[05:53] <gnomefreak> anyohne know if libbamf0 is needed or can i remove it without any problems?
[06:09] <IdleOne>  Package: libbamf0
[06:09] <IdleOne>  Priority: optional
[06:10] <IdleOne> I think that means you can remove it
[06:11] <gnomefreak> it has to do with unity and gtk2. did you read the desciption?
[06:11] <gnomefreak> that is what bothers me
[06:12] <gnomefreak> if you look under unity it is also optional
[06:13] <gnomefreak> doing an upgrade this is what i get (not dist-upgrade:
[06:13] <gnomefreak> The following packages have been kept back: bamfdaemon compiz compiz-core compiz-gnome compiz-plugins-default libbamf3-0 libcompizconfig0 libdecoration0 libunity-core-6.0-5 unity unity-common unity-services
[06:20] <IdleOne> I really have no idea :/
[06:33] <gnomefreak> IdleOne: are you on 13.04?
[06:33] <IdleOne> no, running 12.10
[06:34] <gnomefreak> k
[06:34] <IdleOne> 13.04 was giving me many problems with my nvidia
[06:34] <IdleOne> I did a clean install of 12.10 about 3 weeks ago I guess
[06:35] <gnomefreak> nvidia seems to be having issues for a few people. but for once i am happier running ati
[12:56] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[13:14] <BluesKaj> It looks like the 3.7 kernel definitely has serious HW recognition problems on my system.The install progress freezes about 2 secs in . This is with both wireless and wired input devices,
[14:26] <voltagex> Hi, 13.04 installer hangs in HyperV with the hv_storvsc driver being the culprit: http://i.imgur.com/KQILK.jpg
[14:51] <BluesKaj> Kubuntu 13.04 / 3.7 kernel just will not work on my hardware , no matter which install method I try ...the alternate isn't available so I'm out of luck there too
[14:54] <bjsnider> submitteth a buggeth
[14:59] <BluesKaj> no point , can't give specific details
[14:59] <BluesKaj> the live cd freezes ...what good is that ?
[15:01] <BluesKaj> the mini.iso does the same
[15:02] <yofel> try filing a bug against the kernel from a working system so at least the hardware information is in the bug and use that to report that raring doesn't work. Maybe the kernel team has an idea
[15:06] <BluesKaj> yofel, there's a very similar bug already filed , so I added my name to the "this bug also affects me" list , https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1081245
[15:08] <yofel> hm, that's an installer bug and doesn't talk about and hardware freezes. Are you sure that it's the hardware that's the problem?
[15:08] <yofel> as for alternate: does the server image install?
[15:10] <BluesKaj> yofel , I'm convinced that the problem is the 3.7 kernel , because I had the 3.5  running fine , then after the 3.7 kernel upgrade the system wouldn't boot , so i had to revert to the 3.5 ... I've since wiped the partition anticpating a fix in the 3.7
[15:11] <BluesKaj> yofel, I haven't tried the server version
[15:11] <yofel> you could try a 3.7 mainline build on your current system and check if that's broken too
[15:15] <bjsnider> BluesKaj, you can actually talk to the kernel team about this. they're in #ubuntu-kernel
[15:26] <BluesKaj> ok bjsnider I reported the problem there ...we'll see if there's any helpful response ...it's pretty early in the game for thw 3.7 kernel so i won't hold my breath
[15:26] <bjsnider> oh come on, let's have some optimism and whatnot
[15:26] <bjsnider> especially the whatnot
[15:30] <BluesKaj> bjsnider, I've been testing kubuntu for 7 yrs and I've never seen it totally freeze at the outset like this
[15:31] <bjsnider> i don't think this has anything to do with kde, as miserable an experience has kde is
[15:33] <BluesKaj> kde is a wonderful desktop , gnome /unity isn't my style
[23:46] <voltagex> is it possible to get access to older daily builds of raring?