/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/12/08/#ubuntu-za.txt

Kilosmorning superfly and others04:28
Kiloslooks like quassel server survived04:28
magespawnmorning Kilos04:50
Kiloshi magespawn 04:50
magespawnbbl showertime04:51
superflymorning Kilos 05:16
superflyyou're up far too early05:16
superflyhi magespawn 05:17
Kiloshad to check if your quassel was still alive superfly 05:18
Kiloshehe05:19
superflyKilos: it went down *once* and now you're worried?05:21
Kiloslol yeah well you looked for stats again after i went to bed05:22
Kilosso just checking05:22
Kilosdonker werk is konkel werk05:27
Kiloshi aquarat 05:41
magespawnhey superfly05:43
Kiloshehe i upset him this morning05:48
Kilossorry superfly was teasing actually05:50
Kilosoh he gone05:51
Kiloshi psydroid 05:56
Kilosand Squirm 05:56
psydroidhi Kilos05:56
psydroidhi magespawn05:57
psydroidhi superfly05:57
psydroidhi aquarat05:57
mazalMorning everyone06:16
Kiloshi mazal 06:16
magespawnhey psydroid 06:43
magespawno/ mazal06:43
* magespawn goes to kills some pixels in open arena06:45
Kiloshehe06:46
* mazal was beddegoed :P07:00
* magespawn thinks hes is having more fun than mazal07:13
mazalYou defnitely are !! :)07:14
mazalmagespawn, is open arena for online only ? Or does it have single player offline as well ?07:16
Kiloshi Ludo 07:37
Kilosits a fat download07:38
Kilos385 meg or something07:38
Kilosmagespawn, tell man07:38
Kilosis it a lekker game07:38
magespawnKilos if you enjoy fps games yes07:41
Kiloswhats fps07:41
magespawnfirst person shooter07:41
Kilosoh like arcade games07:41
Kilosyou shoot the aliens07:42
magespawnyes a little but from the first person point of view07:45
magespawnthis you can play online versus other ppl but does use data07:47
Kilosand offline too?07:57
Kilosi dont wanna shoot peeps07:57
Kilos4 lb hammer is more satisfying07:58
Kilosand arm gets excersie too07:58
Kilossjoe07:58
Kilosexercise07:58
magespawnyes you can play off line08:09
mazal*sigh* Have to go work08:11
mazalLater all08:11
Kilosty magespawn will check night surfer data and maybe get it08:14
magespawnKilos it is a lot of fun if you enjoy blowing things up08:42
Kiloshehehe08:43
Kiloshi Vince-0 09:24
Vince-0Hi Kilos 09:24
Vince-0Wat gaan aan09:25
Kilosmagespawn, have you played red alert09:25
Kilosstill en rustig Vince-0 09:25
magespawnno not yet09:25
magespawni have heard about it though09:25
Vince-0yoh I got the original soviet and allied discs from their site09:25
Vince-0640x480 for the win09:25
Kilosthe first one was great hadda chick called Tanya in that loved blowing things up09:26
Vince-0lol ya, we used to use a serial cable between two pcs for that09:26
Kiloslol09:26
Vince-0and t-piece and coax after that09:27
Kiloshehe09:32
magespawnnow you guys are really showing your age09:57
Kiloshehe is a great game09:58
Kilosonly prob is getting the cds09:58
magespawnno the serial cable and the coax09:58
KilosAOE4 works internetwise09:59
Kilosoh09:59
magespawndid a clear ou at the fish's school found a whole load of coax with the connectors on10:01
Kiloslol10:02
Kiloscoax still works on idiot boxes10:03
Vince-0starcraft brood wars too10:03
magespawnstill have my discs for that10:04
magespawnuntil recently i had the original warcraft10:06
Vince-0aw, quality10:10
Vince-0the oldest game I still have in a box is carmageddon10:10
magespawni remember that. now that is stress relief10:12
Vince-0stainless is making a new one for release early next year10:14
Vince-0it started as a Kickstarter project - they gave me the originals for sponsering10:14
Vince-0also making an Android and iOS version10:14
charl_good morning10:46
Vince-0haai10:49
magespawncool Vince-010:53
magespawni am off home cheers all10:54
Kilostoods magespawn 10:54
charl_ciao magespawn 11:02
charl_hi Vince-0 11:02
Vince-0checkin out Google Communities on G+11:04
Kiloshi charl_ 11:05
Kiloshi Zarw 11:22
Kiloswb11:22
Symmetriahrm13:03
SymmetriaI had an epiphany :P doing my db processing for my app on the frontend to generate the stats was the height of stupidity13:03
Symmetriarather write another backend application that does the stats generation on a crontab13:04
charl_sounds like a good idea13:08
charl_generating stats can take time and make your application look slow13:08
charl_hi Kilos 13:08
charl_Symmetria: you can even pre-generate the html and save it as a static file, ultimate speed ;)13:09
Symmetriaheh charl it was more a case of, there is simply 2 much data 13:11
Symmetriaand the processing of it to generate the stats13:11
Symmetriawas far 2 complex for php and web code to do efficiently13:11
Kerberoi have that same issue with my one website13:17
Kerberobut i need live data13:17
Kerberocurrently i am just using very optimized queries13:17
Symmetriawtf, dont you hate it when you code something and get wierd compilation errors and you sit there staring at it going "wtf?!"13:41
Symmetriagenerate_stats.c:(.text+0xe): undefined reference to `PQconnectdb'13:41
Symmetriagenerate_stats.c:(.text+0x1e): undefined reference to `PQstatus'13:41
Symmetriafucking bullshit, the libs are included13:41
Symmetriaheh13:43
Symmetriaoh13:43
Symmetriagcc wants -l arguments as last arguments13:43
inetprook where are the 8ta fundies?15:01
Kiloshmm15:01
Kiloswassup15:01
* inetpro got 8ta sim converted to data15:01
inetpronow I should effectively be able to use the specials15:01
Kilosyip15:01
Kilos*180#15:01
inetproso I loaded the 2+1 GB bundle15:02
Kilosi hope15:02
inetprothrough the web interface15:02
Kilosoh good15:02
inetprobut I still had like 445MB left on me prepaid15:02
Kilosit will use that first15:02
inetproand when I test now I can clearly see it still using that15:02
Kiloslol15:02
inetproKilos: ok, that is good to know15:03
Kilosyeah they quite efficient inetpro 15:03
inetproso when that is finished it should start using the 2+1?15:03
Kiloscorrect15:03
inetprovery nice!15:04
* inetpro be back now15:04
Kilosjust the night surfer is late15:04
Kilosmiddle of sleep time15:04
Kiloshows it compare speed wise with vc15:05
nlsthzno/15:55
Kiloshiya nlsthzn 15:56
nlsthznhow are you uncle Kilos ?15:59
Kilosgood ty nlsthzn and you?15:59
nlsthznalways good uncle Kilos , thanks :) 16:00
Kilosyou the other os expert hey nlsthzn ?16:01
Kiloshehe16:01
Kilosare you onna pc now?16:01
nlsthznyup16:02
nlsthznI am on a PC but no expert16:02
nlsthzn:p16:02
Kiloscan you join ##kilos please16:02
nlsthznsounds scary16:03
Kilosthey fight with me when i talk the other os here16:03
Kiloshehe16:03
nlsthznsilly sausages16:03
Kiloslol16:06
nlsthznguys, friend of mine in SA said a guy in his building said he should join http://www.ptawug.co.za/ ... any thoughts comments on this... are there many such "groups" in ZA now?16:12
Kilosptawub is the biggest wug in za methinks16:14
Kilosgot ubuntu users there too16:14
Kilosyou dont get internet but some of them get packages and then you get it from them16:15
inetproif they find out that you're using the internet through the wug you are in trouble16:16
inetprothey are not very friendly peeps when it comes to that16:16
inetprobut the restriction is actually the law16:17
nlsthznwhat is it?  I don't know wug's?16:17
inetproso they are just trying to stick to the letter of the law16:17
inetpronlsthzn: wireless user group16:17
nlsthzn:) ok, but what does that mean 16:18
inetproit's a big wireless network across a very wide area16:18
Kilosyou can join them inetpro they are very friendly16:18
nlsthznah ok... like a WAN16:18
nlsthznshare some files and resources etc?16:18
Kilosi tried once before remember16:18
Kiloslol they even offered to sell me the necessary antenna16:19
* inetpro wanted to join but the high sites where to far away from me home16:19
Kilosi think they are the biggest wug in the southern hemisphere16:20
Kilosthey are on irc as well nlsthzn 16:20
nlsthznah ok thanks uncle Kilos 16:30
Kilosnp16:30
Kiloshope you win16:30
Kilosi battled to find them then xchat went to them and dropped freenode16:31
Kilosgrrr16:31
nlsthznnah, seems the guy wants him to sign up to get free movies etc... seems like they are using it for pirating more than anything (well, in the specific building)16:33
Kilosai16:34
Kiloswhen i told them i just started using ubuntu they offered to get packages for me16:34
nlsthznalways good and bad apples16:35
Kilostell him to get them on irc and chat to the whole group16:37
Kiloshttp://irc.netsplit.de/channels/details.php?room=%23ptawug&net=WugNet16:37
Kilosnot sure if that was the right link anymore16:38
nlsthznno worries uncle Kilos ... he is very tech shy and trying to get him on IRC is more time than I have :p16:39
Kilosshame sorry nlsthzn 16:39
nlsthznnah, that is his problem16:40
Kiloshe on windows hey16:41
Kiloslol16:41
Kilosxchat works on windows too16:42
inetprosuperfly: btw, I did my own little queries on me quassel db and noticed one thing16:44
* inetpro talks to much16:44
nlsthznlol16:44
Kiloslolol16:44
inetproheh Kilos, there's one nick that talks even more than me16:44
nlsthzn^_^16:45
inetproand that nick is Kilos :-)16:45
nlsthznthank you caption obvious :p16:45
nlsthzn*captain16:45
charl_lol16:46
Kiloshahaha16:46
* inetpro shall have to try to talk less16:46
nlsthznnah, when inetpro talks it is worth listening 16:47
Kilosjou beurt is jou beurt16:47
charl_there is a tool... i think it is called pisg or something16:47
charl_you can see who are the biggest talkers on irc16:47
charl_here's one of another channel i am in: http://gavinsharp.com/irc/whatwg.html16:47
inetprocharl_: that is neat!16:48
=== Zarw is now known as Wraz
Kiloshi Wraz 16:49
charl_ah here's another one: http://stats.flexnet.org/ipv6/16:49
charl_apparently i'm not a big talker though... :)16:49
inetprocharl_: do they have monthly stats?16:49
Kiloshaha16:49
charl_ah here's the pisg link: http://pisg.sourceforge.net/16:50
charl_inetpro: i don't really know, i never spent much time on it16:50
charl_inetpro: but afaik the tool is like 10+ years old16:50
Kilosgood tools never age16:51
charl_ooh it's written in perl :S16:51
inetprothe most basic stat that I would see as being useful is the amount of active nicks per month16:52
charl_useful or embarrasing? :)16:52
Kiloswow thats about 10 on good days16:52
Kiloslotsa lurkers though16:52
charl_but yeah it could be interesting16:52
inetproamount of nicks should never be embarrassing 16:53
inetprobut number of lines per nick could be very revealing16:55
charl_yes indeed16:55
Kiloshaha16:55
Kilosi win16:55
charl_just keep your boss from seeing it ;)16:55
charl_or use a pseudonym16:55
Kilosmy boss says i may chat lots16:55
nlsthzn:)16:56
charl_Kilos: i think that would be the exception rather than the rule ;)16:56
Kiloslol16:56
inetproa lot of talking doesn't have to be negative 16:56
inetproKilos's boss likes it if he talks a lot16:57
inetprothe more the better16:57
Kiloshaha16:57
charl_i find irc is a nice distraction in between tasks... getting your mind out of the one thing before you go into the next16:57
charl_while i'm busy working on something i disconnect from the screen running irssi16:58
charl_and then check back in later, so i don't see it as a negative thing either16:58
Kiloshehe16:58
* inetpro would love to see facebook stats16:58
charl_have you heard/read about the research done on employees that use facebook?16:59
charl_on average, they are more productive at work apparently16:59
charl_of course, you also get people who get completely obsessed and that gives the opposite effect...16:59
superflywhat was that, inetpro?16:59
inetprosuperfly: I put the following query into a file query.sql and then ran: psql -f query.sql --tuples-only quassel | uniq -c | sort -nr | nl17:02
inetproselect to_char ( time, 'YYYY-MM' ) as month, substring ( sender.sender from '(^.*)!.*' ) as nick from backlog join sender on sender.senderid = backlog.senderid where type=1 and bufferid = 1 and time > '2012-09-01 00:00:00' and time < '2012-12-01 00:00:00' order by month, nick;17:02
inetproobviously you will be able to improve a lot on that query17:03
inetprooops.... that's the wrong query17:04
inetproI played around a little17:04
charl_wait you got your irc logs in a database?!17:04
inetprothe following should not be part of it: 'to_char ( time, 'YYYY-MM' ) as month'17:04
inetprocharl_: yebo yes, with quasselcore17:05
charl_ah i see, interesting17:05
superflyinetpro: ah, right, OK. I was trying to do my sorting and grouping in SQL, where you did it using "external" tools17:05
charl_you can do some more interesting stuff with that if you really want... like get out all the posted links in the last week or do all kinds of analytics17:06
inetprosuperfly: but I was not done with it yet17:06
charl_if you already have it all in a database it should be simple17:07
inetprostill needs a bit of time and effort17:07
charl_actually there should be a tool that could generate some stats straight from the database17:07
inetprowe should actually try get ibid to build stats 17:09
inetprowhat makes it tough is the fact that one user can have so many multiple nicks over time17:10
charl_yup like me, i just let irssi pick it for me :)17:10
superflyinetpro: yeah, that was my issue as well17:10
charl_but i use multiple networks and most of those don't have a nickserv17:10
charl_funny i was searching for quassel stats generators and found this: https://github.com/rikai/Lavatory17:11
charl_nice name for a project :)17:11
inetproeish!17:12
* inetpro has some more work to do17:12
inetprowbbl17:12
charl_ciao17:12
kodezgreetings18:16
Kiloshi kodez 18:16
kodezuncle Kilos, how are you?18:17
Kilosok ty and you kodez ?18:17
kodezi am better  than yesterday, thanks for asking18:18
Kiloslol you always better than yesterday18:19
Kiloswhere does it end18:19
Kiloshehe18:19
kodezyes indeed. i keep on improving everyay18:19
Kilosgood18:20
inetprohmm....18:41
inetprohe's still minus minus18:41
Kiloshehe hi smile-- 18:41
Kiloshes feeling old tonight18:42
smile--:p18:42
smile--exams :(18:42
Kiloslife is an exam laddy18:42
Kilospassing them all is the trick18:42
smile--;)18:46
* mazal peeks in18:48
charl_hi mazal, Kilos, smile-- 19:12
Kiloshi charl_ 19:12
charl_hahahaha what's up with the -- smile--19:12
Kiloshji mazal 19:12
Kilossjoe19:13
Kilosnaand19:13
charl_hji - that sounds like hi in punjabi19:13
Kiloslol19:13
smile--charl_: I hate those exams :19:14
smile--:o19:15
charl_i know the feeling19:20
charl_i had to do itilv3 a few months ago19:20
charl_i didn't mind attending the course but don't ask me to write exams19:20
charl_in the end i passed with a good margin of safety but i still don't like it19:20
charl_ask me to do stuff, not write exams about doing stuff :)19:21
smile--byee :p19:32
Kilostoods smile-- 19:32
smile--good night oom kilos :)19:33
Kilossleep tight lad19:33
Kilosgrrr19:33
inetprolekker slaap smi19:33
Kiloslol19:33
inetproai19:34
=== Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za
Kiloshi Trixar_za 19:43
Kilosnight all sleep tight19:43
mazalSleep well everyone19:54

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