[04:13] <c2tarun> each time I open chrome or chromium I get a popup to unlock keyring. Can anyone please tell what is this keyring for?
[04:14] <holstein> c2tarun: maybe take a screenshot...
[04:15] <c2tarun> holstein, you dont get that?? I googled and everyone is getting it :(
[04:15] <c2tarun> holstein, which browser are you using?
[04:15] <holstein> c2tarun: correct... i dont get it. you mind taking a screenshot so i know what is popping up?
[04:15] <holstein> im using chrome
[04:21] <holstein> well, i see there is an update i havnet downoaded.. and a kernel upgrade too.. so lemme reboot and see if its "broken"
[04:21] <c2tarun> holstein, wait, I have to log-off and relogin, I'll post screenshot in a moment.
[04:22] <holstein> yeah? so its not each time.. just when you login the first time?
[04:54] <c2tarun> holstein, we can't take its screen shot, nothing works when the popup box comes up.
[05:45] <johnride> Hi, where can I find an iso of XUbuntu ppc under 700Mo to write it on a CD?
[05:45] <johnride> For an IMac G3
[06:22] <agrester> Hello?
[06:22] <agrester> Have a problem with lightdm-gtk-greeter
[06:33] <c2tarun> agrester, what problem?
[06:37] <agrester> Basically I set lightdm-gtk-greeter to have a backround=path and for some reason the background at the greeter stage has this bizarre pixelated noise and it looks like distortion...
[06:37] <agrester> It's so strange, it's all messed up now, everything appears to be at default...
[06:38] <c2tarun> good job :) now just hang around, some one will answer you soon.
[06:38] <agrester> I can paste bin
[06:40] <agrester> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1414084/
[10:19] <popolon> hi, I discovered a strange thing in xubuntu 12.10. My system is in french by default, I added chinese, and when I want to log xubuntu or xfce desktop in chinese it's still in french ???
[10:20] <popolon> on a computer I managed to be able to switch to chinese, by choosing gnome at session login + chinese as language
[10:20] <popolon> gnome crashed, I've only background at least
[10:20] <popolon> I switched to console (ctrl+f1), killed gnome session, logued again with xfce in chinese, and then chinese xfce appear
[10:21] <popolon> works now with xfce & xubuntu desktop
[10:26] <popolon> an another computer I would like to do the same thing, without installing gnome
[12:19] <popolon> why network is not visible by default in thunar on xubuntu 12.10 ? Is there a documented method to get it ? all docs /faq I found are back from 2006, and don't seem to be the same than today ?
[12:26] <popolon> http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/xubuntu-quetzal.html
[12:26] <popolon> there is another guy saying that. no network/print share in 12.10
[12:27] <popolon> it doesn't have volume control, I have after install, but since yesterday, don't know why for, I had to readd it, and don't manage well my card, only a master control ????
[12:28] <popolon> I didn't added ppa or external software for now, but a firefox in /opt/ own directory from mozilla ftp
[12:29] <olbi> I have strange things on one computer with Xubuntu 12.10, that is hardware problem, allways have big file like .xsession-errors and .xsession-errors.old.backup
[12:29] <olbi> one time it was 92GB! :]
[12:29] <blackgatonegro> olbi, try using 12.04, is a lts
[12:30] <olbi> but it only appears with 12.10 and on this computer :P this is 6 years old :] soon I will change him to much more actually unit :]
[12:30] <olbi> now I will stay with 11.10 :]
[12:30] <blackgatonegro> olbi, 12.04 is a lts, 11.10 is not.
[12:31] <popolon> with 12.04, ibus + compose key didn't integrate well
[12:31] <popolon> now that's resolved
[12:32] <popolon> I can again type in full french typographie
[12:32] <blackgatonegro> popolon, 12.04 had a lot of updates since then
[12:32] <popolon> I only installed 12.10 sunday
[12:32] <popolon> for my main computer
[12:32] <popolon> and yesterday for another one
[12:32] <blackgatonegro> 12.10 makes many changes compared to 12.04
[12:32] <blackgatonegro> 12.04 is a long term release, that means it will last longer
[12:34] <blackgatonegro> besides if you get 90 GB errors is a bad idea to stay in 12.10
[12:34] <blackgatonegro> the fonts have been fixed in 12.04
[12:34] <blackgatonegro> they been updated and that
[12:37] <popolon> not a problem of font, but a problem of keyboard management
[12:38] <popolon> if ibus is used (I need it to type in chinese), compose key don't work (I need it to write in fr.wikipedia for french typography)
[12:39] <popolon> « » … etc…
[12:40] <popolon> oh, and a minor point but that could help other
[12:40] <Catbuntu> Oh popolon, you're a big editor at fr.wiki :)
[12:41] <Catbuntu> I work at es.wiki basically.
[12:41] <popolon> the libtxc is installed by default (for s3 texture compression)
[12:41] <popolon> but on intel hardware should be removed to use flightgear for exemple
[12:41] <popolon> else there will by funny bugs
[12:41] <blackgatonegro> popolon, you should try 12.04 again, maybe that was patched, or maybe there is a workaround.
[12:41] <popolon> there are still bugs without but far less
[12:42] <popolon> blackgatonegro, I was on 12.04 before, this is a problem with mesa driver
[12:42] <popolon> (again)
[12:42] <popolon> just have to remove this package and everything works about fine
[12:42] <popolon> but intel mesa driver is in developpement can't hope to much from hom
[12:42] <popolon> him
[12:43] <popolon> blackgatonegro, I only switched sunday, I know the difference
[12:43] <blackgatonegro> anyway, your 12.10 install is very screwed if you get so many errors, the advantage of LTS versions is that they usually last long enough for patches to be release and for people to find workarounds.
[12:43] <popolon> Catbuntu, thanks ^^, there is a popolon on es: that edited some years ago, but that's not me
[12:44] <Catbuntu> You could request a SUL.
[12:44] <popolon> blackgatonegro, the problem with Harddrive is not for me
[12:44] <popolon> I know, I getted for most language wikipedia
[12:44] <blackgatonegro> popolon, switch back
[12:44] <popolon> but I don't want to take another one account
[12:44] <Catbuntu> I think that if es:popolon is unactive they can drop it and SUL you, ask on the embassy.
[12:44] <popolon> ok, I probably will ask again in few time
[12:45] <Catbuntu> The es:popolon account is unactive since Feb. 2007.
[12:46] <blackgatonegro> popolon, update of versions screwing ubuntu installs is quite common, I had to format a disk when I upgraded to 12.04 and to a fresh install, I had tons of errors otherwise.
[12:46] <popolon> I know, I formated my disk (after backup) for install new one
[12:46] <popolon> but problems are minors
[12:46] <blackgatonegro> popolon, specially if you upgrade to a version that makes several key changes, like 12.10 does
[12:46] <popolon> and not the same on two computers
[12:47] <popolon> I globally like the change
[12:47] <popolon> less slow (or faster), so important on the ~7 years old computer of my wife
[12:47] <blackgatonegro> popolon, I don't think 90 GB of errors are minors, I never got that much errors in any ubuntu install
[12:47] <popolon> blackgatonegro, I don' have 90GB of error
[12:47] <popolon> that's another user
[12:48] <blackgatonegro> popolon, xubuntu 12.04 works okay in seven year old computers
[12:48] <popolon> (olbi)
[12:48] <blackgatonegro> popolon, sorry
[12:48] <popolon> no problem
[12:48] <blackgatonegro> I tend to get confused when multitasking
[12:49] <popolon> but javascript is really important and is really faster, else she will want to come back to windows xp to use privator softwares
[12:49] <blackgatonegro> And LTS have the advance of lasting long, so your hardware wont' be unsupported for years
[12:49] <blackgatonegro> popolon, there is something calling dual boot.
[12:49] <popolon> js is a great step for that
[12:49] <blackgatonegro> *called*
[12:49] <popolon> I prefer only free version ^^
[12:49] <popolon> I don't think she will like to reboot every time
[12:50] <popolon> so I only want to understand
[12:50] <blackgatonegro> popolon, you can change grub so it boots xp first
[12:50] <popolon> why par defaut, if system is installed in french, I can't get chinese system session, but if I make gnome crash
[12:50] <popolon> and how to add network share, and everything will be ok
[12:50] <popolon> I don't want xp anymore
[12:50] <blackgatonegro> wait, gnome? This is xubuntu
[12:50] <popolon> pfff
[12:51] <blackgatonegro> we dont use gnome here, just some gnome fonts
[12:51] <Catbuntu> XFCE!
[12:51] <popolon> I installed gnome
[12:51] <popolon> for testing
[12:51] <popolon> this resolved the xubuntu issue
[12:51] <popolon> I was able to log in chinese with gnome (classical works, but gnome. crash)
[12:51] <popolon> after the crash
[12:51] <popolon> xfce and xubuntu in chinese was possible ^^
[12:51] <popolon> I don't know why for at all
[12:52] <popolon> I want to reproduce the same thing on its computer, without installing gnome
[12:52] <popolon> on her computer
[12:52] <Catbuntu> Xubuntu 13.04 is good and at least it boots :)
[12:52] <blackgatonegro> maybe it used some libraries, XFCE has a bit of gnome poisoning
[12:53] <popolon> I didn't added packet
[12:53] <blackgatonegro> for running some programs
[12:53] <popolon> oops
[12:53] <popolon> between  the time I was unable and the time I was able  to use default chinese xfce
[12:53] <blackgatonegro> when you install a desktop environment, a lot of libraries get installed too
[12:54] <popolon> only launched not-classical gnome version in chinese
[12:54] <popolon> I believe even gnome-classical didn't swith to chinese
[12:55] <popolon> I believe instead there is something that change in configuration at first gnome destkop start
[12:55] <popolon> as I didn't installed anything
[12:55] <popolon> (as I said)
[12:58] <popolon> xfe4 goodies could be the solution for network, it contain gvfs ?
[13:02] <popolon> I noticed in some case that windows are automatically puted in halffullscreen tile
[13:02] <popolon> thet's a nice feature
[13:12] <popolon> there is the same thing on galaxy note 10.1 & Note II
[14:10] <bartzy> hello
[14:10] <bartzy> Using XFCE 4.10, can I make XFCE open new windows in the right (end) of the task bar, and not in the left (beginning)?
[14:43] <popolon> ok, understood for the sound, mixer plugin should not be used, but instead the sound icon in the indicators plugin
[14:43] <popolon> this one works fine
[15:08] <popolon> I noticed that french and english is in black, but chinese in light gray in language prefs
[15:08] <popolon> I remove english
[15:08] <popolon> as on my computer , this could perhaps resolve the bug ?
[15:09] <popolon> bartzy, right mouse button => move ?
[15:09] <popolon> oh, yes chinese is in black now !
[15:09] <popolon> ^^
[15:19] <boira> hi.. i'm new user
[15:34] <bartzy> popolon: That's for moving the window itself.
[15:35] <bartzy> popolon: I want the apps to show in the right of the taskbar when they are opening.
[15:35] <bartzy> Now they just open in random locations
[15:35] <bartzy> Between already opened applications
[15:38] <popolon> don't understand, I thing you spoke about "opened windows" applet
[15:42] <popolon> now, network share work, but is less than usable slow
[15:44] <holstein> bartzy: i might try different applets for showing runing tasks... til one works as you want. in theory, all of that functionality is customizable, but i have not tried changing that to the right side
[15:50] <bartzy> holstein: What applets are there ?
[15:50] <bartzy> I thought only one
[15:51] <holstein> bartzy: there are quite a few addable in the panel by default.. when i install a new OS, i typically add a panel or a user for testing.. i add *everything* and see whats what
[15:52] <holstein> bartzy: there are other panels... keep in mind everything is ultimately customizable.. so its more about how to best get what you want.. the issue i see for you is, listing the running apps on the left is preferred for likely a good reason
[16:10] <popolon> I can confirm than thunar give really strange values for directories in 12.10
[16:10] <popolon> when I right-click on a folder, it give the value of the folder containing this one :)
[16:11] <popolon> ok, no, that's only for free space
[17:07] <holstein> Konigsberg7: hello? you are coming and going quite a bit.. can i be of assistance?
[17:11] <baizon> to much pasted
[18:16] <phunyguy_work> wonderworld, I had to add a line to my script to update the links in nautilus if the connection failed or reconnected.  works so far so good!
[18:16] <phunyguy_work> been putting it through the ropes
[18:19] <phunyguy_work> xdg-user-dirs-update --force
[20:19] <marsje> I did a fresh install of xubuntu 12.10, but used an existing /home. Now sometimes X does not start and I don't get the login screen. What is wrong?
[20:22] <holstein> marsje: i would try creating a new user, or blowing out some/all of the existing config
[20:22] <baizon> marsje: you got an ati card?
[20:22] <holstein> could be, you wanted to reintall because there was an issue, and that issue was in the configuration files of the /home
[20:23] <marsje> baizon: intel core i3, no discrete gpu
[20:23] <baizon> ok
[20:23] <marsje> holstein: I reinstalled because I got a new disk (ssd) on which I wanted me OS
[20:24] <marsje> I don't even get the login screen, but it worked yesterday, so I don't understand..
[20:24] <marsje> I see console text but I do get a graphic mouse cursor
[20:24] <holstein> how did you move the OS to the drive?
[20:24] <marsje> installed from a xubuntu cd and mounted my old drive as /home
[20:25] <holstein> the old drive? or the old /home...
[20:25] <marsje> old /home
[20:25] <holstein> either way, i would take that user config out of the equation and test
[20:25] <marsje> is there any log file I could check?
[20:26] <holstein> probably.. but i typically just make a new user and test
[20:27] <marsje> I a lightdm log I see that it cannot find a file: /usr/share/lightdm/remote-sessions
[20:27] <marsje> in
[20:27] <marsje> holstein: but the thing is that it goes wrong *before* logging in
[20:28] <holstein> marsje: i was more interested in the word "sometimes" above
[20:28] <holstein> marsje: if you are sure its not a user config issue, then ignore me.. and the fact that you are using the /home from the other install
[20:29] <marsje> well, I had X problem befor ein my life and something it was some messed up file in ~
[20:29] <marsje> but since I don't log in, I gues it cannot be aything in ~
[20:30] <holstein> i thought you did login
[20:30] <marsje> nope
[20:30] <marsje> I don't get the login screen
[20:30] <holstein> sure, but you get something to login to. you can login and try starting x and see the errors
[20:30] <marsje> I can switch to another tty and login there and do stuff, but text only
[20:31] <marsje> no, I can't login in X
[20:31] <marsje> it hangs before showing the password screen
[20:32] <marsje> so I guess lightdm is the login manager that is supposed to show me the login screen?
[20:34]  * marsje is going to reboot for the hell of it
[20:46] <marsje> you were not supposed to see me leave... I accidently entered "sudo reboot" while I was still logged on the server, instead of the desktop machine that I wanted to reboot......
[20:48] <v1adimir> yeah, well :P
[20:48] <marsje> there goes my record uptime...
[20:49] <v1adimir> hehe
[20:49] <Unit193> marsje: Have you installed uprecords?
[20:49] <marsje> anyway, now lightdm/xubuntu boots normally...
[20:49] <marsje> Unit193: what is that?
[20:50] <Unit193> Keeps track of your uptime, and records them.
[20:50] <marsje> aaaah
[20:50] <marsje> I use http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=marsnix.nl
[20:52] <marsje> anyway, another weird thing with my new xubuntu install, besides the login problem, is the shutdown problem: I type "sudo reboot" on some tty, then I get the blue graphics xubuntu shutdown screen. Then my drives and fans turn off, but the shutdown screen stays on my screen
[20:52] <knome> Unit193, marsje: #xubuntu-offtopic
[20:52] <marsje> I have to shutdown then by holding down the power-button
[21:03] <holstein> marsje: so, the other problem is not an issue anymore?
[21:04] <holstein> marsje: i had to add a line to grub on my machine to get a "clean" shutdown
[21:05] <marsje> holstein: well, I thought the problem was fixed yesterday, but today it seemed it was not fixed, so it's fixed this one time :)
[21:05] <marsje> what did you add to grub?
[21:05] <holstein> marsje: i hardware specific line that is needed for my machine to shutdown cleanly.. but this is not a new machine for you, correct?
[21:06] <marsje> holstein: the machine is brand new actually
[21:07] <holstein> marsje: i was under the impression the hard drive was new in an older machine.. eitherway, i would just search for a bug or forum post
[21:07] <marsje> just the harddisk is "old"
[21:07] <marsje> the rest is new
[21:08] <marsje> the harddisk that contains the /home partition is old, the rest is on the new ssd
[21:47] <RemixAngel> xubuntu is fantastic, thank you so much!
[21:47] <marsje> when it works :)
[21:48] <RemixAngel> works fine.
[21:48] <RemixAngel> more like
[21:48] <RemixAngel> When YOU* can work it;p
[21:48] <marsje> on my new computer it boots is seconds
[22:49] <Riley88> hey guys is there away to check and make sure u have 3d acceleration on intel graphics i edited  my xorg.conf but im not sure it did it
[22:49] <Riley88>  I have hd 3000