[04:28] <Kilos> morning superfly and others
[04:28] <Kilos> looks like quassel server survived
[04:50] <magespawn> morning Kilos
[04:50] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[04:51] <magespawn> bbl showertime
[05:16] <superfly> morning Kilos 
[05:16] <superfly> you're up far too early
[05:17] <superfly> hi magespawn 
[05:18] <Kilos> had to check if your quassel was still alive superfly 
[05:19] <Kilos> hehe
[05:21] <superfly> Kilos: it went down *once* and now you're worried?
[05:22] <Kilos> lol yeah well you looked for stats again after i went to bed
[05:22] <Kilos> so just checking
[05:27] <Kilos> donker werk is konkel werk
[05:41] <Kilos> hi aquarat 
[05:43] <magespawn> hey superfly
[05:48] <Kilos> hehe i upset him this morning
[05:50] <Kilos> sorry superfly was teasing actually
[05:51] <Kilos> oh he gone
[05:56] <Kilos> hi psydroid 
[05:56] <Kilos> and Squirm 
[05:56] <psydroid> hi Kilos
[05:57] <psydroid> hi magespawn
[05:57] <psydroid> hi superfly
[05:57] <psydroid> hi aquarat
[06:16] <mazal> Morning everyone
[06:16] <Kilos> hi mazal 
[06:43] <magespawn> hey psydroid 
[06:43] <magespawn> o/ mazal
[06:45]  * magespawn goes to kills some pixels in open arena
[06:46] <Kilos> hehe
[07:00]  * mazal was beddegoed :P
[07:13]  * magespawn thinks hes is having more fun than mazal
[07:14] <mazal> You defnitely are !! :)
[07:16] <mazal> magespawn, is open arena for online only ? Or does it have single player offline as well ?
[07:37] <Kilos> hi Ludo 
[07:38] <Kilos> its a fat download
[07:38] <Kilos> 385 meg or something
[07:38] <Kilos> magespawn, tell man
[07:38] <Kilos> is it a lekker game
[07:41] <magespawn> Kilos if you enjoy fps games yes
[07:41] <Kilos> whats fps
[07:41] <magespawn> first person shooter
[07:41] <Kilos> oh like arcade games
[07:42] <Kilos> you shoot the aliens
[07:45] <magespawn> yes a little but from the first person point of view
[07:47] <magespawn> this you can play online versus other ppl but does use data
[07:57] <Kilos> and offline too?
[07:57] <Kilos> i dont wanna shoot peeps
[07:58] <Kilos> 4 lb hammer is more satisfying
[07:58] <Kilos> and arm gets excersie too
[07:58] <Kilos> sjoe
[07:58] <Kilos> exercise
[08:09] <magespawn> yes you can play off line
[08:11] <mazal> *sigh* Have to go work
[08:11] <mazal> Later all
[08:14] <Kilos> ty magespawn will check night surfer data and maybe get it
[08:42] <magespawn> Kilos it is a lot of fun if you enjoy blowing things up
[08:43] <Kilos> hehehe
[09:24] <Kilos> hi Vince-0 
[09:24] <Vince-0> Hi Kilos 
[09:25] <Vince-0> Wat gaan aan
[09:25] <Kilos> magespawn, have you played red alert
[09:25] <Kilos> still en rustig Vince-0 
[09:25] <magespawn> no not yet
[09:25] <magespawn> i have heard about it though
[09:25] <Vince-0> yoh I got the original soviet and allied discs from their site
[09:25] <Vince-0> 640x480 for the win
[09:26] <Kilos> the first one was great hadda chick called Tanya in that loved blowing things up
[09:26] <Vince-0> lol ya, we used to use a serial cable between two pcs for that
[09:26] <Kilos> lol
[09:27] <Vince-0> and t-piece and coax after that
[09:32] <Kilos> hehe
[09:57] <magespawn> now you guys are really showing your age
[09:58] <Kilos> hehe is a great game
[09:58] <Kilos> only prob is getting the cds
[09:58] <magespawn> no the serial cable and the coax
[09:59] <Kilos> AOE4 works internetwise
[09:59] <Kilos> oh
[10:01] <magespawn> did a clear ou at the fish's school found a whole load of coax with the connectors on
[10:02] <Kilos> lol
[10:03] <Kilos> coax still works on idiot boxes
[10:03] <Vince-0> starcraft brood wars too
[10:04] <magespawn> still have my discs for that
[10:06] <magespawn> until recently i had the original warcraft
[10:10] <Vince-0> aw, quality
[10:10] <Vince-0> the oldest game I still have in a box is carmageddon
[10:12] <magespawn> i remember that. now that is stress relief
[10:14] <Vince-0> stainless is making a new one for release early next year
[10:14] <Vince-0> it started as a Kickstarter project - they gave me the originals for sponsering
[10:14] <Vince-0> also making an Android and iOS version
[10:46] <charl_> good morning
[10:49] <Vince-0> haai
[10:53] <magespawn> cool Vince-0
[10:54] <magespawn> i am off home cheers all
[10:54] <Kilos> toods magespawn 
[11:02] <charl_> ciao magespawn 
[11:02] <charl_> hi Vince-0 
[11:04] <Vince-0> checkin out Google Communities on G+
[11:05] <Kilos> hi charl_ 
[11:22] <Kilos> hi Zarw 
[11:22] <Kilos> wb
[13:03] <Symmetria> hrm
[13:03] <Symmetria> I had an epiphany :P doing my db processing for my app on the frontend to generate the stats was the height of stupidity
[13:04] <Symmetria> rather write another backend application that does the stats generation on a crontab
[13:08] <charl_> sounds like a good idea
[13:08] <charl_> generating stats can take time and make your application look slow
[13:08] <charl_> hi Kilos 
[13:09] <charl_> Symmetria: you can even pre-generate the html and save it as a static file, ultimate speed ;)
[13:11] <Symmetria> heh charl it was more a case of, there is simply 2 much data 
[13:11] <Symmetria> and the processing of it to generate the stats
[13:11] <Symmetria> was far 2 complex for php and web code to do efficiently
[13:17] <Kerbero> i have that same issue with my one website
[13:17] <Kerbero> but i need live data
[13:17] <Kerbero> currently i am just using very optimized queries
[13:41] <Symmetria> wtf, dont you hate it when you code something and get wierd compilation errors and you sit there staring at it going "wtf?!"
[13:41] <Symmetria> generate_stats.c:(.text+0xe): undefined reference to `PQconnectdb'
[13:41] <Symmetria> generate_stats.c:(.text+0x1e): undefined reference to `PQstatus'
[13:41] <Symmetria> fucking bullshit, the libs are included
[13:43] <Symmetria> heh
[13:43] <Symmetria> oh
[13:43] <Symmetria> gcc wants -l arguments as last arguments
[15:01] <inetpro> ok where are the 8ta fundies?
[15:01] <Kilos> hmm
[15:01] <Kilos> wassup
[15:01]  * inetpro got 8ta sim converted to data
[15:01] <inetpro> now I should effectively be able to use the specials
[15:01] <Kilos> yip
[15:01] <Kilos> *180#
[15:02] <inetpro> so I loaded the 2+1 GB bundle
[15:02] <Kilos> i hope
[15:02] <inetpro> through the web interface
[15:02] <Kilos> oh good
[15:02] <inetpro> but I still had like 445MB left on me prepaid
[15:02] <Kilos> it will use that first
[15:02] <inetpro> and when I test now I can clearly see it still using that
[15:02] <Kilos> lol
[15:03] <inetpro> Kilos: ok, that is good to know
[15:03] <Kilos> yeah they quite efficient inetpro 
[15:03] <inetpro> so when that is finished it should start using the 2+1?
[15:03] <Kilos> correct
[15:04] <inetpro> very nice!
[15:04]  * inetpro be back now
[15:04] <Kilos> just the night surfer is late
[15:04] <Kilos> middle of sleep time
[15:05] <Kilos> hows it compare speed wise with vc
[15:55] <nlsthzn> o/
[15:56] <Kilos> hiya nlsthzn 
[15:59] <nlsthzn> how are you uncle Kilos ?
[15:59] <Kilos> good ty nlsthzn and you?
[16:00] <nlsthzn> always good uncle Kilos , thanks :) 
[16:01] <Kilos> you the other os expert hey nlsthzn ?
[16:01] <Kilos> hehe
[16:01] <Kilos> are you onna pc now?
[16:02] <nlsthzn> yup
[16:02] <nlsthzn> I am on a PC but no expert
[16:02] <nlsthzn> :p
[16:02] <Kilos> can you join ##kilos please
[16:03] <nlsthzn> sounds scary
[16:03] <Kilos> they fight with me when i talk the other os here
[16:03] <Kilos> hehe
[16:03] <nlsthzn> silly sausages
[16:06] <Kilos> lol
[16:12] <nlsthzn> guys, friend of mine in SA said a guy in his building said he should join http://www.ptawug.co.za/ ... any thoughts comments on this... are there many such "groups" in ZA now?
[16:14] <Kilos> ptawub is the biggest wug in za methinks
[16:14] <Kilos> got ubuntu users there too
[16:15] <Kilos> you dont get internet but some of them get packages and then you get it from them
[16:16] <inetpro> if they find out that you're using the internet through the wug you are in trouble
[16:16] <inetpro> they are not very friendly peeps when it comes to that
[16:17] <inetpro> but the restriction is actually the law
[16:17] <nlsthzn> what is it?  I don't know wug's?
[16:17] <inetpro> so they are just trying to stick to the letter of the law
[16:17] <inetpro> nlsthzn: wireless user group
[16:18] <nlsthzn> :) ok, but what does that mean 
[16:18] <inetpro> it's a big wireless network across a very wide area
[16:18] <Kilos> you can join them inetpro they are very friendly
[16:18] <nlsthzn> ah ok... like a WAN
[16:18] <nlsthzn> share some files and resources etc?
[16:18] <Kilos> i tried once before remember
[16:19] <Kilos> lol they even offered to sell me the necessary antenna
[16:19]  * inetpro wanted to join but the high sites where to far away from me home
[16:20] <Kilos> i think they are the biggest wug in the southern hemisphere
[16:20] <Kilos> they are on irc as well nlsthzn 
[16:30] <nlsthzn> ah ok thanks uncle Kilos 
[16:30] <Kilos> np
[16:30] <Kilos> hope you win
[16:31] <Kilos> i battled to find them then xchat went to them and dropped freenode
[16:31] <Kilos> grrr
[16:33] <nlsthzn> nah, seems the guy wants him to sign up to get free movies etc... seems like they are using it for pirating more than anything (well, in the specific building)
[16:34] <Kilos> ai
[16:34] <Kilos> when i told them i just started using ubuntu they offered to get packages for me
[16:35] <nlsthzn> always good and bad apples
[16:37] <Kilos> tell him to get them on irc and chat to the whole group
[16:37] <Kilos> http://irc.netsplit.de/channels/details.php?room=%23ptawug&net=WugNet
[16:38] <Kilos> not sure if that was the right link anymore
[16:39] <nlsthzn> no worries uncle Kilos ... he is very tech shy and trying to get him on IRC is more time than I have :p
[16:39] <Kilos> shame sorry nlsthzn 
[16:40] <nlsthzn> nah, that is his problem
[16:41] <Kilos> he on windows hey
[16:41] <Kilos> lol
[16:42] <Kilos> xchat works on windows too
[16:44] <inetpro> superfly: btw, I did my own little queries on me quassel db and noticed one thing
[16:44]  * inetpro talks to much
[16:44] <nlsthzn> lol
[16:44] <Kilos> lolol
[16:44] <inetpro> heh Kilos, there's one nick that talks even more than me
[16:45] <nlsthzn> ^_^
[16:45] <inetpro> and that nick is Kilos :-)
[16:45] <nlsthzn> thank you caption obvious :p
[16:45] <nlsthzn> *captain
[16:46] <charl_> lol
[16:46] <Kilos> hahaha
[16:46]  * inetpro shall have to try to talk less
[16:47] <nlsthzn> nah, when inetpro talks it is worth listening 
[16:47] <Kilos> jou beurt is jou beurt
[16:47] <charl_> there is a tool... i think it is called pisg or something
[16:47] <charl_> you can see who are the biggest talkers on irc
[16:47] <charl_> here's one of another channel i am in: http://gavinsharp.com/irc/whatwg.html
[16:48] <inetpro> charl_: that is neat!
[16:49] <Kilos> hi Wraz 
[16:49] <charl_> ah here's another one: http://stats.flexnet.org/ipv6/
[16:49] <charl_> apparently i'm not a big talker though... :)
[16:49] <inetpro> charl_: do they have monthly stats?
[16:49] <Kilos> haha
[16:50] <charl_> ah here's the pisg link: http://pisg.sourceforge.net/
[16:50] <charl_> inetpro: i don't really know, i never spent much time on it
[16:50] <charl_> inetpro: but afaik the tool is like 10+ years old
[16:51] <Kilos> good tools never age
[16:51] <charl_> ooh it's written in perl :S
[16:52] <inetpro> the most basic stat that I would see as being useful is the amount of active nicks per month
[16:52] <charl_> useful or embarrasing? :)
[16:52] <Kilos> wow thats about 10 on good days
[16:52] <Kilos> lotsa lurkers though
[16:52] <charl_> but yeah it could be interesting
[16:53] <inetpro> amount of nicks should never be embarrassing 
[16:55] <inetpro> but number of lines per nick could be very revealing
[16:55] <charl_> yes indeed
[16:55] <Kilos> haha
[16:55] <Kilos> i win
[16:55] <charl_> just keep your boss from seeing it ;)
[16:55] <charl_> or use a pseudonym
[16:55] <Kilos> my boss says i may chat lots
[16:56] <nlsthzn> :)
[16:56] <charl_> Kilos: i think that would be the exception rather than the rule ;)
[16:56] <Kilos> lol
[16:56] <inetpro> a lot of talking doesn't have to be negative 
[16:57] <inetpro> Kilos's boss likes it if he talks a lot
[16:57] <inetpro> the more the better
[16:57] <Kilos> haha
[16:57] <charl_> i find irc is a nice distraction in between tasks... getting your mind out of the one thing before you go into the next
[16:58] <charl_> while i'm busy working on something i disconnect from the screen running irssi
[16:58] <charl_> and then check back in later, so i don't see it as a negative thing either
[16:58] <Kilos> hehe
[16:58]  * inetpro would love to see facebook stats
[16:59] <charl_> have you heard/read about the research done on employees that use facebook?
[16:59] <charl_> on average, they are more productive at work apparently
[16:59] <charl_> of course, you also get people who get completely obsessed and that gives the opposite effect...
[16:59] <superfly> what was that, inetpro?
[17:02] <inetpro> superfly: I put the following query into a file query.sql and then ran: psql -f query.sql --tuples-only quassel | uniq -c | sort -nr | nl
[17:02] <inetpro> select to_char ( time, 'YYYY-MM' ) as month, substring ( sender.sender from '(^.*)!.*' ) as nick from backlog join sender on sender.senderid = backlog.senderid where type=1 and bufferid = 1 and time > '2012-09-01 00:00:00' and time < '2012-12-01 00:00:00' order by month, nick;
[17:03] <inetpro> obviously you will be able to improve a lot on that query
[17:04] <inetpro> oops.... that's the wrong query
[17:04] <inetpro> I played around a little
[17:04] <charl_> wait you got your irc logs in a database?!
[17:04] <inetpro> the following should not be part of it: 'to_char ( time, 'YYYY-MM' ) as month'
[17:05] <inetpro> charl_: yebo yes, with quasselcore
[17:05] <charl_> ah i see, interesting
[17:05] <superfly> inetpro: ah, right, OK. I was trying to do my sorting and grouping in SQL, where you did it using "external" tools
[17:06] <charl_> you can do some more interesting stuff with that if you really want... like get out all the posted links in the last week or do all kinds of analytics
[17:06] <inetpro> superfly: but I was not done with it yet
[17:07] <charl_> if you already have it all in a database it should be simple
[17:07] <inetpro> still needs a bit of time and effort
[17:07] <charl_> actually there should be a tool that could generate some stats straight from the database
[17:09] <inetpro> we should actually try get ibid to build stats 
[17:10] <inetpro> what makes it tough is the fact that one user can have so many multiple nicks over time
[17:10] <charl_> yup like me, i just let irssi pick it for me :)
[17:10] <superfly> inetpro: yeah, that was my issue as well
[17:10] <charl_> but i use multiple networks and most of those don't have a nickserv
[17:11] <charl_> funny i was searching for quassel stats generators and found this: https://github.com/rikai/Lavatory
[17:11] <charl_> nice name for a project :)
[17:12] <inetpro> eish!
[17:12]  * inetpro has some more work to do
[17:12] <inetpro> wbbl
[17:12] <charl_> ciao
[18:16] <kodez> greetings
[18:16] <Kilos> hi kodez 
[18:17] <kodez> uncle Kilos, how are you?
[18:17] <Kilos> ok ty and you kodez ?
[18:18] <kodez> i am better  than yesterday, thanks for asking
[18:19] <Kilos> lol you always better than yesterday
[18:19] <Kilos> where does it end
[18:19] <Kilos> hehe
[18:19] <kodez> yes indeed. i keep on improving everyay
[18:20] <Kilos> good
[18:41] <inetpro> hmm....
[18:41] <inetpro> he's still minus minus
[18:41] <Kilos> hehe hi smile-- 
[18:42] <Kilos> hes feeling old tonight
[18:42] <smile--> :p
[18:42] <smile--> exams :(
[18:42] <Kilos> life is an exam laddy
[18:42] <Kilos> passing them all is the trick
[18:46] <smile--> ;)
[18:48]  * mazal peeks in
[19:12] <charl_> hi mazal, Kilos, smile-- 
[19:12] <Kilos> hi charl_ 
[19:12] <charl_> hahahaha what's up with the -- smile--
[19:12] <Kilos> hji mazal 
[19:13] <Kilos> sjoe
[19:13] <Kilos> naand
[19:13] <charl_> hji - that sounds like hi in punjabi
[19:13] <Kilos> lol
[19:14] <smile--> charl_: I hate those exams :
[19:15] <smile--> :o
[19:20] <charl_> i know the feeling
[19:20] <charl_> i had to do itilv3 a few months ago
[19:20] <charl_> i didn't mind attending the course but don't ask me to write exams
[19:20] <charl_> in the end i passed with a good margin of safety but i still don't like it
[19:21] <charl_> ask me to do stuff, not write exams about doing stuff :)
[19:32] <smile--> byee :p
[19:32] <Kilos> toods smile-- 
[19:33] <smile--> good night oom kilos :)
[19:33] <Kilos> sleep tight lad
[19:33] <Kilos> grrr
[19:33] <inetpro> lekker slaap smi
[19:33] <Kilos> lol
[19:34] <inetpro> ai
[19:43] <Kilos> hi Trixar_za 
[19:43] <Kilos> night all sleep tight
[19:54] <mazal> Sleep well everyone