[19:17] <raevol> is jono's website down?
[19:25] <dragon> yes, jono is down.
[19:36] <raevol> daw
[21:53] <raevol> whoever the hell decides to change all the default directories for everything when packaging stuff should AT LEAST document it somewhere
[21:53] <raevol> ugh
[22:30] <akk> Document changes? What a quaint notion.
[22:45] <grantbow> Interesting. Google Nexus 7 is $199 1280x800 1G RAM 16 GB flash w/ tegra 3 quad core processor. http://www.google.com/nexus/7/specs/
[22:45] <darthrobot> Title: [Nexus 7 Tech Specs]
[22:46] <grantbow> Lenovo Ideatab is $159 of best buy 1024x900 512 MB RAM 8GB flash http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Lenovo+-+IdeaTab+A2107+Tablet+with+8GB+Memory+-+Black/6668354.p?id=1218771804144&skuId=6668354&st=lenovo%20g585&cp=1&lp=6
[22:46] <darthrobot> Title: [Lenovo - IdeaTab A2107 Tablet with 8GB Memory - Black - A2107 - 59346799]
[22:47] <grantbow> manufacturers try to mix up RAM and flash now
[22:48] <akk> Good price. Funny that they don't even mention the size -- that seems critical for a tablet.
[22:48] <grantbow> for comparison: zareason zatab is $299 1024x768 1G RAM 16 G flash http://zareason.com/shop/zatab.html
[22:48] <darthrobot> Title: [Open & Hackable Android tablet]
[22:49] <grantbow> Allwinner A10 SoC not a quad core
[22:49] <grantbow> err, $349, ouch
[22:50] <grantbow> I do like mine and I've had it awhile
[22:59] <akk> I like supporting za, but sometimes it's hard to justify financially.
[22:59] <akk> It's sad that it always costs more to buy the free OS version of something.
[23:09] <grantbow> darn M$FT related kickbacks
[23:11] <akk> yeah
[23:12] <pleia2> both android and ubuntu are free OSes ;)
[23:12] <pleia2> Google's able to get away with it by selling at a loss to get their content out there (Amazon and B&N do the same with their e-readers)
[23:13] <pleia2> ZA needs to make a living on the actual hardware
[23:15] <pleia2> and actually... zatab comes with android too
[23:21] <akk> za lacks the economies of scale that the big manufacturers have.
[23:27] <grantbow> I like my zatab as does everyone who sees it.