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ammar_hi00:39
ammar_i have a problem can any body help me???00:40
Azelphur?ask00:40
penguin42 -help is normally best for that - what's up?00:40
Azelphur!ask | ammar_00:40
lubotu3ammar_: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience00:40
AzelphurI really need to build factoids into my client so I don't continually get confused by different triggers :P00:41
ammar_i have wireless usb card (lb-link) i want to use it with ubuntu but it doesnt work i installed the driver from the cd that came with the adapter put that didnt work00:42
Azelphurammar_: the usb stick came with Linux drivers?00:42
ammar_yes00:43
Azelphurthat's cool00:43
Azelphurhmm, dunno then. Maybe contact support for that product00:43
ammar_when i write lsusb i get this00:43
ammar_     1.       Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub    2.       Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0bda:8176 Realtek Semiconductor Corp.    3.       Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub00:43
penguin42stop!00:44
penguin42please don't paste lots00:44
ammar_sorry00:44
penguin42ammar_: Use a pastebin, or I guess there is probably a lsusb line for just your device?00:44
ammar_i guiss you mean this00:45
ammar_Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0bda:8176 Realtek Semiconductor Corp.00:45
penguin42which version of Ubuntu?00:46
ammar_i don not know00:46
penguin42ammar_: Do you have a cog icon in the top right hand corner?00:47
ammar_what is cog????00:47
penguin42like a spiky circle00:48
ammar_no00:48
ammar_my ubuntu came with some program called reaver00:48
penguin42ok, what does your screen look like - do you have a strip of buttons down the left hand side?00:48
ammar_yes00:50
penguin42and across the top what do you have?00:50
ammar_i am using ubuntu 10.04 lts00:51
penguin42ah ok00:51
ammar_i fiound it00:51
penguin42ammar_: So that's pretty old, it wouldn't surprise me if one of the newer versions had support00:51
ammar_does it matter if its old??00:52
penguin42ammar_: Newer Ubuntu has support for newer hardware built in00:52
ammar_so i have to get a newer one00:53
penguin42that would be my suggestion00:54
ammar_thank you but i dont think i can because i live in syria00:55
penguin42ah, from what I hear you are lucky to have any internet at all00:55
ammar_thats right00:56
penguin42ammar_: There may be people who have the driver for that chip working on older Uuntu's00:56
ammar_linux is not popular os ih here no body uses it me my self use windows but i like to learn more about linux00:57
ammar_penguin42 thank you my friend01:01
AzelphurAnyone have any cool tricks for storing a lot of cables?01:17
Azelphurand organising in some sane manner01:17
* penguin42 has mine in a large box in a big knotted pile01:18
penguin42Azelphur: Velcro is a good thing01:18
Azelphurvelcro ties around the cables?01:19
penguin42nod, for larger cables01:19
Azelphurfun01:19
penguin42you can get some premade velcro ties, you can also get some rolls of double sided velcro that you just cut up, that's cheaper01:19
AzelphurI see01:21
AivarasIf hdparam says that my ssd read speed is 6GB/s (cached) and 200 MB/s (buffered) everything is ok and ssd works fine in CD-rom place?03:07
DaraelAivaras: Rather a delayed response, but: although many of #ubuntu's denizens are technical people, they tend not to be up in the wee hours of the morning.  #ubuntu is active pretty much 24/7, though.05:53
Darael...That first #ubuntu should have been #ubuntu-uk, in case that wasn't clear.05:53
Aivarasyeah, point taken. :)05:54
DaraelClearly some of us are occasionally, or we wouldn't be having this exchange :P05:55
AzelphurOT but UK related question, anyone know how I'd fix this? https://dl.dropbox.com/u/3832397/Photos/2012/December/2012-12-07-072842_503x658_scrot.png07:35
AzelphurI want them to deliver to my "front" door ideally07:35
MartijnVdSAzelphur: offer delivery people beer/food to do it right? ;)07:43
Azelphurhaha, that's one way07:43
AzelphurI was wondering if there was some official mechanism to get it changed07:44
AzelphurI have Amazon shipping me something soon, wonder where they'll put it :P07:44
MartijnVdSthey come up to my door, even though my letter box is downstairs07:44
MartijnVdSbut that's PostNL :)07:44
Azelphurah cool07:44
Azelphurstage 1: get letterbox, step 2: bribe postman07:44
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RadiumCathi :)08:54
andylockranmorning all08:57
jacobwahoy hoy09:24
* jacobw pokes solarcloud 09:24
MartijnVdSlots of clouds here09:27
JamesTaitHappy Friday, everyone! :-D09:27
TheOpenSourcerermorning all09:29
MooDoohello all09:35
andylockranhappy friday :)09:36
popeymorning TheOpenSourcerer :)09:36
TheOpenSourcererlo popey09:37
* popey had to get the kids to get me water and paracetamol this morning09:37
TheOpenSourcererI did the school run this morning. 1st person I saw was Katie Dodson. She asked how my head was and if there was anywhere in farnham I hadn't been yesterday.09:38
popeyhaha09:39
MooDooyou guys been party animals again?09:39
popeyi am not completely clear on how I got home09:40
popeyi think i got on a train at farnham and may have slept past woking09:40
popeyooh, i have a graze on my hand09:40
TheOpenSourcererha ha09:40
MartijnVdSpopey: Did you try to eat oranges from the trees in the street as well? :)09:41
popeywhere do you think we live!?09:41
MartijnVdSpopey: it's what Jono did in Seville ;)09:42
popeyoh yes09:42
s-foxmorning folks09:42
MooDoomorning s-fox09:43
s-foxhi MooDoo09:45
s-foxare you well ?09:45
popeyTheOpenSourcerer, that chinese food was yummy09:46
AlanBellmorning09:46
AlanBellthat was quite some lunch09:47
s-foxmaybe i am being super unobservant but has the youtube layout changed?09:50
TheOpenSourcererMornign AlanBell09:51
TheOpenSourcererMrs TheOpenSourcerer will deliver me to the office just in time for the Office party :-)09:52
AlanBelljolly good, wake me up when you get here09:53
MartijnVdSs-fox: youtube has been changing a bit lately09:54
AlanBelldo we need a G+ community?09:56
MartijnVdSwho doesn't?09:56
christelbless09:58
s-foxthanks MartijnVdS , i wasn't completely sure...10:00
TheOpenSourcererGosh - popey remember the chap with the moustache in The Mulberry?10:01
TheOpenSourcererHe's found me on Linkedin already!10:01
christelhave you been chatting up young men again TheOpenSourcerer10:02
TheOpenSourcerernot me. Twas popey10:02
popeyhah10:03
popeydid you give him your card?10:03
brobostigongood morning everyone,10:06
s-foxHi brobostigon10:07
brobostigonhi s-fox10:07
TheOpenSourcererpopey: No.10:09
popeyblimey10:09
TheOpenSourcererI don't even remember telling him my name10:09
TheOpenSourcererOther than "Al"10:09
kvarleyMy parents are looking for a colour laser printer that works with Ubuntu, any ideas? They currently have a Canon which is absolutely awful, prints one page then stops working all together.10:10
christel"betty"10:10
TheOpenSourcererkvarley: I have been very happy with my Xerox 6130n10:10
TheOpenSourcererIt's an old module but works fine.10:10
MartijnVdSkvarley: HP ones work well10:11
* MartijnVdS has a CP1515n10:11
popeyneat!10:11
popeyhttp://www.office.xerox.com/printers/color-printers/phaser-6130/enus.html10:12
popey"We no longer sell this product, but please check out its replacement. > "10:12
popeyhttp://www.office.xerox.com/printers/color-printers/phaser-6500/enus.html10:12
MartijnVdSset phasers to stun!10:12
popey3.3/5 reviews10:12
kvarleyThanks, I was considering HP as well MartijnVdS. They're the only brand I've had no problems with, always been plug and play with Ubuntu :)10:13
MartijnVdSkvarley: Brother is good as well, make sure it supports their clone of Postscript10:13
* TheOpenSourcerer wonders why he's feeling rather fragile today.10:18
brobostigonhangover central <-------   , also.10:20
TheOpenSourcererI blame Alan10:20
brobostigonwhich one ?10:21
TheOpenSourcererAny and all10:21
brobostigonok,10:21
brobostigon:)10:21
TheOpenSourcererI have just discovered my phone took loads of pictures of popey yesterday. I have no recollection of doing so whatsoever.10:23
popeyerk10:24
brobostigonlol10:24
TheOpenSourcererI feel a G+ album post coming up.10:24
popeyi took a photo of the road it seems10:26
popeyand the wall in the toilet10:26
brobostigonagain, lol.10:27
TheOpenSourcererDid you have your calendar popey?10:32
popeyyes10:33
TheOpenSourcererLovely isn't it :-)10:33
popeyoh, hang on10:33
popeythought you meant my google calendar10:33
popeyno, is that what it is?10:33
popeynot opened it10:33
popeyoh, nice10:35
Azelphurmoved house didn't bring my desk, had to improvise somewhere to put it temporarily :P https://www.dropbox.com/s/ai1i3cdyxeo0bpb/2012-12-06%2005.44.07.jpg?m10:40
MartijnVdShey, I have a desk like that :)10:41
Azelphurhehe10:41
MartijnVdSbut not in my kitchen10:41
Azelphurkitchen is totally the best place for it10:42
MartijnVdSTEA!10:42
AzelphurxD10:42
pndemcenough irc windows azelphur :P10:43
Azelphurpndemc: nah, need moar10:43
pndemcanyone know of a program like htop for monitoring live dl/ul stats?10:44
Azelphurpndemc: nethogs10:44
MartijnVdSiptraf10:51
pndemcAzelphur, thanks, exactly what I was looking for10:55
Azelphurpndemc: :)10:55
* czajkowski tickles gord 11:06
christelczajkowski!11:16
czajkowskichristel!11:16
czajkowskihey chicken11:16
christelwhat are you up to pretty girl? are you all settled in your new house? :)11:17
czajkowskinarp heading down tonight in the office today11:17
christelaha!11:17
czajkowskiall the stuff I dumped on the bed a week ago11:17
czajkowskineed to unpack11:17
christelhaha11:17
czajkowskiand make it all settled in11:17
christel:)11:18
BigRedSI want to run an irc daemon for 3-10 users. Any recommendations?11:18
* Azelphur shops around for a TV \o/11:19
MartijnVdSBigRedS: if anyone knows, it's christel :)11:19
BigRedSMartijnVdS: yeah, though she knows what to use for gajillions of users :)11:20
MartijnVdSBigRedS: imperial or metric gajillions? :)11:21
christeli presume you dont need a lot of fancy "extras" for a tiny network so i'd probably go with ratbox :)11:24
BigRedSchristel: yeah, that's basically it - I want something relatively idiot-proof and I don't need to run more than one node or do any management11:32
BigRedSI can directly punch misbehaving users...11:32
BigRedSthanks!11:32
christel:)11:33
TheOpenSourcererNow I'm feeling vaguely back to normal - I have started thinking about Curry...11:34
brobostigonyummy11:35
BigRedSdidn't they go bust?11:38
BigRedSHah, from ratbox config : /* REMOVE ME.  The following line checks you've been reading. */11:54
BigRedShavent_read_conf = yes;11:54
davmor2MooDoo: Boo!!!!!!11:55
davmor2Morning all11:55
MooDoodavmor2: arrrrrgh12:03
davmor2MooDoo: muhahahahahaha I'm just that evil ;)12:04
MooDoodavmor2: i know12:04
davmor2AlanBell: there is an app called xeoma that might take your fancy with your funky webcam :)12:21
davmor2AlanBell: I have no idea how much it is12:22
michael__dasilva167212:25
andylockranphpls12:51
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mungojerryBigRedS, does it need to be irc? isn't there some zeroconfig service that allows this without irc13:12
BigRedSmungojerry: Not necessarily, it seemed the simplest option, though13:14
BigRedSalso, we're not always on the same local net, so it can't rely on zeroconf13:15
mungojerryrasp pi would be useful use case for a mini irc server :)13:15
BigRedSwe all work at hosting companies - the server and all the clients are 1u boxes13:15
BigRedSwhen running screened cat5 cable, anyone know what you're supposed to do with the drain wire?14:03
MartijnVdSBigRedS: connect to the metal outer part of the connector14:03
MartijnVdSBigRedS: or, if you use all-plastic connectors.. you got the wrong connectors and you just snip it off, and your screen will be useless ;)14:03
BigRedShaha, cool. ta! I guess that if the connectors are plastic there's no help by attaching one end to ground or anything?14:04
dwatkinswow, Sony are full of fail for how difficult it is to register a TV to use with Lovefilm.14:04
MartijnVdSBigRedS: not really, I guess14:05
MartijnVdSdwatkins: Samsung is just as bad (with several Dutch on-line film things)14:05
BigRedSMartijnVdS: cool. I'm several people down a chain of questions, want to find the fullest answer I can14:06
BigRedSso I'll disregard the conflicting google results, and go with the consistent IRC one :)14:06
MartijnVdSBigRedS: The "all metal" wire is ground, which should be connected to the metal bit of the connector, which should connect to "Ground" on one (or more?) devices14:06
BigRedSyeah, so I was wondering if there's no metal on the connector whether it'd be worth just attaching it to the (presumably grounded) case at one end14:07
MartijnVdSBigRedS: http://store.freenet-antennas.com.au/product_info.php?products_id=46814:07
dwatkinsMartijnVdS: I guess I shouldn't be surprised14:07
MartijnVdSBigRedS: you'd use those14:07
BigRedSI recall earth loops being a problem in grounding both ends, but can't really remember. There's good reason I don't go anywhere near hardware :)14:07
bigcalmGood afternoon peeps :)14:11
MartijnVdSBigRedS: earth loops.. ugh :)14:12
MartijnVdSdon't remind me14:12
BigRedShahaha14:12
MartijnVdS:(15:30
popey:( ?15:30
MartijnVdSOnly World of Goo works in my Steam beta15:30
MartijnVdSVVVVVV has no executable15:31
MartijnVdSSpaceCheck is b0rken in interesting ways15:31
MartijnVdSSpacechem*15:31
MartijnVdSand TF2 shows a black screen (audio works though)15:31
* MartijnVdS installs TF2 Beta, maybe that works better15:33
MartijnVdS(9.4MB/s \o/)15:34
popeyMartijnVdS, http://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/12qs6z/steam_for_linux_its_here_deb_in_the_link/c6xf19p15:34
MartijnVdSpopey: I blame my Intel graphics15:36
popeyahh15:36
BigRedSI get the black screen when I play TF2 on Intel15:37
BigRedSor try to play15:37
MartijnVdS9.7MB/second15:37
BigRedSWhich is a bit of a shame - my laptop was the thing I was hoping to get Windows off15:37
MartijnVdS♥ Fibre15:37
MartijnVdSBigRedS: I run it on my desktop, but I don't want an ATi/NVidia card15:38
MartijnVdSdirecthex: how did you get TF2 to work on Intel graphics?15:44
MartijnVdSdirecthex: (as you mention in that Reddit post)15:44
dogmatic69lol, Lord Sugar vs Donald Trump http://storify.com/loveandgarbage/modern-culture-in-microcosm-a-sociological-survey16:14
BigRedSI'm still not sure I believe Trump's account is real16:17
directhexMartijnVdS, i just ran it. do you have the s2tc package installed?16:21
directhexBigRedS, it's verified real, he's just a buffoon16:21
MartijnVdSdirecthex: I have libtxc-dxtn-s2tc0:amd64 and libtxc-dxtn-s2tc0:i38616:22
BigRedSdirecthex: yeah, it just still doesn't seem believable16:23
directhexMartijnVdS, which intel chip?16:24
MartijnVdS[    18.959] (--) intel(0): Integrated Graphics Chipset: Intel(R) Clarkdale16:25
directhexhuh, clarkdale is pretty modern16:26
MartijnVdSit's an i3-530 - so it's the "Intel® HD Graphics" before they got numbers16:26
directhexfails in game or before then (e.g. main menu)?16:27
MartijnVdSdirecthex: Before - I don't even get the "man with a valve on his face" thing (only the sound)16:27
MartijnVdSI just get a black screen after clicking 'Play' in steam16:28
MartijnVdSmaybe if I reboot.. uptime is almost a month again 8-)16:28
andybrineanyone here from the uk and have problems playing cotent on 4od?16:32
IdleOneyou probably need to install flashplugin-installer16:35
IdleOneI can't test, not in the UK16:35
MartijnVdSdirecthex: it's the driver I think.. Big Picture mode also crashes16:38
MartijnVdSs/also//16:38
directhexdid you enable the intel driver backport repo?16:38
MartijnVdSdirecthex: I'm on 12.10 -- do I have to?16:38
directhexhm, probably not. probably16:39
MartijnVdSwhere can I find it?16:39
directhexi'm on my desktop right now, can't check16:39
directhex  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates16:39
MartijnVdShmmm, libva updateses16:41
andybrinethanks everyone16:47
andybrinei thought this irc was idel for a moment16:48
andybrinei have flashplugin-installer already installed16:49
andybrineflash works ok16:49
andybrineits just programs on 4od which is weird16:50
MartijnVdSIs there an error, or does it just "not work"16:50
andybrineyeah there is an error one sec ill just get it16:52
andybrineit just comes up with "A digital rights error has occured, please see help section"16:55
andybrinead the help section just shows flash player16:55
andybrineit is vague i know16:56
MartijnVdSDRM errors.. is your clock set correctly?16:57
andybrineyou mean just the standard clock?16:59
andybrinethat is working fine16:59
MartijnVdSandybrine: is it set to automatically sync time with the internet?17:00
MartijnVdSandybrine: (click on the clock -> settings)17:00
andybrineyes, it is at the moment17:01
andybrinedoes that need to be turned off?17:02
MartijnVdSno, that's good :)17:02
MartijnVdSthen I don't know why it's not working17:02
MartijnVdSsorry17:02
andybrineok, no worries17:03
andybrinethanks17:03
penguin42cool, my PCIe->(Parallel & 2xserial) card has arrived from China17:12
MartijnVdSpenguin42: how.. old-fashioned :)17:12
penguin42MartijnVdS: I prefer to think of it as traditional17:12
MartijnVdSquaint ;)17:12
penguin42odd aspect ratio card, it's depth is defined by being just long enough to get to a 1xPCIe socket, and it's height is defined by the size of a Parallel port connector17:13
MartijnVdSit's probably only one chip?17:16
penguin423, one main one and a little maxim on each serial port17:16
MartijnVdSseparate UARTs?! really?17:17
penguin42no, they're line drivers; 3v-5v17:18
penguin42http://www.ti.com/product/max324317:18
MartijnVdSbut serial is -15V - +15V17:18
MartijnVdSoh wait17:19
MartijnVdS"Somewhere between -3 and -15 to somewhere between +3 and +15"17:19
penguin42MartijnVdS: I think the main chip (Moschip MCS9901CV-cc) does PCIe to parallel, serial, a USB and an ISA if you wire it all up17:19
MartijnVdSpenguin42: noice17:19
penguin42there is a theory that it works with Linux, but the datasheet seems to be online if not17:20
MartijnVdS"Your next Album Day delivery is Friday 07 December, 2012. As a non-UK member, delivery will take a few days longer, depending on postal efficiency."17:21
MartijnVdS\o/ thealbumclub.com17:21
penguin42well, there is a CD with a tar for Linux with a cryptic set of source17:22
MartijnVdSpenguin42: 2.2-kernel-ish?17:23
penguin42MartijnVdS: No, 2.6.3117:23
MartijnVdSoh wow17:23
MartijnVdSpenguin42: my experiences are .[D. different :)17:24
penguin42MartijnVdS: Commented code with GPL headers intact17:26
MartijnVdSWow.17:27
penguin42(We'll find out if it works later!)17:27
celestehhello, i'm on ubuntu studio and using jack with supercollider. i want to record my desktop with audio to make a little youtube movie.  what should i use to do the recording and how? recodmydesktop crashes when i try to run it17:57
MartijnVdSpopey: knows about screencasting software17:58
bigcalmpopey: your blog could do with a search :D18:00
bigcalmhttp://popey.com/blog/2009/08/25/getting-back-into-screencasting/18:01
bigcalmSurprised that it's a 3yo entry. I thought you'd blogged about it a bit more since18:02
* MartijnVdS geeft kinky een Ubuntu-Cd18:03
MartijnVdShmm18:03
MartijnVdSwwe :)18:03
MartijnVdSbigcalm: he has.. there's other software now18:03
MartijnVdSKazam!18:04
MartijnVdSthat's the name18:04
bigcalmPow!18:04
bigcalmZap!18:04
bigcalmBiff!18:04
* dwatkins imagines bigcalm as Batfink18:08
bigcalmWith my wings of steel18:09
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bigcalmDid he have a lisp, or was that the side-kick?18:10
bigcalmOf course, I could be thinking of Count Duckular18:10
dwatkinsor Danger Mouse18:20
dwatkinsI don't think Penfold has a lisp, though.18:20
MartijnVdS((((lisp))))18:34
dwatkinsLots of Incredibly Silly Parentheses18:41
penguin42well the parallel port works with a hack18:51
MartijnVdS\o/18:53
jacobw(i(hate(lists)))18:55
czajkowskialoha18:57
MartijnVdS\o czajkowski18:57
jacobwquack quack quack quaacccckk!19:15
einonmandypiper! How the devil are you?19:33
* andypiper blinks - forgot the IRC app was running...19:34
andypiperI am well, sir - just back from Le Web19:34
einonmexcellent, good to hear19:34
daubersy20:32
daubersOops20:32
solarcloud_3scrnWhat happened to Popey ?22:06
solarcloud_3scrnHE Made moderator https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/10729900762497226609422:07
xnoxwell the current top post needs moderation.23:15
solarcloud_3scrnxnox, Which post are refering to ? A link to post here from that webpage is easily done :-)23:17
xnoxhttps://plus.google.com/u/0/105285234860592935043/posts/Py9QpQ1uDEh is offensive content.23:18
solarcloud_3scrnnot really.23:18
xnoxit's not what ubuntu community stands for.23:20
xnoxsolarcloud_3scrn: http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/conduct * Be considerate.23:20
xnoxBeing considered to all humans, including bill gates.23:21
szymon_ghi23:21
solarcloud_3scrnI'm just stoked about all the communitie on there ..23:21
solarcloud_3scrnit's like building a company.23:22
solarcloud_3scrnxnox ... this project may actually save the desktop :)23:23
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