[04:28] morning superfly and others [04:28] looks like quassel server survived [04:50] morning Kilos [04:50] hi magespawn [04:51] bbl showertime [05:16] morning Kilos [05:16] you're up far too early [05:17] hi magespawn [05:18] had to check if your quassel was still alive superfly [05:19] hehe [05:21] Kilos: it went down *once* and now you're worried? [05:22] lol yeah well you looked for stats again after i went to bed [05:22] so just checking [05:27] donker werk is konkel werk [05:41] hi aquarat [05:43] hey superfly [05:48] hehe i upset him this morning [05:50] sorry superfly was teasing actually [05:51] oh he gone [05:56] hi psydroid [05:56] and Squirm [05:56] hi Kilos [05:57] hi magespawn [05:57] hi superfly [05:57] hi aquarat [06:16] Morning everyone [06:16] hi mazal [06:43] hey psydroid [06:43] o/ mazal [06:45] * magespawn goes to kills some pixels in open arena [06:46] hehe [07:00] * mazal was beddegoed :P [07:13] * magespawn thinks hes is having more fun than mazal [07:14] You defnitely are !! :) [07:16] magespawn, is open arena for online only ? Or does it have single player offline as well ? [07:37] hi Ludo [07:38] its a fat download [07:38] 385 meg or something [07:38] magespawn, tell man [07:38] is it a lekker game [07:41] Kilos if you enjoy fps games yes [07:41] whats fps [07:41] first person shooter [07:41] oh like arcade games [07:42] you shoot the aliens [07:45] yes a little but from the first person point of view [07:47] this you can play online versus other ppl but does use data [07:57] and offline too? [07:57] i dont wanna shoot peeps [07:58] 4 lb hammer is more satisfying [07:58] and arm gets excersie too [07:58] sjoe [07:58] exercise [08:09] yes you can play off line [08:11] *sigh* Have to go work [08:11] Later all [08:14] ty magespawn will check night surfer data and maybe get it [08:42] Kilos it is a lot of fun if you enjoy blowing things up [08:43] hehehe [09:24] hi Vince-0 [09:24] Hi Kilos [09:25] Wat gaan aan [09:25] magespawn, have you played red alert [09:25] still en rustig Vince-0 [09:25] no not yet [09:25] i have heard about it though [09:25] yoh I got the original soviet and allied discs from their site [09:25] 640x480 for the win [09:26] the first one was great hadda chick called Tanya in that loved blowing things up [09:26] lol ya, we used to use a serial cable between two pcs for that [09:26] lol [09:27] and t-piece and coax after that [09:32] hehe [09:57] now you guys are really showing your age [09:58] hehe is a great game [09:58] only prob is getting the cds [09:58] no the serial cable and the coax [09:59] AOE4 works internetwise [09:59] oh [10:01] did a clear ou at the fish's school found a whole load of coax with the connectors on [10:02] lol [10:03] coax still works on idiot boxes [10:03] starcraft brood wars too [10:04] still have my discs for that [10:06] until recently i had the original warcraft [10:10] aw, quality [10:10] the oldest game I still have in a box is carmageddon [10:12] i remember that. now that is stress relief [10:14] stainless is making a new one for release early next year [10:14] it started as a Kickstarter project - they gave me the originals for sponsering [10:14] also making an Android and iOS version [10:46] good morning [10:49] haai [10:53] cool Vince-0 [10:54] i am off home cheers all [10:54] toods magespawn [11:02] ciao magespawn [11:02] hi Vince-0 [11:04] checkin out Google Communities on G+ [11:05] hi charl_ [11:22] hi Zarw [11:22] wb [13:03] hrm [13:03] I had an epiphany :P doing my db processing for my app on the frontend to generate the stats was the height of stupidity [13:04] rather write another backend application that does the stats generation on a crontab [13:08] sounds like a good idea [13:08] generating stats can take time and make your application look slow [13:08] hi Kilos [13:09] Symmetria: you can even pre-generate the html and save it as a static file, ultimate speed ;) [13:11] heh charl it was more a case of, there is simply 2 much data [13:11] and the processing of it to generate the stats [13:11] was far 2 complex for php and web code to do efficiently [13:17] i have that same issue with my one website [13:17] but i need live data [13:17] currently i am just using very optimized queries [13:41] wtf, dont you hate it when you code something and get wierd compilation errors and you sit there staring at it going "wtf?!" [13:41] generate_stats.c:(.text+0xe): undefined reference to `PQconnectdb' [13:41] generate_stats.c:(.text+0x1e): undefined reference to `PQstatus' [13:41] fucking bullshit, the libs are included [13:43] heh [13:43] oh [13:43] gcc wants -l arguments as last arguments [15:01] ok where are the 8ta fundies? [15:01] hmm [15:01] wassup [15:01] * inetpro got 8ta sim converted to data [15:01] now I should effectively be able to use the specials [15:01] yip [15:01] *180# [15:02] so I loaded the 2+1 GB bundle [15:02] i hope [15:02] through the web interface [15:02] oh good [15:02] but I still had like 445MB left on me prepaid [15:02] it will use that first [15:02] and when I test now I can clearly see it still using that [15:02] lol [15:03] Kilos: ok, that is good to know [15:03] yeah they quite efficient inetpro [15:03] so when that is finished it should start using the 2+1? [15:03] correct [15:04] very nice! [15:04] * inetpro be back now [15:04] just the night surfer is late [15:04] middle of sleep time [15:05] hows it compare speed wise with vc [15:55] o/ [15:56] hiya nlsthzn [15:59] how are you uncle Kilos ? [15:59] good ty nlsthzn and you? [16:00] always good uncle Kilos , thanks :) [16:01] you the other os expert hey nlsthzn ? [16:01] hehe [16:01] are you onna pc now? [16:02] yup [16:02] I am on a PC but no expert [16:02] :p [16:02] can you join ##kilos please [16:03] sounds scary [16:03] they fight with me when i talk the other os here [16:03] hehe [16:03] silly sausages [16:06] lol [16:12] guys, friend of mine in SA said a guy in his building said he should join http://www.ptawug.co.za/ ... any thoughts comments on this... are there many such "groups" in ZA now? [16:14] ptawub is the biggest wug in za methinks [16:14] got ubuntu users there too [16:15] you dont get internet but some of them get packages and then you get it from them [16:16] if they find out that you're using the internet through the wug you are in trouble [16:16] they are not very friendly peeps when it comes to that [16:17] but the restriction is actually the law [16:17] what is it? I don't know wug's? [16:17] so they are just trying to stick to the letter of the law [16:17] nlsthzn: wireless user group [16:18] :) ok, but what does that mean [16:18] it's a big wireless network across a very wide area [16:18] you can join them inetpro they are very friendly [16:18] ah ok... like a WAN [16:18] share some files and resources etc? [16:18] i tried once before remember [16:19] lol they even offered to sell me the necessary antenna [16:19] * inetpro wanted to join but the high sites where to far away from me home [16:20] i think they are the biggest wug in the southern hemisphere [16:20] they are on irc as well nlsthzn [16:30] ah ok thanks uncle Kilos [16:30] np [16:30] hope you win [16:31] i battled to find them then xchat went to them and dropped freenode [16:31] grrr [16:33] nah, seems the guy wants him to sign up to get free movies etc... seems like they are using it for pirating more than anything (well, in the specific building) [16:34] ai [16:34] when i told them i just started using ubuntu they offered to get packages for me [16:35] always good and bad apples [16:37] tell him to get them on irc and chat to the whole group [16:37] http://irc.netsplit.de/channels/details.php?room=%23ptawug&net=WugNet [16:38] not sure if that was the right link anymore [16:39] no worries uncle Kilos ... he is very tech shy and trying to get him on IRC is more time than I have :p [16:39] shame sorry nlsthzn [16:40] nah, that is his problem [16:41] he on windows hey [16:41] lol [16:42] xchat works on windows too [16:44] superfly: btw, I did my own little queries on me quassel db and noticed one thing [16:44] * inetpro talks to much [16:44] lol [16:44] lolol [16:44] heh Kilos, there's one nick that talks even more than me [16:45] ^_^ [16:45] and that nick is Kilos :-) [16:45] thank you caption obvious :p [16:45] *captain [16:46] lol [16:46] hahaha [16:46] * inetpro shall have to try to talk less [16:47] nah, when inetpro talks it is worth listening [16:47] jou beurt is jou beurt [16:47] there is a tool... i think it is called pisg or something [16:47] you can see who are the biggest talkers on irc [16:47] here's one of another channel i am in: http://gavinsharp.com/irc/whatwg.html [16:48] charl_: that is neat! === Zarw is now known as Wraz [16:49] hi Wraz [16:49] ah here's another one: http://stats.flexnet.org/ipv6/ [16:49] apparently i'm not a big talker though... :) [16:49] charl_: do they have monthly stats? [16:49] haha [16:50] ah here's the pisg link: http://pisg.sourceforge.net/ [16:50] inetpro: i don't really know, i never spent much time on it [16:50] inetpro: but afaik the tool is like 10+ years old [16:51] good tools never age [16:51] ooh it's written in perl :S [16:52] the most basic stat that I would see as being useful is the amount of active nicks per month [16:52] useful or embarrasing? :) [16:52] wow thats about 10 on good days [16:52] lotsa lurkers though [16:52] but yeah it could be interesting [16:53] amount of nicks should never be embarrassing [16:55] but number of lines per nick could be very revealing [16:55] yes indeed [16:55] haha [16:55] i win [16:55] just keep your boss from seeing it ;) [16:55] or use a pseudonym [16:55] my boss says i may chat lots [16:56] :) [16:56] Kilos: i think that would be the exception rather than the rule ;) [16:56] lol [16:56] a lot of talking doesn't have to be negative [16:57] Kilos's boss likes it if he talks a lot [16:57] the more the better [16:57] haha [16:57] i find irc is a nice distraction in between tasks... getting your mind out of the one thing before you go into the next [16:58] while i'm busy working on something i disconnect from the screen running irssi [16:58] and then check back in later, so i don't see it as a negative thing either [16:58] hehe [16:58] * inetpro would love to see facebook stats [16:59] have you heard/read about the research done on employees that use facebook? [16:59] on average, they are more productive at work apparently [16:59] of course, you also get people who get completely obsessed and that gives the opposite effect... [16:59] what was that, inetpro? [17:02] superfly: I put the following query into a file query.sql and then ran: psql -f query.sql --tuples-only quassel | uniq -c | sort -nr | nl [17:02] select to_char ( time, 'YYYY-MM' ) as month, substring ( sender.sender from '(^.*)!.*' ) as nick from backlog join sender on sender.senderid = backlog.senderid where type=1 and bufferid = 1 and time > '2012-09-01 00:00:00' and time < '2012-12-01 00:00:00' order by month, nick; [17:03] obviously you will be able to improve a lot on that query [17:04] oops.... that's the wrong query [17:04] I played around a little [17:04] wait you got your irc logs in a database?! [17:04] the following should not be part of it: 'to_char ( time, 'YYYY-MM' ) as month' [17:05] charl_: yebo yes, with quasselcore [17:05] ah i see, interesting [17:05] inetpro: ah, right, OK. I was trying to do my sorting and grouping in SQL, where you did it using "external" tools [17:06] you can do some more interesting stuff with that if you really want... like get out all the posted links in the last week or do all kinds of analytics [17:06] superfly: but I was not done with it yet [17:07] if you already have it all in a database it should be simple [17:07] still needs a bit of time and effort [17:07] actually there should be a tool that could generate some stats straight from the database [17:09] we should actually try get ibid to build stats [17:10] what makes it tough is the fact that one user can have so many multiple nicks over time [17:10] yup like me, i just let irssi pick it for me :) [17:10] inetpro: yeah, that was my issue as well [17:10] but i use multiple networks and most of those don't have a nickserv [17:11] funny i was searching for quassel stats generators and found this: https://github.com/rikai/Lavatory [17:11] nice name for a project :) [17:12] eish! [17:12] * inetpro has some more work to do [17:12] wbbl [17:12] ciao [18:16] greetings [18:16] hi kodez [18:17] uncle Kilos, how are you? [18:17] ok ty and you kodez ? [18:18] i am better than yesterday, thanks for asking [18:19] lol you always better than yesterday [18:19] where does it end [18:19] hehe [18:19] yes indeed. i keep on improving everyay [18:20] good [18:41] hmm.... [18:41] he's still minus minus [18:41] hehe hi smile-- [18:42] hes feeling old tonight [18:42] :p [18:42] exams :( [18:42] life is an exam laddy [18:42] passing them all is the trick [18:46] ;) [18:48] * mazal peeks in [19:12] hi mazal, Kilos, smile-- [19:12] hi charl_ [19:12] hahahaha what's up with the -- smile-- [19:12] hji mazal [19:13] sjoe [19:13] naand [19:13] hji - that sounds like hi in punjabi [19:13] lol [19:14] charl_: I hate those exams : [19:15] :o [19:20] i know the feeling [19:20] i had to do itilv3 a few months ago [19:20] i didn't mind attending the course but don't ask me to write exams [19:20] in the end i passed with a good margin of safety but i still don't like it [19:21] ask me to do stuff, not write exams about doing stuff :) [19:32] byee :p [19:32] toods smile-- [19:33] good night oom kilos :) [19:33] sleep tight lad [19:33] grrr [19:33] lekker slaap smi [19:33] lol [19:34] ai === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za [19:43] hi Trixar_za [19:43] night all sleep tight [19:54] Sleep well everyone