/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/12/07/#kubuntu-devel.txt

JontheEchidnaI got in the steam beta :D03:32
ScottKCrap.03:39
ScottKWe need you bored so you'll do stuff.03:39
ronnoclol04:32
ronnoccongrats JontheEchidna you lucky SOB. I'm still waiting.04:32
ScottKcyphermox: If you get to looking at networkmanagement for Quantal  today, there's already another network management SRU in queue.  Please include that one in your upload as well.05:25
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shadeslayerScottK: Riddell should I go ahead and upload 4.9.90?08:46
shadeslayerto raring-proposed08:46
soee:)09:05
shadeslayeroh my09:20
shadeslayerScottK: HUPNP was very outdated09:20
shadeslayeruploaded to ppa:rohangarg/experimental09:20
shadeslayerhttps://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/experimental/+packages09:33
shadeslayerclickable link09:33
Riddellshadeslayer: I'm not sure how to find out what's already been uploaded09:45
shadeslayerRiddell: did you upload something?09:45
shadeslayeror did anyone upload anything?09:45
Riddellnot I09:45
RiddellScottK was talking about it09:46
shadeslayerah09:46
shadeslayerkde4libs is still at 4.9.8009:46
shadeslayerso I don't think he uploaded anything09:46
Riddellpresumably not then09:48
Riddellgo ahead with kde4libs if you like09:48
shadeslayerokay09:48
shadeslayerRiddell: I actually want to get hupnp in first09:48
shadeslayeror should we defer that for next upload?09:48
shadeslayerah well, can be fixed later09:49
Riddellwhat needs hupnp?09:49
Riddellis it a new hupnp?09:49
shadeslayerkde4libs09:49
shadeslayerand our hupnp is *old*09:49
RiddellI've not been packaging new bits so far09:49
RiddellI think that's a job for next week09:49
shadeslayerRiddell: https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/experimental/+packages09:50
shadeslayernew hupnp already packaged :)09:50
Riddellwell go for that then09:54
Riddellalthough I've not yet worked out what UPnP is and it sounds like that sort of thing that could have security issues09:54
shadeslayerRiddell: can you block migration from -proposed till we upload everything?09:59
RiddellI think ScottK already did?10:00
shadeslayeridk10:00
Riddellhe said so10:00
shadeslayerokay10:00
Riddellshadeslayer: what's your status on nepomuk-core?10:01
shadeslayerwell ... uh ..I went to sleep after talking to you guys10:01
shadeslayerRiddell: http://i.imgur.com/i8DW3.jpg10:02
Riddellever since Sean left Bond films have been pretty poor in their portrayal of Scotland10:03
Riddelland of course none of the other Bonds are as good since they didn't go to my school10:05
Riddell</edinburgh-snobbery>10:05
shadeslayerhaha10:07
shadeslayerRiddell: we should just upload it without ffmpeg for now, and figure out what to do next week10:09
valorieRiddell: when I landed in Edinburgh a few years ago on a trip with my dad and sister, the first kilted man I saw looked like a Bond-era Sean Connery10:15
valorieI almost walked up to him to start a conversation, just to hear that voice10:16
shadeslayerweird10:18
shadeslayeradding libpolkit-qt-1-dev to the build dep of pykde4 doesn't make it pick up polkit-qt10:19
Riddellshadeslayer: I seem to remember just dropping the polkit bindings at some point because they didn't work10:20
shadeslayeroh10:20
Riddellbut check the changelog10:21
shadeslayernothing in there10:22
shadeslayernothing bzr log as well10:26
Peace-hi :)10:30
* Peace- sudo apt-get upgrade on 13.04 alpha10:31
shadeslayerRiddell: I think we're good now10:32
shadeslayerthe status page is lagging, but libkmahjongg and kmahjongg are done10:32
Riddellhttp://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/kubuntu-ppa-build-status.html updated10:38
shadeslayercool!10:41
Riddellshadeslayer: pykde is looking for an old polkit, I've updated the ignore file in automation scripts10:59
shadeslayerit's looking for an *old* polkit? 0.o11:00
Riddellold polkit-qt yes11:01
shadeslayerthat .... makes no sense to me, but ok11:01
Riddellwell the bindings just haven't been updated for the new version11:02
shadeslayerah11:03
Riddellgroovy 4.9.90 installed and running11:18
Riddellshadeslayer: did you start uploading bits?11:18
shadeslayernope, do you want me to?11:18
shadeslayerI only uploaded kde4libs11:18
Riddellwell it's time to do it I recon so either you can or I can11:19
Riddellshadeslayer: and hupnp?11:19
shadeslayerI'd like to do it, I've never used the automation scripts11:19
shadeslayerRiddell: needs sponsoring11:19
Riddellshadeslayer: ok I'll take hupnp and kde-l10n and you do everything else?11:20
Riddellremember to do meta-kde too11:20
shadeslayersure11:20
shadeslayershould I upload meta-kde first?11:20
shadeslayerand the other thing, do the scripts allow you to remotely sign?11:21
Riddellyep11:21
Riddellyep upload meta-kde after kde4libs11:21
shadeslayercool11:22
RiddellI don't think kubuntu-archive-upload has remote signing in it you might need to add that11:22
shadeslayeroh11:22
shadeslayerI'll have a look11:22
shadeslayer*blink*11:32
shadeslayerhttp://paste.kde.org/621524/11:32
shadeslayeroh, possibly needs kubuntu-dev-tools11:34
Riddellyeah11:34
shadeslayerhmm .. doing this remotely has potential issues like bzr pushing11:35
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Peace-Riddell: :) rpi http://nowardev.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/rpiffmpeg.jpeg11:40
Riddellwhee11:40
shadeslayertry running KDE on it :P11:46
Peace-shadeslayer: on the rpi ?11:47
shadeslayeryep11:47
Peace-i could 11:47
Peace-i have runned kate and dolphin 11:47
Peace-and they worked fine 11:47
Peace-shadeslayer: :)) http://wstaw.org/m/2012/12/07/plasma-desktopUs2016.png11:49
shadeslayernah, I meant the proper plasma-desktop11:49
Peace-mm11:49
Peace-i need to install plasma-desktop11:49
Peace-306mb of stuff :P11:51
* jussi slaps Quintasan_11:56
yofelshadeslayer: I personally found HUPnP rather annoying when we tested it back then, but feel free to try it out11:58
shadeslayeroic11:59
Riddelljussi: that's very violent!12:00
jussiRiddell: I suppose... :P - but I didnt do it hard, it was more a friendly "come on you, do what you promised" :D12:01
shadeslayeryofel: what do you suggest I do wrt to kubuntu-archive-upload asking for auth via LP but lynks not supporting REFER12:04
shadeslayerthat's the only thing that's left to setup on the server12:04
shadeslayerI even copied ~/.launchpadlib to the server12:05
shadeslayerhttp://paste.kde.org/621536/12:07
yofelmy usual solution is to make the script use a credentials file that I made on my desktop, here that would mean adding credentials file support to at least 2 scripts12:07
shadeslayer:S12:07
yofeldoesn't w3m support referers?12:07
shadeslayerdunno12:08
yofelIIRC there was a way to authenticate to LP using a text browser. I just haven't tried it in a year or so12:08
shadeslayerlemme check12:08
* shadeslayer crosses fingers12:09
Riddellw3m works12:11
shadeslayeryay12:15
shadeslayeryeah12:15
yofeldoes someone by chance know how to completely wipe the python-keyring configuration? Every attempt to authenticate to LP without a credfile on my server ends with some json error from the keyring lately12:23
shadeslayerhmph .... it's stuck at downloading blinken12:29
Peace-shadeslayer: mmm that is plasma-desktopp on rpi via ssh lol http://wstaw.org/m/2012/12/07/plasma-desktopBL6685.png12:31
shadeslayerheh12:31
Peace-shadeslayer: btw panels are not from rpi but from my laptop12:31
shadeslayerokay12:32
Peace-lol it sucks 12:32
Peace-well is ssh12:32
shadeslayer0.o why is it checking out things at 8KBps12:34
shadeslayerW: blinken source: missing-license-paragraph-in-dep5-copyright gpl-2+ (paragraph at line 9)12:35
shadeslayerfixed12:36
shadeslayercantor is a bit screwed up12:37
yofelyou're uploading everything? I still see missing files on the status page. Nothing serious though12:38
shadeslayerfalse positives12:38
shadeslayeror not needed12:38
shadeslayer( in case of palapeli )12:38
yofelstill have to be put in not-installed the packages will be red on the page12:39
yofelput an 'or' in there somewhere12:39
shadeslayerI did12:39
yofelhm12:39
shadeslayeratleast I think I did12:39
yofelanyway, I'll give backporting to quantal a try when I get home or tomorrow12:40
shadeslayeryofel: they bumped up prices on buyvm btw12:42
shadeslayerit's 25 USD for a year now12:42
yofelfor kvm, ovpenvz is 15 from what I see12:43
shadeslayeroh yeah, for a moment I thought we had kvm12:44
yofelI wonder if KVM allows swapfiles, if yes that would be the better option12:45
shadeslayerit does12:45
shadeslayer( from what I was told earlier )12:45
shadeslayerthey're offering 50 GB's of additional space for 5 USD a month12:46
shadeslayerI wonder if they'll take 12 USD and give me 10 GB's for a year12:46
yofelthen taking the 2'nd KVM option with 30G and 256 ram is the better option12:47
shadeslayerbut that'll come out to 60 USD :P12:47
yofeldepends on what you need12:48
shadeslayerinstead, with the openVZ + 10GB space, I only pay 27 USD :)12:48
shadeslayeryeah, I already have a hefty build server :D12:48
* yofel works around the transmission crashes by restarting it daily12:48
yofelI really wouldn't mind full 256M 12:49
soeeshadeslayer, when can i expect beta2 for quantal ?12:52
soee:>12:52
shadeslayeryofel: I might upload it tonight12:52
shadeslayererm12:53
shadeslayersoee: ^12:53
shadeslayerassuming 4.9.90 uploads fine 12:53
shadeslayerfor raring12:53
soeeah nice, sadly im only on my laptop during weekend :/12:53
yofelthen I'll hold off on that. I'll help with fixing later12:53
soeeso i can try tu update next monday12:53
shadeslayerdoes the kubuntu-archive-upload script also bzr push?12:53
shadeslayeror do I have to write a script to do that :P12:53
yofelthat part is commented out, see bottom12:55
Riddellshadeslayer: I think I'll start throwing up the packages for quantal now12:55
shadeslayerok12:56
BluesKajHey all12:56
yofelit's better to do that seperately in case the script crashes12:56
shadeslayeruhhhhh12:57
shadeslayergood point12:58
shadeslayeryofel: accessing tarballs through the LP API is slow :(13:00
BluesKajIt looks like the 3.7 kernel definitely has seriuos HW recognition problems on my system.The install progress freezes about 2 secs in on both wireless and wired input devices,13:00
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shadeslayerso. fricking. slow13:02
shadeslayerok, not touching this thing for the next one hour13:04
shadeslayershould be done by then13:04
Riddellmeh usb-creator isn't working on raring "An error occurred while talking to the udisks service."13:05
shadeslayerheh13:05
Peace-Riddell: mm i have another error 13:06
Peace-Riddell: type error ky18()13:06
Peace-i mean on usb-creator-kde on raring13:06
shadeslayerRiddell: Sebastian Trueg requested that we package plasmate in Kubuntu, and they're discussing about a release soonish, so I've added that as a task13:06
shadeslayerthey're in kdereview atm13:07
Peace-it says even line 47 in module 13:07
Riddellwe've looked at it and since there's no release concluded it wasn't ready to package13:07
Riddellso he's got it the wrong way around13:07
shadeslayersure, but they're going to have a release soon13:08
shadeslayerand if they don't we can nudge them to release it13:08
Peace-Riddell: http://wklej.org/id/89034313:13
RiddellPeace-: that's even stranger13:14
RiddellPeace-: what verson of python-kde4 do you have?13:14
Peace-Riddell: i just upgrade on raring 13:15
Peace-but wait a moment13:15
Peace-Riddell: mm seems it is not there 13:16
Peace-Riddell: fresh and clean installation of  13.0413:16
Peace-i did only  update and upgrade13:17
Peace-i mean sudo apt-get update etc 13:17
Peace-system says i have python-kde4 installed13:18
Peace-Riddell: ii  python-kde4                          4:4.9.80-0ubuntu2                           i386         Python bindings for the KDE Development Platform13:20
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RiddellPeace-: wait until 4.9.90 arrives and test then I guess13:21
Peace-Riddell: ok :D no problem13:22
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Peace-Riddell: btw there is a iso for arm ? rpi ?13:24
Peace-:DDD13:24
Peace-i mean of kubunut13:25
RiddellPeace-: there's an image yes13:26
Riddellbut not for raspberry pi if that's what you're after13:26
Peace-ah13:26
Peace-tx :D13:27
jussibuttons on notifications are too small... :/13:31
dantti_laptopcyphermox: hi, you asked me to remind about the quantal update :P13:45
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Quintasanjussi: What did I do T_T13:49
shadeslayergrrr14:03
shadeslayerRiddell: kdegames haven't been uploaded to bzr14:04
shadeslayer:(14:04
shadeslayercausing : === Skipping kbounce, changelog invalid.14:04
shadeslayerwant to fix first?14:06
Riddelllet me see14:06
shadeslayerhttp://paste.kde.org/621638/14:07
Riddellkbounce is in bzr14:07
Riddellthere's a few I'm finding which aren't packaged14:07
shadeslayerbut isn't updated to 4.9.90 maybe?14:07
Riddellyeah it might need the version number fixed14:07
shadeslayerdafuq http://paste.kde.org/621650/14:08
RiddellI have no idea what's gone on there14:09
shadeslayerme neither14:09
shadeslayerwill fix manually14:09
shadeslayerW: kdegraphics-thumbnailers source: missing-field-in-dep5-copyright copyright (paragraph at line 9)14:11
shadeslayerRiddell: could you fix versioning in kdegames?14:13
Riddellshadeslayer: mm ok14:13
shadeslayerkdesdk has already been released? 0.o14:16
shadeslayerfun : http://paste.kde.org/621662/14:18
Riddellshadeslayer: no kdesdk hasn't, just a changelog issue if it says it has14:20
shadeslayerokay14:20
yofelshadeslayer: that trace is shopped off. (Or did it really crash there?)14:20
yofel*chopped14:20
shadeslayeryofel: it really did crash there : http://paste.kde.org/621668/14:21
yofelthat's better. I guess some exception handling for parsing error would be nice...14:21
yofel*errors14:22
shadeslayermmmm14:22
shadeslayerwhat do I do now @_@14:24
Riddellshadeslayer: done14:25
shadeslayerthx :)14:25
yofelfix the problem in kmahjongg and retry. Preferably after fixing the script14:27
shadeslayerheh14:27
shadeslayerbut I'm not sure what the problem is tbh :P14:27
yofelOH, the script fails when you have less than 2 changelog entries14:29
shadeslayerah14:29
shadeslayerhmm14:29
shadeslayerthat's weird14:29
yofelnot really, it parses all versions out of the changelog and compares the last 214:30
yofelif there's less than 2 then versions[1] is null14:30
shadeslayerI see14:30
yofelI'm not quite sure why it checks the 2nd entry though14:32
shadeslayerthat's what I'm thinking as well14:33
yofeldebfx: ^14:33
shadeslayerwell .. .this is weird14:41
shadeslayerhttp://paste.kde.org/621680 < says W: kdegraphics-thumbnailers source: missing-field-in-dep5-copyright copyright (paragraph at line 9)14:41
shadeslayeroh14:42
shadeslayertypo14:42
shadeslayermaybe I can get away with just looking ath the last version? :P14:45
BluesKajno luck with the mini.iso either , it freezes as well ...tried the 12.10 alternate install and it starts and appears to work ok , I stopped it at the partitioning phase , so the cdrom isn't to blame 14:45
BluesKajI guess 13 is no longer my lucky number :)14:46
shadeslayerhmph15:11
shadeslayeryofel: there's no way to count the number of objects in a list?15:12
shadeslayerin python15:12
yofellen(<list>) should do it?15:12
shadeslayerah k15:12
* yofel is guessing right now15:12
yofelyeah, len15:13
yofelheh, with all the post-4.9.4 fixes we'll now get 4.9.5 after all15:14
shadeslayeryofel: http://paste.kde.org/621686/15:16
shadeslayerjust a workaround for now15:16
yofelplease do check if the version is correct...15:16
shadeslayerah yes15:16
shadeslayerwill add check15:16
yofelotherwise fine15:16
shadeslayerohkay15:25
shadeslayerRiddell: you already uploaded quantal ? :P15:26
Riddellshadeslayer: yeah15:29
shadeslayerheh15:31
shadeslayeryofel: we can just call : if not version in versions15:31
shadeslayerwould automatically check15:31
yofelindeed (as long it's not supposed to only check in the first 2)15:31
yofelbut I can't think of a reason why that would be the case15:32
shadeslayerI'm getting this now : === Skipping bomber, changelog invalid.15:33
shadeslayer:|15:33
shadeslayerand if I do : if version not in versions[0] that gives me : === Package differs from PPA, skipping bomber.15:34
yofeldoes it differ? I think the script doesn't support bzr-only changes that aren't in the PPA15:35
* Peace- snowing15:35
yofelhere too ^^15:36
Peace-yofel: where ? 15:36
yofelStuttgart, southwest germany15:36
shadeslayerafaik it should be the same15:36
Peace-italy verona yofel :P15:36
shadeslayerbut lets check15:36
yofelthinking about that check: it looks if the first entry is wrong, and if the 2nd entry matches and then barfs15:37
yofelso another way to resolve this would be:15:37
shadeslayerheh15:37
yofelhm, no15:37
shadeslayeraha15:41
shadeslayeryofel: http://paste.kde.org/621704/15:42
shadeslayerthat's why15:42
shadeslayersomeone needs to upload all the kdegames again from bzr :P15:42
yofelfun15:42
yofeldoes it really need to be libkdegames >= 4.9.90?15:43
yofelor does libkdegames not have a symbols file?15:43
yofelconsidering how savy we are on SRU updates, adding a symbols file to libkdegames and dropping the >= would be easier15:44
yofelhm. or we update that manually and leave it out from the auto-replace magic in initial-upload15:44
shadeslayerwe do have symbols there15:45
shadeslayerhttp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/libkdegames/view/head:/debian/libkdegamesprivate1.symbols15:46
shadeslayerhttp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/libkdegames/view/head:/debian/libkdegames6.symbols as well15:46
shadeslayerRiddell: would you do the honours? since you probably have all of that scripted :P15:47
yofelgood. Then it would probably make more sense to use the ABI manager than a strict version dependency15:47
yofelsame goes for the other libs actually, it was annoying to change the deps for 4.9.415:47
Riddellshadeslayer: for which?15:48
shadeslayerkdegames15:48
shadeslayerRiddell: http://paste.kde.org/621704/15:48
shadeslayerthe packages in the PPA are different from the ones in bzr15:48
Riddelldidn't I just do all those?15:49
shadeslayerwell ... you uploaded the stuff to bzr right?15:50
shadeslayernow the packaging is completely different :P15:50
Riddellbzr is libkdegames-dev (>= 4:4.9.90)15:51
Riddellthat's what should be uploaded to the archive15:51
shadeslayerthe PPA isn't15:51
shadeslayercausing issues with the script15:51
yofelshadeslayer: if you're bored, copy the diff-check from initia-upload over. It would be nice if one could override this15:52
shadeslayerheh15:52
yofelon a per-case basis15:52
shadeslayeryofel: looking15:55
yofelit's line 215ff15:56
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shadeslayerhmm15:59
shadeslayeryofel: I don't see how we can override this16:06
shadeslayerunless I'm missing something16:06
yofelin kubuntu-archive-upload line 153ff integrate the user-interaction part from kubuntu-initial-upload16:08
yofelat the end it currently calls 'continue' there which skips the upload, so let the user decide whether it should upload or not on that point16:09
shadeslayerright16:09
shadeslayerbut that's my question, how do you make bzr-buildpackage use the packaging from bzr instead of the one from the PPA16:09
yofelhuh? the whole point of bzr-buildpackage is to build from bzr.16:10
yofelNow I'm missing something...16:10
shadeslayerah, nvm16:10
shadeslayerunderstood16:10
shadeslayeryofel: http://paste.kde.org/621716/16:15
shadeslayererm, ignore line 316:15
yofelit would actually be nice if it would really show the diff, now you don't know what the diff is16:17
yofeli.e. add:16:17
yofel            p = subprocess.Popen(["less"], stdin=subprocess.PIPE)16:17
yofel            p.communicate("Package: %s\n\n=== diffstat ===\n\n%s\n\n=== diff ===\n\n%s" % (package, diffstat, diff))16:17
yofelusing the right objects16:17
shadeslayerhmm16:17
shadeslayerthere's         p = subprocess.Popen(["diffstat", "-l", "-p1"], stdin=subprocess.PIPE, stdout=subprocess.PIPE)16:18
shadeslayeroh oh16:19
* shadeslayer tries something16:19
yofeljust look at what initial-upload does. it already works there16:19
shadeslayerright16:19
shadeslayerwohoo, we have diff stat functionality16:25
dantti_laptopcyphermox: we just found out it didn't worked, I think it was something left from the cinnamon session, but lamarque is not online now to help debugin..16:26
Quintasankimpanel broken as usual16:28
shadeslayerQuintasan: fix it fix it16:30
Quintasanhow about no?16:30
shadeslayerfix it x 10016:30
Quintasanhow about I have no idea why are we even working with ibus16:30
shadeslayerQuintasan: I'm getting you business cards16:30
Quintasanあああああ16:30
shadeslayerdoes that not mean a thing to you!16:30
QuintasanOkay, so the default ibus-setup works16:30
Quintasanbut getting kimpanel to work16:31
Quintasanis like16:31
Quintasanurgh16:31
QuintasanI believe the package itself is broken16:32
Quintasannot sure what is broken16:32
shadeslayerohahaha16:39
shadeslayerhttp://www.fsf.org/blogs/rms/ubuntu-spyware-what-to-do16:39
Quintasanhmmm16:39
QuintasanScottK: Is kimpanel supposed to work normally in quantal?16:43
shadeslayeryofel: I'm not sure, but any ideas what this is : http://paste.kde.org/621740/16:43
yofeldiff probably doesn't like broken symlinks16:44
shadeslayerhmm16:44
shadeslayerI've removed kde-workspace, looking at it manually16:44
* yofel makes his way home - bbl16:46
shadeslayercya16:49
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shadeslayergod damnit16:56
shadeslayer    if len(diffstatLines) > 1 or diffstatLines[0] != "debian/changelog":16:56
shadeslayerIndexError: list index out of range16:56
shadeslayer\o/16:56
shadeslayerthank you python16:56
QuintasanI'd like to believe i got kimpanel working17:10
QuintasanScottK: Keep your fingers crossed as I might have got it working in Quantal17:13
Quintasan...17:22
Quintasanshadeslayer: any idea why postinst and postrm scripts are getting ignored?17:23
shadeslayeruhhhh17:23
shadeslayerQuintasan: are they being ignored or do they crash?17:23
shadeslayerand iirc dpkg can only run sh scripts, not bash scripts17:24
QuintasanARGH17:24
QuintasanY U DON'T WORK KIMPANEL17:25
Quintasanあああ17:25
Quintasanhmm17:25
QuintasanHMMMMMMMMMM17:25
Quintasanthis is retarded17:25
shadeslayerand maybe they work17:26
Quintasanmmkay17:26
shadeslayerjust don't do the things that you want17:26
Quintasanthis shit is sh17:27
Quintasanhttp://paste.kde.org/62176417:27
shadeslayerhmm looks ok17:28
Quintasanwhatever17:28
QuintasanI'm not sure we need this17:28
Quintasanlemme try it other way17:29
Quintasanshadeslayer: What I dislike about rekonq it is it's inability to rembember which pages I had opened17:33
Quintasanshadeslayer: I have Uni activity17:34
Quintasanand at desktop 2 I want to have rekonq open with wolfram alpha17:34
Quintasanand on desktop 3 I want another window to be opened with tangorin.com17:34
shadeslayerWhat I dislike about rekonq is that it has insane code in places17:34
shadeslayerand my fixes get overwritten by broken code17:34
Quintasanyet when I restart the activity the rekonq on desktop 2 has some random webpage I opened in third window on the other activity17:35
Quintasanand rekonq on desktop 3 has no tabs open at all17:35
shadeslayeryeah iirc that's some bug17:35
shadeslayerit's on bugzilla17:35
shadeslayerwaiting to be fixed17:36
QuintasanI believe nonkde apps won't be able to handle activities properly17:36
QuintasanWhich renders it useless T_T17:36
shadeslayerdafuq http://wstaw.org/m/2012/12/07/plasma-desktoplm2140.png17:37
QuintasanHRRRRr17:38
Quintasanokay17:39
QuintasanI have absloutely no idea how to fix this in packaging17:40
Quintasanshadeslayer: Say, I have the kimpanel added17:40
shadeslayerhmm executing the lib manually works17:40
shadeslayerso something weird here17:40
Quintasanibus is not started so shortcuts to enable ims don't work17:40
Quintasanwhen you invoke ibus-deamon you get the shortcuts alongside GTK gui17:41
Quintasani.e this http://i.imgur.com/eGRmA.png17:41
shadeslayerokay17:42
Quintasanthe kimpanel looks like http://i.imgur.com/kGIJX.png17:42
shadeslayerQuintasan: no point in showing me, I wouldn't know to fix it :P17:43
Quintasanwait17:43
shadeslayerokay17:43
QuintasanI know how to get this shit working but not how packaging wise17:43
Quintasannow if you kill the ibus-deamon17:43
Quintasanand invoke17:44
Quintasanibus-daemon -dx --panel=/usr/lib/kde4/libexec/kimpanel-ibus-panel17:44
Quintasanhttp://i.imgur.com/9qlJi.png17:44
Quintasantadam17:44
Quintasanばか!17:46
Quintasanso it work17:46
Quintasans17:46
Quintasanhmm17:46
Quintasanso in other words17:47
QuintasanWe need to invoke it right after plasma-widget-kimpanel is installed and everytime after reboot occurs17:47
shadeslayeruhhh17:48
QuintasanThat way kimpanel WILL work but the initial configuration of input methods is still left to user17:48
Quintasanbecause17:48
Quintasanthe ibus input methods list is empty after install17:48
Quintasanhttp://i.imgur.com/7RG65.png17:48
Quintasanlike this17:48
shadeslayerI see17:49
Quintasanand you need to add the input method your self17:49
Quintasanhttp://i.imgur.com/FkNwg.png17:49
shadeslayerQuintasan: so write a upstart script?17:49
shadeslayerand then call it post-inst17:49
Quintasanin my case it was anthy since I'm interested in japanese input17:49
Quintasanthere was this guy on our ML who apparently fixed it17:51
yofelhttp://paste.kde.org/621782 - 3) ok, but the others don't look right17:51
* yofel puts updating meta on todo list17:51
Quintasanbut what he was doing was installing kimpanel-ibus-panel.desktop: http://paste.kde.org/621788 -> /etc/xdg/autostart/17:51
Quintasanthat didn't work17:52
Quintasanhe also copied debian/xinput/ibus-kde:http://paste.kde.org/621794 but I have NO idea how that works17:52
Quintasandebian/xinput/ibus-kde -> /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/17:54
shadeslayerwhaaa17:54
shadeslayeryofel: meta? 17:55
shadeslayeroh17:55
yofelwe'll need refreshed meta packages17:55
shadeslayeras in kubuntu-desktop?17:55
shadeslayerright17:55
yofelno, kde-meta. At least *I* use kde-full17:55
shadeslayerhehe :P17:55
yofeland that does not install full kde currently17:55
shadeslayerright17:55
* yofel fixes kajongg in the meanwhile17:55
shadeslayeryofel: btw do you know why we checked for debian/changelog in line 153?17:57
yofelbrb, dinner17:57
shadeslayerk17:57
shadeslayeroh hmm17:57
shadeslayerentirely possible that first line is not changelog but some other thing17:58
shadeslayerlike cantor.install17:58
shadeslayeror sth17:58
shadeslayeryofel: can you also fix E: kshisen source: version-substvar-for-external-package kshisen -> kdegames-mahjongg-data18:07
shadeslayerI've skipped it for now18:07
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yofelsure18:09
yofelo.O18:09
yofelyeah, the check is weird18:09
shadeslayerW: ktouch source: syntax-error-in-dep5-copyright line 22: Cannot parse line "Copyright 2004 by Marc Heyvaert (marc_heyvaert AT yahoo DOT com)"18:09
shadeslayerjust don't fix it right now18:10
shadeslayermight screw up bzr or sth18:10
shadeslayerit's at libkcddb18:10
yofelI already fixed kajongg18:10
shadeslayerdrat18:11
yofeluploaded right now, so maybe it'll be accepted fast enough18:11
shadeslayerW: libkdeedu source: missing-field-in-dep5-copyright copyright (paragraph at line 6)18:11
yofelunless that doesn't matter18:11
shadeslayerdunno18:11
shadeslayerI think kajongg was done about 20 minutes ago18:11
shadeslayerthis script needs to be multi threaded :P18:12
shadeslayerbut then there's no such thing as multiple threads in python18:13
yofelwell, there is a thread module. But I've never used it. Probably something based on the C one18:15
shadeslayerW: perlqt source: missing-field-in-dep5-copyright copyright (paragraph at line 5)18:20
shadeslayeroh god, now I get to sign everything18:24
shadeslayeryay18:24
shadeslayerbzr pushing btw18:35
shadeslayeryofel: Now in kajongg18:36
shadeslayerbzr: ERROR: These branches have diverged.  See "bzr help diverged-branches" for more information.                                                                                                         18:36
yofeloh, you're pushing changes on your side and I already pushed mine18:39
shadeslayerright18:39
shadeslayerokay that should be it18:43
shadeslayerall branches pushed18:43
shadeslayerstill waiting for signing to complete18:43
shadeslayershould I skip marble for now?18:54
shadeslayeror upload it anyway?18:54
shadeslayersame for kdesdk18:54
shadeslayer( both broke ABI )18:54
yofelif there's no solution planned upstream use the ABI manager and be done19:00
shadeslayerall the new games get rejected19:01
shadeslayerbecause I don't have upload rights19:01
shadeslayerokay, I just uploaded at the wrong time I think, only 3 builders for amd64 and 1 for i38619:06
shadeslayereverything else is disabled19:06
yofelthat doesn't look good considering it's friday19:08
shadeslayer:P19:08
yofelwell ok, it's still work hours in the US19:08
shadeslayerthe buildd's are on a holiday, even they need a break19:09
shadeslayerall done19:20
jussiRiddell: whatever happened to my shirt?19:22
Quintasanshadeslayer: on side note, how will the business cards look like? 19:56
ScottKQuintasan: Yes.21:08
ScottKRiddell: To clarify from the backscroll  - I did put a block in place to keep kde4libs (and thus the rest of 4.9.90) from transitioning before we are ready.21:09
rbelemping danimo 21:15
Quintasanshadeslayer: on side note, how will the business cards look like? 21:21
danimorbelem: pong21:31
ScottKapachelogger: I timed how long it took to make the touchpad configuration thingy open up on a Windows machine today and it was 8 seconds (or about that, I got bored and distracted waiting).  Even with the time to start the Python interpreter, we do a pretty good job in comparison.21:32
yofelshadeslayer: did you ever work out the symbol issues in marble etc before uploading?21:45
yofellibmarblewidget15.symbols is still from 4.9.80 from what I see21:46
Riddellyofel: it's ABI breakage21:48
RiddellI e-mailed their mailing list but they haven't said anything21:48
yofelsure, but if we put it in the archive in the current state, we need to rebuild the rdeps or things WILL break21:49
yofelhm, seems he didn't upload, good21:52
ScottKIsn't this kind of situation why we have the Debian ABI manager?21:52
yofelsure, it's just that with some packages still broken, some uploaded, and bzr showing pretty much all as uploaded it's a bit hard to figure out what a package's situation is21:53
RiddellScottK: I like to give upstream a chance to do the right thing and revert or bump the soname21:53
ScottKOK.21:53
yofelRiddell: me too - that's what the release embargo is for, but now it's just holding us up. If they fix it we can remove the abi manager later21:54
ScottKMaybe use ~abi022:00
yofelwould work as long as we have a guarantee that upstream will fix it.22:05
yofelI'll work on the backports for now, it's not an issue there22:06
apacheloggerScottK: I wonder if windows is the thing we should measure against ^^22:56
apacheloggerbut yeah, windows is of course inferior in a lot of regards22:56
ScottKapachelogger: Just a data point.23:01
ScottKActually after several hours on a  Windows 7 machine today my entire Kubuntu experience feels lightning fast.23:02
apachelogger^^23:02
apacheloggerwindows 7 is quite bad in the performance department23:02
apacheloggerwindows 8 improved a lot there IMHO23:02
ScottKDunno.  This wasn't a situation where I had a choice.23:03
yofelapachelogger: does the speed increase of windows 8 compensate the increased time it takes to get to things?23:07
apacheloggerfud alert :P23:08
yofelI had to use windows 8 for a few hours a few days ago. Sure you get used to it, but it feels kinda clumsy on a notebook23:08
apacheloggerit's like krunner really23:08
valoriefor the record, we have no spyware in our kubuntu flavor, correct?23:53
valoriere: shadeslayer's link23:54
valoriehttp://www.fsf.org/blogs/rms/ubuntu-spyware-what-to-do23:54
apacheloggerlol23:54
yofelwe certainly don't have that shopping lens in kubuntu, so unless Amarok sends info about you when you search for songs on amazon we should be fine23:57

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