:20] <diverdude> so how do i restart nm manager?
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> herobubba: what wifi chip?
[22:20] <uponunotab> diverdude: pkill nm-applet && nm-applet &
[22:21] <ViaNocturna85> diverdude: click on network icon then untick 'enable networking' then repeat to turn it back on
[22:21] <herobubba> ralink i i think
[22:21] <jtrucks> hmm. http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/thank-you?release=latest&bits=32&distro=desktop&status=zeroc produced errors for me (but still worked). http://pastebin.com/huqwZzsg for error text
[22:21] <jtrucks> ^^ anyone official who is paying attention
[22:22] <uponunotab> is there anyone that can help me with the enumerate usb error "
[22:22] <dr_willis> uponunotab:  you sure the drive is not dead/dieing?
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> jtrucks: what does 'official' mean?
[22:23] <dr_willis> and if its a portable hd. its not overpowering the usb bus.
[22:23] <uponunotab> yeap, I tested on my other laptop with ubuntu 10.04 LTS and it works with this command> sudo echo -n "0000:00:1d.7" > /sys/bus/pci/drivers/ehci_hcd/unbind
[22:23] <jtrucks> ActionParsnip: whoever might manage the site :)
[22:23] <uponunotab> dr_willis:
[22:23] <greoislip> hello
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> jtrucks: i suggest you report a bug
[22:24] <dr_willis> uponunotab:  err.. i would have tested it by just seeing if i could mount it and access it. ;) Ive no idea what that fancy command is supposed to do. ;P
[22:24] <uponunotab> dr_willis: the problem is that in ubuntu 12.04 I don't see any "0000 00 1d.7" in the ehci_hcd
[22:24] <uponunotab> and when I do that command on ubuntu 12.10 it just shuts down all usbs
[22:25] <OerHeks> jtrucks, hit F5 and try again ? http://www.ubuntu.com/start-download?distro=desktop&bits=32&release=latest
[22:25] <dr_willis> unperson:  so the issue is you are trying to power it down?  or have i missed somthing.
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> jtrucks: I always use cdimage website
[22:26] <uponunotab> no the issue is that that command is suppous to mount the drive on ubuntu 12.10 and it's just shutting down the usbs
[22:26] <uponunotab> also it doesn't even recognises the drive..
[22:26] <escott> uponunotab, it failed enumeration so its not there to unbind.
[22:27] <uponunotab> escott: then why do I have the same error in ubuntu 10.04 and the unbind command works
[22:27] <legitnick> do you get an error is dmesg?
[22:27] <uponunotab> escott: I've checked dmesg and they both say enumerate.. the only difference is that ubuntu 12.10 doesn't even recognises the drive.. neither it mounts..
[22:28] <escott> uponunotab, i guess im a big lost. first off why are you unbinding what driver are you eventually attaching?
[22:28] <escott> s/big/bit/
[22:28] <uponunotab> to mount it..
[22:28] <uponunotab> wait I will show you the error in dmesg
[22:28] <uponunotab> you can search.. you will find the unbind command AS a solution
[22:28] <uponunotab> [ 7767.352289] hub 2-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 1
[22:28] <dr_willis> ive never seen that sort of command used to 'mount' a hard drive.   guess ive never had to go that extreme
[22:29] <escott> uponunotab, unbind implies the kernel selected a driver for the device, but you want another driver (ie it selected HID and you want usb-mass-storage)
[22:29] <uponunotab> both laptops says that a lot of times, but 10.04 can mount it with the unbind command...
[22:29] <uponunotab> that makes sense, but I don't see the serie number(or whatever the 0000 00 1d 7 is..) in ubuntu 12.10
[22:30] <escott> uponunotab, maybe 12.10 the bad driver is never attaching to the device
[22:30] <texos> New Ubuntu 12.10 64bit Live Boot, It saw the Windows 7, but just asked to replace it. Not to install side by side!?
[22:30] <escott> uponunotab, so when you unbind you either crash the ehci stack or unbind ehci from the hub
[22:31] <texos> How do I get a dual boot?
[22:31] <jtrucks> ActionParsnip: the page is sending me the image I need, so it works. It just produces errors on the page.
[22:31] <mnathani> I just installed ubuntu on my macbookpro, but when it rebooted, It does not seem to load (using refit)
[22:31] <uponunotab> in ubuntu 10.04(works..) there is 0000:00:1a.7  0000:00:1d.7 in /sys/bus/pci/drivers/ehci_hcd/ and ubuntu 12.10 only has 0000:00:1a.0 and 0000:00:1d.0
[22:31] <dr_willis> texos:  check your disk partioning layout. its possible you have 4 primary partions allready and thats stopping it from doing a dual boot install
[22:31] <uponunotab> at my laptop with 10.04 it works fine.. the problem is on my toshiba qosmio wich has ubuntu 12.10...
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> texos: I suggest you boot to win7, resize the ntfs there, then boot to the ubuntu cd and install to the free space
[22:31] <escott> uponunotab, if it doesn't see function seven you can't unbind function seven
[22:32] <jtrucks> also, there isn't a place on that page to report a bug, so really, it's not worth the extra effort of trying to hunt that down.
[22:32] <uponunotab> yeah but how do I add function 7 ?
[22:32] <texos> Great thank you dr_willis  and ActionParsnip
[22:32] <escott> uponunotab, i would start by figuring out why you are having to do this unbind business under 12.04 and what driver you are actually using for the device
[22:33] <uponunotab> I've searched a lot.. there isn't much people with this problem
[22:33] <uponunotab> and most of them have with other hardware.. like keyboard..
[22:33] <uponunotab> I even blacklist the ehci_hcd
[22:33] <uponunotab> no luck :(
[22:35] <Pythagoras> do i need to have my ghost in /var/www ?
[22:36] <Pythagoras> vhost
[22:36] <jrib> Pythagoras: no
[22:36] <escott> uponunotab, if you browse /sys/bus/usb you will see a symlink from the device to the driver. use that to figure out what driver 12.04 is using
[22:36] <uponunotab> I will try that
[22:37] <escott> uponunotab, there may be some other way to figure that out, but /sys will work to
[22:38] <Pythagoras> jrib: ok thanks, my main site is in /home/user/public/www.xxx
[22:38] <uponunotab> escott: I just notice that there is the unbind for each driver.
[22:38] <Pythagoras> where would you put the vhost?
[22:38] <jrib> Pythagoras: that's fine; just make sure www-data can read it
[22:38] <uponunotab> maybe I can try unbind each driver .
[22:38] <escott> uponunotab, i dont think you know what unbind/bind do
[22:39] <uponunotab> well, whatever it does, it helps mounting..
[22:39] <escott> uponunotab, a device function is bound to a particular kernel driver. you can unbind a bound device function and then bind it to a different device function
[22:40] <uponunotab> http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/hardware/455688-opensuse-11-4-getting-hub-2-0-1-0-unable-enumerate-usb-device-port-5-constantly.html
[22:40] <uponunotab> they are using unbind + bind
[22:40] <escott> uponunotab, sure. the kernel driver selected by default and bound by default to that function is not working properly for that function. so they unbind it and bind it to something else
[22:42] <Zael> what's filter failed mean when printing?
[22:42] <escott> uponunotab, there is also this whole (O|E|U)HCI thing from USB1.0/1.1
[22:43] <escott> uponunotab, so if this is usb1.0/1.1 hub or plugged into a usb1.0/1.1 port then it could be selecting the wrong (vowel)HCI
[22:43] <escott> uponunotab, http://blogs.gurulabs.com/stuart/archives/2006/06/post.html
[22:43] <uponunotab> hum
[22:43] <uponunotab> but this is worst then I thought..
[22:43] <gfeng> hi
[22:43] <uponunotab> when I do lsusb.. it's not even there
[22:44] <escott> Zael, the document has to be run through a filter (to convert it to a raster or remove things that would be printed off-page) before being sent to the printer
[22:44] <munaq> hello
[22:44] <munaq> :)
[22:44] <uponunotab> nvm
[22:46] <uponunotab> escott:  modprobe -r ehci_hcd  when I do this it says "built in"
[22:46] <escott> uponunotab, its not a module. you can unbind it from a device if you want to use one of the others, but you cant remove it from the kernel
[22:46] <uponunotab> "Some people report that the support for ECHI in the kernel its the problem. When they re-compiled the kernel removing this option, fixed the problem."
[22:47] <escott> uponunotab, EHCI is the usb2.0 and above driver. now that we have EHCI most of the (vowel)HCI problems have gone away. perhaps your hub is very old and usb1.0/1.1 hub
[22:47] <uponunotab> I will try waiting for 13.04..
[22:47] <dr_willis> Hmm. if using a hub.. does it work properly if plugged in directly?
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> uponunotab: its available in pre-release form already
[22:47] <uponunotab> I've tried on the USB 3.0 port
[22:47] <escott> uponunotab, you can try and unbind EHCI, and bind U or OHCI and see if one of those work better
[22:48] <uponunotab> Last time I unbinded my mouse stopped working, and I had to reboot
[22:48] <uponunotab> there was a command to bind it back or something, but I forgot
[22:48] <escott> uponunotab, is some part of this setup really old. like the hub or the disk?
[22:49] <escott> uponunotab, the port is a 3.0 so thats brand new
[22:49] <uponunotab> the drive is old..
[22:49] <uponunotab> like from 2006 or 2005
[22:49] <uponunotab> "Imation" is the name of the drive...
[22:49] <ShawnRisk> Is there a way to put the close + other buttons on the right side of the window even if open max in Ubuntu 12.10 with Unity?
[22:49] <escott> uponunotab, my guess is that the disk is a buggy 1.1 disk and requires some weird behaviour out of OHCI or UHCI that EHCI is not emulating identically
[22:49] <uponunotab> I mean, the disk.
[22:50] <escott> uponunotab, although usb2.0 was in 2000 so
[22:50] <dr_willis> ShawnRisk:  i think if you disable global menu it might do that. but it might also just hide the buttons on mazamized windows.
[22:50] <k1l> ShawnRisk: not when mixaimized iirc
[22:50] <escott> uponunotab, try plugging the whole thing into your usb2.0 port and seeing if that works better
[22:50] <escott> usb1.0 was 1996 that makes me feel really old
[22:52] <Zael> escott: thanks, deleting it and setting it back up seems to have worked; it must be because there were some cups updates
[22:52] <ShawnRisk> k1l: how come?
[22:53] <k1l> ShawnRisk: thats coded and one of the elements from unity. you can use the "old trick" to set the buttons to the right for window mode
[22:55] <ShawnRisk> k1l: which is?
[22:56] <Zael> so i've yet to figure out what the issue is with unity and ati cards, where you install the closed source drivers and never get to see anything but your wallpaper again
[22:57] <Zael> i even tried installing kde full to fix it and it didn't work... i just gave up and installed xubuntu over my ubuntu install
[22:57] <fabionick> !list
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> Zael: which ati gpu and which release?
[22:58] <k1l> ShawnRisk: take a look if that still works. should be dconf now https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/config-desktop/C/window-button-order.html
[22:58] <Zael> 12.10 radeon hd 5670
[22:58] <jeeves_moss> if I have the %maildir% dump from my pooched dovecot install, is there a way to get the e-mails back out of the database so I can import them into a mail program, and then offload them to Exchange?
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> Zael: there is a known issue with 12.10 and 2xxx, 3xxx and 4xxx. 5xxx should be ok
[22:59] <Zael> yeah, i read that ActionParsnip... but mine wasn't ok
[23:01] <ActionParsnip> Zael: tried the same ppa, just in case it makes things better?
[23:01] <Zael> i tried a ton of stuff; like i said, even trying to install kde full after that
[23:02] <Zael> i kinda like xubuntu better though, now that i've used it
[23:02] <Staiden> hey guys, im trying to duel boot windows 7 and ubuntu 12.04 we have ubuntu installed, if I run a live cd of ubuntu I can see the files on the drive. except for when the computer boots I cant get into Ubuntu only win 7
[23:02] <Zael> i just think it's a major issue to be having
[23:03] <dr_willis> Staiden:  you dont even see the GRUB menu when you bootup?
[23:03] <Staiden> nah no grub straiht to 7
[23:03] <Zael> my view may be a bit one-sided though.. with the bad experiences i've had and witnessed in the past with nvidia cards, especially the hardware bug that was in everything from the 8000 series and up that caused 'display driver has stopped responding'... i just won't even consider using nvidia anymore
[23:04] <ShawnRisk> k1l: that is not for max windows this is only for smaller windows.
[23:04] <RickZilla> Staiden: What are you trying to accomplish?
[23:05] <code> anyone have any resources on installing ubuntu server 12.04.1 on the latest mac mini? i got around vga issues (blank screen), but apparently nic drivers are unsupported now. looks like it's a BCM5701
[23:05] <k1l> ShawnRisk: that is what i told ya
[23:05] <Staiden> duel booting windows 7 and ubuntu
[23:05] <Zael> RichardBronosky: i think he install ubuntu, then installed windows
[23:05] <Staiden> no grub loader tho for some reason
[23:05] <ShawnRisk> k1l: yep and now I know it is not possible
[23:05] <k1l> ShawnRisk: i said it wont work for maximzed, because that is not supposed to be the wayyou want it
[23:05] <Staiden> nah I had 7 made a partition
[23:05] <RickZilla> Staiden: Hmmm...and you've already installed one instance of ubuntu on that machine?
[23:05] <Staiden> yea and its there
[23:06] <Staiden> I can see the drive from the live cd
[23:06] <Staiden> I just cant boot to it
[23:06] <Zael> need to fix your grub then
[23:06] <ShawnRisk> k1l: that is not good, I thought Ubuntu let me customize everything
[23:06] <RickZilla> Yeah, I was thinknig about what to do in grub
[23:06] <k1l> ShawnRisk: who ever told you that?
[23:07] <ShawnRisk> k1l: me
[23:07] <Staiden> its shows grub and grub has a folder list
[23:07] <k1l> ShawnRisk: if you want to customize everything you need to learn to programm :/
[23:07] <RickZilla> Myth #48: In ubuntu, you can customize whatever you want to
[23:07] <ShawnRisk> k1l: I know how to do program
[23:07] <bekks> ShawnRisk: program what?
[23:08] <ShawnRisk> bekks: program as in work in computer programming languages to build apps, websites etc
[23:08] <bekks> ShawnRisk: which means "Visual Basic, HTML, PHP"?
[23:08] <Zael> Staiden: i think the command is update-grub
[23:09] <k1l> ShawnRisk: then make a path and submit it. maybe more users want that to be changeable
[23:09] <Staiden> k, gimme a second
[23:09] <scalability-junk> hey I'm starting my way into ubuntu setup with kickstart file and was trying to find a good partitioning scheme.
[23:10] <scalability-junk> I have one partition for raid on each disk with about 95% of the storage and made an raid1 at md0
[23:10] <ShawnRisk> bekks: yes but I know languages like c, c++, etc.  I have been programming most of my adult life so I know how to do this.
[23:11] <scalability-junk> additionally I added 2 swap partitions and now wanted to get my head around how to get the mbr on both disks, so that if one disk fails I still can boot...
[23:11] <nodestool> i have a program that has to run as root that i want to run in the background ONLY for a specific user, is there a way to do that?
[23:11] <bekks> ShawnRisk: Then you should be able to submit patches.
[23:11] <ShawnRisk> k1l: thanks for letting me know what I have to do
[23:11] <scalability-junk> the md0 raid is mounted with / and will later be used with lvm probably to give space for os and one encrypted partition.
[23:11] <scalability-junk> any tip would be great thanks
[23:11] <ShawnRisk> bekks: I can do that just would take me time to figure out where this is located in the code.
[23:11] <dr_willis> nodestool:  not sure what you mean by 'only for a specific user'
[23:12] <ShawnRisk> I have to go  but if I need anymore help I will be back
[23:12] <bekks> ShawnRisk: Thats the price to paid for using free software and wanting to change it.
[23:12] <k1l> ShawnRisk: i dont think that the unity developers will make it changeable, because that is the way they (might) think its should be. so if you want it you need do to some work on it :/
[23:12] <nodestool> dr_willis: i want to set it up so basically a cron job runs only when a certian user is logged in
[23:12] <ShawnRisk> bekks: it is a good price to pay
[23:13] <ShawnRisk> k1l: I am willing to do the work
[23:13] <ShawnRisk> I just need to research
[23:13] <k1l> ShawnRisk: ok, thanks
[23:13] <ShawnRisk> k1l: you're welcome
[23:14] <Zael> oh.. i found a neat new toy.. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[23:14] <ShawnRisk> I am out of here, thanks to all of the help
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> Zael: I use a chroot for that :)
[23:17] <nodestool> what would also work is when and ONLY when User X logs in script Y runs AS ROOT
[23:17] <nodestool> how would i do that
[23:18] <scalability-junk> no idea about the master boot record?
[23:18] <bekks> nodestool: Assuming X uses bash, you could implement that in his bashrc
[23:18] <derek01> Hey all, so, I made a huge mistake, and, chmod -R 777 to /usr
[23:18] <dr_willis> nodestool:  you would have to make a script that would run, verify the user is logged in, then run.. what are yoy trying to do that needs this done in such a weird way?
[23:18] <bekks> derek01: No its time to grab your backup.
[23:19] <derek01> bekks: no backup, but I still have root access
[23:19] <Zael> :D
[23:19] <bekks> derek01: Why do you have root access?
[23:19] <bekks> derek01: Which Ubuntu is it exactly?
[23:19] <derek01> bekks: sudo wont work, 12.04 server
[23:19] <nodestool> bekks: i am guessing the user will only use the gui (xfc4 in my case)
[23:19] <bekks> derek01: Why do you have root access?
[23:20] <derek01> bekks: why wouldnt I, If I cant use sudo, I need to use root, to fix the issue, do I not?
[23:20] <nodestool> dr_willis: i am making a honey pot user account and i need to log stuff
[23:20] <bekks> derek01: By default, the root account is disabled in Ubuntu.
[23:21] <graft> hi, is there a place on freenode where i can complain about the pluses and minuses of various linux distributions?
[23:21] <derek01> bekks: correct, but I have set a pw for it for emergency situations. like this :D
[23:21] <nodestool> graft: start a blog! :)
[23:21] <dr_willis> graft:  you can complain i guess.. but if people listen... ;)
[23:21] <dr_willis> graft:  general linux  is #linux
[23:21] <Zael> lol... a blog
[23:21] <PoolShark_> Slashdot
[23:21] <dr_willis> Complaining about the Pluss of Linux. ;)
[23:22] <Zael> if you start a blog, you need RSS... i hate blogs without RSS
[23:22] <PoolShark_> well, they _used_ to talk about varios linux distros at Slashdot, but now it's just an Apple Fanboi blog
[23:22] <derek01> bekks: do you know of a solution?
[23:22] <bekks> derek01: Your backup is the only solution. You really messed it up.
[23:23] <graft> Zael: what about atom?
[23:23] <PoolShark_> derek01 what did you do to your  machine?
[23:23] <Zael> yes, atom is good
[23:23] <derek01> Poolshark: chmod -R 777 to /usr
[23:23] <ActionParsnip> graft: also ##club-ubuntu
[23:23] <ActionParsnip> derek01: really?
[23:23] <Zael> lol
[23:23] <PoolShark_> derek01: oh wow, you really did that?
[23:23] <derek01> poolshark: not sure how deep it got before I realized
[23:23]  * ActionParsnip facepalms
[23:24] <derek01> poolshark: didnt mean to, I know I derpd bad
[23:24] <PoolShark_> derek01: yeah not much you can do about that
[23:24] <derek01> damnit, it really is a copy and reinstall situation. Damnit.....
[23:25] <derek01> well thanks anyways guys
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> derek01: if you have a LOT of time you could boot to liveCD and chmod it to be like in the livecd, it'll take a ;llong while
[23:26] <puff`> I am trying to run with the nvida drivers.  Ubuntu has the xswat PPA which appears to be serving nvidia 304 drivers. I'm trying to figure out how to try something more up to date, is there a PPA for the 310 driver or do I have to jump to (ugh) trying the nvidia binary installer?
[23:27] <k1l> puff`: 310 is inthe regular 12.10 repos
[23:28] <WeThePeople> is there anything better than recordmydesktop
[23:28] <MonkeyDust> WeThePeople  try kazam
[23:28] <Zael> recordmyneighborsdesktop
[23:28] <Zael> ;D
[23:29] <almoxarife> Zael: much 'better'
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> WeThePeople: not really better, just different. like all softwares
[23:29] <WeThePeople> thankyou anyways
[23:30] <almoxarife> is there anything better than KDE?
[23:30] <ActionParsnip> WeThePeople: look into xvidwincap too (i think its that)
[23:31] <dr_willis> wasent gnome-shell suposed to have some sort of video/screen capture feature?
[23:31] <dr_willis> or was that a work in progress?
[23:31] <puff`> k1l: I'm still on 11.10.
[23:31] <tomas_> when are we going to get better wallpapers
[23:32] <Zael> xfce.. except the wallpaper changer isn't working currently... so i'm using Variety to switch to a different on of my 75 tiger wallpapers every 5 minutes
[23:32] <derek01> Actionparsnip: as in take a long time to do, or the one command will take forever to execute
[23:32] <almoxarife> WeThePeople: how about something nice and simple, vlc!
[23:33] <bobolishus> I'm trying to delete a type of file using wildcard like "sudo rm /basefolder/*/*.txt" but this doesn't work.  What should I be doing for this to work?
[23:33] <k1l> puff: well, that is a difficult one
[23:33] <WeThePeople> almoxarife, to record my desktop?
[23:33] <almoxarife> WeThePeople: yes
[23:33] <escott> bobolishus, find /basefolder/ -iname *.txt -delete
[23:34] <jrib> bobolishus: it depends on what you actually want to do ...
[23:34] <Zael> escott: would the recursive flag work for rm?
[23:34] <ActionParsnip> derek01: no, lots of the files and folders have different accesses on them , they will need to be right so you will run and you will need to check so that everything is good
[23:35] <escott> Zael, no its a shell globbing issue
[23:35] <bobolishus> I just want to delete a file type from multiple folders
[23:35] <jrib> bobolishus: recursively?
[23:35] <escott> bobolishus, you have been given a command that will do it
[23:35] <bobolishus> escott, thank you very much for your help
[23:36] <jrib> bobolishus: if you want to do it recursively, then use escott's command.   But you should surround the *.txt with single quotes: '*.txt'
[23:37] <ActionParsnip> derek01: if you have a backup, now would be the time for them to shine
[23:37] <bobolishus> jrib: thank you
[23:38] <derek01> Actionparsnip: nope fresh reinstall it is
[23:39] <derek01> thanks for the help though guys. See ya
[23:45] <jtrucks> okay, first time i've seen the new ubuntu desktop.
[23:45] <jtrucks> no wonder people complain... how do I open a terminal?
[23:46] <Zael> click the top left circular bubble thingy and type terminal in the search box
[23:46] <jtrucks> oof. thanks.
[23:46] <Zael> then get mad and install xubuntu like i did
[23:46] <jtrucks> that would have taken a while to figure out...
[23:46] <jtrucks> haha
[23:47] <dr_willis> !manual | jtrucks
[23:47] <jtrucks> this is just to fix a POS gentoo based appliance.
[23:47] <dr_willis> ;)
[23:47] <jtrucks> hah
[23:47] <dr_willis> if you want the old skool type look. you can try Lubuntu
[23:47] <pgib> fluxbox
[23:48] <muji> hey does any1 know of an equalizer for linux? or if there is one that comes with ubuntu?
[23:48] <muji> i couldn't find anything in my sounds options
[23:48] <dr_willis> they really should borrow the idea i see on so many android apps and have little tutorial-overlays
[23:48] <dr_willis> muji:  ive seen some you could download.. but that was some time ago. like 2+ yrs.
[23:49] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/72679/is-there-any-sound-enhancers-equalizer  muji
[23:49] <Erin> so I run ncmpcpp through ssh to control my music. But some of the chars are garbled on the windows side, but not on the ubuntu side. same encoding utf-8 I think? any ideas
[23:49] <pgib> muji, ubuntu uses pulse audio. I'm sure there is an equalizer for it
[23:50] <pgib> pulseaudio
[23:50] <almoxarife> Erin: toss windoz?
[23:50] <muji> i'l see if i can find one for pulseaudio, but will take a look at that site dr_willis sent me
[23:50] <Erin> almoxarife, id love to but i'm a gamer :-\
[23:50] <dr_willis> just no equilizers in the default repos. ;)
[23:51] <Zael> same reason i have windows 7 dual booting, Erin
[23:51] <lcabreza> hi, how do i specify a wireless adapter to use only a specific client like wicd
[23:51] <Erin> These are two different machines
[23:51] <Erin> my ubuntu box is a pre-amp / samba server/ssh server etc.
[23:51] <Erin> http://imgur.com/3ZU2N here is my problem
[23:56] <CarlOSx86> Hi, anyone on Xubuntu?
[23:56] <Zael> yus
[23:56] <Erin> I am.
[23:57] <CarlOSx86> I'm basically new and I would like to ask about compiz settings manager. I tried to install from ubuntu center but it doesn't seems to work properly...
[23:58] <K350> turses wont start again after I closed it from the first start and autorization. Anyone?
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> CarlOSx86: what do you want to achieve?
[23:59] <WeThePeople> what is the force quit application called
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> WeThePeople: xkill
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> WeThePeople: you can click an app and it will die
[23:59] <WeThePeople> sweeeeet!! just did