| zorael | how ready for daily use is raring's (kernel's) btrfs? | 00:08 |
|---|---|---|
| * penguin42 hasn't used btrfs - imho it's not just hte kernel, it's the tools as well that you need to check are up to date | 00:12 | |
| MechanisM | hello! I'm trying to upgrade from 12.10 to 13.04 and having same issue as described here http://askubuntu.com/questions/222296/cant-upgrade-to-ubuntu-13-04-development-release | 02:58 |
| BluesKaj | tried the 3.7 kernel on 12.10 ...no go , just a black screen , no responses from KB or mouse , so no tty ...had to reinstall the OS | 02:59 |
| MechanisM | when I'm running "update-manager -d" it shows new version, I"m clicking upgrade and it's closed. when trying do-release-upgrade it's showing me "No new release found" | 03:01 |
| BluesKaj | MechanisM, the 13.04 release uses the 3,7 kernel , good li=uck with it ..your command for a development release is ," sudo do-release-upgrade -d " | 03:03 |
| BluesKaj | BBL | 03:04 |
| MechanisM | thanxx | 03:04 |
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| MechanisM | ohh upgrade packages will be downloaded 1,3GB?? It's better to download cd and reinstall then.. | 03:13 |
| gnomefreak | anyone here that can tell me if libreadline5 is needed? | 06:23 |
| gnomefreak | im getting really tired of apport crashing everytime i try to file a bug on unity, all other packages seem fine | 06:26 |
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| Walther | Uhh, weird error | 12:21 |
| Walther | Err http://fi.archive.ubuntu.com raring Release.gpg Cannot initiate the connection to fi.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (2001:708:310:54::102). - connect (101: Network is unreachable) [IP: 2001:708:310:54::102 80] | 12:21 |
| Walther | I can't get any updates anymore, as apt-get seems to be defaulting to ipv6 | 12:22 |
| Walther | which seems not to be supported by my carrier (not surprised, this is only a mobile data connection tethered) | 12:22 |
| fanys | hello everbyody | 12:39 |
| penguin42 | hey | 12:41 |
| fanys | does anybody know how to install wine1.5 to my raring? i am having problems with multiarch deps | 12:43 |
| fanys | or when it will be possible to install | 12:44 |
| bekks | fanys: Do you use aptitude? | 12:44 |
| fanys | no, just apt-get | 12:44 |
| fanys | shoud i try it? | 12:44 |
| fanys | should* | 12:44 |
| bekks | No :) aptitude has a brokenb multiarch handling afaik. | 12:44 |
| fanys | yeah :D | 12:44 |
| fanys | any idea? | 12:45 |
| penguin42 | fanys: So what errors do you get when you do what? | 12:51 |
| fanys | everything leads to libc6:i386 | 12:52 |
| penguin42 | so, install it | 12:52 |
| fanys | i can't - it depends on debconf:i386 | 12:52 |
| penguin42 | so, install it | 12:52 |
| * penguin42 has libc6:i386 installed | 12:53 | |
| fanys | can't - it ends up in dep hell | 12:53 |
| penguin42 | fanys: Can you use a pastebin to show the actual errors you're seeing | 12:53 |
| fanys | yes | 12:54 |
| fanys | http://pastebin.com/qwMjJU4A | 12:54 |
| fanys | it is in czech :/ | 12:55 |
| penguin42 | can you do the same thing proceeding it with a LANG=C please :-) | 12:55 |
| fanys | i'll try to | 12:55 |
| penguin42 | just do LANG=C apt-get whatever | 12:56 |
| * penguin42 guesses 'ale nebude se instalovat' is not going to be installed | 12:56 | |
| fanys | http://pastebin.com/eQzvE9Rs | 12:58 |
| penguin42 | where are you getting wine1.5 from - I don't see it in my package set? | 13:00 |
| penguin42 | <breakfast> | 13:04 |
| yofel_ | bekks: aptitude's multiarch handling works again since quantal, just safe-upgrade still doesn't work as well as before. | 13:04 |
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| BluesKaj | Howdy all | 14:02 |
| penguin42 | Hey BK | 14:03 |
| BluesKaj | hi penguin42, still no luck with the 3.7 kernel , even on 12.10 | 14:05 |
| penguin42 | BluesKaj: Interesting; what's the last thing you're seeing? | 14:18 |
| BluesKaj | penguin42, nothing, it wouldn't boot | 14:22 |
| penguin42 | you just get a blackscreen? | 14:23 |
| BluesKaj | yup. no cursor , no response to KB or mouse , so I had to reinstall , since I couldn't remove the kernel with the live cd or even update grub | 14:25 |
| penguin42 | but grub lets you just choose the previous kernel, you don't need to reinstall for one bad kernel | 14:25 |
| BluesKaj | there was no grub menu period, there was no way of bringing it up | 14:26 |
| penguin42 | you tried repeatedly banging the right shift straight after the bios? | 14:26 |
| penguin42 | it normally isn't displayed at all | 14:27 |
| BluesKaj | yup | 14:27 |
| penguin42 | that's unusual | 14:27 |
| BluesKaj | it is on this pc , i have other OS partitions | 14:27 |
| penguin42 | yeh | 14:27 |
| penguin42 | BluesKaj: I tend to edit /etc/default/grub to give me a second or two to prod it | 14:29 |
| penguin42 | BluesKaj: If you set GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=false and increase GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT then run grub-update it should display a message and give you a few seconds | 14:30 |
| BluesKaj | I tried to reinstall grub to the / on this partition using the live cd , but it couldn't find it | 14:31 |
| penguin42 | if it's booting then you shouldn't need to rewrangle grub | 14:31 |
| BluesKaj | yes I have the time out set to 10 secs | 14:31 |
| BluesKaj | it 's fine now that i'm using the latest 3.5 kernel | 14:32 |
| penguin42 | next time you feel like trying it, install the kernel then follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKernelBoot to get it to give all the boot messages and then you have a chance of seeing what's up | 14:33 |
| BluesKaj | penguin42, it's no point , the kernel doesn't boot here, period | 14:35 |
| BluesKaj | I'm very famliar with that boot proicedure , I've suggested to many ppl over the yrs | 14:36 |
| penguin42 | BluesKaj: It's really really odd to get *nothing* out when booting a kernel though; I mean to stop after a few lines sure, but nothing is relaly odd | 14:42 |
| penguin42 | BluesKaj: What CPU is in there? | 14:42 |
| penguin42 | BluesKaj: I know someone else who has boot problems with the Ubuntu 3.7, but that's giving him some output and it's stopping at the calibrating TSC, that's on an early 64bit P4 | 14:44 |
| BluesKaj | amd 64 | 14:45 |
| BluesKaj | here | 14:45 |
| gnomefreak | ubuntu 3.7? | 14:46 |
| gnomefreak | hi penguin42 BluesKaj | 14:46 |
| BluesKaj | gnomefreak, 3.7 kernel | 14:47 |
| gnomefreak | ah | 14:48 |
| BluesKaj | I have an early band practice today ...gotta go , talk to you guys later | 14:48 |
| gnomefreak | are you both on 13.04, and can try to reproduce a bug for me? | 14:48 |
| penguin42 | sure | 14:49 |
| gnomefreak | s/both/both of you | 14:49 |
| gnomefreak | penguin42: bug 1082658 | 14:49 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1082658 in apport (Ubuntu) "apport keeps crashing when i try to file a bug on Unity" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1082658 | 14:49 |
| penguin42 | right, let me just boot my raring vm - my main machine is running KDE raring | 14:51 |
| gnomefreak | penguin42: cool thanks | 14:52 |
| penguin42 | it's thinking | 14:53 |
| gnomefreak | i am too but i bet yours will be done first | 14:54 |
| penguin42 | gnomefreak: Do you get that immediately, it's asking me if it's a purely graphical issue or not? | 14:54 |
| gnomefreak | penguin42: it show the apport collecting than crashes. its not recording crash in /var/crash either | 14:54 |
| gnomefreak | penguin42: i had that message once or twice but not normally | 14:55 |
| gnomefreak | and yes it is graphical | 14:55 |
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| * gnomefreak wonders if i can get away with filing the bug under gnome than add unity to the bug than apport-collect | 14:56 | |
| penguin42 | gnomefreak: Are you in a non-english language? | 14:56 |
| gnomefreak | penguin42: no | 14:56 |
| gnomefreak | penguin42: i am english as a first language | 14:56 |
| penguin42 | hmm, so it's got as far as firefox for me | 14:56 |
| penguin42 | gah and then my X has died | 14:57 |
| gnomefreak | thats not good | 14:57 |
| penguin42 | it's bug 1043513 which I've done a patch for | 14:57 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1043513 in xserver-xorg-video-cirrus (Ubuntu) "Xorg crashed with SIGABRT in memcpy() via cirRefreshArea() under KVM virtual machine" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1043513 | 14:57 |
| penguin42 | gnomefreak: But it doesn't look like I've hit your bug | 14:57 |
| gnomefreak | penguin42: thanks for testing. sorry about X | 14:58 |
| penguin42 | gnomefreak: Hey it's only my VM, not a problem | 14:58 |
| * gnomefreak goes for ssmoke and to think be back soon | 15:00 | |
| penguin42 | gnomefreak: The reason I mention the non-english is the error looks like a non-ascii type thing | 15:01 |
| * gnomefreak looks | 15:08 | |
| gnomefreak | penguin42: from this "UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode character '\xed' in position 40: ordinal not in range(128)" | 15:08 |
| penguin42 | yeh that's what made me think that | 15:09 |
| gnomefreak | if i had to guess i would say that is exactly why its crashing | 15:10 |
| penguin42 | nod | 15:10 |
| penguin42 | so if you're running in English (like me) where the heck is it getting the \xed from | 15:10 |
| gnomefreak | not sure | 15:10 |
| * penguin42 doesn't know Python, so can't really help much | 15:11 | |
| gnomefreak | i know a little python but not enough to figure this out | 15:11 |
| gnomefreak | penguin42: how hard is it to set-up/run a vm? | 15:12 |
| penguin42 | gnomefreak: easy | 15:13 |
| gnomefreak | ive been using Ubuntu since brezzy dev cycle and still havent tried a vm | 15:13 |
| penguin42 | gnomefreak: There are a few choices, I use kvm, some use virtualbox | 15:13 |
| penguin42 | I just use virt-manager to run it | 15:14 |
| * gnomefreak goes in search of a wiki | 15:15 | |
| gnomefreak | is kvm gui or cli? | 15:18 |
| penguin42 | gnomefreak: kvm is the stuff at the back, virt-manager provides a gui | 15:19 |
| IdleOne | you might try testdrive | 15:21 |
| penguin42 | gnomefreak: http://www.treblig.org/pics/withkvm.png | 15:22 |
| gnomefreak | does it use the main $HOME or does it make its own? | 15:24 |
| penguin42 | gnomefreak: It's a virtual machine, so it's got it's own disk image, it's all self contained | 15:25 |
| gnomefreak | good | 15:25 |
| penguin42 | gnomefreak: you can completely nuke the vm and not lose anything on the host | 15:26 |
| gnomefreak | testdrive is the frontend for kvm? | 15:26 |
| gnomefreak | i hated chroot due to it using main home dir, and i lost alot a bunch of times for not shutting it down properly | 15:27 |
| penguin42 | yeh chroot isn't really designed for trying new installs in - things are just too complex these days | 15:30 |
| gnomefreak | i was using chroot to test things and build packages | 15:31 |
| gnomefreak | ok this wiki looks old https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Installation anything more up-to-date with testdrive would be nice to but using search im not finding anything that looks helpful after the pre-install checklist | 15:32 |
| penguin42 | gnomefreak: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/VirtManager is virt-manager, I've not tried testdrive | 15:33 |
| gnomefreak | penguin42: thanks that looks alot more helpful than all the ones i looked at | 15:34 |
| yofel | penguin42: testdrive manages testing of ubuntu (and flavour) daily images. You can sync the images and run them in a VM with it | 16:18 |
| penguin42 | yofel: Yeh, just never used it | 16:19 |
| yofel | it's nice for quick tests. For the actual install tests I run kvm by hand too | 16:20 |
| gnomefreak | i have to wait until my brain gets back from vacation before i can try it | 16:21 |
| IdleOne | if your brain has any brains it won't come back from vacation | 16:24 |
| IdleOne | :) | 16:24 |
| gnomefreak | lol | 16:25 |
| penguin42 | yofel: Hmm screen lock in k+1 is annoying me | 18:00 |
| yofel | what's wrong with it? | 18:00 |
| penguin42 | hmm | 18:00 |
| penguin42 | yofel: When you've got the unlock screen up there doesn't seem to be anyway to get it to go away and relock (I've filed a bug on that) and also sometimes it doesn't seem to want to take my password until I explicitly click in the entry | 18:01 |
| yofel | I didn't really notice the first point, but yeah, the password field focus isn't really reliable yet | 18:02 |
| penguin42 | yofel: I notice the 1st one because my computer is next to me and when I'm trying to watch TV in hte dark I like it to be black screen | 18:03 |
| penguin42 | yofel: That's kde bug 311116 | 18:05 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 311116 in locker "Simple lock doesn't respond to escape or anyother way to blank again" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=311116 | 18:06 |
| Guest77324 | hello, I'm on nautilus 3.6.3 and when selecting "connect to server", I'm entering url like sftp://root@hostname/ but its sends me to user home dir sftp://root@hostname/root so I can't move to filesystem root. how to solve this? | 18:26 |
| Guest77324 | in previous versions of nautolus I was able to move over all directories when I'm connected as root | 18:27 |
| bekks | using nautilus as root is a bad habbit. | 18:29 |
| Guest77324 | bekks: I'm connecting to server via sftp as root, nautilus running not as root | 18:30 |
| bekks | sftp as root doesnt make things better ;) | 18:31 |
| bekks | I'd use a SFTP capable FTP-client, instead of nautilus. | 18:31 |
| Guest77324 | I love mounting folders | 18:32 |
| Guest77324 | and add to favourites | 18:32 |
| trism | Guest77324: can't you just ctrl+L and navigate to /? (or anywhere else) | 18:33 |
| Guest77324 | yes I can, but I never used this when was using old nautilus in ubuntu 12.04 | 18:34 |
| trism | Guest77324: I see what you mean, though the bookmarks seem to work, might just be a new design decision | 18:42 |
| Guest77324 | I know it's sends me to root home dir, so I'll go in / and will add this to bookmarks. | 18:43 |
| trism | Guest77324: as in, I bookmarked / after connecting to the server and it let me auto connect back to / later (didn't bring me to the home directory) | 18:43 |
| Guest77324 | After today upgrade from 12.10, some bookmarks lost | 18:43 |
| trism | oh I hadn't upgraded yet, let me look | 18:44 |
| Guest77324 | trism: yes, same did I | 18:44 |
| Guest77324 | I mean in old nautilus, when I connected as root, I'm jumped to /root folder, but I'm at least have seen / in breadcrumbs. now if I'm connected in new nautilus, it's showing me root as start of crumbs. | 18:46 |
| Guest77324 | so I was confused. ctrl +L helped me. | 18:46 |
| trism | Guest77324: oh I see, well it doesn't look like we have any theming done for nautilus yet, so the breadcrumbs may be easier to see once it is themed for ambiance | 18:47 |
| Guest77324 | themed nice. I mean there wasn't any option to go somwhere prior root folder(in crumbs) | 18:49 |
| trism | Guest77324: yeah I just noticed that when I looked again, sorry, I thought there would be a little arrow next to it | 18:51 |
| trism | Guest77324: might be worth filing a bug about that if there isn't one already | 18:51 |
| Guest77324 | yes, yes | 18:51 |
| Guest77324 | sorry it's my bad english. I'm badly explained the probles, but you understand me. | 18:52 |
| Guest77324 | problem* | 18:52 |
| Guest77324 | ohhh.. I'm unable to create file in nautilus 3.6.3!! | 18:55 |
| Guest77324 | there's no any option in context menu | 18:55 |
| Guest77324 | I see option for folder, but no for file | 18:55 |
| bjsnider | Guest77324, this has been addressed | 18:57 |
| bjsnider | in your home/Templates folder create an empty file called whatever you want | 18:58 |
| bjsnider | then you will see the option in the context menu | 18:58 |
| Guest77324 | ok, thanx | 18:58 |
| Guest77324 | lol, i've used "touch ~/Templates/empty_file", coz I'm was unable to create file yet. | 19:02 |
| trism | Guest77324: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=683353 seems related too (comment 6 definitely) | 19:21 |
| ubottu | Gnome bug 683353 in daemon "need a way to request a path relative to the default directory" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 19:21 |
| Guest77324 | trism: yep smth like that | 19:22 |
| === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang | ||
| jtaylor | what was the command to get info, like the executable path, of a gui application? | 23:40 |
| jtaylor | kind of like xwininfo but different info | 23:40 |
| penguin42 | hmm | 23:41 |
| penguin42 | xlsclients? | 23:41 |
| trism | jtaylor: xprop? | 23:42 |
| jtaylor | trism: thx thats what I was looking for | 23:42 |
| penguin42 | ooh not seen that one before | 23:43 |
| penguin42 | doing that with -root gets some interesting stuff | 23:46 |
| jtaylor | well using it was not such a great idea ._. | 23:47 |
| jtaylor | crashed my machine | 23:47 |
| penguin42 | just X I assume? | 23:47 |
| jtaylor | no idea, probably memory leak | 23:47 |
| jtaylor | got unusable, no patience to wait until a tty reacts | 23:48 |
| penguin42 | what window did you run it on? | 23:48 |
| jtaylor | activity log manager, but on 12.10 | 23:48 |
| penguin42 | what's activity log manager? | 23:49 |
| jtaylor | gives some control on what zeitgeist does | 23:50 |
| penguin42 | how would I start it? | 23:50 |
| jtaylor | privacy in the dash | 23:50 |
| penguin42 | ah ok | 23:50 |
| penguin42 | jtaylor: Fine here | 23:51 |
| jtaylor | it might have been something else and my action at the time was just a coincidence | 23:51 |
| jtaylor | can't reproduce it | 23:51 |
| penguin42 | hohum | 23:52 |
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