[00:01] <Erin>  WeThePeople  some times youll need to use sudo kill -9 pid from the command line though
[00:01] <CarlOSx86> basically I would like to use compiz on xubuntu 12.10 x86
[00:01] <Erin> WeThePeople, aka nuke it from orbi
[00:01] <WeThePeople> erin, for what apps
[00:01] <Crash> Crash Travisty
[00:01] <Erin> WeThePeople, ones that xkill won't kill. Like ones that are completely frozen
[00:01] <nibbler__> http://graphics.stanford.edu/~monzy/KillDashNine.mp3
[00:02] <Guest97716> lol whats up
[00:02] <ActionParsnip> CarlOSx86: install it, then press ALT+F2 and run:  compiz --replace
[00:02] <paul__> hey guys .. is it possible to configure a nginx reverse proxy with proxypass to a https webserver?
[00:02] <CarlOSx86> thank you so much
[00:03] <ActionParsnip> CarlOSx86: no worries dude, if all is well then add the comand as a startup command :)
[00:05] <gustav__> nibbler__: That's weak.
[00:06] <nibbler__> gustav__: is it? neway i like
[00:07] <gustav__> nibbler__: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYTYmOCHcNo
[00:08] <nibbler__> gustav__: ok, slighly more gangsta ;-) http://www.thedogsbollocks.co.uk/gigflapping/gigflapping.mp3 s'nice aswell
[00:11] <winux> hello.. i recently upgraded to ubuntu 12.10.. but lsb_release -a shows Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS .. any ideas what could be causing this
[00:11] <winux> ?
[00:11] <nahuel_> i need the dir of the spanish room, thanks
[00:12] <k1l> winux: how did you upgrade?
[00:12] <nibbler__> !es | nahuel_
[00:12] <k1l> winux: can you pastbin a "cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:12] <gustav__> nibbler__: It's happier.
[00:13] <winux> sure
[00:14] <winux> k1l:  i did a do-release upgrade
[00:14] <winux> k1l: http://pastebin.com/aDmK988q
[00:15] <k1l> winux: yep, that looks like a 12.04
[00:15] <winux> No new release found when doing do-release upgrade
[00:15] <k1l> maybe you just did a 11.10 to 12.04 upgrade, since it was a 11.10 before
[00:16] <k1l> winux: you need to change the release-prompt to normal from LTS
[00:16] <winux> in /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades?
[00:17] <k1l> yes
[00:17] <winux> great that worked
[00:17] <winux> thanks
[00:17] <k1l> np
[00:26] <gustav__> What's an easy solution to host an e-mail resend thing? I don't want to mess with qmail or postfix... Just send mails coming in to @bork.org to @arrak.com.
[00:27] <mablae> HEELLP!
[00:27] <mablae> My Ubuntu has problems to boot...
[00:27] <ActionParsnip> mablae: wassup
[00:27] <mablae> I cannot start gnome-shell
[00:27] <mablae> It crashes after login
[00:27] <RealOptyz> I have a NTFS drive. Id like every one to be able to read and write. heres the line in fstab. What am i doing wrong?
[00:27] <RealOptyz> UUID=2D433B0D2ECE0AEE /media/GO ntfs-3g rw,errors=remount-ro,auto,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=002 0 0
[00:27] <mablae> The same with Unity Desktop
[00:28] <mablae> I dont know how to fix
[00:28] <TT1> try ctrl+alt+F7
[00:28] <mablae> I got no errors at all, it just brings me back to login
[00:29] <ActionParsnip> mablae: if you make a new user and log in as that, is it ok?
[00:29] <mablae> nope
[00:29] <mablae> i installed xmacro and everything went crazy
[00:30] <mablae> I removed it and rebooted and now get these errors
[00:30] <mablae> My ~/.xsession_erros shows many erros - which one is relevant?
[00:30] <pgib> gustav__, most domain registrars offer domain parking and email forwarding
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> mablae: what is the output of:   lsb_release -sc
[00:31] <mablae> mom
[00:31] <mablae> quantal
[00:32] <mablae> I have nvidia graphics...
[00:33] <mablae> The chain is lightdm -> gdm -> compiz -> gnome-shell , right?
[00:33] <mablae> so lightdm brings me to loginscreen
[00:33] <mablae> I get a first window of gnome-shell (alarms) then it shuts down
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> mablae: why lightdm -> gdm
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> mablae: you will only have one active DM
[00:34] <mablae> It was a question ;)
[00:34] <mablae> I know there is a chain.. and unity AND gnome are failing...
[00:34] <mablae> I just try to get the error
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> mablae: lightdm loads the session you choose and the apps run. Compiz + Gnome + Unity will load in the default Quantal session
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> mablae: if you install xfce4, can you log in to the new xfce session ok?
[00:35] <mablae> Ah, dunno this session thing
[00:35] <goddard> i have installed different desktop enviornments and it seems like when ever you uninstall them it leaves a whole bunch of crap.  How can I clean it up?
[00:35] <mablae> Okay let me try apt-get install xfce4 ?
[00:36] <ActionParsnip> goddard: which did you add?
[00:36] <grkblood> for some reason the video on my screen is doing a slight skip every 2 seconds right now and it has to be from a recent update. is anyone having this issue>
[00:36] <ActionParsnip> grkblood: what app are you viewing the video in?
[00:36] <grkblood> vlc and then i tried xine, same thing.
[00:37] <grkblood> its a very minute stutter
[00:37] <gustav__> pgib: Some do, yes.
[00:37] <grkblood> subtle would be the word to use i guess
[00:37] <goddard> ActionParsnip: i added kde and gnome and my boot time has gotten pretty bad because of it.  I see it starts the kde display manager then stops it then starts gnomes then stops it and it also has blank services it starts so it says "starting            "  then "stopping            "
[00:38] <goddard> i dont have kde installed any more I belive
[00:39] <bradlee> huzzah
[00:39]  * crimsonmane uses KDE
[00:39] <Rob1337> Hi
[00:39] <Rob1337> I recently installed Ubuntu 12.10 on my laptop (Gateway NV53a). When using wireless internet, my connection is much slower than usual. My connection speed is normally around 20mb/s, but when using wi-fi in Ubuntu it's about 2 mb/s or less. My wireless card is an Atheros  AR9287 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express). How do I fix this?
[00:39] <mablae> ActionParsnip: I installed xfce4 , but same error... It starts... but then crashes..
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> goddard: sudo apt-get --purge remove `dpkg -l | grep kde | awk {'print $2'}`; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove
[00:40] <paul__> hey, is it possible to configure a nginx reverse proxy with proxypass to a https webserver?
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> goddard: which desktop did you start with?
[00:41] <ahoneybun> Rob1337, go into Software Updater, go to Edit then Sources and go to Additional Drivers and see if there is a non-oss driver for your card
[00:41] <goddard> ActionParsnip: i started with 11.10 and unity
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> Rob1337: try:  echo "options ath9k nohwcrypt=1
[00:41] <goddard> ActionParsnip: im on 12.10 and unity at the moment
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> Rob1337: try:  echo "options ath9k nohwcrypt=1 " | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/ath9k.conf
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> Rob1337: ignore the first command, it won't work
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> goddard: unity doesn't replace gnome
[00:42] <ahoneybun> unity is over gnome
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> goddard: when you use Unity, it runs on top of the gnome desktop
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> goddard: unity is a shell, and replaces gnome-panel from the old releases
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> Rob1337: reboot to test
[00:44] <Rob1337> does the | indicate two separate lines? (I am  a linux noob)
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> Rob1337: its all one command
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> Rob1337: the | is a pipe and it makes the text from one command be the input for the next
[00:46] <Rob1337> k, i'll be back in a minute. rebooting.
[00:47] <mablae> ActionParsnip: Do you have another idea?
[00:47] <goddard> ActionParsnip: i understand that but it shouldn't start and stop gnome display manager and do the same with kde especially on kde since i dont have it installed
[00:47] <WhereIsMySpoon> my friend is trying to install steam which gives you a .deb, but is getting into dependency hell with requiring libgl1-mesa-glx:i386 which requires libdrm2:i386 which recommends libgl1-mesa-dri:i386
[00:48] <WhereIsMySpoon> circular dependencies
[00:48] <WhereIsMySpoon> what d
[00:48] <WhereIsMySpoon> o
[00:48] <jrib> WhereIsMySpoon: how is he trying to install it...?
[00:48] <WhereIsMySpoon> jrib: with the .deb
[00:48] <jrib> WhereIsMySpoon: he types "with the .deb"?  That won't work.
[00:48] <WhereIsMySpoon> jrib: oh you wanted the command
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> WhereIsMySpoon: tried:  sudo apt-get -f install
[00:49] <WhereIsMySpoon> jrib: gdebi Downloads/steam.deb
[00:49] <WhereIsMySpoon> ActionParsnip: thats a really bad idea
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> WhereIsMySpoon: use:  sudo dpkg -i ~/Downloads/steam.deb; sudo apt-get -f install
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> WhereIsMySpoon: why is it a bad idea?
[00:49] <WhereIsMySpoon> ActionParsnip: if it depends on those packages, and you install it anyway, it wont work
[00:49] <WhereIsMySpoon> and you'll have broken packages
[00:49] <jrib> WhereIsMySpoon: you can use dpkg and then try what ActionParsnip said.  That's how things were done before gdebi.  gdebi may be stupid when it comes to multiarch (I don't know)
[00:50] <jrib> WhereIsMySpoon: is he on the right ubuntu version?  What ubuntu version?
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> WhereIsMySpoon: apt-get -f tries to satisfy deps, so you won't have broken packages at a;ll
[00:50] <[TiZ]> Hi. It seems the s2tc compression library isn't being loaded for some reason.
[00:50] <WhereIsMySpoon> jrib: 12.10
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> WhereIsMySpoon: what do you think  -f does when used with apt-get?
[00:50] <Rob1337> Speedtest.net just gave a result of roughly 20mb/s
[00:50] <WhereIsMySpoon> thought it force installed them anyway
[00:50] <Rustyblade> Hey guys! Can anyone help me install wine on my Ubuntu 12.10 64bit
[00:50] <[TiZ]> I'm trying to play the TF2 beta on Steam, and it complains about missing texture compression support. Normally I could fix this by installing the s2tc library, but it doesn't seem to be working anymore in this case.
[00:50] <Rob1337> Thank you ActionParsnip!
[00:50] <WhereIsMySpoon> without checking deps
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> WhereIsMySpoon: you thought wrong
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> WhereIsMySpoon: try checking the man page
[00:51] <Rustyblade> I get this error when I try "sudo apt-get install wine"
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> WhereIsMySpoon: if you make assumptions and they are wrong, you'll look foolish
[00:51] <Andrew_> hey
[00:51] <WhereIsMySpoon> ActionParsnip, jrib: http://pastie.org/5491427
[00:52] <Rustyblade> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1415904/
[00:52] <Andrew_> I'd like to know if there is a way to clone a hard drive OS (unix) into an sd card
[00:52] <ActionParsnip> WhereIsMySpoon: -f is short for ..fix.broken
[00:52] <Andrew_> and retain everything that's in it... (that is, their bootsector, files, permissions etc)
[00:52] <Rob1337> doesn't -f mean "force" in most command line contexts?
[00:52] <WhereIsMySpoon> ActionParsnip, jrib he doesnt have broken packages
[00:52] <Rustyblade> Hey guys! Can anyone help me install wine on my Ubuntu 12.10 64bit
[00:53] <WhereIsMySpoon> just circular dependencies
[00:53] <jrib> WhereIsMySpoon: steam installs fine here by the way with gdebi.  Your friend probably has some ppa or mixed repos or random packages
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> WhereIsMySpoon: the steam deb is, it will pull down the deps needed for the package, then finally install steam
[00:53] <Hausas> How do I find out what partition my OS is?
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> Hausas: df -h
[00:53] <Rustyblade> Feels ignored*
[00:53] <Rob1337> Rustyblade, go to software center and search for wine
[00:53] <K350> Anyone here using turses?
[00:54] <Hausas> That doesn't tell me much
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> Rustyblade: what is the output of:   sudo apt-get install wine    please use http://pastebin.ubuntu.com
[00:54] <Rustyblade> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1415904/
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> Hausas: how does it not?
[00:55] <Hausas> ActionParsnip, I've got several OS'es on my hdd. And I want to find out which one is in which partition
[00:55] <Rob1337> Hausas: use Gparted
[00:55] <Rob1337> I think that's the good partition software
[00:55] <Rob1337> for ubuntu
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> Hausas: #/# is the sytstem partition (read the right colomn). Then read the left colomn and it tells you the partition mounted for '/'
[00:55] <WhereIsMySpoon> ActionParsnip: why did doing sudo apt-get install -f remove xubuntu-desktop?
[00:56] <Hausas> So the one with "/" should be the OS i'm on now?
[00:56] <WhereIsMySpoon> ActionParsnip: and xorg
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> Rustyblade: do you have the universe repo enabled?
[00:56] <Andrew_> any idea on how to do the cloning to HDD -> SD?
[00:56] <Hausas> But there are two of them
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> WhereIsMySpoon: thats just a meta package, removing it doesn't remove the contents it pulled in
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> Andrew_: rsync or dd
[00:57] <Andrew_> yea
[00:57] <Andrew_> but
[00:57] <Andrew_> I think
[00:57] <WhereIsMySpoon> ActionParsnip: ahh, its *remove* rather than *purge*
[00:57] <Rustyblade> ActionParsnip: Yes
[00:57] <WhereIsMySpoon> right?
[00:57] <jrib> WhereIsMySpoon: it doesn't remove anything unless you agree to
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> Hausas: yes, the OS booted will show it's / partition in df
[00:57] <Andrew_> HDD's have different bs than the sd card, don't they?
[00:57] <Hausas> But there are two of them
[00:57] <Hausas> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1415913/
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> Hausas: but you said "That doesn't tell me much"   which is wrong, isn't it?
[00:58] <Hausas> :)
[00:58] <Hausas> It's not completely wrong
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> Hausas: it gives you 50% of what you want....
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> Hausas: it actually tells you quite a bit
[00:58] <Hausas> So, you see, I've got this output, of df -h
[00:59] <Rustyblade> So what do I do Action?
[00:59] <ActionParsnip> Rustyblade: enable the extra repo
[00:59] <Hausas> what partition is currently running os on?
[01:00] <Hausas> coz i pretty messed up all the partitions
[01:00] <Rustyblade> What do you mean?
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> WhereIsMySpoon: did your buddy get steam installed ok?
[01:01] <WhereIsMySpoon> ActionParsnip: not yet
[01:01] <WhereIsMySpoon> ActionParsnip: he did a install -f
[01:01] <Andrew__> hey
[01:01] <ActionParsnip> Rustyblade: the packages needed are from sources which are not enabled by default, you can use software centre to enable them, or manually uncomment them in /etc/apt/sources.list if you desire
[01:01] <Andrew__> got a dc !
[01:01] <WhereIsMySpoon> it said removing all those xorg and xubuntu-desktop things and he just did apt-get install them again
[01:01] <ActionParsnip> WhereIsMySpoon: are the necessary packages installing now?
[01:01] <WhereIsMySpoon> install -f again does nothing
[01:01] <Andrew__> any idea on the cloing isse?
[01:01] <Andrew__> *issue
[01:01] <WhereIsMySpoon> ActionParsnip: gdebi steam.deb does the circular dependencies still
[01:02] <Andrew__> I think HDD's have different bs than the SD cards, wouldn't this be a problem if I copied the files with dd?
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> WhereIsMySpoon: you could manually pull down the deb, install it and satisfy the dep
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> Andrew__: could use rsync (or grsync in gui)
[01:02] <j4jackj> What does +f 5:10 #ubuntu-unregged mean?
[01:02] <Andrew__> no gui possible!
[01:03] <Andrew__> how can I use rsynch to do that?
[01:03] <Rustyblade> I think my sources are messed up...
[01:03] <Rustyblade> http://imagebin.org/238395
[01:03] <ActionParsnip> Andrew__: you can use a liveCD if you want a gui
[01:03] <Hausas> I should have partitioned the hard drive before I installed any of the OSes
[01:03] <Andrew__> I'd rather do it through the console ;)
[01:03] <WhereIsMySpoon> ActionParsnip: worth noting: whilst he did the apt-get install -f it *Did* install a load of i386 packages
[01:04] <k1l> j4jackj: keep the offtopic out of here, please
[01:04] <Andrew__> any sample syntax for the rsync do accomplish that?
[01:04] <j4jackj> OK!
[01:04] <j4jackj> bye
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> WhereIsMySpoon: yes, those are needed to square off the packages needed
[01:04] <WhereIsMySpoon> ActionParsnip: cancel that, it seems to have magiced its way to victory
[01:04] <WhereIsMySpoon> science!
[01:04] <Andrew__> which clones an hdd installed os to an sd-card
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> WhereIsMySpoon: like I said:  sudo apt-get -f install
[01:05] <ActionParsnip> WhereIsMySpoon: which you said was a bad idea....weird stuff huh
[01:05] <WhereIsMySpoon> ActionParsnip: :P
[01:05] <Rustyblade> Action?
[01:05] <Hausas> ActionParsnip, doesn't grub.cfg file tell you what partition what os is installed on?
[01:05] <WhereIsMySpoon> ActionParsnip: when he did the sudo dpkg steam.deb thing it said dependency errors and unconfigured stuff but it still runs steam
[01:05] <ActionParsnip> Rustyblade: what is the output of:   lsb_release -sc
[01:05] <WhereIsMySpoon> this a problem?
[01:05] <ActionParsnip> Hausas: possibly, worth a looksee
[01:05] <jiffe1> anyone run into issues where supermicro machines freeze on boot?  this seems to happen maybe 25% of the time
[01:06] <Rustyblade> It says quantal
[01:06] <ActionParsnip> Rustyblade: ok, gimme a sec
[01:06] <jiffe1> it gets past the grub screen but not much further
[01:06] <Rustyblade> Thx man :D
[01:06] <WhereIsMySpoon> ActionParsnip: he's now getting "fatal error, failed to load steamui.so"
[01:07] <jiffe1> if I hard power off the machine and power it back on it will come to the grub screen requiring me to press enter and then it boots fine
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> Rustyblade: run:   sudo wget -O /etc/apt/sources.list https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/quantalsources.list; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install wine
[01:07] <Andrew__> ActionParsnip: any sample syntax if that's possible for rsync for the cloning?
[01:08] <ActionParsnip> Andrew__: man rsync
[01:08] <ActionParsnip> WhereIsMySpoon: http://steamcommunity.com/app/221410/discussions/0/882966056522497778/
[01:08] <ActionParsnip> WhereIsMySpoon: http://steamcommunity.com/app/221410/discussions/0/882966056906327743/
[01:08] <ActionParsnip> WhereIsMySpoon: guess where I'm getting these links from :D
[01:09] <WhereIsMySpoon> ActionParsnip: yea i just googledf them
[01:09] <ActionParsnip> WhereIsMySpoon: indeed
[01:09] <ActionParsnip> WhereIsMySpoon: i believe there is a linux steam channel too
[01:09] <Rustyblade> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1415932/
[01:09] <Rustyblade> Another error :L
[01:10] <ActionParsnip> Rustyblade: what is the output of:   apt-cache policy wine1.4
[01:10] <Hausas> ActionParsnip, I don't think it tells me anything
[01:11] <Rustyblade> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1415933/
[01:11] <ActionParsnip> Rustyblade: cool, the repo is enabled :)
[01:12] <Hausas> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1415934/
[01:12] <Rustyblade> So um, why can't I install it?
[01:13] <ActionParsnip> Rustyblade: try:  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install wine1.5
[01:13] <Hausas> so, ActionParsnip, it says hd0,msdos1
[01:13] <Hausas> what does that mean?
[01:13] <ActionParsnip> Hausas: 1st drive 1st partition
[01:14] <Hausas> so /dev/sda1 ?
[01:14] <ActionParsnip> Hausas: seems you are using lvm or somesuch
[01:14] <Hausas> lvm?
[01:15] <Rustyblade> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1415938/ (sobs*)
[01:15] <Hausas> GParted using, I am
[01:15] <ActionParsnip> Hausas: if you don't use raid or lvm then it'll be /dev/sda1
[01:16] <Rustyblade> (Sobs* in distress)
[01:16] <SolarisBoy> !live-build
[01:16] <psychopathic> i work on my computer at 1 unit a time i make all the money in the world in a box out a square and through a circle
[01:17] <Hausas> Well, if hd0,msdos1 = /dev/sda1, does that mean, that hd0,msdos2 = /dev/sda2 ?
[01:17] <Hausas> But /dev/sda2 is only 500MB big
[01:17] <Hausas> And Fedora is supposed to be there
[01:17] <ecart> hello! I need help finding a perl script that is running hidden in the machine.
[01:17] <ecart> I know I need to know the file name and directory in which it is running.
[01:17] <ecart> can someone help me.
[01:18] <Hausas> And there's a "lvm" flag set on /dev/sda2
[01:18] <SolarisBoy> ecart: type ps auxwww |grep perl
[01:18] <cabuloso> how do i check via console what version of ubuntu i am using?
[01:18] <SolarisBoy> cabuloso: lsb_release -sc
[01:18] <SolarisBoy> cabuloso: many other ways too
[01:19] <Rustyblade> ActionParsnip: Will I never get Wine?
[01:19] <ecart> ps auxwww |grep perl
[01:19] <ecart> root     25285  0.0  0.0   3324   824 pts/1    S+   23:18   0:00 grep --color=au
[01:19] <ecart> to perl
[01:19] <psychopathic> god travels at 1 planck a second 2 rads a minute and 15 degrees per hour in one direction
[01:19] <SolarisBoy> ecart: there are no perl scripts running on your system - what makes you feel it's hidden? or even that it's running?
[01:19] <cabuloso> SolarisBoy, thanks =)
[01:19] <ActionParsnip> Rustyblade: maybe others can advise, not sure tbh
[01:19] <SolarisBoy> cabuloso: sure
[01:21] <Rustyblade> Well I gotta get back to my sobbing...
[01:21] <Rustyblade> Thanks for everything..
[01:22] <Hausas> Kinda sucks when you have 3 OSes and you want to install another one
[01:22] <Hausas> :D
[01:22] <pigeonor> i installed owncloud, for some reason, i can login by visiting doshay.net/subdomains/cloud but if i go to cloud.doshay.net it just keeps asking for login info
[01:22] <pigeonor> any ideas
[01:23] <pigeonor> running on ubuntu 10.04 server
[01:23] <compdoc> I tried owncloud for a short time about two months ago. it needs a lot of work
[01:23] <pigeonor> it got a lot better
[01:23] <pigeonor> i had it working on my dreamhost server
[01:24] <pigeonor> but now that i am on linode, i cant get it to work
[01:24] <PoolShark_> ugh... this ubuntu guest on ESXi is driving me insane
[01:24] <WhereIsMySpoon> ActionParsnip: why does apt-get install -f keep wanting to remove xorg and steam packages
[01:24] <WhereIsMySpoon> :S
[01:24] <ActionParsnip> WhereIsMySpoon: not sure, very weird
[01:25] <Hausas> I installed Mageia earlier on this morning and it crashed my whole partition
[01:25] <ActionParsnip> WhereIsMySpoon: let me try
[01:25] <Hausas> I'm not gonna use it again
[01:25] <Hausas> ever
[01:27] <psychopathic> Did you guys know that digitally imported is like listening to your brain on drugs
[01:27] <WhereIsMySpoon> ActionParsnip: let you try what? O.o
[01:27] <WhereIsMySpoon> install -f?
[01:27] <ActionParsnip> WhereIsMySpoon: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1415952
[01:28] <Andrew__> ActiveParsnip: do I have to format the SD card first?
[01:28] <Andrew__> ActiveParsnip: or I can just use the rsync command to perform it in-place?
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[01:30] <SolarisBoy> has anyone used a program called live-build for creating live ubuntu systems (sorry about prefixing my question with *anyone* i couldn't think of a better way to ask that specific question)
[01:30] <jrib> WhereIsMySpoon: if you try installing each of the deps that it wants to install but can't and keep recursing, you will find the reason.  Like I said, it's likely because of some ppa, unsupported repository, or randomly installed package
[01:30] <Pythagoras> i am un capable to setup a virtual host on linode.  tried everything
[01:31]  * lieanu #
[01:31] <WhereIsMySpoon> ActionParsnip: he did the exact same commands you just did
[01:31] <WhereIsMySpoon> the dpkg
[01:31] <WhereIsMySpoon> then the install -f
[01:31] <WhereIsMySpoon> and it wants to remove steam and xorg packages
[01:31] <WhereIsMySpoon> wtfs
[01:32] <dfa> hi there..... how do i add an item to the menu (to not have to launch it via terminal only) ? (i have lxde)
[01:32] <psychopathic> Did you guys know the devil does everything perfectly if one thing it does works out to every dimension inside angle.
[01:32] <ActionParsnip> WhereIsMySpoon: try:  sudo apt-get --purge remove steam
[01:32] <puff> Hm, odd...  so somebody here and also various google hits about the nvidia driver say it's there for 12.10/12.04.... but https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates does not list it.  Am I looking in the right place?
[01:32] <ActionParsnip> WhereIsMySpoon: then run:  sudo apt-get clean; sudo dpkg -i steam.deb
[01:33] <orlok> psychopathic is a bot
[01:33] <WhereIsMySpoon> ActionParsnip: will try
[01:33] <dfa> someone willing to help this newbie? :)
[01:33] <ClumsyFairyQueen> Does anyone here know about how umasks work? For example, I want to make sure that _all_ files and folders created inside a folder are created with permissions of 700. Or would I have to apply umasks to the user, not the folder to accomplish this?
[01:34] <ClumsyFairyQueen> dfa: what was your question? :)
[01:34] <WhereIsMySpoon> ActionParsnip: and then install -f?
[01:34] <jrib> ClumsyFairyQueen: you want to apply it to a specific folder?
[01:34] <ClumsyFairyQueen> jrib: yup. recursively
[01:34] <jrib> ClumsyFairyQueen: you would need to use ACLs to accomplish that
[01:35] <ClumsyFairyQueen> aww. That was what I was hoping to avoid
[01:35] <ClumsyFairyQueen> thanks anyways :)
[01:35] <WhereIsMySpoon> ActionParsnip?
[01:35] <jrib> ClumsyFairyQueen: why :)
[01:35] <dfa> thanks CFQ....  i have installed icecat..... but at the moment i can only launch it via terminal..... i would like to have it in the menu (internet section)..... but don't know how to do it..... i have lxde
[01:35] <trism> puff: nvidia-experimental-310 for 310.14 and xedgers ppa has 310.19
[01:35] <psychopathic> im half of nothing proper so bot is not
[01:36] <puff> trism: AH, xedgers ppa, not x-swat.
[01:36] <jrib> psychopathic: stay on-topic to prove you are not a bot :)
[01:36] <ActionParsnip> WhereIsMySpoon: yes to get the deps
[01:36] <ClumsyFairyQueen> jrib: welcome to the wonders of selinux.
[01:36] <WhereIsMySpoon> ActionParsnip: it wants to remove steam and xorg packages again
[01:36] <maveas> Got MAAS experience?
[01:36] <ClumsyFairyQueen> dfa: sorry, can't help you with that - only use Unity and KDE
[01:37] <psychopathic> OK yes even better more
[01:37] <ActionParsnip> WhereIsMySpoon: all I can say then is grab the 32bit packages for what it needs and install them
[01:37] <ClumsyFairyQueen> dfa: you would have to create a custom launcher for it.
[01:37] <dfa> ok CFQ.... thank you anyways......
[01:37] <jrib> WhereIsMySpoon: if you try installing each of the deps that it wants to install but can't and keep recursing, you will find the reason.  Like I said, it's likely because of some ppa, unsupported repository, or randomly installed package
[01:37] <dfa> ANYBODY HERE GOOD WITH LXDE ?
[01:38] <ActionParsnip> dfa: lose the caps please
[01:38] <WhereIsMySpoon> jrib: but thats how this all started, the deps are recursive
[01:38] <ActionParsnip> dfa: good in what way?
[01:38] <yhusha> can't install econnman ubuntu 12.04 which requires Python-Elementary >= 1.7.0,  Python-E_DBus >= 1.7.0, + * Python >= 2.7
[01:38] <dfa> sorry....
[01:38] <jrib> WhereIsMySpoon: show me where you try to install each dep...
[01:39] <dfa> well i guess my problem is something very easy for someone who knows a bit of lxde.......
[01:39] <puff> trism: Whoa, edgers is some scary loking stuff.
[01:39] <trism> puff: yes, hence the -edgers
[01:39] <dfa> can you read up or do i have to rewrite it?
[01:39] <ClumsyFairyQueen> puff: I still use it :P
[01:39] <ActionParsnip> dfa: reading up is no worry :), gimme a sec
[01:40] <ActionParsnip> dfa: if you make a .desktop file for the app in /usr/share/applications it will show. You may find alacarte can do it for you, if not then copy one of the files from ~/.config/autostart and modify it as you want
[01:41] <Kireji> I need to do a remote update on a 10.04 server -> 12.04 server.  can this be done in one operation, or do I have to step through 11.04 and 11.10 ?  where are the instructions for doing this without a GUI?
[01:41] <puff> trism, ClumsyFairyQueen:  The key question is, if it doesn't work, how hard will it be to back out and try the binary driver installer from nvidia?
[01:41] <jrib> !upgrade | Kireji
[01:41] <jrib> Kireji: one operation
[01:41] <ActionParsnip> Kireji: 10.04 to 12.04 is suypported as it is LTS to LTS
[01:41] <{bosco}> hey i am running ubuntu but i have a windows 8 iso file and i need to reinstall windows but i have no DVD drive on my laptop i have tried to put it on a flash drive but nothing seams to work any programs or help???
[01:41] <WhereIsMySpoon> {bosco}: ##windows
[01:42] <ActionParsnip> {bosco}: grub2 can boot ISO files.
[01:42] <dfa> which is the easiest way?
[01:42] <WhereIsMySpoon> you can set your bios to boot off a flash drive
[01:42] <cjae_> so with pae 32 bit cpus can address more than 4 gig of ram
[01:42] <ActionParsnip> dfa: alacarte is a pretty GUI, not sure if its still around
[01:42] <{bosco}> WhereIsMySpoon, why would i go there since i am using ubuntu to create the flash drive? just curoius
[01:42] <ActionParsnip> !info alacarte
[01:42] <ActionParsnip> yay
[01:43] <Kireji> ActionParsnip: jrib thank you.  and it looks like there is a 12.04.1 too, important?
[01:43] <trism> puff: might be difficult to purge, I haven't done it successfully in the past, but I haven't tried recently
[01:43] <dfa> ok thank you :)
[01:43] <ActionParsnip> Kireji: doesn't matter, that just enables you to install and need fewer upgrades. This is normal for LTS releases
[01:43] <jrib> Kireji: 12.04.1 is just a convenience release so people that install 12.04 fresh don't have so many updates to download.  You'll end up there automatically
[01:44] <Kireji> k thank you
[01:44] <ActionParsnip> Kireji: imagine yu install Ubuntu, 3 years into the 5 years of support. Imagine the updates :).
[01:44] <trism> puff: though of course, the packages are created from the binary from nvidia, so they are the same
[01:44] <Kireji> for reference https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuDesktop#Upgrading_from_Ubuntu_10.04_LTS_to_Ubuntu_12.04_LTS
[01:44] <ActionParsnip> Kireji: the sub releases give an ISO with the newer packages already in
[01:45] <Kireji> jrib: ActionParsnip this is on a headless machine.  I have full console/root/sudo but no GUI
[01:45] <WhereIsMySpoon> ActionParsnip: fun fact: it only tries to remove steam and xorg packages with install -f after the dpkg -i steam.deb is run
[01:45] <WhereIsMySpoon> freakin weird
[01:46] <Kireji> so these instructions https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PreciseUpgrades#Upgrade_from_11.10_to_12.04_LTS_and_10.04_LTS_to_12.04_LTS "Run the Update Manager application from the Unity Dash" - is this something I can do on a console?
[01:46] <jrib> Kireji: you should click on the server link at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/
[01:46] <ActionParsnip> Kireji: yes, just run:  sudo do-release-upgrade
[01:47] <Kireji> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PreciseUpgrades#Network_Upgrade_for_Ubuntu_Servers_.28Recommended.29  kk
[01:47] <puff> trism: Created from the binary, but when I go to install the edgers ppa it warns about package dependencies, etc.
[01:47] <puff> trism: Which is the scary part.
[01:47] <puff> How smooth is the 11.10 to 12.4 upgrade?
[01:47] <trism> puff: yes, I was just speaking of the nvidia-graphics-driver package, -edgers has an updated xorg stack as well
[01:47] <frankko> holy mother of.... 66mB/s in steam right now
[01:47] <puff> trism: Ok, so the depednency scariness doesn't apply to the nvidia-graphics-driver?
[01:48] <trism> puff: that is the part that may be difficult to ppa-purge later (the nvidia-graphics-driver packages are easy enough to purge and replace)
[01:48] <empacher> hi! I am a frustrated noob trying to install some linux OS in a 1.8Ghz single core intel CPU, 1Gb RAM and ATI mobility radeon 9600. In xubuntu 12.04 everything installs smoothly, then i reboot and everything works fine! Then eventually i have 130 updates to install, or something. I do that and restart and there's no problem. However. As I shutdown and come back the next day it crashes everytime it is loading the desktop... :(
[01:48] <frankko> serious sam3 will be downloaded in seconds
[01:48] <puff> trism: Is it feasible to just try the nvidia-graphics-driver part?
[01:48] <trism> puff: well, if you use -edgers, you are really going to have to pull in the whole stack
[01:48] <whywontitwork> Hi I have a USB wireless adapter that dosn't connect to home network... keeps asking for password over and over
[01:48] <frankko> empacher, did you put distro upgrades on while you installed.?
[01:48] <puff> trism: Ah, yeah, that's what I was afraid of...
[01:49] <frankko> you might have to go all the way to the version that is current
[01:49] <ActionParsnip> empacher: do you get the log in screen?
[01:49] <puff> Guess I'll try upgrading to 12.4 first.
[01:49] <frankko> empacher, remove all files in /etc/apt/sources.d/
[01:50] <whywontitwork> Hello?
[01:50] <frankko> empacher, then look at you sources.list
[01:50] <ClumsyFairyQueen> hi whywontitwork
[01:50] <whywontitwork> is that name taken by someone else?
[01:50] <frankko> empacher, if it is only main mirrors, do a aptitude .dist upgrade.
[01:50] <whywontitwork> because I just picked it because NOTHING IS WORKING FOR NO ReASON
[01:50] <Kireji> ActionParsnip: jrib thank you
[01:51] <frankko> if it is a lts version expect for five years new kernels and goodies.
[01:51] <whywontitwork> so could someone please help?
[01:51] <WhereIsMySpoon> ActionParsnip: http://pastie.org/5491583
[01:51] <WhereIsMySpoon> what do
[01:51] <frankko> whywontitwork, what name? Was it frankko? Because i was sure i regged it in 1999
[01:51] <ActionParsnip> whywontitwork: try disabling ipv6 if you don't use it
[01:51] <whywontitwork> If it's any help the adapter is a TP-LINK TL-WN723N
[01:52] <jihad-sabra> HI
[01:52] <joosengee_> hi
[01:52] <joosengee_> everybody
[01:52] <frankko> listen to ActionParsnip ipv6 causes a lot of trouble on hardware that can not handle it... but i do not think that there is much of them left.
[01:52] <joosengee_> someone use ubuntu
[01:52] <joosengee_> or not
[01:53] <jihad-sabra> WHAT
[01:53] <jihad-sabra> me
[01:53] <ActionParsnip> whywontitwork: sudo: unable to resolve host blah      did you change the hostname of the PC?
[01:53] <whywontitwork> it doesn't mention incompatibility with IPv6
[01:53] <joosengee_> I need to know how can I use itune 11 in it?
[01:53] <joosengee_> I use iphone 4 now.
[01:53] <whywontitwork> joosengee_: iTunes does NOT work under Linux at all.
[01:53] <frankko> Joonake, no we hang out here from our QNX, Amiga and BeOS machines because we like the philosophy of ubuntu. OFCOURSE we are running it.
[01:54] <ClumsyFairyQueen> joosengee_: you can't - what are you trying to do/accomplish?
[01:54] <ClumsyFairyQueen> *with itunes
[01:54] <ActionParsnip> joosengee_: ive seen youtube videos of uitunes running but as far as I'm aware it doesn't run and you'll need the closed source virtualbox + full windows lioense and media
[01:54] <whywontitwork> Look around for some alternatives, GTKpod works for the most part
[01:54] <empacher> frankko: i'm not sure i understand what that means :) but i'll try. The log screen appears, i can even interact with it in the first 2 or 3 seconds, then it freezes. 2 seconds later the screen goes black and nothing can be done... i have to pull the plug, boot from CD and install the OS again...
[01:54] <joosengee_> Oh. I Can't jailbreak the iphone 4 with itune.
[01:55] <ActionParsnip> whywontitwork: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnUrqcD4W_M
[01:55] <joosengee_> Now I'm waiting the news for jailbreak iphone 5.
[01:55] <frankko> empacher, you can do that from the recovery mode if you like. boot in recovery, set your root drive as writable and do the alteration
[01:55] <joosengee_> If it can, I will urgent to buy it.
[01:55] <jihad-sabra> plz how i can add back track 5 tools to ubuntu
[01:55] <jrib> WhereIsMySpoon: so now do « apt-cache policy libcairo2 »
[01:55] <ActionParsnip> WhereIsMySpoon:  sudo: unable to resolve host blah    have you changed the hostname?
[01:55] <jihad-sabra> ??
[01:55] <ClumsyFairyQueen> joosengee_: its possible - there are a bunch of guides on google
[01:56] <ActionParsnip> jihad-sabra: I'd ask in #backtrack-linux
[01:56] <ClumsyFairyQueen> but none that I have used, so I won't send any sites directly here.
[01:56] <joosengee_> it can, or not?
[01:56] <frankko> empacher, OK if you get graphical login screen do crtl+alt+F1 and enter cli
[01:56] <ClumsyFairyQueen> joosengee_: it can.
[01:56] <joosengee_> what's about can?
[01:56] <ClumsyFairyQueen> or at least for the 4S versions, so there should be one for 5
[01:57] <joosengee_> Can jailbreak the iphone 5 with ubuntu?
[01:57] <frankko> empacher, then do in terminal: sudo rm -rf /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
[01:57] <munaq> hello
[01:57] <munaq> :)
[01:57] <WhereIsMySpoon> ActionParsnip: eh?
[01:57] <WhereIsMySpoon> jrib: will try
[01:57] <joosengee_> The software of jailbreak that can run on the ubuntu?
[01:58] <whywontitwork> how do I switch off IPv6?
[01:58] <ActionParsnip> WhereIsMySpoon: read the text, seems the PC cannot resolve its own hostname to 127.0.0.1
[01:58] <ClumsyFairyQueen> joosengee_: as said, there is software for ubuntu that can jailbreak the 4S. Not for ubuntu yet, but should be avaliable in the future
[01:58] <ActionParsnip> whywontitwork: add the boot option:  ipv6.disable=1
[01:58] <frankko> empacher, then sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list and remove all non canonical entries bu moving to the line and pressing ctrl+K
[01:58] <frankko> yyou can move with the arrow keys in nano
[01:58] <WhereIsMySpoon> ActionParsnip: he has no networking issues that are showing bad symptoms atm
[01:58] <WhereIsMySpoon> so i dont think its an issue
[01:58] <WhereIsMySpoon> tho i could be wrong again :D
[01:59] <ActionParsnip> WhereIsMySpoon: its good to have the system be able to talk to itself
[01:59] <ActionParsnip> WhereIsMySpoon: the name in /etc/hostname needs to be presetnt in /etc/hosts  so it resolves to 127.0.0.1
[01:59] <ClumsyFairyQueen> joosengee_: you will want to watch the Absinthe project
[01:59] <ActionParsnip> WhereIsMySpoon: its not going to fix the issue but its needed for things in the OS
[01:59] <whywontitwork> can I get a driver for this usb stick that i have?
[01:59] <frankko> after that it is just to do an "sudo apt-get update" and a "aptitude dist-upgrade " then you are done
[01:59] <whywontitwork> TL-WN723N
[02:00] <WhereIsMySpoon> jrib: http://pastie.org/5491608
[02:00] <WhereIsMySpoon> ActionParsnip: k, will deal with that late
[02:00] <jrib> WhereIsMySpoon: so there you go
[02:00] <WhereIsMySpoon> r
[02:00] <joosengee_> How can I follow the Absinthe project ?
[02:00] <WhereIsMySpoon> jrib: there i go?
[02:00] <empacher> frankko: thanks a lot. I've written that down and i will try it. Sometimes i can be fast enough to enter ctrl+alt+F1, but just in those 2 secs before the crash. a bit later and not even REISUB works.
[02:00] <jrib> WhereIsMySpoon: look at what you have pastebinned
[02:00] <WhereIsMySpoon> jrib: i need to add those reps?
[02:00] <frankko> empacher, then you would only get updates if you are on a late release or a LTS becauseyou allready would have the newest
[02:00] <WhereIsMySpoon> to sources.list
[02:00] <WhereIsMySpoon> right?
[02:00] <jrib> WhereIsMySpoon: you have a version of that package that is not from the ubuntu repositories
[02:00] <WeThePeople> how to run a .py script in 12.04
[02:01] <WhereIsMySpoon> WeThePeople: python asd.py
[02:01] <WeThePeople> thanks
[02:01] <empacher> frankko: i tried xubuntu 12.04 LTS and it says i need 130 or so updates
[02:01] <WhereIsMySpoon> jrib: sorry if im being stupid, but where in there does it say where its from
[02:02] <jrib> WhereIsMySpoon: there are 3 versions listed.  The bottom two come from quantal and quantal-updates.  The first one is currently not available from any repository you have enabled (it probably came from a ppa you had in precise and got disabled)
[02:02] <frankko> empacher, the login manager is the problem, try using the recovery in the boot menu before booting. Mount the drive as root with write privilegies and use chroot to the mountpoint to get to the console of the system. Then remove said display/login manager
[02:02] <WhereIsMySpoon> jrib: so what do i do now
[02:02] <ourdvark> I uninstalled the unity shopping lens, but why do my amazon links still open up a separate launcher item? http://i.imgur.com/q0aw8.jpg?1
[02:03] <frankko> if*
[02:03] <frankko> empacher, IF
[02:03] <frankko> empacher, IF the login manager is the problem
[02:03] <frankko> sorry i did not spell correctly 5 lines up
[02:03] <empacher> frankko: i tried disabling the "ask for password at startup" thingy and the same thing happens
[02:03] <xangua> ourdvark: right clic, remove it
[02:03] <whywontitwork> WTF? Suddenly it works. Sorry guys!
[02:04] <jrib> WhereIsMySpoon: up to you.  You can either remove all of the versions that come from the ppa and downgrade back to the official versions, or re-enable the PPA and pray it does not break everything (PPAs are unofficial repositories == unsupported)
[02:04] <empacher> frankki: only i get to see all my desktop appearing and even some popups and notifications, then BAM, crash
[02:04] <jrib> whywontitwork: change your nick!
[02:04] <ourdvark> xangua:  negative, it still comes back when I click amazon links
[02:04] <frankko> empacher,  if you uninstall all displaymanagers and login managers and revoke to "nodm" and running as you username.. does it still crash?
[02:04] <WhereIsMySpoon> jrib: if i went through all the ppas in the update manager and used ppa-purge on them, will it remove all software insstalled buy the ppa
[02:04] <frankko> i do not think it will
[02:04] <WhereIsMySpoon> *by
[02:05] <jrib> WhereIsMySpoon: yes, but the ppa where that package came from is currently not enabled
[02:05]  * frankko = off for 20 min, grandkids awoke.
[02:05] <xangua> ourdvark: have you check firefox addons¿ is a new feature to integrate websites you visit on unity...i am still on 12.04 so no idea how to enable/disable them
[02:05] <WhereIsMySpoon> jrib: ok
[02:05] <WhereIsMySpoon> jrib: so what do i do?
[02:06] <WhereIsMySpoon> ppa-purge it then try to install the package again?
[02:06] <jrib> WhereIsMySpoon: that is one option, yes
[02:06] <WhereIsMySpoon> and it should install from the correct place
[02:06] <jrib> WhereIsMySpoon: ppa-purge would try to downgrade the package
[02:07] <ourdvark> xangua: good call, there are two addons installed by default, "unity desktop integration" and "unity websites integration"
[02:07] <myst3rious> hi
[02:07] <WhereIsMySpoon> jrib: ok, will try that
[02:07] <myst3rious> wow. changing a nick makes qwebirc fail. lovely.
[02:10] <myst3rious> wow, a lull in the action. a rare sight indeed.
[02:10] <jrib> myst3rious: we were about to break the record, but you just had to say something!
[02:11] <myst3rious> sorry jriv
[02:11] <myst3rious> *jrib
[02:11] <jihad-sabra> how i can add backtrack tools on ubuntu plz
[02:11] <ClumsyFairyQueen> lol
[02:11] <jrib> jihad-sabra: aren't most of them in ubuntu's repositories?  Which are you looking for specifically?
[02:11] <Zael> lol
[02:11] <empacher> frankko: i have no idea what that means (I am as noob as a newborn baby) but i will try to do what you told me and see if it improves. I don't know if it has something to do with the kernel (it always asks me to install a new kernel), or if it has something to do with the graphic drivers (once i got an error appearing over and over when i did ctrl alt F1 before the crash saying something about radeon i can't remember. This only happened on
[02:11] <empacher> ce, though...
[02:12] <djskidd> test 1, 2, 3, 4
[02:13] <myst3rious> awesome the computer works
[02:13] <jihad-sabra> app for network
[02:13] <dr_willis> !test
[02:13] <djskidd> oh. sorry
[02:14] <djskidd> does anyone know how to get BearShare working on Ubuntu?
[02:14] <jihad-sabra> app for network <jrib>
[02:14] <ActionParsnip> jihad-sabra: http://duckduckgo.com/?q=add+backtrack+tools+to+ubuntu
[02:15] <jihad-sabra> thnx
[02:16] <WeThePeople> anybody have scrapy installed
[02:16] <profElm> Hi all, I'm trying to remove GRUB from my computer but I'm having a hard time doing so. I tried to reformat and install Windows 7 again, while running BootRec.exe /fixmbr but that does not do anything.
[02:16] <profElm> Is there a way that I can troubleshoot this from a live USB?
[02:17] <WeThePeople> profelm, installing win7 should remove the grub from mbr
[02:17] <profElm> I would assume so, myself.
[02:17] <dr_willis> profElm: you could zero the drive totally wirh dd.. or ask in #windows
[02:18] <profElm> However, I have two blank hard drives in my computer. One is a 1TB and one is a SSD. I don't know if that is a factor, though.
[02:18] <dr_willis> unplug one ;-)
[02:18] <lcabreza> actividentity not turning blue on Windows 7 or WIndows xp using virtualbox? need HELP !
[02:18] <profElm> fdisk -l doesn't show anything, either.
[02:19] <dr_willis> whats actividentity?
[02:19] <profElm> I can see the drives in GParted, though.
[02:19] <Erin> profElm, use gparted to create a new MBR/parition table (msdos)
[02:20] <dr_willis> profElm: if you totally want to erase the hd. use dd. tgen use wundows to partition ir
[02:20] <dr_willis> it.
[02:20] <profElm> Thanks Erin and doctor willis.
[02:20] <dr_willis> or gparted
[02:20] <mrklaw> @profElm why do you think windows didn't clear grub out?
[02:20] <profElm> I know what you talking 'bout.
[02:20] <Erin> doesn't he just need to make a new mbr/partition table ?
[02:21] <profElm> mrklaw, ever since I installed W8 on my desktop, weird things started happening.
[02:21] <lcabreza> dr_willis: its class A badge : acive key ..
[02:21] <profElm> And I was able to track it down to UEFI.
[02:21] <profElm> Furthermore, I tried to dual-boot Windows 8 & Ubuntu on my X230 but UEFI was messing with it.
[02:21] <Ububegin> Hi, what is that command.. which can output to your screen as well as to your txt file at the same time.. Cant seem to recall its name
[02:21] <Erin> Ububegin, cat
[02:22] <dr_willis> Ububegin:  tee
[02:22] <devon> help me guys my ubuntu seriously messed up
[02:22] <Ububegin> dr_willis: ah... thanks... :)
[02:22] <Erin> tee works, I use cat my self..... cat filename > /output/file
[02:23] <dr_willis> he wanted screen and a file. ;-)
[02:23] <devon> suddenly the screen goes black with an error message, it goes to a messed up GUI, and then to a black login screen I log in and it's only a terminal
[02:23] <Erin> ahh true
[02:23] <devon> I booted Irssi and now I"m here
[02:23] <devon> Help!
[02:23] <devon> how do I get back to Unity>
[02:23] <Erin> devon, sudo service lightdm restart
[02:24] <devon> how do I get out of Irssi?
[02:24] <dr_willis> whats tge error message also...
[02:24] <Erin> esc maybe ?
[02:24] <Erin> idk don't use it
[02:25] <dr_willis> alt-ctrl-f1 through f6 for consoles.
[02:25] <dr_willis> alt-ctrl-f1 through f6 for consoles. need to quit irssi
[02:25] <mnathani> whats the best / most colourful (Different colour for each persons chat line) graphical IRC client on linux?
[02:25] <dr_willis>    use /quit  if needed..
[02:26] <dr_willis> mnathani:  most all can colorize nicks
[02:26] <mrklaw> mnathani I've been trying weechat recently. It's pretty cool.
[02:27] <dr_willis> weechat has a script for that. xchat has the feature also
[02:29] <WeThePeople> where is the gui for sources.list in 12.04
[02:29] <dr_willis> theres a software-sources tool in the menus
[02:30] <dr_willis> or synaptic can do it
[02:30] <WhereIsMySpoon> whilst trying to purge a non-standard ppa, ppa-purge is saying its gonna remove grub-common
[02:30] <WhereIsMySpoon> is that gonna remove grub entirely or just the outdated version and install the latest official version
[02:31] <devon> okay the message I got was [drm]neuvou: Failed to idle channel <x>.  <x> being 1, 2, or 3
[02:31] <dr_willis> was your ppa doing somthing with  grub?
[02:31] <WhereIsMySpoon> dr_willis: it was a wine ppa
[02:32] <mnathani> How would I go about fixing this dependancy issue? http://goo.gl/KRjWz
[02:32] <dr_willis> thats weird that grub is affected
[02:32] <mnathani> Also whats the coolest Compiz Berryl these days for Ubuntu?
[02:32] <ActionParsnip> mnathani: sudo apt-get -f install
[02:32] <dr_willis> id purge it then reinstall grub-pc to besafe  ;-)
[02:33] <WhereIsMySpoon> dr_willis: <_____>
[02:33] <dr_willis> mnathani: there only compiz these days
[02:33] <fooboo>  how can i determine what level of privilege is needed for a given system call?
[02:33] <ActionParsnip> mnathani: compiz is compiz, therefore it is the coolest
[02:33] <dr_willis> mnathani:  its installed by default
[02:33] <ricardoramirez> I there. I want to download nvidia driver but it shows me a lot of options.
[02:33] <ricardoramirez> Could you please help me? = http://i46.tinypic.com/34y4gzr.png
[02:33] <devon> great, cryptswap is claiming something is unavailable
[02:34] <WhereIsMySpoon> dr_willis: i feel...unhappy about that
[02:34] <escott> fooboo, does the man page not say
[02:35] <devon> cryptsetup: evms_activate is not available
[02:35] <devon> hello?
[02:35] <devon> don't tell me it messed up the chromebook too!
[02:35] <kvothetech> devon: ?
[02:36] <devon> I get a message on the ubuntu loading screen. cryptsetup: evms_activate is not available
[02:36] <dr_willis> vague comment is vague
[02:36] <almoxarife> ricardoramirez: you want 'recomendada'
[02:36] <fooboo> escott thanks ive just been getting into the source of things and didn't know it was stated in the man pages
[02:36] <escott> devon, emvs would be "enterprise volumn management
[02:37] <devon> so why am I getting this?
[02:37] <devon> how do I fix?
[02:37] <fooboo> is there anywhere it lists the default ubuntu capabilities
[02:37] <fooboo> ?
[02:37] <devon> or how do I bypass?
[02:38] <WhereIsMySpoon> night
[02:38] <escott> devon, your swap must be on an evms volume http://evms.sourceforge.net/
[02:38] <devon> is that what the "encrypt hard drive" option in setup does?
[02:39] <profElm> Thanks guys, Zeroing my hard drive was the way to go.
[02:39] <excalibr> how do you clone people's ppa, ala fork a repo in github? #dev
[02:39] <ricardoramirez_> http://i46.tinypic.com/34y4gzr.png
[02:40] <fooboo> 'man capabilities'
[02:40] <ricardoramirez_> I there. I want to download nvidia driver but it shows me a lot of options. http://i46.tinypic.com/34y4gzr.png
[02:40] <devon> erm I got something called busybox and I entered yes and now it's cycling Y
[02:40] <devon> Y
[02:40] <devon> Y
[02:40] <devon> Y
[02:40] <FloodBot1> devon: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:40] <devon> Y
[02:41] <ricardoramirez_> I want to download nvidia driver but it shows me a lot of options. http://i46.tinypic.com/34y4gzr.png
[02:41] <escott> thats was entertaining
[02:42] <excalibr> and the bots got his host wrong
[02:42] <mnathani> does the macbookpro need graphic drivers for use on Ubuntu Linux?
[02:43] <Kireji> Whoot!!  I just did the LTS server upgrade  thank you.  now on 12.04.1 - but a question, now for kernet 3.2, the kernel now says generic, whereas before it said server
[02:43] <Kireji> this machine is primarily used as a server, does it matter?
[02:43] <Staiden> on 12.04.01 server we are having a problem getting samba 4 package to install, we are needing it for zentyal. it kinda looks like it might be having a problem writing over samba 2? we did sudo apt-get remove --purge samba, then did a fresh install of samba it gave us the same error
[02:44] <Turtle_> Hello
[02:45] <laurus> My external VGA monitor is not detected in xrandr. How to detect it? gnome-control-center isn't doing that.
[02:45] <WeThePeople> is wget coded in python?
[02:46] <excalibr> dont think so
[02:47] <clunkychicken> you could always import os and use wget if its installed
[02:47] <trism> WeThePeople: no
[02:47] <MrE> If I want to do a manual partitoning with full disk encryption and lvm at install,
[02:48] <Guest9956> ..
[02:48] <MrE> sorry, hit enter too soon:) How do set that up.
[02:48] <Kireji> alternately, are there settings at boot or while runnign to optimize the kernel to act like a server as opposed to a desktop/gui-centric machine?
[02:48] <phunyguy> Since nobody is answering in #kubuntu, I will ask here.  I am trying out Kubuntu 12.10, and it has a nice IM client - KDE-Telepathy, does it have IRC support, and if so, do I need to install something special to enable it? (Kind of like Pidgin and how you need a special package for IRC)
[02:48] <Sach> des anyone use pdf exhange viewer, through wine, in ubuntu?  I'm having trouble installing it.
[02:48] <Dunno> mmmmmm
[02:49] <min|dvir|us> Hi. Does anyone have timidity?
[02:49] <Turtle_> Anyone know what my cause a live usb to report a -110 error? I cannot get passed the Ubuntu logo loading screen.
[02:50] <MrE> I dont need a complete walkthrough. I understand the basics, I just am not sure if I create 1 big physical vol for encryption then do lvm on it, and if so, is that an option that comes after the partioning?
[02:50] <bulletrulz> do u guys know how i can get a global menu in zubuntu
[02:50] <bulletrulz> xubuntu
[02:51] <min|dvir|us> Does anyone know if it's possible to get timidity to run as a daemon?
[02:52] <xwalk> Would anyone here know if there would be a better drive configuration for me to use? I currently have a very simple configuration between my 60 GB SSD and my 1 TB mechanical drive, where I have / on the SSD, and /home on the mechanical. Is there a better way for me to go about setting this up in order to increase I/O speeds?
[02:53] <Erin> xwalk, yes......
[02:53] <Erin> xwalk I bet you already know the answer.
[02:53] <ClientAlive> it's like a ghost town over in #eclipse; and, yeah, I am running ubuntu 12.04 - so here goes nothing...
[02:53] <ClientAlive>  I'm getting some error how do I fix it? I was watching eclipse/java youtube totorials and we were doing JUnit. There's a assertEquals() call and the guy in the vid does ctrl+1 and get's an options to select "add static import..." instead of that I only get the opstion to rename and if I hover over the assertEquals I get "void org.junit.Assert.assertEquals(Object expected, Object actual) Note: This element has no attached source and the
[02:53] <ClientAlive> Javadoc could not be found in the attached Javadoc.". Is there an easy way to fix it?
[02:54] <bulletrulz> do u guys know how i can get a global menu in zubuntu
[02:54] <phunyguy> bulletrulz: do you mean Xubuntu?
[02:54] <dr_willis> bulletrulz:  xubuntu? most likely you cant
[02:55] <Staiden> on 12.04.01 server we are having a problem getting samba 4 package to install, we are needing it for zentyal. it kinda looks like it might be having a problem writing over samba 2? we did sudo apt-get remove --purge samba, then did a fresh install of samba it gave us the same error
[02:55] <xwalk> Erin: Just getting another SSD?
[02:55] <phunyguy> dr_willis, bulletrulz, there is a third party repo or package that is most likely not supported here
[02:55] <phunyguy> I looked into the same thing
[02:55] <scalability-junk> i'm trying to get ubuntu working with my kickstart file, but can it be that /tmp isn't used with ubuntu?
[02:56] <scalability-junk> I was writing a tmp/stuff via the %pre script, but it couldn't be found later in the installation...
[02:56] <bulletrulz> well has anybody got it before?
[02:56] <phunyguy> bulletrulz: it is not supported.
[02:57] <Erin> xwalk, cant you put /home on your ssd and just store music/movies other big files on the 1TB ?
[02:57] <bulletrulz> whats so hard about it
[02:57] <dr_willis> i got a /tmp here
[02:58] <Ycarene> are the update servers down?
[02:58] <bulletrulz> :D
[02:58] <xwalk> Erin: I wouldn't be too sure. I don't know much about partitioning and how the filesystem is read from those.
[02:58] <bulletrulz> D:
[02:59] <phunyguy> bulletrulz: it doesnt matter if it is hard or not.  Third party repos are not supported.
[02:59] <xwalk> Erin: "Those" being the partitions.
[02:59] <bulletrulz> D: fuck u lol
[02:59] <bulletrulz> jk
[02:59] <bulletrulz> D:
[03:00] <phunyguy> ugh...
[03:00] <Erin> xwalk, id boot from a live usb, move the /home folder to a new partition on the ssd and simply edit /etc/fstab to reflect the changes
[03:00] <dr_willis> !movehome
[03:01] <Kireji> how do I enable the dealine scheduler
[03:01] <Ycarene> I wonder if it would be possible for application designers to distribute their applications as bootable vmware/virtualbox images to make the applications OS agnostic.
[03:02] <dr_willis> Ycarene:  i recall some vmware-appliances page ages ago
[03:03] <dr_willis> a customized live cd could do that also
[03:03] <puff> Yeesh, wtf... doing the upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04, now it's telling me 3 hours remaining...
[03:03] <IdleOne> devon: good now?
[03:04] <dr_willis> puff ;)  one of the many reasons i always clean install
[03:04] <devon> Still no
[03:04] <devon> Oh wait, now it works. THanks!
[03:04] <IdleOne> cool
[03:04] <Ycarene> I think that software companies, especially game designers could reach a larger audience if they made a "bootable" game that was designed to boot into a virtual machine.
[03:04] <puff> dr_willis: I don't remember it taking quite so long, dang.
[03:05] <puff> dr_willis: Also, I'd clean install but then it's a huge pain to get data & etc migrated over.
[03:05] <devon> Anyways! Before my brain had a lapse of insanity, my system is saying cryptswap: evms_activate is unavailable. Rebooting does nothing, and after a short period of time it goes to busybox
[03:05] <Zael> or they could just get over it and use OpenGL
[03:05] <devon> What do I do, how do I bypass this?
[03:05] <danny> im reading the linux command line and im learning about storage media but for the life of me i cannot get into /etc/fstab does this not exist in ubuntu because in the example he is showing he is on fedora
[03:06] <danny> and if it doesnt exist in ubuntu what would be the ubuntu equivelant
[03:06] <abdostar> I have few fonts in a folder, does any one know how can I install those fonts?
[03:06] <devon> I'm in a shell, BusyBox v1.19.3, what is this?
[03:07] <Zael> danny: it very much exists.. are you using sudo?
[03:07] <Conmore> Hi, I'm having a problem with Wubi. Wubi, and when I select the boot menu selection, it goes straight to Windows
[03:07] <Altair> I have one backup of my HDD and I know my password. Is it going to be okay if I lose all my data on one of the drives but have that backup image? Or is it going to be corrupted/unuseable because the data was encrypted?I have one backup of my HDD and I know my password. Is it going to be okay if I lose all my data on one of the drives but have that backup image? Or is it going to be corrupted/unuseable because the data was encrypted?
[03:07] <Kireji> can I add the line defoptions=elevator=deadline to /boot/grub/menu.lst and reboot?  will this change the scheduler?
[03:07] <danny> Zael: yes  i use this command sudo /etc/fstab
[03:07] <Altair> Sorry everyone.
[03:08] <Altair> That was unintended
[03:08] <Zael> danny: try sudo nano /etc/fstab
[03:09] <Guest3577> does anybody know why smlnj, a sml compiler is not in precise repo, it was in lucid repo
[03:09] <danny> Zael: ok that worked but now im in a program what is nano ? havnt learned about this
[03:09] <read> I installed ubuntu multiple time on my macbook pro and everytime the computer freezes for no reason. If anyone could help I'll greatly appreciate it
[03:09] <Zael> nano is a command line editor, you might also try leafpad for a gui application
[03:09] <danny> Zael: so same as vim because that is what this book has been using recently
[03:10] <MrE> Does anyone here have a link to setting up encrypted partitions manually with lvm?
[03:10] <almoxarife> danny: simplify a bit, use a gui, from same terminal, gksu gedit /etc/fstab
[03:10] <Zael> yeah, simpler than vim i'd say
[03:11] <danny> Zael: why do i need to use an editor to get into this ?
[03:11] <Zael> because fstab is a text file
[03:12] <Altair>  Is it okay to use a backup image from an encrypted drive? Or will the image be corrupted because of the encryption?
[03:12] <min|dvir|us> danny: http://superuser.com/questions/346606/is-there-any-gui-tool-to-configure-etc-fstab
[03:12] <Zael> Altair: if you unencrypt it before restoring it
[03:12] <joosengee_> hi
[03:12] <escott> Altair, as long as you can decrypt it should be fine
[03:12] <danny> Zael: oh ha i feel dumb now ok well thanks for your help i think i see understand this now
[03:12] <min|dvir|us> Altair: the image won't be corrupted because of encryption. It may be corrupted by something else but not by encryption.
[03:13] <joosengee_> the ubuntu can work as windows os.
[03:13] <joosengee_> many software that can support.
[03:13] <Zael> o.O
[03:13] <joosengee_> the ubuntu os also.
[03:13] <joosengee_> like as windows or not/
[03:14] <almoxarife> !wine | joosengee_
[03:14] <seednode> Hey, who was I helping with a Perl/Apache2 issue?
[03:14] <seednode> My IRC DCed
[03:14] <Altair> Thanks guys. My confidence has been restored enough now to where I'm going to go mess around with my disk and see if I can learn some things without fear of losing data.
[03:15] <read> I installed ubuntu multiple time on my macbook pro and everytime the computer freezes for no reason. If anyone could help I'll greatly appreciate it
[03:16] <Zael> read: where does the freeze occur
[03:16] <almoxarife> read: pastebin /var/log/syslog and kern.log
[03:16] <read> it occurs after login
[03:17] <read> after installing
[03:17] <almoxarife> read: pastebin /var/log/syslog and kern.log while at it, throw in Xorg.0.log
[03:17] <read> it happens at different times each time
[03:17] <read> how I do that?
[03:17] <almoxarife> !pastebin
[03:18] <ActionParsnip> read: have you tested your RAM using memtestfrom grub?
[03:18] <dr_willis> if he can boot the installed system to get to any logs. ;)
[03:18] <Zael> he can use the live cd to get them
[03:19] <dr_willis> be a good test to see if the live cd crashes also
[03:19] <Zael> or command line at grub if it does crash
[03:19] <read> I haven't tested my ram but I tested that the intallation disk had no issues
[03:19] <read> I currently have ubuntu 12.10
[03:19] <read> 3.5
[03:19] <almoxarife> read: you are not using livecd presently, correct?
[03:20] <clunkychicken> is it 32 or 64?
[03:20] <min|dvir|us> Does anyone know if it's possible to get timidity to run as a daemon?
[03:20] <read> no, I used a usb
[03:20] <read> is 64 bit
[03:20] <clunkychicken> what year mbp?
[03:21] <read> so how would I be able to get the information you needed to be helped?
[03:22] <almoxarife> read: you are now booted from usb then?
[03:22] <tonesfrommars> Howdy! I'm installing 12.04.1 64bit from a usb flash drive. I want to run the OS from my 120GB solid state drive, but place my /home on a separate physical drive. Should I consider mounting any other directories on this slower physical drive (ie /var or /tmp) ?
[03:22] <read> besides the freezing when I try to login into ubuntu my os reboots back to the login screen in a loop
[03:23] <read> I am using another computer to be able to use this website
[03:23] <WeThePeople> how can i download a multipage thread using [1-110] in the command in curl
[03:24] <almoxarife> read: forget what i said previously
[03:24] <clunkychicken> read: did you use http://refit.sourceforge.net/
[03:25] <read> clunkychicken I just went to the ubuntu main channel http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[03:25] <clunkychicken> it sounds like grub is messing up then
[03:25] <read> clunkychicken then I just dowloaded into my computer used the terminal to convert it to img
[03:25] <clunkychicken> Check out rEFIt, its really easy to install and believe this will solve your issue
[03:26] <read> that's what I keep reading but i dont know how to fix it clunkychicken
[03:26] <almoxarife> read: you can get to the login menu when the machine boots?
[03:26] <read> yes almoxarife
[03:26] <clunkychicken> then its not grub
[03:26] <almoxarife> read: its not a grub issue then
[03:27] <almoxarife> read: do you have a livecd/usb you can use on the machine?
[03:27] <read> almoxarife so what could it be?
[03:27] <mnathani> whats the best way to close an X session in order to install graphic card drivers?
[03:27] <clunkychicken> read: what model/year is the macbook?
[03:28] <read> Mac os x version 10.6.8 clunkychicken
[03:28] <mnathani> read, I think clunkychicken means the Hardware version / year / model etc
[03:28] <xwalk> Erin: I seem to be having some trouble getting my machine to boot from USB; I'm assuming a live CD will suffice?
[03:29] <read> I bought the computer maybe 3 years ago clunkychicken
[03:30] <clunkychicken> so 2009 intel core duo 2 im guessing
[03:30] <read> I do have a usb I can use on the machine almoxarife
[03:30] <ftruzzi> hi, I have a radeon 6850 using fglx drivers, always when I boot I need to go to the catalyst center and reset the overscale to 0%, any ideas how to fix this?
[03:30] <almoxarife> read: do so, return here via the liveusb pls
[03:30] <read> I just nevered tried to installed a live version almoxarife
[03:30] <clunkychicken> ^^
[03:31] <almoxarife> read: how did you install buntu?
[03:31] <clunkychicken> maybe the bare bones install?
[03:32] <clunkychicken> As said, its highly suggested you do a live cd/usb install
[03:32] <read> almoxarife i just installed it by burning ubuntu 12.10 into my usb then converting to img. Restarted my computer and going into the ubuntu logo. Then proceeded with the installation
[03:33] <almoxarife> read: sounds like a liveusb, give it a try,
[03:33] <clunkychicken> does it crash when you log in
[03:33] <clunkychicken> or right at the login screen?
[03:33] <clunkychicken> like you proceed to enter in creds then crashes, or just hangs right at login form
[03:34] <read> right after I log in it just goes straight back to the login screen
[03:34] <Staiden> on 12.04.01 server we are having a problem getting samba 4 package to install, we are needing it for zentyal. it kinda looks like it might be having a problem writing over samba 2? we did sudo apt-get remove --purge samba, then did a fresh install of samba it gave us the same error
[03:35] <read> almoxarife so is using live usb as easy as installing it the way I did it. And would it change my current operating system?
[03:35] <almoxarife> read: the jist of this exercise is 'getting at the logs located at /var/log/ on the drive on the machine
[03:36] <read> almoxarife do you know a link that could help me guide me step by step to do this?
[03:36] <almoxarife> read: i cant see why it would change anything, that said, anything can happen i suppose
[03:36] <DaemonicApathy> read: When you installed, did you have two options - try + install?
[03:37] <almoxarife> read: the jist of this exercise is 'getting at the logs located at /var/log/ on the drive on the machine <-- find link that does this, review the logs, especially syslog kern.log and Xorg.0.log
[03:37] <read> DaemonicApathy yes, and I tried 3 options. I installed it regularly, I try installing as OEM, and I used try. Only OEM and installing it regularly gives me this problem
[03:38] <DaemonicApathy> Using Try is what they mean by LiveUSB - it should give you access to the filesystem to check the logs.
[03:38] <clunkychicken> read: Press CTRL+ALT+F1 and log in there and open a terminal and type sudo chown -R $USER:$USER $HOME, enter your password, Then press CTRL+ALT+F7 and try to log in
[03:39] <read> clunkychicken I could get a terminal by using CTL ALT t
[03:39] <clunkychicken> exactly
[03:39] <read> but CTL alt f1 doesn't do anything
[03:40] <clunkychicken> f1, t
[03:40] <clunkychicken> damn macs
[03:40] <read> clunkychicken lol, i know right
[03:41] <read> clunkychicken well I'm rebooting my system so I can try to login into it
[03:41] <clunkychicken> you chown the user?
[03:41] <DaemonicApathy> clunkychicken, Ctrl+Alt+T is the default shortcut to open a terminal on the desktop. You guys are talking about different types of CLI. ;-p
[03:41] <clunkychicken> :p
[03:42] <read> clunkychicken well remember that I can not get pass the login screen. SO, can i also do it by going to the advance ubuntu menu?
[03:42] <clunkychicken> you would run that in terminal
[03:42] <almoxarife> clunkychicken: before going into major surgery there, how about helping in getting the logs out, something simple like 'pastebinit'???
[03:42] <read> clunkychicken and using root menu?
[03:42] <clunkychicken> yeah
[03:43] <jiffe1> anyone run into issues where supermicro machines freeze on boot?
[03:43] <scalability-junk> I wanted to run -x /usr/sfdisk from within the ubuntu install, but it isn't found... not sure what I should do
[03:43] <mistaknly> For 12.10 lubuntu, is there a rdp Remote Desktop client without installing gnome or kde?
[03:43] <read> clunkychicken I'll see what I can do. THanks for helping me.
[03:44] <frankko> quick check, what is the gui app in unity to disable screensavers and screen dimming respectively
[03:44] <frankko> i have been searching like a fool
[03:44] <DaemonicApathy> system settings
[03:44] <ActionParsnip> mistaknly: rdesktop or tsclient for RDP
[03:45] <frankko> DaemonicApathy, no that is kde
[03:45] <mistaknly> thx
[03:45] <DaemonicApathy> frankko: System Settings should be the window title, "gnome-control-center" the command.
[03:47] <read> clunkychicken i am in the terminal now.
[03:47] <lukemorrison> frankko: You can type system settings in the dash and then click on brightness and lock
[03:47] <DaemonicApathy> Though last I checked, screensavers were controlled by separate software...
[03:47] <read> almoxirife I'm in the terminal now. how could I get the log you need?
[03:48] <clunkychicken> cd /var/log
[03:48] <frankko> DaemonicApathy, thank you
[03:48] <almoxarife> read: you are using the actual machine?
[03:48] <frankko> lukemorrison, thankyou to you as well
[03:48] <clunkychicken> yeah
[03:48] <DaemonicApathy> Any time, frankko.
[03:48] <SonikkuAmerica> I know it's not officially supported but is that why I can't use Wubi to install Ubuntu GNOME Remix?
[03:49] <frankko> damn language... i want to switch to en-gb
[03:49] <ActionParsnip> SonikkuAmerica: you can, just use wubi as normal then add the other stuff later
[03:49] <read> almoxarife, since I installed the system as OEM it allows me to report the error the computer has
[03:50] <frankko> nope the setting i need is not there either... what menace to process keeps dimming my screen?!
[03:50] <SonikkuAmerica> ActionParsnip: It won't let me do that (even if I start Wubi included with the virtually mounted ISO image). It just bullheadedly ignores the fact that the Ubuntu core files are within the ISO and downloads like it didn't exist
[03:50] <almoxarife> read: are you using the installed OS presently?
[03:50] <clunkychicken> almoxarife: yes he is
[03:50] <SonikkuAmerica> ActionParsnip: Oh wait...
[03:50] <ActionParsnip> SonikkuAmerica: i don't believe wubi can run in a mounted ISO
[03:51] <almoxarife> clunkychicken: mind if he answers the question?
[03:51] <clunkychicken> hes in terminal
[03:51] <ActionParsnip> SonikkuAmerica: you could just ditch wubi and do a proper install
[03:51] <SonikkuAmerica> ActionParsnip: You mean just use the command line to do it (I wish I could, I ran out of DVDs)
[03:51] <SonikkuAmerica> in Ubuntu
[03:51] <MiJyn> hi
[03:51] <read> almoxarife I am using ubuntu but i installed it using OEM which allows me to report problems in the system
[03:51] <SonikkuAmerica> OK
[03:51] <SonikkuAmerica> see ya
[03:51] <almoxarife> read: oem?
[03:52] <ActionParsnip> SonikkuAmerica: you can install any desktop / session etc in Wubi
[03:52] <ActionParsnip> oh well
[03:52] <icebalm> just installed 12.10, put in the nvidia drivers, compiz crashes?
[03:52] <almoxarife> read: ok, in terminal,  sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[03:52] <DaemonicApathy> almoxarife: "as of Ubuntu 8.04, the DVD contains an OEM installation mode, which can be found in the boot options."
[03:52] <read> almoxarife is that bad?
[03:52] <read> almoxarife that i am using oem?
[03:52] <almoxarife> read: ok, in terminal,  sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[03:53] <lukemorrison> frankko: Are you looking for a way to dim your screen on demand?
[03:53] <almoxarife> read: tell me when that is done
[03:54] <read> almoxarife yes, I will
[03:55] <frankko> lukemorrison, the other way around... to stop dimming while i watch movies
[03:55] <frankko> last time it was enough to remove all screensavers. it does not work now though
[03:56] <almoxarife> frankko: powersaving settings are dimming the screen?
[03:56] <mnathani> how do I get ubuntu to boot without any Graphical environment, but only for 1 boot
[03:56] <DaemonicApathy> frankko: Is the checkbox unchecked at 'System Settings > Brightness & Lock > Dim screen to save power' ?
[03:57] <ActionParsnip> mnathani: add the boot option: text
[03:57] <read> almoxarife I get this message "unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f all install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[03:57] <frankko> aaah the small secret link at hte bottom...
[03:57] <lukemorrison> frankko: Also, change Turn screen off when inactive for:  to never
[03:57] <frankko> ill see you in about 5 minutes..
[03:57] <DaemonicApathy> We'll be here.
[03:58] <read> almoxarife should I try 'apt-get -f all install' ?
[03:58] <almoxarife> read: do it, you must have crashed previous installs
[03:58] <almoxarife> read: yes with 'sudo' at the beginning of the line
[03:59] <read> almoxarife is loading now
[04:00] <read> almoxarife it ended by saying ldconfig deferred processing now taking place
[04:00] <read> almoxarife is that good?
[04:00] <DaemonicApathy> Now 'sudo apt-get install pastebinit', read.
[04:00] <almoxarife> read: next line >  sudo pastebinit /var/log/syslog
[04:01] <ActionParsnip> almoxarife: why sudo pastebinit?
[04:02] <almoxarife> ActionParsnip: var/log/syslog read only??? i dont know, so i dont sweat it if it is
[04:02] <almoxarife> ActionParsnip: i meant root only read
[04:02] <ActionParsnip> almoxarife: run:  cat  /var/log/syslog    as user ;)
[04:02] <almoxarife> ActionParsnip: feel free to help read... , thnks
[04:03] <Kireji> how do I configure by console which services run or not on 12.04?
[04:03] <read> almoxarife the website it ended with was 'http://past.ubuntu.com/1416152/
[04:03] <Kireji> specfically init.d services
[04:03] <almoxarife> read: next line >  sudo pastebinit /var/log/kern.log
[04:04] <almoxarife> ActionParsnip: i dont cat, i live simple, i dont even care for cli, KDE here
[04:04] <DaemonicApathy> almoxarife: The only point was sudo is not necessary.
[04:05] <read> almoxarife that website is 'http://paste.ubuntu.com/1416159/
[04:05] <almoxarife> DaemonicApathy: perhaps not,
[04:05] <almoxarife> read: next line >  sudo pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[04:06] <read> almoxarife i mispelled paste in the first website
[04:06] <almoxarife> this reminds me of meetings where the agenda becomes the agenda :)
[04:07] <almoxarife> read: put up the correct link, thnks
[04:07] <read> so it should had been 'http://paste.ubuntu.com/1416152/
[04:08] <almoxarife> read: cool, one last link then comming?
[04:08] <almoxarife> coming
[04:09] <read> the last link is 'http://paste.ubuntu.com/1416164/
[04:10] <almoxarife> read: thnks, lots of nicks are now ferreting thru those pastes, :)
[04:10] <mikodo> read, you follow directions well
[04:11] <read> almoxarife for some reason the ubuntu installation hasn't crashed but for some reason instead of prompting me to login at the beginning it just went straight to the gui
[04:11] <read> mikodo thanks
[04:11] <frankko> nope
[04:11] <almoxarife> read: pray to the great spirit that it stays that way
[04:12] <frankko> if i knew how long that actually was i might be able to hunt it down
[04:13] <read> almoxarife That's what i hope so I can't actually enjoy using ubuntu
[04:13] <DaemonicApathy> frankko: From your '5 minutes' message to 'nope', 14 minutes, 7 seconds.
[04:13] <frankko> almoxarife, Would it not have been better to advice of a aptitude install -Rf
[04:13] <almoxarife> frankko: for?
[04:13] <frankko> DaemonicApathy, DAMNIT
[04:14] <frankko> almoxarife, for read
[04:14] <almoxarife> read: what graphics card you have?
[04:14] <frankko> it might have worked, but might also have pulled an awful load of unneeded dependencies
[04:14] <Laibsch> Is it to be expected that a Ubuntu mainline kernel essentially does not work for a precise system? With it my mouse stops working, my wifi stops working and X runs at only 800x600.
[04:14] <almoxarife> frankko: for? to do what?
[04:14] <read> almoxarife I don't know, how can i find out?
[04:15] <frankko> almoxarife,   'apt-get -f all install' ?
[04:15] <clunkychicken> he has a 2009 macbook pro, its either a intel or nvidia chip, really depends on which model it is
[04:15] <clunkychicken> surely now he should beable to find out
[04:16] <frankko> ok we are talking macbooks, in very short: What was the problem?
[04:16] <almoxarife> frankko: if you want to argue with the error correction presented by ubuntu, sure, i dont, i had bigger fish to fry
[04:16] <xangua> Laibsch: you should stick to the kernel provided by your repositories
[04:16] <frankko> almoxarife, sorry, did not mean to offend you
[04:16] <read> almoxarife so this might take a while?
[04:16] <frankko> xangua, and also enable backports if you intend to run steam.
[04:17] <almoxarife> frankko: not offended, thnks, like a ducks rear buddy
[04:17] <DaemonicApathy> Command to check out graphics should be 'sudo lshw -c display', no?
[04:17] <Laibsch> xangua: you should not talk about things you don't understand.
[04:17] <almoxarife> read: yes
[04:17] <xangua> Laibsch: otherwise using a kernel from other sources either a repository or compiled yourself, you are on your own :)
[04:17] <Laibsch> xangua: mainline kernels are provided for a reason
[04:17] <xangua> Laibsch: for testing :) not for daily use
[04:17] <Laibsch> exactly
[04:17] <Laibsch> for testing
[04:18] <Laibsch> and that's what I want them for
[04:18] <Laibsch> where did I say I want them for daily use?
[04:18] <trism> Laibsch: mostly testing reasons, but in any case, kernels after quantal split out most of the modules into a separate -extra package, you must make sure to install that as well
[04:18] <almoxarife> read: you might also look at them pastes, simple method, use the webbrowser to find 'error' on page, usually that is not good, and you have a few on syslog
[04:18] <trism> Laibsch: sounds like your problem anyway, my keyboard and mouse don't work without them
[04:18] <Laibsch> trism: I see. Thank you.  I noticed the extra package but was unaware of the functions in there.
[04:19] <read> almoxarife why does this keep happening every time I install the system thought?
[04:19] <scalability-junk> what is the partition manager used in ubuntu 12.04 server within the console?
[04:20] <scalability-junk> I tried sfdisk, parted, fdisk...
[04:20] <scalability-junk> cd ..
[04:20] <read> almoxarife there are some updates I could still install on my computer but if I do I am afraid it may crash. Each time I tried to update the issues happened
[04:20] <almoxarife> read: you need to verify your memory is working correctly, do a memory test how ever you can do it easiest
[04:23] <read> almoxarife how can i check if my memory is working properly?
[04:23] <almoxarife> !memory
[04:24] <almoxarife> !ram
[04:24] <mikodo> read,  read this link to see if it might help too https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MemoryTest
[04:26] <scalability-junk> how can I install a package via the concole from cd?
[04:26] <scalability-junk> there is only udpkg available...
[04:26] <scalability-junk> and apt-install which isn't doing anything
[04:27] <xwalk_> scalability-junk: 'sudo apt-get remove <package>'
[04:27] <read> mikodo i'll do that
[04:27] <DaemonicApathy> scalability-junk: sudo apt-cdrom add ; sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install foo
[04:27] <xwalk_> scalability-junk: Oh, sorry. You want to install a package.
[04:27] <ActionParsnip> scalability-junk: sudo apt-get update     first
[04:28]  * xwalk_ goes back to his corner.
[04:28] <scalability-junk> no apt-get no apt-cdrom available
[04:28] <scalability-junk> I'm sort of pre install right now :)
[04:28] <scalability-junk> ls
[04:29] <DaemonicApathy> Ahh, ok. Meh. :-/
[04:29] <almoxarife> read: does it seem like all the issues revolve around graphics?
[04:30] <read> mikodo i don't have that option 'Ubuntu, memtest86+'
[04:30] <read> almoxarife yes,
[04:30] <ActionParsnip> read: or anything similar?
[04:31] <almoxarife> read: you would see the memtest at bootup on the grub menu
[04:31] <read> almoxarife the computer just freezes and I can't move the mouse. Sometimes no applications are shown. other times I am just booted to a command prompt
[04:32] <read> it just depends on the installation. In every installation the problem is that the computer freezes either while trying to install it or right after installing it
[04:32] <almoxarife> read: if that were my machine i would install the nvidia drivers from ubuntu store, or via the 'additional drivers'
[04:32] <scalability-junk> so anyone has an idea how to install something from cdrom when in console from the install thingie :D
[04:33] <almoxarife> read: [drm] nouveau <-- crashed alot, graphics driver
[04:33] <read> almoxarife: i did installed the nvidia driver in a previous installation but that made it so that the next time I logged in the computed booted me to a command prompt
[04:34] <clunkychicken> read: open up a terminal and type in sudo dmidecode -s system-product-name
[04:35] <almoxarife> read: in terminal                   lsbpci | pastebinit    <-- copy paste that to terminal
[04:35] <read> btw the only options i have at GNU GRUB version 2.00-7ubuntu11 is 'ubuntu, advanced options for ubuntu, mac OS X 32 bits and the 64 bits on /dev/sda2
[04:35] <scalability-junk> yeah got it I think
[04:35] <almoxarife> read: advanced should list 'memtest'
[04:36] <almoxarife> read: how did you install the nvidia driver? what method?
[04:37] <read> almoxarife when i go there I have two option one is safe mode and the other is ubuntu, with linux 3.5.0-17-generic
[04:37] <almoxarife> read: ok, nevermind
[04:37] <almoxarife> read: how did you install the nvidia driver? what method?
[04:37] <WeThePeople> anybody know how to install windows xp on the 3rd partition?
[04:37] <read> almoxarife: i used the 'sudo apt-get nvidia-current' i think
[04:38] <WeThePeople> i have precise and backtrack on the first 2
[04:38] <read> almoxarife so which option should i choose to do the memory test?
[04:38] <almoxarife> read: in terminal                   lsbpci | pastebinit    <-- copy paste that to terminal  <-- did you get a link
[04:39] <mnathani> I tried apt-get install nvidia-current to install the graphic driver for my macbook pro but whenI rebooted, the system stopped responding till I removed the driver. How do I install the right driver for my system? It is a Macbookpro 13 inch mid 2010 model
[04:40] <almoxarife> read: its a mac? in bios menu? does it have one? nevermind what i said about memory, all the issues seem to revolve around the graphics driver
[04:40] <almoxarife> read: you are not using the machine in question to chat here are you?
[04:40] <read> almoxarife: ok so i'll boot back to the system and hopefully it doesn't crash on login. wish me luck
[04:41] <read> almoxarife: no, I am using another computer
[04:41] <CowboiBebop> Is there a way to align sd[ab]2 without touching/deleting sd[ab]1? I currently have '/' in RAID1 (/dev/md1), and wanting to make '/home' RAID0 (/dev/md2) - but getting 'alignment offset by 3584' error when installing ext4 on /dev/md2
[04:41] <almoxarife> read: boot back? where did the logs you pasted come from?
[04:42] <read> almoxarife: the logs came directly from the ubuntu computer. I just simply typed the website
[04:42] <read> almoxarife; using this computer
[04:43] <almoxarife> read: ok
[04:43] <puppy_parade> doed a raid card need a linux driver if I use it for pass-through and software raid?
[04:44] <almoxarife> ActionParsnip: did you look at the pastes from read? what would you recommend?
[04:44] <read> almoxarife: well the system is not crashing right now for some miracle. I hope it stays this way. Does it have to do with any of the commands I u told me to execute?
[04:44] <almoxarife> read: nope
[04:45] <almoxarife> read: i had you install a util, you did do the apt-get -f thing, something load that was not there before?
[04:45] <read> almoxarife: i'm going to try to update and upgrade my system. In all previous installation the computer crashed after I did this as well. Hopefully I get lucky now
[04:45] <almoxarife> read: good luck :)
[04:46] <lauratika> how can i change the mtu in ubuntu via terminal
[04:46] <percent20> anyone have a link, by chance, to a tutorial that shows how to configure smb.conf to have a public read write share?
[04:46] <percent20> can't seem to get the public write working.
[04:48] <seednode> Alright, so...
[04:48] <klync> lauratika: /etc/sysctl.conf, man sysctl, /proc/sys/net.... I think
[04:48] <read> almoxarife does installing nvidia causes any issues to the computer?
[04:49] <lauratika> Maximum Transmission Unit
[04:50] <klync> percent20: prob easiest to use "force group" to keep unix perms in line with smb users
[04:50] <percent20> klync: okay, i'll look that up
[04:50] <almoxarife> read: i have a nvidia card , install via 'nvidia-current' was simple enough
[04:51] <read> almoxarife: u used the command 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-current'
[04:52] <almoxarife> read: simpler, i use 'synaptic', i really hate cli
[04:52] <percent20> klync: thank you, that worked like a charm
[04:53] <almoxarife> read: i use KDE, its a gui-life for me
[04:53] <read> almoxarife: lol, that's funny bc u gave me all those commands so i figured u liked cli
[04:53] <percent20> almoxarife: I used to be like that now I find GUI's get the way more often than not, took me years to get their though.
[04:53] <percent20> lol
[04:54]  * DaemonicApathy uses keyboard shortcuts for most things.
[04:55] <almoxarife> read: no, dont like it, its useful though, trouble with help here is that drilling down thru menus becomes a big headache
[04:55] <percent20> I would actually go so far as to use mutt for all my email if I offlineimap wouldn't stop breaking :(
[04:55] <cristianrm650> alguien que hable español :D
[04:55] <klync> percent20: sweet
[04:55] <DaemonicApathy> !es | cristianrm650
[04:56] <almoxarife> percent20: i rode ox cart as a child, i dont appreciate simplicity so much now, but, to each his own
[04:57] <read> almoxarife: that's true
[04:57] <almoxarife> percent20: i use kmail via kcontact
[04:58] <read> cristianrm650 si pero no se programmar
[04:59] <read> almoxarife: well, i'll be back tomorrow if i get this problem. Thanks for all the help.
[05:00] <almoxarife> read: you need to pay attention to the logs, they are your friend
[05:01] <mnathani> how do i install kernel source /headers on 12.10 64bit
[05:01] <read> almoxarife: yeah but I don't know how to resolved them. Can you point out to me some issues u notice by reading them?
[05:01] <almoxarife> mnathani: for headers, install 'linux-headers-generic'
[05:02] <read> almoxarife: actually I think i know what ur referring to
[05:02] <almoxarife> read: yes, 'google' in your language of choice, use chrome, it translates
[05:03] <read> you mean messages like: "[    20.959] (EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0) "
[05:03] <CowboiBebop> Is there a way to align sd[ab]2 without touching/deleting sd[ab]1? I currently have '/' in RAID1 (/dev/md1), and wanting to make '/home' RAID0 (/dev/md2) - but getting 'alignment offset by 3584' error when installing ext4 on /dev/md2
[05:03] <almoxarife> read: that one and 'dnsmasq' one too, not sure why it was there
[05:03] <lauratika> i have issues watching certain videos using openvpn any ideas what can be the issue?
[05:03] <read> almoxarife: you mean messages like: "[    20.959] (EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0) "
[05:04] <almoxarife> read: yes
[05:05] <read> almoxarife: oh, ok. Well, thanks for introducing me to pastebin because now I will go through each problem one by one and see if I can fix it by reading google answers
[05:05] <almoxarife> read: good luck, hasta
[05:06] <read> almoxarife: thanks and good night
[05:07] <ActionParsnip> lauratika: issues like what?
[05:09] <lauratika> issues as the video not playing in any browser
[05:09] <lauratika> certain webpages only, weird issue i guess...
[05:11] <almoxarife> lauratika: noticed the same thing with rekonq for a few days
[05:11] <ActionParsnip> lauratika: oh, you are accessing youtube over a vpn?
[05:11] <RickZilla> How can I get something on the desktop to be visible across all workspaces?
[05:12] <lauratika> yes, well youtube works fine, but othe pages not.
[05:12] <ActionParsnip> lauratika: is it ok if you don't use the VPN, or is the VPN 100% necvessary to get web access?
[05:13] <lauratika> yep, to watch content out of the country.
[05:13] <ActionParsnip> lauratika: i see, but do video pages work ok without the vpn
[05:14] <lauratika> yes, they work fine...
[05:14] <RickZilla> Running 12.10, How can I get something on the desktop to be visible across all workspaces?
[05:15] <SaidKLE> @RickZilla: for icons and files, that is the default behavior.  For windows, right-click on the title bar and select the option that says "visible on all workspaces".
[05:16] <SaidKLE> "always on visible workspace"  Sorry.
[05:16] <ActionParsnip> lauratika: ok, what messages do you get when using the vpn?
[05:17] <RickZilla> Thanks SaidKLE, I'll check that out
[05:17] <ActionParsnip> lauratika: have you tried a different browser|?
[05:17] <lauratika> different brosers, not messages... you mean messages on terminal??
[05:18] <ActionParsnip> lauratika: yes, try different browsers on the same sites, do they act differently
[05:18] <Jeremy3D> how do i find out what distro i'm using?
[05:19] <ActionParsnip> Jeremy3D: cat /etc/issue
[05:19] <lauratika> yes i try on different browsers 3 of them same result...
[05:20] <Jeremy3D> ActionParsnip, glibc2.7 or glibc2.11 ?
[05:21] <Jeremy3D> how do i find out what glibc i'm using?
[05:22] <vijay_> hello every one...
[05:22] <RickZilla> Hmmm...that doesn't seem to work. I right click on the title bar and select "always on visible workspace", close it, then when I open the file again, "only on this workspace" is selected. Is that a bug or am I doing something wrong?
[05:23] <SaidKLE> @Jeremy3D: graphical way is to look up linux-libc-dev in your package manager and check the version there.  Mine says 3.5.0-19.30
[05:25] <joshtran2> I need help, in gnome 3 my window controls are on the right and in the wrong order but going into gconf-editor and changing it doesn't work
[05:25] <ActionParsnip> Jeremy3D: let me check
[05:26] <ActionParsnip> Jeremy3D: ldd --version | grep -i glibc
[05:27] <Jeremy3D> got it ActionParsnip ty
[05:28] <ejv> puppy_parade: yes, you'll need the proper raid card driver compiled into the kernel or loaded via module, either way driver is necessary
[05:33] <mnathani> While attempting to load a proprietary Nvidia driver, my icons and launcher no longer show up on the Desktop. How can I fix this?
[05:36] <heoyea> unity --replace
[05:39] <ActionParsnip> mnathani: if you run:  nvidia-settings    does it say the driver is loaded
[05:39] <yamil> hello
[05:39] <yamil> digo hola
[05:54] <CnetCOM> Is Ubuntu becoming an inactive OS I try the 12.10 for my review and has more bugs than is worth it wireless is not working and it crashes a lot does anyone know if they are going bye bye since mint is top dog now with Mageia?
[05:54] <danny> i am attempting to get into my /var/log/messages using this command sudo tail -f /var/log/messages am i doing it wrong ?
[05:54] <ActionParsnip> CnetCOM: how do you get that mint is 'top dog' (whatever that means)
[05:55] <ActionParsnip> CnetCOM: if you want solid then use Precise. Its supported long after Quantal is EOL
[05:55] <djustice> ubuntu (canonical) is a corporation. a product. not a linux. come to the archlinux/chakra side. we have cookies. and simplicity.
[05:55] <crimsonmane> danny: i think it's "dmesg" not "messages"
[05:55] <ActionParsnip> djustice: ubuntu holds hands more, people like that more than cookies
[05:56]  * kvothetech sucks harder on you and 
[05:56] <CnetCOM> Well Mint is far more stable reliable and popular so and Ubuntu has gotten worse is Canonical pulling the plug?
[05:57] <ActionParsnip> CnetCOM: not at all, also you'll find mint will probably die if ubuntu ceased
[05:57] <djustice> ubuntu causes the need for hand holding.
[05:57] <djustice> over complexity will kill both projects.
[05:57] <djustice> "do one job, and do it well."
[05:58] <DrManhattan> what is the benefit to using ubuntu over something like Gentoo?
[05:58] <CnetCOM> I heard Mint will go its own way now so how will they dies if ubuntu keeps releasing half done OSs
[05:58] <danny> crimsonmane:  i connected a usb flashdrive and nothing came up
[05:58] <djustice> DrManhattan: quicker reinstall when you break something.
[05:58] <ActionParsnip> CnetCOM: if you don't like ubuntu, don't use it. I'm not seeing your point in any of this apart from Ubuntu bashing, which at best is pointless
[05:58] <djustice> DrManhattan: much the same as chakra vs archlinux.
[05:58] <CnetCOM> i need the juicy stuff to write my review...
[05:58] <DrManhattan> CnetCOM, ActionParsnip has a good going
[05:59] <crimsonmane> danny: meh. i looked about a week ago and didn't find "messages". what is it you're looking for in there?
[05:59] <DrManhattan> good point
[05:59] <ActionParsnip> CnetCOM: how do you mean juicy stuff?
[05:59] <ActionParsnip> CnetCOM: you clearly dislike it so your review is not going to be objective any way, so why bother
[05:59] <DrManhattan> djustice, i've heard of arch, but never used it. Is it a distro one compiles as well?
[06:00] <danny> crimsonmane: im reading the linux command line and its teaching me about storage media and it says the kernel will notice the device i put in
[06:00]  * DrManhattan uses CnetCOM as a toilet
[06:00] <CnetCOM> I tried you OS and nothing works well is Canonical trying to get lazy developers so Ubuntu goes under?
[06:00] <djustice> juicy stuff: corporations care about corporations. they polarize their community into so called developmental poverty. it's stagnant. the package and maintainence process is too complex.
[06:00] <djustice> DrManhattan: it is.
[06:00] <ActionParsnip> CnetCOM: they are the same devs as always
[06:00] <crimsonmane> danny: "The Linux Command Line" ? i read that :) a good read. that's why i was looking for "messages" too!
[06:00] <djustice> danny: there should be a change under /dev/sdX
[06:00] <DrManhattan> djustice, shame there's not better backup solutions for linux.
[06:00] <DrManhattan> Clonezilla seems to be the best out there so far for lin
[06:01] <ActionParsnip> DrManhattan: I use a cron'd cp command. works well. You could even cron rsync
[06:01] <CnetCOM> no look at your issues on your blog there seem to be more issues now on this release than any other and its getting worse not better
[06:01] <almoxarife> crimsonmane: as in /var/log/messages ?
[06:01] <djustice> haha.
[06:01] <djustice> linux has no backup issue.
[06:01] <CnetCOM> there is more issues reported on 12.10 that any other ubuntu
[06:01] <DrManhattan> CnetCOM, please stop trolling.
[06:01] <ActionParsnip> CnetCOM: the new release isn't an LTS, so it will appear worse than the last release which was LTS. Think about it...
[06:01] <danny> djustice: /dev/sdX ? could u tell me what to do with that
[06:01] <djustice> facts tho.
[06:02] <CnetCOM> so is Canonical pulling funding ?
[06:02] <ActionParsnip> CnetCOM: not at all
[06:02] <djustice> danny: in 'konsole' type "ls /dev/sd*<enter>" before and after plugging in the device.
[06:02] <crimsonmane> djustice: he wants to see "in action" the kernel recognize the device inserted
[06:02] <djustice> CnetCOM: i'd wager so. they have to keep afloat.
[06:02] <CnetCOM> I think they are why would your release get worse and worse if they are not planing on dumping Ubuntu?
[06:03] <ActionParsnip> CnetCOM: look, this is going nowhere and you don't know what you are taling about.
[06:03] <ActionParsnip> !ops
[06:03] <almoxarife> CnetCOM: i am sure #ubuntu-dev would be very interested in your brilliant ideas
[06:03] <DrManhattan> if this guy is with Cnet, my name is elmer J fudd and I have a mansion and a yacht
[06:03] <danny> djustice: well im trying to find out the <enter> part im pretty sure cause i have no idea were it is mounted
[06:04] <djustice> CnetCOM: people like community based linux better than corporation based linux.
[06:04] <IdleOne> !ot
[06:04] <djustice> danny: it may or may not automount.. if your interface has no indication, i suspect a borked filesystem or hardware..
[06:05] <CnetCOM> Well every release since 11.04 is getting worse and Corporations are not stupid they always do things for a reason and what would be Canonical's reasons for releasing poorly develop half done releases ?
[06:05] <djustice> yep. let's support ubuntu user's into -> simplicity. try chakra. ;)
[06:05] <ActionParsnip> CnetCOM: please just stop, get educated, then come back
[06:05] <Flannel> CnetCOM: Please stop this.  You've already been asked a number of times.
[06:06]  * DrManhattan pulls out a 2x4 wrapped with barbed wire
[06:06] <almoxarife> i hate ubuntu, let me in
[06:06] <Flannel> CnetCOM: this isn't the correct channel.  You can take it to the correct channel though.  This channel is for technical support.
[06:06] <DrManhattan> I kinda fell out of love with centos a few years back and gave them an earful on my way out too
[06:06] <CnetCOM> I review and report Canonical when asked walked away and said no comment
[06:06] <DrManhattan> maybe that's what cnet.fake is doing
[06:06] <CnetCOM> things that make you go hmmmm don't you think?
[06:07] <almoxarife> :)
[06:08] <shinji257> Hey guys.  I have a bit of an issue.  I'm hoping you can help.
[06:08] <ActionParsnip> Flannel: thanks
[06:08] <shinji257> I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 Server LTS and I'm trying to disable password authentication but for some reason the option isn't working.  I have no idea why.  Can you see if I overlooked something?
[06:08] <shinji257> http://pastebin.com/m5JUuFQV
[06:08] <shinji257> That's the config and lsb_release information.
[06:09] <almoxarife> shinji257: going to run a server without authentication?
[06:09] <mnathani> whats the ubuntu equivalent of /var/log/messages
[06:09] <shinji257> Without Password auth.  I'm using keys.
[06:10] <almoxarife> shinji257: got you,
[06:10] <mikodo> Elmer J Fudd :) DrManhattan ;
[06:10] <almoxarife> shinji257: did you also key the pastebin?
[06:10] <DrManhattan> :D
[06:10] <CnetCOM> Is Canonical's pulling out due to bad economic times?
[06:10] <almoxarife> hesssssssssss back
[06:10] <shinji257> ??? Not sure what you mean there almoxarife
[06:10] <DrManhattan> CnetCOM, the only think Canonical's pulling out of is your mom.
[06:11] <DrManhattan> thing
[06:11] <IdleOne> CnetCOM: You have already been told that this channel is for support, please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-discuss
[06:11] <DrManhattan> You gotta be kidding me
[06:11] <IdleOne> DrManhattan: ubottu sent you a message, read it please
[06:11] <DrManhattan> yeah, sure. I'll get right on that
[06:12] <Hausas> Linus Torvalds doesn't debug. His programs are always perfect.
[06:13] <mnathani> I am kind of stuck, I have an ubuntu deskop with only the mouse, no menus or desktop icons. What can I do to fix this?
[06:20] <dr_willis> it must be quiet time... ;)
[06:21] <usr13> mnathani: What DE are you using?
[06:21] <mnathani> 12.10
[06:21] <usr13> mnathani: Unity?
[06:21] <mnathani> not sure
[06:21] <mnathani> it was a stock install
[06:22] <ejo> mnathani: clean install, not upgrade?
[06:22] <mnathani> and then I tried installing a proprietary Nvidia driver
[06:22] <mnathani> it was working before the Nvidia driver failure
[06:22] <mnathani> Clean install
[06:22] <ejo> hardly need to ask, but have you rebooted or at least logged out/in since?
[06:22] <mnathani> yes, several times
[06:22] <ejo> mm
[06:22] <usr13> mnathani: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[06:22] <usr13> mnathani: several times what?
[06:23] <mnathani> rebooted several times
[06:23] <mnathani> xorg.conf does not exist in the X11 folder
[06:23] <usr13> What method did you use to install Nvidia drivers?
[06:24] <mnathani> I downloaded a binary for linux 64bit and my model
[06:24] <mnathani> from nvidia.com
[06:24] <dr_willis> you mean the .run driver?
[06:24] <mnathani> thats right
[06:24] <dr_willis> you did try the one in the repos first?
[06:24] <mnathani> I did
[06:25] <mnathani> nvidia-current I believe
[06:25] <mnathani> that didnt work, similar mouse with no icons issue
[06:25] <usr13> mnathani: Did you run nvidia-xconfig ?
[06:25] <mnathani> but it was easy to remove
[06:25] <mnathani> I did not
[06:25] <usr13> mnathani: SO try it.  sudo nvidia-xconfig
[06:26] <mnathani> I am doing: apt-get install nvidia-current
[06:26] <usr13> ok
[06:26] <dr_willis> mnathani:  is this a laptop with that dual gpu optimus stuff?
[06:26] <mnathani> no, its actually a macbookpro 2010 edition
[06:27] <mnathani> I believe the graphic card is integrated
[06:27] <dr_willis> well its in there somewhere.. if thats what you mean. ;)
[06:27] <mnathani> I mean as opposed to dedicated
[06:27] <dr_willis> not too many laptops have removeable gfx  (i have seen a few)
[06:28] <dr_willis> mnathani:  ive never seen a nvidia card that wasent dedicated.....
[06:28] <dr_willis> you sure it has a nvidia?
[06:28] <shinji257> Well something must of been weird with my configs or something with ssh before.  I had the system do a full purge of openssh-server then reinstall.  Went back in and disabled only PasswordAuthentication and it worked. o.O
[06:29] <mnathani> I ran nvidia-xconfig which said it generated an xorg.conf
[06:29] <mnathani> then reboot, and the resolution has changed, but still no menu or icons on the dekstop
[06:29] <shinji257> P.S. - ChallengeResponseAuthentication has to be disabled as well or PasswordAuthentication is overridden and it is allowed anyways.  Can't control that one in Match Groups though (which was my intent later on)
[06:30] <dr_willis> mnathani:  this is when i normally suggest installing lubuntu-desktop so the person at least has a useable system. untill they can figure out the nvidia/unity issues
[06:31] <dr_willis> i think the core of the issue is compiz is not seeing proper 3d support and is crashing. so no wm starts
[06:32] <mnathani> how can I disable compiz
[06:32] <dr_willis> mnathani:  install/use a different desktop.. like lubuntu-desktop
[06:32] <dr_willis> or some other wm/desktop
[06:33] <ActionParsnip> mnathani: if you are using Precise you can use Unity2D
[06:33] <dr_willis> compiz is supposed to fall back to some 2d mode, or somthing if the hardware is seen to not use 3d.  but tthats flakey at times
[06:34] <mnathani> I actually get to a desktop and can right click, but the icons and menu / launchers are missing
[06:34] <mnathani> installing lubuntu in the mean time
[06:34] <dr_willis> and thats what compiz controls.
[06:34] <dr_willis> you are seeing the 'x server' with  only a  partitial desktop
[06:35] <mnathani> The nvidia run file was expecting either 2.4 or 2.6 kernel
[06:35] <dr_willis> the core of unity runs as a compiz plugin. no compiz = most of the desktop not running
[06:35] <mnathani> I see
[06:35] <dr_willis> mnathani:  dont use the .run  drivers
[06:36] <mnathani> Perhaps it would be easier to start fresh and reinstall the OS?
[06:37] <mnathani> as it was working initially - just no 3d effects
[06:37] <z4139jq> why not uninstall the priority driver?
[06:37] <dr_willis> thats because compiz was using the fallback low-effect mode
[06:38] <dr_willis> thet .run driver has some sort of uninstaller i thought. i never use it
[06:39] <mnathani> apparently --uninstall
[06:39] <dr_willis> if you uninstall that .run thing and apt-get remove nvidia-current   i think it will go back to using the noveau drivers
[06:43] <mnathani> ok, did the remove and uninstall and rebooted
[06:43] <mnathani> I can see the launcher but the resolution is stuck at 640x480
[06:43] <psychopathic> http://ubuntuone.com/5z9Oo7NyqiRqK1FmW194x3
[06:43] <psychopathic> check it out
[06:44] <liqiang> wireless doesn't work on xubuntu which upgrade on ubuntu , so I have to use wire connection
[06:44] <dr_willis> run that monitors/display tool see if you can change res.
[06:45] <mnathani> I just did, its stuck at 640x480
[06:45] <mnathani> how do I go back and try Unity again?
[06:45] <dr_willis> you are using unity. you got a left side panel with ucons?
[06:46] <mnathani> yes, I did get a left panel with icons
[06:46] <Zeak> list
[06:46] <mnathani> what was I using before I switched to lubuntu-desktop
[06:46] <dr_willis> Zeak:  no warez lists here
[06:46] <Zeak> Oops, wrong window.
[06:47] <dr_willis> that would be unity.
[06:47] <dr_willis> you did select lubuntu at the login screen?
[06:47] <virus-design> hi dear fellows Just loving the Ubuntu experience. But one little help that i need i think i have messed up the partition table for ubuntu. As every thing is running perfectly but do i need to make two seperate partions for user and local user seperately? moreover i have a seperate harddisk with ntfs partition i want to share that on my network which contains both mac and windows. Can anyone help me out plzzzz...
[06:47] <Zeak> Hi! Someone can tell me how I can get the manpages-fr path in my computer?
[06:47] <mnathani> not sure as it is set to autologin
[06:48] <mnathani> can I somehow reinstall nouveau
[06:48] <dr_willis> mnathani:  turn off the silly atuologin....
[06:48] <dr_willis> its annoying. ;-)
[06:48] <virus-design> is there anyone around to help
[06:49] <dr_willis> !ntfs-3g | virus-design
[06:49] <babylon> #bookz
[06:49] <virus-design> can i  shrink the partion size of user and mont it on local user
[06:50] <dr_willis> you can use samba to share ntfs if its mounted  right..r
[06:50] <dr_willis> virus-design: your use of the terms user and local user us... confuseing
[06:51] <virus-design> actually in the file system partition
[06:51] <virus-design>  iam findind  a folder called user
[06:51] <dr_willis> you mean /usr/ ?
[06:52] <virus-design> yes
[06:52] <virus-design> which is showing 1.4 tb
[06:52] <dr_willis> thats not the same as   usEr
[06:53] <sail> how to get list of all packages that i hav installed in my ubuntu system?
[06:53] <dr_willis>  /usr/ is a system directory.   your users files are in their home dirs in /home/
[06:53] <dr_willis> !clone | sail
[06:53] <virus-design> ok so how do i share this 1.4 tb for both windows and Mac
[06:54] <[deXter]> Hi folks, what's a really easy to use photo manager that supports uploading to email, picasa and facebook?
[06:54] <rockworldmi> ipmessenger
[06:54] <dr_willis> virus-design: with samba after you mount it via ntfs-3g with proper permissions
[06:54] <rockworldmi> virus-design: ip messenger
[06:54] <sail> ubottu: actually i am doing minimal install now so i want the list of  packages my this ubuntu system so that i can apply my needed packages in minimal install
[06:55] <dr_willis> virus-design: or use scp/ssh to transfer files withiut a perment share
[06:55] <Shudorshon> :P
[06:56] <dr_willis> sail: use those commands to get a list. transfer the list over. install from the list
[06:57] <dr_willis> but this is not adviseable on a 64bit system to use aptitude
[06:58] <rockworldmi> anyone knows how to connect blackberry to Ubuntu laptop hotspot..
[06:58] <sail> dr_willis: that work smooth: dpkg --get-selections
[06:58] <zamboni> sail
[06:58] <zamboni> change your name, I want it
[06:59] <almoxarife> rockworldmi: setup sftpd on the lappy, use sftp client on the droid
[07:00] <rockworldmi> almoxarife:  not droid... Blackberry
[07:00] <takeit> zamboni: takeit
[07:00] <takeit> :)
[07:00] <almoxarife> rockworldmi: setup sftpd on the lappy, use sftp client on the droid-fruit-thing
[07:01] <rockworldmi> rockworldmi: but  can i use internet on BB ...  sftp would only allow me data sharing
[07:04] <mjrosenb> I have a machine that I just upgraded to 12.04, and when I try to log in, I get kicked back to the login manager
[07:04] <mjrosenb> where would the logs of that be kept?
[07:05] <psychopathic> money loves know one --> http://ubuntuone.com/2YtE876d8k6tenmiuD15Fb
[07:05] <tuxtoti> if i press "alt" i get a search bar with which i can search for commands in the menu bar of any application . 1) is there a way to disable it ? 2) remap the key to something else ?
[07:05] <rockworldmi> almoxarife: let me know links if you have one ..
[07:06] <almoxarife> mjrosenb: in /var/log/ , the file/log is 'auth.xx' or
[07:07] <almoxarife> rockworldmi: i dont have one, i am assuming your question is concerning the phone/pim thing, correct?
[07:07] <mjrosenb> almoxarife: that file just says that I logged in successfully.
[07:07] <mikekk91> ok, so Im trying to get java to work for my Zorin OS my goal is to eventually create a shortcut that will enable Java to run Minecraft for me. I have been tinkering with this for a couple of days but to no avail. Im brand new to linux but I can learn how to do it and am willing to be patient to do so.
[07:08] <rockworldmi> almoxarife:  my goal to use internet on Blackberry device making ubuntu laptop as hotspot wifi
[07:08] <rockworldmi> like internet sharing
[07:08] <xwalk_> Hopefully, this is the last time I have to relog.
[07:08] <bazhang> mikekk91, whats Zorin OS
[07:09] <mikekk91> well Zorin, which is a windows-like interface based off of ubuntu
[07:09] <bazhang> mikekk91, look for their support channel, it's not supported here
[07:09] <bazhang> !alis | mikekk91 have a search
[07:10] <mikekk91> ok, so I should be able to type in Zorin in the channels field and get some help?
[07:10] <crimsonmane> rockworldmi: i used blackberry as computer internet before. you're not "sharing" the internet because the phone acts as the modem, for starters. you call your service provider to get the credentials, basically the phone acts like an old-school modem and they give you the phone number you "dial"
[07:10] <bazhang> mikekk91, /msg alis list *zorin*
[07:11] <almoxarife> http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2011/08/linux-var-log-files/ mjrosenb... look at item 13
[07:11] <mikekk91> ok, thank you!
[07:11] <rockworldmi> crimsonmane: hmm.. so i need to contact my provider for setting it up..?
[07:11] <crimsonmane> yes, but they might not support linux, even though it's incredibly simple to set up and similar to windows.
[07:12] <psychopathic> check this out peeps -> http://ubuntuone.com/2YtE876d8k6tenmiuD15Fb
[07:12] <crazyhorse18> for a directory is there anyway of setting it up so that all subdirectories and files are created with u=rwx g=rwx and the user and the group is root?
[07:12] <mjrosenb> bash: /usr/bin/hal-find-by-property: No such file or directory
[07:12] <mjrosenb> that surely can't be good.
[07:12] <rockworldmi> crimsonmane: ok.
[07:12] <bazhang> psychopathic, what is that
[07:14] <psychopathic> crazyhorse18, chmod -R ug+rwx
[07:14] <aosp> how to create video dvd from vob files ?
[07:15] <crazyhorse18> psycopathic: i need to set it up.. and them have them as defaults.. i.e. without recursivly changing every file from after
[07:15] <crimsonmane> aosp: i use "devede"
[07:15] <crazyhorse18> crazyhorse18: i've spent 8 hours trying to find a solution that works... and i feel like it's almost impossible
[07:15] <bazhang> aosp, for play in a external dvd player? devede seems to be useful
[07:15] <crimsonmane> aosp: you create the iso, but devede is garbage for burning so use something else to burn the iso
[07:16] <dr_willis> devede works well. its not a burner aop. ;-)
[07:16] <mnathani> why doesnt the ubuntu desktop installed offer options to customize the install in terms of what packages to install etc?
[07:16] <dr_willis> app
[07:16] <bazhang> mnathani, you'd use the mini iso for that
[07:17] <Mkk91> ok, yes I was just here in regards for zorin, but since its ubuntu based, Im sure that ubuntu help could be what I need
[07:17] <aosp> crimsonmane: i do not have AUDIO_TS folder.. Just vob files. is that ok.
[07:17] <bazhang> Mkk91, no, its not supported here.
[07:17] <crimsonmane> aosp: it never complained about that to me before
[07:18] <Mkk91> ubuntu support is not supported here?
[07:18] <bazhang> Mkk91, zorin i s NOT ubuntu
[07:18] <aosp> crimsonmane: ok. i would try that now
[07:19] <Mkk91> ok, well theres no one in the Zorin channel and the guy who set me up with zorin told me to look under ubuntu
[07:20] <bazhang> Mkk91, you're not in their channel
[07:20] <almoxarife> Mkk91: zorin is what? kde? gnome?
[07:20] <bazhang> Mkk91, /join #zorinos
[07:20] <Mkk91> gnome I do believe
[07:20] <almoxarife> Mkk91: how about that channel then?
[07:21] <Mkk91> ok, let me try, Im not trying to be a burden, just trying to get to the correct place
[07:21] <bazhang> Mkk91, and that channel is the correct one, not here
[07:21] <bazhang> #zorinos
[07:21] <psychopathic> planet zelroid is full of geeks and hard workers.
[07:22] <ar9> i just issued an update && reboot command, anyway to cancel the reboot part?
[07:22] <bazhang> psychopathic, ?
[07:22] <almoxarife> psychopathic: you need some serious rest brother
[07:23] <psychopathic> it passes through 4 sectors in two vectors on planet velocity radian.
[07:24] <bazhang> !ot | psychopathic
[07:27] <Hausas> Linus Torvalds can play 3D games in his head by interpreting the source code in real-time.
[07:28] <Hausas> Linus Torvalds didn't design Linux to run on the 386. Intel designed the 386 to run Linux.
[07:28] <bazhang> Hausas, wrong channel
[07:28] <Hausas> ;[
[07:31] <mjo_> quit
[07:31] <mjrosenb> mjo_: /quit ?
[07:33] <mjo_> mjrosenb: ahh thanks :)
[07:33] <aosp> mjo_: :-)
[07:33] <psychopathic> Did you guys know i convert fractions to decimals ?
[07:34] <mjo_> think i'll go read the manual ..
[07:34] <IdleOne> psychopathic: ##math can help with that
[07:34] <psychopathic> ok
[07:39] <lwizardl> hello
[07:41] <lwizardl> I have been told that I could do this via cron job but I do not know to do it exactly. Everytime there is an update applied my headphone jack stops muting the internal speakers. So i have to reapply the "driver" for it. how can I tell my system that anytime apt-get updates are applied to also install this deb package again?
[07:41] <Eagleman> How do i restart the ssh server?
[07:42] <Eagleman> How do i restart the ssh server?  /etc/init.d/sshd does not work and i dont think /etc/init.d/ssh restart did anything usefull
[07:43] <izx> Eagleman: try service sshd restart
[07:44] <Eagleman> as suspected:  sshd: unrecognized service
[07:44] <psychopathic> anyone here like iptables -> http://ubuntuone.com/3T0m9y3FmKCod3bY5oAZHr
[07:44] <bazhang> psychopathic, stop posting random stuff here
[07:44] <almoxarife> Eagleman: drop the 'd' from sshd
[07:44] <mjrosenb> is it possible to run a script before the login manager starts?
[07:44] <mehwork> how do you install ncurses on ubuntu 12? I installed libncurses5-dev but compiling a program that uses them still errors saying that 'mvprintw', etc are undefined
[07:44] <Eagleman> Well next question, i want to use X11 forwarding for virt-manager but i cant seem to get it working
[07:45] <psychopathic> bazhang, It relates to ubuntu better yet even more.
[07:45] <bazhang> psychopathic, dont do it.
[07:45] <Eagleman> i installed xming under windows and enabled x11 under putty, then typing virt-manager in puty does not do anything
[07:46] <psychopathic> bazhang, Newbies need a firewall too.
[07:46] <ibenjmoore> hi
[07:47] <mjrosenb> mehwork: you probably want the wide variant of ncurses
[07:47] <mjrosenb> mehwork: libncursesw5-dev
[07:50] <mehwork> mjrosenb: that's not working for me either
[07:50] <mehwork> mjrosenb: does it have to be linked differently than gcc -lncurses?
[07:51] <mjrosenb> -lncursesw most likely.
[07:51] <mehwork> didnt work
[07:52] <mehwork> ncurses is pretty popular, i'm surprised that this stuff doesn't work anymore
[07:53] <mjrosenb> mehwork: what error did it give you when you tried with -lncursesw ?
[07:53] <mehwork> mjrosenb: the smae ones
[07:53] <mehwork> 'undefined reference to mwprintw', etc
[07:53] <Eagleman> ow dear. i locked my self out of ssh, no idea how or why...
[07:54] <mehwork> collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit staus
[07:54] <mehwork> status
[07:58] <aaas> so if I create a live usb with persistence and apt-get install a package that package should still be installed upon reboot, no?
[07:58] <IdleOne> yes
[07:59] <sparklr> i get errors while fetching packages for mysql-server http://www.privatepaste.com/1dfd018b1d, can anyone help me out?
[07:59] <aaas> both pendrivelinux and usb-creator-gtk are not persistent after selecting a 1.5gig space on an 8 gig drive, anything else I have to do?
[08:05] <Smashing> hmm issue, i have ubuntu 12.10 installed on my htpc, i am in the process of setting it up
[08:05] <Smashing> i set XBMC to default session
[08:05] <Smashing> now it boots to a black screen
[08:05] <Eagleman> Well next question, i want to use X11 forwarding for virt-manager but i cant seem to get it working
[08:05] <Eagleman> i installed xming under windows and enabled x11 under putty, then typing virt-manager in puty does not do anything
[08:05] <crazyhorse18> is there a way to force that all sudirectories of a directory to have the group of the parent directory  i.e.
[08:05] <crazyhorse18> root /srv
[08:06] <crazyhorse18> mkdir /srv/bla  also ends up with group root    mkdir /srv/bla/bla  also ends up with group root (without chmoding it after)
[08:06] <TakeItEZ> crazyhorse18: set sgid on dir
[08:06] <Sunilbs1> Ho
[08:06] <Sunilbs1> Sorry Hi,
[08:07] <Sunilbs1> I have Dell Vostro 1450.
[08:07] <crazyhorse18> TakeItEz: i have .. but then as soon as subdir's are created they don't have sgid set any more
[08:07] <crazyhorse18> it's like you do chmod g+rwxs /bla   then mkdir /bla/bla works  but mkdir /bla/bla/bla doesn't
[08:07] <TakeItEZ> crazyhorse18: you'll need ACLs for that, i guess. sgid only inherits ownership, not permission
[08:08] <Smashing> i have auto login enabled, but something is fubar'd causing boot into blackness. is there a key i can press/hold during boot to force it to put me on login screen so i can select a different session?
[08:09] <Smashing> i've tried shift and esc, no luck
[08:09] <Sunilbs1> I am not able to install 11.* 12.* any os on my laptop its giving the 'Critical Temperature reached (84 C) Shut Down.
[08:09] <DogP> is it possible to apt-get a specific version of QT, or are you basically stuck with whatever version is current?
[08:09] <almoxarife> Smashing: will a reboot take you to the login ?
[08:10] <Smashing> no
[08:10] <crazyhorse18> TakeItEz: ahh yeah.. i suppose then i don't care about what group it is
[08:10] <Smashing> i am setting it up as htpc so i have it set to autologin
[08:10] <crazyhorse18> i.e. in basic unix file permissions
[08:10] <Smashing> i set default session to XBMC and now it boots into blackness
[08:10] <Thete> Is Amarok still good?
[08:10] <Thete> Or is there something better now?
[08:10] <bazhang> Thete, try it and see
[08:11] <almoxarife> Smashing: familiar with terminal?
[08:11] <bazhang> !players | Thete have a test
[08:11] <Thete> I've been using it, just curious if there's something out there that's better
[08:11] <Thete> Damn
[08:11] <Smashing> i am not scared of it
[08:11] <bazhang> Thete, better is  a loaded word
[08:11] <almoxarife> Smashing: me too
[08:11] <almoxarife> :)
[08:11] <Thete> I guess so
[08:11] <Smashing> i have a three way relation ship
[08:11] <bazhang> lighter? sure
[08:11] <Smashing> me, terminal, google
[08:12] <Smashing> i have no idea how to even get it to a terminal
[08:12] <Smashing> if i could get it to a terminal i could edit lightdm and put it back to ubuntu
[08:13] <almoxarife> Smashing: that part is easy, the question is where to make the adjustment to bring your box out of autologin
[08:14] <amartin> !codecs
[08:15] <Sunilbs1> 12.04 32 bit
[08:15] <Sunilbs1> can any one help me?
[08:15] <Thete> With what?
[08:16] <Sunilbs1> I am not able to install 11.* 12.* any os on my laptop its giving the 'Critical Temperature reached (84 C) Shut Down.
[08:16] <Smashing> almoxarife, ??
[08:18] <markovh> is there a way of making any user that logs in, attempting to mount their samba home directory from another server using the password they tried to login with? All i can find is stuff on mouting the whole /home or doing it with nfs or storing the passwords in a file to be used to mount it
[08:18] <almoxarife> Smashing: i use kde, although i have a htcp with xbmc autologin, give me a sec, i'll bring it up
[08:18] <markovh> via ssh
[08:19] <dr_willis> markovh:  samba has a special "home" share that can share the users home directory.
[08:19] <Thete> Sunilbs1: Does it overheat in other OS's
[08:19] <Thete> ?
[08:19] <Sunilbs1> I have dell vostro 1450. While booting live CD & while installing its getting Shutting Down
[08:19] <Sunilbs1> Message is 'Critical Temperature reached (84 C) Shut Down.
[08:20] <Sunilbs1> No
[08:20] <SerenE_SparK> ash
[08:20] <markovh> dr_willis: that's for the server though
[08:21] <markovh> dr_willis: i'm trying to find something that'll mount it using the ssh login. i'm assuming some module in pam
[08:22] <dr_willis> markovh:  hmm.. you mean rhe user sshs in then a share gets mounted when he logs un?
[08:23] <markovh> dr_willis: that's the one
[08:23] <markovh> dr_willis: but not just A share, their home directory
[08:23] <Sunilbs1> I have contacted to dell costumer care & Done diagnostic test there is no HW error.  Dell technical support person also told that the system temp. will be 70 to 85 C. till 95 C Its not an issue.
[08:23] <almoxarife> Smashing: i got an idea, hit cntr-alt-f1, login, then key, pkill xbmc , then cntr-alt-f7, that should have you on a login
[08:23] <Smashing> already tried that
[08:24] <Smashing> ctrl alt f1 does nothing
[08:24] <markovh> dr_willis: unfortunately with libpam-mount, it seems you can kind of do this but it relies on a config stored in the users home directory already (xml thing)
[08:24] <markovh> which can mount a sub directory for them
[08:24] <Thete> Sunilbs1: Well something sounds like it's causing it to overheat
[08:24] <dr_willis> having the users home on a samba share  has a potential for big issues. ;-)
[08:25] <markovh> dr_willis: sure but for now i need to do it
[08:25] <almoxarife> Smashing: at grub, drop down to terminal
[08:25] <Sunilbs1> No Issues with Win 7 & Ubuntu 10.04
[08:29] <Sunilbs1> I have installed 10.04 & Upgraded to 12.04. In 10.04 Does not had an issue. After upgrading to 12.04 again the same prob while booting 'Critical Temp. Reached 84. 84 C is Over heat for i3 processor, I don't think so.
[08:29] <Sunilbs1> I am able boot Normal Boot From Recovery mode. I have updated to 3.4 Kernel also still the same Prob.
[08:33] <Thete> I dunno, personally, I don't think I'd screw around with an i3
[08:35] <Sunilbs1> Thete : We are also fed up with i3 to install the OS 11.* & 12.* HP, Dell, Acer, Lenova
[08:36] <Sunilbs1> While booting or while login the laptop suddenly  gets shut down.
[08:36] <lcabreza> HELP! why is that my usb devices are not greyed out but when i select my active key sim its not being detected by my active client ?
[08:37] <Sunilbs1> Thete:  While booting or while login the laptop suddenly  gets shut down.
[08:37] <Thete> Sunilbs1: You've had that same problem on all those brands?
[08:38] <Sunilbs1> Yes
[08:39] <Sunilbs1> Thete: HP Lap. gets shut down while login. Dell Shuts down While booting. In rescue mode Both will work.
[08:39] <sparklr> i get errors while fetching packages for mysql-server http://www.privatepaste.com/1dfd018b1d, can anyone help me out?
[08:40] <amir__> hello
[08:42] <Sunilbs1> Thete: Is partition makes any prob...
[08:43] <Sunilbs1> Thete: Is windows partition makes any prob... I have running Win 7 64 bit. I am using Dual boot
[08:43] <sonne> greetings!
[08:44] <sonne> anyone knows what is the recommended way to update the video drivers on an LTS?
[08:44] <Sunilbs1> Thete : Ru thr?
[08:45] <Sunilbs1> Busy
[08:45] <nibbler__> sonne: sudo apt-get upgrade ?
[08:45] <Thete> Yes, but I don't have a solution for your issue
[08:46] <Thete> Could be some kind of kernel error, or lacking support for something
[08:46] <sonne> nibbler__, that would update the drivers to the latest release in LTS, but i need the latest vendor release
[08:46] <nibbler__> sonne: thats not recommended at all :p
[08:46] <sonne> maybe there is a ppa? or some kind of clean way that would let me avoid running the binary installer from nvidia?
[08:46] <jud> Things are a little complicated for me here. I just installed lubuntu 12.10 on another machine. I tried to set up an account with pidgin so I could get help on installing flash and firefox but after setting up the account and enabling it, a couple of seconds later, the enable box unchecks itself and it comes up with incorrect password under the buddy list?
[08:47] <nibbler__> sonne: if you have to, i'd suggest either generating the packages with the bin installer, or use checkinstall to generate packets and not just dump files in your fs
[08:47] <sonne> nibbler__, i'm trying to run Steam, it says it requires nvidia >= 305, while LTS ships 295... upgrading to that should be enough already :)
[08:47] <sonne> does the nvidia installer support generating proper ubuntu packages?
[08:47] <Guest21593> sdf
[08:48] <Guest21593> may some one help me? I have a question about ubuntu
[08:48] <aeon-ltd> Guest21593: go ahead
[08:49] <jud> Everything I try is a dead end...how did you guys figure this stuff out to begin with?
[08:49] <Sunilbs1> Kernel issue, 11.04, 11.10, 12.04 & 12.10 / 32 & 64 Bit all I have tried, Same error.. Its not able to make live boot also there also same error. I have Updated to 3.4 Kernel & Grub2.
[08:49] <sonne> ftr, i found the answer to my question: x-swat ppa
[08:50] <ms__> hi people! I'm on xubuntu12.04LTS, (my english isn't yet very good   ).... but,   all is ok with my xubuntu, but not this one
[08:51] <jud> I followed instructions for installing flash and firefox at forums, using terminal but I just get errors all the time
[08:51] <ms__> my background is blue and I can't change it? I already tried:"xfmw4 --settings", chnge in apparence, and right-click on it but all are :(
[08:51] <Sunilbs1> Thete : http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201104-7889/ this link is telling that the HW test has done successfully on Vostro 1450.
[08:51] <ms__> sos, sos!!
[08:52] <jud> Things are a little complicated for me here. I just installed lubuntu 12.10 on another machine. I tried to set up an account with pidgin so I could get help on installing flash and firefox but after setting up the account and enabling it, a couple of seconds later, the enable box unchecks itself and it comes up with incorrect password under the buddy list?
[08:52] <Sunilbs1> Thete: No solution:
[08:53] <jud> There's a ghost in the machine stopping me from doing stuff?
[08:53] <Thete> I have no idea
[08:53] <Sunilbs1> Thank you.
[08:54] <blackshirt> jud, ghost ?
[08:54] <Sunilbs1> Can any one help me about this Problem?
[08:55] <jud> Ok, one step at a time. Can someone help me set up an account with pidgin on on 12.10 lubuntu?
[08:55] <blackshirt> jud, you can do it ?
[08:56] <RadiumCat> hi, does anyone know of a good alternative to imagemagick for merging multiple jpgs into a single pdf? :)
[08:56] <jud> after setting up the account and enabling it, a couple of seconds later, the enable box unchecks itself and it comes up with incorrect password under the buddy list?
[08:56] <sparklr> i get errors while fetching packages for mysql-server http://www.privatepaste.com/1dfd018b1d, can anyone help me out?
[08:56] <blackshirt> sunilbs1,what the problem?
[08:57] <jud> blackshirt: A hint please? after setting up the account and enabling it, a couple of seconds later, the enable box unchecks itself and it comes up with incorrect password under the buddy list?
[08:57] <Sunilbs1> Hi Blackshirt: Do you have any idea about Critical Temperature reached () shutting down
[08:58] <ubuntu> ;P
[08:58] <RadiumCat> anyone? :)
[08:58] <Guest97459> yeah
[08:58] <RadiumCat> I know my question isn't ubuntu related but i was hoping someone here would know
[08:58] <Thete> Sunilbs1: BIOS current on all these machines?
[08:58] <thunkee> RadiumCat: libreoffice writer
[08:59] <Guest97459> hey maybe u know
[08:59] <RadiumCat> thunkee, it doesn't merge multiple jpgs into a single pdf, afaik ಠ_ಠ
[08:59] <Guest97459> i have problem with installation
[08:59] <Guest97459> ubuntu
[08:59] <Sunilbs1> Didn't get you
[08:59] <jud> I don't know where to start...how do learn this stuff?
[08:59] <puff> Evening.
[09:00] <Guest97459> When i format my hdd and instalation next restart- my screen are broke  for 1:!
[09:00] <Guest97459> 1:1
[09:01] <Sunilbs1> BS: What is Current ON
[09:01] <Sunilbs1> ?
[09:01] <jud> Things are a little complicated for me here. I just installed lubuntu 12.10 on another machine. I tried to set up an account with pidgin so I could get help on installing flash and firefox but after setting up the account and enabling it, a couple of seconds later, the enable box unchecks itself and it comes up with incorrect password under the buddy list?
[09:02] <puff> I upgraded my thinkpad t520 w/nvidia/optimus from 11.10 to 12.4 using the software updates dialog.  After several hours, the dialog said something like 27 minutes left.  Then it popped up a message about not being able to configure dmsetup.  Before I could fully read it, the screen went blank/black.  No GUI, no virtual terminals.  I let it sit for a couple hours more while I went out, in case it was still finishing those last 27
[09:02] <puff> minutes.
[09:02] <puff> When I got back, still blank, so I held down power button to force shutdown and reboot.  It says there's a crash report, there's a crash report icon on the menu bar, but clicking it doesn't do anything.  Software updates doesn't show any updates needed.  How do I check to see if something went wrong and needs to be fixed?
[09:03] <federated_life> I've been having mcelog report bad memory, but I think its soft-offlining of memory…where would I look for more info ?  Ive checked /sys/devices/system/memory/soft_offline_page but get an input/out error
[09:03] <federated_life> this is on a few 128-256 bare metal db boxes lately
[09:03] <federated_life> GB
[09:03] <Sunilbs1> Blackshirt: What is Current ON?
[09:03] <rajasri> hi. We are trying to install Hadoop in Ubuntu 12.10. Can anyone help us ? Thanks in advance.
[09:03] <Repox> Hi. I'm having a minor issue installing libqrencode manually. Doing ./configure tells me that "No package 'libpng' found". Trying to install libpng12-0, libpng3 or libpng12-dev doesn't solve the problem. Do you have any advice for me?
[09:05] <rajasri>  hi. We are trying to install Hadoop in Ubuntu 12.10. Can anyone help us ? Thanks in advance.
[09:06] <mobhero> hi, how to find data usage (upload / download statistics) from all computers on ubuntu?
[09:06] <rajasri> quit
[09:06] <jud> Just tried to create an account with pidgin. Only just created it! It tells me account disabled, incorrect password...so I create another account. same thing happens whether I get it to remember the password or not. Does anyone know what's going on here?
[09:06] <puff> jud: What's wrong with convert from imagemagick?  convert -compress jpeg *.jpg output.pdf
[09:07] <puff> jud: If the jpegs are from scans, there's gscan2pdf.
[09:07] <blackshirt> mobhero, you mean network monitoring program ?
[09:07] <mobhero> yes
[09:07] <Thete> jud: Incorrect password probably
[09:07] <puff> jud: For scripting, GD lib seems to be the popular alternative to imagemagick, dunno if GD has the same jpeg/pdf capabilities.
[09:07] <mobhero>  blackshirt: yes
[09:08] <jud> puff: I think you must be addressing someone else?
[09:08] <Thete> jud: What are you logging into with pidgin?
[09:08] <puff> jud: Sorry, yeah, that was for RadiumCat.
[09:08] <jud> AIM
[09:08] <Sunilbs1> Blackshirt : Help me?
[09:08] <jud> Thete: AIM?
[09:08] <Thete> Well, it's telling you the password is incorrect
[09:08] <Thete> That's what pidgin does when it has incorrect login info
[09:08] <Thete> could be the username
[09:09] <blackshirt> !nagios | mobhero
[09:09] <isuldor> I added some up ip addr add (and down) commands to my /etc/network/interfaces. How do I restart networking without rebooting so these take immediate effect? "restart networking" doesn't work, but rebooting does
[09:09] <blackshirt> mobhero, nagios was great for network monitoring
[09:10] <jud> Thete: Ok, so I should use a different protocol?
[09:10] <nibbler__> i'm running 12.10 - when i use something in fullscreen (totem, youtube etc) its still shows the menu bars, how could i change that?
[09:10] <blackshirt> sunilbs1, i dont know what is your problem
[09:10] <mobhero> blashirt: thanks, ill check for nagios.
[09:10] <nibbler__> mobhero, blackshirt: i'd recommend zabbix way over nagios/ncinga
[09:11] <TakeItEZ> mobhero: just for network in/out statistics, vnstat is easier
[09:11] <alinmear> hi all! i am using awesome wm and want to bind a bash script to a shortcut; does anybody know how to get this work? thx very much!!
[09:12] <mobhero> takeitEz: but i want to monitor all user network statics..
[09:12] <nibbler__> i'm running 12.10 - when i use something in fullscreen (totem, youtube etc) its still shows the menu bars, how could i change that? (running in gnome-classic, as i forgot to mention)
[09:13] <jud> Thete: it can't be wrong info, I just created it and did not even re-entre it
[09:13] <Sunilbs1> I am trying to install Ubuntu 12.04. While Installing or while boot the OS from the CD. I am getting error as 'Critical Temperature Reached (84 C) Shutting Down. This is the problem.
[09:13] <federated_life> alinmear:  man alias in your bash profile
[09:14] <nibbler__> Sunilbs1: who says that? ubuntu? bios? is your fan working well?
[09:14] <sparklr> i get errors while fetching packages for mysql-server http://www.privatepaste.com/1dfd018b1d, can anyone help me out???
[09:14] <alinmear> federated_life: pardon? didnt get the point mate;
[09:14] <Ben64> How can I add multiple ipv6 addresses without creating a ton of virtual interfaces?
[09:14] <Sunilbs1> Blackshirt: System is getting shutdown automatically this not happening with Win7 & Ubuntu 10.04
[09:15] <federated_life> alinmear:  just put your script in /bin if you want to execute it without the path
[09:15] <federated_life> or check the man page on alias if your going to edit your bash profile
[09:16] <Sunilbs1> Nibbler : Then why its Not Shutting in Win7 & Ubuntu 10.04
[09:17] <blackshirt> sunilbs1, check your log, gave you doing it ?
[09:17] <blackshirt> Sunilbs1, in what phase the system going to down ?
[09:17] <sparklr> i get errors while fetching packages for mysql-server http://www.privatepaste.com/1dfd018b1d, can anyone help me out???\
[09:17] <Sunilbs1> While Booting.
[09:18] <jud> Thete: in the accounts box, I click "add" then create account name and password and click save with "remember name and password" checked. Then at the bottom of the buddy list, it shows the account name and "incorrect password" what gives?
[09:18] <Sunilbs1> Not only in my Vastro-1450, Same issue in DV6-2150
[09:19] <jud> Does no-one know why, with pidgin on lubuntu 12.10, in the accounts box, I click "add" then create account name and password and click save with "remember name and password" checked. Then at the bottom of the buddy list, it shows the account name and "incorrect password"
[09:20] <alistair_l> in the latest linux kernel there is a module that looks like it enables ps2 memory card reading, but when installed this kernal wont boot of a flash drive, is there any way i can install just the module to the current kernel?
[09:20] <jud> ??
[09:20] <Sunilbs1> Thought might be Kernel issue so I have updated my kernel to 3.4 Generic pae...  Then also phasing the same proble.. I can only boot with Rescue mode
[09:20] <Sunilbs1> In both the laps.
[09:21] <mitchell_> Is there a update for Pidgin that might fix your issue?
[09:24] <jud> So you all just pretend to know stuff huh, maintaining a position of heuristic gurudom?
[09:25] <somsip> jud: provoke people into helping you. That's gonna work...
[09:25] <mitchell_> Im more of a windows user, im just mucking around with a HP netbook running ubuntu
[09:25] <mitchell_> I only know how to fix basic issues lol
[09:26] <alinmear> federated_life: hey mate, thx alot; havent thought about this way
[09:27] <Sunilbs1> Alinmear: No Solution?
[09:27] <mitchell_> Jud: have you tried to remove the Pudgin software and reinstall it?
[09:27] <jud> somsip:  it would seem that the solution is so obvious that I must be a complete nitwit?
[09:28] <somsip> jud: or no one here knows the solution. No need to be paranoid.
[09:28] <mitchell_> Jud: Make sure your date and time is correct, if it's not some server might not allow you to connect
[09:28] <notwist> jud: the "wrong account information" is probably a throwback that more generally means "server wont let you log in". Could be a million reasons. Also, drop the attitude.
[09:29] <jud> mitchell: thank you
[09:30] <mitchell_> No problem, I have no idea if it will help but it's worth a shot
[09:30] <jud> notwist: what might reason number one be?
[09:30] <Sunilbs1> Somsip / Mitchell : I am trying to install Ubuntu 11.* & 12. * I am getting the error as 'Critical Temperature Reached (84 C). Shutting Down.. Even same issue While I select "Try Ubuntu with CD'
[09:31] <Sunilbs1> You have any Idea
[09:31] <Sunilbs1> ?
[09:31] <notwist> jud: if it's AIM their servers might not accept connections from Pidgin. Maybe they have before but have recently started not accepting it. It's just a hypothetical situation but you should try logging in to an account you KNOW should work (verify it in AIMs own client) to see if logging in to any account works
[09:31] <somsip> Sunilbs1: please do not address issues to me unless I'm already helping you.
[09:31] <mitchell_> Sunilbs1: Have you dusted out your heatsink?
[09:31] <jud> notwist: how might you proceed to figure it out?
[09:32] <notwist> jud: you need to figure out if it's the account, the software or the connection thats failing. That means that you should replace the account, the software and the connection.
[09:32] <Sunilbs1> Mitchell : No-
[09:33] <mitchell_> Sunilbs1: Dust it out first, Also check your BIOS to make sure that the temperature is normal
[09:34] <mitchell_> Sunilbs1: If that does not work. Reset your BIOS to default settings and see if their is an BIOS update for your Motherboard
[09:34] <Sunilbs1> Mitchell: But there is no issue with Win 7 & Ubuntu 10.04. And the temperature shows 71 C
[09:35] <Sunilbs1> I had A02 Ver. of Bois Updated to A08. Same issue in both.
[09:35] <jud> notwist: ok, thanks, well maybe i should should check the connection settings before redoing stuff. The browser works fine. How would I check the connection settings in pidgin itself do you think?
[09:36] <mitchell_> Sunilbs1: 71c is too hot, is that in Fahrenheit or Celsius?
[09:36] <Sunilbs1> Celsius?
[09:36] <Sunilbs1> Its i3 Prcessor
[09:36] <mitchell_> By any chance are you using an AMD CPU?
[09:37] <mitchell_> 71c is far to warm for one of those
[09:37] <pertapa_rikudo> hahaha'
[09:37] <mitchell_> Should be about 35-40c, My i7 cpu runs about 37c
[09:38] <Sunilbs1> I have contacted dell cus. care. They told that its in normal condition.
[09:38] <notwist> jud: i just meant you could try another connection, if you have access to another connection or if you can ask a friend to try the same account
[09:38] <Sunilbs1> Core 0 : 42 C , Core 1 : 40 C
[09:39] <pertapa_rikudo> hacker
[09:40] <jud> notwist: you mean from a different machine?
[09:40] <mitchell_> Sunilbs1: Seems very unusual, I do know it should not be running at that temp. I would dust out the Heat Sink and CPU fan. Also replace the thermal paste on the CPU as their might be too much or too little applied. Here is a link on how to apply thermal paste: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/How-To-Correctly-Apply-Thermal-Paste/274
[09:41] <Sunilbs1> Thank you Mitchell. I do that.
[09:41] <mitchell_> Sunilbs1: Sorry i was a little slow to write back. Those temps seem fine. I would try those steps first.
[09:43] <jud> notwist; i just tried from this machine and the same thing happens so I guess that rules out connection?
[09:43] <jud> notwist: i just tried from this machine and the same thing happens so I guess that rules out connection?
[09:45] <jud> notwist: or installation?
[09:45] <mitchell_> Jud: Is this a MSN account or google talk? Does it allow you in, if you use their on line messaging system?
[09:45] <Sunilbs1> Mitchel : There is one more laptop DV6 2150. It has been installed Ubuntu 12.04. After booting in logging time it gets off.  In Vostro 10.04 is working fine not facing any problem. Why only with 11.* & 12.*
[09:46] <mitchell_> Sunilbs1: I don't understand what you mean by "logging time it gets off"
[09:48] <Sunilbs1> Sorry after getting the  'Log in' Screen.
[09:49] <jud> mitchell_: I'm currently talking to you via pidgin on an adjacent machine with karmic. the account has a different protocol, i've noticed. But i was wondering, what if the account i tried set up on the newer OS was already taken. would it always say that it was unavailable? I've tried a couple?
[09:49] <mitchell_> Sunilbs1: From what I understand your question is your HP laptop logs you off after you try to log in?
[09:50] <Sunilbs1> Yes
[09:51] <mitchell_> Jud: Do you have any proxy settings enabled in the settings? Also did you check your date, time and time zone?
[09:51] <Sunilbs1> Ok I will try to Cleanup fan & Apply the heat sink. I will let you know If i face the problem again. Bye
[09:53] <TakeItEZ> jud: either it is your account or it is already taken by someone else. you have to know what protocol (xmpp, icq, msn) and what username/password yours are
[09:54] <TakeItEZ> jud: pidgin is a multiprotocol messenger, so make sure to pick the correct settings when configuring the accounts
[09:54] <jud> mitchell_: I'll just try to figure that stuff out
[09:54] <peterrus> if I wanted to test the old 3.5.0-10 kernel
[09:55] <peterrus> where could I find it?
[09:55] <jud> TakeItEZ: how do I know what the correct settings are?
[09:55] <TakeItEZ> jud: you simply have to know it
[09:56] <jud> TakeItEZ: ? ..how would you figure it out?
[09:57] <TakeItEZ> jud: you're kidding? if you already have an account in a network like jabber, you _have to know_ your credentials
[09:57] <Fluor> Hi.
[09:57] <Fluor> Is there some way to boot the net-installer images in a 80x24 TEXT videomode?
[09:57] <jud> TakeItEZ: I don't have an account, I'm trying to set one up
[09:57] <mitchell_> Fluor: hey
[09:57] <Fluor> The kernel doesnt seem to accept 'nomodeset' and 'vga=normal'
[09:58] <TakeItEZ> jud: what network/protocol?
[10:00] <TakeItEZ> jud: not all protocols allow clients to create new accounts, like jabber/xmpp does. make sure to activate "register new account" in the settings-menu
[10:00] <mitchell_> Jud: I'm going to bed, As a last peace of advise, Try to remove Pudgin and reinstall it via the Ubuntu software center. TakeItEz seems to have the correct advise. Hope you get it sorted:)
[10:01] <Guest58602> How can I switch between hosts and Citrix on Ubuntu? Shift f2 doesn't work.
[10:01] <TakeItEZ> mitchell_: why should one reinstall a package just to create an account?
[10:01] <jud> TakeItEZ: I'm using a different account currently on a different machine. I don't know how it was set up. I'd like to set up a different account on a different machine with 12.10 freshly installed
[10:01] <jud> mitchell_:thanks, have a good sleep!
[10:03] <TakeItEZ> jud: an account for which network/protocol?
[10:03] <mitchell_> Takeitez, I must be tired, I thought he was trying to use the same account that is working on another computer on the computer he is trying to set it up on. If it was not allowing him to connect I just rambled some basics off
[10:03] <mitchell_> Jud: good luck :)
[10:04] <Sunilbs1> Mitchell: ?
[10:04] <jud> TakeItEZ: OK on the screen, I have buddy list and accounts
[10:04] <jud> mitchell_:tks!
[10:05] <TakeItEZ> jud: and if you "add an account" you'll be ask for the protocol this new account should use. so which do you want to use?
[10:05] <jud> TakeItEZ: I click "+ Add" tab on the accounts window
[10:05] <TakeItEZ> be asked*
[10:05] <Fluor> I need to boot the Ubuntu netinst installer in textmode, my remote video thingy does not like framebuffers:  https://8n1.org/8624/26f8  - does anyone know if this is possible?
[10:06] <jud> TakeItEZ: ok this time i've selected IRC because it works on this system
[10:09] <jud> TakeItEZ: ok, so it was the protocol dude. AIM was the default protocol and it didn't work..why not?
[10:10] <TakeItEZ> jud: because it doesn't allow creating new accounts via this client
[10:11] <jud> TakeItEZ: is trial and error the only way to figure out which clients are allowed?
[10:11] <Fluor> ...
[10:12] <blackshirt> Close your pidgin,remove .pidgin or .purple dir on your home dir and start pidgin again to reconfig from scratch
[10:13] <TakeItEZ> jud: you should know which protocol you want to use _before_ you configure an account. and if thas protocol doesn't allow account-creation this way, you have to register via a webservice or smthng like that before
[10:14] <jud> blackshirt: 12.10 installs it as part of the package..so you're saying I can choose clients in the configuration?
[10:14] <TakeItEZ> jud: its not very common to register to a network, "just because the client allows" to do so
[10:15] <TakeItEZ> jud: so if your buddies use xmpp, you create a xmpp-account. they use icq, you create an icq-account etc.pp
[10:18] <peterrus> if I wanted to test the old 3.5.0-10 kernel, where could I find it
[10:18] <jud> TakeItEZ: ledg!  great, thanks. so, can flash be installed with chromium do you know?
[10:18] <TakeItEZ> no idea jud
[10:20] <wdp> Hey, I'm wondering, in ubuntu my network devices get weird names. Instead of "eth0 eth1 and eth2" i have "em0" "eth1" and "p260p1" (only the last one is connected right now)
[10:20] <wdp> Can i somehow configure it to have eth0, eth1, and eth2?
[10:21] <jud> TakeItEZ: well, rather than bother you with that, I'll install firefox and install flash to that and figure out chromium later. I currently have the firefox tar.bz2 extracted to the desktop. I don't know what the installation instruction file is. any idea?
[10:22] <TakeItEZ> jud: sudo apt-get install firefox
[10:24] <jud> TakeItEZ: It's doin it's thing, cool...can I do the same for flash once that's done?
[10:25] <TakeItEZ> !flashplayer | jud
[10:26] <jud> Cool!
[10:26] <jud> How does ubottu know what to say?
[10:26] <TakeItEZ> !bot | jud those !commands trigger it
[10:27] <jud> Haha!
[10:28] <droidmaxxx> hello... HELP UBUNTU Gnome3...... hell lot of problem..
[10:28] <jud> TakeItEZ: So how did you get started with all this?
[10:28] <tizz> hi everybody! where is an IP alias (eth0:0) defined if it is not in /etc/network/interfaces? I deleted everything in /etc/network/interfaces but still eth0:0 is up after each reboot, with a static IP assigned. where the heck could this be defined in? thanks a lot!
[10:29] <jud> TakeItEZ: you came to linux with knowledge already?
[10:29] <TakeItEZ> jud: reading, reading, reading, at a time there was no www with all the answers
[10:31] <chandan_kumar> droidmaxxx, please write your problem.
[10:31] <droidmaxxx> chandan_kumar: ok..
[10:32] <droidmaxxx> hello... help gnome3 ubuntu 12.04 [15:55] <droidmaxxx> I'm able to login to Gnome intstead of unity... but extension can't be installed... [15:55] <droidmaxxx> I download that gnome3 via prepository first... big download and intstalled but it dint run... [15:56] <droidmaxxx> via terminal it get installed but no change... and also doesn't show up in tweak tool extensions tab.. [15:56] <droidmaxxx> via Firefox it doesn't get higli
[10:32] <emeline> salut a tous
[10:32] <droidmaxxx> hello... help gnome3 ubuntu 12.04
[10:32] <droidmaxxx> I'm able to login to Gnome intstead of unity... but extension can't be installed...
[10:32] <jud> TakeItEZ: Yeah but you knew what to read, what to look for, where did that come from? based on your experience how would you direct a novice to obtain some proficiency?
[10:32] <droidmaxxx>  I download that gnome3 via prepository first... big download and intstalled but it dint run...
[10:32] <droidmaxxx> via terminal it get installed but no change... and also doesn't show up in tweak tool extensions tab..
[10:32] <droidmaxxx> via Firefox it doesn't get higlighted everything greyed out
[10:33] <droidmaxxx> here some screenshots of my problem ---> http://imgur.com/a/B0kRL
[10:33] <droidmaxxx> chandan_kumar: done.... ^
[10:34] <niktto> Hi All, what is the deal with gir1.2-keybinder not available for 12.04? Is there any chance that it will get backported?
[10:35] <TakeItEZ> jud: create a problem (i want to use linux to do .... thisthat ...), try to solve it yourself and try to understand what all those tutorial/howtos really do. so you will learn more and more things
[10:36] <jud> TakeItEZ: And that's it? Well, thanks again!
[10:37] <TakeItEZ> jud: that was _my_ approach in the mid 90's
[10:38] <tizz> hi everybody! where is an IP alias (eth0:0) defined if it is not in /etc/network/interfaces? I deleted everything in /etc/network/interfaces but still eth0:0 is up after each reboot, with a static IP assigned. where the heck could this be defined in? thanks a lot!
[10:38] <jud> TakeItEZ: cool man, i'll take it on. cheers! Do you work with computers now?
[10:39] <TakeItEZ> jud not for money, but this is offtopic here, let's drop
[10:40] <TakeItEZ> tizz: /etc/NetworkManger/* ?
[10:40] <tizz> TakeItEZ, unfortunately not, no NetworkManager installed (10.04 server here)
[10:41] <MonkeyDust> tizz  tip: there's also #ubuntu-server
[10:42] <tizz> MonkeyDust, thanks, am asking there...
[10:43] <jud> TakeItEZ: Such dedication! Alright, thanks, catch ya!
[10:43] <jud> I LOVE YOU ALL! GOOD NIGHT!
[10:44] <unborn> Hello, can anyone help me please? got strange problem to encode jpg picture to txt file with base64.. i use it on debian before but under ubuntu 12.04 it does not work..
[10:44] <ms_> hello hello! how to.....
[10:45] <ms_> how to show the information of music which is playing with amarok on pidgin's label?
[10:46] <TakeItEZ> unborn: base64 works fine here (jpg -> txt and vice versa)
[10:46] <heroandtn3> ms_: trying pidgin plugin
[10:46] <ms_> heroandtn3, which?
[10:46] <TakeItEZ> unborn: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[10:46] <unborn> TakeItEZ, can you tell me the correct command please? base64 -e p.jpg p.txt does give me error
[10:46] <TakeItEZ> unborn: base64 foo.jpg > bar.txt
[10:47] <root> hello
[10:47] <TakeItEZ> unborn: base64 from GNU coreutils 8.12.197-032bb , it has no -e option, just -d to decompress
[10:47] <lidongdong> 你好
[10:47] <TakeItEZ> unborn: man base64
[10:48] <lidongdong> hello
[10:48] <heroandtn3> ms_: search MucsicTracker pidgin plugin
[10:48] <unborn> uh? TakeItEZ do to decompress i use -D ?
[10:48] <heroandtn3> int Tools --> Plugins
[10:48] <TakeItEZ> err decode*
[10:48] <TakeItEZ> unborn: -c not -C
[10:48] <vitimiti> (·.·)/
[10:49] <wdp> nobody?
[10:49] <TakeItEZ> unborn: -d not -D    sorry for confusion
[10:49] <unborn> TakeItEZ, i see.. so what is the command for converting jpg to encoded string so i can use it in css..
[10:49] <Guest69628> someone how have a tuto how to install asterisk
[10:49] <Guest69628> ???
[10:49] <ms_>  heroandtn3, the checkbox for tis plugin is already checked, but I don't know how to do next?
[10:50] <TakeItEZ> unborn: base64 -d bar.txt >foo.jpg
[10:50] <heroandtn3> ms_: select that plugin then press Configure Plugin button
[10:51] <ms_> heroandtn3, uhmm, done.
[10:51] <hellhammer> I'm running ubuntu 12.04 with classic gnome and i cant get 3d effects to enable but i have ccsm installed how do i fix this?
[10:51] <TakeItEZ> unborn: no idea about css
[10:52] <unborn> TakeItEZ, base64 -d p.jpg > p.txt
[10:52] <unborn> base64: invalid input
[10:52] <TakeItEZ> unborn: to encode: base64 foo.jpg > bar.txt
[10:52] <droidmaxxx> Guys Ubuntu and Gnome3 unable to set up... can you suggest some other lightweight low resource OS which can run fast on my netbook...
[10:52] <TakeItEZ> unborn:to decode: base64 -d bar.txt >foo.jpg
[10:53] <unborn> TakeItEZ, THANK YOU VERY MUCH
[10:53] <unborn> TakeItEZ, i did command without > which was my bad :)
[10:54] <TakeItEZ> unborn: then it writes to stdout
[10:54] <TakeItEZ> or gives an error...
[10:54] <q_> hello i have a input output error problem after a diskwipe can anybody help me ?
[10:56] <unborn> TakeItEZ, thank you very much.. you know i design wordpress themes and some small pictures i can embed to theme files in css base64
[10:56] <unborn> same for email signature ;)
[10:57] <ee12155> #sduhildasfh
[10:57] <Guest67472> hi does anyone know how to get flash player to use hdmi sound using Kubuntu?
[10:57] <q_> hello i have a input output error problem after a diskwipe can anybody help ?
[10:57] <TakeItEZ> unborn: ah ok
[10:59] <ee12015> : expected identifier or ‘(’ before ‘{’ token
[10:59] <TakeItEZ> its friday, ee*spam starts
[11:00] <unborn> droidmaxxx, try debian :)
[11:01] <TakeItEZ> droidmaxxx: use lxde/lubuntu-desktop, runs fine here on my netbook atom n280
[11:04] <InstantKrimson> droidmaxxx: xubuntu runs nice on a 6 year old lappy I use. If you want something very tiny, try DamnSmallLinux or PuppyLinux. Much more of a hassle getting software for those than any *buntu distribution though....
[11:05] <droidmaxxx> InstantKrimson: oh.. I tried DSL and slitaz.. very low... but not much apps... it has..
[11:06] <droidmaxxx> I want something user friendly and should support more apps... I'm kinda still learning linux..
[11:06] <InstantKrimson> then go with xubuntu or lubuntu is my advice
[11:06] <InstantKrimson> I think lubuntu is the "lightest" of them in terms of reasource usage
[11:09] <ee12099> #include <stdio.h>
[11:09] <ee12099> int multiplicacao(int primeiro_numero, int segundo_numero)
[11:09] <ee12099> {
[11:09] <ee12099> if (segundo_numero==0)
[11:09] <ee12099> 		return 0;
[11:09] <FloodBot1> ee12099: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:09] <ee12099> else
[11:09] <droidmaxxx> InstantKrimson: hmm... ok thanks :)
[11:09] <ee12015>  #sup
[11:11] <ee12015> # yo
[11:11] <ee12015> #yo
[11:14] <ee12026> #sup
[11:14] <hellhammer> I'm running ubuntu 12.04 and my sound isnt working when i go to the sound settings it says i have a dummy output,how can i fix this so my sound works again?
[11:16] <dan_> hi - i need the video i play to be diverted to the VGA out of my laptop rather than on the LCD , can that be done ?
[11:16] <MonkeyDust> hellhammer  open a terminal and type alsamixer - anything wrong there?
[11:17] <ee12075> #sup
[11:17] <MonkeyDust> ee12075  please stop
[11:19] <dan_> hi - i need the video i play to be diverted to the VGA out of my laptop rather than on the LCD , can that be done ?
[11:19] <reedos> 请问Linux下有啥软件可以看pdf，并且支持标注，如画横线／感激不禁
[11:19] <MonkeyDust> !cn
[11:21] <dr_willis> dan_:  You can set up 2 monitors on most laptops these days.  One is the lcd other is the video out.
[11:24] <Josssse> Hello guys. So i want to be able to synchronize my snippets and word dictionaries for gedit of both of my workstations with ubuntu one. Is it possible? Easy?
[11:24] <Josssse> How can I do it?
[11:24] <Josssse> Thanks.
[11:25] <dr_willis> Josssse:  i think you can set ubuntu one to sync folders outside of the Ubujntu One Directory now.  or you could link whever the snipits are stored  to a folder in  your Uubntu One directory.
[11:25] <k1l_> Josssse: take alook at unison. basically it is a 2-way rsync. so snycing the gedit folders could do it
[11:25] <ee12054> #sup
[11:25] <MonkeyDust> ee12075  are you a bot?
[11:25] <ee12054> mm
[11:25] <k1l_> ee12054: you were asked to stop.
[11:26] <ee12054> 123
[11:27] <k1l_> !ot > ee12054
[11:27] <Josssse> dr_willis, Yes, I can sync other directories with on. What I would like to do is to put all the config files that hare syncd in one directory and share it.
[11:27] <Josssse> So how do i tell gedit to read the config files from this new directory i've created?
[11:27] <dr_willis> Josssse:  you could do some fancy linking i guess.
[11:27] <dan_> dr_willis i use this laptop to play videos on the projector in a theater , i have seen other play videos on the projector out using a software called Virtual DJ on windows, with that they just hit play and video appears on the projector and not on the laptop screen,  i am looking for a similar functionality :D
[11:28] <Josssse> dr_willis, Ahh, good idea. I'm very bad with linking though. I don't even understand too well.
[11:28] <dr_willis> dan_:  you can just use the extended desktop feature and drag the video player over to the 2nd monitor.
[11:28] <Josssse> So first thing I must do is find the dictionary file and the snippets file. Any ideas where they might be?
[11:29] <dr_willis> Nope. I dont use gedit.. i would guess in .config
[11:29] <ee12054> #sup
[11:29] <ee12054> [#sup]
[11:29] <MonkeyDust> !ops
[11:32] <dan_> dr_willis - that is what i do now ,but its really messy and embarrassing when dragging appears in the big screen  :(
[11:32] <dr_willis> dan_:  ive never seen it done any other way. not even on windows. so thats about all i can say on the topic.
[11:32] <dr_willis> Unless you were to use seperate X sessions for the 2 monitors. and i dont do that way
[11:33] <dr_willis> I have xbmc set to appear on the 2nd monitor full screen by default
[11:38] <TonyMiii> hello folks..  I have got a problem with ndiswrapper on ubuntu 12.10 .. The version 1.57.1 available on the repository will show no module founds
[11:38] <TonyMiii> *found
[11:39] <TonyMiii> I have also tried compiling the latest experimental version available on source force
[11:40] <TonyMiii> the module compiles just fine but whenever I execute sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[11:40] <TonyMiii> the shell hangs in waiting ...
[11:40] <TonyMiii> anyone ?
[11:41] <dr_willis> other then suggesting to check dmesg output for errors.. I have no idea. ;)
[11:41] <juboba> hey
[11:41] <dr_willis> I dont use ndiswrapper ;)
[11:41] <TonyMiii> thanks dr_willis
[11:41] <jolo1234>  hey i have xp - Kubuntu dual boot, but how do i get into my pc bios now?
[11:41] <TonyMiii> will give it a shot
[11:41] <juboba> How can I configure my desktop computer so that I can `X :2 -query MyIP` from my other computer?
[11:41] <dr_willis> jolo1234:  same as you always have.. hit some key at bootup normally. the OS shouldent matter
[11:42] <dr_willis> F1, Del, BS, escape.  depends on the maker.
[11:42] <jolo1234> dr_willis: i don't get the prompt anymore
[11:42] <jolo1234> mines f2 - f12
[11:42] <dr_willis> what prompt?
[11:42] <jolo1234> bios prompt to hit f12
[11:43] <TonyMiii> I usually don't either but this pc here has got a built in wireless module which isnt compatible with the linux kernel
[11:43] <dr_willis> the bios stuff is befor the OS even loads.  if you are refering to the 'POST' info screens.
[11:43] <InstantKrimson> many modern BIOS'es hide it, you need to hit F12 anyways
[11:43] <TonyMiii> and requires ndiswrapper unfortunately
[11:43] <dr_willis> power up. tap F12 like a woodpecker...
[11:43] <Argure> HAI. anyone good with shorewall configs and feeling like looking over config files real quick that are made by a complete tool (i.e., me)? :P
[11:44] <jolo1234> dr_willis: cold boot right?
[11:44] <dr_willis> jolo1234:  shoulent matter
[11:45] <jolo1234> interesting.... i try again on the weekend, thanks
[11:46] <blackshirt> !pastebin
[11:47] <notwist> TonyMiii: you can always buy a stand-alone wireless adapter via USB that supports linux
[11:48] <dr_willis> found a nice USB wifi thang on amazon for $18 that gets amazing range and works with 12.10 with no tweaking. ;)
[11:48] <dr_willis> actually i found several. ;)
[11:49] <notwist> dr_willis: did it specify that it worked in linux or did you have to google? also theres a lot cheaper adapters than 18 bucks :)
[11:50] <dr_willis> notwist:  i found one for $8  a 'dongle' but this other one for $18 was a usb cable/little box with 2 antennas and it picks up  a lot better signal strenth. ;)
[11:50] <notwist> http://is.gd/cV4xM3 $11.20 incl. shipping
[11:50] <dr_willis> I just searched the comments/review to see what others have had luck with in linux
[11:51] <notwist> ok, cool
[11:51] <dr_willis> I found a neat 'wifi thing' that you plug into your ethernet port also. :) so the pc things you are wired. but it was like $40 - made for network enabled tvs and consoles.
[11:51] <dr_willis> it works decently well also.
[11:52] <notwist> dr_willis: cool, that sounds like a kind of simplified router/bridge almost, pretty smart
[11:53] <dr_willis> notwist:  yea thats basically what it was.  Ive not really testee how good it pcks up. My 'standard test' plyug it in - see how many of the neighbors wifi's i can detect. ;)
[12:00] <samba35> how do i get X windows on windows with xming ,what i have to change in putty
[12:01] <dr_willis> samba35:  I normally just run the xming 'wizard' and let it use the xmings built in putty client. Or I belive you run the xming server, then run putty and you have to check/enable the x forwarding in the putty clients settings
[12:01] <dr_willis> but you dont need to use putty by itself. ;) You could use the xming wizard and have it run gnome-terminal for example
[12:02] <dr_willis> if you wanted a terminal
[12:02] <samba35> ok
[12:04] <samba35> i have wizard can you pleae tell me how do i follow it
[12:04] <JPSman> Hey there.  So I am using 12.04 and I uninstalled Unity.  How can I host a VNC remote desktop?  I can't find the old "Remote Desktop" option at all in the menus.
[12:05] <dr_willis> samba35:  i dont recall it being that hard .. enter the ip of the server. tell it to run gnome-terminal.  ... hit nexct a lot ;)
[12:05] <samba35> ok
[12:06] <dr_willis> JPSman:  you can install 'vnc4server' or 'tightvnc' and have seperate 'hidden' vnc desktops you connec tto. that are not shared on the 'local' display. or use a vnc server like x11vnc to share the current display
[12:06] <juboba> how can I configure my desktop computer to accept remote X sessions? I can log to localhost, but I can't log from remote computers in my network...
[12:07] <juboba> I'm using lightdm
[12:07] <dr_willis> juboba:  You mean connect to a remote pc from a local one at the lightdm login screen?
[12:07] <dr_willis> like was done ages ago via xdmcp and the X query feature?
[12:08] <unimaxlin> how can i insert a cron from a script..
[12:08] <unimaxlin> crontab -e echo "cron entry" wq!
[12:08] <unimaxlin> cron entr*
[12:09] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/66431/how-do-i-configure-lightdm-to-work-with-xdmcp
[12:09] <juboba> dr_willis, yes
[12:10] <juboba> dr_willis, I want to configure my desktop computer so that I can log from another computer
[12:10] <juboba> I tried that dr_willis but I can log from localhost only
[12:11] <dr_willis> you did enable the xdmcp thing on the machine you are trying to log into?
[12:11] <dr_willis> not the local machine.
[12:11] <juboba> dr_willis, in lightdm?
[12:11] <juboba> yes
[12:12] <dr_willis> thats what the guides say..  ive not messed withj xdmcp in ages
[12:13] <dr_willis> i dont even recall seeing where you tell lightdm to scan/query for what machines exist on the lan
[12:16] <dr_willis> night all..
[12:21] <blackshirt> good night dr_willis ...
[12:22] <DarkSim> Is there any good way to undo a upgrade?
[12:23] <blackshirt> darksim, i have no idea
[12:25] <JPSman> Thank dr_willis this is working for me now :OD
[12:26] <rifter> I'm having weird freezes of the window manager since yesterday's upgrade - packages: http://pastebin.com/VqT11jDE all of a sudden I can't move windows around anymore or switch focus
[12:26] <DarkSim> So I have to reinstall the OS again, pff. I will lose all my data again :/
[12:26] <rifter> and I can't figure out how to restart the window manager in 12.04 or x for that matter
[12:27] <rifter> I created a new user and that user has the same problem. actually what was happening just awhile ago was it froze on me, I rebooted, and no matter who I logged in as the problem started happening right away.. like once I started anything
[12:28] <rifter> I don't know why it is working right now, but apparently I was able to get to xchat
[12:29] <rifter> I'm not sure how to revert to the old versions either since as I recall I would have to uninstall the packages and reinstall from the cache, and uninstalling unity, etc would uninstall everything else
[12:32] <rifter> when I tried going  to fvwm2, anything I tried to start gave me the spinning cursor forever. That is probably unrelated because I haven't used fvwm2 on this box yet
[12:32] <rifter> or rather on this install
[12:35] <rifter> I'm in classic gnome now, which was freezing too earlier.. as in as soon as I logged in and started something, but is not acting up just now
[12:37] <DarkSim> Is there any way to check wether or not which programs I can save before I reinstall Ubuntu_
[12:38] <rifter> DarkSim, you mean what prograks are installed or what?
[12:38] <DarkSim> Because when I installed last time I made sure I had a partition where I would put all programs and files
[12:39] <DarkSim> but it doesnt seem like Ubuntu put anything there to begin with, so I guess I have to overwrite everything now
[12:39] <rifter> DarkSim, if reinstalling you leave your home directory your user-specific settings are kept
[12:39] <DarkSim> if these are made during 12.10 and I install 12.04 would those still work?
[12:40] <rifter> DarkSim, well if there is nothing on the partition there is nothing gto save. but do you mean the partition is not even formatted? is this a new install?
[12:41] <DarkSim> I meant that I partitioned a disk into two sections were one is where I install ubuntu, the other one is a junkfile/app drive, but I cant choose were to install things in ubuntu so that disk is pretty useless
[12:41] <TedU> hi
[12:41] <rifter> DarkSim, if the partitions are made they can be used asgain, but you would not want to leave progrqams there
[12:42] <TedU> This is the first time I've ever considered using Linux.  Would you give me one piece of advice?
[12:43] <datruth> whats the difference between the noveau driver vs the nvidia driver 3.04?
[12:43] <DarkSim> TedU: Stock up some patience, it will be needed
[12:44] <Varange> hi there
[12:44] <TedU> I believe I should buy a cheap used computer, so that I can take my time getting it going
[12:44] <DarkSim> probably a good idea
[12:44] <rifter> datruth, the closed source driver gives you 3d
[12:44] <rifter> TedU, not a bad idea
[12:45] <TedU> Does it matter if it's a Dell, HP, Gateway or maybe even Generic?
[12:45] <datruth> rifter: so the closed source driver nvidia 3.04 gives me 3d and noveau does not?
[12:45] <rifter> datruth, it also has some other proprietary features I can't think of right now
[12:45] <sergii> Hi all, please if someone can help me with EXPECT in ubuntu 12.++ pls open private, It was really annoying, I really need help!!!
[12:45] <rifter> datruth, noveau used not to give you 3d.. I think it still doesn't
[12:46] <datruth> rifter: proprietary features in the nvidia driver 3.04 or noveau?
[12:46] <belgianguy> I just enrolled in a beta of some sort, and am experiencing crashes, where do I find the version of the graphics driver (AMD/ATI Catalyst)
[12:46] <datruth> rifter: gotcha
[12:46] <mmonat> cal
[12:46] <rifter> datruth, the closed source one gives proprietary features, yeah
[12:46] <datruth> Does ubuntu boot without an xorg.conf?
[12:46] <sergii> People, someone knows how i can do script for example sudo apt-get ... and do it automatic? sending password
[12:46] <rifter> TedU, no it should not matter, especially with a desktop
[12:47] <datruth> rifter: anyway I can fix my screen brightness keys without using an xorg.conf whenever I do I'm unable to use chrome
[12:47] <rifter> TedU, laptops can be tricky, but brand doesn't matter there, either.. it's a matter of what is supported on it
[12:47] <DarkSim> Time to reinstall whole OS again :(
[12:47] <sergii> really anyone cant help me?
[12:47] <fishcooker> hii everyone
[12:47] <fishcooker> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1416741/
[12:48] <rifter> datruth, it defaults to not having an xorg.conf I believe
[12:48] <sergii> why 1700 people there if nobodys want help?
[12:48] <lcabreza2>  sergii: whats your issue ? how can we help you ?
[12:49] <rifter> datruth, I'm not sure about getting your screen brightness keys on your keyboard working.... never been down that road
[12:49] <sergii> i pm u
[12:49] <TedU> OK !  Thanks for the advice !  I guess I can find a cheapy somewhere.  Hell, I pulled this unit out of a dumpster a few years ago !  Happy Holidays !
[12:49] <TedU> Bye
[12:49] <rifter> sergii, what did you need help with?
[12:49] <sergii> lcabreza2 I open PM
[12:50] <sergii> with
[12:50] <sergii> EXPECT or something
[12:50] <ProfessorBacon> plarp
[12:50] <sergii> to help auto response
[12:50] <sergii> i wanna do this on bash script: sudo apt-get ....
[12:50] <fishcooker> i've problem with my device
[12:50] <fishcooker> bluetooth device
[12:50] <rifter> sergil what are you starting?
[12:50] <sergii> I want to do it automatic, sending password
[12:51] <rifter> sergil you need expect to send passwiords
[12:51] <sergii> ye i know
[12:51] <sergii> but i cant do it
[12:51] <sergii> dont works
[12:51] <sergii> :S
[12:51] <FloodBot1> sergii: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:51] <fishcooker> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1416749/
[12:51] <rifter> sergil you can change /etc/sudoers to not require one, or use ssh with keys
[12:52] <sergii> i should do it with expect
[12:52] <sergii> but i cant write command with expect
[12:52] <rifter> sergii, expect can be tricky.. it's been years since I used it.. I used perl with the expect module when I did
[12:52] <nsahoo> can I install a package for ubuntu precise on ubuntu quantal?
[12:53] <rifter> sergii, there's some info on expect online, and an oreilly book.. I think it is called exploring expect
[12:53] <sergii> oks
[12:53] <sergii> mi console returns this:
[12:53] <sergii> invalid command name "sudo"     while executing "sudo mkdir abrirrrrr"     (file "./aja.sh" line 3)
[12:54] <rifter> sergii, expect responds to promots with commands,m that's how it works. there is a way to get it to let you type after, but I forget what I did for that
[12:54] <fishcooker> should i install new kernel
[12:54] <fishcooker> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1416749/
[12:54] <rifter> sergii, that's weird.. maybe sudo is not in the path at that point? it works from the command line right?
[12:55] <sergii> sec
[12:55] <raven> is there a channel for SYSRESCCD?
[12:55] <rifter> nsahoo, poaaibly. depends on the package, and mixing versions can have funny results
[12:56] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[12:56] <sergii> I dont know because i dont know how it should be writed, i tryed as i found on internet
[12:56] <sergii> but nothings works
[12:56] <lcabreza2> sergii: sorie i can't help you ..
[12:58] <raven> is there a channel for SYSRESCCD?
[12:59] <k1l_> !alis | raven
[12:59] <rifter> sergii, I mean when you use the command sudo from the terminal does it work
[13:02] <leo_> !list
[13:03] <sergii> rifter read PM if u can please
[13:04] <rifter> sergii, ok sorry I missed it I will look now
[13:07] <belgianguy> hmm trying to reinstall the ati drivers
[13:07] <Will9455> I am running a dual boot Ubuntu/windows 7 pro system.  About once a day for no reason when i am on the Ubuntu side my system restarts with no waring just shuts off
[13:08] <Will9455> Is there a log i can find or use to stop this
[13:08] <belgianguy> but after removing them with a apt-get purge script I found, the installer still detects it
[13:08] <belgianguy> I could force an install, but if even the installer does not recommend it
[13:08] <belgianguy> I don't dare to restart either
[13:09] <BluesKaj> Will9455,  /var/log , probly system.log or similar
[13:09] <Will9455> I did that, I have reformated the system serveral times because sometimes it wont boot into anything
[13:12] <Will9455> It is a fresh install.  I do a majority of my work through RDP and teamviewer.  I am just wondering the cause, hence looking for the log file
[13:12] <Will9455> Hanks Blue
[13:12] <Will9455> Thanks
[13:16] <Will9455> No system.log or anything similiar.  humm
[13:18] <tre> Will 'apt-get download => apt-cache --important depends $package' download updated packages and will dependencies correct?
[13:19] <tre> I need to download packages without installing but cannot do this for packages which already installed on my machine
[13:19] <datruth> rifter: thanks for the info all is working now
[13:20] <Will9455> apt-get download => apt-cache --important depends $package
[13:20] <Will9455> bash: apt-cache: Permission denied
[13:20] <Will9455> cd home
[13:21] <tre> Will9455 it is not correct cmd I just wrote it in simpel way. Here is script for russian localized ubuntu => http://paste.kde.org/621596/48864711/
[13:22] <datruth> how can I make my panel bar smaller?
[13:27] <Zftorn> so I bought this USB headset
[13:27] <Zftorn> and my cat torn apart the cable
[13:28] <Zftorn> how can I fix this shit ?
[13:28] <Zftorn> just use tin ?
[13:28] <tre> Zftorn: kill the cat
[13:28] <bazhang> Zftorn, ##hardware  , and not cursing here
[13:28] <tre> just use shotgun
[13:28] <bazhang> tre, stop that
[13:29] <tre> ok
[13:29] <Zftorn> k bazhang.
[13:33] <mietze_kotze> Hi everyone. Since I have installed compat-wireless 2012-12-06 my internal wirleess card (bcm43225) is not shown anymore. the former driver (broadcom-sta) is shown as installed but inactive. is there the possibility to get the both working? because i need the compat wireless for another stick.
[13:37] <locojay1> hi i am getting when running 12.10, 12.04 (Unable to find medium containing a live system) running on xen
[13:42] <read> could anyone help me learn how to paste my system log on pastebin through cli?
[13:42] <bazhang> read install pastebinit
[13:42] <bazhang> then command | pastebinit
[13:42] <read> I installed it last night bashang but I don't remeber how to use it
[13:43] <read> bazhang: I installed it last night but I don't remeber how to use it
[13:43] <bazhang> read | <pipe> the command to pastebinit
[13:43] <guyvdb> Hi, I am running KUbuntu 12.10. I am trying to get hplip working correctly with foo2zjs. When I print I get the following error in syslog. Any ideas?  colord-sane: io/hpmud/musb.c 2066: Invalid usb_open: Permission denied
[13:44] <read> what is the command that i input prior to piping it bazhang?
[13:44] <bazhang> read what command do you wish to pastebin
[13:44] <bazhang> !crosspost > guyvdb
[13:45] <read> bazhang I want to see my system log because my newly installed ubuntu is acting up
[13:45] <read> bazhang: the letter e doesn't show up properly.
[13:45] <bazhang> read where / which system log
[13:47] <read> bazhang: i'm not sure what is called but last night I was in this channel getting helped to fix my ubuntu. My ubuntu freezes after login. So they wanted to see my system log
[13:48] <read> bazhang: the result came out with something like this 'X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 [    20.497] Build Operating System: Linux 3.2.0-30-generic x86_64 Ubuntu [    20.497] Current Operating System: Linux oem-ubuntu 3.5.0-17-generic #28-Ubuntu SMP Tue Oct 9 19:31:23 UTC 2012 x86_64 [    20.497] Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.5.0-17-generic root=UUID=307dbb1e-ec9d-4641-9c47-987743f3333d ro quiet splash vt.handoff=7 [ 
[13:48] <read> bazhang: it was a long page that pasted into pastebin
[13:50] <bateer> hi
[13:51] <read> bazhang: u know what i am referring to?
[13:51] <bazhang> read , sorry no idea
[13:51] <bateer> hi
[13:52] <bateer> friend
[13:52] <bazhang> bateer, hi
[13:52] <bazhang> bateer, ubuntu support question?
[13:52] <bateer> wow,i'm happy
[13:52] <bazhang> !ot | bateer
[13:53] <read> bazhang: do you know of any website that shows you how to paste on bin from the CLI?
[13:53] <k1l_> !pastebinit | read
[13:53] <bazhang> read I just told you
[13:53] <bazhang> read   cat   /path/to/log/ | pastebinit
[13:54] <bateer> I'm from kazakhstan
[13:55] <bazhang> bateer, this is NOT the chat channel
[13:55] <DJones> bateer: Do you have an Ubuntu support question, this channel is support only, not for general chat
[13:56] <bateer> sorry
[13:58] <read> Yesterday when I had the problem that my newly installed ubuntu 12.10 would freeze after login, now when the computer boots after the grub it goes straight into a command line. How can I fix this?
[13:59] <Argure> what happens when you run $ startx
[13:59] <Argure> ?
[14:00] <locojay1> i got the 12.10 iso from http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop so no idea why i get (Unable to find a medium containing a live file system)
[14:00] <read> argure: i get the message 'servr terminated with error (1) closing file.
[14:00] <read> argure: xinit: giving up
[14:00] <locojay1> have beean following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XenProposed : Manually installing an HVM Guest VM
[14:00] <read> Argure: xinit: unable to connect to X server: connection refused
[14:00] <read> argure: server error
[14:01] <shadow98> how do you set 12.10 to login to unity 2d only
[14:01] <shadow98> from command line
[14:01] <Argure> read: try $ xinit
[14:01] <Argure> see if that actually *starts*
[14:02] <read> Argure: same error message
[14:02] <k1l_> Argure: dont use startx
[14:02] <k1l_> Argure: read sudo service lightdm start (or restart)
[14:02] <Argure> hey, I haven't used an Ubuntu desktop since 8.04 :p
[14:02] <DJones> shadow98: The last I heard, unity 2d had been dropped from 12.10 (it could have changed before the final release though) http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/08/unity-2d-removed-from-ubuntu-12-10
[14:02] <Argure> read: do you happen to be using an nvidia card?
[14:03] <Argure> and if so, which one?
[14:03] <k1l_> Argure: start the X with the dm, lightdm is now the dm in ubuntus
[14:03] <shadow98> DJones: what the heck...i guess i need a different distro now days...i remote into my PC all the time...and this new version sucks for working remote on slower connections
[14:03] <Krywk> Hey guys
[14:03] <Krywk> I'm having kind of a problem here...
[14:03] <Krywk> I can't access other ttys
[14:03] <k1l_> read: "sudo restart lightdm " should be the command
[14:04] <k1l_> read: but you can tell us what you did before it doesnt start anymore. install smth? removed? etc.
[14:04] <indicator> Omg... I updated (which I really didn't want to do), rebooted, and now I get a grub rescue shell
[14:04] <indicator> please help
[14:04] <zZommm> anyone using kvm here? I'm having trouble with throttling disk access by a VM... whatever I set with virsh blkdeviotune it blocks the guest totally.
[14:04] <k1l_> read: and what say the logs? .xsession-errors in home and dmesg
[14:04] <indicator> I tried to boot from the livecd and just mount my device, but sadly, it's not mountable or anything like that
[14:05] <Krywk> Guys
[14:05] <read> for 'sudo restart lightdm' it says 'restart: unknown instance:
[14:05] <Krywk> I can't access any TTY
[14:05] <Krywk> I just get a black screen
[14:05] <Krywk> what do I do? :/
[14:05] <bazhang> !repeat | Krywk
[14:05] <read> kil: for 'sudo restart lightdm' it says 'restart: unknown instance:
[14:06] <grimeton> http://google.com/pacman
[14:06] <shadow98> DJones: http://askubuntu.com/questions/134346/why-is-unity-2d-being-discontinued
[14:06] <bazhang> grimeton, whats that
[14:06] <read> Argure: i installed nvidia-current-update before this problem occured.
[14:07] <k1l_> read: which ubuntu is it exactly?
[14:07] <Argure> do you know if your card has Optimus technology?
[14:07] <Argure> and if not, which card are you using?
[14:07] <read> k1l how do i get the .xsession-errors
[14:07] <k1l_> read: "lsb_release -a | pastebinit"
[14:07] <read> k1l: is ubuntu 12.10
[14:07] <k1l_> read: "pastebinit .xsession-errors"
[14:08] <k1l_> read: then why is there no lightdm? try with start instead of restart
[14:08] <indicator> ....... I ran blkid on all of my known partitions and NOTHING is returned... Why did these updates destroy my system?!?! :(((((((
[14:08] <ikonia> "sudo blkid"
[14:09] <read> k1l: the website is http://past.ubuntu.com/1416869
[14:09] <indicator> ikonia, I'm root on the shell....
[14:09] <faLUCE>  hi, is there an irc client with english syntax checker plugin or option?
[14:09] <ikonia> indicator: pastebin the output of just the command blkid
[14:09] <ikonia> indicator: how / why are you root
[14:10] <read> k1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1416869
[14:10] <k1l_> read: ok. did you try start instead of restart with lightdm?
[14:10] <read> k1l: what was the command again?
[14:10] <indicator> ikonia, dude..... read. there's NO OUTPUT
[14:11] <k1l_> read: "sudo start lightdm " should be the command
[14:11] <indicator> and I'm root because I cannot get into my system, thus I must use a livecd
[14:11] <indicator> and of course, I'm root so I can actually navigate
[14:11] <Pici> indicator: The folks here are trying to help you, mind the attiude please.
[14:11] <ikonia> indicator: good luck working it out on your own
[14:12] <read> k1l: that works but it ends at starting cpu interrupts balancing daemon and the curso just keeps blinking
[14:12] <indicator> I guess I must compensate for your fallbaks? :\
[14:12] <k1l_> read: what did you do before that system stopped working?
[14:13] <read> the last thing i did was install nvidia-current-updates and then the computer froze
[14:13] <Argure> does your nvidia card have Optimus technology?
[14:13] <Argure> that would explain a lot, tbh ;)
[14:15] <indicator> ikonia, does that mean you have no idea where to start or that I should basically submit to your lacking of comprehension, re-evaluating every single step I've already performed, suggested as reference considering that point I'm at now, or just continue dabbling around in halt?
[14:15] <read> Argure: I don't know, how do i find out?
[14:15] <Argure> what is your nvidia card?
[14:15] <Argure> i.e., which type? :o)
[14:15] <ikonia> indicator: no, it means I don't want to help someone with the attitude,
[14:16] <indicator> ikonia, there's not much of an attitude, you're just misinterpreting my motives
[14:16] <indicator> ikonia, sorry if I made you feel uncomfortable
[14:16] <Argure> read: run $ lspci | grep VGA
[14:16] <ikonia> indicator: I have no idea/interst in your motives, I just needed to get info to help you
[14:17] <indicator> ikonia, so you want the output of blkid /dev/sdb[1-5], there
[14:17] <indicator> there's none...
[14:17] <ikonia> indicator: no thank you, as I said, I'm not interested,
[14:17] <indicator> then why did you suggest?
[14:17] <indicator> wtf
[14:17] <ikonia> indicator: that's not what I suggested you do
[14:17] <ikonia> indicator: please re-read what I suggested you do
[14:17] <VT1990> Is their any ETA on a fix for the ethernet/wifi problems that numerous people are having?
[14:17] <ikonia> and good luck
[14:17] <indicator> <ikonia> indicator: pastebin the output of just the command blkid
[14:18] <bazhang> VT1990, whats the bug number
[14:18] <indicator> there's NO output
[14:18] <ikonia> indicator: yes, nowhere did I mention /dev/sdb[1-5] or anything else, just blkid on it's own
[14:18] <VT1990> I will copy and paste the link, hold a sec.
[14:18] <indicator> literally, just get a new line
[14:18] <ikonia> good luck
[14:18] <read> k1l: the .xsession-errors is 'http://paste.ubuntu.com/1416889/'
[14:19] <indicator> Pici, am I in the wrong here?
[14:19] <indicator> Am I doing something wrong?
[14:19] <VT1990> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2088907 << Thats my issue alone. I noticed a lot of people are having similar problems.
[14:19] <bazhang> VT1990, let me take a look, just a moment
[14:19] <VT1990> Thank you very much.
[14:19] <zolgar> How do I access the repository to download display drivers?
[14:20] <mehdi> hello, could any one help with xubuntu, i'm lost !
[14:20] <read> Argure: the message is '04:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation Device 08a0 (rev a3)
[14:20] <Argure> that would be a 320M
[14:20] <Argure> commonly a laptop card
[14:20] <Argure> am I correct?
[14:21] <Pici> indicator: What?
[14:21] <bazhang> !info r8168-dkms | VT1990
[14:21] <read> Argure: what you mean? are u asking if i'm using a laptop?
[14:22] <VT1990> Thanks baz.
[14:22] <rifter> anyone know what the application is that gives the alt-tab switching for gnome? I detailed my current problems earlier but I guess no one was sure what to make of it. In any case in unity alt-tab was not working and I am in classic gnome and it does not work there either
[14:22] <Argure> I'm trying to figure out what graphics card you are using, as newer nvidia cards (with Optimus technology) are infamous for causing problems with the desktop manager
[14:22] <Argure> :)
[14:22] <bazhang> rifter, yes, its an extension for gnome-shell
[14:23] <read> Argure: oh, so what is your conclusion from the information I provided?
[14:23] <bazhang> rifter, there is also one that does the alt-tab coverflow
[14:23] <Argure> well if lspci doesn't show an intel card along with your nvidia card I'm guessing you're not using that
[14:24] <Argure> okay
[14:24] <kracekumar> Is this  the right place to discuss Ubuntu Lens Api help ?
[14:24] <Argure> try $ sudo aptitude show xserver-xorg
[14:25] <read> Argure: well, I am using a macbook and that runs on an intel card
[14:25] <Argure> and while you're at it, do the same for $ sudo aptitude show xinit
[14:25] <rifter> bazhang, dunno what you mean by (c)overflow.. is there maybe a log I an check to see if the app crashed or a way to restart it
[14:25] <indicator> Pici, nothing... that dude just doesn't know how to help.. I thought I was being rude or something, so I just wanted your feedback as I thought you may have been an op watching my behavior
[14:25] <shadow98> trying to enable auto-login = http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/10/enable-auto-login-in-ubuntu-12-10-quantal-quetzal/
[14:25] <zolgar> How do I access the repository to download the latest nvidia driver?
[14:25] <shadow98> this did not working
[14:26] <Daxter> mehdi: what exactly do you need heklpwith
[14:26] <Argure> read: if you aptitude shows you have both packages installed, try $ cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[14:26] <belgianguy> I've had to cold boot a few times from a system hang
[14:26] <belgianguy> where can I find out what caused it?
[14:26] <Daxter> zolgar: the latest nvdiai driver is on nvidia's website, its not in a repo.
[14:26] <shadow98> trying to enable auto-login = http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/10/enable-auto-login-in-ubuntu-12-10-quantal-quetzal/ <<<<----- this did not work....when im on the login screen my name is there not my username...should I just use the name or username?
[14:26] <belgianguy> I just updated my gfx drivers, so they are suspect #1
[14:26] <read> Argure: message is 'aptitude: command not found
[14:26] <bazhang> rifter, coverflow is a 3D representation showing the various windows and cycles them, alt-tab can be checked and unchecked via the tweak tool app that works with gnome-shell
[14:26] <Argure> o.o
[14:27] <Argure> $ sudo apt-get show xserver-xorg
[14:27] <Argure> then
[14:27] <Argure> :)
[14:27] <ceil> what's ubuntu 12.10 called? trying to do https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebootstrapChroot with the current version...
[14:27] <zolgar> Daxter: Okay then, thanks man =]
[14:27] <bazhang> !12.10 | ceil
[14:27] <read> Argure: E: invalid operation show
[14:27] <ceil> bazhang: so it'd use quantal_i386? cheers o/
[14:27] <rifter> bazhang, oh ok.. so there is a tweajk tool app that determines if the regular alt-tab app is going to be responding or whatever? do you know how to get to that
[14:27] <Argure> eh
[14:28] <Argure> just run $ sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg xinit
[14:28] <Argure> make sure both are installed
[14:28] <locojay1> using 11.10 i get the same error
[14:28] <bazhang> rifter, sure, just install from the repos
[14:28] <Argure> and $ cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[14:28] <bazhang> gnome-tweak-tool   is the package name rifter
[14:28] <rifter> bazhang, ah okay so it's a separate app.. I'll look for it.. thanks
[14:29] <rifter> bazhang, oh thanks
[14:29] <read> Argure: end message is '0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
[14:30] <Argure> okay, and $ cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[14:30] <Argure> ?
[14:30] <read> Argure: no such file or directory
[14:30] <Argure> well
[14:30] <Argure> there's your problem :P
[14:31] <read> Argure: lol, what is the problem?
[14:31] <Argure> your xorg.conf doesn't exist, let me check real quick how to recreate that file.
[14:33] <Argure> Do you have the package xserver-xorg-core installed ?
[14:35] <read> Argure: by using the command 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core' ?
[14:35] <rifter> bazhang, hmm I don't see anything about alt-tabbing in gnome-tweak-tool.. there was a plugins thingie but that was blank. it seems weird for alt-tab to no longer be supported in gnome by default, and not configurable anywhere else, but ok
[14:35] <Argure> read: yes
[14:35] <bazhang> rifter, you are in gnome-shell?
[14:36] <joapuipe> Hi. I'm having problems to login to Ubuntu. When I try to login through lightdm, the login screen keeps coming back. I tried to add a test user through the console, but it does not work either. Any suggestion?
[14:36] <read> Argure: message says '0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded
[14:36] <read> Argure: how can i find out what is that 1 not upgraded?
[14:37] <rifter> bazhang, I guess so.. I mean I picked "classic gnome" when I logged in. I'm having a lot of window manager problems since the updates to compiz and unity yesterday
[14:37] <shadow98> anybody know how i reset all compiz settings back to default
[14:37] <read> joapuipe: I have that same issue. After having that issue now I boot directly into command prompt
[14:37] <shadow98> i messed up things with the compiz config settings manager
[14:37] <bazhang> rifter, classic gnome would be gnome-panel aka fallback session
[14:37] <Argure> read: apt-get dist-upgrade should show all packages but it's a potentially destructive command and I wouldn't recommend it.
[14:37] <diverdude> How do i restart the network manager from console?
[14:38] <rifter> bazhang, so gnome-panel is supposed to do the alt-tabbing?
[14:38] <Argure> however, try $ X -config ~/xorg.conf
[14:38] <joapuipe> read: I'm installing GNOME to see if it's a Unity or LightDM problem...
[14:38] <read> I tried all installing lightdm and I didn't have any luck
[14:39] <joapuipe> Does anyone know which logs should I look at?
[14:39] <metaphysician> "Ubuntu Spyware: What to Do?" http://www.fsf.org/blogs/rms/ubuntu-spyware-what-to-do
[14:40] <joapuipe> I updated the kernel and other packages yesterday, does anyone know how to get a list of the packages installed/updated at some specific day?
[14:40] <jrib> !adlens | metaphysician
[14:40] <jrib> metaphysician: and honestly, that article is just fud
[14:41] <read> Argure: that command gives me your kernel header for kernel 3.50-19-generic cannot be found
[14:41] <Argure> read: if recreating the xorg.conf does not resolve it, I would recommend trying $ drakx11
[14:41] <rifter> bazhang, is there a log from gnome that might tell me what has crashed?
[14:41] <shadow98> ok i figured that out...
[14:41] <Argure> joapuipe: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[14:41] <shadow98> compiz settings manager all options are greyed out...
[14:41] <read> Argure: the final message is Setting up linux-image-generic (3.5.0.19.22) ...
[14:41] <joapuipe> Argure: thanks
[14:42] <joapuipe> Looks like it's a Unity problem.
[14:42] <joapuipe> I installed gdm and gnome
[14:42] <joapuipe> and tried to login using gdm + unity and it failed to
[14:42] <joapuipe> but it did loged in to Gnome
[14:42] <metaphysician> jrib: what do you meand 'fud'? It is a serious thing.
[14:42] <diverdude> How do i restart the network manager from console?
[14:42] <mustu> hi, how I can use netfilter to force a specific protocol traffic to exit through a specific interface?
[14:42] <metaphysician> s/meand/mean/
[14:42] <read> Argure: just type drakx11
[14:42] <rifter> joapuipe, if you look at /var/log/apt, there is a term.log and a history.log. both of those will show you packages installed on a given day
[14:42] <Argure> read: yes
[14:43] <jrib> metaphysician: I'd love to discuss it with you in #ubuntu-offtopic if you want.  Do you have a support question?  I assumed you just wanted to know how to disable the amazon search.
[14:43] <joapuipe> rifter: thanks
[14:43] <read> Argure: it says drakx11: command not found
[14:43] <k1l_> Argure: that is no ubuntu tool
[14:43] <rifter> joapuipe, ah man.. I am having unity problems too since yesterday when there was an update
[14:44] <Argure> k1l_: which one is the ubuntu equivalent again? :P
[14:44] <Argure> nvidia-config? :o
[14:45] <rifter> Argure, nvidia-config will set the configuration for a system that has the proprietary nvidia driver installed
[14:45] <rifter> Argure, resolution, sync, performance settings, etc
[14:45] <Argure> if anything it seems his xorg.conf is missing from etc
[14:45] <diverdude> How do i restart the network manager from console?
[14:45] <Argure> and X -configure should recreate it in /root
[14:45] <k1l_> nvidia xconfig Argure
[14:46] <read> Argure: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1416931/
[14:46] <mac_> somebody help me..i install lighdm in ubntu minimal..i got login manager..but i can not log into system..
[14:46] <k1l_> Argure: you dont need a xorg.conf
[14:46] <k1l_> since ages :/
[14:46] <mac_> please help meeeeeeeeeee
[14:47] <shadow98> compiz settings manager options are greyed out
[14:47] <shadow98> any ideas
[14:47] <read> Argure: you see the message Fatal error: no screen found?
[14:47] <bateer> I want to find a new friend, I know this place is not chat, but I will only in this way looking for foreign friends, would like to make friends with me?
[14:47] <bateer> I want to find a new friend, I know this place is not chat, but I will only in this way looking for foreign friends, would like to make friends with me?
[14:47] <bateer> I want to find a new friend, I know this place is not chat, but I will only in this way looking for foreign friends, would like to make friends with me?
[14:47] <FloodBot1> bateer: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:47] <Argure> yeah, and as far as I know that indicates a missing or disfunctional xorg.conf
[14:48] <shadow98> i found answer - If you unselect the option Automatic plugin sorting in CCSM’s preference window (in Plugin list tab), the options will be grayed out in the main window.
[14:48] <k1l_> read: run a "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" after that is done succesfully remove the nvidia driver you isntalled before
[14:48] <k1l_> !ot | bateer
[14:48] <mstenta> Hey all, this might not be the best place to ask, but someone here probably knows: I'm monitoring a web server using Munin. On my memory graph, it shows a green line representing "Committed memory" that is consistently above the top of the real memory.  What does this mean?
[14:49] <bateer> k1l
[14:50] <k1l_> mstenta: you are using swap or shared ram for your ram demand
[14:50] <read> k1l how do I remove nvidia driver I installed previously?
[14:51] <bazhang> bateer, join #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:51] <MaynardWater> Hi, I have been trying to use openvpn to vpn into a network. It appears that the vpn connection is successful with "Initialization sequence complete" after I run "sudo openvpn --config blah.opvn", but I am still unable to ssh into any of the network machines, does anyone have any advice on how to trouble shoot?
[14:51] <read> k1l: i did what you said beside removing nvidia bc I don't know how to
[14:51] <bateer> #ubuntu??
[14:51] <k1l_> read: "sudo apt-get remove nvidia-current-updates"
[14:51] <bazhang> bateer, NO    #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:52] <DJones> bateer: Type "/join #ubuntu-offtopic" without the quotes, that is more of a general chat channel
[14:52] <bateer> Taught me
[14:52] <read> k1l: failure to match apple Inc. with LENOVO.
[14:53] <k1l_> read: what?
[14:53] <Nach0z> ?
[14:53] <read> k1l: update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-c.5.0-19-generic
[14:54] <read> k1l: i'm posting the message the prompt leaves
[14:54] <k1l_> "dpkg -l |grep nvidia|pastebinit"
[14:56] <read> k1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1416956/
[14:56] <mstenta> k1l_: thanks for the reply. I can see in top and in Munin that my swap usage is minimal (about 50 mb)… so maybe it's the "shared" memory you mentioned? I'm not familiar with that, but I'll look into it. thanks!
[14:57] <k1l_> read: "sudo apt-get remove nvidia*"
[14:58] <xwalk> Currently setting up my partitions to have /home on a SSD with symlinks to directories on a spinner that will contain bigger files such as movies, pictures, music etc. Currently running an edited version  of this command: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving#Copy_.2BAC8-home_to_the_New_Partition. I'm using brackets in my command to specify certain directories to be copied, but it seems to be copying everything regard
[14:58] <xwalk> less.
[14:59] <read> k1l: processing triggers for man-db ..
[14:59] <k1l_> read: then remove/rename the xorg.conf with "sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup1"
[14:59] <k1l_> read: yes, give him some time
[14:59] <read> k1l: so 2 were removed
[14:59] <k1l_> after that do reboot, that should boot up with the nouveau driver
[15:00] <k1l_> i have to leave for a now, so good luck.
[15:01] <read> k1l: mv: cannot stat /etc/X11/xorg.conf: No such file or directory
[15:01] <read> k1l: thanks for what you could help me with
[15:02] <zolgar> Hello, I'm trying to see what driver I have installed. I used `sudo apt-get install nvidia-current-updates' in the terminal, but I'm not sure how to check if it worked.
[15:02] <myhero> Hausas: hii
[15:02] <Hausas> myhero, hi
[15:02] <Hausas> But i'm busy
[15:02] <read> can anyone else help me to continue where k1l left off?
[15:03] <Hausas> ok, gotta go
[15:03] <myhero> Hausas: can u help setup up ftp of laptop with android over wifi ?
[15:03] <myhero> Hausas: ohh ok no problem
[15:04] <myhero> MonkeyDust: can u help with ftp ?
[15:05] <nilla> I have a billion problems with my new Ubuntu install. I'm coming from Linux Mint, Debian Edition, and I changed because I wanted Steam to work. Now nothing works and what does works in stupid ways. I don't know how much of this is just technical issues or how much of it is seriously flawed design mentalities, but I'll start from the beginning if anyone is willing to help.
[15:05] <read> Argure: what k1l did by removing nvidia* helped bc now I can boot into the regular ubuntu. But now I still have the problem where my os freezes when I boot after the login screen
[15:05] <zolgar> How do I run as root?
[15:05] <nilla> First off, I didn't know what the music player was, and since there was no music in the music tab, it took me a while to find the music player
[15:05] <erictr1ck> what does SWT stand for in the systray-whitelist?
[15:06] <nilla> I thought it would use Banshee, it uses something that is not Banshee, and I found it by messing with the audio button.
[15:06] <nilla> It immediately started scanning my library and instantly started giving me a bunch of errors
[15:06] <b14d3> zolgar: You can do line by line by typing sudo if you have permissions, or you can set the mode by typing sudo su
[15:06] <nilla> I don't have a copy of them but it was something along the lines of "Sorry, Ubuntu is having trouble!" or something like that
[15:07] <nilla> I couldn't close the program, so I went into another console and killed it manually
[15:07] <nilla> that somehow restarted the computer
[15:07] <nilla> I also couldn't get root unless I logged in and used sudo su
[15:07] <nilla> that's just annoying
[15:07] <xwalk> Really starting to consider a fresh install and just using my backups. I hate storage.
[15:08] <nilla> I don't know what half the programs are on this thing, and I can't find even an IRC client
[15:08] <nilla> I installed one but it said that I had unmet dependencies, so I forced the install (I dont know why irssi would require dependencies but there you are)
[15:08] <nilla> everything is slow
[15:08] <nilla> everyting is a hassle to use
[15:08] <zolgar> b14d3:  im confused as to what that means. I open up a terminal, sh <file here> and it telles me I must run it as root to install (its an nvidia driver)
[15:08] <nilla> nothing makes any sense in this os
[15:08] <FloodBot1> nilla: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:08] <nilla> I will NEVER reccomend Ubuntu to new people
[15:09] <b14d3> zolgar: That's fine, instead of sh <file> type sudo sh <file>. Assuming that your account has the permissions, it will ask for your password (if you have one). Type that in and you should be good.
[15:09] <nilla> If I recommended Ubuntu to new linux users they would go straight back to Windows because it's all "pretty" and no functionality whatsoever. It's as though this entire distro had its decisions made by designers, aka the stupidest people in the world to trust with a functioning OS.
[15:09] <b14d3> nilla: I'm sorry you're having problems, but everyone was new at one point. I'm not even fantastic.
[15:10] <jrib> nilla: keep in mind this channel is for support.  What is your support question?
[15:10] <zolgar> b14d3: That worked pretty much. Its just telling me I need to close an 'X server' now. Whats that?
[15:10] <nilla> I am not new. I have been using linux for years and this is by far the worst iteration of Ubuntu I've used. I remember 3 or 4 years ago Ubuntu was really great. I don't even know how to do ANYTHING on this thing, how can I expect NEW people to use it?
[15:10] <nilla> Anyway, that's my gripe. I hate everything about it. Bye.
[15:11] <b14d3> zolgar: Unfortunately, I'm not sure. You may have to ask someone else. My knowledge is very limited, but I thought I could at least help you run that command as root.
[15:12] <read> after fixing my nvidia problem now my computer freezes right after I login into ubuntu 12.10. What can I do to prevent the freeze?
[15:15] <argove> can anyone recommend a good pdf reader on ubuntu (ideally that supports highlighting)
[15:15] <jsn> I have a ubuntu laptop with only a USB cable. I want to move files from the laptop to my new machine (it's my svn repo)
[15:16] <argove> jsn: no network between them?
[15:17] <read> after fixing my nvidia problem now my computer freezes right after I login into ubuntu 12.10. What can I do to prevent the freeze?
[15:17] <Nach0z> sounds like you didn't fix your nvidia :P
[15:18] <jsn> argove: Sorry, nope.
[15:19] <argove> just to be clear -- neither machine can access the internet, and the machines can't talk to eachother, right?
[15:19] <mac_> i can not login in my ubuntu
[15:19] <mac_> reboune to login manager
[15:20] <mac_> when i put my pass login succesfully bu rebounce to login manager
[15:20] <DarkSim> I accidentally chose Swedish on my Ubuntu installation, I tried to change it back into English but some places like the software centre titles and descriptions are still in swedish
[15:21] <Zogot> Hello All. I'm looking to getting the Acer Aspire One D270 that uses the Intel Atom N2600 (which has the onboard Intel GMA 3600).  Browsing around the net, I find a lot of threads about poor support for the PowerVR GMA 3600, although a few lines about it being fixed in ubuntu 12.10.  Has it been fixed, or is it still a processor/gfx component I should avoid if I wish to have higher than 800x600
[15:21] <Zogot> or the ability to watch videos?
[15:22] <mindbreaker> hey guys ... i have to configure a vpn server and i get a connection already and a ip address etc., but i can't access other devices/services that are in that vlan .. can anyone help me? pls :)
[15:22] <Zael> imo, you should try to avoid cpu/gpu combos completely and if you can avoid on-board graphics all together
[15:22] <mindbreaker> it's an openvpn server
[15:23] <LordDeath> what do you guys think about this? https://www.fsf.org/blogs/rms/ubuntu-spyware-what-to-do
[15:23] <LordDeath> "If you ever recommend or redistribute GNU/Linux, please remove Ubuntu from the distros you recommend or redistribute."
[15:23] <jrib> LordDeath: #ubuntu-offtopic; support only here
[15:24] <LordDeath> ok
[15:24] <jsn> If I plug a USB wire into my ubuntu laptop, can I mount it as a USB drive?
[15:25] <read> after fixing my nvidia problem now my computer freezes right after I login into ubuntu 12.10. What can I do to prevent the freeze?
[15:25] <b14d3> jsn: Is it feasible, given the amount of data you want to transfer, to use a flash drive or external hard drive?
[15:25] <Zogot> Zael: I am mainly going to be using it on long public transportation I have for a new job.  Something I can work on for the few hours I am on my journey
[15:26] <Zogot> Zael: Specs, ability and so on isn't a huge requirement, moreso that it wont burn my leg and that it can run ubuntu (or any other distro)
[15:27] <b14d3> Zogot: I'm still with Zael on it. If you follow what he said, the video playback will be smoother. I've had issues with it in the past.
[15:28] <Zogot> b14d3, Zael, anything you can recommend within the same pricepoint (250-300 euros)
[15:36] <b14d3> I'd have to do some looking, which I can't while at work :\ Apologies.
[15:43] <TheWeatherGuy> @find kernel
[15:44] <bibi23> Hi, when using the "top" command, is there a way to search for a process by its name, I can't find anything when typing "h" for help. thx
[15:44] <jrib> bibi23: htop might me easier to use but let me check top
[15:45] <jrib> bibi23: you can use L in top
[15:45] <Abhijit> bibi23, if you want to look for firefox proces you can also use top | grep fire
[15:46] <Abhijit> jrib, i wont find any option acalled -L or -l in man top?
[15:46] <jrib> Abhijit: just pressing L in top's interactive interface will let one search
[15:47] <Abhijit> ok
[15:47] <bibi23> Abhijit: that's what I've tried first, but it didn't work, I don't think it's possible as top doesn't output anything to standard output, but it's kind of a program I guess
[15:47] <jrib> Abhijit: you can go to manpage section about "SEARCHING"
[15:47] <Abhijit> bibi23, i just tested it. it works here
[15:47] <Abhijit> jrib, ok. thanks
[15:47] <jrib> bibi23: maybe we should ask, what do you actually want to accomplish?
[15:48] <bibi23> Abhijit: ah yes you're right it works, I just had to wait at it's not immediate
[15:49] <Abhijit> right.
[15:49] <jrib> bibi23: might want to use "top -b | grep firefox" for batch mode
[15:49] <bibi23> jrib: I just wanted to find a process by its name in order to kill it
[15:49] <jrib> bibi23: any reason you don't kill it by name with pkill?
[15:50] <bibi23> jrib: well I don't exactly know the full name but just a part of it
[15:50] <jrib> bibi23: that's fine
[15:50] <jrib> bibi23: pkill accepts a pattern
[15:51] <bibi23> jrib: ah great I didn't know, I'm going to check the doc thx
[15:51] <jrib> bibi23: otherwise I would just use "ps -ef" instead of top and grep that output.  Or if you want something interactive, you can use htop (it lets you select a row and kill it straight from htop)
[15:52] <jiffe98> what's the difference between a normal boot sequence and booting after ubuntu froze during boot?  the font seems to be a different size and I'm thinking that is contributing to why the second boot always works
[15:53] <bibi23> jrib: I've just installed htop, I can filter and kill from here, that's perfect for a beginner like me, thx
[15:54] <jrib> bibi23: ok if you want more options... you might try "gnome-system-monitor" if you have a gui.  And finally, if you're trying to click a graphical application, you can run "xkill" and then just click on the application
[15:56] <bibi23> jrib: yes it was a graphical application, but usually when it doesn't respond and I try to close it, there is a window telling me do you want to quit it (IIRC it's called brute quit or force quit), here it didn't happen so I had to kill it through htop
[15:56] <jrib> bibi23: k
[15:58] <lab> I am trying to setup grub from a live cd. However, 'grub' from a terminal says "command not found". Am I not supposed to be able to run grub from a live cd?
[15:59] <W|cKeD> i tried to kill a process not once but many times just wonderin after ityped sudo kill PID the process itself gone for just a seconds then came back again :(
[15:59] <Abhijit> lab, grub-install /dev/sdX
[15:59] <Abhijit> lab, oh wait
[15:59] <Abhijit> lab,  by trying to setup you mean you are trying to modify existing grub or want to restore lost grub?
[15:59] <lab> Abhijit, even if /dev/sdX is a windows partition? (I have deleted the linux partition on this drive, and now want to only boot windows)
[16:00] <Abhijit> lab, you are delted linux and want only windows then restore windows mbr?
[16:00] <b14d3> W|cKeD: What process?
[16:01] <W|cKeD> b14d3, .ruby.bin
[16:01] <Xotix> hi, I installed ubuntu on a vm. I alo installed samba during the installation. now I can't find /etc/init.d/samba, i just can find /etc/init.d/smbd but I don't know if this is a shortcut for samba.
[16:01] <lab> Abhijit, I tried that process (fixmbr  from the windows Repair prompt), but it didn't seem to work. Everything is still definitely in tact though, because I have another drive that has the boot loader setup to boot the windows partition in question, and it still boots
[16:02] <aubreypwd> I am having an issue where all my windows are going grey, I can't access them, click on anything. Mouse still moves and I can CTRL+ALT F2 to get a terminal to sudo reboot. It just happens suddenly in Ubuntu 3d, not in 2d (so far)
[16:02] <b14d3> Xotix: smbd is the right directory, if memory serves. It's not a shortcut, they just changed some of their local software infrastructure.
[16:03] <MonkeyDust> Xotix  type file [filename] to find if it's a shortcut
[16:03] <Abhijit> lab, I am not sure if you can really install and use grub without /boot partition of linux. ask for help in ##windows
[16:03] <MonkeyDust> find out*
[16:04] <Xotix> MonkeyDust ubuntu server 12.10 64, where can I look up the changes? it links to /lib/init/upstart-job
[16:05] <aubreypwd> I am having an issue where all my windows are going grey, I can't access them, click on anything. Mouse still moves and I can CTRL+ALT F2 to get a terminal to sudo reboot. It just happens suddenly in Ubuntu 3d, not in 2d (so far)...my System has been working fine for over 5 months or so but (I think after an update) my system started doing this.
[16:06] <MonkeyDust> Xotix  you mean a 'what's new' review, or see what files have changed?
[16:07] <Kaveh8> hi all
[16:08] <Kaveh8> i am using ubuntu 11.10 and gnome 3. my subwindows opens under the main window.
[16:08] <Kaveh8> for example
[16:08] <Kaveh8> http://ubuntuone.com/00cHn7NJYGjxGAyZJwHNQn
[16:08] <Xotix> MonkeyDust, how ubuntu changed the origin file structure/config like they did with apache. I'm new to samba, so I'm not sure they even changed anything, I'm just assuming it.
[16:09] <Nyhcjedi> Hello all, I am looking for some clarity with ubuntu 12.10 and the online accounts feature
[16:09] <the_lord> Hello, I'm trying to install ubuntu on an aspire s5, and I need to start with nodmraid the installer
[16:09] <the_lord> I do it, but the device mapper starts it no matter what
[16:09] <the_lord> how can I do?
[16:11] <Xotix> MonkeyDust ah, I think I get it with service smbd... Needto read about that service thing. Thanks
[16:11] <Kaveh8> i don't wanna opens sunwindows under the main window. what can i do? http://ubuntuone.com/00cHn7NJYGjxGAyZJwHNQn
[16:11] <gmachine_24> Greetings. Is there a preferred program to run as a virtual machine - such as virtual box - or something else? This is my first effort and is mostly an educational effort (mine).
[16:11] <MonkeyDust> Xotix  good luck, hope you find it
[16:11] <bazhang> gmachine_24, vbox
[16:11] <Nyhcjedi> gmachine I had luck with virtual box in the past
[16:11] <bazhang> there's a channel #vbox  as well
[16:12] <gmachine_24> bazhang, and, not to be too dense or anything, vbox=virtualbox.... ?? right?
[16:12] <Nyhcjedi> anyone very familair with 12.10 online accounts feature?
[16:12] <bazhang> gmachine_24, yep
[16:12] <gmachine_24> ok. thanks.
[16:13] <Arash> hello :)
[16:13] <Kaveh8> hello Arash
[16:13] <Arash> how can I change the default player of .m4a files from Movie player to rythmbox ?
[16:13] <MonkeyDust> Arash  richt click on a mp
[16:14] <MonkeyDust> Arash  richt click on a m4a file, properties, open with
[16:14] <Kaveh8> Arash : rast kelik kon roosh, propertis, open with, bad rythmbox ro entekhab kono set as default ro bezan
[16:14] <Arash> MonkeyDust I tried that but when I select multiple files It doesn't work
[16:15] <Arash> It doesn't have set as default also Kaveh
[16:15] <gmachine_24> Arash, do you have permissions from where you are working?
[16:15] <MonkeyDust> Arash  try system setings, details
[16:15] <gmachine_24> Arash, do you get error messages?
[16:15] <Arash> MonkeyDust : Music : Rythmbox Video movieplayer
[16:15] <Arash> Its all set
[16:16] <Arash> and yet It Opens .m4a files with Movie Player
[16:16] <Arash> I do
[16:16] <Kaveh8> Arash boro System Setting, System Info, Set Defafault application
[16:17] <Arash> non of those actually worked guys !
[16:17] <Arash> It plays .m4a as a Video file ...
[16:17] <Arash> by default
[16:18] <Kaveh8> http://ubuntuone.com/00cHn7NJYGjxGAyZJwHNQn              anyone khnows how i can change setting of opening subwindows?
[16:18] <Arash> ok I've found the solution > right click > Properties > Open with > Rythmbox > Set as Default
[16:19] <Kaveh8> Arash : man ke hamoon aval goftam, movafagh bashi
[16:20] <Arash> merCi kaveh jan ;)
[16:20] <Kaveh8> Arash ghorbanat :D
[16:20] <MonkeyDust> Arash  try xine or vlc
[16:21] <unityman> I like vlc
[16:21] <unityman> got to run have a good day. :P
[16:22] <Kaveh8> what's the normal range for loadaverage in uptime command?
[16:24] <jiffe98> my supermicro machine seems to freeze on boot occasionally, if I hard reset it, it boots fine the second time but with decreased resolution, how would I force that second state?
[16:25] <Kaveh8> what's the normal range for loadaverage in uptime command?
[16:29] <andybrine> afternoon
[16:30] <andybrine> anyone here from the uk and have problems playing cotent on 4od?
[16:31] <IdleOne> andybrine: might try #ubuntu-uk, probably more chance of finding some help there with this issue
[16:32] <andybrine> thanks IdleOne
[16:32] <andybrine> :)
[16:34] <andybrine> has anyone come across DRM issues before?
[16:35] <andybrine> there are certain sites that are right protected
[16:36] <Kaveh8> \quit
[16:38] <Dougie187> Does anyone want to brainstorm ideas for legitimate reasons ubuntu would try to read areas of ram owned by processes that are "not dying"?
[16:39] <MonkeyDust> Dougie187  try #ubuntu-offtopic, this channel is for support
[16:39] <Dougie187> ok
[16:40] <chipcash> hello all
[16:41] <chipcash> question
[16:42] <chipcash> I am currently running Ubuntu on a flash drive and want to know if I download something does it save it to the flash drive?
[16:43] <MonkeyDust> chipcash  a live session?
[16:43] <chipcash> Live?
[16:44] <chipcash> sorry I am new to this
[16:44] <MonkeyDust> if it's a live session, it's saved until you reboot
[16:44] <chipcash> oic
[16:44] <chipcash> Is there ant way of saving files to the flash?
[16:44] <rumpe1> chipcash, depends. If you created it with "persistence" it will store them on the drive i guess... somewhere..
[16:45] <chipcash> What is persistance?
[16:45] <rumpe1> chipcash, or just mount any other partition (that isn't a ramdisk) and save the file there
[16:45] <MonkeyDust> chipcash  did you select 'try ubuntu' when you booted?
[16:45] <chipcash> yes
[16:46] <MonkeyDust> chipcash  ok, then it's live and not saved on the flash drive
[16:46] <chipcash> I want to use the flash as my computer
[16:46] <rumpe1> MonkeyDust, are you sure?
[16:47] <MonkeyDust> rumpe1  try it, you'll see, you can save it to some other place, tho
[16:47] <chipcash> If I select default will it save it?
[16:47] <chipcash> I guess I should get a cloud account
[16:48] <MonkeyDust> chipcash  as rumpe1 said, guess you want 'persisent install' on the usb drive
[16:48] <kapz> hipitihop, I want to know if anyone is being asked for admin password in order to install updates through update manager
[16:48] <chipcash> how do I persitance install? I used Unetbootin
[16:48] <MonkeyDust> kapz  yes, it's normal
[16:49] <chipcash> I like the idea of carring my personal PC hardrive around in a flash drive
[16:49] <MonkeyDust> chipcash  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[16:49] <chipcash> thank you
[16:50] <kapz> MonkeyDust, but I am not being asked on my laptop, not even once! Is it safe? On the other hand on desktop I have to enter password everytime.
[16:51] <MonkeyDust> kapz  two thoughts: 1- in a live session, the passowrd isnt asked    2- someone may have disabled the password for allt things apt
[16:52] <b14d3> It's possible that the keyring is also allowing it access. I had mine set to do that when I used the gui
[16:52] <MonkeyDust> kapz  and yes, the repos are safe (be careful if you install from outside the repos)
[16:52] <kapz> MonkeyDust, eliminate scenario no.1 and 2. I am the sole user.
[16:53] <kapz> oh okay that's what I wanted to know, thanks MonkeyDust :)
[16:53] <MonkeyDust> kapz  then it's odd it shouldnt ask for a password
[16:53] <MonkeyDust> ok :)
[16:53] <kapz> yeah it is odd indeed.
[16:54] <chipcash> LLL Long Live Linux
[16:55] <KScorp> hi
[16:56] <shadow98> dependency libx264-120 is not satisfiable <<<<<<<<<<<<--------- installing splashtop on 12.10
[16:56] <shadow98> how do i fix this?
[16:57] <mysterious> hi, very neat. ubuntu is greatly succeeding in pissing me off
[16:57] <mysterious> Besides the major instability - which all people i know experience - The Installation is a chaos since 12.10. When I am booting the Setup stick nothing more than a slice of the desktop screen shows up... i.e.: a slice of monitor width and approx. 10 pixels height... is there a workaround for this?
[16:57] <fishcooker> i've problem with my ubuntu device
[16:57] <b14d3> shadow98: Try sudo apt-get install libx264-120
[16:57] <KScorp> ok.it now works
[16:57] <fishcooker> bluetooth device
[16:57] <fishcooker> i think the kernel module not loaded
[16:58] <fishcooker> is the hardware not supported
[16:58] <fishcooker> asus a43sj
[16:58] <shadow98> b14d3: Unable to locate package libx264-120
[16:59] <b14d3> shadow98: Alright, one sec let me take a look at something
[17:00] <DrManhattan> mysterious, make sure your monitor is plugged in properly.
[17:01] <mysterious> DrManhattan, it is i have checked it ~5times - anyways it's a dualboot system and windows is running well
[17:01] <shadow98> b14d3: thanks
[17:01] <b14d3> shadow98: Going to take a shot in the dark, try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libx264-120
[17:01] <woozly> Guys, how to install Boost c++ library? :/ I have install it, but when I try to compile some example code from boost.org, with g++ -lboost_regex example.cpp -o boost .. I've got mass of errors :////
[17:01] <woozly> I don't know how to be with it :(
[17:02] <woozly> I have install it via bootstrap.sh
[17:02] <DrManhattan> mysterious, that is a mystery indeed! what GPU?
[17:02] <shadow98> b14d3: same thing...i know this worked on 12.04
[17:03] <mysterious> DrManhattan, It is a GeForce 8800GTS 640MB RAM and has worked very well up to 12.04
[17:03] <jrib> woozly: you can find the boost libraries in the repositories.  You can install them with apt.  I'm not sure what you did to install them, but if you didn't use apt, you should probably undo it
[17:03] <fishcooker> asus a4sj with windows* with BT work, but not with 10.04 LTS
[17:04] <DrManhattan> mysterious, on my 570, 12.04 works great with the exception of having no output between the grub menu and the first login prompt
[17:04] <DrManhattan> Maybe this is the death knell for nouveau, the driver from hades
[17:05] <mysterious> :/
[17:05] <jrib> mysterious: is there a reason you're doing a fresh install instead of upgrading, or did I misunderstand you?
[17:05]  * DrManhattan takes nouveau for a talk behind the woodshed
[17:05] <mysterious> jrib, in fact i had to change the hdd and wanted to have it fresh
[17:06] <mysterious> ^^
[17:06] <aguadito> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UtNF-Le2L0 - Full version of Break The Taboo -- narrated by Morgan Freeman -- documentary to end the war on drugs
[17:06] <jrib> !ot | aguadito
[17:06] <bazhang> aguadito, dont paste that here
[17:07] <aguadito> bazhang,  end the war on drugs, fascist
[17:07] <MonkeyDust> aguadito  wrong channel
[17:07] <jrib> mysterious: well you should probably file a bug, or comment on an existing one if the installer isn't working correctly.  But if you just want to get an install on there, you might use the minimal install cd, then throw in ubuntu-desktop.  Afterwards, you might still have issues with your screen, but you can work on troubleshooting from an already installed system
[17:07] <Hiro`> hi all, i'm having a problem with the =emacsclient= command in the shell. I have ubuntu 12.04, with emacs 23 running and server mode switched on. When I call emacsclient from the bash shell, it throws up and error message: "emacsclient: command not found".
[17:07] <Hiro`>  
[17:08] <b14d3> shadow98: That's really bizarre. What did you say the software you were trying to install again was?
[17:10] <jrib> mysterious: there's also some option you can select when the install cd is first starting, but I forget how.
[17:11] <mysterious> hm
[17:11] <compdoc> wow, netflix seems to run on Ubuntu now
[17:11] <MonkeyDust> compdoc  yes, but with wine, IIRC
[17:11] <compdoc> no, without wine
[17:11] <mysterious> jrib, i think i'll try an alternate cd (it was completely textbased (terminal based) wasn't it?)
[17:12] <jrib> mysterious: it doesn't exist anymore :)  But you can use the minimal or server
[17:12] <mysterious> ;_; what are the developers doing
[17:12] <jrib> !nomodeset | mysterious
[17:12] <jrib> mysterious: try that
[17:12] <mysterious> jrib, ok
[17:13] <jrib> mysterious: some pretty pictures here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Changing
[17:13] <bjorn_> have you people tried sn0wl1nux
[17:13] <jrib> !ot | bjorn_
[17:13] <bjorn_> opinions?
[17:13] <compdoc> ooops - maybe it is wine
[17:13] <bjorn_> ok
[17:16] <Hiro`> does the emacsclient command need to be installed somehow? there's no indication that this is necessary from the documentation, but it seems very odd that the shell oesn't recognise the command. it has a man page for it.
[17:16] <mysterious> jrib, :D nomodeset did the trick
[17:17] <jrib> mysterious: cool
[17:17] <jrib> Hiro`: I don't use emacs much, but I can tell you that I have emacsclient here.  what does this return: ls /usr/bin/emacsclient*
[17:18] <Hiro`> jrib: it returns the following (in green text): "/usr/bin/emacsclient.emacs23"
[17:19] <jrib> Hiro`: interesting.  When you do "hash -r" in your shell, followed by "emacslcient", what happens?
[17:20] <Hiro`> jrib: it returns: emacsclient: command not found
[17:20] <Hiro`>  
[17:20] <jrib> Hiro`: reinstall the emacs23-bin-common
[17:20] <jrib> package
[17:21] <woozly> Guys, I have manually remove some apt-get installed packages... and Now I want to reinstall it, but apt-get says, like: newest version installed (but I haven't it)
[17:21] <woozly> how I can remove info about installed packages
[17:22] <Hiro`> jrib: Sorry, I am very new to ubuntu and the shell. the command I want is: sudo apt-get reinstall emacs23-bin-common?
[17:22] <MonkeyDust> Hiro`  type emacs, see what it shows
[17:22] <jrib> Hiro`: yes, that should work
[17:22] <mindbreaker> is there anybody who knows something about vpn server's? especially with openvpn?
[17:22] <Hiro`> MonkeyDust: emacs works fine. I'm using it right now as an irc client.
[17:22] <mindbreaker> i need help with configuring openvpn
[17:23] <jrib> Hiro`: the postinst script for emacs23-bin-common is supposed to setup an alternative for emacsclient.  You seem to not have that for some reason even though you have /usr/bin/emacsclient.emacs23
[17:24] <jrib> mindbreaker: you're more likely to get help if you just ask your actual question; if someone knows the answer they will try to help you
[17:26] <Hiro`> jrib: the shell returned invalid operation when I tried "reinstall", so I ran the same command but with "install" and it returned (a bunch of stuff but the main thing seems to be): emacs23-bin-common is already the newest version.
[17:26] <Hiro`>  
[17:26] <jrib> Hiro`: do apt-get install --reinstall
[17:28] <Hiro`> jrib: it returns: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[17:28] <dballester> hi to all, Ubuntu 12.04 32bits. As root I execute "update-rc.d -f mysql remove" but after reboot mysql is up and running automatically, anyone else aware of this strange behavior?
[17:28] <jrib> Hiro`: sorry, I meant: apt-get install --reinstall emacs23-bin-common
[17:29] <jrib> dballester: ubuntu uses upstart and mysql is an upstart script
[17:29] <jrib> !upstart | dballester
[17:30] <jrib> dballester: you can read about disabling services in upstart at: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#override-files
[17:30] <dballester> ok, that means that we have a mix of old/new ways to manage the auto startup of "services"?
[17:30] <mindbreaker> okay, i configurated a vpn server (openvpn) that is behind a nat secure router, i already get a connection and i can also ping the server with client and the other way round too .. but i can't ping other hosts that are in the same vlan as the vpn server. im a newbie in vpn configuring and i hope someone is able to halp me :)
[17:30] <jrib> dballester: ideally, all the scripts would be converted to upstart now.  Sadly, that is not the case, so yes you need to check if a script exists in /etc/init .  If it does, then it's managed by upstart.
[17:32] <Dulcin> I'm hoping someone can help me here: I updated to 12.10, unity is not loading anymore and after logging in I only see my wallpaper. I have tried many tutorials online to fix it, from what I gathered my ATI (legacy) drivers are slow on updating and do not support xorg 1.13 yet, so I tried removing them, but the problem seems to remain.
[17:33] <Hiro`> jrib: that seems to have done it!
[17:34] <confrey> hi everybody
[17:34] <confrey> I need help about configuring a java applet on my web server;  the test page I did doesn't find the applet, and I don't know why
[17:35] <dballester> mindbreaker, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-951733.html
[17:35] <Hiro`> jrib: thanks a lot for walking me through that. cheers all.
[17:35] <jrib> Hiro`: no problem
[17:35] <confrey> can anybody help me?
[17:36] <dballester> thanks jrib for the info
[17:36] <neo1691> Hello guys!! I just ran a package update on my ubuntu 12.04 x64 and now i have a new file manager (the old one is there too) If i have a mounted a removable drive, it shows in the sidepane but when i click on it to open it, the device is unmounted. Also I automounted my windows drive whenever ubuntu starts. Whenever i click on then in the sidepane, an error message pops up saying that only root can mount them. None of these issue happens with the old file
[17:36] <neo1691> manager. Any solution?
[17:42] <mindbreaker> do i need an own vlan specially for vpn? i have the vpn server in the same vlan as the vpn clients get addressed
[17:42] <JamesJRH> lhavelund: Hey what? I'm English.
[17:42] <goddard> I am running terminator and have it setup to be displayed when pressed F12 but I am getting this error when I press F12 for the first time terminator crashed with AttributeError in get_system_focus()
[17:45] <dballester> goddard> I am running terminator <- which one ? T-1000? T-X ?
[17:47] <ajp>  hi all, working on a gs script that I seem to having trouble with. I'm using GhostScript's pdfwrite to reduce the size of PDF files but I'm losing ~20% of the image. pastebin: http://pastebin.com/aWQ2WB9v I'm not sure if there is an option for GS that i'm missing or using wrong
[17:48] <MonkeyDust> goddard  try screen instead of terminator
[17:48] <DarkSim> How do I verify the name of the harddrive with the MBR?
[17:49] <rlsj99> Is this the right spot for networking questions?
[17:50] <MonkeyDust> DarkSim  sudo fdisk -l   <- where the * is set
[17:51] <DarkSim> MonkeyDust, thanks!
[17:51] <ajp> Darksim: you can also type blkid for all the UUIDs
[17:52] <llutz> MonkeyDust: that * shows "partition is marked as bootable"
[17:52] <llutz> q
[17:52] <llutz> it says nothing about the MBR
[17:53] <rlsj99> Question about setting static IP, anyone?
[17:53] <Sta1ker> rlsj99: what is it?
[17:54] <rlsj99> Followed all directions, can't set static IP.  Can you help?
[17:54] <Sta1ker> rlsj99: 12.1 or 12.04
[17:54] <rlsj99> 12.04.1
[17:55] <Sta1ker> rlsj99: did you select manual in network manager and filled correct ip/subnet/gateway
[17:56] <rlsj99> Yes.  Problem there is at the end: "Save" is grayed out, tells me need to authenticate, but how?
[17:56] <fas> rlsj99: run as sudo
[17:56] <llutz> DarkSim: the MBR is the first sector of the first disk in system (/dev/sda most likely)
[17:57] <Sta1ker> rlsj99: is there a key button somewhere?
[17:57] <rlsj99> You mean "gksudo" under a terminal?  Tried that with nm-whatever, no dice.  How do I invoke the terminal manager using sudo?
[17:57] <rlsj99> No key button that I could see for authentication.
[17:58] <rlsj99> network manager (sorry)
[17:59] <Sta1ker> rlsj99: i don't know look at apt-file search network-manager
[17:59] <almoxarife> rlsj99: the command to start networkmanager is 'NetworkManager'
[17:59] <rlsj99> Do that with a terminal?
[17:59] <Sta1ker> rlsj99: yes.
[17:59] <rlsj99> Will you be staying on-line?
[17:59] <Sta1ker> rlsj99: maybe you need to install it, sudo apt-get install apt-file
[18:00] <Sta1ker> rlsj99: i think it's network-manager or gnome-network-manager
[18:01] <Sta1ker> rlsj99: so sudo gnome-network-manager
[18:01] <Sta1ker> gnuradio anyone?
[18:01] <almoxarife> !info NetworkManager
[18:01] <almoxarife> !file NetworkManager
[18:02] <Sta1ker> gnuradio anyone?
[18:02] <llutz> !anyone | Sta1ker
[18:02] <almoxarife> !nm-applet
[18:02] <Erin> is it true that so called 'surveilance' code is present in ubuntu related to amazon.com ?
[18:03] <Sta1ker> gnuradio compiles BUT seems to get stuck on test 54, does anybody has a clue why?
[18:03] <Sta1ker> Erin: sry, what do you mean?
[18:03] <rlsj99> Are you still there?
[18:04] <Sta1ker> rlsj99: i'm hear
[18:04] <Sta1ker> rlsj99: ^ here
[18:04] <Erin> http://linux.slashdot.org/story/12/12/07/1527225/rms-speaks-out-against-ubuntu
[18:04] <rlsj99> Sorry, new user with Pidgin, hit wrong button.  When I type "sudo NetworkManager" it says already running.
[18:06] <Sta1ker> rlsj99: because it's always running, it detects any network changes
[18:06] <rlsj99> The problem is the "Save" is grayed out.  Would you mind repeating your "apt" suggestion?
[18:07] <Sta1ker> Erin: sry to hear that about canonical
[18:07] <Erin> Sta1ker, so am I
[18:07] <Erin> Sta1ker, guess i'll need to switch to debian :-(
[18:08] <Dougie187> Erin: you know that's from 2007 right?
[18:08] <Sta1ker> Erin: or openbsd
[18:08] <lkthomas> hey guys
[18:08] <Erin> Dougie187, no its from 2012
[18:08] <Dougie187> Erin: that link you posted says "Posted by Soulskill on Friday December 07, @11:39AM "
[18:09] <Sta1ker> rlsj99: Erin linux from scratch is also cool
[18:09] <Dougie187> Erin: ever the url has 2077 in it.
[18:09] <Dougie187> err 2007
[18:09] <Sta1ker> Erin: linux from scratch is also cool
[18:09] <lkthomas> I am running ubuntu 12.10 with GMA500 hardware, first half of boot screen works fine after installation, after Raw EDID, screen become blank, anyone have idea why ?
[18:09] <fishcooker> hello ubuntuers
[18:09] <Erin> Dougie187, rofl man.... December 7th 2012
[18:09] <Erin> aka TODAY
[18:09] <Dougie187> Erin: Oh. Got it. I think it was December 12 2007.
[18:09] <kelabot> hey guys, any idea how to secure a webserver from ping dos or ddos? and how can i track or monitor if i've been attaced?
[18:10] <Sta1ker> rlsj99: there should be a lock somewhere there, i don't run it on my system because that is the first first thing i remove after pulseaudio
[18:10] <Erin> Dougie187, are you stoned ?
[18:10] <fishcooker> i've problem with BT connection .. this is mine
[18:10] <fishcooker> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1417307/
[18:10] <almoxarife> the 'tool' offers an opt-out, so, its not exactly something big brother put in to get you!
[18:10] <Dougie187> Erin: No. I typically read dates as MM/DD/YY. So, 12/12/07 looks like Dec 12 2007 to me. But thanks for asking.
[18:10] <janisozaur> how do i prevent aptd from running at startup?
[18:11] <Erin> almoxarife, is this 'tool' only present in unity?
[18:11] <almoxarife> Erin: no idea
[18:11] <rlsj99> Sta1ker: But where's the lock?  The reason I want to set a static IP is because Samba apparently needs it.  The reason I want Samba is that the default networking software is strangely slow and intermittent for accessing Windows Networked machines.
[18:11] <Sta1ker> rlsj99: janisozaur i think it's in /etc/init , read about upstart jobs
[18:11] <Erin> almoxarife, it talks about it being present in 'dash' which is unity tigt ?
[18:11] <DarkSim> Why must Burg be such a gosh darn pain to install :/
[18:12] <Sta1ker> rlsj99: i've also removed network manager because i don't like programs taking to much control of things
[18:13] <Sta1ker> rlsj99: i'll check for you
[18:14] <janisozaur> Sta1ker, "sudo grep -rnE \\\<aptd\\\> /etc/ 2> /dev/null" finds nothing
[18:14] <rlsj99> 20 years ago I understood Linux (then Unix) at that level also, or so I thought.  Of course it was simpler then.  Now I have to putter with the graphical interfaces.  When they don't work, it's question time.  The whole problem, I think, is that none of the documentation uses consistent terminology.  Just that one item you supplies, the command line name of the network manager, is impossible to find easily.
[18:15] <Sta1ker> janisozaur: i think it's started by d-bus
[18:16] <Sta1ker> rlsj99: thats exactly why i remove half of the things, we should start working on an vintage-linux distro
[18:17] <almoxarife> rlsj99: the process name for networkmanager is 'NetworkManager' , the applet is 'nm', and if you dont want it , do a 'sudo apt-get purge networkmanager'
[18:17] <Sta1ker> rlsj99: exactly as almoxarife says
[18:18] <rlsj99> Thanks, but the trouble is I can't seem to make the alternative work as well as NM.  What we need, I think, is a replacement for the Unix legacy setups, especially X-terminal, and start with a new GUI having a streamlined underpinning.
[18:19] <mindbreaker> does anyone know where i can ask for openvpn issues?
[18:19] <Sta1ker> rlsj99: they're working on weyland now it's a complete new desktop or something similar
[18:20] <almoxarife> rlsj99: a sane alternative is 'wicd' , but if you are hardwired you dont need any of it
[18:20] <Sta1ker> rlsj99: what is wrong with the manual side of things without nm?
[18:20] <chisholm> Has anyone run into this problem: "LZMA data corruption trigger to kernel panic", when trying to boot from the live cd either cdrom or usb?
[18:20] <rlsj99> But if it's still based on X-terminal it won't really be better -- as soon as you need something a little less popular.  Can you recommend anyone who has Ubuntu working well with a home LAN?
[18:21] <almoxarife> rlsj99: i have home lan, works fine
[18:21] <janisozaur> !openvpn | mindbreaker
[18:21] <Sta1ker> rlsj99: i get everything working with pull and wifi radar
[18:22] <rlsj99> almoxareife: Do any of the other machines on your network run a Windows OS?
[18:24] <Sta1ker> gnuradio halts on test number 54 does anybody knows why?
[18:24] <almoxarife> rlsj99: they do by proxy, a server runs win7 via vbox, works fine too, your issues is with the router, assign the mac's to internal ip, lazy mans static
[18:24] <DarkSim> There we go, finally fixed my burg, hopefully it works now when I reboot
[18:25] <almoxarife> rlsj99: type 'almo' hit tab, life should be simpler
[18:25] <rlsj99> almoxarife: Yeah, I know about MAC-address security in the router, use it myself for the WiFi stull like smartphones and tablets.  But here I'm talking about a new Ubuntu installation on an i386 machine, connected by Ethernet cable.
[18:26] <almoxarife> rlsj99: does this machine get ip from router via dhcp? bet it does
[18:27] <rlsj99> It does now.  I've been trying for several hours to install static IP.  None of the directions work for that either.
[18:27] <Sta1ker> rlsj99: i remember that static ip was not my problem with nm(and my network is completely static) it was dns stuff that made me remove nm
[18:28] <almoxarife> rlsj99: i dont see where the issue is, you know how to set static at the router and at the machine
[18:28] <Sta1ker> rlsj99: you can make #service network-manager stop
[18:28] <rlsj99> Sta1ker: DNS works fine, along with Internet access, with DHCP.  It's the local area network that is intolerable.
[18:28] <Sta1ker> rlsj99: then try to run it again
[18:28] <grandMaster> Hola!
[18:29] <Sta1ker> rlsj99: my network is completely custom and nm couldn't figure out what's going on
[18:29] <puff> I upgraded my thinkpad t520 w/nvidia/optimus from 11.10 to 12.4 using the software updates dialog.  After several hours, the dialog said something like 27 minutes left.  Then it popped up a message about not being able to configure dmsetup.  Before I could fully read it, the screen went blank/black.  No GUI, no virtual terminals.  I let it sit for a couple hours more while I went out, in case it was still finishing those last 27
[18:29] <puff> minutes.   When I got back, still blank, so I held down power button to force shutdown and reboot.  It says there's a crash report, there's a crash report icon on the menu bar, but clicking it doesn't do anything.  Software updates doesn't show any updates needed.  How do I check to see if something went wrong and needs to be fixed?
[18:29] <almoxarife> rlsj99: the router is that thing that manages the local network, i really dont get what you are so confused about
[18:29] <nonkn4mer> has anybody set up a linux font server to serve fonts to a mac/pc blended environment?
[18:30] <rlsj99> almoxarife: (thanks for Tab tip) It's not an access issue at the router.  This is a _wired_ connection, no security involved.
[18:31] <rlsj99> almoxarife: As I told Sta1ker, the only reason I want static is because Samba requires it, Samba in hopes it will work better than NM.
[18:31] <almoxarife> rlsj99: i didnt mention security, STATIC ip is as easy as a DHCP reservation at the ROUTER!
[18:31] <Sta1ker> rlsj99: did you try to login as root to ubuntu
[18:31] <puff> tl;dr - my laptop appears to have crashed while upgrading from 11.10 to 12.4, what do I do now?
[18:31] <v0lksman> is there any reason when using Gnome Classic in 12.04 Desktop I can't right click on any panel and modify it?
[18:31] <almoxarife> rlsj99: you are talking in circles now, good luck
[18:32] <Sta1ker> v0lksman: because it's gnome 3
[18:32] <rlsj99> Sta1ker: Oh, boy, root is another can of worms.  I can't seem to get anything to work according to Ubuntu directions on the web.
[18:32] <puff> almoxarife: static at the router?
[18:32] <puff> rlsj99: Back up a step, what are you trying to do?
[18:32] <almoxarife> puff: mac reservation by router, yes, mine does
[18:33] <v0lksman> Sta1ker: is there a new tool then?
[18:33] <Erin> +++++++++++++
[18:34] <Sta1ker> v0lksman: i don't know maybe gsettings or gconftool
[18:34] <rlsj99> Original problem (otherwise new Ubuntu is great): Trying to access machines on my local network from the new Ubuntu installation (Acer portable, did run Windows Vista with slick networking), is incredibly slow and intermittent.  Four or five cycles of trying to display contents of a remote folder under "Browse Network" you might get the show and you might only get another timeout.  Intolerable!
[18:34] <media-centre> hey guys hows your day going
[18:35] <media-centre> oh you gotta love moby ,he does bring heart to the world of dance music
[18:35] <puff> almoxarife: Ah, yeah, assigning IPs by MAC at the router works, but I wouldn't call that static IP.
[18:35] <media-centre> especially 3 steps
[18:36] <puff> rlsj99: Yeah, that does sound suck.  And this is on a wired connection?
[18:36] <media-centre> anyway is their any way of automatically mounting a hdd without ... you know
[18:36] <puff> rlsj99: I had huge problems at one point, then I realized somebody had helpfully placed a sheet of corrugated metal in between my laptop and the AP...
[18:36] <WhereIsMySpoon> How come when i start my ubuntu up, my window manager istn started and i have to start it manually with alt-f2 each time?
[18:37] <rlsj99> puff: Right, wired.  The hardware worked day before yesterday under Vista.  I thought I should switch to Samba, but immediately became mired in the inability to set a static IP for this macine.
[18:37] <Erin> puff, it has advantages though. I've been running it at my house for some time now. Its effective when certain hardware needs to keep a certain address but other stuff comes and goes. Like my computers all keep the same ip's but when my friends bring stuff over they can automatically get an IP without me having to deal with finding them one.
[18:37] <hidn_shadows> Hey all, I'm running 10.04 on an old laptop. This hard drive was transferred from another, older laptop, and ubuntu wasn't reinstalled fro the new laptop- so I just loaded this laptop with the older laptop's hard drive, plug and play. It's been acting like it's shutting down, something about "hangcheck failed" in small text in the top left corner pops up, and then it says "ubuntu is running in low graphics mode". After rebooting, everything works fine,
[18:37] <hidn_shadows>  but it'll happen again the next day. Any insight?
[18:38] <media-centre> ok no chance of help then
[18:38] <media-centre> i know it was fstab or somthing
[18:39] <WhereIsMySpoon> media-centre: how about you google search "how to automatically mount drive in linux"
[18:39] <WhereIsMySpoon> there's 12390812301 guides
[18:40] <media-centre> whats wrong with asking here
[18:40] <media-centre> it is a help channel isnt it
[18:40] <WhereIsMySpoon> media-centre: yes, but you're gonna get it done faster by googling
[18:40] <WhereIsMySpoon> and its trivial
[18:40] <Erin> hes right
[18:40] <WhereIsMySpoon> if you try a guide and it doesnt work, then ask here
[18:40] <WhereIsMySpoon> but google first
[18:40] <Erin> + linux helps those who help themselves
[18:40] <WhereIsMySpoon> ^^^^^^^
[18:40] <Erin> the whole learn to fish principal
[18:41] <Sta1ker> Erin: thumbs up
[18:41] <Erin> seriously automount w/ fstab is like one line in one file
[18:41] <media-centre> why dont i just ask here skip the time wasting dissapointment
[18:41] <Erin> easy peezy lemon squeezy ;-p
[18:41] <Sharyari> Hi. Does anyone know what to do if I get "unable to open display :0.0" ?
[18:41] <media-centre> that may be
[18:41] <phunyguy_work> are there any devs around that can help me understand the exact steps that are taken when you select "Apply proxy settings system-wide" under network settings? I am trying to create a script to do this dynamically and I would like to know owhat system settings it modifies.  Thanks.
[18:41] <Erin> media-centre, if you can't figure out how to mount in fstab you are not going to get far in linux sorry but i'm not gonna sugar coat it for you
[18:42] <media-centre> so its still fstab then
[18:42] <Erin> yes... always has been afaik
[18:42] <media-centre> anything different layout wise
[18:42] <bulletrulz> lol uay im unbanned
[18:42] <media-centre> or is it still the same
[18:42] <Erin> media-centre, ......
[18:42] <Sta1ker> phunyguy_work: what are you trying to do?
[18:42] <Sta1ker> phunyguy_work: did you heared about tor?
[18:43] <phunyguy_work> Stalker, run a script (in KDE, not Unity) to change the proxy settings when my VPN is connected, and get rid of them when not.
[18:43] <Sta1ker> phunyguy_work: ^hear
[18:43] <phunyguy_work> and I would like it ti mimick what Unity does when you hit that button.
[18:43] <phunyguy_work> to*
[18:44] <Sta1ker> i think it's a env variable
[18:44] <Daxter> !fstab | media-centre
[18:44] <phunyguy_work> Stalker, I thought the same thing, but there are also changed settings in /etc/apt/apt.conf - etc
[18:44] <Daxter> thats how you auto mount drives
[18:44] <bulletrulz> IdleOne, im unbanned ?
[18:44] <Sta1ker> phunyguy_work: check what happens in printenv in each occasion
[18:44] <phunyguy_work> so I was looking for a list.
[18:44] <phunyguy_work> Stalker, some apps have different places to look for settings.
[18:45] <WeThePeople> how do i remove grub
[18:45] <Sta1ker> phunyguy_work: yeah
[18:45] <Erin> Daxter, he knows he just doesn't want to spend the 5 mins to figure out how to do it himself he wants someone to spoon feed him the answer which we all refused to do.
[18:45] <gustav__> When will the new stable nVidia driver come to Ubuntu 12.10? :(
[18:45] <media-centre> so you dont know if its the same layout on 12 as opposed to 11 or 10
[18:45] <media-centre> ok ill ask if i need help
[18:45] <Daxter> Erin: i did the ubottu tibit so that the wiki can spoon feed him the answer. problem solved.
[18:46] <Sta1ker> phunyguy_work: then it probably depends on the program you are using
[18:46] <Erin> Daxter, touche
[18:46] <Daxter> Erin: ?
[18:46] <Erin> Daxter, as in 'good point'
[18:46] <phunyguy_work> Stalker, I understand that, but I haven't found one thign that doesnt work yet after clicking that button in Unity, so I was looking to see what the button did.
[18:46] <Daxter> oh
[18:46] <Dulcin> I'm on ubuntu 12.10, I have removed ATI propriety drivers and installed the open source ones, but still unity is not loading - can anyone help me with this?
[18:46] <phunyguy_work> KDE doesnt have a button like that.
[18:46] <Erin> we just told him to google which also has the info 10M times over
[18:47] <Sta1ker> phunyguy_work: maybe in gsettings?
[18:47] <Erin> hell he could look at his own /etc/fstab and simply copy + paste the line for / and edit it to his needs lol.
[18:47] <Erin> thats how I learned the first time
[18:47] <phunyguy_work> Stalker, I doubt it.  It modifies configs also.
[18:47] <IdleOne> bulletrulz: come to #ubuntu-ops for a moment please
[18:47] <phunyguy_work> I dont wanna know what is stored in gsettings, I want to know what it is /actually/ doing.
[18:47] <Sta1ker> phunyguy_work: try #gsettings list-recursively | grep -i proxy
[18:48] <phunyguy_work> Stalker, that information is not useful.
[18:48] <phunyguy_work> I want to know what the DAEMON that monitors those settings does WITH the settings.
[18:49] <phunyguy_work> so I can put it in a script to run as a service.
[18:49] <phunyguy_work> "if this address isnt pingable, set up VPN and change proxy to this"
[18:49] <phunyguy_work> get what I mean?
[18:49] <Sta1ker> phunyguy_work: i was also looking for those variables a couple of weeks ago, when i run privoxy, vuze automaticaly tries connecting through it and i couldn't find why
[18:50] <Sta1ker> phunyguy_work: i get you
[18:50] <phunyguy_work> and I dont want to just route all traffic through the tunnel because I still need to access things locally in some spots.  I just want my browsing encrypted, etc.
[18:50] <phunyguy_work> as well as apt-get having to work.
[18:50] <Erin> phunyguy_work, are you trying to setup TOR ?
[18:50] <phunyguy_work> Erin, no.
[18:51] <Sta1ker> phunyguy_work: you can do what i did
[18:51] <phunyguy_work> Just want some privacy when on the road and connected through mcdonalds or whatever.
[18:51] <phunyguy_work> with zero interaction when I connect.
[18:51] <phunyguy_work> I already have the VPN automatically come up when away from home, and be down when at home.
[18:51] <kelvinella> hi did anyone here successfully have office2007 installed on wine in xubuntu 12.04?
[18:51] <phunyguy_work> when at home I dont want it to proxy.
[18:51] <Sta1ker> phunyguy_work: setup privoxy to always connect to your proxy and set a quick proxy button in your browser
[18:51] <phunyguy_work> when away I want it to proxy.  thats all.
[18:52] <Sta1ker> phunyguy_work: that is what i'm doing
[18:52] <kelvinella> and what is playon? is it better than wine?
[18:52] <phunyguy_work> Stalker you misunderstood "zero interaction"
[18:52] <Sta1ker> phunyguy_work: lol
[18:52] <phunyguy_work> aand its more than just browsing.
[18:52] <phunyguy_work> i want to mimick the apply system-wide button behavior.
[18:52] <WhereIsMySpoon> Hi, when I log into my ubuntu session, the window manager isnt loaded on startup, I get this in my ~/.xsession-errors: www.pastie.org/5495187
[18:52] <phunyguy_work> thats all.
[18:53] <kelvinella> playonlinux or wine? which one is better ?
[18:53] <phunyguy_work> !poll kelvinella
[18:53] <phunyguy_work> doh
[18:53] <phunyguy_work> !poll | kelvinella
[18:54] <Sta1ker> phunyguy_work: what about doing something with nmap to detect your enviroment and then make a script that changes the variables
[18:54] <phunyguy_work> Stalker because a simple variable change wont change the apt.conf file, or anythign else that needs to be changed.
[18:54] <phunyguy_work> wgetrc, etc
[18:54] <phunyguy_work> they have their own configs.
[18:54] <hidn_shadows> Okay, so nobody has any idea what the hangcheck error is about?
[18:55] <phunyguy_work> which is why I asked if there was a complete list of what is changed when you hit that button
[18:56] <phunyguy_work> because it is more than just variables.
[18:56] <WhereIsMySpoon> woah, you can ban by mac address?
[18:56] <jrib> phunyguy_work: what variables do you know about?  What changes do you know about that are not variables?
[18:56] <jrib> WhereIsMySpoon: ipv6
[18:56] <WhereIsMySpoon> jrib: ah, was a little confused lol
[18:56] <phunyguy_work> jrib, apt.conf, wgetrc.conf - etc
[18:56] <phunyguy_work> i am unaware of anything else which is why I ask.
[18:56] <WhereIsMySpoon> Hi, when I log into my ubuntu session, the window manager isnt loaded on startup, I get this in my ~/.xsession-errors: www.pastie.org/5495187
[18:57] <jrib> phunyguy_work: what gui tool are you using that modifies apt.conf?
[18:57] <phunyguy_work> and how does that button make the changes dynamic.  usually with the variable and config change you have to reload some stuff.
[18:57] <phunyguy_work> jrib, System Settings?
[18:57] <Sta1ker> phunyguy_work: it must be an envirometal variable or gsettings variable. that's how it works.
[18:57] <jrib> phunyguy_work: you could always read the source code
[18:58] <phunyguy_work> jrib, I could, if I knew where to get to that spot.
[18:58] <hidn_shadows> WhereIsMySpoon It's amazing what we can do with technology now, isn't it? ;-D
[18:58] <phunyguy_work> Stalker again, variables wont help.
[18:58] <Sta1ker> phunyguy_work: wget looks for protocol_proxy variable and so on
[18:58] <WhereIsMySpoon> hidn_shadows: except it wasnt a mac ban and i was wrong
[18:58] <bulletrulz> :D
[18:58] <WhereIsMySpoon> but never mind
[18:59] <hidn_shadows> Whereismyspoon Eh, oh well. No harm
[18:59] <jrib> phunyguy_work: I guess I'd start at gnome-control-center
[18:59] <WhereIsMySpoon> xD
[18:59] <phunyguy_work> Stalker - fair enough.  I just want to find out if there is anything else, and how to reload settings after the variable change to make it all start working for the entire system.
[19:00] <phunyguy_work> I already have the logic needed to figure out whether or not the proxy needs to be established, I just need to know how to actually establish it.
[19:00] <lkthomas> anyone have experience with gma500 ?
[19:00] <phunyguy_work> lkthomas, just ask your question.
[19:01] <jrib> phunyguy_work: apt-get source gnome-control-center, search for network-cc-panel, set_proxy, enjoy
[19:01] <lkthomas> [    2.128802] gma500 0000:00:02.0: LVDS-1: EDID block 0 invalid.
[19:01] <lkthomas> [    2.666429] gma500 0000:00:02.0: Backlight lvds set brightness 7a120000
[19:01] <lkthomas> my screen have no signal afterwards
[19:01] <lkthomas> it's atom mini pc
[19:02] <|Anthony|> When setting default acl values for a directory, files created within that directory are not getting the x bit as specified
[19:02] <|Anthony|> anyone care to shed light on that for me?
[19:03] <jrib> |Anthony|: do you have a mask set...
[19:03] <|Anthony|> indeed
[19:03] <|Anthony|> would it help to see my setfacl statement?
[19:03] <jrib> |Anthony|: getfacl might be more helpful
[19:04] <|Anthony|> one moment, i'll have the info compiled for web viewing
[19:05] <|Anthony|> jrib, http://askubuntu.com/questions/226588/setting-default-acl-for-a-directory-doesnt-properly-effect-new-files-in-that-di
[19:07] <WhereIsMySpoon> When I log into my ubuntu session, the window manager isnt loaded on startup, I get this in my ~/.xsession-errors: www.pastie.org/5495187
[19:08] <|Anthony|> any thoughts on that there jrib?
[19:09] <diego> hello
[19:09] <diego> any inglish speaking people ?
[19:09] <Mukhthar_Ahmed> Hello all,
[19:09] <diego> hello
[19:09] <diego> i love hybride evolution
[19:10] <Mukhthar_Ahmed> ubuntu 12.10 audio output keeps changing from analog output built in audio to headphone built in audio
[19:11] <|Anthony|> Mukhthar_Ahmed, blame #pulseaudio
[19:11] <ikonia> hang on
[19:11] <ikonia> you can't say that
[19:11] <|Anthony|> lol
[19:11] <ikonia> I don't find that funny
[19:11] <Mukhthar_Ahmed> |Anthony| : what is the work around
[19:11] <ikonia> you've not even got the problem
[19:11] <ikonia> or solution
[19:12] <ikonia> let alone the work around
[19:12] <|Anthony|> honestly i meant no serious offense. More sarcasm and personal grumbles with past experiences
[19:12] <kostkon> |Anthony|, not really. that's a driver issue, an alsa one
[19:12] <|Anthony|> i apologize
[19:12] <kostkon> :P
[19:13] <WhereIsMySpoon> remove pulseaudio and use alsa
[19:13] <WhereIsMySpoon> pulse is a pile of crap
[19:13] <|Anthony|> ^ i see im not alone with prior experience
[19:13] <ikonia> WhereIsMySpoon: please be quiet unless you actually have something useful to add
[19:13] <WhereIsMySpoon> in my experience anyhow
[19:13] <ikonia> this isn't your experience
[19:13] <ikonia> this is help the guy with HIS problem
[19:13] <WhereIsMySpoon> yes it is
[19:13] <WhereIsMySpoon> oh sorry
[19:13] <WhereIsMySpoon> i thought you meant something else ^^
[19:13] <ikonia> rather than just randomly blame pulse as you've had a bad experience
[19:14] <WhereIsMySpoon> When I log into my ubuntu session, the window manager isnt loaded on startup, I get this in my ~/.xsession-errors: www.pastie.org/5495187
[19:14] <WhereIsMySpoon> ikonia: sorry :)
[19:16] <|Anthony|> Mukhthar_Ahmed, it *could* potentially be a hardware issue. it should only switch on jack detection. So it's possible that the hardware is having a "fluctuation"
[19:16] <Mukhthar_Ahmed> how to switch over from pulse audio to alsa
[19:16] <|Anthony|> Mukhthar_Ahmed, have you tested with a different os on the same machine?
[19:16] <kostkon> Mukhthar_Ahmed, you are already using alsa
[19:16] <WhereIsMySpoon> kostkon: but if he has pulse, it will be going through that too
[19:16] <|Anthony|> pulseaudio is a sort of layer on top of alsa
[19:16] <Mukhthar_Ahmed> |Anthony| yup windows works fine, live cd works fine
[19:16] <kostkon> WhereIsMySpoon, yes
[19:17] <|Anthony|> so this is an issue of spontaneous jack detection
[19:17] <wN> it don't know jack
[19:17] <WhereIsMySpoon> lol
[19:17] <WhereIsMySpoon> i dont see how this can be a hardware issue
[19:17] <Mukhthar_Ahmed> |Anthony|  i am sure its not the jack issue
[19:18] <WhereIsMySpoon> especially now he said it works fine on windows and a live cd
[19:18] <|Anthony|> is it randomly doing this while you are running? or only between boots
[19:18] <Mukhthar_Ahmed> |Anthony| i just downloaded a video file and works fine so the issue is not with all the files
[19:18] <WhereIsMySpoon> that doesnt mean it has anything to do with files
[19:18] <aramudi> No handlers could be found for logger "e3.common.Config"
[19:18] <WhereIsMySpoon> it could just be temperamental
[19:18] <|Anthony|> jack detection does not mean hardware issues. jack detection is when you plug something in, a signal is sent saying "hey, theres something in here"
[19:19] <Mukhthar_Ahmed> |Anthony| audio is not working on virtual machine too
[19:19] <|Anthony|> Mukhthar_Ahmed, separate issue
[19:19] <Mukhthar_Ahmed> okay
[19:19] <WhereIsMySpoon> aramudi: is there a question there? if so, please elaborate
[19:19] <godbod> Hello everyone. I have a question concerning the xconsole in ubuntu. Why /dev/xconsole doesn't exits ? And how can I solve this problem ? Ex. of what I want to do :  xconsole -f /dev/xconsole &
[19:19] <|Anthony|> Mukhthar_Ahmed, does the issue present only when you reboot the computer, or during active use
[19:20] <aramudi> emese opening from the command window
[19:20] <Mukhthar_Ahmed> |Anthony| all the time
[19:20] <WhereIsMySpoon> aramudi: https://github.com/emesene/emesene/issues/464 https://github.com/emesene/emesene/issues/283
[19:20] <pranith> !xconsole
[19:20] <WhereIsMySpoon> aramudi: https://github.com/emesene/emesene/issues/934
[19:20] <Mukhthar_Ahmed> installed vlc and had no sound
[19:21] <WhereIsMySpoon> i personally would suggest purging pulseaudio and seeing if its better just not having it, as that's how my experience panned out
[19:21] <|Anthony|> Mukhthar_Ahmed, pulseaudio employs some "magic" and remembers your usage history. It is possible that it is using the headphone jack for some applications because you had chosen to do this i nthe past
[19:21] <|Anthony|> i agree with WhereIsMySpoon on that
[19:21] <Mukhthar_Ahmed> changed the audio output from default to alsa there is sound but again keeps changing from audio out built in to headphones built in
[19:21] <aramudi> when I open the window and I connect emesene desapareze window and sends me error that command in Terminal.
[19:22] <ikonia> have you got ANY reason to suspect this is pulse ?
[19:22] <Mukhthar_Ahmed> |Anthony| how to clear the history
[19:22] <WhereIsMySpoon> aramudi: are you using 2.11.11?
[19:22] <godbod> Hello everyone. I have a question concerning the xconsole in ubuntu. Why /dev/xconsole doesn't exits ? And how can I solve this problem ? Ex. of what I want to do :  xconsole -f /dev/xconsole &
[19:23] <ikonia> godbod: it should be created by udev
[19:23] <ikonia> however I don't know what "xconsole" actually is as a device node
[19:23] <|Anthony|> ikonia, pulse is suspected over alsa ALWAYS. bottom line pulse tries to fix issue that don't exist and in turn creates more
[19:23] <|Anthony|> yes, i said it
[19:23] <ikonia> |Anthony|: no, sorry that's just nonsense
[19:24] <|Anthony|> it's really not though. do your homework on the subject.
[19:24] <ikonia> |Anthony|: it really is
[19:24] <ikonia> even if pulise is a more common problem than alsa, just stating "remove pulse" is unacceptable
[19:24] <aramudi> nose that version, I can see how emesene version I have installed?
[19:25] <ikonia> you have no reason beyond you've had a bad experience to suggest that
[19:25] <WhereIsMySpoon> ikonia: reinstalling ubuntu is a common response by ops and voices here for issues, why not a simple package reinstall?
[19:25] <ikonia> WhereIsMySpoon: no it's not
[19:25] <ikonia> and if it is, it's not just a random "re-install ubuntu"
[19:26] <ikonia> there is normally a technical reason for it
[19:26] <ikonia> you're just saying "try this random package"
[19:26] <MadsRC> I've got an old Fujitsu Siemens laptop where wifi only works if I blacklist "acer-wmi". But sometimes when I boot wireless doesn't work again, and I have to delist "acer-wmi" from modprobe.d/blacklist.conf, reboot, blacklist it agian and reboot... Anyone know why this keeps happening?
[19:26] <WhereIsMySpoon> besides, its not as if you purge it you can never have it again
[19:26] <ikonia> WhereIsMySpoon: no, but it is intergrated, so removing it for no reason does not seem a sane approach
[19:26] <openboxman> Got my nexus 4 phone running irc :) .  with straight talk unlimited for 60 bucks. Speednet clocked at 8 mb download.
[19:26] <|Anthony|> i'm not suggesting to "remove" pulse. I am suggesting, however, that a remove and reinstall will eliminate the possibility that pulse is the culprit. After it is re-installed (having all of the magic settings files removed) the problem still persist, we can move on to driver and alsa testing
[19:26] <HumanBeing> (offtopic) Propably you already know it: http://goo.gl/kyuO7
[19:26] <ikonia> if there is something pointing at this being pulise, I can see your point
[19:27] <ikonia> HumanBeing: don't post it then
[19:27] <WhereIsMySpoon> ikonia: if pulse is removed and the problem still exists, its alsa
[19:27] <jrib> |Anthony|: there's some relevant discussion here: http://www.novell.com/documentation/suse91/suselinux-adminguide/html/apbs03.html#tab:mask
[19:27] <WhereIsMySpoon> you can diagnose which is the problem
[19:27] <ikonia> WhereIsMySpoon: if pulse is remove it doesn't mean alsa is the problem
[19:27] <fas> Hey guys, how can I give other users sudo privs but allow me to still alter their home directories?
[19:27] <vlad_> Hello. I have a question: how allow connect only for sites in list on ubuntu?
[19:27] <|Anthony|> thank you jrib
[19:27] <diverdude> How do i restart the network manager from console?
[19:28] <ikonia> fas: giving someone sudo privileges will not effect their home directory permissions
[19:28] <fas> diverdude: do you want to restart net man or networking in general?
[19:28] <diverdude> fas its because the network gui is broken
[19:28] <fas> ikonia: so, I have do chmod their home or chown?
[19:29] <ikonia> fas: giving someone sudo permissions has nothing to do with their home directory permissions
[19:29] <ikonia> fas: you don't have to touch any file system permissions
[19:29] <jrib> |Anthony|: B.3.4.2. Application of Default ACLs, especially section 3 in there
[19:29] <fas> ikonia: I just tried to cat > to their home but it didn't allow it
[19:29] <ikonia> fas: that has nothing to do with sduo
[19:30] <fas> diverdude: can you just kill the process
[19:30] <|Anthony|> thank you jrib
[19:30] <ikonia> jrib: good url find
[19:30] <|Anthony|> fas might want to take note of the link jrib pointed out
[19:30] <fas> ikonia: I understand, I'm still a noob with linux permissions
[19:30] <|Anthony|> agreed ikonia ^5 to jrib
[19:30] <ikonia> fas: ok, but sudo / file system permissions are totally seperate things
[19:31] <openboxman> Now to install ubuntu rom on android. Anyone play with emulater?
[19:31] <jrib> |Anthony|: man 5 acl, says something similar about modes, but I only understood it after reading the url :P
[19:31] <fas> thanks |Anthony|
[19:32] <jrib> fas: I don't think you need ACLs for what you asked.  If you yourself have sudo, you can do whatever you want
[19:32] <vlad_> How block access to all sites, and allow to sites in list?
[19:33] <|Anthony|> fas, maybe you could condense that link into a concise answer for the askubuntu post so the community can benefit from it ;)
[19:34] <|Anthony|> er sorry jrib
[19:35] <WhereIsMySpoon> When I log into my ubuntu session, the window manager isnt loaded on startup, I get this in my ~/.xsession-errors: www.pastie.org/5495187
[19:35] <myhero> heoyea: i made up ssh connection between android and laptop over wifi......but i changed the port in sshd_conf file from default 22 to 2222 and it connected fine but the problem is now i changed the ports back to 22 from 2222 so it must not connect over port 2222 but it is connecting over it and not 22 ?? why so ?
[19:35] <SolarisB1y> oy vey
[19:36] <|Anthony|> WhereIsMySpoon, did you install Xubuntu, or xfce on Ubuntu?
[19:36] <WhereIsMySpoon> |Anthony|: xubuntu
[19:36] <|Anthony|> mmm
[19:37] <myhero> is there any difference between installing xubuntu and installing xfce on ubuntu ?
[19:37] <WhereIsMySpoon> myhero: xfce is the window manager, xubuntu is a distro
[19:37] <|Anthony|> does it failsafe to busybox
[19:37] <WhereIsMySpoon> myhero: you can use xfce on debian, for example
[19:37] <WhereIsMySpoon> |Anthony|: no, i just get a gui wit no window managwer
[19:37] <|Anthony|> oh that's fun
[19:37] <WhereIsMySpoon> |Anthony|: usual things like windows pinned to top left, no titel bars etc
[19:38] <|Anthony|> right
[19:38] <WhereIsMySpoon> alt-f2 and xfwm4 works
[19:38] <WhereIsMySpoon> but i have to do that every time
[19:38] <WhereIsMySpoon> which is annoying
[19:38] <myhero> WhereIsMySpoon: but xfce contains all the xubuntu apps so its like a full xubuntu session so like a single session xubuntu ?
[19:38] <WhereIsMySpoon> myhero: xubuntu comes with a lot less bloat
[19:38] <myhero> hmm
[19:38] <WhereIsMySpoon> xubuntu is basically a stripped down version of ubuntu
[19:38] <shadow98> how do i remove deb package that won't let me use -r command
[19:39] <|Anthony|> WhereIsMySpoon, and i suppose you've tweaked it around a bit so you'd rather not unistall/reinstall xfce
[19:39] <WhereIsMySpoon> |Anthony|: actually ive done zippo tweaking
[19:39] <|Anthony|> so purge it
[19:39] <WhereIsMySpoon> i liek it as it is
[19:39] <Mukhthar_Ahmed> does editing with gconf-editor require system restart
[19:40] <myhero> WhereIsMySpoon: ok.....and how do i remove dependencies when removing any app....coz apt-get remove or purge only removes app and not its dependencies ?
[19:40] <shadow98> dpkg -r Splashtop_Streamer_Ubuntu_v2.0.0.11_i386.deb <<<<<<<<<<<<<<--------dpkg: error: you must specify packages by their own names, not by quoting the names of the files they come in
[19:40] <|Anthony|> bbl
[19:40] <WhereIsMySpoon> myhero: sudo apt-get autoremove
[19:42] <WhereIsMySpoon> myhero: and sudo apt-get install -f for resolving missing deps :)
[19:42] <myhero> WhereIsMySpoon: currently when doing apt-get -h it says segmentation error ?
[19:42] <WhereIsMySpoon> O.o
[19:42] <WhereIsMySpoon> that isnt good :p
[19:43] <crackerjackz> where does wubi install its self? how do i get to the files if my ubuntu install no longer boots?
[19:43] <myhero> y ? what happened ?
[19:43] <WhereIsMySpoon> myhero: that means theres a null reference somewhere
[19:43] <myhero> WhereIsMySpoon: how to fix it ?
[19:43] <WhereIsMySpoon> which means that either you're giving me erroneous info or your apt is broken
[19:43] <myhero> WhereIsMySpoon: i was installing and playing with openssh
[19:43] <Mukhthar_Ahmed> does editing with gconf-editor require system restart
[19:43] <WhereIsMySpoon> myhero: ok?
[19:44] <WhereIsMySpoon> myhero: give full console output
[19:44] <myhero> WhereIsMySpoon: but now how to fix that segmentation thing ?
[19:45] <WhereIsMySpoon> myhero: give me full console output of the command which gives seg error
[19:45] <myhero> WhereIsMySpoon: well i exited that terminal session and started a new one but still the same segmentation error.....how to recover old terminal msgs ?
[19:45] <WhereIsMySpoon> myhero: if you just got the error again, pastebin that
[19:46] <myhero> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ apt-get -h Segmentation fault ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ apt-get --help Segmentation fault ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get --help ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get -h
[19:46] <t432> i'd like to upgrade the maven 2 package to maven 3, apt-get upgrade will not do it
[19:46] <WhereIsMySpoon> t432: if maven 3 is a different package, then no ofc not
[19:46] <t432> how would i do it?
[19:47] <t432> install in  seperately?
[19:47] <t432> it*
[19:47] <b14d3> t432: You'd have to uninstall and install seperately, yes
[19:47] <diverdude> fas, and how do i restart it again?
[19:47] <myhero> WhereIsMySpoon: thats it.....just apt-get -h and then output segmentation fault
[19:47] <WhereIsMySpoon> myhero: might be a corrupted apt cache
[19:47] <myhero> WhereIsMySpoon: how to fix it ?
[19:47] <WhereIsMySpoon> sudo rm /var/cache/apt/*.bin
[19:48] <WhereIsMySpoon> make a backup
[19:48] <WhereIsMySpoon> i dunno how useful apt caches are
[19:48] <WhereIsMySpoon> but always make backup before you delete system files
[19:48] <bekks> Those arent system files at all.
[19:48] <myhero> ok....how to make backup ?
[19:48] <hashiish> I loved Ubuntu while I tried it. Never had a problem and so easy to use
[19:48] <myhero> cp ?
[19:48] <WhereIsMySpoon> myhero: ye
[19:48] <myhero> k
[19:48] <WhereIsMySpoon> bekks: apt is a system tool
[19:49] <WhereIsMySpoon> bekks: i just meant files that are used by system tools
[19:49] <bekks> WhereIsMySpoon: Then never delete any files, since they are allon your system ;)
[19:49] <WhereIsMySpoon> bekks: always make backups before you delete? sure
[19:49] <bekks>  /var/cache/apt is a cache - and safe to remove.
[19:49] <WhereIsMySpoon> sounds good to me
[19:49] <WhereIsMySpoon> bekks: thats what i thought
[19:49] <WhereIsMySpoon> i was just being catious
[19:49] <WhereIsMySpoon> cautious*
[19:49] <bekks> Or even use apt-get clean
[19:50] <WhereIsMySpoon> i dont like apt just giving "seg fault" if the cache is corrupted tho xD
[19:50] <WhereIsMySpoon> it should give some sort of useful error message :p
[19:50] <Hanumaan> what is the problem in this apt-get source ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1417512/
[19:50] <myhero> WhereIsMySpoon: it gives some input output error....
[19:51] <WhereIsMySpoon> myhero: pastebin the output
[19:51] <bekks> Hanumaan: The fact that the selected mirror denies access.
[19:51] <WhereIsMySpoon> Hanumaan: you're forbidden from accessing those resources
[19:51] <WhereIsMySpoon> Hanumaan: try a different mirror
[19:51] <WhereIsMySpoon> if possible, i dunno
[19:51] <WhereIsMySpoon> not used debian
[19:52] <openboxman> Got to run been fun :)
[19:52] <Hanumaan> WhereIsSpoon, it is of Ubuntu ... I was trying that command till 3 hours before but now does not work any more .. is there a way that I can specify a mirror to apt-get source ?
[19:53] <bekks> Hanumaan: Just select another mirror on synaptic, e.g.
[19:53] <WhereIsMySpoon> Hanumaan: it tells you in that output what mirror to use
[19:53] <WhereIsMySpoon> just change it in sources.list
[19:54] <WhereIsMySpoon> why are there 3 floodbots btw?
[19:54] <WhereIsMySpoon> just out of curiousity
[19:54] <Heiloah> Hi guys, could anyone help a supernoob get to the Nattys GUI? Some kind of black sreen failure :/
[19:57] <t432> apprently maven 3 is default for 12.4 but its not installed nor is it repo
[19:58] <WhereIsMySpoon> t432: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/amd64/maven/3.0.4-2
[19:58] <t432> amb64?
[19:58] <t432> amd64*
[19:58] <WhereIsMySpoon> 64 bit package
[19:58] <t432> i need 32
[19:59] <WhereIsMySpoon> t432: there's a link on the right hand side of the page which is a 32 bit
[19:59] <shadow98> dpkg -r Splashtop_Streamer_Ubuntu_v2.0.0.11_i386.deb <<<<<<<<<<<<<<--------dpkg: error: you must specify packages by their own names, not by quoting the names of the files they come in
[19:59] <WhereIsMySpoon> t432: Downloadable files i386 build of maven 3.0.4-2 in ubuntu precise RELEASE produced these files: maven_3.0.4-2_all.deb (1.2 MiB)
[19:59] <t432> WhereIsMySpoon: i see it, how do i installed it?
[20:00] <WhereIsMySpoon> t432: download the deb, then double click it
[20:00] <necrogami> How can i turn off iptables in ubuntu the /etc/init.d/ script doesn't exist
[20:01] <necrogami> Something in ubuntu is blocking port 80
[20:01] <myhero> WhereIsMySpoon: u there ?
[20:02] <WhereIsMySpoon> myhero: yes
[20:02] <myhero_> WhereIsMySpoon: u there ?
[20:03] <WhereIsMySpoon> myhero: i already said yes
[20:03] <ProfessorBacon> my spoon is too big
[20:03] <WhereIsMySpoon> inb4 he's scrolled up
[20:03] <myhero_> WhereIsMySpoon: sorry i was disconnected.....firefox is crashing
[20:03] <WhereIsMySpoon> ah
[20:05] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[20:05] <|Anthony|> well that's fun
[20:06] <myhero_> WhereIsMySpoon: when doing sudo mkdir ~/Desktop/backup && sudo cp /var/cache/apt/*.bin ~/Desktop/backup its giving input output error and when doing sudo rm /var/cache/apt/*.bin then its returning nothing and doing apt-get -h after that still shows segmentation fault
[20:08] <myhero_> WhereIsMySpoon: ??
[20:08] <WhereIsMySpoon> myhero_: dont need sudo for mkdir ~/Desktop/backup
[20:08] <WhereIsMySpoon> just do it noramlyl
[20:08] <WhereIsMySpoon> mkdir ~/apt_backups
[20:09] <WhereIsMySpoon> myhero_: dont create directories in user areas with sudo unless you have a really good reason to
[20:09] <myhero_> WhereIsMySpoon: ok
[20:10] <myhero_> WhereIsMySpoon: i thought apt is a system area and thus write protected thatsy i did it sudo
[20:11] <WhereIsMySpoon> myhero_: you're creating a backup folder in ~/blah - ~ is shorthand for the default user directory
[20:11] <diverdude> fas, and how do i restart it again?
[20:11] <WhereIsMySpoon> myhero_: if you were doing mkdir in /etc or wherever, you'd need sudo
[20:11] <myhero_> yea...my bad....i thought the same reason for a user directory
[20:12] <WhereIsMySpoon> myhero_: :D
[20:12] <myhero_> WhereIsMySpoon: now its giving segmentation fault for even mkdir for user directory
[20:12] <WhereIsMySpoon> O.o
[20:12] <ibenjmoore> Hii!
[20:12] <WhereIsMySpoon> myhero_: so you do "mkdir ~/blah" and it says "seg fault"?
[20:12] <b14d3> myhero_: You're sure you're not combining commands, right?
[20:13] <myhero_> WhereIsMySpoon: yea b14d3
[20:13] <WhereIsMySpoon> myhero_: have you downloaded anything dubious recently?
[20:14] <myhero_> WhereIsMySpoon: i was setting up openssh
[20:14] <WhereIsMySpoon> myhero_: give the output of strace mkdir ~/some_dir
[20:15] <myhero_> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ mkdir ~/apt_backups Segmentation fault ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ mkdir ~/newdir Segmentation fault ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ mkdir /home/ubuntu/Desktop/newdir Segmentation fault
[20:16] <WhereIsMySpoon> myhero_: please follow my instructions, and dont paste in here
[20:16] <WhereIsMySpoon> www.pastebin.com
[20:16] <WhereIsMySpoon> paste there
[20:16] <myhero_> yea...it was short so i posted it
[20:16] <WhereIsMySpoon> and use the command "strace mkdir ~/mydir
[20:16] <WhereIsMySpoon> "
[20:16] <WhereIsMySpoon> without the quotes
[20:17] <WhereIsMySpoon> note the strace
[20:17] <IveBeenBit> I have a quick question. I'm trying to give Ubuntu a fair shake, so a few months ago I installed it onto a bootable USB drive to familiarize myself with it. My computer has 4 hard drives on "fake RAID" (Intel Motherboard). 2 drives are striped and 2 are mirrored. In any event, I could not get Ubuntu 12.04 to read any files on the hard drives. I had an ubuntu whizz try to fix it for about 45 minutes, but he eventually gave up in frus
[20:17] <IveBeenBit> insulting my choice of hard drive configuration - telling me that it's "fake RAID" and "stupid." Have the problems with mobo-based RAID arrays been fixed for Ubuntu 12.10?
[20:17] <myhero_> WhereIsMySpoon: same...seg fault
[20:17] <WhereIsMySpoon> myhero_: it should have given you a longer output
[20:17] <WhereIsMySpoon> with a trace of where stuff went wrong
[20:18] <myhero_> WhereIsMySpoon: is it trace or strace....i wrote strace
[20:18] <WhereIsMySpoon> myhero_: strace
[20:18] <myhero_> WhereIsMySpoon: same thing....segmentation fault
[20:18] <fas> diverdude: sorry, I was afk, service networking restart or something like that to restart just networking
[20:19] <myhero_> WhereIsMySpoon: btw i m on live 12.10 ubuntu usb
[20:19] <fas> not sure if that's what you were looking for or not
[20:19] <je_> je
[20:19] <bekks> IveBeenBit: There is nothing to be fixed, since thats no RAID usable in Ubuntu.
[20:19] <WhereIsMySpoon> myhero_: i need the output of that strace command
[20:20] <IveBeenBit> bekks: This saddens me, but thanks for clearing up that they do not intend to support that configuration.
[20:20] <myhero_> WhereIsMySpoon: is it possible that live usb got disturbed and lost contact with system thatsy its happening ? ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ strace mkdir ~/mydir Segmentation fault
[20:20] <bekks> IveBeenBit: There is nothingto be supported, since that RAID configuration is designed to be supported by Windows only.
[20:20] <bekks> IveBeenBit: By using a windows driver.
[20:21] <Guest46538> How would I use photorec to all my files I lost from a windows BSOD?
[20:21] <Guest46538> *recover
[20:21] <IveBeenBit> bekks: Bummer, but thank you for the info.
[20:21] <phunyguy_work> ok what am I missing.... I am using networkmanager-openvpn and the connection works fine except for one thing.  I am trying to get it to make that connection the default route.
[20:22] <myhero_> WhereIsMySpoon: so u want me to sudo strace command ?
[20:22] <phunyguy_work> I found the checkbox for "use only for resources on this network", but that didnt change anything.  On the server it is set as well to use it as the default route.
[20:22] <myhero_> WhereIsMySpoon: with sudo also 2 words....segmentation fault
[20:22] <WhereIsMySpoon> jesus
[20:22] <WhereIsMySpoon> O.o
[20:23] <myhero_> WhereIsMySpoon: r u penguin ?
[20:23] <WhereIsMySpoon> er
[20:23] <WhereIsMySpoon> O.o
[20:23] <myhero_> i meant ubuntu penguin ?
[20:23] <Guest46538> Eyes a penguin
[20:24] <WhereIsMySpoon> no, im not an ubuntu dev lol
[20:24] <WhereIsMySpoon> i dont have anywhere near the programming skills to do that yet
[20:24] <myhero_> Guest46538: dont stare like that...animal fetish is bad :)
[20:24] <WhereIsMySpoon> lol
[20:25] <myhero_> kk :) still better then me :)
[20:25] <myhero_> anyways back to work.....what to do with seg fault ?
[20:25] <bekks> myhero_: What did you before that happened?=
[20:27] <myhero_> bekks: i was seting up openssh-server....and it was fine until i had a weird thing with it.....i changed the default port from 22 to 2222 for testing and it was fine until i reverted back the port from 2222 to 22 but now the problem came .....the android was still connecting over port 2222 but not port 22 and currently its connecting over both 2222 and 22 ports
[20:27] <b14d3> WhereIsMySpoon: It's slightly offtopic, so would I be able to PM you a question not directly related to Ubuntu support?
[20:27] <myhero_> WhereIsMySpoon: plz read ^^
[20:28] <WhereIsMySpoon> b14d3: sure
[20:28] <bekks> myhero_: That willnot affect a system in any way causing segfaults.
[20:28] <WhereIsMySpoon> myhero_: i dont see how that results in segfaults
[20:28] <WhereIsMySpoon> you've done something seriously messedup
[20:28] <WhereIsMySpoon> messed up*
[20:28] <WhereIsMySpoon> and since its a live cd i would just re-download an iso and re-burn it onto a new cd
[20:28] <myhero_> bekks: WhereIsMySpoon idk but that was it....i m on live usb 12.10 and there is nothing else on session
[20:29] <bekks> myhero_: Then just reboot, since it ius a liveusb only.
[20:30] <myhero_> bekks: WhereIsMySpoon yea i have the last resort for reboot and thats the reason why i try 1st on live coz ubuntu is very unstable anything weird or just any wrong key press and hell
[20:30] <bekks> myhero_: Why dont you just reboot, when being on a liveusb?
[20:30] <WhereIsMySpoon> ubuntu is not "very unstable"
[20:30] <nopf> hi. am i the only one getting a 12.04 iso when following the normal ubuntu.com...download...-clickstream?
[20:31] <WhereIsMySpoon> ubuntu is quite stable, especially if you dont install any ppas
[20:31] <bekks> nopf: What did you expect?
[20:31] <myhero_> bekks: but thats running away and i wanna learn troubleshooting which helps on installed os
[20:31] <nopf> bekks: a 12.10?
[20:31] <bekks> myhero_: It has nothing to do with debugging. Its a liveusb, not a productive system. Wasted time to debug it.
[20:32] <WhereIsMySpoon> ^
[20:32] <myhero_> bekks: commands are same....
[20:32] <whtemple1959> hello,
[20:32] <bekks> myhero_: And still the time is wasted.
[20:32] <WhereIsMySpoon> myhero_: what we're saying is that a live cd is not a proper install and there's no point debugging it really until you actually install ubuntu properly
[20:32] <whtemple1959> so I am basically new to Ubuntu and I need help finding an application
[20:32] <myhero_> bekks: i know....but when something goes wrong on a dependent system then its nightmare
[20:33] <WhereIsMySpoon> whtemple1959: are you using unity?
[20:33] <whtemple1959> no I am still on 10.04
[20:33] <bekks> myhero_: I am not going to waste my time any further on that.
[20:33] <padmick> hi guys my usb is not mounting any here is the dsmeg    :                     http://paste.ubuntu.com/1417561       can anyone help?
[20:33] <WhereIsMySpoon> hm ok, unity has a nice app finder
[20:33] <myhero_> WhereIsMySpoon: i get ur point but u r not getting mine
[20:33] <WhereIsMySpoon> myhero_: what is your point
[20:33] <WhereIsMySpoon> whtemple1959: what application?
[20:33] <mindbreaker> when i restart service networking, gnome disappears and nvidea alerts something
[20:33] <bekks> myhero_: There is no point in wasting^time on a liveusb.
[20:34] <myhero_> bekks: i appreciate ur time invested till now
[20:34] <WhereIsMySpoon> whtemple1959: also, i suggest you use 12.04 or 12.10 as your first ubuntu install rather than an old version
[20:34] <mindbreaker> i guess i have to install a nvidea driver but there are errors when i want to install additionl drivers
[20:34] <whtemple1959> I was not clear I have imagemagick installed but it is not in my apps menu and fid a file caannot find it
[20:35] <myhero_> WhereIsMySpoon: bekks anyways i am rebooting.....but what do u think of mobile connecting over wifi to a laptop port when its changed ?
[20:35] <myhero_> android to laptop over wifi
[20:35] <bekks> myhero_: When what is changed?
[20:35] <nopf> bekks: i clikc "download" "ubuntu deskop" "get ubuntu 12.10" "take me to the download" then get an 12.04 iso offered
[20:35] <padmick> hi guys i cant get my usb to mount can anyone help??
[20:36] <mindbreaker> graphics: nvidea geforce 9800gt
[20:36] <myhero_> bekks: WhereIsMySpoon i changed the default port from 22 to 2222 and it connected fine over 2222 but when i reveerted back to 22 then also it was connecting over 2222 but not 22 and now its connecting over both 22 and 2222
[20:37] <tozen> padmick: blkid?
[20:37] <WhereIsMySpoon> myhero_: so switch the wifi on the phone on and off?
[20:37] <nopf> bekks: i'm just mentioning that for no good reason. i *know* how to get 12.10, have already tried it, and, if it's not much better than the beta TBH am happy to get the 12.04 instead. just wondering...
[20:38] <myhero_> WhereIsMySpoon: bekks switched off/on both mobile and laptop wifi but nothing different
[20:38] <WhereIsMySpoon> myhero_: switch off the phone and reboot
[20:38] <whtemple1959> where is my spoon I installed this version months ago still trying to learn it
[20:38] <locojay1> i i m isstalling ubuntu via a vnc and vnc break and then i have to start allover again. how can i see the log instead of the image when installing
[20:38] <myhero_> WhereIsMySpoon: ohh ok....is mobile mac or something like that is permanently allowed ? until reboot
[20:39] <padmick> tozen: nope here is the dsmeg http://paste.ubuntu.com/1417561
[20:39] <WhereIsMySpoon> i have no clue, but since you're on a live cd and nothing matters, reboot
[20:39] <myhero_> ok
[20:39] <almoxarife> whtemple1959: to complete a nick just type the first few characters and hit tab, much simpler
[20:40] <myhero_> almoxarife: wc
[20:40] <myhero_> almoxarife: i got droid connected to laptop over wifi......
[20:41] <whtemple1959> almoxarife I am sorry but what do you mean?
[20:41] <almoxarife> myhero_: thats nice, still using livecd on the lappy with a perfectly working OS?
[20:41] <myhero_> almoxarife: but something new came up...
[20:41] <padmick> blkid doesn't work...
[20:41] <myhero_> almoxarife: lol yea
[20:42] <almoxarife> myhero_: try the installed OS
[20:42] <almoxarife> myhero_: livecd is a toy to you, when you get serious about linux then we talk, :)
[20:42] <myhero_> almoxarife: yea i installed ssh on os and its working good....it took not more then a minute :)
[20:43] <tozen> padmick: what do u mean blkid doesnt work??!
[20:43] <myhero_> almoxarife: but live gives a lot of scope for experimentation
[20:44] <tozen> padmick: pop in usb and type blkid
[20:44] <elena-IK> is there a way to handle moved files smarter with rsync? by default it deletes and retransmits, I'd like it to just move the file
[20:46] <padmick> ok tried that no luck but other usbs work fine
[20:46] <b14d3> WhereIsMySpoon: Sorry if you answered my question about the PM, I missed it due to work. PM me if you have a quick second for an off topic question
[20:46] <WhereIsMySpoon> b14d3: i do, pm me your question
[20:46] <tozen> padmick: sudo fdisk -l?
[20:47] <homiesGaming> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JYPDaX2-Zc    A Legendary Parody to Far cry 3 of "Vaas" character including a very funny challenge(Hint: Green Pepper)
[20:47] <almoxarife> myhero_: and in the spirit of getting you to have an actual install of ubuntu i suggest a 'wubi' install, that will allow for ubuntu to run without being vaporware and allow access to your precious win data
[20:47] <almoxarife> i guess the spammers found a new home
[20:48] <padmick> what am i looking for?
[20:48] <chiggins> Anyone know why when I try to use uwsgi through an init script, nothing gets returned to console? no messages or anything
[20:48] <RandIter> this channel doesn't redirect to #spyware yet?
[20:48] <cwkomando> hi
[20:48] <cwkomando> chanell
[20:49] <padmick> tozen cant find the usb
[20:49] <tozen> padmick: sorry have no idea
[20:50] <padmick> ok check this http://paste.ubuntu.com/1417561
[20:50] <almoxarife> padmick: what are you trying to do?
[20:50] <padmick> im tryin 2 get my usb to work
[20:51] <padmick> so far no luck
[20:51] <tozen> almoxarife: hims ubi doesnt see usb
[20:51] <Delany> i need adobe with linux ? or should i use something else ?
[20:51] <dragonslay> padmick: is your pen drive very old?
[20:52] <padmick> no its quite new and was working yesterday
[20:52] <myhero_> almoxarife: i am thinking of virtualizing ubuntu or live ubuntu on installed ubuntu.....so that i'll have a working os and at the same time a virtual system which i can reboot/restart any time !! is it a gud idea ?
[20:52] <tozen> gals does anybody can remind me to how to send pastebin through terminal, please
[20:52] <xangua> !pastebinit | tozen
[20:53] <tozen> xangua: thx
[20:53] <dragonslay> padmick: can you see the pen drive in gparted?
[20:54] <padmick> dont have gparted 1 min ill get it
[20:54] <almoxarife> padmick: i see i/o errors on your usb according to the pastebin, i would say that usb stick is trash
[20:55] <JamesNZ> Hi everyone, got a weird problem. Autocomplete in the terminal doesn't work for programs in 12.04, but it did for 12.10 :|
[20:55] <padmick> damm there was important files on that is there anything i can do?
[20:55] <JamesNZ> So if I type apt-g <tab> nothing happens, I have to type out the whole command.
[20:56] <tozen> almoxarife: definitely trash especially because fdisk doesnt doesnt see it
[20:56] <JamesNZ> It does work for file/folders though. Any ideas?
[20:56] <myhero_> almoxarife: WhereIsMySpoon 1 more thing.....i downloaded both the ubuntu images....torrent and direct ones which are shown as 700+MB something size but i m getting 800.1MB image ?
[20:56] <almoxarife> padmick: forenzics is OT
[20:56] <dragonslay> padmick: check in /dev if you have the device file
[20:57] <almoxarife> myhero_: ask your questions without using my nick, thnks
[20:57] <tozen> padmick: device file name could be smth like /dev/sdb
[20:57] <myhero_> almoxarife: lol...u look disturbed ?
[20:58] <myhero_> almoxarife: anyways...i see ur nick is untouchable so i'll not touch it anymore after this :P
[20:58] <almoxarife> myhero_: no, not at all, just not your babu
[20:59] <myhero_> babu...hmm that tells a lot of things....
[21:00] <padmick> ok there is nothing there so i suppose thats it
[21:00] <Guest-tdtrs> "Ubuntu Spyware" im unable to connect  to Jbacon blog  and read his grease trap.
[21:00] <tozen> padmick: thats mean only one u r usb is gone
[21:00] <I_HATE_AUTO_CORR> What is the general Ubuntu loco channel
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> !alis | I_HATE_AUTO_CORR
[21:01] <sanaking> hey folks!
[21:01] <kike_> Hi all
[21:01] <padmick> sorry tozen what u mean?
[21:02] <sanaking> I'm having trouble finding good lit online about how to work with LVM+FDE on Ubuntu, are there any resources out there?
[21:02] <sanaking> Specifically I'm unclear on how to resize partitions (I can't seem to boot of the install CD as well is the other kink)
[21:02] <bekks> sanaking: Whats "FDE"?
[21:02] <tozen> padmick: i mean you're usb is fault/dead/gone 4 ever
[21:02] <sanaking> bekks: FullDiskEncryption
[21:03] <kike_> I need some help with 7z (or better idea) to uncompress a lot of zip files, each one must be uncompressed to a different folder.
[21:04] <kike_> every zip file is in the same folder. by the way
[21:04] <sanaking> I mean, I can boot off the install, but.. i don't know how I managed to install, as graphics are all messed up
[21:04] <padmick> ok thanks guys
[21:04] <tozen> padmick:u r welcome
[21:05] <sanaking> (the same was true with the installed ver on my HDD) aside: I'm unclear why there doesn't seem to be much work on fixing the graphics issues on ubuntu, my net searching reveals _many_ who are unable to use ubuntu due to graphics card issues
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> sanaking: depends on the gpu
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> sanaking: you will get issues if you use optimus and similar
[21:06] <kike_> ATI 4xxx owners like me are a little bit angry about graphichs too
[21:07] <tozen> gals any ideas to how to see my intel gpu in conky?
[21:07] <sanaking> ActionParsnip: ?  Is that a reply to my lament that with each successive ubuntu release less people are able to use it?
[21:07] <ActionParsnip> kike_: there is a PPA with a legacy driver for 2xxx to 4xxx to make the latest Xorg work (in 12.10)
[21:07] <ActionParsnip> sanaking: its entierely dependant on hardware, its super individual
[21:07] <kike_> tried, didn't work and don't really know why
[21:07] <sanaking> I posted that i finally got ubuntu working on my graphics card, and a friend reply "congrats! I've been trying for over a month"
[21:08] <kike_> twice i lost graphic environment :(
[21:08] <ActionParsnip> kike_: is it ok in 12.04?
[21:08] <sanaking> ActionParsnip: your statement has no relation to mine.  Ubuntu 10 and earlier all worked fine on my hardware.  I couldn't get 12 to display anything useful on the screen.  That's an issue that needs to be addressed, and has nothing to do with me
[21:09] <kike_> did'n try
[21:09] <ActionParsnip> sanaking: did you try mutiple desktop environments?
[21:09] <kike_> last LTS worked just fine
[21:09] <sanaking> ActionParsnip: I couldn't even login
[21:09] <kike_> i've seen a manual that i'm trying to understand before I try
[21:09] <sanaking> Oh I tried light and kdm yeah
[21:09] <ActionParsnip> sanaking: you can press CTRL+ALT+F1 and log in there
[21:10] <sanaking> ActionParsnip: nope, the graphics there were screwed up too.
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> sanaking: that won't change the session once you log in, changing the DM doesn't make a huge amount of difference
[21:10] <sanaking> ActionParsnip: exactly
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> sanaking: ok, then did you try kubuntu or xubuntu?
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> sanaking: the DM is not the DE
[21:11] <sanaking> ActionParsnip: exactly, that's why i said i couldn't even login, so i didn't even have a chance to try different DEs
[21:11] <ActionParsnip> sanaking: but you can use the different install medias to install them by default
[21:12] <kike_> any idea about how to uncompress a lot of zip files (all in the same folder)  to a different folder each one?
[21:12] <sanaking> I'm confused at how I was able to install at all, now trying to boot Ubuntu/Kubuntu/GNOMEbuntu all seem to have graphics issues making them unusable. hmm.
[21:12] <sanaking> anyways, so it sounds like nobody knows where i can find resources to learn about using LVM+FDE effectively
[21:12] <almoxarife> sanaking: be so kind as to share via pastebin, /var/log/syslog and Xorg.0.log
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> sanaking: boot to the kubuntu installCD and run through the install method, just like you would with ubuntu
[21:12] <sanaking> Am I the only person using LUKS?
[21:13] <ATAKAN> mrb
[21:13] <almoxarife> luks?
[21:13] <sanaking> almoxarife: after days of work i managed to turn off nouveau and install nvidia-current, and am booted fine now, but would like to resize my partitions
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> sanaking: the newer releases use compiz, if your gpu isn't up to the task it will offload to the cpu.
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> sanaking: basically, all you have tested is Gnome desktop. I suggest you try the others then form an opinion. You don't have to use gnome
[21:14] <DDAZZA> Simple question: when running the time command. What is real/user/sys?
[21:14] <almoxarife> sanaking: be so kind as to share via pastebin, /var/log/syslog and Xorg.0.log <-- nevermind on this, 'gparted' for resize a partition works great for me
[21:14] <sanaking> ActionParsnip: basically I've not even gotten to the GNOME desktop.
[21:14] <sanaking> almoxarife: not with LVM
[21:14] <almoxarife> sanaking: correct
[21:15] <kike_> I installed cynnamon after breaking my graphics and it's cool, now I like it a lot
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> sanaking: then try a different desktop, you can use xubuntu which needs zero 3d accelleration and I bet it runs just fine
[21:15] <auronandace> kike_: cinnamon isn't supported here
[21:15] <kike_> i'm sure
[21:16] <sanaking> would i be able to resize my encrypted partitions from the xubuntu 12.10 dvd?
[21:16] <sanaking> (or cd whatever)
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> sanaking: it has all the same stuff available as the ubuntu cd, so i'd imagine so, yes
[21:16] <sanaking> I don't know if the ubuntu CD can do that
[21:17] <auronandace> sanaking: i thought the whole point of using lvm was so you didn't have to worry about partition sizes
[21:17] <ActionParsnip> sanaking: if the tools ar ein the repos and you have web access, there is nothing stopping you installing the apps (except ram space to hold the app itself)
[21:18] <wN> auronandace: lvm doesn't care about partition sizes. it puts them all devices into a single pool and works from that
[21:18] <sanaking> auronandace: I want to install another OS
[21:18] <auronandace> wN: exactly
[21:18] <sanaking> OS(es)
[21:19] <wN> i missed the original question, but you dont have to resize your partition sizes with lvm unless you want to create new devices for use in a new vg or outside of lvm
[21:19] <almoxarife> sanaking: http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Parted-Magic-update-includes-GParted-LVM-support-1706323.html
[21:20] <sanaking> almoxarife: But I also used crypt/LUKS :(
[21:20] <wN> sanaking: perhaps you should ask in #lvm if you have lvm specific questions.
[21:21] <sanaking> It is strange that KUbuntu doesn't include any partition tools that support LVM, eh
[21:21] <wN> sanaking: what do you mean?
[21:21] <myhero> WhereIsMySpoon: thnx for ur time :)
[21:21] <t432> anyone know the correct java ee package (not the standard version)
[21:22] <sanaking> wN: i can try, but not sure if they'll be able to help me with the LUKS issues..
[21:22] <wN> sanaking: why? there are LUKs questions in there all the time
[21:22] <sanaking> wN: The two partitioning tools that come with my install don't seem to support it..
[21:22] <OpenSorce> Is it safe to just delete the contents of /tmp ?
[21:22] <sanaking> wN: oh yeah? ok great!
[21:22] <ActionParsnip> t432: do you want oracle java for your browser?
[21:22] <wN> sanaking: what're you trying to do? resize your partitions?
[21:22] <t432> no i need the development kit java ee
[21:23] <t432> java enterprise edition
[21:24] <slMagnvox> Need help configuring display; v12.10  with AMD 6350 plugged in via VGA to a LCD TV
[21:24] <WhereIsMySpoon> myhero: np
[21:25] <myhero> WhereIsMySpoon: not for U but i highly appreciate that
[21:28] <t432> is j2ee available in repo?
[21:28] <kyyd> does anyone have any advice on upgrading packages on a production server? Like does it often cause problems? Should you always do is asap, and is there a good process to check that it hasn't broken anything?
[21:29] <kyyd> *it asap
[21:29] <auronandace> t432: if that is an official oracle version then i doubt it
[21:29] <almoxarife> kyyd: if its working dont touch it
[21:29] <t432> how do get it work?
[21:29] <t432> if was to download it from oracle
[21:29] <t432> if i*
[21:30] <auronandace> !java | t432
[21:30] <myhero> i tried installing JDK 7u9 with NetBeans 7.2.1 linux x64 edition available here http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jdk-7-netbeans-download-432126.html on installed ubuntu 12.10 but it there was nothing happening when double clicking it
[21:30] <myhero> on installed 12.10 OS
[21:30] <t432> ubottu: I have those i need http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javaee/downloads/index.html
[21:30] <t432> e.e. j2ee
[21:31] <t432> oh
[21:31] <t432> i meant auronandace
[21:32] <auronandace> t432: i don't use java, thankfully never needed it
[21:32] <sanaking> ok going to try to boot the install DVD again, hope it works.. bbl (maybe)
[21:32] <t432> auronandace: php?
[21:32] <kyyd> almoxarife: ok thanks
[21:33] <kyyd> almoxarife: what about security updates, are those usually ok?
[21:33] <auronandace> t432: nope, i'm not a web dev
[21:33] <t432> ah your c man
[21:34] <almoxarife> kyyd: i personally chose to make security updates, but that is a choice also
[21:38] <myhero> i tried installing JDK 7u9 with NetBeans 7.2.1 linux x64 edition available here http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jdk-7-netbeans-download-432126.html on installed ubuntu 12.10 OS but there was nothing happening when double clicking it....whats wrong with it ?
[21:39] <tozen> Nevopross: как сам, брат?
[21:41] <ajp> i have this script I need to run as a daemon, I need it to run every time the server boots, can someone point me?
[21:42] <jrib> !upstart | ajp
[21:42] <jrib> ajp: check out the cookbook for upstart
[21:43] <ajp> wow so much info... is there a short sweet version?
[21:43] <bekks> ajp: That was the short version. :P
[21:44] <myhero> anyone ?
[21:44] <jrib> ajp: well the "getting started" link there gets you started.  You can also look at existing scripts for inspiration
[21:44] <bekks> myhero: On what?
[21:44] <myhero> bekks: i tried installing JDK 7u9 with NetBeans 7.2.1 linux x64 edition available here http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jdk-7-netbeans-download-432126.html on installed ubuntu 12.10 OS but there was nothing happening when double clicking it....whats wrong with it ?
[21:44] <ajp> I have my script, i just need it to go, lol
[21:44] <ajp> or do i have to write a script for my script?
[21:45] <bekks> myhero: Download netbeans, and install it afterwards. There's nothing to be happening when just clicking it.
[21:45] <jrib> ajp: an init script, yes.  So upstart can manage it.  This is the proper way
[21:45] <ajp> jrib: i see
[21:45] <myhero> bekks: i tried it through terminal also but no use
[21:46] <bekks> myhero: "tried" "no use" - be more specific, please.
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> ajp: if you add it in /etc/rc.local above the 'exit 0' line, it will run as root before the desktop shows
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> ajp: as it is a daemon, you will need to add a space and an amperand after the command to background it
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> ajp: if you don't then the boot will hang
[21:55] <myst3rious> okay. I'm going to have to blow this out of the water and reinstall Ubuntu.
[21:55] <myst3rious> that's the only way this is going to get fixed sadly
[21:56] <alexkhcsz> my menu bar disappeared, where i can set wlan configs... how to get it back
[21:58] <myst3rious> Funny. Apparently a drive protection thing in Ubuntu doesn't let Ubuntu discs boot. That's nice.
[21:58] <doost> hello, i just bought an acer aspiron e... i am unable to install ubuntu on it.
[21:58] <myst3rious> doost: PM me and I can walk you through the process
[21:59] <doost> it keeps restarting
[21:59] <myst3rious> Is it on a flashstick or a DVD?
[22:03] <myst3rious> doost? is it on a USB stick or DVD?
[22:03] <dotty_> Hi, I have a quick question regarding the samba server. I've gt it all setup, added myself as a user and on my mac workstation i can see the server, connect to it and share files.
[22:03] <dotty_> However, there is 2 shared folder, both pointing to the same place. I have "homes" and "kevin", both going to the same place.
[22:04] <doost> i tried both
[22:04] <doost> niether works
[22:04] <bekks> dotty_: And whats your question?
[22:04] <b14d3> dotty_: You should be able to edit smbd.conf and see those, and edit/rename/remove them
[22:04] <myst3rious> Is your computer set to boot from dick?
[22:04] <myst3rious> I am so sorry. I meant disc
[22:04] <dotty_> The question is, how do i remove the "homes" folder.
[22:05] <bekks> dotty_: You have to edit the samba configuration file and restart samba, for removing the generic homes share.
[22:05] <doost> I don't know what to do, it doesn't recognize the disc, and with the usb, it keeps restarting
[22:05] <b14d3> dotty_: If memory serves, edit /etc/init.d/smbd/smbd.conf, you can google the documentation on it, it's very straightfoward.
[22:06] <``q> hello. is there a way to directly force a PXE boot from a certain IP, from commandline ?
[22:06] <dotty_> under Share Defs, I got [homes] comment = Home Directories browsable  = yes
[22:06] <Erin> b14d3, /etc/samba/smbd.conf I think
[22:06] <bekks> b14d3: That file does not exist ion Ubuntu.
[22:06] <Erin> bekks, see above
[22:06] <bekks> Erin: I know ;)
[22:06] <b14d3> Good call Erin, haven't quite gotten filepaths memorized perfectly yet. Sorry about that dotty_
[22:07] <Erin> lol np..
[22:07] <Erin> b14d3, init.d contains the startup scripts for daemons
[22:07] <dotty_> Ah! Got it. change the "browseable" to no.
[22:08] <bekks> dotty_: That will not remove the share. It will just not been visible.
[22:08] <srhb> My Google-fu is failing me! How do I make Ubuntu "forget" a wireless network? Every time I turn on my wifi adaptor, it tries to connect to a network that isn't mine, presumably because I've misclicked it once. The password dialog pops up for it, which is quite annoying.
[22:08] <b14d3> Thanks Erin, trying to get better with Ubuntu
[22:08] <samphippen> how do I forward port 5443 on my local box via ssh to someserver:1337
[22:08] <dotty_> The "Homes" folder has gone, and now all I've got is my "kevin" folder. Which is what i want.
[22:09] <bekks> dotty_: the home share is not gone, it is not visible. You wont disappear from this earth when just hiding behind a corner.
[22:09] <kickingvegas> srhb: Try "Edit Connections" under the wifi top menu bar symbol
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> samphippen: do you not use a router?
[22:10] <srhb> kickingvegas: Perfect thanks. Strangely that dialog says I've never used the network (even though it's in the list.)
[22:10] <kickingvegas> srhb: np
[22:10] <Drakee> If anyone needs a nice PasteBin site. Feel free to use http://PasteBin.BiessieCloud.com Thanks.
[22:10] <kickingvegas> finding out that power management wifi is just broken in ubuntu.
[22:10] <guntbert> Drakee: no advertising here, thank you
[22:11] <srhb> kickingvegas: Oh?
[22:11] <Drakee> im sorry
[22:11] <Drakee> Just trying to throw out pastebin for users :)
[22:11] <dr_willis> !pastebinit
[22:11] <Drakee> I used them often
[22:11] <srhb> I don't really know. I had to whip out a custom script to deal with internet sharing over wifi, that might have made things worse.
[22:11] <dotty_> Nah, i understand that. I want to share my home folder, but the issue was that on OS X both "kevin" and "homes" was coming up, both pointing to the same folder.
[22:12] <kickingvegas> disabling wifi power management has taken most of the random disconnects I see; unfortunately not all.
[22:12] <dr_willis> dotty_:  samba has a feature to share the users 'homes' and thats how it would work. Whatever user is logged in (say 'bob') connects to the server/homes share. would get routed to  bobs home directory
[22:14] <myst3rious> My god do I hope I just partitioned this drive correctly.
[22:14] <dotty_> Yeah, thats what I want.
[22:15] <dotty_> Thanks for your time! might be back soon!
[22:17] <myst3rious> anyone know if there's a way to brute-force BearShare into working on Ubuntu, seeing as it needs IE 7> and WMP 10>?
[22:17] <myst3rious> erm
[22:17] <myst3rious> IE 7< and WMP 10<
[22:17] <dr_willis> wine and a lot of black magic perhaps.. ask in #windhq perhaps
[22:17] <ikonia> myst3rious: why do that ?
[22:18] <ikonia> either boot into windows, or use an alternative tool
[22:18] <b14d3> I haven't used BearShare since like 2005. I didn't know it still even existed.
[22:18] <dr_willis> I dont even know what bearShare does. so i cant suggest an alternative
[22:18] <_0x783czar> I have a server with a colorized prompt.  I did not set this up on the server, but would like to duplicate this colorized output on another machine.  However I'm not exactly sure where to look for the settings that I need to duplicate.  So far I've taken the /etc/profile.d/99_bashrc.sh file and duplicated it on the other system, but it still doesn't have a colorized promt.  What else can I look at?
[22:18] <b14d3> It's a P2P nontorrent share software
[22:18] <myst3rious> dr_willis: it's a share software for sharing music
[22:19] <almoxarife> dr_willis: it allows you to share bear hugs
[22:19] <dr_willis> _0x783czar:  check the users .bashrc and .profile  theres a color prompt settiogs in there.
[22:19] <dr_willis> _0x783czar:  theres a 'bash prompt howto' at tldp.org that has dozens of things you can do to the promopts
[22:19] <myst3rious> almoxarife: close, it's also a dating/connections thing too
[22:19]  * almoxarife does not date
[22:19] <dr_willis> So you an date bears. ;)
[22:20] <b14d3> Nothin wrong with that lols
[22:20] <myst3rious> "[16:19] * almoxarife does not date" you're in #ubuntu. nuff said.
[22:20] <Erin> ?
[22:20] <b14d3> But, back to a previous point, are you committed to using that software?
[22:20] <Erin> i'm here and I am married lol....
[22:20] <Erin> OT though ;-p
[22:20] <b14d3> I have a boyfriend....
[22:21] <Erin> b14d3, well if ur male more power to you, if you are female no big accomplishment any woman can get a man easily ;-p
[22:21] <Erin> but offtopic so i digress
[22:21] <almoxarife> :) , i can tell that was not a good tangent
[22:22] <myst3rious> too bad all of us aren't that lucky. anyways, I'm not fully comitted, if there's a decent Ubuntu/Debian alternative, I might jump ship to that.
[22:22] <almoxarife> myst3rious: KDE buddy
[22:22] <myst3rious> operative word being "decent" aka "still working and lively"
[22:22] <b14d3> I loves my KTorrent.
[22:22] <Erin> myst3rious, people like arch linux also
[22:23] <myst3rious> I've heard the installing of Arch is a pain in the @$$ though
[22:23] <_0x783czar> dr_willis: thank-you so much that was it!
[22:23] <Erin> myst3rious, it might be now, I think they removed the gui installer
[22:24] <guntbert> !ot | myst3rious , Erin
[22:24] <almoxarife> myst3rious: arch? one question, does it do anything any other distro cant?
[22:24] <Erin> guntbert, really? he asked a question about LINUX i answered it, yes it was not *ubuntu* but can you possibly just be cool for one minute lol ?
[22:25] <k1l> Erin: we have #ubuntu-offtopic and even ##linux for that :) so keep this for ubuntu support, please
[22:25] <SonikkuAmerica> !ot | Erin
[22:25] <Erin> ....
[22:25] <myst3rious> alright. new install is up and running. now let's hope I don't screw it up again
[22:25] <guntbert> Erin: that has nothing to do with "being cool" - just read your last 5-6 comments
[22:26] <Erin> so lets figure this out, my two lines or 20+ lines of 2 people linking me the same thing ?
[22:26] <Erin> and i'm supposed to join #offtopic every time someone asks for a different linux variant ?
[22:26] <drthodt> hey if im on 64bit windows will wubi install 64bit
[22:26] <k1l> Erin: please stop to discuss this here. the point is made, please see the guidelines
[22:26] <SonikkuAmerica> Erin, that isn't exactly a support question
[22:26] <almoxarife> Erin: not to worry, when the chat goes off into #bash or #apache, pounce!
[22:26] <guntbert> Erin: you are supposed to keep your comments *here* strictly to ubuntu support
[22:27] <Erin> i'm done coming here
[22:27] <SonikkuAmerica> drthodt: Yes
[22:27] <Erin> problem solved
[22:27]  * SonikkuAmerica sighs
[22:27] <almoxarife> oh dear
[22:27] <SonikkuAmerica> drthodt: Yes, you can. Depends, you want 32- or 64-bit Ubuntu installed?
[22:28] <k1l> drthodt: you are sure you want wubi and not a real installation?
[22:28] <almoxarife> drthodt: its a 64bit machine, thats what matters
[22:28]  * dr_willis advises running away from wubi.
[22:28] <drthodt> I want 64bit
[22:28] <drthodt> compiles mah droid jellybeans
[22:28] <ccolorado> hi, in an attept to clone a 16 GB SD card to a 32 GB card I ended up with a 16 GB partion on the new card, 'mount -l' says its a 16 GB partition while 'cfdisk' say its a 32 GB. I clonned the SD with dd.
[22:28] <almoxarife> drthodt: so install via the 64bit iso
[22:28] <drthodt> doesnt wubi use the nt bootloader?
[22:28] <ccolorado> Any idea why cfdisk reporst a bigger size ?
[22:28] <drthodt> the installer
[22:29] <ikonia> ccolorado: because that's the "device" but you've cloned the partition table which will be 16gb
[22:29] <drthodt> i want to bitlock my windows 8 and dualboot lts
[22:29] <dr_willis> ccolorado:  use gparted to resize the 16bg partion to fill up th rest of the sd. or make a 2nd partion
[22:29] <SonikkuAmerica> almoxarife, drthodt: To install INSIDE Windows, type in "<parent>\wubi.exe --force-wubi"
[22:29] <SonikkuAmerica> drthodt: where <parent> is wherever the Wubi exe is at
[22:30] <ikonia> you don't want to install insidde a bitlocked NTFS file system
[22:30] <almoxarife> SonikkuAmerica: used wubi for years, thats how i figured out i had a 64bit system
[22:30] <drthodt> yeah I dont want to do that
[22:30] <drthodt> i want it on its own partition
[22:30] <drthodt> using nt bootloader
[22:30] <drthodt> so i can bitlock windows
[22:30] <SonikkuAmerica> drthodt: Unless you're using Windows 7/8 there's no way to do that...
[22:31] <kg> OK, so what's the best way to actually learn linux and not just use linux? I dont lrarn anything real about linux by writing ordninary desktop apps for it and i dont learn anything by usin g it as i use windows. how do i learn linux for real? write a bootloader?
[22:31] <SonikkuAmerica> drthodt: Just saying
[22:31] <drthodt> im on win8
[22:31] <auronandace> kg: a question better asked in ##linux
[22:31] <almoxarife> ikonia: will wubi refuse to install ubuntu within this bitlocked ntfs? or is it a user option?
[22:32] <ikonia> almoxarife: it won't know, but think about it, windows is used to decypt it, so upon rebooting.....
[22:32] <gregor3005> how can i transfer the ubuntu installations iso to an usb stick so it boots on my laptop that boot only from uefi devices?
[22:33] <SonikkuAmerica> Where'd kg go?
[22:33] <dr_willis> gregor3005:  the normal tools to make a bootable usb from iso - should handle that. Or use 'dd' to image the iso directly to usb.
[22:33] <almoxarife> ikonia: i just dont want to give someone bad advice, about installing wubi, i dont have a win8 to play with to know any better
[22:34] <gregor3005> dr_willis: ok i try "dd if=./dvd.iso of=/dev/sde"?
[22:34] <dr_willis> gregor3005:  thats the core of it yes.
[22:34] <SonikkuAmerica> drthodt: Try this page, it uses EasyBCD to configure an install like the one you mentioned: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/use-the-windows-bootloader-to-dual-boot-windows-vista-and-ubuntu.html
[22:34] <dr_willis> gregor3005:  giving a BS= option may speed it up.  ;)
[22:34] <freedomrun> is there a way to enable minimise on click function in ubuntu 12.10 Unity??!
[22:34] <dr_willis> freedomrun:  theres some unofficial unity patches for that.
[22:34] <ccolorado> ikonia: how should i have coned just the content of the partition ? dd if=/dev/sdb1, dd if=/dev/sdb, or something else ? ( given i want to presever dates and stuff like that )
[22:35] <ikonia> ccolorado: dd is not the tool
[22:35] <freedomrun> dr_willis, for 12.10 Unity also?
[22:35] <ikonia> ccolorado: there are tools such as clonezilla, or simple "copy the data" onto the new disk
[22:35] <dr_willis> freedomrun:  last i looked they mentioned 12.10 - i dont use the patch. saw it mentione don webupd8 or omgubuntu sites
[22:36] <freedomrun> dr_willis, thnx
[22:36] <gregor3005> dr_willis: thx i try it
[22:37] <ccolorado> ikonia: what confuses me a lot is cfdisk saying that sdb1 is 32 GB  ( not sdb )
[22:37] <SonikkuAmerica> ccolorado, ikonia: Is that not the partition size?
[22:38] <ikonia> ccolorado: the physical partiton probably is 32bit, but you've copied the 16GB partition table
[22:39] <fjk> hello
[22:39] <fjk> someone testing steam ?
[22:39] <SonikkuAmerica> fjk: Under Wine?
[22:39] <ikonia> fjk: the steam beta has it's own forum with lots of info/testers
[22:39] <fjk> no, native
[22:40] <fjk> i have one simple question
[22:40] <ikonia> fjk: the steam beta has it's own forum with lots of info/testers
[22:40] <fjk> they changed gfc files ?
[22:40] <ikonia> fjk: the steam beta has it's own forum with lots of info/testers
[22:41] <fjk> on first time im copied files from steam for win
[22:41] <ikonia> fjk: are you listening ?
[22:41] <ikonia> fjk: the steam beta has it's own forum with lots of info/testers
[22:41] <fjk> and ?
[22:41] <HumanBeing> How do I install Mari0 (https://launchpad.net/~sleepycat/+archive/mari0?field.series_filter=oneiric) without a high risk (since inofficial repositories are told to be dangerous)?
[22:41] <ikonia> fjk: the steam beta is nothing to do with ubuntu
[22:41] <fjk> this channel is not for talking ?
[22:41] <ajp> !upstart
[22:41] <SonikkuAmerica> fjk: He means go there
[22:41] <ikonia> fjk: no, it's for ubuntu discussion
[22:41] <SonikkuAmerica> !ot | fjk
[22:41] <mgolisch> where would be the right channel to ask questions about ubuntu for android?
[22:41] <MaynardW1ters> hey guys, I have a 5 disk raid array on 11.04 and something got updated and now its not automounting. I can see the multidisk devie. but it does not want to mount ive tried a number of mdadm commands and it appears that it knows there is a md device, but doesnt want to make it active... any suggestions are welcome
[22:41] <ikonia> mgolisch: there is no right channel as they have not released any info on it yet
[22:42] <fjk> hm
[22:42] <mgolisch> ikonia: so its just marketing buzz?
[22:42] <ikonia> mgolisch: well, no, but there is no info on it and hasn't been since the first marketing push
[22:42] <ikonia> mgolisch: I'm sure it's being worked on, but there is nothing known
[22:42] <mgolisch> too bad
[22:42] <ikonia> mgolisch: who knows the "real" status/info on it
[22:43] <abizrcmplx> hello everyone! i thought id give this a try and ask a quick question. id appreciate any help. i installed Lubuntu 12.10 with the mini iso and all works fine except video playback. totem seems to be the only player that will work but i have to keep the size very small so it doesnt skip. playing videos in the browser is no issue at all. im not sure if its a matter of installing a certain codec or that perhaps its somethimg more lik
[22:43] <dr_willis> I want android on ubuntu. :) so i can run my android stuff on my Ubuntu desktop. ;P
[22:44] <SonikkuAmerica> dr_willis: Isn't the Android SDK available for Ubuntu?
[22:44] <HumanBeing> mgolisch: just ask in a forum of your choice.
[22:44] <dr_willis> SonikkuAmerica:  wanting somthing a little more end user friendly :) like that bluez thang on windows.
[22:44] <mgolisch> theres been some work on something called android execution environment @ dr_willis
[22:44] <mgolisch> but i think theres been no progress since 2009
[22:45] <dr_willis> Im getting so used to using my phone/tablets - I find my self doing android-type gestures on my Ubuntu boxs ;)
[22:45] <SonikkuAmerica> abizrcmplx: Can your video drivers handle video playback?
[22:45] <SonikkuAmerica> abizrcmplx: Natively that is
[22:45] <SonikkuAmerica> dr_willis: "Bluez thang"?
[22:45] <dr_willis> abizrcmplx:  the kind of video/size/codec and your system specs can have limitions
[22:45] <HumanBeing> my question again: How do I install Mari0 (https://launchpad.net/~sleepycat/+archive/mari0?field.series_filter=oneiric) without a high risk (since inofficial repositories are told to be dangerous)?
[22:45] <ccolorado> ikonia: mm maybe wording is confusing me, I think your last message says that the SD has no free space (FYI It has like 4 GB of free space ). If not, then i dont understand your answer
[22:46] <dr_willis> SonikkuAmerica:  some anroid-enviroment they have on windows now. i forget its name. had blue in it i belive.
[22:46] <ikonia> ccolorado: how many partitions are on the disk
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> HumanBeing: you need love from the ppa
[22:46] <ikonia> (on the SD)
[22:46] <ccolorado> ikonia: just that one (sdb1)
[22:46] <ikonia> ccolorado: right, so it spans the whole disk
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> HumanBeing: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[22:46] <SonikkuAmerica> dr_willis: Hmm... something to research
[22:46] <abizrcmplx> sonikkuamerica:  yes. i dont have an issue on other distros as long as compiz or any kind of effects are enabled. like with linux mint 13 xfce "vlc" play works fine.
[22:46] <ikonia> ccolorado: therefore it's 32gb in size
[22:47] <xyzone> anyone got steam beta to run on amd64?
[22:47] <dr_willis> SonikkuAmerica:  bluestacks.com - aparantly a OS-X version is in alpha
[22:47] <ikonia> xyzone: the people on the steam beta forum may have
[22:47] <ccolorado> ikonia: even if mount -l reports it being 16 GB in size ?
[22:47] <HumanBeing> ActionParsnip: precise ;)
[22:47] <ikonia> ccolorado: please try to listen
[22:47] <ikonia> ccolorado: you've got a partition that covers the whole disk
[22:47] <SonikkuAmerica> dr_willis: I'm downloading it now, wonder what this could mean
[22:47] <ikonia> however, you have copied the partition TABLE from the 16GB SD card when you did DD
[22:48] <dr_willis> SonikkuAmerica:  Not sure if willwork in wine. it does work 'ok' in windows last i tried it.
[22:48] <ikonia> so software that queries the partition table will report 16GB, software that queries the physical device will report 32gb
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> HumanBeing: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:bartbes/love-unstable; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install love-unstable
[22:48] <SonikkuAmerica> dr_willis: I'm in Windows 8 right now
[22:48] <dr_willis> SonikkuAmerica:  you have my condolances.. ;P
[22:48] <HumanBeing> ActionParsnip: Is it possible to install it without adding the ppa?
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> HumanBeing: then run:  ls /usr/bin | grep love      what is output?
[22:49] <SonikkuAmerica> dr_willis: Condolences?! I think it's great!
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> HumanBeing: you need love 8.1, which isn't in the repos
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> !info love
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> HumanBeing: mari0 needs 0.8.1
[22:49] <ccolorado> ikonia: got it. thanks :)
[22:49] <trism> 4/lastlog HumanBeing 20
[22:49] <trism> oops sorry
[22:51] <DaItsicle> Hello, I need help updating drivers in gnome classic. Anyone know how?
[22:51] <dr_willis> DaItsicle:  clarify what you need.
[22:51] <dr_willis> gnome clasic or whatever desktop.. shouldent matter.
[22:51] <SonikkuAmerica> dr_willis: :( It doesn't work with Intel integrated graphics
[22:51] <dr_willis> SonikkuAmerica:  ;) it wants mono for windows in wine also. ;P
[22:52] <DaItsicle> Well I got my steam beta invite, and it said i need to update opengl drivers, but I googled around and haven't found much.
[22:52] <dr_willis> DaItsicle:  whats your video card?
[22:52] <HumanBeing> ActionParsnip: but I can't find packages for it...
[22:52] <gregor3005> which filesystem does ubuntu use per default? i have to use gpt so it boots from uefi for my asus f201e netbook
[22:52] <ActionParsnip> HumanBeing: packages for what?
[22:52] <dr_willis> gregor3005:  ext4
[22:52] <ikonia> gregor3005: ext4
[22:52] <DaItsicle> Amd/ati radeon
[22:53] <ahammond> I used apt-get install rabbitmq-server, then dpkg -L rabbitmq-server and note that it says it includes /etc/init.d/rabbitmq-server. ls /etc/init.d/rabbitmq-server does not exist. WTF?
[22:53] <HumanBeing> ActionParsnip: For love and Mari0
[22:53] <gregor3005> sry i meant partitiontable type
[22:53] <ikonia> ahammond: don't need comments like "WTF" please.
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> HumanBeing: its not in a package
[22:53] <ikonia> gregor3005: it will use what you tell it to use
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> HumanBeing: wget http://stabyourself.net/dl.php?file=mari0-1006/mari0-linux.zip; unzip ./mari0-linux.zip; rm ./mari0-linux.zip
[22:54] <gregor3005> ikonia: i used the live cd to install ubuntu and it dont asked me
[22:54] <ahammond> ikonia: ok, more generally, if the package manifest says it includes X, I install the package and file X doesn't exist, uh… what gives?
[22:54] <gregor3005> i said it should use the whole disk
[22:54] <gregor3005> i wait if it works with default values
[22:54] <ikonia> ahammond: you've not got that package from the ubuntu repos have you
[22:55] <ahammond> ikonia: got it from the rabbitmq PPA
[22:55] <ActionParsnip> HumanBeing: its a single .love file, you open it with love and it runs
[22:55] <ActionParsnip> HumanBeing: simples
[22:55] <ikonia> ahammond: so the person who maintains that appears to not be doing a good job
[22:55] <ikonia> ahammond: you'll need to contact to PPA maintainer
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> HumanBeing: did you install love-unstable from the PPA?
[22:56] <ahammond> ikonia: so, manually extracted the file using dpkg -x and the file is in there… but ???
[22:56] <ikonia> ahammond: ubuntu dosn't use that init system any more
[22:56] <HumanBeing> ActionParsnip: OK, thanks :) I hoped there would be an easier way to install it, but your descriptions helped me
[22:56] <ikonia> ahammond: hence why you'll need to contact the PPA maintainer
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> HumanBeing: its not hard
[22:56] <HumanBeing> ActionParsnip: No, I did nothing right now
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> HumanBeing: add a ppa, install a package, download the game and run the app
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> HumanBeing: you may need to link /usr/bin/love-unstable to /usr/bin/love
[22:57] <ahammond> ikonia: I'm less interested in the specific file being extracted than in the fact that not all of the files got extracted.
[22:57] <ikonia> ahammond: because those file destinitions no longer exist
[22:57] <ikonia> ahammond: contact the package maintainer
[22:57] <HumanBeing> ActionParsnip: Well, in comparison to other OSs it is hard ;)
[22:57] <ajp> instead of using upstart, is it wise to add my script to @reboot in crontab?
[22:58] <ahammond> ikonia: ok, thanks
[22:59] <DaItsicle> Any help at updating open gl for amd mobility radeon hd 4200?
[22:59] <hecconte> Hi, I'm new to Xchat, Is there any spanish channel for ubuntu or xubuntu? Thanks.
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> HumanBeing: i'd say it was simple, plus as the repo gets updated so will your packages, which other systems don't do
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> HumanBeing: also, other apps using love are updated in the same step, other OSes don't have that feature
[23:00] <ajp> !logrotate.d
[23:00] <serp_> hecconte: #ubuntu-es
[23:00] <serp_> #ubuntu-es-cafe
[23:00] <serp_> #kubuntu-es
[23:00] <serp_> #xubuntu-es
[23:00] <serp_> #lubuntu-es
[23:00] <FloodBot1> serp_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:00] <serp_> ok thx FloodBot1 very helpful
[23:00] <HumanBeing> ActionParsnip: Do I have to add an repo for every app, which isnt in the official repo?
[23:01] <hecconte> serp_: Thank you very much.
[23:01] <ActionParsnip> HumanBeing: its one way to install, love is in the repos, just that its not new enough for the app, so you need an extra source for the newer version
[23:01] <HumanBeing> ActionParsnip: because I read, that you shouldnt add too much ppas...
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> HumanBeing: ideally but if you need them then you have that freedom
[23:02] <HumanBeing> ActionParsnip: Thx a lot!
[23:02] <malrog> hi does anyne know anything about nvidia optimus, i got geforce 540m grapihcs and it gets hot really hot about 90-92c when i play games with optirun
[23:02] <serp_> install windows
[23:03] <serp_> it rúns better there
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> malrog: optimus is a massive headache in linux
[23:03] <xyzone> megatron won on linux
[23:03] <malrog> yes ive noticed that but i like ubuntu
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> malrog: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee   may help
[23:03] <xyzone> i'm boycotting buying anything with optimus
[23:03] <serp_> or buy a new laptop
[23:04] <malrog> Actionparsnip: ive been looking there and other places but found no answer about the heat problem
[23:05] <xyzone> malrog, are you using bumblebee?
[23:05] <darkhalo117> What's the best software to convert my dvd's to a format that I can use on an ipod? (Preferably for ubuntu)
[23:05] <malrog> xyzone: yes im using bumblebee
[23:05] <xyzone> darkhalo117, depends on which ipod, gtkpod used to work, now it won't
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> darkhalo117: there is no single best app to do anything on any OS
[23:06] <serp_> listing files has a good standard app
[23:06] <SuperBurrito> how do I remove ubuntu from my linux?
[23:06] <remsSs> Hi everybody
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> darkhalo117: if there was a single best, the others would cease to be developed as nobody would use them
[23:06] <serp_> SuperBurrito: troll much?
[23:06] <RickZilla> SuperBurrito: How is it configured right now?
[23:06] <xyzone> SuperBurrito, alt+ctrl+delete
[23:07] <darkhalo117> Well I haven't lived in a cave for the last 20 years so I realize that
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> darkhalo117: so why ask what the best is, when you know it doesn't exist?
[23:07] <darkhalo117> I don't consider your word to be celestial. No offense
[23:07] <darkhalo117> I would love your opinion
[23:08] <RickZilla> If somebody's first language isn't English, they may use 'best' to mean something else
[23:08] <diverdude> Hi. using acrobat professionel its possible to write data in a pdf...like i have a schema and i want to write values in this schema using the computer instead of writing it in hand.....I dont have adobe proffesionel...is there a linux alternative for this?
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> darkhalo117: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-dvd-ripper-software.html
[23:08] <darkhalo117> Thank you
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> RickZilla: judging by the language, I think we can say that english isn't an issue
[23:09] <SuperBurrito> serp_: troll: command not found
[23:09] <SuperBurrito> RickZilla: when my robot boots up the ubuntu is layered on to the kernel
[23:09] <fooooooobar> wow mounting samba shares should be easier
[23:09] <xyzone> diverdude, I think gimp can write pdf, not sure what a schema is
[23:09] <RickZilla> diverdude: try pdfedit, should be in the repo
[23:10] <dgalih> i'm using Neodownloader (from windows) to grab video or pict from website. is there an alternative from LINUX?
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> fooooooobar: nautilus does it painlessly
[23:10] <RickZilla> SuperBurito: You can always run a disk wipe utility
[23:10] <xyzone> dgalih, yes, there's addons for firefox and chrome
[23:10] <SuperBurrito> RickZilla: with a cloth a Windex?
[23:10] <SuperBurrito> OK I will wipe it
[23:10] <RickZilla> something like that
[23:11] <xyzone> with acid
[23:11] <dgalih> xyzone, how to use it?
[23:11] <xyzone> dgalih, try download helper for firefox
[23:12] <fooooooobar> not got nautlis, using xubuntu file manager, got it sorted now but seriously something should just auto do that for me :) i actualy got foobar200 running quicker than it took me to access my remote drives
[23:15] <ActionParsnip> fooooooobar: is it pcmanfm in xubuntu?
[23:16] <fooooooobar> thunar
[23:16] <dgalih> xyzone, thanks. i'll try it first
[23:19] <e66> Everytime I push something to bitbucket it prompts like this. "Enter passphrase for key '/home/e66/.ssh/id_rsa'". How can I make it more readable?
[23:20] <e66> I mean something like "Enter your default passphrase"
[23:20] <Pelo> evening , I'm trying to setup google talk in empathy and I'm getting a network error message , can anyone help ?
[23:21] <HumanBeing> Pelo: You should write the error message, before anybody can answer this ;)
[23:22] <Pelo> HumanBeing, it did
[23:22] <Pelo> i did
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> fooooooobar: i believe thunar can hit samba shares
[23:22] <Pelo> HumanBeing, network error is the message
[23:24] <HumanBeing> Pelo: try to run “killall telepathy-butterfly”
[23:25] <HumanBeing> and restart empathy
[23:25] <Pelo> HumanBeing,  no process found
[23:26] <ajp> trying to create an upstart file, how does this look? http://pastebin.com/DVhstVqa
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> fooooooobar: http://xubuntugeek.blogspot.co.uk/2011/12/add-support-for-samba-shares-to-thunar.html
[23:26] <Rolo__> would anyone be interested in helping me install ubuntu?
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> Rolo__: post your issue and the channelwill help if it can
[23:26] <Nik05> put CD/DVD in an follow steps
[23:26] <HumanBeing> Pelo:  do you use username@gmail.com as the login ID?
[23:26] <Pelo> HumanBeing, yes
[23:27] <Rolo__> well here is my issue, my netbook won't boot the USB disk and I have no optical drive
[23:27] <Rolo__> my remaining option is to use the pxe
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> Rolo__: did you set the USB as the first boot device?
[23:28] <HumanBeing> Pelo: strange... I had the error, when I logged in with my username without the  @gmail.com
[23:28] <Rolo__> I set the usb as the boot priority
[23:28] <Rolo__> and my machine skips to pxe
[23:28] <Rolo__> i recently got a boot sector virus
[23:28] <Rolo__> my motherboard reads the hardrive but cant boot from it
[23:29] <HumanBeing> Pelo: Ah: write talk.google.com as the server in the advanced settings of the account
[23:29] <Pelo> HumanBeing, the annoying thing is that my regular account in empathy uses the same gmail and works fine
[23:30] <Pelo> HumanBeing, ok where do I find those advances settings, I can'T locate them anywhere
[23:30] <marlboroman> hi.
[23:31] <HumanBeing> Edit > Accounts > the  google talk account > advanced
[23:31] <marlboroman> when i do "which java" in my terminal, i get JAVA_HOME/bin/java which is perfectly normal.
[23:31] <Googol30> I've been trying to mount a 256 Megabyte flash drive formatted in FAT32 on Ubuntu Server 12.04 for the last 2 and a half hours now.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.
[23:31] <marlboroman> but when i do sudo which java, i don't see anything.
[23:31] <marlboroman> how can i fix this
[23:31] <almoxarife> Rolo__: so are you wanting to overwrite the boot sector with the ubuntu install?
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> Googol30: what device nam is the partition?
[23:31] <HumanBeing> Pelo: Edit > Accounts > the  google talk account > advanced
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> Rolo__: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[23:32] <Pelo> HumanBeing, I don'T see that anywhere , I get the the account portion,  I see  my google talk account setup but no advanced settings ,  all I can do is "edit my connection parameters" (translated from the french)
[23:32] <Googol30> If by partition name, you mean sda, sdb, sdc... etc... then I really haven't a clue. I wish I could figure that out.
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> Googol30: run:  sudo fdisk -l     one block will identify the SD card (look at the disk sizes)
[23:33] <tjbiddle> anyone have experience with setting ulimit within an upstart (/etc/init) script?
[23:34] <HumanBeing> Pelo: you are right, I checked it now. OK, another try: use @googlemail.com
[23:35] <fooooooobar> thanks ActionParsnip some usefull info ther
[23:35] <almoxarife> HumanBeing: did you mean gmail.com?
[23:35] <ActionParsnip> fooooooobar: yeah, gvfs is dead handy :)
[23:36] <HumanBeing> Pelo: No, use the long domain: @googlemail.com
[23:36] <Pelo> HumanBeing, tried, ddin'T do much
[23:37] <hetii> Hello :>
[23:37] <Monotoko> hey all, does anyone know what "wish" is?
[23:37] <Monotoko> and where I can get it?
[23:37] <hetii> I have this issue on my mint dystribution: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=93095
[23:37] <Monotoko> "/opt/Aptana_Studio_3/plugins/com.aptana.git.core_3.0.0.1345235597/os/linux/askpass.tcl: 3: exec: wish: not found"
[23:37] <hetii> after first login or autologin when i type enter in console i`m back to login screen
[23:38] <ActionParsnip> hetii: mint isn't supported here
[23:38] <ActionParsnip> !mint | hetii
[23:38] <HumanBeing> Pelo: found this: "ya, I deleted my Google talk account, then I readded it but this time I selected Jabber instead of Google Talk. I changed the Server field under Advanced to the google server, talk.google.com, used my full email as username with my password, and I left all the SSL options unticked."
[23:38] <Pelo> HumanBeing, ok I deleted all the accounts sarted from scratch and I can now connect,  but I can'T dial a phone number to make a call useing my computer
[23:38] <Googol30> It looks like it's either sda2, or sda5, attempting the mount the former gives me "unable to read superblock" while attempting to mount the latter gives "unknown filesystem type 'LVM2_member'"
[23:38] <hetii> but its based on ubuntu relase, so would be helpfull if someone here know how to fix it :)
[23:39] <Pelo> HumanBeing, trying your latest
[23:39] <ActionParsnip> hetii: none of the ubuntu based distros are suported here
[23:39] <hetii> of course i aks there also :)
[23:39] <ActionParsnip> hetii: similarly, ubuntu is based on debian, but if you ask for ubuntu support in #debian you will be pointed here
[23:39] <marlboroman> when i do "which java" in my terminal, i get JAVA_HOME/bin/java which is perfectly normal. but "sudo which java" doesn't show anything therefore i cannot use java as root. how can i fix this? java_home is set in my ~/.bashrc and it's on my $PATH as well.
[23:40] <ActionParsnip> hetii: you aren't using Ubuntu or a Canonical release, so it's not supported here
[23:40] <ActionParsnip> marlboroman: did you set the java home in /root/.bashrc too ?
[23:41] <ssfdre38> how can i get sticky keys off cause the control panel doesnt do it for me and i want to hard code it off
[23:41] <hetii> I see your point ActionParsnip, but as i said i ask on several channel to find solution.
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> Googol30: so your SD card has multiple partitions on it?
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> hetii: you need to ask in the mint support channel and they will advise
[23:42] <k1l> hetii: instead of asking in the wrong channels you could ask in the right one and save your and our time :)
[23:42] <Googol30> It shouldn't... I just reformatted it with FAT32.
[23:42] <Googol30> Does the superblock thing mean anything relevent?
[23:42] <ActionParsnip> Googol30: then it's not sda (which is probably your OS drive). If you pastebin the output, we can advise
[23:42] <Pelo> HumanBeing, ok that stuff with jabber seems to be working, meaning I connect, what I want to do is make a phonecall to a regular number using google talk,  I go in empathy to discussion > new call > enter the number in the field but the buttons at the bottom do not light up
[23:43] <Pelo> HumanBeing, thanks for your patience,  I've been on the other end of this discussion and I know how it can be
[23:43] <Googol30> How do I pastebin something from the server without typing the whole thing out?
[23:44] <ActionParsnip> Googol30: sudo apt-get install pastebinit; sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit    should fly
[23:44] <almoxarife> Pelo: i have found that 'yate' is much easier to configure for using your google number to make calls, i use it regularly without fail
[23:44] <ActionParsnip> Googol30: the URL should be short enough to type out (case sensitive)
[23:45] <Pelo> almoxarife, thanks i,ll tive it a wirl
[23:46] <HumanBeing> Pelo: http://askubuntu.com/questions/108634/how-do-i-receive-incoming-google-voice-calls-using-empathy
[23:47] <Kellur> How can I make firefox open mpeg and avi files with vlc? Now it tries to open them with GIMP.
[23:47] <Pelo> almoxarife, is yate cli ?
[23:47] <Googol30> This is the worst behaved Ubuntu has ever been... now it's giving me "Unable to fetch some archives" upon attempting to install pastebinit.
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> Kellur: if you double click avi files, do they also open with gimp?
[23:48] <ssfdre38> is there a way to hard code out sticky keys
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> Googol30: maybe the repo you are trying to access is being worked on....
[23:48] <almoxarife> Pelo: no, you add the applet for your graphics, there may be a cli version, i dont use it
[23:48] <Kellur> ActionParsnip: No, it opens them correctly with VLC.
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> Kellur: isn't there a vlc-mozilla package or some such (not 100% sure as I don't use firefox)
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> Kellur: mozilla-plugin-vlc
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> Kellur: do you have that installed?
[23:50] <almoxarife> Pelo: you are wanting to make out-going calls, yate wont receive google numbered calls either
[23:50] <Kellur> ActionParsnip: No but for some files VLC already works...
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> Kellur: you do know the default install would already open the files in totem and work...
[23:52] <Pelo> almoxarife, trying to configure it how
[23:52] <Kellur> ActionParsnip: I'm actually on Xubuntu, and I don't like Totem.
[23:53] <ActionParsnip> Kellur: not sure what xubuntu uses but totem in ubuntu would work and play the vids, not sure what there is to not like...
[23:53] <ActionParsnip> Kellur: i'd try the package, may help
[23:54] <Kellur> ActionParsnip: OK, I just installed it... will try.
[23:55] <Pelo> thanks guys, I'll work on this again later
[23:55] <ActionParsnip> kemmotar: you do know that vlc uses Qt, so when you installed it you pulled in a tonne of Qt libs as deps
[23:56] <ActionParsnip> Kellur: you will need to close all firefoxes, then make sure it's not running with:  ps -ef | grep -i firefox | grep -v grep        then rerun to load the new plugin
[23:56] <Kellur> ActionParsnip: Still doesn't work. I think it's Firefox that is buggy. It just offers GIMP and doesn't let me change settings.
[23:56] <ed_moulton> How do I use a joystick?  I don't see anything like what's in XP.  I'm using xubuntu 10.04
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> Kellur: if you make a new ubuntu user and log in there, is it the same?
[23:57] <devrand0m> pgrep -f firefox
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> !info jscalibrator
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> hmm
[23:58] <ActionParsnip> ed_moulton: Lucid has less than 6 months support left, you may want to upgrade soon
[23:58] <ActionParsnip> !info jscalibrator lucid
[23:58] <ed_moulton> ActionParsnip, I did that.  I've also installed joystick (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1729315) and still no love
[23:59] <ed_moulton> ActionParsnip, Really?  I thought I had like five years...
[23:59] <Googol30> Any simply way to test if I have internet? I think I might have messed something up earlier when trying to assign myself a static internal IP.