/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/12/07/#ubuntu-us-mi.txt

greg-gpeople who pre-flush toilets/urinals confuse and annoy me00:26
rick_h_lol00:28
brouschSpiders00:30
brouschThey might be lurking in there00:30
snap-lgreg-g: Fate Core ( a very cool Fudge-variant) just hit their stretch goal to make the released rules CC-licensed.04:03
snap-lThey're shooting for just CC-BY so it doesn't enforce share-alike04:03
greg-gsnap-l: cool04:59
rick_h_morning11:50
brouschyes11:57
brouschDamn google and their new community stuff11:57
brouschNow I have pages and communities to tend11:57
rick_h_ugh, this new pricing for google apps for your domwin is going to suck11:59
brouschUt oh, I haven't seen that12:01
rick_h_couple of posts on HN about google apps stopping free signups and only one user on the 'free' tier12:02
brouschI don't think I use it for anything right now12:08
brouschWork already pays12:08
rick_h_Ah, I use it for my wife and I and our personal stuff, few other times when I needed an email setup for a domain I owned12:09
brouschIn the past I used it for GRPUG12:13
brouschouttie12:17
snap-lGOod morning12:42
rick_h_morn12:42
snap-lrick_h_: How much for the domains pricing?12:42
snap-lapps for domains, rather12:43
rick_h_$50/user/yr12:43
rick_h_I just need to close down some I don't really use12:44
snap-lThat's not outrageous, but it's $100 you probably didn't want to spend. :)12:44
rick_h_like I think I setup one for lococast12:44
snap-lAh, didn't know that12:44
rick_h_right, I'll spend #100 for my wife and I, but I setup an account for my brother he never logged into12:44
rick_h_and I setup for a few other domains so they had an email addy and forarded them to my personal email12:44
snap-lYeah, those are cheaper to just have mail forwarders12:44
snap-lI think most domain registrars will do that.12:45
rick_h_yea12:45
rick_h_it's all good, just going to have to clean house before I get a $400 bill from google12:45
brouschIt looks like dumped all of mine except work about 6 months ago, so I'm all set12:45
rick_h_well :P to you12:45
brouschmuahahaha12:46
brouschHm, I think you can use a Google+ Page to create a community12:48
brouschsnap-l: When you get a few minutes, see if you can switch to the ubuntu-mi page and then create the ubuntu-mi community as the page12:50
rick_h_so wtf does a 'community' get me?12:50
rick_h_I'm being spammed all day with it12:50
rick_h_there, created12:51
rick_h_heh, it needs some love from snap-l though to get the image and such12:51
brouschSo for an existing group, it looks like you should use the page to create the community12:52
snap-lI can't create communities from a page12:52
rick_h_I did, on the left side12:52
rick_h_there's a new 'community' thing next to photos, etc12:52
brouschThe creator is the owner. If you make it as your personal profile you become th owner12:52
brouschAh, but you can promote members to owners, good12:53
brouschSo since I am an owner of the ubuntu-mi page, I can now edit the ubuntu-mi community rick_h_ created12:55
snap-lI created one too.12:55
snap-lThat's weird, it didn't send me an invite12:58
snap-lOK< I deleted RIck's community, and substituted my own. ;)12:59
rick_h_oh fine then13:00
snap-lYeah, I suck13:00
brouschHeh.I was trying to add the logo to rick_h_'s and it was erroring13:01
_stink_rick_h_: according to http://googleenterprise.blogspot.com/ , existing users of google apps won't see a change.  did you see anything else that makes you think you'll get a bill suddenly?13:26
* brousch quickly signs up his 20 domains13:26
rick_h__stink_: ah no, I just assumed end of year I'd have to straighten up for next year13:29
rick_h__stink_: you doc reading person you :P13:29
_stink_hehe13:29
_stink_well you got me spooked, of course13:30
_stink_imagining telling my mom to abandon her email address, yikes13:30
rick_h_heh, well you'd just host it elsewhere and migrate the email over13:31
rick_h_the address wouldn't change13:31
_stink_well, she has like two others13:32
_stink_so i nthis case13:32
_stink_i *would* tell her to abandon it.13:32
rick_h_lol13:32
snap-lI swear, 6 ping pong balls, and Pixel would be golden13:49
rick_h_snap-l: lol that reads strange on twitter13:52
rick_h_careful with that auto blog->twitter feed13:53
snap-lYeah, I think I might turn that off13:53
snap-lit works better on identi.ca13:53
brouschI used to do that, but the automated posts looked stupid so I stopped13:55
snap-ljcastro_: Dude, if Metallica became a cover band, I would be OK with that14:07
jcastro_heh14:07
* snap-l is listening to Garage Inc.14:07
jcastro_yeah!14:07
jcastro_mercyful fate coverband14:07
jcastro_I would be ok with that14:07
snap-lSecond disc, though14:07
jcastro_http://www.invisibleoranges.com/2011/01/metallica-and-justice-for-all-just-the-bass/14:09
jcastro_fyi found the isolated bass lines14:09
snap-lAh, cool14:09
jjesseman i'm soo not looking forward to flying w/ completely blocked sinuses14:27
jjessethe change in pressure might cause my head to explode14:27
rick_h_ugh, last time I did that it took 2 days for my head to decompress. That was the most painful ear popping ever14:28
rick_h_...but I'm sure it'll be peachy for you...my bad :P14:28
jjesselol14:29
snap-lheh14:31
jcastro_snap-l: man, sadness is listening to the proper tracks, knowing I've been playing horrible transcriptions of what is really the rhythmb guitar for these songs.14:37
jcastro_now I listen to the real tracks and the real bass line is totally different14:37
snap-ljcastro_: Yeah, I've had the same thing with ghost notes and Neil Peart's drum tracks14:58
snap-lWatching him play has been rather revealing.14:58
snap-land those are good recordings. ;)14:58
jrwrenouch https://www.fsf.org/blogs/rms/ubuntu-spyware-what-to-do15:10
brouschrick_h_ is tracking my web searches?!15:12
jrwrenyup. he is a spy. Harding, Rick harding, 007.15:13
rick_h_yep...I know what you...oh right you don't use unity/dash so nope15:13
jrwrenthat is an octal literal15:13
rick_h_003 thank you very much. Much better number than 00715:13
jrwrendash? like /usr/bin/dash?15:13
rick_h_no, unity dash15:13
jrwrenerr, /bin/dash rather. ok, whew. everything in the default posix shell would be pretty bad.15:14
rick_h_that thingy that comes up when you press Mod4 for those default unity users15:14
rick_h_:P15:14
brouschKubuntu will keep your prying eyes out of my fetishes15:14
rick_h_that's next. Hook into your locate/find commands15:14
jrwrenmod4? is that the ubuntu key on my system76?15:14
rick_h_should be15:14
rick_h_meta, mod4, 'windows key'15:14
jrwrenmeta is different though, because ESC is usually meta.15:14
jrwrenand ALT if you have the right TERM15:15
rick_h_well, 2 our of 3 ain't bad15:15
jrwrenI think someone submitted a patch for find that makes it search inet15:15
jrwreni do question motive behind the inet search integration15:35
jrwrenalthough I certainly don't agree with rms.15:35
jrwrenOh Snap http://sfy.co/bBpu #storify15:40
brouschI like jcastro_'s reply15:42
jrwrenwhich?15:43
jrwrensnap-l: ever listen to Balanescu Quartet ?15:43
brouschOn the link you just posted15:44
snap-lYeah, I love the "OMG, you have a sliver in your hand. Yeah, how's that wood plank up your ass doing?"15:44
snap-ljrwren: Not yet.15:44
jrwrenOSX doesn't send my info anywhere. i can confirm this by sniffing packets.15:46
jrwrenin this sense, OSX respects my privacy more than ubuntu ootb.15:46
snap-lIt just doesn't respect your privacy once you start using it. ;)15:49
snap-lBut yes, point taken.15:50
jrwreni don't see how it does not respect my privacy once I start using it.15:50
jrwrenNow once I login to icloud... yup, all my data uploaded to them.15:50
snap-liTunes recommendations15:50
jrwrenthat assumes I use itunes.15:50
jrwrenand that is also an excellent point.15:51
snap-lIf you're on a Mac and not using iTunes, you have more willpower than most15:51
jrwreni only use itunes ot sync my phone.15:51
jrwreni use squeeze to listen to music.15:51
jrwrenI'm listening via squeeze right now :)15:51
snap-lMe too15:51
jrwrenreally great Leonard Cohen track.15:51
snap-land publishing to Last.fm15:51
jrwrensame15:51
snap-lI hate it when I discount an album just because the description doesn't say "metal"18:09
snap-lhttp://magnatune.com/artists/breaker18:09
snap-lI should know better18:09
snap-lReminds me a lot of Die So Fluid18:10
snap-lwith a little more grunge18:10
rick_h_wow http://techcrunch.com/2012/12/07/dropbox-guido-van-rossum-python/18:53
jrwrennice18:53
brouschwhoa18:55
widoxyou gotta wonder what he's going to say about their existing code when he joins Dropbox18:57
brouschMakes me a bit more nervous about using Google App Engine18:58
rick_h_he got sick of you asking him for newer python on GAE and just quit18:58
brouschheh18:58
brouschthey do move slow18:59
brouschI actually don't have anything running on GAE right now18:59
brouschDjango pulled me away18:59
jrwrenhe has seen dropboxes code.19:01
rick_h_yea, I'm guessing he's gotten to see whatever he wants before signing19:02
jrwrenno no.19:09
jrwreni mean years ago.19:09
jrwrenhe helped dropbox with some of their obfuscation stuff19:09
jrwrenbecause yes, db is python, but they also don't want to just ship .py or .pyc19:09
rick_h_ah19:12
jcastro_yeah it like downloads itself on installation19:14
jcastro_and it's python but it's not like you can browse .dropbox-dist and check out the client19:15
jrwrenwould be sweet to use pypy to prejit x86 instructions and then ship that19:48
jcastro_haham hey greg-g, around?21:17
greg-gjcastro_: kinda, calling att now21:45
jcastro_http://i.imgur.com/5Ufm9.jpg21:56
jcastro_greg-g: I couldn't help it but think of AA21:56
greg-ghah, nice22:01
jrwreni'm over here fucking raging at autotools.22:26
jrwreni can feel my blood pressure rising.22:27

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